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Patriots Unfiltered 1/27: Evaluating the 2021 Rookie Class, Importance of 2022 Draft for Patriots, Conference Championship Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Team other than the Patriots lost in overtime,
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  Speaker 1: so we gotta change the overtime rules. Now, I don't
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  Speaker 1: really understand the Patriots role in this. If the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: had been victim of this, no one would care about
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  Speaker 1: changing the rule. Kansas petition the league to change it. Right,
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  Speaker 1: But now again, wouldn't this have to do with the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't a Patriots team that lost, So again there's an uproar.
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  Speaker 1: We have to change. Mike, Thats what I'm saying. Since
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  Speaker 1: they change, since they change overtime. Yeah, that's a good
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  Speaker 1: cruiit of you. Hey, sorry, Mike d Literally, there's nowhere
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  Speaker 1: else I would want to live, least them there. They
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  Speaker 1: have like black widows and Tarantula's right. You make a
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  Speaker 1: great offer, Mark Davids, the tarantulas that just like can't
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  Speaker 1: overcome that drip. Yeah, you have never heard of that.
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  Speaker 1: I have not. Okay, Paul wrote the story last week.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta get fast, you need speed. We're not going
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  Speaker 1: to at this is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right,
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  Speaker 1: welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It's Thursday here Atgelette Stadium, and
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  Speaker 1: for those of us who live in this area, we're
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  Speaker 1: getting ready for a big snowstorm Saturday. Oh yeah, get
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  Speaker 1: your shovel muscles ready, Norrista. Yeah, my arrand snowblowers still
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  Speaker 1: in the shop. Not good, Bob. They said they would
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  Speaker 1: be five weeks out. It's called the Village Lawnmower Shop.
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  Speaker 1: They work three days a week. Literally, It's like maybe
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  Speaker 1: if you work five days a week, you can get
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  Speaker 1: things done. Dare I say six? Like everybody? Right? You
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  Speaker 1: know in that kind of business they do nothing but snowblowers.
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  Speaker 1: Is they gonna take some five it's the name. But
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  Speaker 1: you know this time of year, yeah, this time of year.
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  Speaker 1: If you want your lawnmower fix, you could get it tomorrow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but this is snowblower season, right, So anyway I'll be shoveling.
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  Speaker 1: What's the back Yeah, once you hire one of the
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  Speaker 1: shovel you know, they're always people walking around, like looking
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  Speaker 1: for a little bit. I need the exercise. Plo plows
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  Speaker 1: and mos go on the app. Yeah. Yeah, we had
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  Speaker 1: a kid in our neighborhood, go around put like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's an app, Yeah plows and mos kid going around
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  Speaker 1: our neighborhood and you can get people to come and
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  Speaker 1: do it. Okay, we can have our own conversation. I
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  Speaker 1: downloaded the app, but I've never used I can. I
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  Speaker 1: can handle it, That's what I say. I could do
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  Speaker 1: it myself. There's like some little like fourth grade or
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  Speaker 1: going around putting like like things like hey, I'll shovel
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  Speaker 1: you and like our driveways long, and I'm like, he's
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  Speaker 1: like twenty bucks. I'm like, it would be like torturous
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  Speaker 1: if I came twenty bucks and try to make him
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  Speaker 1: do our whole child. I know, I know the dad
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  Speaker 1: was like walking around with him. I don't think the
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  Speaker 1: dad was like making them do it. It It had all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of different stuff like chop wood and like this
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  Speaker 1: kid's like eleven chopping wood outside. You were a kid,
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  Speaker 1: did you shovel driveways? Well? Probably not in the suburb,
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  Speaker 1: you know? No? No, well you had someone go around
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  Speaker 1: the neighborhood and do it for you. No, no, I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do. I remember shoveling my driveway to the Rocky
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  Speaker 1: for soundtrack, which is a great shoveling soundtrack if you
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  Speaker 1: need one. But no. When I was twelve, my dad
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  Speaker 1: came home one day. We're down the cape and he said,
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  Speaker 1: guess what I got your job at the marsh side.
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  Speaker 1: I would mow the lawn there, pick up cigarette butts,
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  Speaker 1: walk around that and they give me like ten bucks
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  Speaker 1: in and he gets free food. Yeah right right, but
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  Speaker 1: that was mine. That was my first job. But I
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  Speaker 1: never went around the hood. I thought everybody had their
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  Speaker 1: own kids to do it, and we always did it. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mowed lawns a little bit. I never mowed lawns. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My worst one was mister Keys. He had this like
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  Speaker 1: big house by the water, and actually my friend had
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  Speaker 1: the job and he said, I don't want to do
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  Speaker 1: it anymore, so he gave me the job. This guy,
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  Speaker 1: I had to use two different lawnmowers, one for the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the grass and then another one another one
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  Speaker 1: for the edge that he wanted a separate lawnmore. I
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  Speaker 1: mean this guy like when he wanted his lawn moode,
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  Speaker 1: he called you up, you gotta get down here. It
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  Speaker 1: just rain, it's dry, get down here. What would he
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  Speaker 1: give you, like a shining nickel or no he was.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't like it. You know, I forget how much
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  Speaker 1: it was at the time. You know, back then twenty
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  Speaker 1: dollars was worth a thousands, so I don't know twenty
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  Speaker 1: forget about it. Yeah, yeah, it's a babysitting. It's that
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  Speaker 1: and I'll the easy go sit there for three hours
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  Speaker 1: like Charles and charge pretty much. Yeah. I never baby
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  Speaker 1: said that. Yeah I didn't. Yeah, I never did that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need that. It's easy. Although it's easy, I
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  Speaker 1: accompanied on a lot of beatings baby your girlfriends. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if you know, I know that one all right, kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the next generation of never mind easy. So
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  Speaker 1: we're getting ready for the conference championships this weekend. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait for that great game. Yeah. I have a
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  Speaker 1: hard time thinking that it's gonna live up to last
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  Speaker 1: week's hype. Yeah, it's gonna be you know, that's a
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  Speaker 1: lot to live up to. Yeah, but you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm still gonna watch obviously, Oh for sure. Well, Sunday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have our picks later in the show. What we
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  Speaker 1: think got a hurry? Yeah, not really. Yeah. Um, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of you know, coaching carousel news that have
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  Speaker 1: been Tuesday reported, Yes, Yeah, Matt Ebery Nathaniel Hackett to
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos. Yeah, and now Nathaniel Hackett is the offensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator for the Packers, so obviously, um, some people are thinking, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we always bring this around to how it might impact
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots, and that would be a negative impact for
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers could go over to Denver
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  Speaker 1: and maybe he brings Davante Adams with him, who knows, well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they don't even need Yeah, they got some
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  Speaker 1: good pieces. It's I mean, aside from the Patriots, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's fun to think about twice a year, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm facing Kansas City if that were to happen, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if they would definitely give Kansas City a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a that'll be a hell of a conference. Yeah, Herbert,
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  Speaker 1: how do you live so happy? Division? How could you
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  Speaker 1: possibly spin that as a good thing? Right? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Adding Aaron Rodgers in another good team in the conference?
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  Speaker 1: These Kansas City will have a maybe they give him
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  Speaker 1: a couple of losses and Brady to the ray there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because didn't they buy something out there? J
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  Speaker 1: Zell and Tom didn't in Vegas? Yeah, didn't they? Whenn't
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  Speaker 1: there were a rumor that they had bought like a
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  Speaker 1: big thing out in Vegas a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was a rumor about that, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure that that ever was from what I understand,
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  Speaker 1: they have property everywhere. It was a you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was a real estate guy in Vegas that said that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: through Megan used to be our real estate news correspondent. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I thought anyway. So, oh, breaking news on
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  Speaker 1: an Oh Nope, it's just a commercial, all right. Uh so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that that could be interesting. I do think it's issually too.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to Paul. You know a number of
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  Speaker 1: Patriots opponents next year getting getting new coaches. I mean
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  Speaker 1: the Bears with eb Yeah, the Packers obviously that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be going through some turnover, not not at
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  Speaker 1: the head coach position, but the Steelers going through some turnover.
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  Speaker 1: The Vikings just hired a new coach. Dolphins will be
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  Speaker 1: So did they the Viking did they or are they
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  Speaker 1: having any hired? The GM They haven't hired the coach.
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  Speaker 1: But who the heir is? Jam that guy with the
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  Speaker 1: three names three names from Cleveland, three names, Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland guy, Yeah, yeah, him and it looks like Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: is in a a tugo war with with Byron Leftwich,
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  Speaker 1: who wants the job but says you got to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of Trent Bulky, and he wants Adrian Wilson former
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals briefly briefly for spell here. Yeah, he wants put
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  Speaker 1: a Patriot uniform on. Never actually played in that group, right, um,
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  Speaker 1: But he wants Adrian Wilson to be the GM for
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  Speaker 1: the Jags, and he says it's you know that it's
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  Speaker 1: taken or leave it. Yeah, so according to reports, so
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  Speaker 1: some stuff going on around the league. Yeah, as far
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  Speaker 1: as we know, no Patriots people are leaving. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: not yeah, not yet. Seems like everything that happens points
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  Speaker 1: more to Elliott Wolf staying. Mayo McDaniels, I mean all
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  Speaker 1: it seems it seems like the jobs are kind of
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  Speaker 1: trying up quick. I mean selfishly. Yeah, absolutely for us.
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  Speaker 1: I think I mean, you think, you know, I feel
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  Speaker 1: bad for you know, maybe Mayo because he's been outspoken
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  Speaker 1: saying he wants the job. But and people still continue
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  Speaker 1: to tie Brian Dable to the Giants from Buffalo after
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  Speaker 1: the Yeah, I saw him to the Dolphins too. I
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  Speaker 1: mean you just see these random tweets. I think everybody's
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  Speaker 1: looking at the Giants from because the Bill's, uh, what's
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  Speaker 1: the costume? Yeah, yeah, shown, Yeah, yeah, Shane. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's Shane Shane. Yeah, he got the job for the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: So everybody's you know, connecting the dots, much like um,
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  Speaker 1: the mental gymnastics that you have to do to wonder
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  Speaker 1: if maybe Aaron Rodgers might be interested in Denver with
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  Speaker 1: his former offensive coordinator getting that that head coach job.
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  Speaker 1: It's a stretch, it's a stretch. But here's one. You know,
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  Speaker 1: everyone assumes that the forty nine ers, whatever happens, they're
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  Speaker 1: not they're gonna move on from Garoppolo and people, Oh
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  Speaker 1: could Brady could go in to forty nine ers? Why
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  Speaker 1: couldn't Rogers be going to forty nine ers. He's a
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  Speaker 1: coast guy, he could. And I don't think whatever happens
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  Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers, they're gonna move on from.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you don't think so. I don't think it's gonna ask.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's I mean what I tell you,
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  Speaker 1: they won't. I'm just saying I don't think no matter
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  Speaker 1: what happened, tell me how they want was it because
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  Speaker 1: of Jimmy or despite Jimmy. Well, and then I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you if they're gonna move on. All I said, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily a done deal that they're moving on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I think it. I thought it was crazy
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  Speaker 1: enough to do what they did last year. Now you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna double down. He did it again, and you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna move on from him. Yeah, Like I
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  Speaker 1: think you already saw the sort of flaw in their plan,
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  Speaker 1: Like they don't win games when he doesn't play right. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that just just means that who's behind him is even worse.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that he's the reason they're winning. No,
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  Speaker 1: but it makes you And they've won a lot of games, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't the reason they wont on Sunday or whatever
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  Speaker 1: they play Saturday. I mean, whenever I watched he he
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  Speaker 1: was not good. And he seems to like it's like
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  Speaker 1: give and take with him. He'll give you stuff in
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  Speaker 1: the game and then he'll take it away, like he
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  Speaker 1: did not play well and that game. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how much he's got potentially two games left, how much
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  Speaker 1: does that effect? Like could he win the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: theoretically and they're like, see, yeah, you know it's happened.
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  Speaker 1: They still want I don't care, I do. I think
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  Speaker 1: it takes a lot to pull the plug on a
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  Speaker 1: guy who took you to two Super Bowls in three
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  Speaker 1: years and won one of them. Eventually they got to
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  Speaker 1: go to this guy that they drafted in the first round,
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  Speaker 1: right right, right, yeah, right, and your rank Yeah, unless
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  Speaker 1: they trade him. I mean, I think I think good
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: teams could make bad picks and instead of just forcing
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  Speaker 1: it and compounding it, they recognize we made a bad pick. Well,
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: how do they know until they play him? Uh? Have
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  Speaker 1: his play his winning super Bowls? That's how you know?
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  Speaker 1: You know again you know the definition of he's winning
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  Speaker 1: super Bowls? You know, I don't know. You can fall
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  Speaker 1: into that trap and just say anybody can win, but
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  Speaker 1: when he didn't play, they lose. That's not what I said. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I am not a huge Jimmy Garoppolo fan, never have
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  Speaker 1: been as at the player, not the person, but I him.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm also I'm being objected. I think he's very average. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I am a fact. The fact of the matter is
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  Speaker 1: when he plays, they win at an alarming rate. When
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't play, they lose at the same alarming rate.
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  Speaker 1: I know. But is that because I'm saying it's coming
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  Speaker 1: because the guy, anybody that they put in instead of him,
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  Speaker 1: is even worse. You tell me, yeah, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if they don't if they win despite him, right, let
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  Speaker 1: me ask you would think that anybody could go in
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  Speaker 1: and win? You get about the performance was right? When
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  Speaker 1: you watch him play, maybe he has a little more
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  Speaker 1: to do with the wins than we And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying you, I'm saying we give him credit. When you
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  Speaker 1: see him play, what do you see? I see an
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  Speaker 1: average cornerback? Okay, and are you if you're the is
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  Speaker 1: that a guy that you would stick with and extend
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  Speaker 1: his contract? If? I if they don't have to extend it,
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  Speaker 1: I think they would have to one more year. Yeah,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: they don't have to extend it. They could play him
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  Speaker 1: out another year. Yeah you want to keep doing that?
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  Speaker 1: You know they haven't kept doing it. They signed him
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  Speaker 1: to one contract. This is it. I know it has
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  Speaker 1: another year on it. Yeah, it's not continuing to do anything. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So if you have a chance to bring in Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers or Tom Brady, that's that's that's a different thing. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's an upgrade. Aaron Rodgers thing is an upgrade. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but if you're going to go to it, like Paul says,
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  Speaker 1: to a guy who whoever's behind him, who doesn't win
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  Speaker 1: as many games, you're doing your teamer. Listen, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that if I'm the forty nine is I'm not
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  Speaker 1: getting rid of Jimmy unless I have something better to
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  Speaker 1: turn to, and that includes what I think of my
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  Speaker 1: first round pick. If I think he's gonna be good, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a viable option. But that's the only reason why
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  Speaker 1: I said that. I don't think it's a done deal
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  Speaker 1: that no matter what happens, Garoppolo's gone. If you're telling
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  Speaker 1: me Garoppolo is gone, they're getting Rodgers. Absolutely, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: do that. Rogers says, I keep at you guys in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, so I might as well join you. You You know,
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: I try to learn Deuce into these things. He never
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  Speaker 1: like jumps in. Maybe I had maybe I can get
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  Speaker 1: deuce on my side, and he just like sits on
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  Speaker 1: the side one because I don't think you're on an
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  Speaker 1: opposite side. Yeah, I don't know. This was this nebulous
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  Speaker 1: where it's like I don't know are they went in
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  Speaker 1: because of him or not because of I haven't watched
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  Speaker 1: enough forty nine Ers games to really have Necessarily, it's
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good quarterback. I think it's just it would
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  Speaker 1: be a weird situation where you win the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: with a guy and then you say, all right, we're
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  Speaker 1: just gonna move on. You know, we're gonna move on
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  Speaker 1: right now. Um So I if I had seen more
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  Speaker 1: and I had, you know, a bigger opinion on Jimmy Garoppolo.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean that you can't deny they could potentially
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  Speaker 1: go to two super Bowls and three years with him,
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  Speaker 1: and I think people make it out like Trent Dilfer, Yeah,
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: well the Ravens moved on from Trento. Yeah, No, that's
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  Speaker 1: not what Garoppolo was doing. Like, let's not put him
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  Speaker 1: in that category. And he also Garoppolo has one over
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  Speaker 1: a span of years. Like Garoppolo's problem is he can't
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  Speaker 1: stay health right, not that he can't play. I think
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: his other problem is he makes mistakes within games. He
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: does and doesn't just out of curiosity at key moments. No, see,
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  Speaker 1: it's the opposite. Yeah, and key moments is when that's
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  Speaker 1: the only time he played well the other day when
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: they were on the line on third and eleven when
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: he when he hit kittled. That's that's the key moment
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  Speaker 1: right now. You could argue they were lucky to have
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: a key moment based on the way he played the
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  Speaker 1: first and again he was terrible. We're not there, We
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: don't cover the team, so we just hear things. But
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  Speaker 1: what about the narrative that the coaches don't trust them,
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: they don't trust, they don't trust they stay healthy. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's the narrative. No, it's not just that it's his
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  Speaker 1: decision making within games. They don't trust him with the game.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see that, That's what I've heard. Yeah, I said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't see that, right, I don't see it. I
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  Speaker 1: watched them play at you know, in the snow the
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  Speaker 1: other day and on third downs, you know they got
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: in field goal range by throwing. Now, Debo made the
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: big play on the last third down to melt the
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: clock out. That was a third and seven that they
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: checked into. Where did you read all about that stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Like evidently they had this masters stroke because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you know, but Shanahan's pretty spell. Yeah, he
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: checked into a run called a time out at the
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: last second and changed it to a run. So maybe
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: that's why people are anyway he doesn't trust them. No,
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  Speaker 1: it was a specific play, but they threw the ball
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  Speaker 1: on that drive to get into field goal. I think
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Jimmy has a lot of talent. I really do. And
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I am a fan of jim think he's okay. But
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: the more I watch him, the more I'm like, I
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: see what people are saying. It's like, you know, the
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: he knew, I mean he was bad, and that he
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: makes risky throws. Yeah, he made a lot of risky throws. Yea.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: But when it's time underneath to debo or you know, Kittle,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you know, he finds his stride. But I just I
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: wonder how this whole I mean, last year we spent
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: so much time on the quarterback Carolsell, remember that last year?
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Probably not the Patriots, But is it going to be
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: this year even more crazy with all the veterans coming
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: in with Rogers and Wilson and you know, how does
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: the how does the forty one see that Watson forgot
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: about the one? I mean, I think this year could
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: be even more you know, crazy, because last years to
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: seem like the teams they need a quarback draft to
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks and got him. That was last year movement. Those
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: guys really weren't They really weren't available, Yeah, just speculation.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Wilson and Rogers were like laying the groundwork, but they
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: really weren't available. Now I think those teams, especially green Bay,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: obviously they realize we got to do something. Yeah, And
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I think there's a chance. I don't know what's going
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: on in Seattle. It's been quiet in Seattle. It was
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: supposed to be all kinds of meetings with even Pete
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Carroll wasn't necessarily a certainty to come back. And now
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: we haven't really heard much what's going on with the Seahawks.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: But I think that's a huge one because green Bay
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Wilson is still in his prime. Yeah, you know that
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: thirty one. Yeah, he's got some years left. Yes. And
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: in green Bay, if Rogers does Ley, do they just
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: turn to Jordan Love or are they looking for somebody better?
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, is there a situation below
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Rogers switch? Does Adam Adams definitely say is it a
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: full blow up there? I mean he's not, I mean
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I would be shocked. He stays it's just so many
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Green Bay, Seattle, Pittsburgh, these teams that have been you know,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: really cement over the last couple of years. And just
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: in terms of the NFL Iron, what was that schedule
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that you talked about with the Patriots. Did you not
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: realize that the Patriots are playing the Packers next year? Oh?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: They are? Yeah, this is why isn't working out for
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: the Patriots again out a couple of weeks ago and
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I'm still trying to get can't judge a schedule until
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: they find their quarterback and the season right, But it's true.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of a lot of uncertainty
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: of what kind of you know, I mean, in the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: last ten years, if you saw those two teams, you
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: kind of knew what you were getting. And now who
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: knows who's going to be quarterback of either of those teams?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: And you know, are they kind of in a reset mode?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: It's uh, that know, it's a lot of questions. That's
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: what makes it, you know, to his credit, you know,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: a good credit when credit is dude, Rogers did say
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I need to make this, you know, a quick decision,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you know, in respect to the team and Davante and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: other people, And I get that. Now Brady hasn't said
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: this same thing, like he's gonna muddle it over. But
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: if I'm the Bucks, I'm like, yeah, what are we doing?
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: We got a draft, we got free agency? What are
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: you doing? But you know, but I think Brady Brady
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: is not in the same situation. Brady didn't say he's
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: thinking about retiring, you know whatever and all that stuff.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's uncertainty around him. Well he's that's just
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: natural for a forty four year old quarter No, I know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: but he said he needs to think about it. And
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: you know, but he says he hasn't thought about retiring.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: He said he hasn't he hasn't set those words, He
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: hasn't said those words. But he's has come as close
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: to saying those words as I've ever heard him. And
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: we yeah, and we read those quotes on Friday, right,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm on Tuesday, and I agree. I think
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: there's a there's a chance that he goes. But I
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: also think that there's a chance that Tampa Bay knows
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: a lot more than the public does. Yeah. She already
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: posted that tweet of Brady from twenty nineteen here and
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: kind of relation to that I was striking to me
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: just how down he seemed like. I guess I've gotten
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: away from a little bit. I don't know if that
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: season you were used to it, but seeing that video
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: that he posted where it was the same kind of
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: thing talking about family and you know it. But it
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: was just striking to me after seeing kind of like
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: carefree Tampa Bay Tom for a couple of years, to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: go back to that Tom and be like, wow, he
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: really seemed unhappy, not really. You remember the post game
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: from the Philly game, The Miserable. I mean that was
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: as miserable as ever seen a quarterback after a win. Yeah,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: they won the game. I mean it wasn't pretty, but
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: they won, and he was like he looked like they
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: had just gotten blown out. Yeah, well that's why. You know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: if things aren't going he wears them on his sleeves,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: so you know, he just lost that game. So I
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: can understand the whole thing. But you know, to me,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: this time, it seemed a little bit more leaning toward
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: this could be real. I agree with you, Freddy, I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: thought it was different. Yeah, but on your show yesterday
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: they were making fun of it when it's like a
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: little bit like, yeah, you know, one week, one week
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: after dropping off the kids and all that, and you'll
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: be wishing you were back playing. And I kind of
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: like, like like, let's see how much time, like if he
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: does retire, how much time he actually spends with it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I listened to Paul Show yesterday with Felger and he
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: had a rant about Brady and like you get six
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: months it was. It was awesome. I mean, you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: it's it's a damn classic down but but you know
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: he's not wrong, like really like, yeah, you travel one
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: day like he's gonna be all over the place with
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: TV twel you know, like you're gonna bring your kids
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: with you all over the ways. Yeah, yeah, they were.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: They were funny with that. What do you think he
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: would live if he did retire? Like what would be
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: their main residence? What place? That's a good question. Would
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: it be New York? You think you think? I would think? So?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: They lived in LA for a while, and I don't
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think she liked that. Yeah, I think new
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: York might be a possibility, But who knows. They have,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: like you said, they have property everywhere. I know, like
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: what if it's not here? But what if she says,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I want to go back to like, to me, the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: two factus about where they live, right, you know, to
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: me this time where they live? Where are we doing?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Is this? Or what's best for the kids? You know?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: So where would be New York? Yeah, put him in
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a private school. But even his even his son um Jack, right,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the oldest one, you know, to be maybe he wants
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to be a little bit closer. She's in New York. Yeah,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and what I think, So he's getting old though, I
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: mean he's probably gonna be going you know, he's not
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a little kid as much anymore. I mean that that
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: was part of it. But uh, I don't know. Is
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: he gonna go back to the cold environment too. I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Mean it's funny because it's like, do they really need
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: to put down roots? They can literally live there in
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the summer and go to Florida in the winter. Oh yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: but like what's best for the kids. But yeah, but
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: that's not Yeah, that's not ideal for kids. Just get
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a tutor who cares, you get money, Wow, do what
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: you gotta do. Yesterday it was like, you can't live
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. That's what that's what he's gonna do
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: an he retires. It's like he's gonna start teaching the
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: math and science physics. I love the gazelle Dragson to
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Brazil for I love that story. Costa Rica. That's right,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: because it's in between I think that's old Bres Central America.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Like that's where he retires. That's what you know what,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: it's all old Brady. They go to Costa Rica and
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: to be left alone on the beach. Picture of them
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: like eating lunch with him and Roth. Now I want
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you all to enjoy your cake? Is there avocado? And
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: so enjoy all right? Eight five five Passive un a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: sticket hot line web radio at Patriots dot com is
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the email address. As you can tell, anything's on the table. Uh,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: we're we're on the couch watching now Patriots are out
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: of it, so we're just spectators. Um, so it's all
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: on the table, everything big offseason. Yeah, pat per Re, Oh,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I like that. All right, So let's turn it over
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to the listeners because we've got a hurry because we've
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: got our picks that we have to make later. Um,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Vinny's in Vegas. What's up, Vinny? Hey, Vinny, do you
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: check your shoes in the morning for Tarantula's Hey, listen.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I actually one of the reasons why I want to
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: call you is I want to stop this slander about Vegas.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: That all right, you know I have I've been in
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Vegas twelve years now. My wife was actually born and
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: raised here. I have three little kids from you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: thirteen to six, and I think Vegas is as good
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: as any other place. I mean, are you in Henderson, No,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I actually live in I live I live in the Southwest, Okay,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: so I'm about probably about ten minutes from the Strip
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: from here. But you know, there's a lot of a lot,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: a lot more than Vegas than used the stripped. I
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: mean we we've been to the Strip since I've been here,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you know, since I move officially here probably I don't know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: six times, yeah, in twelve years. And so there's you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: there's there's not much you see once you've seen it,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: you know, and then obviously you can't gamble too much
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: because then we live here. Then you sure broke right, Yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But I mean it is true though. You go in
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the supermarket and they have slot machines, right, because I've
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: been there, I know, oh yeah, not only not only
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the supermarkets, but also on yeah airport. Yeah, they're everywhere
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the airport. And it is true. You have tarantula's right,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: this tarantulas snakes, you know, not really tarantulas. But we
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: have is we have a scort, scorpion, scorpions, scorpions. That's
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: what I that's actually what I meant with scorpions. That's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: that's the same. Yeah, we do that, a scorpions. It's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: only on some places where some places where what well,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you get a palm trees. They like the palm trees.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, And what about the black widows? Because I
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: was out there once, I was jogging and there was
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: this boat and there was this big spider weapon. I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: went up and they, sure enough, right in the middle
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: of it was this big black widow. Spiders freaked me out. Yeah,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: like a liberty mutual commercials get. But those are not
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you know, those are not as big of an issue though.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: We we that's pretty much all we have to deal with.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Though we don't have raccoons or snakes or bears or
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: bring anything else. You don't have snakes, rattlesnakes. You get
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: rattle snakes. Then the deaths are very rarely actually too hot,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, Hey, I do have I do have
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a I want to I know, I don't want you
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: guys to go to the rabbit hole again on the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: whole overtime, but I do have a I guess a suggestion,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you know, since what we're doing that yesterday. Um my
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: suggestion is you give you know, an extra quarter fifteen minutes.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Each team has seven and a half minutes, and if
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: you don't score, you turn the ball over to the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: other team, right, so they both actually can possess the ball.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: If by the time the that quarter is over, nobody
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: has scored, then at that point you start kicking field
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: goals you don't and what you do is you make
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: it more difficult, right, so you start at the thirty
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: yard line if you don't, you know, and then both
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I don't like that. Yeah, I don't mean even the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: kickers putting it in that just the hands of the kicker.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I don't like that. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: like that. Now, how you go? That's how soccer in Oh,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, but at least soccer it's not
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: just like soccer. It's five different players and there and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: if it's still tied, they keep using other players. But
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: now it's all on the shoulders of one player. You know,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that is true, That is true. Yeah, I just have
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: one more thing if you guys, um just about the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: rebuilding of the team. You know. My my thing is
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I think the offense is it's okay, not great, but
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's okay. If you get another weapon, then
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you might be able to you know, maybe a wide
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: receiver one or something like that. But I do think
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: you need to get get rid of your linebackers. They're
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: they're old, they're you know, they're slow. Get rid of
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: all of them, you know, high power even I will
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: even get rid of Bentley, you know, van Noy, and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: then get yourself a corner. And I think you need
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to let go of my forty. I think with Phillips
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and and Dugger, I think you can just do things.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: You know, not my opinion on that. Okay, all right, Vinnie,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Yeah, Duke, how do we feel about
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: who the who returns? Just in terms of who retires
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and who doesn't want to retire? And I'm saying who
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: the Patriots resigned? But do you think Dante high Tower retires?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Do you think Devin mccordy retires. I think mccordy stays
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I think High Tower leaves, Yeah, yeah, leaves but doesn't retire.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I think like plays somewhere else. I think if he stays,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: they're going to ask him to take a haircut and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna do it. Yeah, yeah, you're probably right. Well, yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I mean he's I think he'll retire in High Tower.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I think mccordy wants to still play. I'm not sure
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: where we'll play. Yeah, yeah, I think it's tough to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: bring him back with that contract because of the way
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: they set it up. Well, again, if he's you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: are you assuming that he wouldn't be willing to do
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: something to stay mccordy, like, what take you know, take
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: a little less? Okay, but whatever you pay him less,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you still have to pay him extra on the cap
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: because of the way you did those void years. Oh yeah,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you mean dead money. Yeah yeah, yeah, a couple of
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: years worth. And I'm not saying that that won't happen
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: because I don't think it'll cost you a tremendous munk.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: But I also don't think he's interested in playing for nothing. Yeah,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you think Bill feels about losing
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: potentially Slater mccordy, High Tower Collins, you know, not the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Collins is really a locker room leader. But I just
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I wonder, what, what what's the importance he puts on
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that kind of continuity, even if it's slowing down, puts
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a lot on it. I need that leadership does too,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you know. And that's why usually with those kinds of things, Mike,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you know you rattle off three, four, five names, a
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: couple of them will be back. Yeah, you know, I
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: could see Slater and mccordy being back. Yeah, yeah, I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's just I feel like this might be
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the time for Slater. Oh do you see Jeopardy last night?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: By the way, no, Amy lost. I don't see Jeopardy
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: any night. Amy lost, Forty doesn't know who forty game Street?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Paul is that the record? He's just trying to give
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: a little tribute on Twitter and he gets attacked by
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Andy Hard and Mike Giardi coming right out on I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: saw that that was with love. Todd's in Toronto, Hey Todd,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm so glad Paul's back. I don't know, it
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: just makes you show more approachable for some reason, even
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: if he's gonna slam whatever. I say. So my thing
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: is I was thinking about how Brady got his start
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and how he had just a great defense there that
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: could make sure that he was always in the game
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: early on, and you know he had and Troy Brown
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: was the best receiver that they had at the time.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I sure correct me if I'm wrong. And if we
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: can get maybe get White back so that there's somebody dependable,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: like a first down, get it up. You guys talked
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: about this already, well, getting somebody who could get the
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: first down, and I think, you know, if we got
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: him back, that would give him that and I would
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: just like us to see build the defense. But my
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: question for you is, I'm going to give you a
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: three option, go hole hog into defense, hole hog into offense,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: or trying to find a balance between the two and
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: which way you really would feel that the team needs
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to progress to the next step, because I think I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: think it they go defense. It's the right thing, and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I'll take the answers hurt. Oh oh woweez, nobody went
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: whole hog on you today Tuesday. Um, apparently he didn't listen.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Hole hog on offense, hole hog on defense, or a
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: balanced approach. I just I think you got to balance that.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: To me, if a balanced approach equals. Okay, I get
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver one and then the rest is defense.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I like that. I'll I could go for that. What
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: do you want to do? First receiver one, a true
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: one wide receiver and then the rest defense. Yeah. I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: think they need to do defense and uh, corner like
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: maybe like a linebacker, Yeah, yeah, a tackle, tackle, Uh,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: those things I think they do before they're down running back,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: like a James White replacement. I mean, the tackle situation,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I think is is definitely something to talk about because
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you have Isaiah Win one more year. You don't have
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: anybody at right tackle right now. And I don't know
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: how they feel about Michael and Win. You maybe they
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: see him going there long term, but I think they
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: need some stability there. I think that that again last year,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I felt like that was the dark horse first pick,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and I still think it could be a dark horse,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you know, first round pick, depending on how yes go.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: But a corner linebackers, Paul said, I mean, you could
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: really make a case for just about any defensive position. Yeah.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: A lot of it might depend on what Jacy Jackson
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and start doing. You know, they might feel like, oh god,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: if he's gone now, they really need to focus on
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: defense and cornerback in particular. Yeah, you need at least
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: at least two. Yeah, and that's and that's assuming that
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: you bring Jonathan Jones back at you know, at his
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: number that he has. But again, how much does he
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: bring when you really need outside corners? It's like, you know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I know everybody was all over Miles Bryant, but you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: how much of a drop off is that? Really? Like
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: if you have two good outside corners and you turn
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones over to Miles bryan you know, and I
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: don't know how much Jonathan Jones played when he was healthy,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: but it still feels like you're really paying a guy
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: a lot to be And who knows, maybe he kind
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: of this is something else, Maybe he transitions back to safety,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: maybe he kind of takes over, you know, some of
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that mccordy free safety role. He's experiencing this Jonathan Jones.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe they maybe they look at him that way.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: But UM, a lot to figure out outside corners big priority.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Ran from Colorado wants to note this. Paul of his
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: own show, Fred, will you drop a plug for Paul's show?
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I'd love to check it out because I always say
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Paul's show. I think the Audacity app if you get that,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: it's got EI on it and they and then the
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: ninety eight point five is to tune in or the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: you know so, yeah ninety eight point five the sports
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: radio or EI or Paul shows, and Paul often makes
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: appearances on one or the other, mostly not on You've
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: never been on the EI. I mean I have, yeah,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: not since I started doing But you're a regular on
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the Felgern maz correct Wednesdays at four o'clock. Yeah, but
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: not anymore, don't we during the season? What I know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I tuned in yesterday, like I was, like, was Paul,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. I think they're really making a big kind
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: of a week from Sunday. I'll be on Sunday Morning
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: with Teddy J on the Football Show. I don't know, Paul, Yeah,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, So that's that's on the Audacity No, no, no,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it's on the Sports help. You're getting a kind of
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Audacity Odyssey. Oh yes, it's Odyssey. Okay. Audacity used to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: be an app that you could record sounds off of
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: your computer. Remember, Oh really, yeah, you know what I'm
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: talking about, right, Morrel Sound guy, sound guy. Yeah, okah, Audacity, Yeah,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: it's an older app but okay, um Bart from Poland
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: writing in UM with Miami not in a rush to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: hire a head coach. I would really love to see
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: them lose out on day Ball and hire someone like
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Vance Joseph. But if I'm being honest, I'd rather they
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: hire Dayble than McDaniel from San Francisco. I don't know
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: what that means. When it comes to picks. I've got
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: since in La, but it's probably gonna be Casey Okay, yeah, yeah,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: since and LA. Haven't really thought about that matchup much.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: What would be the best rating and what would be
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the worst rating? Rated? And I know, Paul, either one's
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be great and I was gonna just completely stay
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: out of it and let you guys doing Casey rams
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I think would be the most since highest, the you know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the most high profile of the two. But and then
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: since and San Franco. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: wish these things were provable. That's all. Well, it's it's
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: just a rating. It's you know, no, but I'm still
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: great no matter what. But you only get to see one. Yeah,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: oh right, right, how do you know you don't get
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to see the other possible matchups to say, oh see,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I was right. Look at the rating a game, right, Okay,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: there's not a third place game. It's like because I
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: think in terms of a rating, the actual rating, I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: think San Francisco Cincinnati in eighty one is like the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: highest rated super Bowl ever. I think you're right. I
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: mean it's not the most people who have ever watched it,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: but it was the highest rate everybody, right, you know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: kind of like the mash for nowe yeah, when there
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: were four channels, right, yeah, yeah, this that this or
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: that that's you got four things, right. Uh. Tony writes
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: in I want nikkil Harry to retire, not Tom Brady,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: because clearly that was funny. Clearly Harry has some incriminating
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: pictures which ensure his presence on the team. Does he
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: make it out of camp next year? Does he make it?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Does he make it two camp? I think if he
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: makes it two camp, there is better than average chance
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: that he ends up staying because he's cheap. Yeah, right,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. But I think they need to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: make at least a move there, whether it's in the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: draft somewhere, maybe another free agent who's not quite so
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, expensive, but maybe it's an upgrade. And
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: even with you know, Agilo's only got one year left,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: regardless if you bring him back or not. So you know,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: nikkil Harry's got one year left assuming they don't pick
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: up his fifth year option, in which everybody is assuming
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: of course, right, Um so I you know, I again,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I think pretty much any position on the roster with
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: regard to fifty year options. You know, we're talking about
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: wide receiver ones. You know that everybody's clamoring for myself
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: included the Calvin Ridley thing that continues to be an issue.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I saw something that Albert Breer wrote yesterday that I
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't aware of with him his contract. He does not
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: get in the crude season for last year because he
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: didn't play enough. I guess. So he is not yet
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: on that fifty year option that they guaranteed him. So
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you can make an argument that makes it. You can
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: make an argument either way it makes him more attractive
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: to a team or possibly less because now you're trading
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: for a guy with two years guaranteed on his deal,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of uncertainty with Calvin Ridley for
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: obvious reasons with him. He stepped away from the game
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: for personal health case, you know, to you know, so
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I just thought in the here and now, the immediate future,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: he's a lot cheaper than that eleven million I think,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: although the eleven millions nothing anyway, I don't that wasn't
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to me a stumbling block for any team to trade
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: for him. But he'll be making a lot less than
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that in his fourth year, not the fifth year, so maybe,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe he does end up getting moved. I
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: still have not read anything about Ridley to indicate this
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: is strictly about Atlanta. He wants out of Atlanta. That's
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: why he didn't play last year, as opposed to he
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: was having some personal turmoil and he had to step
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: away from the game for his personal health reasons. Yeah,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: and I don't know what the answer to these questions are.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: My answer to will I be interested in Calvin Ridley
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: is one percent. Yes. I think he's an outstanding player
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and he'd be a huge upgrade for the Patriots Addison
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and Fresno. I was wondering if you had looked into
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the contract status of some of the Bills players. I
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: know the cap is crap, but they're there is a
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: chance that Josh Allen starts to lose some of his
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: bevy of weapons. That's a question. Is this all moot?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Because the bills will simply be as good as long
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: as Josh Allen is there. Both, Um, most of them
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: aren't up. I think Levi Wallace was one that they
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: were talking about yesterday. Hughes how they extended Allen. Right,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: he's all set. Yeah, yes, but they have they have
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: they'll have digs, they'll have um, Gabriel Davis is like
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: a two year guy, so he's he's young and cheap. Um. Yeah,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: and they have Dawson Knox is young and cheap like that.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: You know, they'll probably lose a guy like Emmanuel Sanders,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: who was he was the rent, you know, so Emmanuel Sands.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so like, I don't think you're gonna end
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: up losing anybody that you really want to Taiwan Jones.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I would even say they might even add like a
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: running back. Well like last year they added Sanders, ye right,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: you know, to to that stable. And I think you
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: could probably let Sanders go and add somebody of his
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: uh hilk. Yeah, but you I mean, you got two
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: good guys at the top, and I think Beasley is
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: sort of on the way down, you know, um, you know,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: who knows if he'll be back. Um. I think they
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: have a lot of options they need to. I think
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: they need to invest a little bit more in their
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: offensive line, get you know, maybe get a little bit
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: more depth than the offensive line. Although you know that
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: that the Spencer Brown kid, you know, did pretty well
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: for them as a rookie. Boy. Um, you know, he
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't great. He get up a lot of pressure, but
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: overall he wasn't bad. Um. And I think that they're
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: probably gonna need to to add to their depth on
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: defense too, because you mentioned Jerry Hughes. Yeah, you know,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: some of those guys are a little bit long in
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the tooth and you want to get some young guys behind.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Then they got you know, in recent drafts, they got
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: your your boy from Iowa Epanessa um and the guy
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: they you know, Rousseau they drafted this year, who was
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: much better against the run than people thought he would be,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: but wasn't the huge as a pass rusher guy. So
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: they have a good mix of talents in Buffalo. It's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're going away anytimes. No, I think
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the bigger question just how does how does the offense do?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Once Dable leaves? I think Dabele gets a lot of
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: credit for putting it together, getting the best out of them.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were, you know, unstoppable. Obviously who was
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the guy? Um? Oh, I think it's Ken Dorsey? The
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, so I guess Allen has already advocated for
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey, who I assume is on the staff already.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: He's probably like the quarterbacks coach or something. So they
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: did what like we would talking about on Tuesday. But
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: but evidently Dable wants him as his offensive coordinator. Intrigue.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: So but I think if you make him the offensive
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: coordinator right then he can't go right well and he
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a team. But why would he want to
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: prove it with Josh Allen? If you do good for
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a couple of years, you know, maybe I can fix
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. You know I would. I would stick with
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the known. Plus, when it's cold, you're in the booths.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: What do you kid? I can't argue jacket and I'm
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: In the past three drafts, the Patriots have used relatively
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: high draft picks to invest in the following players. Chase
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Winovitz third round and Freddy Jennings third round, Jowan Williams second,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Josh Uche second, Devin Asia third, Dalton Keene third, Ronnie
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Perkins third. Notwithstanding the large amount of draft capital invested
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: in these players, not one of them has become a starter.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Are we to believe the Patriots whiffed and all these
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: relatively high draft picks. If so, the Patriots need to
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: change their approach to the draft. If the Patriots didn't whiff,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: why haven't any of them cracked a starting lineup? What
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: is the future of these players? Well, Perkins got hurt
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: right away, right, and then he fell behind He yeah,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: he might have had he had an ankle injury, I think,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: like the first couple of weeks, but it wasn't the
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: injury that kept him off. And Keane gut has had injuries.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: He has I don't know what he Jennings Keen was
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a knee. Yeah, Jennings was hurt. Jennings hurt. We didn't
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: see Keen at all during training camp. Williams was a wif.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: It looks like Perkins was on the field every single
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: day of training camp right and was relegated to didn't
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: show him much team, maybe a little bit against the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Giants at the end where in that game, Oh there's
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I never really got it with him.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: It wasn't an injury thing with It's my point. I
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: know that he periodically showed up on the report. That's
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: not why he wasn't playing. No, he was out there
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: every day for training. I wrote the Rookie Review today.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: He had an ankle injury at the start. I think
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: he had a shoulder injury in the middle, and then
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: he had an ankle injury at the end that landed
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: him on IR for the last five weeks. But you know,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the email is saying anything.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: We haven't talked to him. He went on IR to
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: create a Rosha spot. Let's call it what it is.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I knew he wasn't doing anything. Um, you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: he's right. I mean, I think I see it with Jennings.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, you know he has his issues,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: but I think at least when you look at him,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: you say, all right, well, I get what they're trying
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: to do. They're trying to get another one of those guys.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: But you know, we talked about many times Uch and
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Winovich where they they're third down guys. I don't know
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: if they're ever going to be full down guys. So
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I mean the criticism is apt, and you're right, that's
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: why apt the decent. The the defense struggled. It's it's
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: they got too many guys that are older, and you know,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: they don't have those fresh, young legs like you would want.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Are they ready to turn it over? And all of
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: a sudden it's all right, we're just gonna go next
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: year with mcgron and with ray Kwon McMillan and Ouch
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: and Winovich and we're just gonna throw it in there.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I think it's a stretch to expect that. I think
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: they've got to find, you know, at least one more guy. Um,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: how does terres Hall fit back in? We've talked about
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: him as somebody, Um he's I mean, how does does
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: j Bentley? Do you bring Jowan Bentley back when you
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: know you really have kind of a throwback potential player
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: in him. You've got some other middle linebackers that, um,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: you know, Jelanni to buy is how much of a
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: drop off is it really from Bentley to Jelanny to buy?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: You know, playin significant But I don't think that Bentley's
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: worth Yeah, that's that's what's hard. What's hard. But I mean,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: but I think as like a you know, in a
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Landing Roberts, you know, just just stop the run, just
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: be an early down guy. Then, you know, instead of
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: trying to make Jawan Bentley into a three down linebacker,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: just kind of lean into the role. And I think
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: how they handle the linebacker position it will be one
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: of the most interesting things to kind of watch because
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: they've got a lot of those guys as we've listed off.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, they have a bunch there, but they don't
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: have anybody who's proven been there, done that, or really
• 44:27
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• 44:30
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• 44:33
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• 44:35
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• 44:36
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• 44:38
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• 44:41
  Speaker 1: you don't have anybody like that. All right, We're gonna
• 44:43
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  Speaker 1: Because that's right, and that's nothing to do with age.
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  Speaker 1: like he's both or like knock knock kneed. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: I take him, Yeah, I take him. Yeah he might
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  Speaker 1: be I'd be willing to wait, they say, they say
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  Speaker 1: that first year back you can play, but you're just
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  Speaker 1: So I think to Williams, point is, are you willing
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  Speaker 1: to make that concession and wait a year for him
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  Speaker 1: to be at his best? I mean, he's he's available
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  Speaker 1: somewhat though right immediately he would get out there because
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  Speaker 1: a rookie contract, I'm all for it. Yeah. Okay, one
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: more thing and that's it. This one is a football Well.
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  Speaker 1: I spoke to the gentleman about Jamison Williams. Joe, so
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  Speaker 1: would you take him? Or let's say okay, and let's
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  Speaker 1: just say God for big you know, Bill, just do this,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: like if he takes the Kobe Deame or my man
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  Speaker 1: I'm big on fan. I'm a big fan of his.
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  Speaker 1: So Anyway, my question is would you you know, if
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  Speaker 1: to pick up the fifth year option. Well, you had
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: to do that heading into the fourth year. Does that
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: is that binding? I was think of the same. Do
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like another team to trade
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: for him and say, actually, well no for the other
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: like if his contract didn't talk, like if he was
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: still entering his fourth year now, right, do you have
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: another choice to make? Do I have till May to
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: make that decision again? Or was my original my original
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: choice binding like that that would have been interesting? Or
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: if you trade him, does does another team have the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: same option where they didn't agree to it? So no,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I think that that's that's his contract. You trade for
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: his contract. That's that I know because when you trade
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: for a guy, his contract right now states that that
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: fifth year is getting just like if someone trades for
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Isaiah Win, they have to take that fifth year options.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: He's on it. Yeah, yeah, let's go back to the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: phones John's and DC. Hey, John, Hey, how's it going good? Oh?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I've I've been thinking about UM defense and particularly rebuilding that,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: and I I think there's basically only four questions you
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: have to ask your stuff. And you sort of started
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: answering the first one, which is are we changing the
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: philosophically at linebacker position? Right? Because I'm looking at the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: draft and just where reality hits, you know, theory, you know,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: the draft, there's four really stellar guys at the linebacker position,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: and then there's just a bunch of run stoppers, sort
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: of gowandantly type. I think, you know, so, I think
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: that going to be a key, because if you have
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: to get an athletic linebacker, you have to use your
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: first to your second round picks. So I think that's
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: the first question. Are we changing philosophically at linebacker or
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: are we doing the Cameron Camragron, Ray Kwan McMillan patched
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: jop for a year. If you're asking me to pick
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: one of those two things, I'll pick the second one.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's more likely. But I don't know, Like
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: it's hard to make these choices without seeing how a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: board sets up and how it unfolds. Like maybe Bill
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: thinks a lot more of one of those guys than
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: we're giving him credit for, and then all of a
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: sudden he's there like, wow, you know twenty one, I
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I can get this guy I didn't, you know, And
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: he might he might jump at it, you know, I don't,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, or yeah, he also might like a
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: guy you know, like Jamant Bentley. You know, everybody's like,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: you know, well you gonna say, well, when did they
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: draft your one? But but in the third round. But
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I think color is what you're saying, Like, let's just
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: say that first scenario Paul said twenty one that guy's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: there will jump. Are you saying that if they do
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: that it requires a change in philosophy and the defense.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think it necessary. I don't think it necessarily
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: necessarily does. But what I'm saying is that with your
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: with your concerns, particularly at the wide receiver position and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: the cornerback position, and given particularly how how crucial those
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: are going to be, I think you can pass a
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: linebacker for a year weight of the twenty twenty three
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: class and then get more of a selection than than
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: in this year's draft, is what I'm saying. Okay, Yeah,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I think that the change of philosophy to me would
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: be more personnel related than scheme related. I don't think
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: that you need to change your personnel. You're the way
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: you play, if you like, if you plug into Kobe
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Dean for Jawan Bentley, it's different, but it doesn't mean
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: that you're asking him to do different things. It's I'm
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: asking a smaller guy to feel. Yeah, but maybe now
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: you say, now we can do different things, and let's
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: you know, no. But I'm just saying it doesn't require
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: a scheme change. I don't want them to say I
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: don't think that the way they play defense is all wrong. Yeah,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: I think some of the personnel they used to do
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: it is a little bit antiquated. Yeah. Yeah, and so
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I guess that's not really philosophically, that's not the exactly
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: the best word. But that what I mean is are
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: we going after our traditional linebackers? Are we going after
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: the speedier guy? I don't, I don't know. My guess
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: is they're going traditional. What do you think of Darien Beavers?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Because I think he is traditional? That's the traditional that Yeah,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I came, you know, it's wait, what are you doing?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: He's this year's I went up there. Yet it's still genuine.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I know, I started dipping my tone in it, but
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: that's one player that popped out to me as the traditional.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I gonna be honest. The reason why I know who
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: d anything about d George's on TV every game? I
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: mean like I watched him every week. Yeah, thanks, John,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: appreciate the call. It's a good question that he don't
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: it's an opportunity this year. The answer, yeah, because they don't.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: They have a lot of free agents and guys, I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: mean it's it's an if they wanted to blow it
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: up and start over and re establish what they do,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: they could do it this year. And I think that's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: the heart of that call, is right, do they not
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: mismatching parts? Like it's not, well, we're gonna keep High
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Tower and Bentley and then we got to try to
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: fit into Kobe Dean. It's probably an opportunity to say
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go with the different skill set at that
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: position and see how it goes. Let's go to Mike
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: and Puerto Rico. Hey, Mike, Hey, guys, A long time
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: first time, Yeah, a long time listener, first time embarrassed.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, get it because you had us a little
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: bit because we know you've called many times before, but
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I get it now, first time embarrassed. All right, Yeah,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: is there any other words to describers? Sorry to be
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: so delayed on my response on it, but it's the
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: first opportunity you've gotten to call, and it really was,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: That's what Jevin mccordy said. Embarrassed. Yeah, I actually willing
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: to propose a moratorium on calling Bill Belsick and the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Prisoner genius, considering it's the first time ever Wow actually
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: had perfect game. Wow? Right? Okay, Well, I mean, you know,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: was every painting van Go painted a masterpiece? He was? No? Okay,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: I mean something. If you don't like I thought you
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: would say none of it. I have art questions. I
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: go to you. Art's pretty subjective, but no, no you can't.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: I think, no, it's not one. I think he's earned
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: his stripes. I don't think. Yeah, I don't know. Do
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: you want to do? You want to get rid of him?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized and and
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: you know, admittedly needs to get better. I just think
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: I just think the genius thing is stupid. I've always
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: thought it's stupid. His own father said. His own father
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: said to him, genius, you walk up and down a sideline.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: That's those were the words of his own father. But
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: it's just it's, you know, I don't think that there's
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: a genius on the level that every year this person
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: is able to put together a football team that just dominates,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Like it just sets like an unrealistic expectation of he's
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: he's an amazing football coach, but it's hard for I
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: mean to do. There's going to be ups and downs,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, can you be a genius at football?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's part, but there's so much involved
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: in getting players to perform, and you know, I mean, yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: sure he can drop a genius game play. That's kind
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: of the point. It's like so much is out of
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: your hands, Like you're relying on fifty three different guys
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: with different personalities to do it. And unless they do it,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: I don't care how smart you are, it ain't gonna work,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: you know, right well, but then again, if that's fine,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: But my point on this is there's never been a
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: perfect offensive output. At least that's what all the reading
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: it says and the stuff from social media whatever, like
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: there's never big and good as a historical buff and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like he's really into the rectors, the shoe rectors,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: and you know, the flowty drop kick and all that
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: other stuff. His name will forever be laid to the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: only that has ever given up in a perfect offensive game.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I think you're in the moment, the moment that I'm
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you here from now, it's gonna be completely
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: forgotten and I'm gonna and I'm gonna tell you and
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: I say this, I'm very consistent with these. I don't
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: care about Essay I d s. I don't think that
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: will even be in his now, in his bio. I
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: think you're I think you're you're in the moment, Mike,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: and I get it. It hurts right now. I don't
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: even think it's an open wound. But it's it's gonna
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: be lost in history, that little factoid, Yeah, will not
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: even be in the top ten worst things that you
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: list about Bill Belichea, Like I'm serious, Like right behind
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: the Brown's tenure um, the the press conference with the Jets,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: the corpse of Stephen Jackson, Uh, you know, the scandals
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: that he was involved. Like, it's not even gonna be
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler. It won't even be mentioned, right, Like it
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: was a horrific playoff performance in twenty twenty one, nothing more,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: nothing less, worst ever, That's the thing. It wasn't. It
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't horrific. It was the worst ever. I don't know.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I kind of thought the sixty three that that Miami
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: gave up to Jacksonville was pretty bad too. Does anybody
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: remember that but was it a perfect Nobody nobody cares
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: about sixty three. Nobody's paying attention to that, cares like,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's been game, there's been a million games
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: with teams haven't punted. Yeah, like, who cares that they
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: happened to score touchdowns? I remember, um the year that
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: the Colts came in here, they came it was a game,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: they came off a game when which they right, they
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: hadn't punted. Yeah, so it's I get it, Mike. It's
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: it hurts now, but it's gonna get better. It'll get better.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: And I hear you guys were talking about the Overton
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: rules and maybe some possible options to that and granted
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: more on the entertaining and light hearted side. But rather
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: than talking a coin, maybe either have the quarterbacks flow
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: into an accuracy compen. All right, so we're gonna make
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: it a circus? Yeah, I mean, this is where I'm with, Paul.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Can we just play football? Can we just continue continue
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: to play football? This is another great fellow go rant,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: thanks Mike. And it'll get better. I promise that, you know,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: and they would talk because they've been doing it. Because
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: if we wanted to just like cast the checks and
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: check our brains to the door. We could do four hours,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, five days a week for months on FACCTO
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: overtime because they just call and one is more ludicrous
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: than the next. It's like it's not a game of checkers.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: N I heard a guy called in the other yesterday,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I think, and suggested that instead of playing the overtime,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: it goes to the stats, whoever had the most total
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: yards wins Like these are the things that we're doing
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: overthinking it. Yeah, just play the game. Just play, play
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: the game till somebody scores more. And I'm really that
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: they're gonna come up with something new that's gonna have
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: all these and then but if you know all those
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: dens and but ifs and and you have to change
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: anything for the regular season, I think you just want
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: to change it for the playoffs. And I think it's
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: very simple. Just play another quarter and make it timed.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes timed, right, that's it. And if it's not decided,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: then then you do it. I mean, like, you know,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: you can't go all night, you can't do what the
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: NHL does. Uh over to Eldred and North Carolina. Hey, Eldred,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: he fell. That's how y'all doing today? Good? Hey, I'm sorry,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: I mean training, but truck training. I'm torn, yea, I
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: thought you were. Are you training a license driver? I'm
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: a licensed driver, but I'm training for another position. And
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: at least i'd be home on the weekend and I
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: gonna watch my favorite nice But yeah, but what I'm
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: torn between Stingleys and of late first round pick because
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: they go with deef the tackle. I'm just gonna go
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: through the roof again. Yeah, you know, because I don't
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: think they'll go to defensive tackle. I don't think so.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: I think many of the mock draft they pick in,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: you know. And then I don't like the other guy.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: I like him inside linebackers, but I don't think Bill
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: will go for that. But Stingley is a big press
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: sixth one press corners, got some speed that can cover.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Good player. I love Williamson. I don't think you'll be
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: around at twe Yeah, yeah, because both of those to
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: be around about twenty one. It did if you get it.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: But I just like I said, Jem, I don't like him.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: I know you get mad at me about seeing the
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: dude can't help it, coach. I love him to death.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: GM I got problems with you know, check with me
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: and April. I'll tell you who they should track. I've
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: just said for fifteen years, when I'm still living off
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: that Justin Jefferson, I gotta get him the nod. Weren't
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about Justin jeff Robbie Gould.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: You said to we have to have a draft, Robbie Google.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: I think they didn't. I identified him as what great
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: kicker's got a strong leg quickness? That was Shane is
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: a question? Yeah, sense this draft would be. I wouldn't
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: be mad as long as in a free agency he
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: picked up a wide receiver. Yeah, what did they do
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: before that? Yeah, doubt I wouldn't. I wouldn't be mad
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: at all. I think they need a number one wide receiver.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: But I understand they probably feel like they have limitations
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: on offense regardless, and they need a lot of help
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: on defense. Yeah, and they only have six picks right now,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: So whatever they do, they know what they're doing. Yeah.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: I hope all right, thanks Al, just we can all
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: go to bed at night with the knowledge that whoever
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: they pick will be the right course. Of course, Fred
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: will tell us Richard Santa Cruz, right, Sin thanks so
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: much for all you do. The Bill's loss was the
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: first time I remember ever having been simply unable to watch.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: I live in California. Now cool story, Haskell, and I
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: have to watch the games on game passed. So I
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: watched the second half while listening to the postgame show
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: and grieved and watched at the same time, the only
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: way I could do it. One question that it's always
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: perplexed me. Why is it so rare for professional punters
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: to actually kick the ball so it goes out of
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: bounds between the ten and the end zone. I mean,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: they're the best in the world at this right. They
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: used to do that. That used to be everybody don't
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: want to do that anymore. And why because they want
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: to give the coverage unit a chance to make a
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: play on the ball um inside the like they get
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: greedy number one want to turn it over the Yeah,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: they also want to see if they can get a
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: guy to make a bad decision with the ball on
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: that and the other thing that like, and that's from Belichick.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: I think what changed a lot of punting philosophy. Is
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: this the new technique that allows the ball to stand
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: up instead of going forward, like and that changed everything.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: I thought, like that sort of Australian rules football time
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: kick differently on plus fifty punts, right, and they do
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: from their own train the traditional the traditional punt. Yeah,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: they hold it straight out and it sort of spirals
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: and it's perfect. But yeah, they sort of like the
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Australian rules kind of rugby type thingyd. Instead of bouncing forward,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: it bounces up or backwards. That's a technique thing that
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: these guys have masters. Yeah, and you'll see there there
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: have been times they still go to the sidelines and
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: they're trying to avoid returns and what if they if
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: their coverage units are struggling or the other guy is
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, but I know Bill has said that
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: like whatever, I think someone asked them, whatever happened at
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: the coffin corner. Yeah, you don't really see it anymore.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: And that was how we explained this was a long
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: time ago. We're going back fifteen years. Yeah, sure, Just
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: they want to give teams a chance to make a play,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: and they also want to give the other team a
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: chance to make a bad play. Right Sean in Pedaluma, California, No,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: not awhere that Pedaluma never heard of it really I've
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: heard of it. It's a big you can pedal um
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: or pet a kitten whatever. Guys. I have a peculiar
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: theory I've been floating for the past five years or so,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: and it's right in Mike's wheelhouse. The theory is this,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: anytime a player wears a jersey in which the handwarmer
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: is sewn into the jersey, their team's chances of losing
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: go way up. It's not, but teams with sewn in
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: handwarmers always seem to lose, especially in big games. The
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: Ravens often wear them, and Lamar Jackson seems to flop
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: in big games with one. When Josh Allen came out
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: wearing one on Sunday, I knew they were doomed. I
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: just knew Patrick Mahomes would lead them to a comeback
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: with thirteen seconds left as long as Josh Allen was
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: on the other sideline with a sewn in handwarmer in
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: his jersey. So if it's sewn in, it's bad. But
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: if it's just war that was Those were huge. I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: remember when I was little, I'm watching the games. I
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: thought it was so cool they had them right in
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: their univers Brian site. Somebody sewed something kangaroo you get
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: that pocket. I thought those were so cool to go
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: right in. I wanted one of those. I wanted the
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: neck roll. That's what That's what I like. Now. That
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: was my eighties. Oh I started freshman football. I'm like,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: I gotta get a like I'm like the only freshman,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: and then I got a stupid, you know, neck roll
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: on like I'm hitting anybody, all right, do you have
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: any kind of impact you have a neck injury? No,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: look tough. I'm anticipating one though, And he had one,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: and are you kidding me? Yeah? Oh Andy had one,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: and he probably used different iterations I had, Like I
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: had like game expected to be like the big foam
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: one first, but then when I then then I got
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: just the collar one, you know, the caller One's the
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: black one that goes inside and just kind of sticks out.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: And he had one. Remember back and when we used
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: to player, at least when I you had the padded hand,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the fingers out, you know, and he'd probably
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: like put ketchup in there to make it look like
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: it was bloody or something. You know. I loved it.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: I taped my fingers too. I was like, Wow, this
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: is actually I can see why you tape your fingers.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he would do all that stuff. I didn't.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: I did too. I did too. Me and Andy were
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: more alike, probably than the fullbacks. It's all about the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: like the Brian Cox one. Remember the Brian Cox up,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: the straight up one. I mean, could go on. I
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: think Grogan wore a version of all of them. You're right,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: and he had to. Yeah, he actually needed I'm like, yeah,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: it's like I just want to look cool. Let's see
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: who's this? I don't know. Underrated move of the offseason
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: is Elliott Wolf staying in New England. It's a huge
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: boost to the draft room and it showed with their
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: selections last year. It's been needed for a while, but
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: having those fresh and new wise to evaluate the draft
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: for New England will pay off with the draft again
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: this year. I think you'll see improvements with the second
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: the fourth round selections from here on out. How do
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: you know Eliot Wolf had anything to do with those pots?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: We don't. I guess I did. I guess he didn't
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: really have much of a voice in two thousand. Oh no,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: is he here and this is third year? Won't this
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: be his third year? Wolf. Yeah. No, Well, I mean
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you couldn't. Maybe I thought it was. I thought it
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: was his third year, but maybe I'm wrong. I mean
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: you could make the as he's been here longer, he's
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: had more. He didn't really go outside the box, as
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: I've said many times by taking those two Alabama guys.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: And to that end, Efron from Hollywood, California, Ron Zimbolist Junior.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: If you know Hollywood, I do, He says. The New
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: England Patriots had a great draft last year, which was
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: a major upgrade from prior drafts. What change? Which individuals
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: should be given credit for the turnaround? What changed is
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: they needed a quarterback and got one with the fifteenth pick. Yeah,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones started from day one and won ten games.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: That's why you draft was so good. Well, Barmore, I
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: think was a good pick. I think Stevenson was a
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: good pick. Yeah, you got three. If you get three
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: picks in the draft, that's a good draft. But take
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones out and what is it? I don't know
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: who they pick instead of it? But well, let's put
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: a Isaiah Win. Let's do what they've been doing. Yeah, no,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: but that's not fair. But no, it's not fair. No it.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, first of all, they had the
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: highest rated draft and this was a thing I read
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: on ESPN plus. Okay, and I think it's it's warranted.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's valid. I mean, I think when you
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: get a starting quarterback who plays from day one, your
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: draft deserves to be ranked number one. But it's number
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: one because of that, not because of Barmore in Stevenson,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: and I mean it just is yeah, but probably still
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: pretty solid with Barmore at least. I mean, I you know,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: I get augments, but augments it, but that's an important
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: kind of player only, draft only trade they made very physical. Second,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: I just think the draft is huge this year. I'm
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: really excited for it. I know that probably surprises everybody
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: secon I'm excited for something. Elliot Wolf was. This was
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: his second year into so it makes sense that now
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: he's a little bit more comfortable and has maybe maybe
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: so this will be the draft. Then the second this
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: is he'll have his fingerprints on. This will third draft, right,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: so this is the one we can expect the yellow
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Wolf Draft. I don't know why you have to be
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: so snarky just being I'm just I don't know, but
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: I mean not just but I know everybody wants to
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: embrace it because they had a good draft last year?
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Why can't build get This is where I'm gonna actually
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: depend Bill, all Right. It usually works the opposite for Bill.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: Usually he gets credit for things when they go well
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: and blame for things I mean and ignored when they don't.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: But you're a fan, he's the guy who's in charge. Okay,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: but if you blame him for the bad draft, you
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: got to give him credit for a good Fine, he
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: gets the credit for last time. But whatever the reason,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: we do admit that over the last five years or so,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: they've had pretty crappy drafts. Yes, they've so I'm giving
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: him credit. Okay, So this one right, so things got
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: a little better. You also factor in Robert Crafts uh
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: comments in the offseason that we need to be more collaborative.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: Fans hear that and they're wondering, what does that mean?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: Did they become more collaborative? Yeah, I'm just gonna continue
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: to say Bill's in charge. I actual much like when
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: the defense falls apart, you know, to Mike and Puerto
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Rico's point, I think that's at the feet of Bill Belichick. No,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: one else. All right, I know you want to and
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: I give Bill credit for I know you want to
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: be a Bill Tody and that's fine. That's fine, list
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: and I am too. But I I could show you
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: that the sound drops of me saying he's a very
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: very good drafter. I know. But even if you even
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: if you want to say, give Bill credit for being
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: more collaborative, okay, just started randomly talking talking about Bill.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: You know, if even if you want to give Bill
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: the credit for being more collaborative, that's fine, But what
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: does that collaboration look like? What was that? Was that
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Elliott for Dave Z having more of a look? That's
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: that's all the that's all the emailers wondering what do
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: we you know, what do we owe to that collab?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: You know, that improvement and or collaboration? We'll never know.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: But I thought thought, I thought his email was that
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: all it's a boon that the hatreds chipan Elliott Wolf
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: because well that's what he's thinking. Yeah, but we don't
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: know that, right, And that's the next that's the next.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: That's why I followed it up with the next emailer,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: who said, what do to what do we owe that improvement?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: We'll never know, because I'll never tell us. The answer
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: to the question is mac Jones, like, that's why you
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: feel like you've improved so much. I don't, Okay, I
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: don't buy the collaborative. I think Bill's in charge. He's
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: the guy I agree blame him when it goes back.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: You can still be in charge and be more collaborative. Sure,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: you can still be in charge. Yeah, if sure, I
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: don't think that that's the case. I don't think that happened. Oh,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: all right, that's fine. None of us know. And again,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Deuce will just sit in the side and he will
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: not say anything. We don't just make faces and will
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: not say we don't know, and we'll never know. He does.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: That thing is I think Bill has always had guys
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: that go out and do all of this work, and
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: then they go to him and they all talk about it,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: and Bill makes the decision. Yeah, and I think they
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: did that last year too. But did he listen to
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: them more and make the decision? You know, I think
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: he's always listened to them. I don't think he listened
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: to them more. The only word I would disagree with
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: is the I get it, And that may be the case.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: I just know. I know because I hear people talking.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: They remember what Kraft said about maybe we need to
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: be a little bit more collaborative, and they wonder if
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: that happened. That's all. Yeah, I think it's great to wonder.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think with this draft, though, it always
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: stood out to me was just that they didn't take
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: any of those random who like everything made sense to
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Paul's point, Alabama quarterback Mac Jones, that that's what they did.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like, Wow, they really went off the beaten
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: path this time and really found some gems. Like it was,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: they did what they kind of were supposed to do
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: usually instead of taking like a random second round safety
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: that no one had ever heard of. It. Well, I
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: but pick but are you okay with that pick? Which one? Rhyan?
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: But the random second round safe that I was just
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: gonna say that. I was just hold on, now, this
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: is where I'm gonna push back on you dudes. Yeah,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: he wasn't a random second round pick. Everybody had him
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: pegged for being. I wasn't. I mean, like he was
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: on a lot. I didn't mean when I was saying
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: I was, I was using that as a general example
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: of like Tavan Wilson and you know those guys. I mean,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: I wasn't calling out Kyle Dugger, who I like, Yeah,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that that was an outlier. And
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: I do think that that draft was okay. Um, but
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I just don't think that they went that
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: far off the beaten path that you need to think
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: that all of a sudden somebody came in and was like, wow,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: we gotta redo everything we do. Let's take the guy
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: from Alabama. And everyone thinks it's a great hit for here.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: And I know, like, listen, I am absolutely guilty of
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: the snark. I mean, I'm not, but I do think
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: snark aside. I think it's all different when you have
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean, obviously Josh McDaniels had a lot
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: to do with drafting Mac Jones, right. I mean, we
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: don't know, but I can't reasonable minds assume that the
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator had something to do with which quarterbacks they
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: were going to try to They were going to try
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: to take a quarterback at some point, right they were
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: going to try to take one. They had an opportunity
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: to take one, and I'm sure that that Josh was
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: involved in that. But that's where I think this is
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: all about Like, I think you could just as easily
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: have not taken him because he was gone, and you
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't look at the draft the same way. Well, no,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: I disagree with that, Poul. What if it was Waddle
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: that was the guy that it was available, and they
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: took him, and then they took Barmore and Stevenson, you'd
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: still have three of your top guys right contributing. Yeah,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: but you questions, right, I know, but you would you
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: would recognize Waddles good. He's going to be good again Alabama, Okay,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Like that's what they do. Like, I don't really see
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: any I'm with Deuce on this. I don't see any
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: departure from I didn't see like a oh, Chiefs. They
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: used to go for these guys that you know, no
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: one ever heard of. Yeah, they've made some some questionable picks.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: Everybody does. And Tavon Wilson was one of those guys
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: that everybody was Like a lot of people didn't even
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: have him going in the draft at all, and they
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: took him in the second round. There's not a lot
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: of those. Yeah, no, I listen, I'm I'm with you.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just I know what people are thinking, and they
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: heard that collaboration and then you know, all of a sudden,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: Elliott Wolf and Dave Ziegler are on everybody's you know,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: interview list, and people connected. A lot of people thought
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: they were going to take the kid from Tulsa. Yeah Collins, Yeah, right,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: and Collins, that's the Beavers guy this year who hasn't
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: had he didn't have a tremendous rookie year. Right. I
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: think he's okay. So but if you took him, he
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: still needs your small, fast linebacker or you know, you
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: know what they complain about right now, If they took him,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: they would say they needed to be more of a collaborative.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: They need to get different voices in that room because
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Bill can't do this anymore. Yeah, that's it just didn't
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: feel it just didn't feel overthought. And I think some
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: of the drafts in the past felt overthought and you know,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: trying to find a gem here that no one else
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: really knows, and you know, this is one they just
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: played to their strengths. They what do you need? Go
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: get the guys trying to think the guy that was hurt,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: who was a little bit undervalued because of them. But
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: I think I think I think that's a great word
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: that Mike uses because I think they're often guilty of overthinking.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: But I think it's in terms of them moving around. Yeah, right,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: and that's the one true you know, bar more. Otherwise,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: who we got, this is what we need? Who's the
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: best that maybe maybe you know what, again, reasonable minds
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: can can come together. Maybe that's where you guys are
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: right and I'm wrong. Maybe there was a little bit more.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Hey Bill, let's just pick, just pick the guys. Maybe
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: they got that. Let's let's not try to steal the
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: draft every year. Let's just pick some good places. Yeah,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: when we're available. Maybe that's a collaborative could be that
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: worked out for them. And I don't I don't want it.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want it to be even let Ernie Adams
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: pick treit Nicks, right, But I don't want it to
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: come off as as as anything being blamed on Nick Assario.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: But I think that that's a dynamic that left and
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's just how was that? How
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: did that shift things a little bit too? I mean,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: it's just all we don't know exactly how how the
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: ingredients all come out. You don't and I just hope
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: they do the same thing. I wish we could. I
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: wish like we could like who knows like Cassario lifts
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: leaves and then Bill realizes, you know what, I can't
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: lean on him as much. It's not a two man
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: deal anymore. Maybe I need to listen, you know who
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: knows him? Course a little bit. I mean, we all
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: know how involved Nick Assario was, and you know, I
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: think you look at some of the players that he
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: took down in Houston in it, you know, those are
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: some Patriots type guys or you know, I can't recall
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: off the top of I mean, obviously Davis Mills was one,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: but they didn't have a lot of picks. Yeah, but
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: I wish they had. They had a small class. But
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: I think we all you know, and there's I know
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: there's people now going around like, well what if you
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: didn't take Mac Jones. You look Davis Mills here, and
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to work that whole thing. But I
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: just I don't know how it all came together. But
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: I do think that this draft is just hugely, hugely,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: hugely important to the future of where they're going, and
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: they need to be this coming on just yeah, just
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: as good and just as good and and hopefully it's
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: the same kind of thing where we see that same
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: all right, we know they need position, they need cornerbacks,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: they need cornerbacks. They take a corner you know, they
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: take the top round cornerback at twenty one, Like all right,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: there you go. Um, just things like that. That that
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: that seemed to make sense on the surface. But we'll see,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: we'll see. It's a it's gonna be this is gonna
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: be fun. And I said, like I was joking, like,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: you know, everyone's gonna be surprised that I feel a
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: little bit reinvigorated for the draft. But I just don't
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: think that free agency is gonna be the thrill ride
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: that it was last year. I think it's gonna be
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: working like, it's gonna be moving money around. It's not
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be sexy. But I think when then, when you
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: get to the draft and as Eric said, you got
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: six picks, like you got two, two or three, gotta
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: step in. They have to contribute. I'll tell you what
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: my fear is. Mike gets excited. I get worried, because
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: that's generally how the two of us are, right, Mike
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: is an excited guy and I'm I'm a New England.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: He gets excited, then he's get completely deflated. That's maybe.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: I worry about that, those six picks, and if he
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: says it's not enough, we gotta trade down. We gotta
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: do something about that. Your tongue young, we gotta do
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: something about that and make a couple of trades to
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: end up with eight or nine picks, and that would
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: not be good. To stop it because I'm with you, Paul.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: I think they need quality and I think that's what
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: this draft like. You can win the draft with three guys.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: They won the draft with three guys and and they
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: you're probably taken, but no, But I think you're absolutely right.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: They had three really good picks, quality guys. That step
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: That makes a great draft. You get three really good players.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: That's a great draft. As Jim Valvano would say, that's
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: a great day. You were moved to thought and he
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: had your emotions. That's a great day. Cried you beat
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: the crap out of somebody. What was it, I don't remember. Yeah,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: Max from Santiago de Chile, Santiago, Chile. Yeah. Reality and
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: evidence point to focusing on the Patriots building a strong
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: defense this offseason. All else should take a back seat. However,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: the lack of playmaker ability at wide receivers should not
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: be relegated to an afterthought this offseason. In my opinion,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: what the Patriots need is another Julian Edelman type receiver,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: not an ex receiver. This alone will create space and
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: opportunities for the likes of Henry Bourne and perhaps a Galore.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: It also fits into what Mac is best at as
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: a quarterback. What have we've seen about that part? What
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: do we have to base that on? What do you
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: mean that that fits Max's skill set the most? I
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: think you just means short accuracy, you know short as
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: we see that, the short, quick, accurate throws like that's
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: the throw he makes best. Because I think the best
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: the best guy you through to was Myers, and that's
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: not that man. That's a that's that's a good zag question.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good zag question to consider. But
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: I think overall, an accurate, smart quarterback knows where the
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: ball goes. And those are kind of the guys that
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: he played with a little bit right like that at
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Alabama that get the ball out, let them do the work.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know in theory, those guys were so fast
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: too and so open. Yeah, and I mean I would
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: love to have both. Can I be greedy and say
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: I'd like the the Edelman type or Welker type over
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: I don't care what the skill I don't I don't
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: care what the position is. I think they need the
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: skill set like they need a dynamic player. Of course,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: I like every team that was left last weekend had
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: at least any team that had Wes Welker, Julian Edelman
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: Troy Brown in their prime would be better. I don't
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: think that's the number one thing lacking from the Patriots.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: They need a guy who can take a short throw
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: and make a big play. They need a guy who
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: can go downfield and make a big play on a
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: long throw. They don't have that. I don't care if
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: it's an X y Z, I don't really care what
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: position it is. They need a dynamic presence at the
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: position that they don't have. And to Eric's point, how
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: many times should you see it over the weekend? In
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: those four games and the only game that didn't really
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: feature any of those kinds of plays was the Packers
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: Niners game, which was a slugfest. The other games had
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: because Rogers refused to throw to anybody, flips to Jamar
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: Chase in the flat, Mikole Hardman catching one Tyreek Hill
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: with the game on the line. Bang, I mean, forget
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: about Gabriel Davis. Ye like they don't. The Patriots don't
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: have those kinds of guys, and I don't care. I mean,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: if it's a slot guy, because that's what the Patriots
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: of Gravitata toward. I'm all on board with the emailer.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: I think that they could use a slot guy. I
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: don't know the only part that I would say. I
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: don't know about his Mac. I don't know. And Mac
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: wants this, that or the other thing. I don't know
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: what he thinks. It'd be interesting to hear what he says.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: I'm most comfortable throw. And I also think those quarterbacks
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: make those guys better. I mean, when when when you
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: have a guy either one of them, that can run
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: out of the pocket and hit guys from any angle,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: it makes it so hard to cover these guys. You know,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: it's it's you. I was just gonna say, I, you know,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: agree with everything you said and how you laid it out.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: And then I think about how I felt when they
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: selected to kill Harry, and I felt like, I don't
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: get it. You know, everything you said made sense. He's
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: none of those things. That's you know, and that's goes
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: back to these drafts. I think because of that, people
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: say I don't want that X receiver. I don't want that.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: They didn't get the right one. Aaron Dobson wasn't the
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: right one. Nikkil Harry wasn't the right one. But you
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: can get guys that play outside that can make plays
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: that like like friends guy Justin Jefferson, like, you can
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: get guys that play in space, you know, outside and
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: can make space for themselves. We just don't. We just
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: haven't done it. Ye Wan and Monterey Mexico. I believe
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: that Bill went with players from programs he trusts and
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: picked players with don't talent but probably a lower ceiling
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: excluding Barnmore, comparing to other years where he went for
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: projects with a possible higher ceiling but lower floors like
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Wilson and Dawson. Yeah. I mean there's examples of everything
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: you know, right, and Wilson was drafted what twelve years ago,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Eugene Wilson, Oh, I think always talking about TV, Jean
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: Wilson was drafted where he was supposed to be. Davon
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Wilson's the one that really stands out like that that
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: I remember there was like York kinds of guys, the
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: ar lads and those kinds of publications. They didn't even
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: have him. One of my best drafting who it was?
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: It was this Mike. I was apple plegic, your page
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: is turning. I mean we're just flipping over, like not
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: not not a third round, a lot of fourth round
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: in bed. We couldn't find it. He went he went crazy.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: Eric went crazy. The only time he's ever really that
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: in the Quarterback Great Draft Cincinnati when Cincinnati was with Burrow,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what are they doing? They were taking like
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: the whole eight minutes. Actually though you didn't really like
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: mac All when you were on because I was like,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: I wanted the quarterback. I just didn't want that quarterback.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm torn. But he did all right,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: Howard in Stratford, Connecticut. I agree with Paul in that
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: BB is in charge and the buck stops with him
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: for good and bad drafts. That's said in any organization,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: a CEO doesn't make decisions in a vacuum. That decisions
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: are made based on information that their team around them provides.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: The one big change recently is Cassario leaving and what
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: appears to be a more collaborative team effort in providing
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: information to Belichick to make his decisions. Question is was
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Casario what is considered a bottleneck a person who filters
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: information upwards to the decision maker. If so, then Belichick
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: is making decisions based on flawed or filtered information. Perhaps
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: now all the information is getting to Bill and he
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: is making more informed decisions because all the information is
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: getting to him. Just a thought. The dynamic has changed.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: What exactly that means is up for speculation. But the
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: new process initially looks positive. Let's see where it goes
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: over the next few drafts. It's interesting, it sounds like
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: business that's business school things. That sounds like things you
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: learn in business school. Bottleneck information, bottlenecking upwards. Yeah, I
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: don't have the information, so I can't really fight back
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: on that stuff. I don't I don't know if. Yeah,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: And I just think it's very convenient that Casserio leaves
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: and you have a good draft, you know, like, And
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: that's why I didn't want to say. That's why I
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: didn't want to go down that road. But certainly the
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: process must have changed with how trusted Nick Kisserio was
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: and you know, how close they were and how involved
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: in everything he was. Maybe maybe it went the opposite way.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe because Casserio left, Bill felt like he had
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: to get more personally involved in the process. Yeah, that
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: could be too. Yeah, there you go, that could be too.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: The whole other thing. Uh, Patty's an agoam on the
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: A sticket outline. What's up? Patty? Up? Guys. I had
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: a question about Josh, but before I before I get
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: to that, UM, two guys I would love to see
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: I named one of them before UM, but first round,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: I would The guy that might be there for Corner
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: is Ki or Elam out of Florida. He's big, I
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: don't know, but he's He's that tough press man Corner
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: that that would probably fit well in the system. And Polly,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: the guy that you were talking about, a guy that
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: gets open and short and medium and long distance and
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: has that that next level like twitch and quickness and speed.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: Bill Robinson out of Kentucky, that's the guy. I want
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: to see them drafted. So it's probably not gonna happen. Yeah,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: he's a good player. I've heard his name. I'm sor
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: him a couple of times. I've heard his name. Um yeah,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: I mean I just like Elijah Moore that you know,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: we really liked um out of all miss everywhere. He
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: was there. Now they got Barmore, So like, I'm not
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: like you. As long as you take a good player,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: I don't mind you miss another good player. You can't
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: get all the good players. So they got Barmore. They
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: traded up for Barmore and they got him, and I
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: think everybody's happy with that. But that was a guy,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: and that's where I'm looking. Second, third round, give me
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: an athletic receiver that can make plays. They are available.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: This is like four or five drafts in a row
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: with those kinds of guys have gotten taken. And I'm
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: not talking one guy. Emin Ron Brown is another one
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: who kind of came on a little bit for Detroit. Yeah,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: we talked about I I you know, to go back
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: to your first point though, is press man corner the
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: prototype still? Is that still what they want to do?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: That's a question. Started to move to zone this year
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. Did I want to? I mean,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they couldn't play. Yeah, they probably couldn't,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: you know, but I'd be curised philosophically with these mobile quarterbacks.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: Do you want to can you play that much man
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: and you're locked with a guy and you're running down
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: the field, or is it Hey, let's look more on
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: guys that are super physical and smart in zone. I
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: don't know, I'm just I think that that's also part
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: of the philosophical discussion of where they're headed on They're
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: trying to pay attention to where the quarterback is. Well,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, you're not to go one
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: way or the other, but it's hard to play full
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: man against really mobile quarterbacks. Thanks Patty. But that's a
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: good point that Mike mad because you know, we've we've
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: often said they want to play that way, but this
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: year the second half of the season, certainly they didn't.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: And it's the same thing as linebacker, where they have
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: an opportunity right now if they want blow it up
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: and do what they do, what they want going in
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: the direction that they But I just feel like if
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: you have if you have a good physical press man
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: corner and you don't want to play press man, that's fine,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: I know, right but if you have you know, sort
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: of you know, smaller slower corners that aren't as physical
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: but don't like to play press. Now you're stuck because
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: they can only do one thing. I feel like the
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: physical guy can play both ways. Yeah, you're You're definitely right.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: And I think if a guy can play physical man, like,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: if he's a physical man press corner, he can, he
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: can play cornerback. He looks lost in that he can run.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: Some guys like, you know, I think Jowan Williams looks
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: to me like all he can do is physically beat
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: beat up to receive U Rozzie in Los Angeles. Looking
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: back at the season, having a rookie quarterback take the
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: Patriots to the postseason and a seven game win streak
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: should make me feel great about the season, But the
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: way they finished made me realize they aren't just max
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: progression away from being a contender. Instead, they are a
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: multi year defensive rebuild from challenging the top teams. So
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: I find it hard to think of this season as
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: a success. Looking forward to next year, there are a
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: couple of teams in cap jail, Saints and Packers that
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: might have to trade some high profile players to give
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: themselves room to rebuild. Are there any players and these
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: rosters that the Patriots could potentially and realistically trade for it.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: I'd like to get Michael Thomas. Yeah, yeah, he's good.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to be limited this year. I
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: think I think the it's about the draft, and I
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: don't I'm not really trying to get my hopes up
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: that there's going to be big trades or you know,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: huge free agency splash manager expectations. I just think this year,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: maybe next year they get back into it. But that's
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: what happens when you're in a rebuild. You have to
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: go piece by piece. Some years you can be more aggressive,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: some years you can. And also is what happens when
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: you so heavily invest in free agency and those contracts
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: become bigger right in year two. Yeah, that's by problem
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: In terms of what was the first part of that question?
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: You don't remember because you already deleted it. He got
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: into the cap jail stuff, which kind of got me up. Well,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: some teams like the Saints and the Packers, no cap
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: jail whatever, ntill do whatever they want. Um there is
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: I mean Rogers, Rogers leaves Green Bay and they'll figure
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: out what they want to do. They're gonna be build. Yeah,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: like it's not going to be like, oh, we're in
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: cap jail, so we can't win this year if Roger's leaves,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: they're not gonna win. Well like for example, and I
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: don't know if this is true, but this is just
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: what I heard in Tennessee. Tannehill's contract is such that
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: they can't move on from him. Yeah, but why is
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: that cap jail? Because of all the money that the
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: money that they have the un the quarterback, they're not
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: going to move on from him. Well, he's their quarterback. Okay,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: so I so no team moves on from a quarterback.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: But but not now all right, this is too late
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: to get into this. I'm just saying, Paul, if they
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: if they want the Saints and the Packers of the
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: two teams that people were talking about, because they're over
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: the cap, I know, I understand, but that, but the
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: Titans are tied to now Tannehill because of his contract,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: but they also want him to be their quarterback. Like
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: if he was like Jamis Winston the year he threw
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: thirty picks, now you're in trouble, okay, But he's not
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: that like they want him to be their quarterback, do they?
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Now they made a mistake in wanting
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: him over Brady. But you can't fix that mistake now,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: not because of the cap, because you screwed it up.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: You're Tannehill bad. You gotta line it right. But let's
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: say it like another word again. It's different argument, like
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: it's a talent miss value. But let's say let's say
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: Brady or Rogers wanted to go to Tennessee. They couldn't
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: do it. Oh yes they could. I don't know. Oh yes,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm under. That's like it because you still
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: believe in Santa Claus. That's why you still believe that.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: That's an I don't think they can pay Tannehill. And
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you they could figure it out. Okay, they
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: should figure it out. All right, let's see if they
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: do it. Um Oh, I forgot all about that ten minutes.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, we only have two games I have
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: to bring up. We got we got we got yeah,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: read the last email. We got time? We got time? No, no, no,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: we got time. I have a meeting it too. You
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: might have time, but I have worked ten minutes to
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  Speaker 1: do two games all right, so five minutes a game?
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  Speaker 1: All right, what and we have to do? What happened
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  Speaker 1: last week? Call? It's that time of the week, thanks Matt.
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  Speaker 1: All right, what do we got? Okay? Well, I can't
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  Speaker 1: really confirm the numbers, but uh, this is what it
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  Speaker 1: appears to me. Uh, Paul and Fred two and two,
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  Speaker 1: Eric and Mike oh and four? Can confirm? How was
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  Speaker 1: that possible? We picked all four wrong? Wow? You actually
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  Speaker 1: went one and three. I was lying. Oh, I was
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  Speaker 1: pretending that I was shorting you a win. Oh I know.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't here. I didn't have my shit in front
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  Speaker 1: of me, so I just took your word for it.
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  Speaker 1: According to this, do you pick the ROMs? I did
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  Speaker 1: pick the ROMs? That's right, okay? So Eric went one
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  Speaker 1: and three, Mike went and four. Cot than you. Just
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  Speaker 1: as hard to do was going four and oh. I
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  Speaker 1: might have gone on and four in the spread. Um
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  Speaker 1: with the spread, or maybe I did better in the spread.
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  Speaker 1: Paul and Fred were three and one, Eric was two
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  Speaker 1: and four, Mike was one and three. I'm sorry two
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  Speaker 1: and two. I wrote four. It's two and two. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately we got screwed. Freddie, I could I had a
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  Speaker 1: mammoth week. Oh yeah, if not for those thirteen seconds, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was a that was a crush it. I was
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  Speaker 1: thirteen seconds away from going three and one and four
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  Speaker 1: and oh would have put a whole different spin on
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  Speaker 1: my week anyway. The totals for the playoffs Paul and
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  Speaker 1: Fred seven and three, Mike and Eric five and five
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  Speaker 1: with the spread Paul eight and two, Fred seven and three,
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  Speaker 1: Mike and Eric four and six. See playoffs and win.
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  Speaker 1: It's really thank you Fred, Thank you Fred. Spin doctors
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  Speaker 1: over here all right, Um, let's we got a hurry.
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  Speaker 1: So let's start with the first game on Sunday, three o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals at ten and seven? Why do they have
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: records here? Who cares? Bengals at the Chiefs the entrance?
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: Why are you reading them? Kansas City by seven seven? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Now there's there's there's a lot of dark pool information
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  Speaker 1: out there. What's that mean? Yeah, I've heard that that's
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: a new term, dark pool deadpool, No, dark pool information
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: is I've never heard the term and have no idea.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: What web. Yeah, it's kind of like dark web, but
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: it's dark pool, like scuttle butt going on? What is it?
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Is it that the just m no, I don't know
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: what it is. But I heard that, but we don't
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  Speaker 1: know what Fred heard this information out there, didn't hear
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: what the information is. It's called what it means, It's
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: called dark pool information. I'm gonna I'm gonna piggyback off
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: that useful information. And I wish I could paying artificial
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: intelligence over here. I'm looking at it really dark pool. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I what does the AI? What does the does? What
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: does the uh? So? I wish I could pick Cincinnati,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: but I just I think the Chiefs are are on,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: They're ready, they clicked into gear. I'm gonna take Kansas City, unfortunately,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: and I will u I will lay those points I
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: think though. I think it'll be a good game, but
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: I think a touchdown is about right. Okay. I'm going
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: to take the Chiefs to win as well, just because
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  Speaker 1: I agree that that's gonna be a little too much
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  Speaker 1: for the Bengals to overcome. Nice ride. I didn't realize
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: that was their first ever road playoff road playoff winning
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: franchise history. Wow. Mind boggling, but nice story bottled up
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: in your mind, yes, like bottled I'll take the Bengals
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: points though, I Hopefully they make it a competitive game,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: make it a little exciting at the end. Yeah. I
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: also like Kansas City. I think the big thing for
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: this game to me is coaching difference. I thought that
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati last week was a much better team than Tennessee
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: and Mike Vrabel absolutely coached the pants off of that
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: chooch Zach Taylor. They never they never had an answer
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: for what the pressure that the Titans were given, and
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: they kept going empty and they just kept killing them
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: and reading a lot of stuff about it this week,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: it was like there was just no adjustment made. I
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: think Andy Reid and his staff will figure out ways
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: to do that. I think they have a much better
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: coaching structure than Cincinnati, and I don't think Cincinnati will
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: be ready for this moment. Yeah, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be all that close. I agree, I think it,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: you know, as the game goes on, I think the
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: Chiefs pull away. Yeah. My one fear with that pick
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: is that Kansas City is a little bit drained, worn
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: out from that after that game. But I think they
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: stick this so much. Yeah, me too, And I know
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: they just played what three weeks ago, full weeks ago,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: and Sady beat him. So but that was in Sinci
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: Chiefs both ways. Um okay. So now six thirty Sunday evening,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers at the Rams ROMs by three and
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: a half despite having lost the last six in a
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: row against the Noiner. Wow, that's an interesting stat I
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: didn't realize that. Um. Still, I gotta I'm gonna go
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: with the Rams. I just think they've got They've got
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: the horses. I think Jimmy g As we discussed a
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: little bit up and down and you know, not not
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: quite there as far as putting them over the top.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: I like Matthew Stafford. Yeah, I think I'm gonna take
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: the Rams both ways as well. Um, I'd love Jimmy.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: I'll be rooting for him, hope he does well. But
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: I just think the Rams in the end will be
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: too much. Yeah. I U. This is a tough one
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: because there's definitely something to the fact that the Niners
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: have a mastery over them. But I'm gonna take the
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: ram still win the game at home. I think they
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: just have too much offense. And now I'm gonna lay
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: the points because I think if it's a close game,
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: the Niners will win it. So I think the Rams
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: will win, and I'll say that they cover too. Why
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: do you think that if it's a close game, the
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: Niners win it because the Rams will have that. It'll
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: be in the weight of that on their head. You know,
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: they had a seventeen nothing lead the last time they
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: met a couple of weeks ago. They almost blew it
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: last week in Tampa. I mean, obviously the Rams have
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: I think the more powerful offense. But I think the
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: difference is going to be upfront for the Rams getting
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: at Jimmy, just rattling them. And I think they're gonna
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be their mission is to get at him
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: early and set the tone, and I think they will
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: and I think the Rams win both ways. So sorry,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: are we all unslock step in this game? The only
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: different pick was Eric took Cincinnati points for the points. Yeah,
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: there you go. That's unfortunate. After last weekend there were
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: just so many competitive nine games And yeah, yeah, I
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, maybe it'll play out different. It
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean they won't be competitive, fun games. They could.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: I it's gonna be hard to match last week. Week
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: was one of the best argument football. It's an argument
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: to be made. That was the best weekend of playoff
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: football in NFL history. Yeah, well, with the mount of shoveling,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do Hatreots weren't involved without doing
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: any research whatsoever to check that. Yeah, all right, well listen,
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be it. Probably the best weekend. The best
• 1:57:26
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• 1:57:30
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• 1:57:34
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• 1:57:40
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• 1:57:43
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