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Navigating Spiritual Parenting: Empowering Neurodiverse Children with Insights from Angel Medium Julie Jancius · The Spiritual Parent: Mindful Tools for Raising Spiritual and Conscious Kids

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: This fear that I'm feeling within or needing protection.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Is it a legitimate fear to have?
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Is it trying to tell me something?
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Gain what you can from it and if you really feel nervous or scared about something, there's always Archangel Michael, right?
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Whether it's stress, anxiety, fear itself, call on Archangel Michael.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: He is always with you.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like we talk about guardian angels that are always with us, but really Archangel Michael is always with all of us as well.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: He's helping us feel safe, feel secure.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: It's the energy that really stems from the root chakra and if you don't have that as a foundation within your being, that safety and securedness, we really can't build off of that spiritually within your energy field and help you grow your consciousness.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: Hi conscious parents.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: It's Keri here and I am here with a little info about raising our mindful kids.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: I've got some tips and tricks about breaking free of the box and becoming who you are and teaching your kids how to do that along the way.
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  Speaker 2: Join us.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: Hi there, conscious parents.
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: Before we start today's episode, it's Keri here and I wanted to reach out to ask you guys for a quick favor.
• 1:18
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  Speaker 2: So thanks so much for tuning in and I'm so excited for you to hear today's message.
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: Happy listening, hi there, and welcome back to Heart Parents.
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: I'm Keri here and I am so excited.
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: I have an amazing guest, julie Jancis, who is also known as the Angel Medium, and she's an author and host of Angels in Awakening.
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: She wrote the book and she has the podcast and I have been listening to her for a couple of years now and she's really helped me to help go through my spiritual awakening and connection and raising my energy, and I'm so excited to have you here today, julie.
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: Welcome to our show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so excited to be here too.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: That light has never flickered, and I don't know if you saw it while you were doing the intro, but it was just going crazy I have that a lot of my house.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: I always say it's my abuelita, my abuela who helped to raise me spiritually and help me connect.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's amazing.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: Some spirits on the other side use light.
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: Some use like birds really to connect or numbers at the at first, but I tend to when I'm in interviews with people or getting interviewed, the lights will flicker when it's some, like a sign that you receive.
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: So that's so cool.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: I love that so much.
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  Speaker 2: I was just praying to have her guidance yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: So she was actually a special educator and very spiritual and brought spirituality into her classroom many years before it became popular, and so I was actually calling her yesterday and saying I need your help right now in raising my two neurodiverse, gifted, spirited and very highly sensitive kiddos, and so I love this right now.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: This is just all encompassing, for all areas, julie, and I would love to hear you mentioned that you have a neurodiverse piece for you and the connection that you have grown and realized and educated yourself in.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: I would love to hear more about your journey and what that looks like for you.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have ADHD and really I'm 43 now and I've been looking at this since I was probably 13 years old, right, because I think probably around 10, 11, they started taking me into the therapist trying to get a diagnosis.
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: But what we didn't know in the 80s and 90s that we do today is just how different ADHD looks in girls versus boys, and I am by no means like a medical expert or any sort of expert on ADHD.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: The expertise that I have is having it myself and seeing and being very sensitive to energy.
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: I am so incredibly sensitive to just all energy, as most empaths are, but I can notice just like when my energy changes, even in the slightest little bit.
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: So it's led me to research.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: Just so many different ADHD experts read so many different books, and the one book that I love more than anything is by Dr Daniel Amen Healing ADD.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of that one.
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: You can read it on Audible, but I suggest having a physical copy too, because he was the first person in the world one of two people to put humans into brain scanners, look at what's happening in the brains of neurodiverse people and then try different treatments, put them back into the brain scanners see what's happening differently with the brain, what's working and what's not.
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: And when he started doing this and just working with thousands of clients in the 90s, what he found is that there's really different types of AD and ADHD.
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: And so this goes through all of the different types, healing AD, the book and you could say I'm a three, a five and a nine, I'm a 10, a four and a one, and the more that you know what kind of ADD you have and how it works, the more you just understand your own brain, the more you understand your own energy and you're able to work with the flow of your own rhythms spiritually, and not against them.
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: So, for example, everybody loves routines, right, like getting up and getting ready in the morning and doing your hair and doing your makeup.
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: It just appears from the outside looking in, that is so easy to get into a routine for many women to do.
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: I can't like it's a shock that I have makeup on today, but I've got about seven day old hair with a lot of what's that.
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: Dry shampoo.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and the way that I would describe ADD ADHD in women this might be typical for men too is remember back being a young girl and getting those special pens that had all different colors at the top, but just you could only use one at a time.
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: So if you wanted pink, you had to click down the pink and write in pink, and then if you wanted a blue, you had to click up the pink and then click down the blue.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: For neurotypical people, the way that consciousness flows to and through them is typically like one thought at a time.
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: So you can get one thought go do the dishes.
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  Speaker 1: You go to the dishes, you get another thought, go do something else, and you follow this sequence People with ADD and ADHD tend to have I'm not joking like hundreds of thoughts happening all at the same time, and so all of those thoughts are like that competing pen.
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: And so how do you bring up a daughter in this world who wants to do all of the things that you're telling her to do, but she's thinking of them all at once and they're flooding her and they're overwhelming her, and she can't physically get to that point especially when we're young girls of what's the one I'm going to go do, what's the one I'm going to prioritize and go do?
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: And I know that we're living in 2024, almost 2025 here and it's supposed to be a different day and age.
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: Part of humanity has it figured out and we're parenting in a different way.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of us are trying to figure out the way, but there's a lot of kids who are still being raised in households like we grew up when we were young, with a lot of shame and not realizing that ADHD does not have to be a setback in any way, shape or form.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: It can be your biggest strength and superpower.
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  Speaker 1: You just have to learn how to use it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I love that.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: I love empowering our kids, especially these kids with the hundred thoughts going on at once.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: My daughter talks so fast and she used to suck her thumb, so she's definitely that a hundred thoughts and a hundred miles per minute and speaking and trying to get it out.
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: And we're trying to understand her and I can see her if she in a classroom situation where they're not accepting of that, just the wilting of the flower, that is my spirited daughter and so I'm really working hard with this podcast to try to get the message out there to help empower our kids, like you're describing, to help keep these onion layers of protection off right.
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: The less layers that we put on us as we're growing up conscious, the more likely we can remain conscious into adulthood.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: Have you heard that one piece I'm hearing?
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: This is an important message that you need for her that, when it comes to ADHD, they can hyper focus in on the topics that they love.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: And I think that is one of the best tools that parents have to use at their advantage, because the fact of the matter is, if your kid is not interested in X, Y and Z, you're not going to get them interested in it.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: The jury's still out for whether my daughter has ADHD, but I remember putting her in soccer practice for the very first time and she literally stood on the field, heard the directions and was like no, not doing this.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: And so she literally just laid down on the field, had fun, like rolling around in the grass picking daisies and staring at the sky.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: But for those kids who really are able to hyper-focus like she loves drama and acting and so she's able to hyper-focus and on that she got a bigger part in the eighth grade play which is this week, and she had a couple really big monologues.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: And I went in a couple of weeks after she got the role and I was like do you want me to run lines with you?
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: And so I started doing it and she knew, she like knew them all.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: She had hyper-focused that much, which I don't even think I could do ever or at this age of just learning and memorizing all of that.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: But if you could work to the advantage of ADHD and find out what your kids love, Explore different things that bring them joy, Be curious together and ask different questions about life and try different things Not just make it about like TV and video games, but explore the joys of life, oh my gosh, it could really become a journey of finding yourself versus.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm pulling my hair out, I can't believe my kid has this.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with this.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, I love that so much and I was just at Qigong this week and I was asking for help and motivation for myself and motivation for my nine-year-old son, because I have this fear.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: Is he not motivated?
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: And I heard while I was there it's not motivation, it's finding the focus, it's focusing on what they're passionate about, it's helping them to focus in what they're driven toward.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: And that little guy loves acting as well.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: So I love these highly sensitive kids and their love of a microphone highly sensitive kids and their love of a microphone.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's also how deeply empathic they are and that they can very easily embody different roles, because they can feel something so deeply, I don't know how somebody could be an actor without that Interesting.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: I love that so much.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: That's a good point, Yep, and I'm finding my own voice with this podcast and as a highly sensitive mama.
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: It's taking on different roles and channeling these messages that are meant to be here, so I love that.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you with our highly sensitive kids, do you have any ideas or tools for parents highly sensitive parents as well to help us with the empathic piece to protect our energy when we're going outside of our house or working with others?
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of different layers to this, and one of the things that I see happening a lot that I feel is my mission to try and help change the conversation around is, when it comes to this work working with angels, spirit connecting and getting messages from the other side, or just being a soul navigating your spiritual journey A lot of people worry about nothing to have regular protection against.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, my best friend from college, sarah.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: She called me the other day and she goes I've got B on the phone, b's her daughter, and she goes BZ's got a question for you.
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  Speaker 1: I go hi, bz, what's the question?
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  Speaker 1: And she's okay.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: I was at school and this girl told me that she put a curse on me and I go oh no, no, it's not possible, because you have this huge auric field of energy and what your soul is one droplet in the ocean that is God universe source.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: And so if you think about that one droplet in the ocean that is God universe source, it's the same vibration, okay.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: And so if you think about that one droplet in the ocean that is God universe source, it's the same vibration, okay.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: And so if we return to that same vibration, which is oneness and I teach people how to get into oneness.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: It's funny, russell Brand.
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  Speaker 1: He did the late night show way before he went off the deep end and he said oneness feels almost to him like the highest drug that he's ever been on.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: I haven't done a lot of those so I can't tell you I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the highest vibration that is.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: So when you get into that oneness energy if people want to check it out, it's the third episode of my podcast for free, angels and Awakening it gets you into the most protection you could ever be in, which is oneness with God, universe source, because over there there is no fear, there is no need for that protection.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: So that oneness is first and foremost.
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  Speaker 1: The second part of this is when we think about ourselves and our minds.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: We're always going to have an egoic mind.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: That's negative.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: It's what's kept humanity alive for so long and it really is more of a protective mechanism.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: But in today's day and age we don't need as much protection from bears or all these different natural things that could have happened back in the day.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: So you have to ask yourself this fear that I'm feeling within or needing protection, is it a legitimate fear to have?
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Is it trying to tell me something.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Gain what you can from it and if you really feel nervous or scared about something, there's always Archangel Michael, right?
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Whether it's stress, anxiety, fear itself, call on Archangel Michael.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: He is always with you.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like we talk about guardian angels that are always with us, but really Archangel Michael is always with all of us as well.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: He's helping us feel safe, feel secure.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: It's the energy that really stems from the root chakra and if you don't have that as a foundation within your being, that safety and securedness, we really can't build off of that spiritually within your energy field and help you grow your consciousness.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: There's no shame in the game.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: If you feel any fear or scaredness, call in Archangel Michael.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: He's saying to mention something to your mamas If you have dogs at home, just know that.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: All of my clients who have dogs at home.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: They tend to say that when Archangel Michael comes in and we pray for him to come in, the dogs can sense it.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: And sometimes they'll look at him or they'll bark a little bit.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: It's perfectly normal.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: They're just sensing energies and Michael's energy is massive.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Think like 14, 16 feet tall, just huge football player, but the biggest teddy bear in the whole wide world.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: That's so wonderful for our listeners to hear and I love teaching my kiddos these pieces.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: So giving them that foundation and that belief system and helping them to feel like they have somebody they can call for protection, that they have this connection, that's wonderful and that helps them feel so safe and secure.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard of Dr Lisa Miller.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: She's done so much research on spirituality and how our children are born spiritually connected and seeking this connection through nature and asking questions, and I love I think you had mentioned something about our kids being spiritually connected and having that foundation.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow, yeah, I've had Dr Lisa Miller on the podcast multiple times.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I've maybe had four conversations with her and reading her books are really fascinating.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: She's got one of the best books out there for raising spiritual children.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: She also is a person researcher who spent a lot of time on the floor in the hospital where they do inpatient therapy.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: So somebody comes in and they need to be in the hospital for certain days or a couple of weeks really to just process their lives, get some healthy tools through counseling.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: And what she noticed with our clients and I think this is her second book where she talks about this is that some clients would come back year after year and some clients would get the tools that they needed in just one time and they'd leave and they'd never come back.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: And after doing this work for so many years, she really felt this question needed an answer.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: So she studied it.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Why did some people have permanent healing where they didn't need to come back and some people didn't?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: And what she found was the number one thing was having a parent, either mom or dad, who was spiritual and talked to the child about spirituality growing up, so that child believed in something bigger than themselves.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: That could be any religion, that could be spirituality in general, it's all the same thing.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: It's God, universe source, it's all that is.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And she found that one thing alone changed I don't know if it's in the 80s or 90th percentile that if they had that one thing, they were more likely to have the healing stick.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Not that they didn't go through challenges, but that when they went through and faced challenges as an adult, they healed faster and more permanently.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Wow, okay, that's amazing.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: And that goes right along with what I was thinking about in raising my two children.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I was a speech therapist, an early intervention specialist and a teacher before becoming a parent, so I thought I've got this.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: It's going to be easy, it's going to be great.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I know everything there is.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: We're so prepared.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Once my son was born and they laid him on my chest, he looked at me with these fluorescent blue eyes, which were a surprise, and I was like whoa, my world was rocked.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm starting fresh and I started to get into my head a lot.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: It was the people around me who were spiritually connected and said put the baby books aside, stop getting into the fear place, Break out of the box of perfection and connect with yourself.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: You know how you need to help him.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Connect with him.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: He'll show you when he wants to go to sleep.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: He'll show you he doesn't need the 85 sleep gadgets.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: He'll show you how to help him.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: And so, through this connection it's how I started the podcast was wanting to help these parents connect with our hearts, to hear how to help our kids, to hear how our kids are all different and how to connect with our hearts, to hear how to help our kids, to hear how our kids are all different and how to connect with them.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Did you go through anything like?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: this Totally so.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: My daughter was born with a syndrome and we didn't know while she was in utero that she had a syndrome and now you would look at her and just not know that anything was wrong.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: But we spent the first month, six months really, in and out of the hospital, surgery after surgery, and then she was fed strictly by G2 for the first three years and I had all of these toys right and we didn't have much money back then so I would get them all at garage sales.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: And I remember having to take this trip to there's a really good hospital, I think, in Cleveland or Cincinnati, ohio.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So we took her from Illinois over there and I remember having a laundry basket or two of toys that I brought with in the car.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And she's nine months old at the time and there was a point at which spirit came in and said she doesn't need the stuff she needs you, which is just so powerful.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: She doesn't need the stuff she needs you and I think that's for all of us.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that connection and knowing in your heart what they need it's that's wonderful.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: You had that piece for you.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I hear so many parents saying I wish I would have known that sooner, but I believe there's a right time and a right place for all of these things to fall into alignment.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, looking back, that's wonderful.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to grow as they grow, and I think they're some of our biggest teachers, for sure.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, there's so much.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like raising my two kids has really brought forth so much spiritual growth and almost a spiritual awakening in this past year for myself, just learning more about spirituality and how I can assist that in my children and others and connecting with others that are also on a similar path and learning so much about this connection with our kids.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Also, teaching our kids so many pieces about mindful tools really helps them to connect.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I think that the more that they know and it's just little stuff too.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I remember beginning with my daughter.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: We live in Chicagoland of Illinois and right right outside of Chicago and some days, just the sky is so big here where you just see these amazing sunsets and the sky just glows this magnificent red and pink, and every time we would have that I would just look up in awe and wonder and just speak it to her my God, babe, look at the sky, look at the sky, elle, let's give thanks right now.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you, god, universe source, for this beautiful sky and just tuning into all of the wonder of life and just the smallest little pieces.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I think so often we as human beings, especially adults, are just so in our heads where we're thinking so much but we're not actually communicating it or speaking it out loud.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: And there's so much of spiritual thoughts that we could share with our kids.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That would just be so profound to them.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: And one of the things I wish I would have done is I felt earlier on like my daughter had to be a certain age before she experienced sound bowl healings and yoga and just all this different stuff and they get to a point I really thought I've got her for 18 years.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: This is going to be great.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: When she's 14, we'll start doing a lot more and I'll integrate her into more.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: But by that time they have so much of their own interests and I really think that those earlier years, between two and 10, are the greatest times to be teaching them along the way and doing spiritual practices with them, whether it's deep breathing to center themselves when they're upset, or just sound bowl healings, to like on YouTube, to shift the mood in the house and the energy, these little things of praying at night or even.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not a religious person, just spiritual.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: But there's an energy to the truth and the wisdom behind religious practices and prayer is really an energetic practice.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So when we pray on our food, right Like just pray for God, universe source, to nourish the food and nourish our body with it, what if it opens up the cells more?
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: What if the cells really tune into the good nutrients more?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: What if our bodies absorb more?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I think that we have to reframe a lot to see things from an energetic point of view, and when we do that, so much will shift.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: That's wonderful.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: And taking that moment to teach them the connection too, to teach them how to connect, how to slow down, how to be present and putting any devices away, I think is a huge one.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: That I hear a lot and I never think about it because we don't have our devices out very much at home, but taking that time to connect with them.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: We do the sound.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: We have a little Tibetan sound bowl and my kids love to do it when we come home from school and we're eating snack as a way to just reset the day and to cleanse ourselves and renew.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: So we love that one.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: And also I love sharing with people.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I love to do guided meditations, like very little ones, for my kids in whatever they're into.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: So for my son he's really into orcas right now, so we do a little guided meditation like a one minute, just picturing you can use the waves for your breathing and talking about the orca and what he's seeing in you and things like that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So I love finding what they're into and then doing a little meditation with that when they're young.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, that is so fun.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I have been working with chat, gbt and AI tools since they first came out a couple of years ago, and I'm a writer by nature.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I have been in writing classes and writing since I was like 13, 14 years old, and I'm a writer by nature.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I have been in writing classes and writing since I was like 13, 14 years old, and I'm a wordsmith.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I like to change things up, so I don't love it to just copy and paste what they create for you, but I think it's actually going to become such an incredible tool for parents to use and for anybody like meditations.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: So if your kids love pandas, you could go in to chat GBT, which is a free tool right now, or Google's Gemini and type give me a two minute meditation that includes pandas for kids age.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it'll spit out a meditation that you can just gently walk them through and really there's no more safety and security than your child hearing your own voice.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So I think that's something incredible, keri, that you've stumbled upon.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that idea of using chat, GPT as a tool to help you get there, because it can be hard.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: If you're not a teacher by trade.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: It can be hard to come up with those in the moment, I'm sure.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: So I love that idea.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: That's so powerful.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you raising kids who are so gifted, spirited, highly sensitive, it can feel really challenging at times and it can feel lonely.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: That's why I started Heart to Heart Parents.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: It can feel like when we shut the door, everything looks normal on the outside, but when we close the door it can be hard sometimes inside.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Is there anything that you would say to these parents who are starting to realize that these challenges are moments for us to grow, blossom, learn, heal and start to raise our energy and to be more conscious and more?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: It can be an opportunity for spiritual awakenings.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: And what would you say on this area?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, because I have always been a person who's I always feel like I'm bad or wrong or like other people are doing it better.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Do you ever feel that way?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, 100% Okay.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So I really feel that what you can gain out of parenting is this, and from reading just thousands and thousands upon thousands of spiritual books, this is what I know for certain that we all have a stream of consciousness and you can think about it in this place, earth realm.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: It's a linear, like it is a plus B plus C.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: We're going through the alphabet linearly, but nobody really wants to go through that process of evolving our consciousness.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Most people want the game shoots and ladders, where you just get these ladders and these shortcuts to just bypass certain steps and find the secret and move there.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: There really is a stream of thought and you're never bad or wrong.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: You are always exactly where you're supposed to be.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: There are so many different types of tools out there.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I'm really protective of my community because I see so many spiritual teachers leading people down a path.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want them to go and I like to do things differently to keep people in a safe space.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: So I've got a membership where we go through a new course every month and we get together every Wednesday night as a group and it's so much fun to be in community, all of us learning about the same thing.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: In each Wednesday night we practice different exercises, different spiritual tools, so that all year long you're gaining new tools that you can practice during the week and try and see if it resonates.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Spiritual tools are like this you take what works in your tool bag and what doesn't resonate does it's not for you.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: It might not be bad or wrong, it's just not for you.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: So you go through life accumulating all of the spiritual tools that really do work for you.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: You don't have to use all of them every single day, but then you have them when something comes up so that you can fall back on it in life and you don't really spiral downward into this hole anymore.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: You find ways to keep yourself above ground and with a stronger foundation.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: That's wonderful, yes, staying connected and having your toolbox ready, because even if you're Julie Jancis, you still have your human moments right.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: You still have to practice it and come back to it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: That's wonderful.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: You have a program like that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you one last question about empowering our kids, and is there anything that you would have told younger Julie when she was going through her ADHD moments and growing up?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Is there anything you would tell younger Julie or kids of today going through this?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: What's really interesting is my mom, I think, was very highly ADHD as well, and maybe even a little autistic, and yet she lived with two people my grandparents, who met in the military, who wanted things to be so regimented, like the military, and so as an ADHD kid, she had to learn survival in that very strict environment.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: So when she was raising me, she didn't know how to raise me any different except in this strict environment, and so I completely rebelled against that and I felt like everything that she was saying was like I was bad or wrong or I'm doing things bad and wrong, and it really drove me to work harder and achieve more to prove that I'm not bad or wrong.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And so the number one thing that I would say for parents raising a child with ADD or ADHD is to really understand shame, is to really understand shame.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Shame spiritual teachers have studied this scientifically it is the lowest vibration.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of us feel that hate would be the lowest vibration, or fear.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: They're not.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Shame is the lowest vibration.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: So when you don't know and you don't have the tools of how to communicate with another being in a non-shaming way, what ends up happening is you, as the parent, who's supposed to keep your kids in a safe space ends up really being the person who makes them feel most unsafe and most insecure.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: When you shame another person, what it does is it activates the root chakra.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Before COVID, when I would work on people energetically in my readings, I would only feel the root chakra activated in maybe 1% of people to 3% of people.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: It's really shifted a lot as our society has shifted and we're so like against one another and there's just so much divisiveness.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of shame floating around right now.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: So, if you can learn what shame is and not, and how not to say it, what you're going to be doing is keeping your children in really their heart chakra or above, which is where we want their energy to be.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: When you come at them in a shaming way, though, you're really going below the heart chakra, into some inner child stuff that's going to come up and stay there.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: You're going to go into the root chakra and your kids are going to start to fight against you because they have to as primal human beings.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Even more than our home, having a roof over our head, having food, having water, safety and security is the number one thing to our own energetics.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Thing to our own energetics.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: If you don't have that, you're not allowing the other person to be a human being.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: So if you can just start there at learning about shame honestly, there's so many local counselors who know shame very well.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of going into counseling offices and asking them how would you work with this?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: What is your expertise on this?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: How often do you read books?
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I want to know that.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to see a good counselor, because 50% are awful and you have to find a counselor who's really going to help you and your family.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: So interview them.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: It is your right to interview them and find the right one.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Find somebody that can help you learn how to say things in non-shaming ways.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: The other thing that the angels are saying that coincides with that is if you have a lot of shame within you that might've been put on by your parents or friends or ex in the past, that's going to be something that's really hard for you, so you almost have to work through your own shame in order to be able to treat people with love and not shame them, even unintentionally.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, yes.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Shame is such a huge piece, especially also for our highly sensitive kids.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Even just small corrections can sometimes look so intense for them.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: So have you heard of rejection sensitivity disorder?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: No, I haven't heard of that one.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, so most kids with ADD and ADHD also are so highly empathic, so highly sensitive, that they have rejection sensitivity disorder, which means that when you say things to a normal person, go do this or oh my God, I can't believe you got a bad grade on this.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe it hurt like hits a neurotypical person I don't mean to say normal person, person, I don't mean to say normal person maybe a two, a three or a four out of 10, you say that to a kid with ADD or ADHD and they can feel it 11, 12, 13, 15 on a scale of 10, especially with friendship stuff too that comes up.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: They're constantly in their own head about it, and helping them understand that rejection sensitivity disorder with a counselor can be very beneficial in helping that child understand how to navigate the world and that not everybody is going to hold them in a safe space Not everybody, not all things are equal.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Can I say one more thing?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, please.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: A lot of people with ADD and ADHD have this belief in a just world that if you're like, if you're just a good enough person, if you're just do good in this world, then other people will do good to you.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: And some people say, oh, if something bad happened to you, then it was your karma, right, like you must have done something that brought that karma on you.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: No, we have to completely get rid of that notion.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: That is not true at all.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: The truth is, all of us come in here with a blank karmic slate.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Every human soul on earth has free will to do whatever they please, and if somebody goes to the bar one night and drinks more than they should, they know that they're doing wrong.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: They're doing that of their own free will, and you're in the car, or somebody's in the car, and something happens.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: There's nothing that you did to bring that on.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: So a lot of kids have this belief that if something bad is happening to them, it's because they did something wrong, because they've been good, and so they strive to be good and perfect, even adults.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I find this in most adults as well.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: But when you reframe and that everybody has free will and you might not have done anything wrong whatsoever but it's not a fair and just world, that everybody has their own free will and sometimes that hurts other people.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: That's the perspective that we need to be coming from and understanding and helping our kids understand too, so that they understand their place in the world and we understand our role in it too.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Wow, I love it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Julie, I love this rejection sensitivity disorder.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going to bring that up with our occupational therapist, who does somatic therapy as well.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's another place to target and think about.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: So thank you.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: So many great tools.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for all of this information and I love the program you shared and Angels and Awakening podcast has been such a blessing for me and listening and my kids loved your kids one you did too, oh good.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, I so appreciate you.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much for being here with us.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: We genuinely enjoy your time.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, yeah.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: If anybody wants to find me, they can go over to theangelmediumcom or angel podcast at angel podcast Perfect.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for sharing and I'll include it in our show notes as well.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Thank you, carrie.
• 41:13
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• 41:15
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