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55KRC Thursday Show - Congressman Davidson, Curt Hartman, Keegan Corcoran · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Five o five fifty five. Care see the talk station.
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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, will.
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Speaker 2: Vacation no ideals?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much me too. Thank you Tally for someone
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Speaker 1: up the morning. It is the five o'clock hour, so
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Speaker 1: I rarely know what the hell I'm talking about at
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Speaker 1: the five o'clock hour. Happy Friday, Brian Thomas right here,
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Speaker 1: glad to be, Glad to see Jude Tracker and where
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Speaker 1: he belongs. Without just Tracker, there ain't no show. Uh,
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Speaker 1: And they're in there, I can know. Yesterday it was
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Speaker 1: so much fun, in spite of the fact that the
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Speaker 1: lot of the phone calls were driven by our see
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Speaker 1: the universal disappointment with the outcome of the election. Ah,
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Speaker 1: I love talking to people. It was a great opportunity
1:01
Speaker 1: to vent and hear what other people thought about the
1:03
Speaker 1: outcome and the certain election. So today's no really different
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Speaker 1: than yesterday, but it was a welcome relief to get
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Speaker 1: some assistance from the listening audience when I was well
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Speaker 1: pretty much perplexed over the outcome. Yeah, I was, and
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Speaker 1: I think I'm overwhelmingly perplexed by people's well lack of
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Speaker 1: motivation to get up and vote. I think that was
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Speaker 1: the biggest mystery swirling around. It wasn't there something really
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Speaker 1: important that you wanted to get up and vote for yesterday?
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Speaker 1: Of course, my mind is gravitating towards this city as
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Speaker 1: it has been, but so much it was like it's
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Speaker 1: like a presidential election year for the city of Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: You get one out of four people showing up, that's
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Speaker 1: just a mystery to me. And no, it doesn't shock
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Speaker 1: me either the outcome of the election, given that the
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Speaker 1: people who shut up motivated and a city of seemingly
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent Democrats, if only one out of four
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Speaker 1: shows up, you're going to get the outcome that you
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Speaker 1: saw yesterday. So there you have. It didn't have to
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Speaker 1: be that way, I don't believe. But we're left with
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Speaker 1: reality and we're left only with speculation over what might
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Speaker 1: have been. So moving forward, we're going to have to
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Speaker 1: keep a popcorn out and just see how things are handled.
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Speaker 1: And you know, there was somebody I guess was on
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Speaker 1: Fox News I mentioned was shifting, gravitating and shifting over
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Speaker 1: to New York City with this mom Donnie guy. He's
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Speaker 1: got a lot of challenges putting through his agenda, his
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Speaker 1: just gazillion dollar agenda, and the Wall Street Journal to
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Speaker 1: breakdown of it, how much each of his line items
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Speaker 1: like free buses and rent freezing, how much it's going
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Speaker 1: to cost the city, and how he's planning on financing it,
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Speaker 1: most of which is going to require the work from
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Speaker 1: Albany and the concessions from the governor and the Democrats
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Speaker 1: in Albany, which is not guaranteed. So his tax proposals
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Speaker 1: are contingent upon a statewide impact. But what do you
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Speaker 1: think is going to happen? Here's the question that was
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Speaker 1: posed the first incident involving police interaction with let's say
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Speaker 1: anybody like George Floyd. So a George flo scenario. So
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Speaker 1: you have a really soft on crime prosecutor. You've got
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Speaker 1: a really anti police mom Donnie guy who supports this
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Speaker 1: sort of violence in the street in the aftermath and
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Speaker 1: the protests against the evil, inherently racist police department. So
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Speaker 1: they're on the same side of the ledger when it
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Speaker 1: comes to who's they support. Do they support the protesters
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Speaker 1: in the street protesting against the evil police force or
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Speaker 1: are they gonna are they gonna support law and order?
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Speaker 1: So there's a huge problem on their hands. So you
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Speaker 1: got this, this this George Floyd esque kind of event
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Speaker 1: that happens. City starts coming on glue, people riding in
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Speaker 1: the streets or whatever. What is the mayor of the
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Speaker 1: City of New York do. This is not a problem
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Speaker 1: that I have, but it's one that I think probably
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Speaker 1: will happen. And whether it's a George Floyd type thing
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Speaker 1: or maybe some sort of Antifa protest or I don't know,
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Speaker 1: an ice raid, perhaps the city could come up glue.
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Speaker 1: Then mont Dommy's in the unenviable position of having to
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Speaker 1: realize that crime and rampant and violence in the streets
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Speaker 1: and property destruction is all happening on his watch. He's
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Speaker 1: not just sitting out from elsewhere watching it happen in
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Speaker 1: some other city, talking about how awesome it is that
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Speaker 1: people are rising up against the oppression. This rising up
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Speaker 1: against the oppression is going to be happening on his
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Speaker 1: watch in his own city, so a complicated narrative it
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Speaker 1: will create for him. And I suppose it's inevitable that
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Speaker 1: will happen, So you can wait for that one anyway.
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Speaker 1: But coming up to thinking, I have Cassey Morning Show.
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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson seven oh five latest on the shutdown.
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Speaker 1: Will the GOP Senate Flinch, longest shutdown in American history?
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Speaker 1: How's that working out for you? And I met my
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Speaker 1: first impacted worker yesterday and shout out to everbody he
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Speaker 1: minute to listener lunch and most litably the new people
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Speaker 1: that I met for the first time. There's quite a
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Speaker 1: few of them there. And perhaps to the guy drove
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Speaker 1: all the way down from Columbus to come to listener lunch,
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Speaker 1: that was that was a true honor. So we had.
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Speaker 1: We had a really nice time at listener lunch yesterday,
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Speaker 1: So High Green Brewery, salute to you and the good
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Speaker 1: food we had. Will the GOP Senate Flinch, there's a
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Speaker 1: good question. But that guy I met yesterday also happened
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Speaker 1: to have lived in Oak Park, Illinois. He what has
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Speaker 1: been laid off? He said, have you met anybody that's
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Speaker 1: been impacted by the shutdown? Here's the first one. I said, No,
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Speaker 1: you're the first person. Someone had asked me that the
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Speaker 1: other day. Matter of fact, CNN was going to have
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Speaker 1: me on one point and that was one of the questions.
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Speaker 1: They asked me, what are all your listeners talking about?
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Speaker 1: I said, A lot of the topic of conversations been
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Speaker 1: dominated by the shutdown. Has anybody been impacted in your
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Speaker 1: listening audience, is the answer, at least until yesterday was no.
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Speaker 1: I had not met someone who has been impacted. So
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Speaker 1: I've crossed that bridge. Empower you. Kurt Hartman is going
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Speaker 1: to return to the program at eight oh five, is
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Speaker 1: going to empower you. Someon are talking about Sunshine Laws.
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Speaker 1: That'll be eight oh five this morning. Tonight at seven pm.
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Speaker 1: Empower Youamerica dot Org for all the information and our
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Speaker 1: wine for and Keegan Corcoran almost Master Saumier. He'll be
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Speaker 1: in studio Lost Election Wine Choices, the perfect pairing for
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Speaker 1: nice one Joe. Was that your idea? Or did he
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Speaker 1: reach out to you for lost Election mind choices? That
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Speaker 1: was you? Yes, high comedy. I expect that from Strecker.
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Speaker 1: See told you. Try to give Joe Strecker props always
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Speaker 1: when props are due, and call up Joe if you
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Speaker 1: want to do a podcast. He's he does podcasts on
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Speaker 1: the side five one three seven, eight hundred and eight
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Speaker 1: two three Taco with pound five fifty on at and
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Speaker 1: T phone, Sadly and again Prayers. It's eight thirty with
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Speaker 1: Kegan Corcoran. Uh and that means no. iHeart media aviation
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Speaker 1: expert Jay Ratliffe, and I've been tting everybody know he has
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Speaker 1: told the world, so I don't feel like I'm revealing
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Speaker 1: anything Medically, Bell's palsy. If you look it up, this
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Speaker 1: is kind of a weird phenomenon. It really truly looks
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Speaker 1: like and acts like a stroke. It's not and you
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Speaker 1: can come out the other side. It takes a little time.
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Speaker 3: It's just.
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Speaker 1: We had a front Bob, my wife and I, Paul,
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Speaker 1: and I have a friend that got Bell's palsy after
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Speaker 1: giving birth, and I think it was about six months
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Speaker 1: before she regained that function full functionality. It's a moving
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Speaker 1: target though, but because of that, we don't get iHeartMedia
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Speaker 1: aviation expert Jay Ratliff, which is a shame and sad.
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Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoy talking with him. I think his topics
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Speaker 1: are quite fun. And of course, you know what the
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Speaker 1: government shut down. Air traffic is struggling having a bit
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Speaker 1: of a problem. So FAA said yesterday it's ordering airline
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Speaker 1: traffic to be reduced by ten percent at forty airports
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Speaker 1: because all the air traffic controllers aren't getting paid and
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Speaker 1: a lot of them aren't showing up and some of
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Speaker 1: them are going out and getting a second job. So
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Speaker 1: Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said, starting tomorrow, this ten percent
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Speaker 1: reduction at forty airports will help keep you, the air
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Speaker 1: travelers safe. And I don't know how comfortable you are
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Speaker 1: with flying anyway, but recognizing that we're down on air
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Speaker 1: traffic controllers doesn't give me a comfortable feeling. So exacerbating
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Speaker 1: staffing issues, of course, has and it's caused that multiple delays.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you heard about that, Duffy said. This is
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Speaker 1: about where's the pressure and how do we alleviate the pressure. So,
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Speaker 1: according to the Journal, travel businesses are warning about the
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Speaker 1: impact on consumers and companies. The letters, signed by nearly
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Speaker 1: five hundred companies as well as other groups, said, hey, Congress,
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Speaker 1: pass the spending bill. Expecting some chaos. Of course, you
8:47
Speaker 1: got the impending holiday season, Thanksgiving right around the corner,
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Speaker 1: of course, Christmas dating the obvious. I guess I'd like
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Speaker 1: to think there's no way in hell the government shutdown
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Speaker 1: will last through Thanksgiving or into Christmas. I may be wrong,
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Speaker 1: and I suppose I'm interested in knowing. If you think
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Speaker 1: the Republicans are going to flinch on this one, will
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Speaker 1: they capitulate and give into the democrats demands to extend Obamacare,
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Speaker 1: and these fake subsidies, the subsidies that hide the reality
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Speaker 1: the impact on healthcare is.
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Speaker 4: It.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the economics of this seem so clear to
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Speaker 1: me that I struggle to appreciate how anyone can believe
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Speaker 1: that these subsidies somehow make the cost of healthcare go down. No,
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Speaker 1: it just covers the cost to you. If you're not
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Speaker 1: paying a premium and you're getting healthcare, it looks free, Oh,
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Speaker 1: joy of joys. But does anybody believe it's really free.
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Speaker 1: That's the point of the subsidies. You are paying for them,
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Speaker 1: even though you really don't realize that. That is, if
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Speaker 1: you're paying it to the federal income tax, and ultimately
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Speaker 1: your children and grandchildren, great great grandchildren generations in front
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Speaker 1: of you are going to be paying the bill for
10:02
Speaker 1: this because our deficit keeps going up. And who's got
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Speaker 1: to pay the debt service on that?
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Speaker 4: Right?
10:05
Speaker 1: American tag fare number one issue. You've got to pay
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Speaker 1: the interest on the debt service or the country falls
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Speaker 1: apart in collapse because nobody else wilone this money anymore.
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Speaker 1: If we're a bad risk, this thing's spiraling down in itself.
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Speaker 1: But you know, just because you get a subsidy doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean you're getting free healthcare. Ah and the Democrats realize
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Speaker 1: that Obamacare is a is a fundamentally irretrievably broken thing,
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Speaker 1: and absent masking the increasing cost of running Obamacare and
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Speaker 1: paying for all these claims, there's a little left with
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Speaker 1: the cold, stark reality that the system they build is
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Speaker 1: irreparably damaged and broken. When the Supreme Court ruled in
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Speaker 1: finding that Obamacare was in fact constitutional, another case that
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Speaker 1: just has always blown my mind. But one gift they
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Speaker 1: gave us is that they said specifically that the government
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Speaker 1: can't force you to buy something. It's a commerce caused decision.
11:16
Speaker 1: It's that Pesky Wicker versus Philmore. If you're growing wheat
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Speaker 1: of any amount, you impact the amount of wheat out
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Speaker 1: in the world, and that means the government can regulate
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Speaker 1: you even though you're not engaging actually in interstate commerce.
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Speaker 1: They tried to leverage that argument into they can force
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Speaker 1: you because you consume healthcare and that has an impact
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Speaker 1: on society and the budget and the economy at large,
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Speaker 1: they can force you to buy this product. No, said
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. It can't be used as a vehicle
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Speaker 1: to mandate that you engage in action. It can only
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Speaker 1: be a vehicle to regulate or prevent you from engaging
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Speaker 1: in action. So as soon as that element was pulled
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Speaker 1: and the court ruled it unconstitutional, that was the real
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Speaker 1: true financial end of Obamacare, And now they're trying to
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Speaker 1: make up for that by well covering up the actual
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Speaker 1: cost of it. I keep going back to my conversations
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Speaker 1: with John Roman from Cover Sinsey. You know, you got
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Speaker 1: ten thousand plus dollars out of pocket responsibility before Obamacare
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Speaker 1: even kicks in. Is that really helpful for the downtrodden.
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Speaker 1: It's certainly not helpful for the family of four that
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Speaker 1: end up ends up having almost twenty two thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: out of pocket responsibility before the insurance kicks in. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: I know it's a bit rambling, but again, five o'clock hour,
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Speaker 1: and if you got something you want to talk about,
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Speaker 1: you can give me a call. It's five seventeen, five
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Speaker 1: eighteen right now, stick around, right back, these eventful times
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Speaker 1: five on three, seven four nine fifty, five hundred, eight
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two to three. Talk about five fifty
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Speaker 1: on eight E T phones over the break Striker to say,
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Speaker 1: did you see the neighborhood vote for mayor? And it
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Speaker 1: was on the enquired and I hadn't seen it. Strucker
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Speaker 1: suggests that well, okay, given the vote and the percentage
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Speaker 1: of who voted for AFTAB par Ball versus the option,
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman Joe suggested building a crew tower type structure
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Speaker 1: right there at Hyde Park Square. Because Hyde Park the
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Speaker 1: recipients of the proposal from the well connected developer that
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Speaker 1: got everyone outraged and incensed, so much so that they
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Speaker 1: had a ballot initiative on the ballot to reject the
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Speaker 1: mayor's proposal for their neighborhood. A lot of people expressing
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Speaker 1: outrage over that. Why didn't he listen to us, the
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Speaker 1: residents of Hyde Park when considering this well connected developer's proposal.
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Speaker 1: Damn it he got eight Hyde Park gave him seventy
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Speaker 1: percent of the vote AFTAB par Ball hyde Park. What
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Speaker 1: about bond Hill recipients of the same treatment in a
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Speaker 1: representative body of government, They were ignored, Their wills and
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Speaker 1: wishes were ignored in favor of connected communities. Bond Hill
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Speaker 1: eighty five percent to one hundred percent, AFTAB Parvolles gonna
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Speaker 1: make you want to scratch your head. What happened to
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Speaker 1: the outrage? I keep going back to only twenty five
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Speaker 1: percent of your show. People shut up. I guess Hyde
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Speaker 1: park felt. Well, we're done. We don't have to worry
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Speaker 1: about this development project anymore. We got our way because
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Speaker 1: once the ballot initiated was on, AFTAB pulled the plug
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Speaker 1: on the whole proposal, so we win and therefore don't
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Speaker 1: need to show up at the polls. Bond Hill's a
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Speaker 1: head scratcher, though, isn't it. You used to see the map? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the only place Corey won several places of the sailor
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Speaker 1: Parker overside, uh and California went AFTAB provall by majority.
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Speaker 1: Oh well, let's see what Pat's got this morning. Pat,
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Speaker 1: thanks for calling. Welcome to the Morning show.
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Speaker 5: Oh Brian, I'm telling you I couldn't call you yesterday because,
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Speaker 5: like you, I was just devastated. But I'm hoping Christopher
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Speaker 5: and that's and Josh and I just hope we get good.
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Speaker 5: I pray for it, but I figure God has a
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Speaker 5: reason why this happened. But anyway, and take care and
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Speaker 5: pray for the children because I think it back in
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Speaker 5: Germany when they started their nastiness, they started with the children.
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Speaker 5: And our children are not being taught reading, writing, and arithmetic.
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Speaker 5: They're being taught about trands. But anyway, sweetheart, you just
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Speaker 5: have a nice day, and I keep listening every day.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Bless you.
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Speaker 1: Keep the prayers going there, pat and keep your chin up,
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Speaker 1: and maybe, just maybe the way things work out for
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Speaker 1: the better. God has a plan lest suggest, and this
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Speaker 1: is his plan. Let them fall on their own decisions.
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Speaker 1: Let the whole system collapse on the weight of their
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Speaker 1: own decisions. I mean, how do you think this whole
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Speaker 1: Mondami thing is going to work out in New York?
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Speaker 1: I mean, the cost of all these individual programs at
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Speaker 1: up to tens and twenty billions and billions of dollars.
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Speaker 1: It's more money than the city has, and they're already
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Speaker 1: in a hole. How could that possibly work out? I
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Speaker 1: mean a lot of people think that the rich are
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Speaker 1: going to completely move out of New York and that
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Speaker 1: the whole system will collapse on under the weight of itself.
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Speaker 1: That may be, and then we can all learn a
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Speaker 1: lesson from it. Sadly, no one seems to be paying
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Speaker 1: the attention to the mistakes of the past. Talk about
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Speaker 1: this all the time. What happened to Venezuela when it
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Speaker 1: went full on socialism? The economy collapsed. Weimar Republic, speaking
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Speaker 1: of those nastiness. When Germany and the Brownshirts broke out,
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Speaker 1: they were in a terrible economic calamity. Why because they
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Speaker 1: kept running the printing press, runaway inflation, devastation after World
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Speaker 1: War One and the fact that they lost World War
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Speaker 1: one two didn't help maul Adel economically, so huge problems.
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Speaker 1: And when you have crazy circumstances like that, you end
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Speaker 1: up with Nazis run the place. See that's the turn
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Speaker 1: for the worst that we all have to anticipate. Gee,
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Speaker 1: will we learn that socialist policies collapse and that the
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Speaker 1: economy of the economics of it don't work?
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Speaker 5: Uh?
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Speaker 1: Well, if you run the printing pest and the environment
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Speaker 1: republic long enough and the inflation goes crazy and you
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Speaker 1: engage in warfare, that well didn't work out real well
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Speaker 1: for you. Calamity might have resulted. It could have resulted
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Speaker 1: in a smarter, stronger form of government coming out the
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Speaker 1: other side. But no, we need to blame someone. So
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Speaker 1: let's blame the Jews. And let's put the evil jew
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Speaker 1: haters in office, and let's see how things work out
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Speaker 1: under the tenets of the Nationally National Socialist Party. Don't
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Speaker 1: think we could have learned a lesson from that one
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Speaker 1: that we might be studying right now, or any of
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Speaker 1: the other collapses of socialism that have happened around this world.
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Speaker 1: So while I want to be optimistic that we'll learn
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Speaker 1: from what I perceive to be the inevitable failure of
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Speaker 1: these policies, it's certainly a distinct possibility that things could
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Speaker 1: go way off the rails worse. Oh Ded, Love you
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Speaker 1: AT and T phones. For those who said Judge at
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Speaker 1: a Polatono had it wrong yesterday doesn't appear so based
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Speaker 1: upon the Supreme Court arguments regarding Trump's tariffs. Tariffs are
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Speaker 1: not looking like they are going to remain in place,
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Speaker 1: so major questions. Doctran discussed the idea of taxation being
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Speaker 1: the exclusive purview of Congress. Pesky little fact there in
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Speaker 1: our constitution. So that was the way judgment pods Judge
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Speaker 1: of Polton are called it yesterday, much of the chagrin
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Speaker 1: of a few callers are called in. I tended to
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Speaker 1: agree with them in spite of the fact that I
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Speaker 1: think the tariffs are actually bearing some decent fruit and
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Speaker 1: the other component of this that people aren't paying attention to,
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Speaker 1: and affordability was a massive issue in the vote. Yet
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Speaker 1: tuesday we'd huge issue. If you want to don't believe me,
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Speaker 1: listen to all the other political pundents, observers, everyone who
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Speaker 1: did exit polls affordability, affordability, affordability. So so yeah, they
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Speaker 1: do impact affordability because necessarily the price of something's going
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Speaker 1: to go up if you're putting a big tariff on it. Fine,
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Speaker 1: but he's bringing in billions and billions and billions of
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Speaker 1: tariff revenue. The one thing I observe that is I
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Speaker 1: believe to be a positive thing with the increase in
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Speaker 1: prices is that it spreads the idea of government cost
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Speaker 1: to literally everyone who buys anything. It's like a national
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Speaker 1: sales tax. You're upset that you know half of the
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Speaker 1: country doesn't pay into the federal taxation system because of
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Speaker 1: the way the tax code is structured. Well, welcome to
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Speaker 1: an income tax based on consumption. That's effectively what it is,
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Speaker 1: spreading the cost to everyone. Now that's really painful for
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Speaker 1: people on life's margins. I have to acknowledge that it's
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Speaker 1: one of the things they want to stay away from.
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Speaker 1: But for those out there, so people should quit soak
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Speaker 1: in the system. We shouldn't be people shouldn't be living
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Speaker 1: off the system for free. They need to be paying
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Speaker 1: their fair share. Well, if they got to pay ten
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Speaker 1: percent more or fifteen percent more for some product that
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Speaker 1: they want to buy, then they will be so just
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Speaker 1: looking for a little glimmer of positivity amid this chaos.
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Speaker 1: So the big mess is going to be if they
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Speaker 1: do find that he does not have this tariff authority
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Speaker 1: because there is no true emergency that would justify it.
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Speaker 1: How are they going to unring the bell of all
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Speaker 1: the tariffs that have been collected and how and might
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Speaker 1: they have to unring the bell of the treaties that
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Speaker 1: have been negotiated and the teriff relationships that Trumps negotiated
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Speaker 1: with some of these countries that were very well received
20:50
Speaker 1: and good for America. It's good question. I don't know
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Speaker 1: the answer to it, and I don't think the Supreme
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Speaker 1: Court justice is no yet either. Based upon the questioning, Tom,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. In a happy Friday eve to Hey,
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Speaker 1: good morning.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 4: If if the Ohio State Legislature can.
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Speaker 6: Ignore the Supreme Court of.
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Speaker 4: The State of Ohio when it comes to property taxes
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Speaker 4: being used for schools, couldn't Trump just ignore the Supreme Court?
21:16
Speaker 4: No whatever to sit I'm joking.
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Speaker 1: I know you are, but I want to happen. I
21:21
Speaker 1: want to burst the bubble of anybody wanting to invite
21:23
Speaker 1: a constitutional crisis of that magnet.
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Speaker 4: I don't want to do that. And I was really
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Speaker 4: that's more to try to rattle Jay a little bit,
21:30
Speaker 4: get him going this morning. I know that's not topic.
21:35
Speaker 4: Your your your biggest question and your couple of rants
21:39
Speaker 4: you already had this morning is where's the outrage?
21:42
Speaker 2: Uh?
21:42
Speaker 4: Anybody who wants to put together a podcast and call
21:46
Speaker 4: it outrage and talk about how all you people that
21:50
Speaker 4: that cried and screamed because of what the Democrat led
21:55
Speaker 4: government of Cincinnati has been doing to you. And then
21:59
Speaker 4: you don't even get up off your sorry lazy butts
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Speaker 4: and vote, or you go ahead and vote for the
22:05
Speaker 4: knuckleheads that did it to you. Anyway, mister Joe Strecker
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Speaker 4: would love to help you with that podcast, putting it
22:11
Speaker 4: together so you can cry and wail and and all that,
22:15
Speaker 4: and uh, he'll just sit there and laugh at you
22:17
Speaker 4: because you had your chance and you're gonna get another chance,
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Speaker 4: and what are you gonna do? So where's the outrage?
22:24
Speaker 4: That's the question. So the Democrats are really good at
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Speaker 4: keeping their people all stirred up with outrage. And the biggest,
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Speaker 4: the biggest way they do that is racism. Oh you're racist,
22:35
Speaker 4: Oh you're racist, you're anti this, your phobia that whatever.
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Speaker 4: They are really good at lying to everybody about what
22:43
Speaker 4: they should be afraid of and what do we have. Well,
22:46
Speaker 4: we're not We don't want to lie to people. I mean,
22:48
Speaker 4: if we're gonna call them out and say you're liars,
22:50
Speaker 4: well we're not gonna make stuffed up and lie to people.
22:53
Speaker 4: We got common sense. Well, common sense doesn't stir up
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Speaker 4: emotions like racism does, and in various other lives that
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Speaker 4: they use. That's the biggest difference between the way Democrats
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Speaker 4: get people to vote and the GOP gets people to vote.
23:09
Speaker 4: That's why they sit on their hands because, like you said,
23:12
Speaker 4: well we the Vallid initiative of the threat of it worked.
23:15
Speaker 4: He called the thing off. Well it's still not over
23:18
Speaker 4: you still he's still in office. What do you think
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Speaker 4: is gonna happen. It's just it goes to show you
23:25
Speaker 4: that people use their emotions a lot more than they
23:28
Speaker 4: use common sense. And so all right, so we gotta
23:32
Speaker 4: we gotta get people riled up with the truth, tell
23:35
Speaker 4: people that true, cheap it up. Nothing has changed. The
23:37
Speaker 4: problems are still there, the solutions are still out there
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Speaker 4: if we want to use them. It's just a matter
23:43
Speaker 4: of whether or not you are outraged enough to get
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Speaker 4: off your lazy butt and go vote when you have
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Speaker 4: a chance. So when you get a chance, you need
23:52
Speaker 4: to vote, and don't vote Democrat.
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Speaker 1: Have a great day, Brian, you too, Tom, And to
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Speaker 1: your point on that, I thought it was a really
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Speaker 1: interesting observations. Karl Rove and I know how a lot
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Speaker 1: of people feel about Carl Rove, but he's entitled to
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Speaker 1: an opinion. I thought this was something that was accurate,
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Speaker 1: but nonetheless probably not helpful, giving that outrage and anger
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Speaker 1: fueled by basically soundbites and without any explanation or connection
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Speaker 1: with reality. He suggested the GOP should learn something that
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Speaker 1: screening communist and socialist that run of the mill Democrats
24:25
Speaker 1: doesn't move even diehard mag of voters, he said. Explaining
24:29
Speaker 1: why Democrats' policies will raise the costs or hurt jobs
24:33
Speaker 1: and offering constructive, forward looking agenda's much better approach. Explaining
24:37
Speaker 1: why is the problem. It's easy to explain why, but
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Speaker 1: you need to keep someone's attention long enough to understand it.
24:45
Speaker 1: This whole shutdown the idea that people can ultimately conclude
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Speaker 1: that the shutdown is the Republican's fault, that is clearly
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Speaker 1: a reflection of their ignorance as to what led to it.
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Speaker 1: You have to walk through the steps got us to
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Speaker 1: the shutdown. You have to understand what the Democrats are
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Speaker 1: demanding to open the government up, and yes it is
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Speaker 1: one point two trillion dollars in cost, but ultimately why
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Speaker 1: they want to include this one point two trillion dollars
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Speaker 1: in cost in connection with these subsidies. You got to
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Speaker 1: go through the whole process and analysis. It's a hell
25:16
Speaker 1: a lot easier to just put an evil orange man
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Speaker 1: meme up there and scream fascism for whatever reason that
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Speaker 1: seems to resonate. But the only reason that can resonate.
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Speaker 1: And I've been going back to this a million different
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Speaker 1: times because people apparently don't understand what fascism means. If
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Speaker 1: you can sell somebody to Trump is somehow a fascist.
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Speaker 1: The only thing he has connected with fascism, and he's
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Speaker 1: the dynamic personality. But you know who else was Barack
25:41
Speaker 1: Obama extraordinarily dynamic personality. His picture was everywhere, they had
25:48
Speaker 1: the multi colored poster you know, Hope. I mean that
25:53
Speaker 1: was more reminiscent of something you might see in Hitler's
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Speaker 1: brown sure days, and during the Hitler regime with posters
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Speaker 1: everywhere and pictures of him everywhere, like Mussolini and every
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Speaker 1: other dictator, they put him up everywhere. That's a component
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Speaker 1: of fascism, that prominent figurehead. But beyond that, he's deregulating.
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Speaker 1: He's trying to grease the skids and make it easier
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Speaker 1: for business and industry, which is nothing remotely close to
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Speaker 1: what fascism does, which is control every element of business
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Speaker 1: and industry. Five three seven fifty two three talk got
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Speaker 1: some stack as stupid coming up, including in honor of
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Speaker 1: iHeart met the aviation expert Jay Ratliffe headline, Mile High
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Speaker 1: Duo gets off records. We'll get thank you, Jess dereckor QC.
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Speaker 1: Kinetics though, is the place where you get rid of
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Speaker 1: your pain and get rid of it by helping your
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Speaker 1: bus station by forty three fifty five KR City Talk
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Speaker 1: station jump straight into the Phone's got John on the
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Speaker 1: line right now. Has a comment, John, welcome to the
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Speaker 1: morning show. Thanks for calling.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning. I actually have to go to work
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Speaker 2: because millions on welfare are depending on me.
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Speaker 1: Good for you from each, according to each, according magnique.
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Speaker 2: Let me make this real quick. You know who should
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Speaker 2: be in the stack of stupid.
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Speaker 1: Brian, go ahead, huh, go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm going to tell you you should be in
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Speaker 2: the stack of stupid. The Republican Party for letting these
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Speaker 2: democrats ass clowns beat them with with with people like
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Speaker 2: a pure Vaul that should be in the stack of stupid.
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Speaker 2: The Republican Party should be in the stack of stupid.
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Speaker 2: Have a nice day.
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Speaker 1: You sound like about half a dozen listeners that I
27:42
Speaker 1: talked to yesterday at listener lunch. John. Yes, a lot
27:45
Speaker 1: of blame being levied towards the Republican Party here in
27:48
Speaker 1: Hamilton County, generally speaking, many people having to go at
27:51
Speaker 1: the state Republican Party as well. Lots of people believe
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Speaker 1: the failure was in that. There's a certain amount of agreement.
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Speaker 1: I want to go in acknowledge on that. I just
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Speaker 1: don't know what effort the Republican Party can engage in
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Speaker 1: to get people to go actually vote. I mean that
28:08
Speaker 1: needs to be the driving force. You have to go vote.
28:11
Speaker 1: And we knew it over and over again, talk about
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Speaker 1: it weeks and weeks leading up to the election. If
28:15
Speaker 1: you just get up and vote, the city's only going
28:17
Speaker 1: to have a twenty five percent turnout. Your vote can
28:20
Speaker 1: mean volumes in terms of change. Nope, didn't happen. I
28:26
Speaker 1: think the stack is stupid. There really should probably be
28:28
Speaker 1: in that sort of Hyde Park bond Hill thing, given
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Speaker 1: that they were dumped on by the city administration, yet
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Speaker 1: they went overwhelmingly in favor of Parlvall and the current administration,
28:38
Speaker 1: same council members pretty much across the board, with the
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Speaker 1: exception of one newbie an honor of I heartby the
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Speaker 1: Aviation next for Jay Rattleff. Get this one real quick here.
28:47
Speaker 1: The married couple got arrested for well allugedly joining the
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Speaker 1: mile High club while on a Jet Blue flight trist
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Speaker 1: Riley forty three and Christopher Arnold, two, flying off to Sarasota, Florida,
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Speaker 1: from New York. Female passenger told police that she was
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Speaker 1: traveling with her two children when during the takeoff from
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Speaker 1: JFK International, she spotted a woman later identified as Riley,
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Speaker 1: providing a manual pleasure service to her male companion. See
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Speaker 1: I'm being delicate here. She noticed that, she said, two
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Speaker 1: of my children were watching them, and they didn't stop.
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Speaker 1: After that. She was laying on him like if she
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Speaker 1: was going to do a different performance involving a different
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Speaker 1: part of her body, not that. One Joe Jet Blue
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Speaker 1: flight attendant named Brian Zepp told police that several youths
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Speaker 1: and their mother had witnessed Riley and Arnold performing a
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Speaker 1: sexual activity on board the jet flight. Jet Blue flight,
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Speaker 1: adding that he walked to missus Riley's seating area in
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Speaker 1: the twenty fifth row and witnessed her making what he
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Speaker 1: described as and I don't know what this means, Joe,
29:56
Speaker 1: maybe you can interpret it for me, up and down
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Speaker 1: movements with her head. Do you know what that means?
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Speaker 2: Phrasing?
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Speaker 1: Anyway, investigators know the further investigation indicator that Riley was
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Speaker 1: seen by two underage us performing a certain sexual act
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Speaker 1: or actually two different ones on mister Arnold after the
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Speaker 1: pairs July nineteen, the rest Sarasota by the Sarasota Police
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Speaker 1: Prosecutors consented to their own recognizance, so no bond case
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Speaker 1: review revealed October thirtieth court notices revealing the prosecutors had
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Speaker 1: dropped the criminal charges. They're no longer pursuing criminal charges
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Speaker 1: against them. So, as the article suggests, Joe, they got
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Speaker 1: off five six. I know, yes, I am being childish.
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Speaker 1: I apologized, but you know that's what the stack is
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Speaker 1: stupid is for in part anyway, And the Chimney Care
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Speaker 1: fireplace and STUFFA five two five KRC detalk station, What
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Speaker 1: did to talk about? Congressman Warren Davidson seven o five
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Speaker 1: The return to Kurt Hartman and power? Are you similar
31:02
Speaker 1: tonight seven pm Sunshine Laws and then Keegan Corcoran's gonna
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Speaker 1: tell us which wine we should be drinking with the
31:08
Speaker 1: election loss blues. That'll be at a thirty Purdue University
31:13
Speaker 1: West Lafe in Indiana, campus police working on with well
31:18
Speaker 1: witnesses about an unusual situation unfolding on campus yesterday. Officers
31:22
Speaker 1: got a call to the Active Learning Center but a
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Speaker 1: person covered in peanut butter from head to toe? Why
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Speaker 1: are you doing that? I don't know that we'll ever
31:30
Speaker 1: find out me. I love this. So you see a
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Speaker 1: guy walking around covered head toe with peanut butter? If
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Speaker 1: that's not unusual enough. The concern the potential danger for
31:41
Speaker 1: people with peanut analogies. WLFIVE reporting DOOS eighteen arrived shortly
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Speaker 1: after observing an increased police presence and confused students. Students
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Speaker 1: reported seeing the man walking around on campus. Cleaning crews
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Speaker 1: called into his sanitized services, coated in peanut butter and cornered.
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Speaker 1: Officers not known whether the man is a student or
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Speaker 1: if this was or was not a hazing Situation's situation
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Speaker 1: Efforts underway with campus police to gather more information not
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Speaker 1: part of the hazing process that I went through in college.
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Speaker 1: Not really through hazing though. Let's see here tomorrow Tech Friday,
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Speaker 1: Dave Patrol if we'll be talking about this, but we could.
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin man arrested for stalking after police said he used Grinder,
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Speaker 1: which is a dating app, to send strangers to victims'
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Speaker 1: homes as a form of harassment. Coming to a home
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Speaker 1: near you. Matthew Hubschmunn accused of what police call a
32:43
Speaker 1: year long pattern of disturbing and intrusive behavior. They say
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Speaker 1: he used a dating app, Grinder to arrange meetings between
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Speaker 1: unknown men and the victim. He would pose as the victim,
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Speaker 1: according to police, then direct the men to the victim's
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Speaker 1: home and instruct them to enter the residence upon arrival, phrasing,
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Speaker 1: I was thinking that could be setting somebody up to
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Speaker 1: get shot Castle doctrine. Over the course of more than
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Speaker 1: a year, numerous men showed up at the victim's home
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Speaker 1: under the false pretenses. Police said that the harassment created
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Speaker 1: a constant sense of fear and distress for the victim.
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Speaker 1: Suspect reportedly positioned himself nearby to watch the men show up,
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Speaker 1: and the police said that ultimately led to his arrest.
33:23
Speaker 1: Taking to the out Gammy Court or out of Gammy
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Speaker 1: County Jail for one kind of stalking, probably Joe. He
33:33
Speaker 1: appeared in court where the judge said a ten thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars bond also ordered him to stay away from the
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Speaker 1: victim and stay away from dating apps, including, of course Grinder,
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Speaker 1: but not exclusively Grinder. Preliminary hearings scheduled for tomorrow at
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Speaker 1: the out of Gami County Court if you're in the area.
33:58
Speaker 1: They're also looking for anybody else that his information related.
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Speaker 1: At six and six Air fifty five Kerosene Talk station,
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas wish and everybody very happy Friday Eve and
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Speaker 1: inviting you to stick around all morning, and I hope
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Speaker 1: you can. Congressman Warren Davidson's coming up in an hour.
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Speaker 1: We'll get the latest on the showdown and the shutdown.
34:16
Speaker 1: Will the Republicans flinch? A good question, longest shutdown in
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Speaker 1: American history and starting to feel it. Couse air traffic alone,
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Speaker 1: ten percent reduction in air traffic out there, a lot
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Speaker 1: of delays, a lot of folks not showing up for work.
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Speaker 1: And again ant of the guy I met yesterday came
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Speaker 1: up from Kentucky to let me know that he in
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Speaker 1: fact had been placed on furlough.
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Speaker 7: See.
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Speaker 1: He was the first person I met that has been
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Speaker 1: directly impacted by the shutdown. But it is having broader implications,
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Speaker 1: so will someone at Flinch empower you. Kurt Hartman shows
34:45
Speaker 1: up at eight oh five talk about the Sunshine Law
34:47
Speaker 1: programmer seminar. He's going to be given tonight seven pm
34:49
Speaker 1: empower Youoamerica dot org and then a little relief. Normally
34:52
Speaker 1: iHeart media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe, but since he has
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Speaker 1: Bell's palsy and I'm asking my listeners to pray for him,
34:58
Speaker 1: he'll get over it. Brady, God that happens, and he'll
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Speaker 1: be back soon or rather than later. Jay Rattliff, get
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Speaker 1: well quick. But Keegan Corkoran returns our Resident Samier, if
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Speaker 1: you lost the election, what kind of wine do you
35:09
Speaker 1: drink with that? Thank you Joe Drecker for the levity.
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Speaker 1: And since Pat brought it up early, you can feel
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Speaker 1: for to call five one three, seven four nine fifty
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Speaker 1: eight hundred two three thought. But it Pat patted early
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Speaker 1: in the program mentioned education, and I've been kind of
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Speaker 1: holding off on this wonderfully astute observation. Op ed piece
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Speaker 1: by Jack Miller, who's the founder and chairman of amritas
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Speaker 1: of the Jack Miller Center for Teaching America's founding principles
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Speaker 1: and History. And she had mentioned education, and part of
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Speaker 1: me thought immediately of this Mom Dannie proposal in New
35:42
Speaker 1: York universal childcare, and of course we had this in
35:45
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. I'm not quite sure where it's gone,
35:47
Speaker 1: but it seems to me to be a tragic thing
35:50
Speaker 1: when you have a child and you immediately handed over
35:52
Speaker 1: to the state for or the city whatever, you handed
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Speaker 1: over to government for all the education and in actually
35:57
Speaker 1: raising the child itself bodies. Universal childcare in New York
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Speaker 1: would cost would cover ready six week olds through five
36:07
Speaker 1: year olds, and then of course throw off the kindergarten
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Speaker 1: K through twelve and then off to some left wing university.
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Speaker 1: So we've seen the progression of woke ideology starts with
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Speaker 1: college education a couple of decades ago. You get all
36:21
Speaker 1: these left wingers coming out of college, they graduate, they
36:23
Speaker 1: get their teaching certificates, they go out into the K
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Speaker 1: through twelve education realm. They start perpetuating and passing along
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Speaker 1: this woke ideology and doctrinating students and never ever, ever, ever,
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Speaker 1: mentioning the founding fathers, the founding principles, or what made
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Speaker 1: this country great. It has been eradicated. That's the subject
36:41
Speaker 1: matter of the point. The right tactions have consequences. The
36:44
Speaker 1: lack of consequences in an action has also has consequences.
36:47
Speaker 1: America is in the throes of an epidemic of civil
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Speaker 1: illiteracy that can be traced to half a century of
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Speaker 1: not teaching the principles, history, and documents of her founding
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Speaker 1: in our most prestigious universities down to the primary school classrooms,
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Speaker 1: the teaching of our pre partisan founding principles and history
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Speaker 1: has been downgraded and corrupted, leading to at least two
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Speaker 1: generations of Americans without the knowledge to be participants in
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Speaker 1: self government or the resolve to defend our republic as
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Speaker 1: it as though that we weren't worn by George Washingt,
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Speaker 1: who identified education in civics as an essential pillar of
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Speaker 1: freedom in the earliest days of our republic, and much
37:25
Speaker 1: more recently by the late Supreme Court Justice Sandra O'Connor,
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Speaker 1: who reminded us that civic knowledge was not passed from
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Speaker 1: generation to generation in the gene pool, but rather must
37:35
Speaker 1: be taught and re taught to each new class of
37:39
Speaker 1: rising Americans. The great Americans have always understood that maintaining
37:42
Speaker 1: our freedom depends on passing down our founding principles and
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Speaker 1: history through education. In the twentieth century, Ronald Reagan also
37:50
Speaker 1: reminded us of freedom's fragility. But it's never been more
37:54
Speaker 1: than one generation away from extinction. He once said, It's
37:58
Speaker 1: not ours by the way of inherent It must be
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Speaker 1: fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it
38:04
Speaker 1: comes only once to a people. He was channeling the
38:09
Speaker 1: insights of other great Americans, such as Abraham Lincoln Frederick Douglas,
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Speaker 1: who understood that our heritage, heritage, and our liberty is
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Speaker 1: grounded and enduring moral truths about equal dignity of all
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Speaker 1: human beings. Seems as though those truths are no longer
38:24
Speaker 1: self evident to our republic. Political violence is on the rise,
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Speaker 1: and intolerance to colors too many of our intolerance colors
38:31
Speaker 1: too many of our public debates and even private discussions.
38:34
Speaker 1: It's no exaggeration to say that these are sorry consequences
38:38
Speaker 1: of a civil illiteracy epidemic that has raged in our
38:42
Speaker 1: body politic untreated for years. Yet it would be wrong
38:46
Speaker 1: to blame the crisis merely on the emergence of competing
38:49
Speaker 1: narratives like the New York Times sixteen nineteen project, which
38:52
Speaker 1: traces US history to the arrival of slaves and our
38:55
Speaker 1: shores and labels Americans as irredeemably racist. This and other
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Speaker 1: narratives filled a void that was created by a shameful
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Speaker 1: inaction for civil education. Notice the emphasis the civic education
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Speaker 1: crisis our country fass seems to us to be part
39:14
Speaker 1: of a larger cultural malaise, one that fails to foresee
39:17
Speaker 1: the consequences of our inactions in other realms of society,
39:22
Speaker 1: and then, once demonstrated, fails to do anything about them. Consider,
39:27
Speaker 1: for instance, inactions to prosecute petty thefts under one thousand
39:31
Speaker 1: dollars that have led to the exodus of retailers and
39:33
Speaker 1: no longer able to run their businesses in areas prone
39:36
Speaker 1: to these crimes. Similarly, cash free bail has led to
39:39
Speaker 1: the release of repeat offenders into society, where they again
39:41
Speaker 1: commit crimes, some of them violent. Indeed, of our actions
39:45
Speaker 1: as a nation sometimes have have had tragic consequences in wars, segregation,
39:51
Speaker 1: and financial mismanagement. So have we as Americans demonstrated that
39:56
Speaker 1: these sometimes devastating results of our inaction. It's not an
40:01
Speaker 1: overstatement to trace at least some of these problems of
40:04
Speaker 1: our society to an insufficient understanding of the rights and
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Speaker 1: responsibilities of citizens in a free society and the values
40:11
Speaker 1: they must share. A requisite understanding of these starts in
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Speaker 1: the home. I guess at six weeks, when you remove
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Speaker 1: from the home, you only got six weeks of opportunity
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Speaker 1: with your baby to teach them civics. I'm sure that
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Speaker 1: the New York education system is going to enlighten all
40:30
Speaker 1: of your young people in a profound, thorough civics lesson.
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Speaker 1: I had to interject, which was kind of one of
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Speaker 1: the reasons I wanted to dive on into this. You're
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Speaker 1: handing over the keys to your child's indoctrination from six
40:43
Speaker 1: weeks of age all the way through college under the proposal,
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Speaker 1: and none of it's going to include a Civics lesson anyway.
40:52
Speaker 1: People inspired with greater confidence in their civic tradition, however,
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Speaker 1: have the power to stop the march of tyranny. This
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Speaker 1: is we thankfully do not currently face the kind of
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Speaker 1: revolutionary extremism that led to the catastrophe in the last century.
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Speaker 1: Our civic health is trending in the wrong direction. More
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Speaker 1: and more young people are turning to socialism, communism, or
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Speaker 1: other forms of radicalism because they have not been educated
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Speaker 1: in how our American form of government provides the greatest
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Speaker 1: individual freedom and opportunity. Ben He mentions his organizations, Jack
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Speaker 1: Miller Center, and all the efforts they're taking to try
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Speaker 1: to bring back civic education across the education spectrum. But
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Speaker 1: is it too late? Are people going to embrace it
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Speaker 1: and welcome his type of organization or maybe make the
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Speaker 1: choice of sending children to a place like the Cincinnati
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Speaker 1: Classical Academy so they will get a thorough understanding of
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Speaker 1: America's founding principles. It's a good question, I doubt. Under
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Speaker 1: Mamdami's New York six weeks old through College Education proposal
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Speaker 1: that the Classical Academy will be an option for any
41:56
Speaker 1: parents in New York said reform must begin with acknowledging
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Speaker 1: the crisis at hand. Due to generations of inaction, Americans
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Speaker 1: are forgetting who we are supposed to be. Popular historian
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Speaker 1: David McCullough once said, something's eating away at the national
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Speaker 1: memory and a nation or community or a society can
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Speaker 1: suffer as much from the adverse effects of amnesia as
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Speaker 1: can an individual. Especially as the two hundred and fiftieth
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Speaker 1: anniversary of our country's birth approaches, it has never been
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Speaker 1: more important to remember who we are and to act
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Speaker 1: so that those memories come alive for the next generation
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Speaker 1: of citizens. I think he's definitely onto something, and one
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Speaker 1: thing I will observe. As terrible as Castro's Cuba is
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Speaker 1: still to this day and as crazy as it was,
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Speaker 1: he won the revolution got a little help from the CIA,
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Speaker 1: who didn't really have a keen understanding of Castro's politics,
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Speaker 1: which was a total embarrassment. Well, we got duped by
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Speaker 1: the New York Times, who made him out like this
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Speaker 1: hero in the mountains fighting against the evil batiase the regime,
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Speaker 1: and that was evil. When it comes out the other side,
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Speaker 1: he wins a conflict in he's a devout communist. Oh whoops,
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Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. But what did he do
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Speaker 1: from that moment forward? In addition to forcing people to
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Speaker 1: stand in four or five, sometimes six hour speeches about
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Speaker 1: the revolution and communism, they taught it literally every day
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Speaker 1: from that moment forward in the classroom the revolution. They
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Speaker 1: talked about the revolution, the founding principles, how do we
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Speaker 1: come together and take over this country? We call Cuba
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Speaker 1: the revolution. What was behind the revolution? Marxism, communism, They
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Speaker 1: pounded it into the people's head twenty four to seven.
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Speaker 1: The education system was predicated on teaching the revolution. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if we took one tenth of that sort of concept
43:44
Speaker 1: and ideas for education, our kids would get at least
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Speaker 1: some Civics education in the classroom. We quit taking it seriously.
43:54
Speaker 1: We forgot what made us great. We forgot it was
43:56
Speaker 1: taxation without representation. We forgot all the doors being kicked in,
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Speaker 1: and one of the reasons we have the Fourth Amendment
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Speaker 1: in the United States Constitution. We didn't teach our children
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Speaker 1: about the like the for example, the problems the colonists
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Speaker 1: faced with the Church of England and the mandated taxation
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Speaker 1: to keep the church down the street that maybe you
44:15
Speaker 1: didn't even belong to. The colonists incorporated. Well, the First Amendment,
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Speaker 1: Free exercise and no establishment. We're not a theocracy. We
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Speaker 1: have the freedom. That freedom came from their lived experience.
44:31
Speaker 8: On and on and on.
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Speaker 1: All these reasons why it's valuable and important to teach
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Speaker 1: our children these so they can see it when it's
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Speaker 1: coming and reject the idea that they're going to capitulate
44:42
Speaker 1: well and let someone trot over the freedoms and liberty
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Speaker 1: six sixteen Mike or Brian. I see her on the phone.
44:48
Speaker 1: I want to take your call, but amount of time
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Speaker 1: rambling honestly six twenty two about car City Talk Station
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Speaker 1: D two three talks Brian didn't want to hang out.
45:01
Speaker 1: That's okay. You can feel free to call if you like.
45:03
Speaker 1: And going back to the founding principles and having an
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Speaker 1: understanding of it and being grounded in them and believing
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Speaker 1: in them as I do, it provides an excellent springboard
45:11
Speaker 1: for all topics of conversation. I feel like I have
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Speaker 1: a firm set of principles, a little el libertarian, Brian.
45:16
Speaker 1: I trust you with your wallet, I trust you with
45:18
Speaker 1: your zipper. I don't want to control your life. I
45:20
Speaker 1: think that's the best way to go through life, not
45:21
Speaker 1: being heavy in terms and conditions of your life dictated
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Speaker 1: to you. So I can approach everything in every subject
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Speaker 1: matter from that perspective, and I'll cling to my freedom
45:29
Speaker 1: loving perspective. Doesn't always work out for everybody under that concept.
45:32
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, but the world's an imperfect place. But
45:35
Speaker 1: at least I have a grounded set of principles that
45:37
Speaker 1: allow me to freely say what I think is on
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Speaker 1: my mind. Do I believe everyone believes in what I say?
45:42
Speaker 9: No?
45:43
Speaker 1: Do I believe that there are critics out of the
45:44
Speaker 1: world who criticize what I say and my belief systems? Well,
45:47
Speaker 1: of course I do. I understand that. Am I ever
45:49
Speaker 1: going to win them over? I don't know, hopefully, but
45:51
Speaker 1: maybe not. Maybe vile things are being said about me.
45:54
Speaker 1: I honestly don't care. And I think that's the point
45:58
Speaker 1: of why I only reason I wanted to bring this up,
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Speaker 1: because I know that's really the perception I think you
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Speaker 1: have to go through life you don't care. Boiled down.
46:06
Speaker 1: Here's a great illustration of what I'm talking about. You
46:08
Speaker 1: got this Broadway star, someone named Kristin Chenoweth. I'd never
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Speaker 1: heard of her before, and I rarely bring up celebrities
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Speaker 1: for any reason whatsoever. They have an opinion, find that's okay,
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Speaker 1: they're entitled to it. But in the aftermath of Charlie
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Speaker 1: Kirk's murder, she said, I mean I disagreed with him
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Speaker 1: on almost every point I ever had heard him say.
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Speaker 1: But I believe he was a man of faith, and
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Speaker 1: I hope in that moment when he died, that he
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Speaker 1: felt connected with his faith. Even though I find what
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Speaker 1: his ideas, even though I find his ideas were abhorrent
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Speaker 1: to me, I still believe he's a father and a
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Speaker 1: husband and a man of faith, and I hope whatever
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Speaker 1: connection to God means that he felt it. Now, that
46:48
Speaker 1: is a clear statement of disagreement with Charlie Kirk, although
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Speaker 1: acknowledging the tragedy of the circumstance, and I can't believe
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Speaker 1: any human being could ever find that offensive. Well apparently
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Speaker 1: they and this wicked star got dumped on by all
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Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community. Anyway. It was tough on me, but
47:08
Speaker 1: I'm not going to answer any questions about it because
47:10
Speaker 1: I dealt with it. It nearly broke me, and that's
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Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. You probably know my heart, so
47:17
Speaker 1: you probably know she was an advocate for LGBTQ plus
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Speaker 1: values and principles, and since he was not, the whole
47:25
Speaker 1: community came unglued at her and criticized her for that
47:28
Speaker 1: really truly innocuous statement. So she had to backpedal, backpedal
47:34
Speaker 1: because of the outrage that she received online. Her life
47:39
Speaker 1: apparently depends on what she perceives the rest of the
47:44
Speaker 1: world's perception of her to be. She's broken emotionally because
47:49
Speaker 1: a whole lot of people found a problem with a
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Speaker 1: statement that was totally defensible. A lot of people live
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Speaker 1: their lives that way. It's not just Hollywood stars. Anyone
48:01
Speaker 1: with an Internet connection can make a statement about something
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Speaker 1: and you all have seen the backlash that can result
48:07
Speaker 1: from that. Now, when you make the statement you're prepared
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Speaker 1: to stand on your principles, Do you contemplate your principles
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Speaker 1: and your a willingness and ability to defend that statement
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Speaker 1: to the end, or do you think you're gonna have
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Speaker 1: a hard time defending yourself? And if you're in that
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Speaker 1: latter category, maybe it's better you not make the statement.
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Speaker 1: But if you make it, are you gonna bend to
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Speaker 1: the whim of basically the entire global population? Are you
48:37
Speaker 1: gonna bend to the whim of artificially created criticism which
48:41
Speaker 1: we all know, thanks to day have had or and
48:43
Speaker 1: a million articles have been written about it, statements and
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Speaker 1: criticisms and ridicule that are automatically created by computers out
48:50
Speaker 1: there basically operating on their own and designed to churn
48:53
Speaker 1: out and submit statements like that, criticizing you for whatever
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Speaker 1: thing you utter online. Oh, I choose pretty much not
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Speaker 1: to participate. There may be I doubt it because I
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Speaker 1: don't believe I have that much critical importance to anybody
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Speaker 1: in the world. But you know what, there may be
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Speaker 1: forums out there that make fun of me. There may
49:10
Speaker 1: be people out there who criticize and ridicule me. They're
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Speaker 1: entitled to the opinion, and I'm not gonna let it
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Speaker 1: sway my ideas. And the phone lines are open five
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Speaker 1: one three seven fifty eight hundred two three talk. Let's
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Speaker 1: engage in communication about our disagreements. Guy, I've got no
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Speaker 1: problem with that either. But stick by your guns. And
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Speaker 1: if you don't have a ground and enough set of
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Speaker 1: principles that guide what you are saying out in the open,
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Speaker 1: and you feel as though you're going to cower in,
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Speaker 1: Oh my, I know I really didn't mean that, Well,
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Speaker 1: then don't say it in the first place. Just the thought.
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Speaker 1: Six twenty six fifty five Kercite talk Station Cleveland apps
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Speaker 1: Hey Cleveland, now hold on one second. Strucker said you
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Speaker 1: got to get this in here, and then he did
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Speaker 1: make a good point on it. You'll probably appreciate it. Sadly,
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Speaker 1: we have our latest homicide, this one South Fairmont eight
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Speaker 1: pm last night. Man shot in the back of the head. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, back and head answered place. Uh succumbed to
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Speaker 1: us injuries at the university since a medical center. So
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Speaker 1: South Fairmont so Joe happily reminded me of the Cincinnia
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Speaker 1: Acquirer article about how your neighborhood voted for mayor, crime
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Speaker 1: being a really, really hot topic for the mayoral race.
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Speaker 1: At least we thought it was, given all of the
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Speaker 1: calamities leading up to the election. South Fairmont UH seventy
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Speaker 1: one to eighty four percent aftab par Ball. Notably, I'll
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Speaker 1: say it's doing Hi parking, because there it is. Hy
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Speaker 1: park came in fifty to seventy percent per ball. And
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Speaker 1: then there's that bond Hill problem eighty five to one
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Speaker 1: hundred percent AFTAB par bol in Bondhill, Cleveland, Al, thank
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Speaker 1: you for holding. Welcome to the morning show, my friend,
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Speaker 1: Good morning.
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Speaker 6: Pardon me, Brian getting over a little bit of bronchitus here.
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Speaker 6: I apologize, Okay, I'll try. I'll try to be true
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Speaker 6: shortened succinct here. Up to about the turn of the
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Speaker 6: twentieth century, education was a family and local thing, and
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Speaker 6: it was about then that the Progressive started their one
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Speaker 6: hundred year march toward authoritarianism. And it really wasn't until
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Speaker 6: the formation of the Department of Education in the nineteen
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Speaker 6: sixties that things really started to go downhill. And what
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Speaker 6: we're seeing after the election of Mom Donnie and his
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Speaker 6: declaration that there's going to be childcare from six weeks
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Speaker 6: on is basically.
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Speaker 2: The end game.
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Speaker 6: They want to create a bunch of automatons to the system,
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Speaker 6: and that's basically what we're dealing with. So that's my comment, Tom,
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Speaker 6: I Tom, I agree. Don't vote Democrat than you Cleveland.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate men. Hope you're on the med. Hope you're
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Speaker 1: on the men. That's exactly right. I mean, you can't
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Speaker 1: see that the writing company, I mean, it is advertised
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Speaker 1: to you they are taking over your children's brains. Since
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Speaker 1: that Classical Academy CVEG reduced flight capacity to beginning Friday
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Speaker 1: morning tomorrow morning, this consequence of the cuts by Federal
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Speaker 1: Aviation Administration the announcement yesterday. I mentioned this early in
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Speaker 1: the program, thinking about Jay Rattliffe again, Prayers for Jay Rattliffe.
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Speaker 1: FA announced it be decreasing the flight capacity ten percent
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Speaker 1: at forty major airports. Welcome to one of them, CVEG.
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Speaker 1: Not clear how many flights are going to be cut
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Speaker 1: daily at CVG, but I would recommend maybe calling ahead
52:47
Speaker 1: massive delays out there. Bus driveryccues are running a red light.
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Speaker 1: This happened in Boone County. It's been caught on dash camera.
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Speaker 1: Fox nineteen was sent to at dash camera showing the
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Speaker 1: Boone County school busading a traffic light. As it turns red,
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Speaker 1: the driver runs the light and makes a sharp left turn.
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Speaker 1: Humm Blox nineteen reached out to Boom County Schools about
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Speaker 1: the video. They said, yes, we have seen the video.
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Speaker 1: The incidents under investigation. It is a personnel matter. Those quote.
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Speaker 1: Of course, social media being what it is, lots of
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Speaker 1: people have seen it. Many said the driving in the
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Speaker 1: way show the video is unacceptable. Of course, so others
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Speaker 1: saying it's not a big deal. See what opinions are
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Speaker 1: like everybody's got one. Dennis has one. Dennis, thanks for
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Speaker 1: calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.
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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you for bringing me on so quickly. Saying
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Speaker 3: the areas that are suffering the worst of the criminal activity,
53:42
Speaker 3: like the public execution that was done yesterday or the
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Speaker 3: day before, that puts a chill through the whole community
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Speaker 3: about opposing the establishment, which is the Democrat Party in Cincinnati.
53:56
Speaker 3: You can't not underestimate the effect of law being forced,
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Speaker 3: Frederick Bastiat, just to put a fine point to it,
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Speaker 3: has a vigorous influence on how people will hope if
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Speaker 3: it becomes public that somebody is advocating for a Republican
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Speaker 3: in those districts, they're just as likely as anybody else
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Speaker 3: have a kid die from the effect ball assassination as
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Speaker 3: much as a bullet in the back of the head.
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Speaker 3: And that can't be understated. With the change in the
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Speaker 3: prosecutor's office limiting the ability of police officers to even
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Speaker 3: get a warrant or a heenus crime, let alone, some
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Speaker 3: of the broken window type philosophies that suppress clime in
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Speaker 3: whole communities, well.
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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be. There is that concern out there,
54:47
Speaker 1: you know, the world's gotten so small. Literally anything you
54:50
Speaker 1: utter is capable of being broadcast literally everywhere. So if
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Speaker 1: you have a yard sign supporting a Republican, you may
54:55
Speaker 1: be the target of attack. But I suppose in some
54:57
Speaker 1: areas you've got a Democrat sign in your front yard,
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Speaker 1: you may be the subject of an attack. This is
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Speaker 1: a risk that you run. Or you can just not
55:04
Speaker 1: put a sign in your front yard and go vote
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Speaker 1: what you want to vote and not tell anybody how
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Speaker 1: you voted, keeping the issue between you and the well.
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Speaker 1: I suppose the candidate of your choice. I don't know, complicated,
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Speaker 1: my friend. Appreciate the call. Six thirty six fifty five
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Speaker 1: Phone lines are open. Taking advantage of the phone lines
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Speaker 1: being opened, Maureen, Welcome back to the fifty five CARC
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Speaker 1: Morning Show. Always appreciate your calls.
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Speaker 10: Good morning, Brian. I wanted to talk about Bill Gates
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Speaker 10: and his strategic pivot on global warming that you talked
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Speaker 10: a lot about earlier in the week. Oh yeah, and yeah,
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Speaker 10: there was something going on at the same time as
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Speaker 10: that he was coming out saying those things where he's
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Speaker 10: changing his ideas on that.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 10: Apparently at the same time, the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired
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Speaker 10: by Senator Chuck Grassley was they opened an inquiry into
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Speaker 10: the bill and the Linda Gates Foundation regarding its compliance
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Speaker 10: with five oh one C three text status and rules.
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Speaker 10: So according Yeah, according to reports into twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 10: the Gates Foundation reportedly directed eleven point seven million dollars
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Speaker 10: to various arms of the CCP, two million dollars to
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Speaker 10: a company described as part of a China's military industrial sphere,
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Speaker 10: and six point seven million dollars to state run Chinese universities.
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Speaker 10: And the goal of the probe is determine if the
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Speaker 10: grants met legal regulatory standards. But at the same time,
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Speaker 10: I'm not sure if you are aware that the Health
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Speaker 10: and Human Services Secretary, Robert RFK Junior, he has started
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Speaker 10: a chemtrail task force. And I know you and I
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Speaker 10: have gone back and forth about the legitimacy of chemtrail. Yeah,
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Speaker 10: I know the spraying of yeah, very Miliminius.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: I saw the crisscross patterns when I was we had
56:52
Speaker 1: a weekend vacation. Little cabin we got as for a
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Speaker 1: high bid and a charity auction. We were in Indiana.
56:59
Speaker 1: Cure starts now the shoutout, But I looked up and
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Speaker 1: there was this plane. It was spewing out something that
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Speaker 1: was different than the other airplanes that had crisscrossed, and
57:08
Speaker 1: it went back and forth in a pattern, and I
57:10
Speaker 1: had never seen that before. That is definitely on a pattern.
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Speaker 1: So I recognized the definite plausibility and possibility of chem
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Speaker 1: trails when I used to reject the idea out of hand.
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Speaker 1: But I've been slightly more enlightened Morien, thanks to folks
57:24
Speaker 1: like you and my own observations.
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Speaker 10: Well, well, RFK started a chemtrail task force, and during
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Speaker 10: that is forming that task force, he's come upon some
57:34
Speaker 10: information about Bill Gates's connection with the chem trails, So
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Speaker 10: now they're going to be looking into him for that
57:42
Speaker 10: as well. So I'm wondering if that has a part
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Speaker 10: of the RFK was on I don't watch Doctor Phil show,
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Speaker 10: but he was on that show and he was talking
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Speaker 10: about things with the connection with Bill Gates. And there
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Speaker 10: he talked to a lot of ranchers in Idaho and
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Speaker 10: talking about the spraying of they're crops and they've been ruined,
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Speaker 10: which is hurting our food supply. And he also talked
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Speaker 10: with ranchers in Nebraska who lost whole hers of cattle
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Speaker 10: from respiratory failure right after they did the low altitude
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Speaker 10: chemtrial spring. So Bill Gates is looking and they're looking
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Speaker 10: into him for connections to.
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Speaker 2: That as well.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I have no problem with them investigating you.
58:21
Speaker 1: It's like the UFOs and aliens. You know, we've been
58:24
Speaker 1: talking about this for years and years, and finally they're
58:25
Speaker 1: getting information out about it. I don't know that anything's definitive,
58:28
Speaker 1: but at least they're telling people about what they've got,
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Speaker 1: what they don't know, what they know. I have no
58:32
Speaker 1: problem with information. Maybe. And here's what I'm praying, Maureen
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Speaker 1: RFKL do a really good job investigating this because he's
58:39
Speaker 1: really all about health and well being and the environment.
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Speaker 1: Great good for him. I'm hoping he finds nothing. I'm
58:44
Speaker 1: hoping this is all a do much new about nothing,
58:46
Speaker 1: And if he concludes that, then good, then we can
58:49
Speaker 1: move on and not talk about it like it's lizard
58:51
Speaker 1: people again. Or he finds something it is true. I
58:54
Speaker 1: think we're all entitled to know if our atmosphere is
58:56
Speaker 1: being polluted by the very people who claim to want
58:58
Speaker 1: to eradicate pollutants from our atmosphere, right.
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Speaker 10: Than well, Governor DeSantis past Bill's fifty six regarding geo
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Speaker 10: engineering and weather manipulation just this past April, and no anyway,
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Speaker 10: so he's working on that and banning those in the skies.
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Speaker 1: Again, and he doesn't cross to strike me as some
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Speaker 1: sort of conspiracy theorists. And I guess I have to
59:18
Speaker 1: ask the outlawed question, believing I know the answer to me, yes,
59:21
Speaker 1: did he have any evidence that that was going on
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Speaker 1: in the state of Florida to require him to enact
59:25
Speaker 1: that bill or pass that legislation? I suspect he was
59:28
Speaker 1: presented with proof, otherwise it would have been a stupid exercise,
59:32
Speaker 1: right right.
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Speaker 10: They have laboratory samples of the different chemicry found in
59:36
Speaker 10: these we.
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Speaker 1: Answer this before. I'll let you get your point out,
59:39
Speaker 1: but I answer me this, what what are these chemtrails?
59:43
Speaker 1: This analysis? What does it revealed they're trying to do
59:46
Speaker 1: if it's killing cows? And I'll acknowledge you made that
59:50
Speaker 1: statement not knowing anything about whether or not that happened,
59:52
Speaker 1: But what are they doing it for? And what is
59:55
Speaker 1: the purpose of any given chem trail.
59:58
Speaker 10: Well, they're finding out that the bear malumium and austrontium
1:00:01
Speaker 10: and fungus spores are causing Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and people,
1:00:05
Speaker 10: and they're also so that goes to.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on that it may be causing that,
1:00:11
Speaker 1: but that's not the reason they're putting it out there.
1:00:14
Speaker 1: Or are you telling me our government is polluting the
1:00:15
Speaker 1: year so that we all get Alzheimer's.
1:00:18
Speaker 10: Well, there's a deep state involved here that would like
1:00:21
Speaker 10: to see a decreased population.
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Speaker 1: I know you're all about that.
1:00:24
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I am. I know the whole globalist agenda
1:00:29
Speaker 10: and Agenda twenty thirty.
1:00:31
Speaker 1: So that's a yes to my question. Marine. Yes, they
1:00:33
Speaker 1: are doing this intentionally to give us all Alzheimer's well, well.
1:00:38
Speaker 10: To affect the population so that they're easily controlled. The
1:00:42
Speaker 10: goal is to decrease the population. It's control and power
1:00:47
Speaker 10: is the ultimate goal. And the fewer people you have,
1:00:49
Speaker 10: the easier it is to control population. And when they
1:00:52
Speaker 10: have Alzheimer's and Parkinson's, you saw a lot of drugs too.
1:00:56
Speaker 10: But anyway, so yeah, it's Agenda twenty thirty. He kind
1:01:00
Speaker 10: of goes into the whole thing about a decreased population. Well,
1:01:04
Speaker 10: whether or not conspiracy theory, But that's kind of me.
1:01:07
Speaker 1: That's fine. I don't mind you bringing it up. And
1:01:10
Speaker 1: I'm free too, as I have been sort of poking
1:01:13
Speaker 1: holes around the margins to find out where all these
1:01:15
Speaker 1: motivations everything comes from. Fine, you have answers to that,
1:01:18
Speaker 1: that's okay. Whether people agree with you or not, that's
1:01:20
Speaker 1: okay too. Those theories have been flowing around for a
1:01:22
Speaker 1: long time. But insofar as Bill Gates is shifting in
1:01:25
Speaker 1: this nonsense that carbon dioxide and global warming somehow represents
1:01:29
Speaker 1: a true existential threat, which it never has, I think
1:01:31
Speaker 1: the main reason he's doing that is not to get
1:01:33
Speaker 1: the attention focused away from his shenanigans and his illegal activities,
1:01:37
Speaker 1: perhaps with the Gates Foundation. I think he's doing it
1:01:40
Speaker 1: to streamline the process so he and other major industrial
1:01:44
Speaker 1: company owners can get the nuclear power they want. I
1:01:47
Speaker 1: think they're doing these data centers and they need to
1:01:49
Speaker 1: shift the dynamic and get a lot of abundant power.
1:01:53
Speaker 1: And of course with the Department of Energy recently along
1:01:55
Speaker 1: with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission streamlining the process finally to
1:01:59
Speaker 1: get it more nuclear power online, they're bending to what
1:02:03
Speaker 1: he needs, and he's going to deliver on getting this
1:02:05
Speaker 1: nuclear power. So I'm glad he did the shift, whether
1:02:08
Speaker 1: it's for something related to Gates Foundation. But what really
1:02:10
Speaker 1: pisses me off moreying about all this, the demand for clean,
1:02:13
Speaker 1: reliable energy by data centers and major industrial companies is
1:02:17
Speaker 1: bringing about a nuclear power revolution that we should have
1:02:20
Speaker 1: been entitled to and had already by now, even without
1:02:23
Speaker 1: the massive needs of data centers. Right, I get that.
1:02:27
Speaker 10: I get that it could be a double edged not
1:02:29
Speaker 10: double edged sword, but dual purpose. You know, he's trying
1:02:33
Speaker 10: to kind of clean up his image because he knows
1:02:35
Speaker 10: they're onto him, and he also can benefit from it
1:02:39
Speaker 10: from what you just said, right, well, yeah, not a dummy.
1:02:42
Speaker 1: And to continue your theme, the fast tracking of nuclear
1:02:46
Speaker 1: power would allow these data centers to function twenty four
1:02:48
Speaker 1: to seven and do their number crunching and probably fast
1:02:51
Speaker 1: forward the realities that you are talking about them wanting
1:02:54
Speaker 1: to bring about. AI helps them with that.
1:02:57
Speaker 10: All right, exactly, love Mark, I love you, Marian.
1:03:01
Speaker 1: Go ahead, one more thing.
1:03:03
Speaker 10: There's a movie coming out tomorrow that everybody needs to
1:03:05
Speaker 10: go see. I don't think it's any coincidence that it's
1:03:07
Speaker 10: coming out now, but it's called Neuremberg. The movie it
1:03:11
Speaker 10: stars Russell Crowe starts tomorrow. It's going to talk about
1:03:14
Speaker 10: military tribunal switch, another hot topic of mine. So everybody
1:03:18
Speaker 10: go watch this movie. It starts tomorrow, Nuremberg. To learn
1:03:21
Speaker 10: a lot.
1:03:21
Speaker 1: I hope it's good.
1:03:22
Speaker 10: Mary, you up things to come?
1:03:24
Speaker 1: Okay, Maury, thank you so much for listening to the
1:03:26
Speaker 1: program calling in. I do really appreciate your calls, even
1:03:28
Speaker 1: if you and I come to loggerheads over the truth, yeah,
1:03:31
Speaker 1: kind or lack of there off all right, keep it up,
1:03:34
Speaker 1: so if you keep you on my toes. Six forty
1:03:35
Speaker 1: nine fifty five Kerseedy Talk Station Prestigion. It's six fifty
1:03:38
Speaker 1: four or fifty five. Kerseedy talks to Mesh Congressman Warren
1:03:42
Speaker 1: Davidson after the top of the our News and further
1:03:43
Speaker 1: to the morning's point, I saw this article zero head.
1:03:46
Speaker 1: You want to find it visualized in the Cost of
1:03:47
Speaker 1: the American Dream in twenty twenty five, speaking of a
1:03:50
Speaker 1: point about population control, I think that's coming about by
1:03:54
Speaker 1: people's own choices, and the reasons may be nefarious. If
1:03:59
Speaker 1: life has gotten a lot more expensive and affordability was
1:04:02
Speaker 1: a huge issue, as according to all the pundits out there, affordability, affordability, affordability,
1:04:07
Speaker 1: which got a lot worse under the Biden administration. When
1:04:09
Speaker 1: you run the printing press twenty four to seven, it
1:04:11
Speaker 1: does water down the value of the dollar. So they
1:04:14
Speaker 1: have that to point to. But maybe that was intentional
1:04:18
Speaker 1: point from the article. US home buyer age median age
1:04:21
Speaker 1: of a US home buyer now fifty six years old,
1:04:24
Speaker 1: and that's up from thirty one years old in nineteen
1:04:26
Speaker 1: eighty one. Affordability is the issue, and of course lack
1:04:30
Speaker 1: of housing. When you bring twenty million people into the
1:04:33
Speaker 1: country over a very short period of time, you tend
1:04:36
Speaker 1: to have a housing crisis because you can't respond quickly
1:04:38
Speaker 1: enough to deal with that. Meanwhile, they point out US
1:04:41
Speaker 1: fertility rates have hit record lows amid rising unaffordability. I
1:04:45
Speaker 1: know you've probably read the articles about the fertility rates.
1:04:47
Speaker 1: Nobody's having children anymore, one, I think, because people have
1:04:51
Speaker 1: become more inherently selfish. It's me, me, me, first, Why
1:04:54
Speaker 1: would I bring a children into this world. We're all
1:04:56
Speaker 1: going to die. We're a bunch of cockroaches because of
1:04:57
Speaker 1: global warming. And the reason is or just one after
1:05:01
Speaker 1: another after another, and if you took the global warming
1:05:03
Speaker 1: nonsense out of the equation, you didn't think children were
1:05:06
Speaker 1: cockroaches that were going to destroy the planet, then you
1:05:08
Speaker 1: probably would be more inclined to have one. If you
1:05:11
Speaker 1: realize the joy and beauty that is to have a
1:05:13
Speaker 1: family and to have loved ones that you created and
1:05:15
Speaker 1: nurtured and developed, you probably would have children because it's
1:05:18
Speaker 1: an awesome experience. But when it comes to the cost,
1:05:21
Speaker 1: you have no control over that. And the more expensive
1:05:23
Speaker 1: it is to live, eat and everything, the more you
1:05:25
Speaker 1: have to do a can I even afford it to
1:05:28
Speaker 1: have a child as much as I might want to
1:05:30
Speaker 1: have one. So the manipulation of economics can have the
1:05:33
Speaker 1: impact of yes, you deciding you don't want to have
1:05:36
Speaker 1: children because it's just too expensive. And the figure that
1:05:39
Speaker 1: they used for raising two children in this current environment,
1:05:43
Speaker 1: and I take issue with it, but raising two kids
1:05:48
Speaker 1: from birth to age eighteen plus, and this is why
1:05:51
Speaker 1: I bring it up, plus a four year college public
1:05:54
Speaker 1: or four year education at a public college eight hundred
1:05:58
Speaker 1: and seventy six thousand dollars, And I thought, well, you
1:06:02
Speaker 1: don't need the college degree. Put them in the trades,
1:06:05
Speaker 1: let them earn while they learn. But if you took
1:06:08
Speaker 1: that component out, that would probably be a sizeable drop
1:06:10
Speaker 1: from the figure that they created. Some people say a
1:06:14
Speaker 1: four year college may cost you is seventy five to
1:06:16
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars, So why not take two hundred
1:06:18
Speaker 1: grand off the top. Then do the math, divide it
1:06:21
Speaker 1: over eighteen years, and you realize, you know what, maybe
1:06:24
Speaker 1: the beauty of raising a family is indeed worth. It
1:06:27
Speaker 1: might have to tighten my belt a little bit, might
1:06:29
Speaker 1: have to deny myself a few things in favor of
1:06:32
Speaker 1: getting whatever the child needs for his or her development.
1:06:35
Speaker 1: Trust me, that trade off well well worth it. Congressman
1:06:40
Speaker 1: Davidson after the top of the hour news hope we
1:06:42
Speaker 1: can stick around today's top headlines coming up at the
1:06:50
Speaker 1: seven oh six at above KRCV talk station that be Thursday.
1:06:55
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas always looking forward to talking with Congressman Warren Davidson,
1:06:58
Speaker 1: So we get to do that right now. Become back,
1:07:00
Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. I certainly appreciate your willingness to come on
1:07:02
Speaker 1: the fifty five Carsing Morning Show and address the listeners
1:07:05
Speaker 1: and me and answer the question is the GOP going
1:07:08
Speaker 1: to give up on this whole shutdown thing. Welcome back,
1:07:10
Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. It's great to have you on as always.
1:07:14
Speaker 8: It's always an honor of Brian. And is the GOP
1:07:16
Speaker 8: going to give up on it? I mean, look, that's
1:07:19
Speaker 8: been my frustration a lot of the Gops fighting like
1:07:21
Speaker 8: the CRS. What we're fighting for, You're like, nothing preserves
1:07:25
Speaker 8: the status quo, like a continuing resolution. It's just yeah,
1:07:28
Speaker 8: what you were doing, just keep doing that. So it
1:07:30
Speaker 8: is meant to be a peace offering, a truce to say, well,
1:07:34
Speaker 8: let's at least keep the government open while we continue
1:07:37
Speaker 8: our negotiations. Democrats have rejected that, I don't know fourteen
1:07:40
Speaker 8: to fifteen times. However, many times the Senate Democrats won't
1:07:44
Speaker 8: get to sixty votes to even have the real vote,
1:07:47
Speaker 8: So this is a cloture thing that the real binding
1:07:50
Speaker 8: vote could be later. So you could say, well, go
1:07:51
Speaker 8: ahead and have your vote and vote for that. But
1:07:54
Speaker 8: if you're opposed to the measure, you could simply say
1:07:57
Speaker 8: I'm opposed. But they won't do that in the Senate. Yet,
1:08:02
Speaker 8: there are signs that they might be willing to start
1:08:05
Speaker 8: talking about doing it, maybe over this weekend. I think
1:08:09
Speaker 8: there's a fairly decent chance by the middle of the
1:08:12
Speaker 8: next week and the next week we'll get it done.
1:08:15
Speaker 8: You know, once they did shut the government down, I
1:08:17
Speaker 8: felt like, you know, there's a decent chance that this
1:08:20
Speaker 8: goes past the election, but it's certainly almost certainly going
1:08:24
Speaker 8: to be over before Thanksgiving. So that puts us in
1:08:26
Speaker 8: the window that right.
1:08:27
Speaker 1: Now, because they all have to use an airplane to
1:08:29
Speaker 1: fly someplace and the air traffic is getting shut down.
1:08:32
Speaker 1: That was the announcement yesterday, And the sting is starting
1:08:34
Speaker 1: to be felt beyond those who just been placed on leave.
1:08:40
Speaker 8: Yeah, and look, you know it's felt because everyone has
1:08:45
Speaker 8: at some point somebody they know, well that's affected. I mean,
1:08:49
Speaker 8: and members of Congress do because you know, you're sitting
1:08:52
Speaker 8: there looking at your staff and they're looking at you like,
1:08:54
Speaker 8: we're going to get this stunt, boss, because they're not
1:08:56
Speaker 8: getting paid. So you know, you look at some of
1:08:58
Speaker 8: these kinds of things. Where in our area right Patterson
1:09:03
Speaker 8: Air Force Base is probably the biggest area that's affected,
1:09:05
Speaker 8: the largest employer in the state. And you know, people
1:09:08
Speaker 8: always say, well, why do we even have non essential employees?
1:09:11
Speaker 8: And that's not necessarily a relative importance, it's just a
1:09:14
Speaker 8: sense of urgency. Like obviously you can't furlow the federal
1:09:17
Speaker 8: prison guards or the prison wouldn't work. But you know,
1:09:21
Speaker 8: the procurement wing of the Air Force is important. Generally
1:09:24
Speaker 8: they're working on longer range stuff than buying stuff to
1:09:27
Speaker 8: keep the Air Force open today. So the people that
1:09:30
Speaker 8: are working on say a project for future fighter plan
1:09:32
Speaker 8: or something like that, they're furloughed right now. The military
1:09:36
Speaker 8: people are at work. It's important that we continue to
1:09:39
Speaker 8: do these kinds of developments. I'd say we could be
1:09:40
Speaker 8: a little more focused and effective at it, but nevertheless,
1:09:44
Speaker 8: some of those people are very essential and they're not
1:09:47
Speaker 8: at work right now because the timing and the urgency.
1:09:51
Speaker 8: So you know, some of these kinds of things will
1:09:53
Speaker 8: be felt in the long run, but for a lot
1:09:55
Speaker 8: of people in their personal household, they're like, things are fine,
1:10:00
Speaker 8: keep this going, so we'll see where we are.
1:10:02
Speaker 1: Yeah. At listener lunch yesterday, I met the first person
1:10:06
Speaker 1: that I had encountered that was directly impacted. He's a
1:10:08
Speaker 1: guy that was placed on furlough, and so I had
1:10:10
Speaker 1: a good conversation with him. He didn't seem really too
1:10:13
Speaker 1: angry about the whole thing. He's like, have you met
1:10:14
Speaker 1: anybody who's been directly impacted, yet he's like, no, welcome
1:10:17
Speaker 1: to the first person. So, yeah, it hasn't reached its tentacles,
1:10:21
Speaker 1: hasn't reached that far. But when it does start interrupting
1:10:23
Speaker 1: things like people's holiday travel, then you're going to hear
1:10:26
Speaker 1: more and more angry voices like, wait a minute, it
1:10:28
Speaker 1: does impact me. So if you say it's going to
1:10:30
Speaker 1: be resolved by Thanksgiving, and I think I'm in agreement
1:10:33
Speaker 1: with you on that for a variety of different reasons,
1:10:35
Speaker 1: does that mean the Senate Democrats are finally just going
1:10:38
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, we'll accept the clean resolution and keep
1:10:40
Speaker 1: spending at Biden levels and then go back to work
1:10:43
Speaker 1: on the twelve Appropriations bills, which is what the whole
1:10:45
Speaker 1: setup was for. But doesn't the CR as it currently
1:10:48
Speaker 1: exist keep the government open until some date in the
1:10:51
Speaker 1: short term near future.
1:10:54
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the currencyr expires November twenty first, So
1:10:57
Speaker 8: the version that passed the House, the version that they've
1:11:00
Speaker 8: been voting on, expirers November twenty first, So it's not
1:11:04
Speaker 8: really rational to pass that with that date. So I
1:11:06
Speaker 8: think the minimal change that the Senate will do is
1:11:09
Speaker 8: change the date We were really close to being done
1:11:13
Speaker 8: with three of the appropriations bills in the House and Senate.
1:11:16
Speaker 8: They're generally bundled in twelve. There's no magic reason it's
1:11:19
Speaker 8: twelve bills. Like you normally have military construction and VA
1:11:24
Speaker 8: funding in one bill. You normally have transportation and hood
1:11:30
Speaker 8: in one bill. I mean, so it's not like a
1:11:31
Speaker 8: magic combination. These things are clustered. But we had three
1:11:34
Speaker 8: of the twelve bills done in the House and Senate,
1:11:37
Speaker 8: and there are differences between them, and there were conferencing
1:11:40
Speaker 8: those and some of those meetings have gone on and
1:11:42
Speaker 8: they're not necessarily fully resolved, but there are a lot
1:11:44
Speaker 8: of people fighting to say, let's put those three bills
1:11:47
Speaker 8: on with the CR and show momentum towards the parts
1:11:53
Speaker 8: of funding that are bipartisan. So there might be some
1:11:56
Speaker 8: kind of face saving compromise like that, But those kinds
1:11:59
Speaker 8: of things were already pretty close. And you know, there
1:12:01
Speaker 8: might be out of the one and a half trillion
1:12:03
Speaker 8: dollar list of demands, some things that were bipartisan. I
1:12:07
Speaker 8: can't find anything in that list that I want to
1:12:09
Speaker 8: vote for as a single line item, as a standalone provision,
1:12:14
Speaker 8: but some of those things might be so not toxic
1:12:17
Speaker 8: that they could be added to a bill and wouldn't
1:12:19
Speaker 8: necessarily lose votes some of them. If you add them
1:12:22
Speaker 8: to the bill, well you're going to lose a lot
1:12:24
Speaker 8: of Republican votes, but maybe you pick up a lot
1:12:25
Speaker 8: of Democrat votes. So we'll see. They may finally get
1:12:29
Speaker 8: to that point. But for the longest time that was
1:12:31
Speaker 8: the Democrats like, here's our list of one and a
1:12:32
Speaker 8: half trained dollar demands, and they didn't want to talk
1:12:35
Speaker 8: about anything but that whole one and a half trillion.
1:12:37
Speaker 8: They might highlight one or two things, but their goal
1:12:40
Speaker 8: was to get to some point. Maybe this is the
1:12:43
Speaker 8: point they wanted to get.
1:12:45
Speaker 1: Well, I really truly believe part of the strategy I
1:12:48
Speaker 1: suppose you can keep the government shut down, that is
1:12:50
Speaker 1: a strategy of some sort was to impact the election
1:12:53
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Do you think that had some measure of success?
1:12:56
Speaker 1: Can give given the outcome that was not good for
1:12:59
Speaker 1: the Republican inside of the Ledger anyway?
1:13:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:13:02
Speaker 8: I mean you look at Republicans that are saying, well,
1:13:04
Speaker 8: without Trump on the ballot, we have a hard time
1:13:06
Speaker 8: motivating our voters. Well, Democrats are the same way. Trump
1:13:10
Speaker 8: wasn't on the ballot. So how do you motivate your voters, Well,
1:13:13
Speaker 8: they got caught fighting. It's clear they're fighting for something
1:13:15
Speaker 8: other than the status quo. And the status quo isn't
1:13:18
Speaker 8: popular with anybody. Nobody likes it because it didn't freaking
1:13:20
Speaker 8: work it. So we're supposed to be changing it. And
1:13:24
Speaker 8: that's where my frustration with the Republicans has been. Yeah,
1:13:27
Speaker 8: we're playing decent defense. I'm glad the Speaker in a
1:13:29
Speaker 8: lot of ways has kept us out because it's prevented
1:13:32
Speaker 8: the surrender Caucus from forming and saying, oh, let's compromise
1:13:35
Speaker 8: even further. It's like, no, the CR was the compromise.
1:13:38
Speaker 1: Quit it, you know. So if more people understood exactly
1:13:44
Speaker 1: how it got to this point in time, there would
1:13:46
Speaker 1: be no argument that who's to blame. If blame is
1:13:48
Speaker 1: this key critical element for this shutdown. I mean, you
1:13:52
Speaker 1: set the whole thing up to take all the wind
1:13:54
Speaker 1: out of the Democrats sales by passing the Continuing Resolution
1:13:57
Speaker 1: to keep funding levels of Biden era spending. I mean
1:13:59
Speaker 1: that should have been the end of the discussion right there.
1:14:01
Speaker 1: Or the CR passes, you work on the appropriations bills
1:14:04
Speaker 1: and we're all done and moving on with our lives.
1:14:07
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that was the way I was designing.
1:14:09
Speaker 8: I mean, you look at it, the shutdown, it's like
1:14:10
Speaker 8: normally shutdowns over like, well, we put some really aggressive
1:14:14
Speaker 8: provision in this bill, and you know, okay, it's partisans
1:14:18
Speaker 8: so we can't get the votes or something like that.
1:14:21
Speaker 8: There's nothing in this bill. I mean, now, granted, we
1:14:23
Speaker 8: passed some other things earlier in the year, and that's
1:14:26
Speaker 8: what they're you know, upset about. I mean, whether medicaid
1:14:29
Speaker 8: they want to keep giving it to illegals in some states,
1:14:32
Speaker 8: food stamps for example, they're talking about that today. But
1:14:35
Speaker 8: you know, those kinds of programs. We said, look, if
1:14:37
Speaker 8: you're able bodied, working age adult, you don't have the
1:14:40
Speaker 8: penny kids at home. I mean, you get to go
1:14:42
Speaker 8: to work eventually, go to work, go to school, volunteer,
1:14:45
Speaker 8: do something productive, just like you would expect a friend
1:14:48
Speaker 8: or family member if you're going to help them out.
1:14:50
Speaker 8: You know, you help them out in a time of need,
1:14:51
Speaker 8: but you wouldn't help them out forever. And you know,
1:14:55
Speaker 8: we've got millions of Americans that way. And the crazy
1:14:58
Speaker 8: thing is we get millions of non America. There's tons
1:15:00
Speaker 8: of tons of non citizens on this list of forty
1:15:04
Speaker 8: two million people. You think of that forty two million people,
1:15:07
Speaker 8: that's bigger than the population of Canada.
1:15:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. And you know, I saw an
1:15:13
Speaker 1: article and I hope I get the facts roughly correct,
1:15:15
Speaker 1: but I think it was during the Biden administration of
1:15:18
Speaker 1: the asylum applications globally people trying to leave their country
1:15:22
Speaker 1: seeking asylum in another country. In terms of the global
1:15:25
Speaker 1: population seeking to do that, fifty percent of those requests
1:15:28
Speaker 1: came to the United States. I mean. The only reason
1:15:30
Speaker 1: I bring that up illustrates that, yeah, we are the
1:15:33
Speaker 1: destination land. People want to leave their ridiculously govern authoritarian
1:15:39
Speaker 1: regime or communist regime or socialist regime because it's a
1:15:42
Speaker 1: terrible life and they want to come to America. And
1:15:44
Speaker 1: the problem with that is conceptually it may be okay
1:15:46
Speaker 1: because we get the benefit of all these people and
1:15:48
Speaker 1: jobs and everything, but in the final analysis, they're automatically entitled,
1:15:52
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, to hook themselves up to our social
1:15:54
Speaker 1: welfare safety net, which isn't even funded well enough to
1:15:57
Speaker 1: serve the American people who expect it.
1:16:01
Speaker 8: Yeah, and look, a lot of people on immigration they say, oh,
1:16:03
Speaker 8: let's just go back to the days of statue of liberty.
1:16:06
Speaker 8: Give us your tired, you're poor. Yeah, let's go back
1:16:09
Speaker 8: to that where it like to come here. Part of
1:16:11
Speaker 8: the condition was you get nothing. There is no welfare
1:16:14
Speaker 8: state to begin with at that point. But even if
1:16:17
Speaker 8: there were, you can't be a ward of the state.
1:16:19
Speaker 8: You can't be a burden on the population. You come here,
1:16:24
Speaker 8: and yeah, you get to be here. It's a slant
1:16:26
Speaker 8: of opportunity, but you don't get your neighbor's.
1:16:28
Speaker 1: Money, exactly right, And there were no social welfare safety
1:16:33
Speaker 1: programs when Ellis Island was running. We're overflowing with people. Pause,
1:16:37
Speaker 1: we're being Congressman Davidson back. I want to ask you
1:16:39
Speaker 1: about yesterday's a tariff debate for the Supreme Court, the
1:16:42
Speaker 1: oral arguments there, and it does not look good for
1:16:44
Speaker 1: Donald Trump if you can read the justice's tea leaves.
1:16:47
Speaker 1: What are we going to do about that? Let's see
1:16:49
Speaker 1: your boy back? How about that? From Congressman Warren Davidson
1:16:51
Speaker 1: the talk station seven fifty five KRCD Talk station. Brian
1:16:56
Speaker 1: Thomas here with Congression Warre and Davidson talking shut down
1:16:58
Speaker 1: and for it real quick. Congressrom Davidson before we leave
1:17:01
Speaker 1: that topic, and I got to ask you about the
1:17:03
Speaker 1: tariff situation to the extent you've got an opinion or
1:17:05
Speaker 1: thought on it. But is it possible that, assuming the
1:17:09
Speaker 1: government reopens under whatever circumstances, that they are going to
1:17:12
Speaker 1: move toward the omnibus thing or are we pass that option,
1:17:16
Speaker 1: because that's the kind of scary stuff the sausage making
1:17:18
Speaker 1: goes on with omnibus. You end up with a whole
1:17:21
Speaker 1: lot of individuals getting what they want for their state
1:17:24
Speaker 1: and usually cost American tax bar a whole lot of money.
1:17:26
Speaker 8: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, we're definitely not ready for an omnibus.
1:17:30
Speaker 8: We you know, we still don't even have all the
1:17:32
Speaker 8: details worked out on like defense appropriations. That's usually one
1:17:35
Speaker 8: of the big ones that gets a lot of detail
1:17:37
Speaker 8: added to it. And we have a Defense Authorization Act
1:17:40
Speaker 8: that needs to pass before we do the defense appropes.
1:17:43
Speaker 8: So we've got the three bills that's sometimes called a
1:17:45
Speaker 8: minibus because it's instead of twelve bills, it's essentially a
1:17:49
Speaker 8: twenty five percent bus, you know, So it's but those
1:17:53
Speaker 8: bills have all passed before the House, so these aren't
1:17:56
Speaker 8: like things that haven't passed these These have passed the
1:17:59
Speaker 8: House and they've passed Senate, and and so combining those
1:18:03
Speaker 8: in a conference thing really isn't the same kind of
1:18:06
Speaker 8: thing as what you see in an omnibus, because we
1:18:09
Speaker 8: did have the debate on those bills in the House.
1:18:11
Speaker 8: We did offer amendments, and you know, we know what's
1:18:14
Speaker 8: in them, and you know the realities that are all
1:18:16
Speaker 8: big enough to go, well, there's some things in there
1:18:18
Speaker 8: I really don't like. And you know, to be honest,
1:18:20
Speaker 8: one of the biggest things that I want but we
1:18:22
Speaker 8: can't get the votes for is I don't think the
1:18:24
Speaker 8: federal government should send money to any political subdivision except states. Uh,
1:18:29
Speaker 8: And you know, it's a vital lifeline. We don't really
1:18:33
Speaker 8: have an easy way to operate today, like, for example,
1:18:35
Speaker 8: fire departments need direct funding from the federal government to
1:18:38
Speaker 8: really hit break even if you've got to. There's just
1:18:42
Speaker 8: so many programs that are for fire for example, These
1:18:45
Speaker 8: are essential and they're they're not partisan. We want them
1:18:47
Speaker 8: to go there. If you look at how this is broken,
1:18:50
Speaker 8: it's just you put lots of tentacles to every political
1:18:54
Speaker 8: subdivision and it grows the power of the federal government.
1:18:58
Speaker 8: They're dependent on the money, and they're dependent on the policies.
1:19:01
Speaker 8: And if you sent the same money to the state,
1:19:03
Speaker 8: the state would then send it differently, and it would
1:19:06
Speaker 8: increase the power of the states and decrease the role
1:19:08
Speaker 8: of the federal government. But we don't have the votes
1:19:10
Speaker 8: for that kind of structural shift right now.
1:19:12
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, judgment Paul Atonata predicted it yesterday. You said,
1:19:15
Speaker 1: these tariffs that Donald Trump engage in our taxes, he
1:19:18
Speaker 1: does not have the power to levy taxes, just boiling
1:19:21
Speaker 1: down his general points. That appears to be the way
1:19:23
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court perceived this as well. That the Emergency
1:19:25
Speaker 1: and Economic Powers Act in nineteen seventy seven, you can
1:19:28
Speaker 1: declare an emergency. Yeah, but we're not in an emergency.
1:19:31
Speaker 1: This wasn't sudden and out of nowhere. That this trade
1:19:34
Speaker 1: problem has been building and has existed for well for
1:19:37
Speaker 1: one hundred years plus. So you can't declare an emergency
1:19:40
Speaker 1: for something that's been out in the open. If that's
1:19:42
Speaker 1: the direction they go and they declare these tariffs unlawful,
1:19:45
Speaker 1: what's going to happen? I mean, I guess I'm wondering.
1:19:48
Speaker 1: One of the options is Congress retroactively ratifying them. But
1:19:53
Speaker 1: since we're in the middle of a shutdown, I can't
1:19:55
Speaker 1: really see the Democrats actually giving into Donald Trump on
1:19:58
Speaker 1: literally anything, so that that's unlikely to happen. How do
1:20:01
Speaker 1: you see this unfolding and being unpackaged.
1:20:04
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't see any way the Democrats give the
1:20:06
Speaker 8: votes to give President Trump the discretion to do a
1:20:09
Speaker 8: thing like one of the no brainers that the Senate
1:20:12
Speaker 8: Democrats rejected. We didn't get a vote on it in
1:20:14
Speaker 8: the House yet, but it was if people are essential
1:20:17
Speaker 8: enough to be at work, like air traffic controllers or military,
1:20:20
Speaker 8: you know, prison guards, whatever, then there the payroll clerk
1:20:25
Speaker 8: is essential to so at least be the people that
1:20:28
Speaker 8: are working right now. And so they're like, no, no,
1:20:31
Speaker 8: that gives discretion as the president Trump has to see
1:20:33
Speaker 8: who's working and so he can just leave people not
1:20:36
Speaker 8: at work, and so we can't do that. And so
1:20:39
Speaker 8: I don't see on tariff's Democrats giving the votes for
1:20:42
Speaker 8: that because it would allow President Trump to make a decision.
1:20:46
Speaker 8: But that's what he was elected to do, is make decisions.
1:20:48
Speaker 8: And look, we didn't have free trade before Donald Trump
1:20:50
Speaker 8: was president. We still don't have free trade, but we
1:20:53
Speaker 8: moved in that direction, and the tariffs were leveraged to
1:20:56
Speaker 8: do that. And look, I won't say it's not unanticipated
1:21:00
Speaker 8: that this would happen. I introduced a bill called the
1:21:02
Speaker 8: Global Trade Accountability Act if this eventuality should get here
1:21:06
Speaker 8: or whatever. The president is kind of reached a point
1:21:08
Speaker 8: saying yeah, we're pretty content with our trade negotiations. And
1:21:12
Speaker 8: it allows the president to change terms with anybody for
1:21:15
Speaker 8: up to ninety days at a time, and it doesn't
1:21:18
Speaker 8: say you have to change them up or down, but
1:21:20
Speaker 8: you just have to change them within ninety days, and
1:21:22
Speaker 8: then Congress votes on them, and the goal would be
1:21:25
Speaker 8: country by country or group of countries by group of countries.
1:21:28
Speaker 8: Then once you've got some sort of deal locked in,
1:21:30
Speaker 8: then Congress votes and you lock them in and now
1:21:32
Speaker 8: you've got some level of certainty. But any future president,
1:21:36
Speaker 8: they could come in and change tariffs or up to
1:21:38
Speaker 8: ninety days at a time, and you could say, hey,
1:21:41
Speaker 8: we're going to put a ten percent tariff, and ninety
1:21:44
Speaker 8: days is coming. The goal would be to use that
1:21:46
Speaker 8: as leverage to say, look, we can either go up
1:21:48
Speaker 8: or down, but we can't stay at ten percent.
1:21:50
Speaker 1: Well, I guess I'll have to ask the fundamental question
1:21:52
Speaker 1: the trade agreements that he was able to successfully negotiate
1:21:55
Speaker 1: had he gone out into the world. Sam's a power
1:21:58
Speaker 1: to impose tariff's, but under his power over foreign policy
1:22:02
Speaker 1: negotiated trade agreements with say, some the Chinese or the Japanese,
1:22:07
Speaker 1: whoever it happens to be. He could do that on
1:22:09
Speaker 1: his own. The power that gave him to negotiate the
1:22:12
Speaker 1: trade agreements he's locked in so far came from the tariffs.
1:22:15
Speaker 1: So is the original sin of his tariff wielding increases
1:22:19
Speaker 1: that led to a trade agreement? Does that negate the
1:22:21
Speaker 1: trade agreement? I suppose that's a legitimate question to ask.
1:22:25
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think this would just be the dumbest self
1:22:27
Speaker 8: inflicted moment. Yeah, that the Supreme Court could deal to
1:22:30
Speaker 8: our country. You know, could we do this a little differently? Sure? Maybe,
1:22:34
Speaker 8: but that's for Congress and the President to decide. If
1:22:37
Speaker 8: Congress wanted to claim that power, we could pass a bill,
1:22:41
Speaker 8: but we haven't. And Okay, you could say, well, there's
1:22:43
Speaker 8: a standoff between Congress and the president and the court
1:22:47
Speaker 8: needs to decide. Okay, maybe that would be the case,
1:22:50
Speaker 8: but the Congress hasn't said we're going to reclaim this
1:22:53
Speaker 8: power from the president. You know, there's people that have
1:22:56
Speaker 8: said we should, but generally that's Democrats. It's part of
1:23:00
Speaker 8: party line fight, with the exception of you know, three
1:23:05
Speaker 8: or four people in the Senate. Beyond that, it's like, yeah,
1:23:08
Speaker 8: we want the president to have the power to do
1:23:10
Speaker 8: this negotiation. And I forget which justice it was. I
1:23:13
Speaker 8: think it's either Kavanaugh or Robberts who said, look, so
1:23:16
Speaker 8: let me get this straight. Under the law, as you stated,
1:23:19
Speaker 8: the president could completely cut off trade, can do a
1:23:23
Speaker 8: full embargo for every country in the world. Right, Isn't
1:23:28
Speaker 8: it seemed crazy that he could do that extreme of
1:23:32
Speaker 8: a measure, but he couldn't put a one percent tarify
1:23:36
Speaker 8: And that was the That was the question, and I
1:23:39
Speaker 8: think as they contemplate this that might resonate. And the
1:23:41
Speaker 8: other part is just if you look at the effect
1:23:44
Speaker 8: of what the work has been done in this administration
1:23:47
Speaker 8: and frankly the last it would completely gut you know,
1:23:51
Speaker 8: this administration's work in foreign policy, which is very clearly
1:23:56
Speaker 8: the president's realm.
1:23:57
Speaker 1: That clearly is well, I suppose Congress is still in recess.
1:24:03
Speaker 1: You guys, have Kevin been called back to work yet,
1:24:04
Speaker 1: have you?
1:24:06
Speaker 2: Yeah?
1:24:06
Speaker 8: I mean not for a formal session. So most of us,
1:24:10
Speaker 8: I don't know about everybody, but you know I've been back,
1:24:13
Speaker 8: you know, not every week, but most weeks I end
1:24:15
Speaker 8: up going back for a few days. Yeah I was there.
1:24:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not suggesting for a minute you're not doing
1:24:19
Speaker 1: work or that work is not getting done. But since
1:24:21
Speaker 1: you haven't been formally called back, you can't vote on say, oh,
1:24:23
Speaker 1: I don't know released in the Epstein files. People seem
1:24:26
Speaker 1: to think that that's the basis for the closure right now,
1:24:28
Speaker 1: and I just want to get that out.
1:24:29
Speaker 2: In the air. Yeah.
1:24:31
Speaker 8: No, Look, you know, my good friend and Kylie Thomas
1:24:34
Speaker 8: Massey's get a discharged edition.
1:24:37
Speaker 4: It will be ripe.
1:24:38
Speaker 8: And I think, look at they're going to get the signatures.
1:24:40
Speaker 8: It'll come to the House for the votes. It'll have
1:24:42
Speaker 8: the votes. But the real problem is isn't whether we
1:24:46
Speaker 8: get another report or another set of files, or another
1:24:48
Speaker 8: hearing or whatever. The real question is when is somebody
1:24:52
Speaker 8: going to jail? And that's the question I want. One
1:24:55
Speaker 8: of the hearings that didn't happen because we weren't in session.
1:24:58
Speaker 8: Is Pam Bondy coming before for Congress and saying, okay,
1:25:03
Speaker 8: explain yourself. You hand out binders to the press. You
1:25:06
Speaker 8: say there's lots of there there. You imply that there's
1:25:09
Speaker 8: going to be these trials. And then next thing, you
1:25:13
Speaker 8: and President Trump are saying there's nothing there, and you're like, well,
1:25:17
Speaker 8: please show us the nothing, because you with the binders
1:25:20
Speaker 8: full of blank pages.
1:25:21
Speaker 4: I mean, the public needs to know that.
1:25:24
Speaker 8: And I think at some level that's a valid thing. Well, okay,
1:25:28
Speaker 8: since you're not explaining, we're going to call the question.
1:25:30
Speaker 8: Show us the stuff.
1:25:31
Speaker 1: It invites conspiracy theories and invites thoughts and comments, and
1:25:35
Speaker 1: you know, you can clear the air, release the dam files,
1:25:37
Speaker 1: and let's move on with our lives. You know, maybe
1:25:39
Speaker 1: there is nothing there and we can all say, oops,
1:25:41
Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't have drawn conclusions. But all those
1:25:43
Speaker 1: conclusions are being drawn because of the craziness surrounding the
1:25:47
Speaker 1: fact that we haven't seen him yet. Congressman Warren Davidson,
1:25:50
Speaker 1: appreciate what you're doing for the American people, and I
1:25:52
Speaker 1: know you're hard at work in spy to the recess,
1:25:54
Speaker 1: but I'll let you go to go back to the
1:25:56
Speaker 1: hard work you're doing, and I invite you here on
1:25:58
Speaker 1: the fifty five case Morning Sha anytime you want to talk.
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Speaker 8: Oh, he's an honor of brain. God bless you and
1:26:03
Speaker 8: your listeners.
1:26:03
Speaker 1: Take care of my friend. Seven point thirty right now
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Speaker 1: vide k. Feel like I'm in the five o'clock hours,
1:26:07
Speaker 1: just waking up. Sorry, world's an imperfect place. Brian Thomas
1:26:11
Speaker 1: is an imperfect human being. Five one three, seven four
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Speaker 1: and I used all the time up in this segment
1:26:19
Speaker 1: of Congressman Warren Davidson, au I suggest that was the
1:26:23
Speaker 1: right way to go. So I don't have time for
1:26:25
Speaker 1: local stories except to remind you. Thank you. Joe Strecker
1:26:28
Speaker 1: pointing out the Cincinni Inquirer's map. You can see it
1:26:31
Speaker 1: for yourself. God to Cincinnati dot com. That's the Inquirer's website.
1:26:35
Speaker 1: See if your neighborhood voted for Bowman or parvol in
1:26:38
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati mayor's race headline from an article by Scott Wartman.
1:26:44
Speaker 1: And Joe drew the parallel here because yesterday eight pm
1:26:48
Speaker 1: a man was shot in the back in the head
1:26:50
Speaker 1: right there in South Fairmont eight pm. So keen interest,
1:26:55
Speaker 1: Joe turned to the map of how your neighborhood voted
1:26:57
Speaker 1: for mayor and look lo and behold in spite of
1:27:00
Speaker 1: the crime problem being one of the issues obviously for
1:27:04
Speaker 1: the election on Tuesday. Maybe not as prominent as you
1:27:07
Speaker 1: or I thought it would be, but South Fairmont Court
1:27:10
Speaker 1: of the color chart voted seventy one to eighty four
1:27:12
Speaker 1: percent AFT tab Provoll. And I would think even more
1:27:17
Speaker 1: profoundly comical on this is the idea that Hyde Park
1:27:20
Speaker 1: in the light blue segment i'll be apparently voted fifty
1:27:23
Speaker 1: to seventy percent for aftab Provoll in spite of AFTABS
1:27:27
Speaker 1: ignoring them in that real estate development thing. Same thing
1:27:31
Speaker 1: with bond Hill and other neighborhood identified as being ignored
1:27:34
Speaker 1: by the residents of bond Hill. Aftab Parvoll did and
1:27:37
Speaker 1: moved it forward with his plans for the community in
1:27:39
Speaker 1: spite of the community outrage. Bond Hill eighty five to
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent aftab Provoll. Okay seven thirty six. If
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Speaker 1: you five caresee he talks station, feel free to give
1:27:54
Speaker 1: me a call. Love to hear from you. And I'd
1:27:57
Speaker 1: like you to call Peter Shabria Color Williams seven Hills
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Speaker 1: in his real Estate team. If you want the best
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Speaker 1: station five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five eight
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1:28:08
Speaker 1: what the Polatan has said about the can the President
1:28:10
Speaker 1: tax you? Of course he anticipated, I believe and fairly accurately.
1:28:14
Speaker 1: What the Supreme Court was all about yesterday doesn't look
1:28:17
Speaker 1: good for the Trump tariffs from a legal perspective, I
1:28:20
Speaker 1: get all day long where Judge the Polatana came from
1:28:23
Speaker 1: and where the Supreme Court appears to be going. It's
1:28:25
Speaker 1: just going to be somewhat of a Charlie Fox trot
1:28:28
Speaker 1: unwindening all of this if in fact, they deemed Trump's
1:28:32
Speaker 1: emergency declaration well incompatible with the statute under with he
1:28:38
Speaker 1: he's relying to well advance these tariffs. So keep your
1:28:42
Speaker 1: popcorn out on that they're fast tracking that no one
1:28:44
Speaker 1: really expects. You're gonna have to wait around un till
1:28:46
Speaker 1: June of next year to get the opinion. Given how
1:28:50
Speaker 1: I don't want to use the word gray, but just
1:28:52
Speaker 1: given the circumstances surrounding the tariffs and the urgency that
1:28:55
Speaker 1: they need to be addressed, so let's go to the phone.
1:28:57
Speaker 1: See what Bobby's got this morning, Bobby, Happy Thursday. Hey,
1:29:00
Speaker 1: welcome to the show.
1:29:02
Speaker 11: Happy Thursday, my friend, Faith, flag and family. When you
1:29:05
Speaker 11: keep those, you're always going to have freedom.
1:29:07
Speaker 1: Got to have those firearms, oh, Bobby, Well that.
1:29:11
Speaker 11: Protects the first and the third Amendments. Yes, sir, we're
1:29:14
Speaker 11: always going to use those.
1:29:15
Speaker 7: No matter what.
1:29:16
Speaker 11: So ay seventy two hour window, looking looking forward. We
1:29:21
Speaker 11: already have shooting this morning, but we're still going to
1:29:24
Speaker 11: handicap the whole weekend at four and a half.
1:29:27
Speaker 1: So are they accepting murder odds on sports sportsbook yet, Bobby.
1:29:36
Speaker 11: Nobody's coming to that sometime soon.
1:29:39
Speaker 1: Well, you can bet on whether a catcher in a
1:29:41
Speaker 1: baseball game is going to scratch his crotch. I think
1:29:43
Speaker 1: you'd be able to, you know, to make a bet
1:29:45
Speaker 1: on how many murders are going to be committed in
1:29:46
Speaker 1: any given jurisdiction over the weekend.
1:29:50
Speaker 11: Hey, money's getting cut all beautiful weather, just prime time
1:29:56
Speaker 11: for problems on the streets.
1:29:58
Speaker 1: Be careful, appreciate the call, Bobby. You hang in there,
1:30:01
Speaker 1: my friend. Have a wonderful day. I feel free to
1:30:05
Speaker 1: call yourself if you like. Yeah, I guess And I'm
1:30:08
Speaker 1: going to give who is it? Brian? Brian made a
1:30:12
Speaker 1: post on my Facebook post, so a different Brian, since
1:30:15
Speaker 1: you ever thought about getting a moving company as a
1:30:17
Speaker 1: show sponsor. Timing seems pretty good right now. It's kind
1:30:20
Speaker 1: of predicated or springing from a common I made yesterday
1:30:22
Speaker 1: about my wife wanting to move, and she selected Butler County,
1:30:25
Speaker 1: although I think Claremont Warren and others also represent ideal possibilities.
1:30:31
Speaker 1: Not ready to pull that trigger yet, but she's kind
1:30:37
Speaker 1: of really strongly leading in that direction. And then I
1:30:41
Speaker 1: pivoted over well because of what's going on in the
1:30:43
Speaker 1: city and of course Hamilton County itself, but I thought
1:30:47
Speaker 1: that in the context of New York City and mom
1:30:49
Speaker 1: Dommy's big plans and the fact that they've lost so
1:30:51
Speaker 1: many people already, and his plans are predicated on taxes
1:30:55
Speaker 1: that he may not even be able to put in
1:30:57
Speaker 1: place because it's going to require state cooperation. The Governor
1:31:01
Speaker 1: Hock will probably not inclined to piss off the entire
1:31:04
Speaker 1: state of New York. So Mom, Donni can give you
1:31:06
Speaker 1: free stuff and things. But New York has had two
1:31:11
Speaker 1: million more residents leave the state than entering, and Similarly,
1:31:17
Speaker 1: New Jersey Illinois also also saw five hundred thousand more
1:31:20
Speaker 1: residents leave their state for other states. That's all just
1:31:23
Speaker 1: within the past ten years. And of course we all
1:31:26
Speaker 1: know COVID revealed it to everyone's eyes. If you have
1:31:28
Speaker 1: the freedom to go and you can tele commute, you're
1:31:30
Speaker 1: gonna leave the places where you were overregulated and over
1:31:33
Speaker 1: taxed and go to places that offer you a well
1:31:36
Speaker 1: resounding amount of freedom. By way of comparison, Texas, for example,
1:31:41
Speaker 1: comes to mind, Florida comes to mind. They're already doing
1:31:43
Speaker 1: advertising in Florida for the residents of New York City.
1:31:45
Speaker 1: Come on in the water's fine, you're gonna love it here.
1:31:48
Speaker 1: So you have statistics demonstrating this, and of course, the
1:31:52
Speaker 1: only people that are replenishing the population for all these
1:31:55
Speaker 1: Americans who have left for better climbs are of course,
1:31:58
Speaker 1: the immigrant population. And the Democrats are all wigged out.
1:32:01
Speaker 1: They hate Donald Trump for removing the most notably the
1:32:04
Speaker 1: worst of the worst of the immigrant population, because of course,
1:32:08
Speaker 1: they got a census coming up, legal or illegal. If
1:32:12
Speaker 1: they're in your community, they're going to be counted toward
1:32:14
Speaker 1: the twenty thirty census not that far away. Real time,
1:32:19
Speaker 1: and of course that's going to determine the outcome of
1:32:21
Speaker 1: the in the House of Representatives.
1:32:25
Speaker 2: So.
1:32:27
Speaker 1: Huge nefarious reality behind that, and then comes back to that.
1:32:33
Speaker 7: Not bad.
1:32:34
Speaker 1: I read this morning the civil literacy and the fact
1:32:36
Speaker 1: that we Americans have failed in teaching the core basic
1:32:42
Speaker 1: civics to our own children, the founding principles that all
1:32:49
Speaker 1: children should know, the reason why our country was founded
1:32:52
Speaker 1: in the first place, why there was an American revolution
1:32:54
Speaker 1: in the first place, in the federalist papers and the
1:32:57
Speaker 1: concepts behind the Bill of Rights and our constant you
1:33:01
Speaker 1: get rid of all the philosophy behind that, you're left
1:33:04
Speaker 1: with really nothing to hang your hat on. And then,
1:33:06
Speaker 1: of course add to that a massive influx of people
1:33:10
Speaker 1: from different lands, and whether they're here for great reasons
1:33:14
Speaker 1: or terrible reasons, whether they want, you know, to latch
1:33:16
Speaker 1: themselves up to the umbilical court of our social welfare
1:33:19
Speaker 1: safety net, or they came here to get a job
1:33:21
Speaker 1: and work hard and participate. They lack civic literacy insofar
1:33:29
Speaker 1: as American civics are concerned. And that's a real problem
1:33:33
Speaker 1: because if you don't have people who are married to
1:33:35
Speaker 1: our concept, the concept of freedom and what we stood
1:33:38
Speaker 1: for and the reasons our country was formed. You have
1:33:41
Speaker 1: a nation full of people who really don't understand why
1:33:44
Speaker 1: they're even here except gee, I'm getting free stuff and things,
1:33:46
Speaker 1: or this is a better place to be than where
1:33:48
Speaker 1: I came from. And I suppose looking at Mandami's policies,
1:33:56
Speaker 1: pivoting back over that two million out migrations number, I
1:34:00
Speaker 1: think you can expect that to get a lot bigger,
1:34:05
Speaker 1: a whole lot bigger, at least insofar as the people
1:34:08
Speaker 1: who actually contribute to the tax base in New York
1:34:11
Speaker 1: City specifically, but perhaps even the entire state of New
1:34:16
Speaker 1: York seven forty seven. Right now, feel free to get
1:34:18
Speaker 1: a call. Got a couple of figures to go along
1:34:19
Speaker 1: with that before we get two, set me talk station
1:34:29
Speaker 1: seven fifty one at fifty five KRC detalk station. Yeah,
1:34:33
Speaker 1: running the numbers. I'll give credit to the Wall Street
1:34:35
Speaker 1: Journal for letting everybody know how much this is going
1:34:37
Speaker 1: to run. So, if you're a wealthy person in New York,
1:34:41
Speaker 1: raise the highest state corporate tax rate from up to
1:34:44
Speaker 1: eleven and a half percent from current seven point twenty five,
1:34:47
Speaker 1: they're expected to generate five billion dollars off of that.
1:34:50
Speaker 1: Now that needs state lawmaker approval. So he's got to
1:34:53
Speaker 1: deal with the governor Hokal on that. So maybe he'll
1:34:55
Speaker 1: have five billion to work with. Maybe not. Remember all
1:34:58
Speaker 1: that money goes into the state coffer. How much will
1:35:00
Speaker 1: New York City be allocated from that? Will they get
1:35:03
Speaker 1: all of it? You'll have to answer to the other
1:35:04
Speaker 1: residents of the state of New York when you increase
1:35:07
Speaker 1: the tax, and then you have to look to see
1:35:08
Speaker 1: if anybody's going to hang around and let themselves be
1:35:11
Speaker 1: subjected to that kind of tax rate. It adds up,
1:35:16
Speaker 1: it really does. In New York. Then you got a
1:35:19
Speaker 1: millionaire's tax on that. So if you are making a
1:35:21
Speaker 1: million dollars or more, and there are a lot of
1:35:22
Speaker 1: people that make more than a million dollars in New York,
1:35:24
Speaker 1: because you practically have to make a million dollars a
1:35:25
Speaker 1: year to even afford to live there at all. So
1:35:29
Speaker 1: they want to bump that up. A fifty one percent
1:35:31
Speaker 1: increase on that, taking it up from three point eight
1:35:33
Speaker 1: eight to five point eight eight, expected to generate four
1:35:36
Speaker 1: billion dollars in revenue. See make the state personal income
1:35:46
Speaker 1: tax rate the highest in the country. Universal childcare is
1:35:50
Speaker 1: going to come in at a cost of between depending
1:35:53
Speaker 1: on who you listen to, three point five and nine
1:35:55
Speaker 1: point five billion dollars annually, which I think consumes the
1:35:58
Speaker 1: vast majority of the tax. Is that he's proposing the
1:36:01
Speaker 1: increase which again are going to go to the state
1:36:04
Speaker 1: and not necessarily all new to New York's benefits. So
1:36:06
Speaker 1: you got a numbers game that's starting to add up.
1:36:08
Speaker 1: Do you know what the cost of this ridiculous universal
1:36:12
Speaker 1: child program where it's designed to indoctrinate your kids from
1:36:15
Speaker 1: six weeks old through fifth grade when they then enter
1:36:19
Speaker 1: the K through twelve education system, No, not tree Fitty Joe,
1:36:25
Speaker 1: twenty six thousand dollars per child described as up forty
1:36:29
Speaker 1: three percent since twenty nineteen. That number will not remain
1:36:33
Speaker 1: at that level, starting to go up. And where are
1:36:38
Speaker 1: all the employees going to come from that are now
1:36:40
Speaker 1: going to be responsible for six week olds up through
1:36:43
Speaker 1: five years old? I doubt there are enough daycare facilities
1:36:46
Speaker 1: in New York to cover that nut. And who in
1:36:49
Speaker 1: this world would turn a six week old baby over
1:36:51
Speaker 1: to a total stranger to raise during those critical bonding times.
1:36:55
Speaker 1: That's a question for you to deal with and wrestle
1:36:57
Speaker 1: with morally and ethically rent stabilization estimated cost for ten
1:37:03
Speaker 1: years seven billion dollars. He's planning on getting a seventy
1:37:07
Speaker 1: billion dollar municipal bond debt, which we'll have to pay
1:37:11
Speaker 1: interest on to fund the construction of two hundred thousand
1:37:19
Speaker 1: rent stabilized units. The billion dollar borrowing plan exceeds the
1:37:25
Speaker 1: city's current but a debt limit, and he'll need cooperation,
1:37:31
Speaker 1: yes again from the governor, to raise the debt limit.
1:37:34
Speaker 1: So there already a financial catastrophe, and he wants to
1:37:37
Speaker 1: exacerbate it. And I just kind of scratch my head
1:37:39
Speaker 1: and wonder, g what's gonna happen in New York's bond rating.
1:37:43
Speaker 1: Because if you're borrowing this kind of money, it does
1:37:45
Speaker 1: come at a cost, the interest costs. And let's see
1:37:52
Speaker 1: fast and free buses described as costing eight hundred million
1:37:56
Speaker 1: dollars annually unfact on that one, sure and make it. Fore,
1:38:01
Speaker 1: some are struggling with the concept of homeless people living
1:38:04
Speaker 1: on the buses and the obviously those that don't have
1:38:07
Speaker 1: the money are going to be riding the buses. Fine,
1:38:09
Speaker 1: that's the point, right, we need to help all those
1:38:11
Speaker 1: folks who can't afford the nominal fee to ride the bus.
1:38:13
Speaker 1: But as the journal points out, the city has historically
1:38:16
Speaker 1: used the bus and subway affares as a source of
1:38:19
Speaker 1: repayment for the bonds sold to investors to build and
1:38:22
Speaker 1: fix the transit system, which of course raises questions about
1:38:26
Speaker 1: what is going to replace the bus fares as a
1:38:28
Speaker 1: stable repayment source, and the pesky problem that the bondholders
1:38:33
Speaker 1: would need to consent to changing the source of repayment. Yeah,
1:38:37
Speaker 1: you can say you're going to do stuff in things,
1:38:39
Speaker 1: and you can make grandiose promises on the campaign trail,
1:38:43
Speaker 1: it all comes at a real cost, and obviously these
1:38:46
Speaker 1: are multiple layers of complications. So I'm interested, very interested
1:38:52
Speaker 1: in seeing what the Governor of New York decides by
1:38:54
Speaker 1: way of approval or disapproval of these grandiose policies. Seven
1:38:58
Speaker 1: fifty six have Sunshine laws And Kurt Hartman's gonna explain
1:39:02
Speaker 1: a little bit about him for the Empower Youth seminar
1:39:04
Speaker 1: coming up tonight at seven pm. Keegan Corcoran fifty five
1:39:07
Speaker 1: krses Wine Samolier. He is gonna be giving us information
1:39:12
Speaker 1: on the perfect wine pairing after you lose the election.
1:39:15
Speaker 1: That'll be an eight thirty stick around.
1:39:17
Speaker 5: For all of that.
1:39:18
Speaker 1: Today's stop it eight five right now. If you have
1:39:23
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1:39:27
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1:39:30
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1:39:33
Speaker 1: Thanks to Dan Reagan old fram USA, formerly owner and
1:39:36
Speaker 1: originator of the Empower Youth Seminar series as always tonight
1:39:40
Speaker 1: in addition to an amazing seminar on It's kind of
1:39:45
Speaker 1: like astronomy Tour of the Universe. You are here, you
1:39:48
Speaker 1: gotta be at the Empower Use Seminars Studios three hundred
1:39:51
Speaker 1: Great Oaks Drive to check this one out. You're gonna
1:39:53
Speaker 1: get a tour of the entire universe. You stop at
1:39:55
Speaker 1: the Moon, you go out and you inspect all the
1:39:57
Speaker 1: planets and apparently like a light speed simulation going out
1:40:00
Speaker 1: to Intertellar space to visit the universe and all the
1:40:03
Speaker 1: galaxies and just appreciate the insanity of how big the
1:40:06
Speaker 1: universe is. That should be an amazing class with Dan
1:40:10
Speaker 1: regas he's one of the renowned experts on such matters.
1:40:13
Speaker 1: But you're also going to get Kurt Hartman. I love
1:40:15
Speaker 1: Kurt Hartman and everything he does attorney The Finny Law
1:40:18
Speaker 1: firm concentrates on commercial and constitutional litigation, as well as
1:40:21
Speaker 1: public interest litigation. You may have heard his name come
1:40:24
Speaker 1: up in connection with local government issues. Welcome back, Kurt Hartman.
1:40:28
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on the program again. It's great
1:40:29
Speaker 1: to hear from you, Sir Brian.
1:40:31
Speaker 7: Always great to be with you.
1:40:33
Speaker 1: Sunshine Laws and according to the materials, and I'm anxious
1:40:36
Speaker 1: for you to explain to my listeners at least a
1:40:37
Speaker 1: little insight into what you're gonna be talking about tonight.
1:40:39
Speaker 1: They are under attack and it might be more difficult
1:40:42
Speaker 1: for the general public to get records. There are laws
1:40:46
Speaker 1: on the books. The problem is it seems to be
1:40:48
Speaker 1: more theory versus practice. Let me throw this at you, Kurt.
1:40:52
Speaker 1: I can issue a Freedom of Information Act request. I
1:40:54
Speaker 1: can issue a request for government documents pursuing to the
1:40:57
Speaker 1: laws you're going to be talking about, the Sunshine Laws.
1:41:00
Speaker 1: Often those responsible for producing them ignore you, uh, and
1:41:04
Speaker 1: it goes by the wayside. You wait weeks and months
1:41:06
Speaker 1: they have passed the deadline for which to respond. Then
1:41:09
Speaker 1: it seems to me you almost have to have a
1:41:10
Speaker 1: bank roll to pay lawyers to go to court. To
1:41:12
Speaker 1: enforce a law that's on the books that tells them
1:41:15
Speaker 1: they have the obligation to produce the stuff in the
1:41:16
Speaker 1: first place. It's gonna get worse.
1:41:19
Speaker 9: It's gonna get worse, yes, and has gotten worse, uh,
1:41:23
Speaker 9: by both a little bit because of the General Assembly's
1:41:28
Speaker 9: amendments to the Public Records Act, as well as a
1:41:31
Speaker 9: few decisions from the Ohouse Supreme Court, you know, instead
1:41:35
Speaker 9: of you know, the Sunshine laws of their openness transparency.
1:41:39
Speaker 2: Uh.
1:41:39
Speaker 9: You know, foundation principle is that your public records are
1:41:43
Speaker 9: the people's records, Yeah, and that they belong to the people,
1:41:45
Speaker 9: and that the public officials are simply trustees or custodians
1:41:49
Speaker 9: of them for the benefit of the public. But because
1:41:52
Speaker 9: it's a matter of state law, the General Assembly can
1:41:54
Speaker 9: put you know, and they constantly, it seems like each
1:41:57
Speaker 9: General is something putting more and more exemptions or hurdles
1:42:00
Speaker 9: or obstacles, if you will, that favor of the government
1:42:04
Speaker 9: and undermine transparency. You just feel the things, and you know,
1:42:09
Speaker 9: we're just go talk briefly about it tonight as well,
1:42:11
Speaker 9: because I think this astronomy thing has really got to
1:42:14
Speaker 9: be the neat part about it.
1:42:15
Speaker 7: About my presentation.
1:42:17
Speaker 9: So to give you an example, I think one of
1:42:21
Speaker 9: the things I'm really really disappointed in is just earlier
1:42:25
Speaker 9: this year they amended to state the Public Records Act
1:42:28
Speaker 9: with respect to getting your videos from police officers. Body
1:42:32
Speaker 9: cameras or cruiser videos used to be used to be
1:42:36
Speaker 9: able to put in a request and say hey, I
1:42:38
Speaker 9: want to get the body camera for this incident or
1:42:40
Speaker 9: that incident. Right, yeah, you can still get them, but
1:42:45
Speaker 9: now they have said, you know what a local law
1:42:47
Speaker 9: enforcement can authorize is authorized to charge you up to
1:42:52
Speaker 9: seven hundred and fifty dollars for the time and expense
1:42:54
Speaker 9: it takes to prepare go.
1:42:57
Speaker 7: Through redact that video.
1:43:00
Speaker 9: And so you know, if the average person has an
1:43:02
Speaker 9: interaction with law enforcement and just says, hey I need
1:43:05
Speaker 9: to see the video, want that video of my that's
1:43:08
Speaker 9: stop with the police officers. The department can say, hey,
1:43:12
Speaker 9: before we do it, you got to pay us x
1:43:14
Speaker 9: dollars up to seven hundred and fifty that we think
1:43:17
Speaker 9: it's going to take to get.
1:43:19
Speaker 7: That video ready for you.
1:43:21
Speaker 9: So, for example, you know the infamous brawl downtown right right,
1:43:28
Speaker 9: you know there were body cameras. When the police finally responded,
1:43:33
Speaker 9: you put a request in and you know for that,
1:43:35
Speaker 9: it was like, hey, we want to charge you for it.
1:43:38
Speaker 1: We wait, is it real quickly?
1:43:41
Speaker 2: Right now?
1:43:41
Speaker 9: I did, And they did charge charge. They charged the
1:43:43
Speaker 9: news media when the news even the news media went
1:43:46
Speaker 9: in for it and they said, hey, in that case,
1:43:48
Speaker 9: they already charged them like twenty dollars plus or minus
1:43:51
Speaker 9: because they said, hey, we can do it pretty quickly.
1:43:54
Speaker 9: But again, it's this principle that hey, these are people's records.
1:44:00
Speaker 9: This is accountability, this is oversight.
1:44:03
Speaker 1: Kurt Hartman, let me ask you this. I am free
1:44:05
Speaker 1: as a citizen to go to the public records that
1:44:07
Speaker 1: are in the Clerk of Courts office. I can review
1:44:10
Speaker 1: them there. If I want a copy of them, I
1:44:12
Speaker 1: just pay to have a copy.
1:44:14
Speaker 2: May right.
1:44:14
Speaker 1: It's like the old Xerox stage put a diamond, you
1:44:16
Speaker 1: got a copy. But I can view them there. Why
1:44:19
Speaker 1: not just make the damn video available to the public
1:44:22
Speaker 1: at the police station or at some viewing area. They
1:44:24
Speaker 1: can look at it there and if they want to
1:44:25
Speaker 1: take a copy home with them, then let them. But
1:44:28
Speaker 1: more fundamentally, what's with the redaction thing? If this is
1:44:31
Speaker 1: a police officer in public doing the public servant's duty,
1:44:34
Speaker 1: why would I want a redacted video, and upon what
1:44:37
Speaker 1: basis would they take something out of it?
1:44:39
Speaker 9: Kurt Well, the reaction and usually what they do on
1:44:43
Speaker 9: the redactions of videos is they just blow a part
1:44:45
Speaker 9: of it. It may be somebody giving their social security
1:44:50
Speaker 9: Usually it's like a social security number. Okay, somebody gives you,
1:44:53
Speaker 9: I guess your name, your social security number, or they.
1:44:55
Speaker 7: Have the police monitor in the vehicles.
1:44:58
Speaker 9: You know, they're looking at that un on somebody license
1:45:01
Speaker 9: play or somebody's ID, and the video captures the information
1:45:05
Speaker 9: on the screen. So that's the predominance of it. So
1:45:07
Speaker 9: there may be a few statements that are made. There
1:45:09
Speaker 9: may be some confidential information that you want redactive. So
1:45:14
Speaker 9: it's not really that bad in terms of redacting the videos,
1:45:16
Speaker 9: but it's like, you know, the time to go track
1:45:19
Speaker 9: down the video, time to review it, the time to
1:45:21
Speaker 9: listen to it to make sure somebody doesn't tell tell
1:45:26
Speaker 9: a law enforcement Also, here's my social security number, go
1:45:29
Speaker 9: you go check me out. They can charge you now
1:45:31
Speaker 9: the time and their expense for preparing that. So you
1:45:36
Speaker 9: got you know, something like that, you know, and it's
1:45:40
Speaker 9: both complete.
1:45:41
Speaker 7: You know, the video is not only with.
1:45:42
Speaker 9: Law enforcement, but if you go to the prosecutors and
1:45:45
Speaker 9: say hey, I want that video. The prosecutors can also
1:45:48
Speaker 9: charge you for it. The other other interesting thing was
1:45:52
Speaker 9: they they the General Assembly put an edition in where
1:45:57
Speaker 9: they exempted or said hey, you can't get information of
1:46:01
Speaker 9: our communications members are communications with other members or staff.
1:46:07
Speaker 7: So when these.
1:46:07
Speaker 9: Legislators are saying, hey, dear colleague, please support this legislation,
1:46:11
Speaker 9: dear colleague, please do this or that, you can't get
1:46:14
Speaker 9: those in those correspondents. What until the General Assembly is
1:46:18
Speaker 9: no longer in session? What's the base thanks for going
1:46:22
Speaker 9: on while this information is being exchanged amongst members of
1:46:25
Speaker 9: the General Assembly. Nope, you can't see any of that.
1:46:28
Speaker 1: Well, it's at the point in time when you really
1:46:30
Speaker 1: critically need it before decisions are made. I don't want
1:46:33
Speaker 1: to review something after the fact, after they've already enacted
1:46:35
Speaker 1: some legislation or done done the work and it's all
1:46:37
Speaker 1: over with. The real time reporting seems to be necessary
1:46:40
Speaker 1: for the public goods, so we can help, you know,
1:46:42
Speaker 1: it will inform us and allow us to give an
1:46:44
Speaker 1: opportunity to or elected officials about which direction we want
1:46:47
Speaker 1: them to go.
1:46:48
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, especially when you think about the capital budget,
1:46:51
Speaker 9: the budget or the braking budget or the capital budget.
1:46:54
Speaker 9: You know, who's putting on who's advocating to put this
1:46:57
Speaker 9: line linelement of you know, a special deal or whatever.
1:47:01
Speaker 7: You know.
1:47:02
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can find out about it two years later,
1:47:04
Speaker 9: a year later after the General Assembly you know.
1:47:07
Speaker 7: Is no longer in session.
1:47:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh hey, we just found about about Operation Arctic
1:47:12
Speaker 1: Frosts that a parent was going on for a whole
1:47:14
Speaker 1: time under Trump administration, violating everybody's constitutional rights. But it
1:47:17
Speaker 1: takes time to get out the information. But what of
1:47:19
Speaker 1: the what is the motivation behind this cracking down on
1:47:22
Speaker 1: publicly available information? What's driving this? Because it's going the
1:47:26
Speaker 1: opposite direction, Kurt, from where I would want it to go,
1:47:28
Speaker 1: because I'm in favor of giving us everything that we want,
1:47:31
Speaker 1: since we're paying for all the work that they do
1:47:33
Speaker 1: and they're impacting our lives every day.
1:47:36
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just think I think it is more deference,
1:47:41
Speaker 9: you know, to to the government. That government, you know,
1:47:43
Speaker 9: and the government at the Prostitutors Association or you know,
1:47:48
Speaker 9: complain about all we're getting in in data with these
1:47:51
Speaker 9: public records requests. You're distracting quote unquote distracting us from
1:47:55
Speaker 9: doing our job. Well, part of their job is getting
1:47:59
Speaker 9: information to the public. And I think that developed this
1:48:04
Speaker 9: lack of appreciation. You know, then that is part of
1:48:08
Speaker 9: their job. And so and so the and the General Assembly,
1:48:13
Speaker 9: you know, reacts says, okay, fine, we'll help you here.
1:48:17
Speaker 9: You know, it's almost a death of a thousand cuts. Yes,
1:48:21
Speaker 9: you know, okay, this may not be a big thing.
1:48:23
Speaker 7: That may not be a big thing, you know.
1:48:25
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, another thing they except now are
1:48:28
Speaker 9: the work schedules, you know from what they call is
1:48:30
Speaker 9: what they call designated public workers, but essentially it's law
1:48:34
Speaker 9: enforcement officers, you know, et cetera. You know, and I'll
1:48:37
Speaker 9: tell you I've done requests before to say, hey, I'd
1:48:40
Speaker 9: like to see, you know, the schedule for who's on duty,
1:48:43
Speaker 9: you know, two weeks ago or five weeks ago.
1:48:46
Speaker 7: That's now exempt.
1:48:47
Speaker 9: You can't get the work schedules for law enforcement and
1:48:52
Speaker 9: so you know, I mean, I can understand a prospectively,
1:48:55
Speaker 9: you know something going forward, I don't want to see
1:48:57
Speaker 9: who's on duty next week.
1:49:00
Speaker 1: Right right right, And these trying times we live in
1:49:03
Speaker 1: the docsing the whole idea of having target law enforcement officers,
1:49:06
Speaker 1: specific ones perhaps targeted knowing where they're going to be
1:49:09
Speaker 1: and at what time. It's a little bit or well
1:49:11
Speaker 1: and creepy that that might be readily available, and I
1:49:13
Speaker 1: understand around the margins, but not a broad brush approach
1:49:17
Speaker 1: to this, just saying no, you cannot have that under
1:49:19
Speaker 1: any circumstances, and.
1:49:21
Speaker 9: You cannot have who was on duty four weeks ago.
1:49:25
Speaker 1: And yeah, that doesn't make any sense either, because that
1:49:27
Speaker 1: could be critical information.
1:49:28
Speaker 9: But again, it's this react I think it's reactionary to
1:49:31
Speaker 9: special interest within the government, you.
1:49:34
Speaker 7: Know, I mean, but if you think about it, and
1:49:36
Speaker 7: it's amazing.
1:49:37
Speaker 9: You know, there are all these lobbying type organizations, right yeah,
1:49:42
Speaker 9: and some of them are paid for by taxpayer dollars.
1:49:45
Speaker 7: You know, the Ohio Municipal League.
1:49:46
Speaker 9: The Ohio Taxpayer Association, Prosecutors Association. You know, they are
1:49:51
Speaker 9: all lobbying type groups up in Columbus that are formed
1:49:56
Speaker 9: and organized and consist of the government officials. And it's
1:49:59
Speaker 9: being paid for by are tax dollars. So you have
1:50:02
Speaker 9: tax dollars lobbing to undermine you know, the public interest
1:50:07
Speaker 9: and there and the general public we're paying, we're paying
1:50:09
Speaker 9: to be lobbying against. But you know, nobody pays to
1:50:12
Speaker 9: lobby for the individuals.
1:50:14
Speaker 1: Well, then there's the other component of kind of the
1:50:16
Speaker 1: springboard for our conversation on this. There are laws on
1:50:20
Speaker 1: the books which allow us to have these records. You're
1:50:22
Speaker 1: pointing that out. They're changing them to make it more
1:50:23
Speaker 1: difficult find But when they don't even comply with the
1:50:26
Speaker 1: law in the book in any form, and you got
1:50:27
Speaker 1: to go to court to get them to an issue
1:50:30
Speaker 1: there to to produce the documents you've asked for, they're
1:50:32
Speaker 1: inviting the public, the taxpayer dollars, to have to pay
1:50:35
Speaker 1: for litigation expenses on their side of the ledger because
1:50:38
Speaker 1: they refuse to do the job they're supposed to do
1:50:40
Speaker 1: it hand over the information. Shouldn't there be some sort
1:50:42
Speaker 1: of harsher harsher penalty for those who refuse. How do
1:50:46
Speaker 1: you how do you bring about compliance without litigation? Kurt?
1:50:51
Speaker 9: In a certain sense, you can't, you know. I mean, yeah,
1:50:54
Speaker 9: they've got public office, is what I'll slow wrong. I
1:50:56
Speaker 9: mean you talked about, you know, going down to the
1:50:58
Speaker 9: clerk of Court's office. Right, Hey, I want to go
1:51:00
Speaker 9: see a court record, I can just go down there,
1:51:02
Speaker 9: get to look at it, and if I want to copy,
1:51:04
Speaker 9: give me a copy.
1:51:05
Speaker 7: I've got a lawsuit over that case.
1:51:07
Speaker 9: I'm actually suing the Hamilton County Clerk of Courts because
1:51:10
Speaker 9: their office refused to provide and allow the inspection. Just
1:51:14
Speaker 9: somebody to go in and see a court case, you know,
1:51:18
Speaker 9: because and it dealt with the brawl. If you remember
1:51:21
Speaker 9: when the city of Cincinnati decided they wanted to you know,
1:51:25
Speaker 9: charge criminally you know the victim, the guy.
1:51:28
Speaker 1: The guy who got beaten up the Russian.
1:51:30
Speaker 9: Yeah right, the Russian go down, say hey, we want
1:51:34
Speaker 9: to see that filing. What did the city file? And
1:51:36
Speaker 9: the Clerk of Courts was no, we're not going to
1:51:38
Speaker 9: let you see it. There's a motion to seal that case.
1:51:40
Speaker 9: So until the judge decides. Well, whether about the judge
1:51:43
Speaker 9: decided to seal it or not didn't matter. We're there
1:51:46
Speaker 9: saying we want to inspect it. They said no, so
1:51:49
Speaker 9: we had to sue it. We're suing them over and
1:51:51
Speaker 9: they've got litigation going over that. There's something that's basically
1:51:54
Speaker 9: as a court record. And it's just this attitude, you know.
1:51:58
Speaker 9: And it's not a partisan that dude, I think you
1:52:00
Speaker 9: get it from both sides of the while.
1:52:04
Speaker 7: And so you know, you're right, the.
1:52:06
Speaker 9: Option is the negation The thing is, you know you
1:52:08
Speaker 9: talk about hiring attorneys, and you got to hire attorneys. Now,
1:52:10
Speaker 9: if you win the court, can you know, usually will
1:52:14
Speaker 9: will award you your attorney fees or at least some
1:52:17
Speaker 9: of your attorney fees. That seems to be the option
1:52:21
Speaker 9: they given. That's the only option you really have. I mean,
1:52:23
Speaker 9: you know, the concept of the philosophy is, you know,
1:52:26
Speaker 9: the remedy is elections. You know, if somebody is doing something,
1:52:30
Speaker 9: not performing their public office right or appropriate, the remedy
1:52:34
Speaker 9: is vote them out at the next election.
1:52:35
Speaker 7: But I hate to say, I mean, if Tuesday Todd.
1:52:38
Speaker 9: Is anything, it's like, you know, the people will just
1:52:41
Speaker 9: but you know, the majority of them, it appears in
1:52:44
Speaker 9: the city of Cincinnati will just follow follow sheep literally whatever.
1:52:48
Speaker 9: You know, it's the Democrats slate card.
1:52:50
Speaker 7: I'll just blindly voteed and this, you know.
1:52:53
Speaker 1: But on Tuesday, You're right, I understand that, understand that,
1:52:57
Speaker 1: and that quite often is the only remedy we were
1:52:59
Speaker 1: left with and by to the fact that it doesn't
1:53:00
Speaker 1: always work to our advantage. But the world keeps going on.
1:53:04
Speaker 1: Litigation continues. These issues can't wait for elections to resolve themselves.
1:53:09
Speaker 1: They have an obligation to produce information. You need it
1:53:12
Speaker 1: now as a part of maybe the defense of your
1:53:14
Speaker 1: client or some other issue in a civil litigation. Give
1:53:17
Speaker 1: us the damn information.
1:53:19
Speaker 9: No, and you you try it, but you know, there
1:53:22
Speaker 9: was one of the decisions. Chief Justice Kennedy said, you know,
1:53:24
Speaker 9: sometimes when you get the information is just as important
1:53:27
Speaker 9: as what the information is. But unfortunately, the next time
1:53:31
Speaker 9: I see the Chief Justice, I'm going to kind of
1:53:33
Speaker 9: you know, vendor air a little bit. You follow these
1:53:36
Speaker 9: lawsuits at the Supreme Court to get these records, it
1:53:38
Speaker 9: takes them a year to issue.
1:53:39
Speaker 1: Decision exactly exactly, you know, and that doesn't do.
1:53:44
Speaker 7: Any good for anybody either.
1:53:45
Speaker 2: You know.
1:53:46
Speaker 9: It just seems the decisions coming out from the court
1:53:48
Speaker 9: taking longer than they have historically and definitely longer than
1:53:53
Speaker 9: they should. And so, yeah, you get your victory at
1:53:56
Speaker 9: the end of the day, you get your victory a
1:53:57
Speaker 9: year from now saying yeah, you're in title to those records.
1:54:02
Speaker 9: But then but then you turn around the next stage,
1:54:06
Speaker 9: similar issue arises. The governments they know they can slow
1:54:10
Speaker 9: roll you on public records.
1:54:12
Speaker 1: Happens time and time.
1:54:13
Speaker 2: I call that a lot.
1:54:14
Speaker 9: With the City of Sepia's you know, I've got numerous
1:54:16
Speaker 9: requests into the City of Cincinnati on behalf of clients.
1:54:20
Speaker 9: City slow rolls it we're looking at.
1:54:23
Speaker 7: We've got to review it. I mean, even some basic records.
1:54:27
Speaker 1: Well, this is this is not just a local or
1:54:29
Speaker 1: stay phenomenon. This happens all the time in the federal
1:54:31
Speaker 1: government level, perhaps even more. I've had Congressman Weinstrop in
1:54:34
Speaker 1: here talking to you know, he's in he's in some
1:54:37
Speaker 1: meeting or hearing about some issue, and he asks the
1:54:40
Speaker 1: intelligence community or whoever's in front of him for the information.
1:54:42
Speaker 1: They basically say, no, we're not going to give it
1:54:43
Speaker 1: to you. I mean, this is he's on behalf of
1:54:46
Speaker 1: the American taxpayers trying to get to the bottom of
1:54:48
Speaker 1: answers and questions. The information is out there, and they
1:54:50
Speaker 1: blanket just say, basically, go to hell, I'm not gonna
1:54:53
Speaker 1: give it to you. This is the world we live in.
1:54:55
Speaker 1: And I find that as offensive as it can possibly be. Kurt,
1:54:58
Speaker 1: is this done and baked into the cake? Or we
1:55:00
Speaker 1: have time to get in touch with our elected officials.
1:55:02
Speaker 1: Where are we with in terms of these Open Records
1:55:04
Speaker 1: and Open Meetings Act reforms?
1:55:06
Speaker 9: Well, those reforms have already gone in you know, I mean,
1:55:11
Speaker 9: I know in terms of restricting the General Assembly in
1:55:13
Speaker 9: terms of that, you know, being able to charge up
1:55:15
Speaker 9: to seven hundred and fifty dollars you know for videos.
1:55:19
Speaker 9: I knew the newspaper association and actually very critical of it.
1:55:23
Speaker 9: You know, I was just crying it while was being considered.
1:55:26
Speaker 9: But that those are those arguments apparently set on death fears. Well,
1:55:30
Speaker 9: you know, at the end of the day, the problem,
1:55:32
Speaker 9: I think the General Assembly realizes this is not the
1:55:35
Speaker 9: trans this aspect of openness and transparency.
1:55:38
Speaker 7: Is not a priority for voters.
1:55:40
Speaker 9: You know, voters are more going to be more interested
1:55:42
Speaker 9: in their public safety, the economy, their taxes.
1:55:47
Speaker 7: You know, if this was on a picking moder list,
1:55:50
Speaker 7: it's going to be very low on that list.
1:55:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weed dweller issue, Kurt, I'll can see.
1:55:54
Speaker 1: But that's why we have you to look out for
1:55:56
Speaker 1: our best interest and keep looking at where the weeds
1:55:58
Speaker 1: are and what the problems are with them. You know,
1:56:00
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny and comical. It's adding insult to
1:56:02
Speaker 1: injury seven hundred and fifty bucks. That's after you litigate
1:56:06
Speaker 1: and win the litigation to get them to produce the documents.
1:56:09
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna be whacked with a seven hundred fifty
1:56:11
Speaker 1: dollars charge right.
1:56:13
Speaker 7: Well, actually, actually probably wouldn't have.
1:56:15
Speaker 9: A case until you say, here's my money, okay for
1:56:18
Speaker 9: day Dane, don't even have to prepare the video until
1:56:21
Speaker 9: you pay whatever their estimate is that it's going to cost.
1:56:24
Speaker 1: Pay up front. We'll get around to it sometime, maybe
1:56:27
Speaker 1: a year from now. Kurt Hartman is gonna be talking
1:56:29
Speaker 1: all about this tonight in the Take twenty segment of
1:56:31
Speaker 1: the empower Use seminar, which will include a fascinating tour
1:56:34
Speaker 1: of the universe. Takes place at three hundred Great Oaks
1:56:37
Speaker 1: Drive in studio or you can log in from home,
1:56:39
Speaker 1: but I think you will certainly benefit from being there
1:56:42
Speaker 1: for the fascinating tour of the universe, and of course
1:56:44
Speaker 1: you can ask Greg our Kurt a few questions. Kurt,
1:56:46
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time this morning and
1:56:48
Speaker 1: for taking on this task tonight. I hope you have
1:56:50
Speaker 1: a really well attended seminar tonight.
1:56:53
Speaker 7: Great. Thank you, Brian.
1:56:54
Speaker 1: Keep up your great work, brother, you're really helping out
1:56:56
Speaker 1: A eight twenty nine fifty five KRC detalk station Slight
1:57:05
Speaker 1: dramatic build up in anticipation of post election defeat, wine
1:57:11
Speaker 1: choices in studio, the fifty five KRC residents Samier, we
1:57:15
Speaker 1: keep them parked in the closet. Keegan Corcoran. Now actually
1:57:17
Speaker 1: he's from Magnician Wines Wine wine wholesaler. Keegan is almost
1:57:21
Speaker 1: as high as you can get in terms of standings
1:57:23
Speaker 1: globally for Samier, he is just below the highest most
1:57:28
Speaker 1: lofty status ever. You're one of four hundred six hundred roughly,
1:57:33
Speaker 1: and what's the level advanced Advance and then there's master, right, Yeah, Okay,
1:57:38
Speaker 1: So someday the snobbery only increases from here. Oh lord almighty,
1:57:42
Speaker 1: you won't even be in the same room at me
1:57:43
Speaker 1: with man. I read the tests questions, yeah, your dad
1:57:47
Speaker 1: sent them over to me. Really yeah, yeah, the fifty
1:57:51
Speaker 1: pages single space questions, like you know, I just it
1:57:55
Speaker 1: is the most insane amount of volume of information. I
1:57:59
Speaker 1: could not believe the stuff you're supposed to know for
1:58:01
Speaker 1: that test.
1:58:01
Speaker 12: Those were if he sent you the file, I'm thinking
1:58:05
Speaker 12: because my dad and my mom. But my dad was
1:58:08
Speaker 12: the one who was like reading the questions for me,
1:58:10
Speaker 12: like in preparation leading up to the exam, the Masters
1:58:14
Speaker 12: of the Exam, which yes, at for in April, you
1:58:18
Speaker 12: know that that is Yeah, single space questions and it's
1:58:21
Speaker 12: about seven I think it's about seventy five pages.
1:58:24
Speaker 1: Yes, that's total.
1:58:26
Speaker 12: That's just the the written part. Well, that's just me
1:58:30
Speaker 12: like transponting my note cards for this exam to that.
1:58:33
Speaker 12: So the volume information extends out beyond further than that. Yes, certainly,
1:58:39
Speaker 12: just stuff. You know, there's no point for me like
1:58:42
Speaker 12: to burn questions that I already know. So it's you know,
1:58:45
Speaker 12: the theory is anyways, like once you start to really
1:58:47
Speaker 12: cement the information, you can start eliminating questions and then
1:58:51
Speaker 12: hopefully you know, minimize your quote unquote deck.
1:58:55
Speaker 1: Yeah of questions. Well that's why there are only four
1:58:57
Speaker 1: hundred I'm in the planet because looking at those questions,
1:59:00
Speaker 1: we're all nuts and are so many people. You are
1:59:03
Speaker 1: absolutely insane wine people. But congratulations, I'm glad we have
1:59:07
Speaker 1: folks like that. You will pass at some point, and
1:59:09
Speaker 1: most people do not pass their first, second, third, fourth time.
1:59:12
Speaker 1: It's just then extraordinary challenge in studio. Also, I can
1:59:16
Speaker 1: never look Thomas Woodley, who's here from Lydian Winery which
1:59:20
Speaker 1: is located in outside of Seattle, Washington, and he's brought
1:59:24
Speaker 1: some selections. What we're doing today is using the Tuesday election.
1:59:27
Speaker 1: We'll say losses. I don't even know what your political
1:59:29
Speaker 1: affiliation is, Thomas, it doesn't matter. But if you're reeling
1:59:32
Speaker 1: from an election loss and you're feeling blue, or you're
1:59:34
Speaker 1: in a celebratory mood, you want to drink something. You
1:59:36
Speaker 1: brought some great wines with you to talk about today.
1:59:39
Speaker 11: Thank you.
1:59:39
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's wines for every occasion. I think either way,
1:59:43
Speaker 13: it's good angst relief. So that's kind of what we're
1:59:46
Speaker 13: going for.
1:59:46
Speaker 1: We're always looking for an excuse to drink. It's a
1:59:49
Speaker 1: okay so, and you're fine doing that here in the
1:59:51
Speaker 1: Morning Show. Although there are rules that prohibit the drinking
1:59:54
Speaker 1: of wine in the studio, we're going to certainly abide
1:59:56
Speaker 1: by those rules, or at least we're going to give
1:59:57
Speaker 1: the perception that we are. Starting with Hold on, it's Justine. Yes,
2:00:06
Speaker 1: that's the name of the wine. And remember this is
2:00:08
Speaker 1: a Venia winery. A ve e n N I A
2:00:12
Speaker 1: I got that right, yeah, Jachima Valley, Oh no, I'm
2:00:16
Speaker 1: looking at the red wine. That's not the one we're
2:00:18
Speaker 1: talking about. We're on the Lydian SBS Lydion SBS. I apologize,
2:00:24
Speaker 1: I'm not the saumier. That's what we got one here
2:00:25
Speaker 1: to keep me on track. So this is a white
2:00:29
Speaker 1: one with an eighty percent so on bloc and twenty
2:00:32
Speaker 1: sem semion. Yeah yeah.
2:00:34
Speaker 13: And the name Lydian refers to the musical mode in
2:00:39
Speaker 13: so the winery where there's six of us, half of
2:00:42
Speaker 13: them are classically trained musicians, so there's a lot of
2:00:44
Speaker 13: music nerds, and uh, Lydian is one of the classical
2:00:48
Speaker 13: building blocks in music theory.
2:00:50
Speaker 1: So that scale that's on.
2:00:53
Speaker 13: The label is the actual Lydian mode itself.
2:00:56
Speaker 1: And you can play that on piano, no kidding. Yeah,
2:00:58
Speaker 1: well I throw my what eight years of piano, six
2:01:02
Speaker 1: years of trumpet, a little bit of clarinet out the
2:01:05
Speaker 1: window because I never took music theory. Yeah yeah, so
2:01:08
Speaker 1: you're on triangle now. Basically I can still eat set
2:01:12
Speaker 1: music slowly and very very painfully. I can get through
2:01:17
Speaker 1: the piano still, but I don't I don't practice much anymore.
2:01:20
Speaker 1: But this this wine, you know, if I was able
2:01:23
Speaker 1: to taste it, I would call it amazingly refresh refreshing, light,
2:01:27
Speaker 1: not dry. What would you characterize it in terms of,
2:01:31
Speaker 1: you know, on a scale of you know, really dry,
2:01:33
Speaker 1: too sweet.
2:01:35
Speaker 13: I mean it's it's it's it's technically dry in the
2:01:37
Speaker 13: sense that it doesn't have a whole lot of residual sugar.
2:01:40
Speaker 13: But a lot of times you get with with especially
2:01:42
Speaker 13: with semion, you get like perceptible fruit sweetness.
2:01:45
Speaker 10: M hm.
2:01:46
Speaker 13: So yeah, it's kind of always hard to parse out
2:01:49
Speaker 13: when you're talking about sweetness because some people refer to actually,
2:01:52
Speaker 13: when we're in the wine world, how much residual sugar
2:01:55
Speaker 13: is left over from fermentation?
2:01:56
Speaker 1: I got you.
2:01:57
Speaker 13: So they stopped the fermentation at a certain level, you know,
2:01:59
Speaker 13: especially just taking like German reesling for example, At certain
2:02:02
Speaker 13: levels they stop the fermentation. Those wines have a resultant
2:02:06
Speaker 13: lower alcohol ABV because some of that sugar was left
2:02:13
Speaker 13: to not metabolize and stay in the wine.
2:02:16
Speaker 1: That's what impacts the alcohol level.
2:02:18
Speaker 2: Yep.
2:02:19
Speaker 1: Okay, Because I was jokingly saying to Keegan when he
2:02:22
Speaker 1: came in, I said, we're drowning our sorrows. I suspect
2:02:24
Speaker 1: what you brought in are all the highest alcohol by
2:02:27
Speaker 1: volume wines that are out there.
2:02:28
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean these are. This one isn't super high,
2:02:31
Speaker 13: it's like thirteen percent, but the but The idea is
2:02:34
Speaker 13: is that when the grapes come in, when the grapes
2:02:38
Speaker 13: come in ripe, they all are fully ripe in terms
2:02:42
Speaker 13: of potential, sort of think of it in terms of
2:02:44
Speaker 13: like high school physics, like potential and kinetic energy, right right,
2:02:47
Speaker 13: and they so they have they're all fully ripe. It's
2:02:49
Speaker 13: just a question of how far do you let that
2:02:52
Speaker 13: sugar metabolize into alcohol during fermentation.
2:02:55
Speaker 1: Okay, so one of my favorites, Keegan those dulce it's
2:02:58
Speaker 1: a dessert wine, Yes, that kind of thing. They let
2:03:01
Speaker 1: the grape go as far as it can go in
2:03:03
Speaker 1: terms of ripening. It's almost to the point where it's mushy. Right.
2:03:06
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's like would be like considered like a late harvest.
2:03:09
Speaker 13: So that's even like pushing the sugar levels beyond what
2:03:12
Speaker 13: a normal table wine would be got. And then and
2:03:15
Speaker 13: then they still have to they still have to ferment
2:03:19
Speaker 13: the hell out of it just to get it to
2:03:22
Speaker 13: even that level. And typically and typically those wines are
2:03:25
Speaker 13: even more difficult to make because you have to have
2:03:28
Speaker 13: really strong yeasts that are going to continue to metabolize
2:03:32
Speaker 13: the sugar into alcohol.
2:03:34
Speaker 1: And a huge human element in terms of harvesting too,
2:03:36
Speaker 1: because you have to pick them just at the exact
2:03:38
Speaker 1: right now.
2:03:38
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, or if you get into stuff that's
2:03:40
Speaker 13: actual ice wine, yeah, you get you get like in
2:03:43
Speaker 13: you know, they can make ice wine by actually freezing
2:03:46
Speaker 13: the grapes, but it kind of is.
2:03:48
Speaker 1: But but traditional ice wine extraction.
2:03:51
Speaker 13: Yeah, but traditional ice wine.
2:03:53
Speaker 1: They they actually.
2:03:53
Speaker 13: Harvested after the clusters have have frozen on their own
2:03:57
Speaker 13: just because of weather, and then they come in.
2:04:00
Speaker 1: But that that accounts for why they're comparatively expensive. Yes,
2:04:04
Speaker 1: very laborious, very laborious. We're gonna continue with Thomas Woodley
2:04:07
Speaker 1: and Keegan Corcoran.
2:04:08
Speaker 5: Keean.
2:04:08
Speaker 1: You can find Keegan if you're interested in commercial or
2:04:11
Speaker 1: wholesale purchases of wine, if you're a winery or a
2:04:14
Speaker 1: wine store, a restaurant, anybody out there that's interested in
2:04:18
Speaker 1: working with Keegan. He's amazing. He's the greatest guy in
2:04:20
Speaker 1: the world when it comes up. You know, it's just
2:04:22
Speaker 1: his personality, his friendliness, his knowledge is clearly impeccable. In
2:04:27
Speaker 1: ignitionwines dot com, and you focus primarily on domestic wines
2:04:34
Speaker 1: or because I was going to ask you about paus,
2:04:36
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you about tariffs. Sure, and see
2:04:39
Speaker 1: if that's impacted your world and given what you sell,
2:04:41
Speaker 1: because I know it's a real problem for some European
2:04:43
Speaker 1: winery or things like that. Solastic. We'll pause. Bring Keegan
2:04:46
Speaker 1: and Thomas back AT's tight thirty seven Right now fifty
2:04:48
Speaker 1: five KRCIT Talks Station. Something is happening.
2:04:51
Speaker 2: It's time to.
2:04:54
Speaker 1: Forty one fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Brian Thomas with
2:04:58
Speaker 1: resident wine samer Keegan Corkoran in studio ignitionwines dot com
2:05:03
Speaker 1: and one of the restaurant groups that works with Keegan.
2:05:07
Speaker 1: You may have heard of Jeff Ruby. Jeff Ruby restaurant. Keegan.
2:05:11
Speaker 12: You were there for twenty years as their their head
2:05:13
Speaker 12: so many a uh not in that in that position
2:05:16
Speaker 12: as beverage director for about the last eight I was
2:05:18
Speaker 12: with them for twenty years. Yeah, all right, And if
2:05:20
Speaker 12: you accumulated all that knowledge and experience, that's when you
2:05:22
Speaker 12: broke off and decided you're going to go on your
2:05:23
Speaker 12: own and do a wholesale wine. And you've been very
2:05:25
Speaker 12: successful that you're still working with the Ruby restaurants. And
2:05:28
Speaker 12: I failed to mention this amazing uh sps from Lydian Winer.
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Speaker 12: He's Thomas Woodley in studio from Lydian is available at
2:05:35
Speaker 12: E and O restaurant.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: E and O.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, for sure, all three of their restaurants. And uh,
2:05:40
Speaker 12: you know, they do a they do a great job.
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Speaker 12: Shout out to my buddy Tim that works over there.
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Speaker 12: He's he's the man.
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Speaker 1: Tim. Appreciate it and you're working with the right guy.
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Speaker 1: Keigon Corkoran moving over, Oh real quick on the Lydion SPS,
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Speaker 1: which is again the Sauvignon blanc semi on mix. What
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Speaker 1: you would you recommend serving this with? It's pretty much
2:06:01
Speaker 1: it's just really good. I can see this having very
2:06:03
Speaker 1: broad applications including like, you know, just sitting down and drinking. Yeah,
2:06:07
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's great for first course.
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Speaker 13: You know, it's a day where even when you get
2:06:12
Speaker 13: a sunny day like we had like yesterday, Oh yeah,
2:06:14
Speaker 13: just go sit out on the back deck and enjoy it.
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Speaker 12: Thomas always brings the great weather, by the way, when
2:06:19
Speaker 12: he comes in, like every market visit likes, the weather
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Speaker 12: is just perfect.
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Speaker 1: Guess is not normal. I think that's I think that's.
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Speaker 13: Just due to the fact that I'm a born and
2:06:27
Speaker 13: raised Seattleite and the weather gods look upon me unfavorably
2:06:32
Speaker 13: most of the year. VIM from Seattle, so I come here,
2:06:35
Speaker 13: they do me a solid in any place I travel to,
2:06:37
Speaker 13: they're like, hey, you know what, We're gonna give you
2:06:39
Speaker 13: some some ringer weather for a few days.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, consider I grab the wrong wine when
2:06:43
Speaker 1: I was talking about the the sbs now in hand,
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Speaker 1: the Avenia that is the winery.
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Speaker 13: Venni is the main winery.
2:06:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, Justine is the name of the wine. And it's
2:06:54
Speaker 1: it's just a described as a red wine, which I
2:06:55
Speaker 1: presume is a blend.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a it's a what we call a GSM,
2:06:59
Speaker 13: so it's a it's a that's sort of a catch
2:07:02
Speaker 13: all term for a Southern rond blend. It's primarily almost
2:07:05
Speaker 13: two thirds grenache with Maved and Sarah, so we're equal
2:07:10
Speaker 13: fans of Bordeaux and Roan varieties at of Ania, so
2:07:15
Speaker 13: you can find examples, really beautiful examples of both great
2:07:21
Speaker 13: varietal blends. And the name Justine is a cool story.
2:07:24
Speaker 13: It's there's a writer by the name of Lawrence Durell,
2:07:29
Speaker 13: and he was his first book that was a part
2:07:32
Speaker 13: of the Alexandria trilogy came out in nineteen fifty seven
2:07:35
Speaker 13: and Justine was the sort of mysterious heroine that he
2:07:39
Speaker 13: followed around and was beguiled him. So that's why Chris
2:07:42
Speaker 13: our winemaker, who's a literary guy like me, came up.
2:07:45
Speaker 1: With the gun crew over your one. It's a fun crew.
2:07:48
Speaker 13: Stereo wars are a real thing, man. I mean, you
2:07:51
Speaker 13: got three classically trained musicians, and Chris and I both
2:07:54
Speaker 13: work in record stores growing up. It's it's knockdown, drag out.
2:07:57
Speaker 13: There's a lot of opinions. I can absolutely man. All right,
2:08:00
Speaker 13: Keegan Corcoran, since you are so amazing at breaking down flavors.
2:08:05
Speaker 13: I just recounted to the story about this little note.
2:08:07
Speaker 13: I was thinking it was like black pepper. There was
2:08:09
Speaker 13: a little bite in this wine that I really love.
2:08:11
Speaker 13: And I'm like, drive me crazy, I asked Keegan. I
2:08:14
Speaker 13: send him a text, But what the hell is that ginger?
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Speaker 10: That's it?
2:08:17
Speaker 1: That's right, because there's a bite to ginger, that ginger
2:08:19
Speaker 1: flavors right there. I kind of sat for years and
2:08:22
Speaker 1: thought about it. Never would have come up with that.
2:08:24
Speaker 1: It took you two seconds. What would you say this
2:08:27
Speaker 1: of any Justine has by way of flavor?
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Speaker 12: So I think it's a very classic interpretation of or
2:08:34
Speaker 12: a domestic take on you know what Thomas said, so
2:08:36
Speaker 12: rowned varieties, particularly for me, Southern rhone, which is a classic,
2:08:40
Speaker 12: so it's a part of France and the kind of
2:08:42
Speaker 12: southeastern ish part of the country. But you know where
2:08:46
Speaker 12: they grow a lot of grenache, Surrah mor Vedra, and
2:08:49
Speaker 12: you know the flavor profiles for those wines. And then
2:08:53
Speaker 12: also on this wine typically is you've got this kind
2:08:56
Speaker 12: of brambly black blue, kind of purple fruited care mixed
2:09:01
Speaker 12: with my biggest marker besides like like almost a chewy meatiness,
2:09:05
Speaker 12: but my biggest marker for both that place and then
2:09:08
Speaker 12: this style of wine is typically white pepper versus like
2:09:11
Speaker 12: coarse black pepper, So it has like a which anyone
2:09:14
Speaker 12: that cooks a lot of what there's a difference between
2:09:17
Speaker 12: course of black pepper and then powder each pepper and
2:09:20
Speaker 12: and that soft note of white pepper always takes me
2:09:23
Speaker 12: to not only those particular particular particular varieties, but also
2:09:28
Speaker 12: a particular region too, so it helps you kind of
2:09:30
Speaker 12: narrow it down. And like I, you know, I like
2:09:32
Speaker 12: to talk to or envision like an old timey switchboard operator.
2:09:36
Speaker 12: That's usually my thing. So like when I when I
2:09:39
Speaker 12: am describing how people can make those connections in their brains.
2:09:42
Speaker 12: It's very similar to that. So learning how to taste
2:09:45
Speaker 12: wine describe wine aptly is very much experiential. And the
2:09:48
Speaker 12: more of those dots that you connect. So again, like
2:09:51
Speaker 12: to the switchboard kind of thing, imagine you're you know,
2:09:54
Speaker 12: I know that maybe for gen Z this doesn't track, but.
2:09:57
Speaker 1: You know it does, right, But my audience understands where
2:09:59
Speaker 1: you're right.
2:10:00
Speaker 12: Yeah, But I mean, you know, if you're the switchboard
2:10:02
Speaker 12: operator and the call comes in like, hey, I want
2:10:04
Speaker 12: to talk to banana, it's like, okay, well I know
2:10:06
Speaker 12: exactly where that goes because you know, I recognize the voice. Right,
2:10:10
Speaker 12: We've all had bananas a million times. Sure, if you
2:10:12
Speaker 12: close your eyes and I gave you a banana, you'd
2:10:14
Speaker 12: be like, there's no doubt that this is banana. Well,
2:10:17
Speaker 12: if you extrapolate that out across you know, all these
2:10:20
Speaker 12: different types of fruits, flavors, and then conditions. So for example,
2:10:24
Speaker 12: like overripe banana, green banana, those have very different flavors
2:10:28
Speaker 12: and textures, right, yeah, So apply that to the entire world,
2:10:31
Speaker 12: which is billions and billions and billions of different you know,
2:10:34
Speaker 12: flavors and whatnot. You know, you can you can build
2:10:37
Speaker 12: this switchboard of like you recognize very rapidly the voices
2:10:42
Speaker 12: when they call.
2:10:42
Speaker 1: If that makes so, you're basically saying, we should just
2:10:45
Speaker 1: keep drinking more and more line until we finally can
2:10:49
Speaker 1: connect our switchboard to break this up, until the light
2:10:51
Speaker 1: bulb goes on and while you're drinking.
2:10:54
Speaker 13: The other fun fact is that when you're picking up
2:10:58
Speaker 13: all these flavors, you're not picking up analogs of those flavors,
2:11:02
Speaker 13: the esters and flavor combinations that are present in a berry,
2:11:08
Speaker 13: a grape berry, regardless whatever varietal it is. It's the
2:11:12
Speaker 13: same chemical compounds that make say, strawberry tastes like strawberry,
2:11:16
Speaker 13: or banana tastes like banana. It's not reminiscent of those things.
2:11:19
Speaker 13: It literally is those things.
2:11:20
Speaker 1: Gotcha or snosberry tastes. No excell Willie Walker fans out there.
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Speaker 1: Eight forty seven will continue with Thomas Woodley and Keegan
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Speaker 1: Keegan Corcoran from Ignition Wines online at Ignitionwines dot com
2:11:52
Speaker 1: wholesale distributor if you are interested in wholesale purchases. He
2:11:55
Speaker 1: is the man, and Thomas Woodley from Lidian Wines says,
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Speaker 1: outside of Seattle, washing in with some amazing wines they
2:12:01
Speaker 1: brought in today. Drown your sorrows or celebrate. Either way
2:12:04
Speaker 1: you go, You've got outstanding options. These options that we're
2:12:06
Speaker 1: dealing with today, the Avennia Justine, the Lydian sbs, and
2:12:11
Speaker 1: finally the Avenia. Gravlora not Guevara, the don't tell me that, Tom,
2:12:19
Speaker 1: it's not. It's it's a political, a political grav Lora
2:12:23
Speaker 1: where the name come from. This is another red wine,
2:12:25
Speaker 1: but it is remarkably different in taste than the other one,
2:12:27
Speaker 1: even though I'm not allowed to taste it. Yeah, So
2:12:30
Speaker 1: it's so.
2:12:30
Speaker 13: Grava is a tribute to the Grove region of Bordeaux.
2:12:35
Speaker 13: So just just south of the left Bank, there's an
2:12:37
Speaker 13: area if you look on a map called Grove and
2:12:40
Speaker 13: it's gravelly soil. But it's a place where Cabernet Sauvignon
2:12:44
Speaker 13: and Merlau play as kind of equal partners.
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Speaker 1: Oh and look, it's Cabernet Sauvignon, Merleau and Cabernet franc
2:12:52
Speaker 1: so perfect name.
2:12:53
Speaker 13: Yeah. So it's a it's a like quintessential Washington State
2:12:58
Speaker 13: Bordo blend.
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Speaker 1: Right, and if I was allowed to drink it, I
2:13:03
Speaker 1: would think this will be drier than the last one
2:13:05
Speaker 1: we had, which was also a red blend. Correct, Yeah,
2:13:09
Speaker 1: what are you Hpathetically? I think every time we think
2:13:12
Speaker 1: of a cabernet tasting wine, which probably this is leaning
2:13:15
Speaker 1: it because it has a predominantly cabernet great land, I
2:13:18
Speaker 1: always think of red meat rich, like holiday feast type food.
2:13:24
Speaker 13: Oh, this is both the Justine and the Griver exceptional
2:13:28
Speaker 13: holiday wines. I mean they whether you're doing turkey for
2:13:32
Speaker 13: Thanksgiving or you're going to get into a you know,
2:13:34
Speaker 13: standing rib roast type scenario for Christmas time, it'll it'll
2:13:39
Speaker 13: absolutely play well with both.
2:13:41
Speaker 1: Okay, and note comments on this one. Hegan it's delicious.
2:13:46
Speaker 11: I mean.
2:13:48
Speaker 1: That's what you expect to sell to say it's delicious. No,
2:13:51
Speaker 1: you know it's a supertentious wine.
2:13:53
Speaker 12: Yeah, I you know, this is uh it's the fruit
2:13:58
Speaker 12: I think is softer. It has a nice mix of
2:14:00
Speaker 12: like red and black fruit. But the nice thing that
2:14:04
Speaker 12: I think are the the one of the main attributes
2:14:07
Speaker 12: that have attracted or has attracted me to this winery
2:14:10
Speaker 12: and this wine making team and the style of wines
2:14:13
Speaker 12: that they do is they're not to hang out with. Well, yeah,
2:14:16
Speaker 12: that first and foremost, but it's you know, they're there
2:14:19
Speaker 12: are wines that are they're not overt they don't just
2:14:22
Speaker 12: you know, hit you over the head with flavor by
2:14:25
Speaker 12: way of like you know, that's you're only getting one thing.
2:14:28
Speaker 1: There's a lot of like wines. You can pull the
2:14:30
Speaker 1: shelf food not overwhelming exactly. I mean you can.
2:14:32
Speaker 12: There's a lot of wines on the shelf that certainly
2:14:35
Speaker 12: have their stylistic you know the places, but so you
2:14:39
Speaker 12: can you can pull something off the shelf sometimes and
2:14:41
Speaker 12: you and you drink and say, man, all I get
2:14:43
Speaker 12: is this one thing and it's just like it's right
2:14:46
Speaker 12: in the middle of the stage, that kind of thing,
2:14:47
Speaker 12: and that's the only thing I can focus on no
2:14:49
Speaker 12: matter what I'm eating with it. But these are very
2:14:51
Speaker 12: complimentary to to food.
2:14:53
Speaker 1: All right. Other than eno restaurants where these are all served.
2:14:56
Speaker 1: Where else can people get them? If they want to
2:14:57
Speaker 1: buy in bulk, they go through you in Egnis short.
2:14:59
Speaker 12: But yeah, country Fresh jungle gyms certainly, Yeah, they're they're
2:15:06
Speaker 12: they're kind of all over the place.
2:15:07
Speaker 1: You're not going to experience the price point. I'm going
2:15:09
Speaker 1: to ask you, but at a jungle gyms where these
2:15:12
Speaker 1: might be available, what are the price points the range
2:15:15
Speaker 1: for the wines that we've had here today in front of.
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Speaker 12: It, so retail, you know, talking high teens to you know,
2:15:21
Speaker 12: the Grivera would be closer to fifty Oh.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, well still within the realm of affordability.
2:15:28
Speaker 1: From my standpoint, I agree a lot cheaper than something
2:15:30
Speaker 1: will be imported from France, which are subject to tariffs.
2:15:33
Speaker 1: I didn't get around to that, but right, that's what
2:15:37
Speaker 1: does that increase the price for what was the tariff
2:15:40
Speaker 1: on the like a Bordeaux.
2:15:41
Speaker 12: Or well, so I have I have a palette of
2:15:42
Speaker 12: a Spanish wine that just landed, and so now I'm
2:15:45
Speaker 12: looking at you know, the ten percent and that's and
2:15:47
Speaker 12: you know it's but added on to especially for a
2:15:50
Speaker 12: small distributor like myself, that that's that impacts my business
2:15:54
Speaker 12: in a massive way. But then also, you know Thomas
2:15:56
Speaker 12: is in Washington and the business with Canada significant. You
2:16:00
Speaker 12: can speak to this better than.
2:16:01
Speaker 1: At a time. Sorry, I don't. Joe's already give me
2:16:04
Speaker 1: the hairy eyeball. That's why I'm sorry for waiting so
2:16:06
Speaker 1: long to ask the terriff question. King Cork in edition
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Speaker 1: of wines dot Com. Thomas Woodley, It's been a real
2:16:12
Speaker 1: pleasure having you in studio. Man, you do some great
2:16:14
Speaker 1: work out there.
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Speaker 13: Thanks for having me.
2:16:15
Speaker 1: Sounding a great crew too, We're good eggs. I'm gonna
2:16:18
Speaker 1: change my careers, I think based upon what you said
2:16:20
Speaker 1: about that place eight fifty seven. Jank you. Joe Strecker
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Speaker 1: second