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Fanatics Flag Football Reaction, Raiders Future, March Madness & NFL Outlook · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: and Out podcast? How are we doing? My people? It
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: is Sunday night. I just uh, I actually got out
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  Speaker 1: of the infrared sauna. My Jim redid the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: so it's been down for like five months. The old
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: school sauna from like the eighties nineties. That thing cranks.
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  Speaker 1: Those are you? I see people on Instagram using them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, how cool could it be? I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the red light does, but the infrared sauna is
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  Speaker 1: hot as a mother. So I'm feeling good. I'm fired up,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, we're gonna talk to some football. We got
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: flag football going on, some thoughts Mark Davis Raider's succession plan.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: The NCAA tournament has everyone up in arms over nil
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  Speaker 1: and in the transfer portal it's like it will never
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: be the same, Well, yeah it won't. And some other
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: NFL stuff. We got Carson Wentz, the Ravens over under
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  Speaker 1: the Jets, dead cap space with quarterbacks who might retire
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  Speaker 1: and on different teams. Pretty good life lesson to a
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: gms and coaches, But you guys know the drill. If
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  Speaker 1: you listen on Collins Feed, make sure you subscribe. And
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: you can watch all the videos on Netflix. Appreciate everyone
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: checking that out. And let's just talk a little. Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady in flag football treating that flag football game like
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  Speaker 1: Monday Night football. God heat the clips I saw, It's
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  Speaker 1: like that guy misses it. That guy wants to play
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  Speaker 1: football right now. For all the money Fox is paying them,
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  Speaker 1: all the sweet country clubs. He's in in Florida, flying
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  Speaker 1: pj's all over the place, posted instagrams about his sweet watches.
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  Speaker 1: There is nothing, and I repeat nothing that man misses
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  Speaker 1: more than playing football. I was just starting with football
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  Speaker 1: actually because I saw the clips. I mean the clip
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  Speaker 1: of Tom Brady avoiding the rush and throwing the dime
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  Speaker 1: to Digs in the back of the end zone. It's
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  Speaker 1: like I've said this forever. The number one advice I
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  Speaker 1: give any human being is to try to find whatever
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna do when you're you know, usually you're thinking
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  Speaker 1: about this when you're in college, not necessarily high school,
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  Speaker 1: but you start developing these things when you're young. Find
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  Speaker 1: something you're passionate about to do, because if you do,
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  Speaker 1: it is so much easier to work, because no matter
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  Speaker 1: what job we do, we all end up working, right
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: whether you're a podcaster, I don't care what you do.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: It becomes there's just a monotonous it's a job element.
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  Speaker 1: You become numb to it. You're just doing something for money,
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  Speaker 1: no matter how much you love, no matter how much
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  Speaker 1: passion you have. But that passion and that love for
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  Speaker 1: whatever you're doing is able to make it more enjoyable.
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  Speaker 1: It's able to make you work long and harder, when
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people just would tap out because they
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  Speaker 1: don't care. I know this. If I did basically ninety
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  Speaker 1: eight percent of other things in life, I would suck
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  Speaker 1: because I wouldn't take it seriously. I wouldn't get it
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  Speaker 1: there early, I wouldn't stay late. I wouldn't think about
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  Speaker 1: it on the weekends. I wouldn't work on the weekends.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to. All I'd be thinking about is
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  Speaker 1: going home and doing other stuff. And when you watch
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady, that guy loves playing football. The one clip
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  Speaker 1: I saw is like, man, this guy misses throwing a
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  Speaker 1: football in the National Football League, And like, I think,
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  Speaker 1: in a different world and a different life, if maybe
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  Speaker 1: he didn't have some stuff going off the field with
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  Speaker 1: his ex wife now who somehow just had a kid
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  Speaker 1: at like forty five years old. I didn't even know
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  Speaker 1: that was possible, but she pulled it off with the
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  Speaker 1: karate instructor. It's like that guy misses it. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: watching this and I see this clip of Joe Burrow. Listen.
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  Speaker 1: I saw all these takes on the internet about flag football.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot different than the NFL to think that
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  Speaker 1: we got smoked. I mean, you got to play offense
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  Speaker 1: and defense. The quarterback situation a little bit different. But
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  Speaker 1: I know one thing. These businesses and Mark Davis, the
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  Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders who are now the Vegas Raiders, are valued
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  Speaker 1: at ten billion dollars. The Tish family, who I mean
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  Speaker 1: the was a Steve Tish who's bff with Epstein is
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  Speaker 1: trying to push that shit to his kids so they
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  Speaker 1: leave him alone. That thing's valued at basically eleven billion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins, who I don't think have won a
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  Speaker 1: playoff game for twenty five years. He just sold a
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  Speaker 1: couple percent to just get a little cash influx. Twelve
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  Speaker 1: point five billion dollars. I mean, these franchises. Think about this.
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  Speaker 1: If you know a human being that owned an HVAC
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  Speaker 1: company or owned some company and started scaling it and
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  Speaker 1: did really well, and someone offered him fifty million dollars
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  Speaker 1: if he crushed it and got one hundred million dollars. Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the richer guys in my community. This guy,
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  Speaker 1: the American Dream, built up this company, sold it, had
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  Speaker 1: this fur, and these banks are coming for seventy five
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  Speaker 1: million dollars. These teams, I mean, are you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Dolphins who never win are valued
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  Speaker 1: at a combine twenty two point five billion dollars. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at Joe Burrow, who is a fifty or
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  Speaker 1: sixty million dollar quarterback who has dealt with injuries, jukin
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  Speaker 1: doing three sixties. I'm like, my heart dropped. And I
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  Speaker 1: just saw the clip that was twelve hours after the fact.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine yesterday if gms or coaches were just
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  Speaker 1: at home with their family. It's a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a slow time. Just flipped on the television on the couch,
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  Speaker 1: maybe having a cold one, and said, honey, let's take
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  Speaker 1: a look at Burrow and Jaden Daniels and Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 1: They had to go what this is because listen, you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's a fun time. Little risky, and then you're watching
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. I know there have been talking the
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  Speaker 1: NFL is big on flag football because they're going international,
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  Speaker 1: They're going here, they're going there. They're trying to get
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  Speaker 1: every fucking winging dick in the world to just tune
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  Speaker 1: into an NFL game so they can one day sell
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  Speaker 1: the media rights for seven trillion dollars. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: You're either growing it or dying on. No one in
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  Speaker 1: life wants to make less. I'm not anti business here,
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  Speaker 1: not rooting for I root for success here, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: football or whatever you do. That's where we celebrate that.
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  Speaker 1: I do think this thing, though, is a slippery slope
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  Speaker 1: because the clip I saw of Joe Burrow doing the
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  Speaker 1: three sixty. For a guy that's got a long resume
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  Speaker 1: of being on the shelf, I can't imagine Zach Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: We can make fun of Mike Brown all you want.
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  Speaker 1: The guy signing the checks, and those checks that hit
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  Speaker 1: Joe's direct deposits seem to be pretty big. I went, Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: this is I have to wonder the owners meetings here
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  Speaker 1: in a week. If a couple of people are gonna
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  Speaker 1: raise their hands and go I get it. We got
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  Speaker 1: a union, We got J. C. Trader who say he
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  Speaker 1: never wanted to operate and be the boss. Now he's
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  Speaker 1: in charge. We got a lot going on, But is
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  Speaker 1: there any way that we could just use like replacement
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  Speaker 1: players and just let those dudes from Team USA. Let
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of those guys do it. I get it
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  Speaker 1: might help the league a tiny, tiny percent. They have
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  Speaker 1: a couple famous guys, but this isn't basketball. You can't
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  Speaker 1: roll out Lebron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Michael Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: Charles Barkley, Kobe Bryant and not really worry they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get injured. This is football, and we see it time
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  Speaker 1: and time again in OTAs in training camp, when you
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  Speaker 1: don't even have the pads on in practices during the season,
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  Speaker 1: a guy has a major injury, changing direction. That is
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  Speaker 1: how ACL's achilles, Especially for these guys who are probably
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of training right wherever in Florida, Dallas,
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles, wherever they're living, working with their personal trainer
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  Speaker 1: doing just physical resistant stuff, obviously track work to go
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  Speaker 1: out and play full speed against other NFL players. The
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  Speaker 1: clip of Burrow is step On Diggs, who last time
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  Speaker 1: I checked pretty high end athlete trying to tackle him
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  Speaker 1: in the open, or not tackle, but rip the flag.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I got nervous watching a clip that
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  Speaker 1: I knew was old. I mean, it's just I'm not
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  Speaker 1: anti flag football. I'm not like some of these people
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  Speaker 1: that the America should be embarrassed. It's all in fun.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really care. But the number one thing that
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  Speaker 1: crossed my mind was like, there are gonna be some
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  Speaker 1: hands that come up at this owner's meetings, like, guys,
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  Speaker 1: there's too much on the line, Like we're paying too
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  Speaker 1: much money, we're all in business together. This does not
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  Speaker 1: make sense, Like if I'm Josh Harris, like Jade Daniels
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  Speaker 1: breaks his leg or it doesn't even need to be
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  Speaker 1: some devastating injury. It's like, is this even worth it?
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: I did appreciate Gronk that I read that he pulled
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  Speaker 1: his hamstring. But the other thing that is from an
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  Speaker 1: NFL standpoint and back to the valuation is Mark Davis.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite numbers I've ever read
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  Speaker 1: because the story comes out from Wickersham and Vanada that
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  Speaker 1: the owners are going to vote on a succession plan
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  Speaker 1: for Mark Davis and the Raiders because doesn't have any
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  Speaker 1: children if he's seventy one years old, so he's not
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  Speaker 1: exactly a supreme chicken. And you know, I think he's
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  Speaker 1: lived pretty hard, living a good life. I saw on
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  Speaker 1: the internet. And you know, the move to Vegas has
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  Speaker 1: been very, very fruitful for the Raiders. There is absolutely
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  Speaker 1: no denying that their stadium is incredible. Don't have a
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  Speaker 1: home field advantage, but financially, the practice facility, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think most of you now, I would imagine
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people listening to this have never been
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  Speaker 1: to an NFL practice facility. They're not exactly at least
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: maybe it's changing a little bit, but most of us
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  Speaker 1: have seen the clips of Ohio State or LSU or Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they look like spaceships. That's not really the
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  Speaker 1: NFL because a huge part of college was well that
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  Speaker 1: was before I could pay the players. That's probably gonna
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  Speaker 1: slow down a little bit. But also like it was recruiting,
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  Speaker 1: like I needed it to be cool because I needed
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  Speaker 1: you to say I want to play. There were in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. I pick you right, So it's not recruiting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of these old school. NFL practice
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  Speaker 1: facilities were not great. The Raiders before they moved to
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  Speaker 1: Vegas had to be right up there, if not the
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  Speaker 1: worst in the league. It was this old bank in Alameda,
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  Speaker 1: kind of by the Oakland Airport. It was really really shitty,
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  Speaker 1: So Mark Davis and Jerry who pushed for it because
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: when they didn't allow them to go to Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: to get to Vegas, went from the outhouse to the penthouse.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the stadium they played in at the Coliseum
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  Speaker 1: that they should take, you know, as much explosive devices
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  Speaker 1: as humanly possible and blow that fucking thing to smithereens.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Because you talk about a shithole that that is not
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: that's being too nice to describe it as that. I mean,
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: it's whatever, the most negative description you could think of.
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  Speaker 1: That is how I would describe the Coliseum. I mean
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  Speaker 1: a dumps dump, it truly is. And now he's just
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  Speaker 1: in a state of the art in a place that
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  Speaker 1: is funneling the money like that. It's worked. But in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, and this is a good life lesson
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  Speaker 1: because you never know, like you truly never know. I
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: saw this clip, you know, the thing of Timberlake. I
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: didn't even watch it. I just saw the headline of
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: him getting the dewey is going viral. But I also
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: saw that Luke Combs, It's gonna come back to Timberlake
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: told the Busting with the Boys guys that he thought
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Chris Stapleton's success made it popular for country music to
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  Speaker 1: give fat guys and ugly guys a chance who could sing,
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  Speaker 1: because before they just wanted like really good looking guys.
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  Speaker 1: And Chris Stapleton was a guy that no one would
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  Speaker 1: give a chance to until he got on stage with
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  Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake. I think it was like twenty fifteen or
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  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen at the CMA's and just it's an all
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  Speaker 1: time performance. If you haven't seen it, YouTube Stapleton and Timberlake,
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  Speaker 1: And because I've seen a bunch of these instagrams, it
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: must be in my algorithm. And today in my algorithm
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  Speaker 1: it was like this podcast of this guy interviewing Stapleton's manager,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like the day before that performance with Timberlake,
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  Speaker 1: they were booking like twelve hundred dollars a day or
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: night gigs like that. That's what Stapleton would get. The
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  Speaker 1: day after the CMA performance with Timberlake. They were immediately
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  Speaker 1: getting offers for three hundred thousand dollars, So in twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hours his life changed like that. Now, that's not
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  Speaker 1: an overnight success, Stapleton would tell you, because he'd been
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  Speaker 1: playing music and writing music for decades. No one would
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  Speaker 1: give him a chance because, you know, as Luke Comb said,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: he was fat, even though he's got one of the
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  Speaker 1: greatest voices you'll ever hear. I mean, there's no disputing
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: whether you like his genre of music or not, Like
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  Speaker 1: you'd have to be like, you're just wrong if you
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  Speaker 1: say the guy can't sing, and I think we'd all
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  Speaker 1: agree the guy can sing. And I saw that. Al
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  Speaker 1: Davis in nineteen sixty six purchased ten percent of the
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  Speaker 1: Raiders for ten thousand dollars. Now, obviously inflation time value
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  Speaker 1: money things were different. Ten thousand dollars in nineteen sixty
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  Speaker 1: six clearly was not like ten thousand dollars now, right,
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  Speaker 1: So it was probably a lot of money, and people
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  Speaker 1: around him like this is are you sure like this
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  Speaker 1: thing's worth one hundred thousand dollars? Where are we going? Television?
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  Speaker 1: You know, radio was dominant at the time, Baseball was huge,
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  Speaker 1: but he bought something that, you know, whatever, sixty seventy
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  Speaker 1: years later is worth ten billion dollars. And clearly television
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  Speaker 1: changed the power of the NFL in the best way
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  Speaker 1: humanly possible, right, And there have been stories about the
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: NFL wanting to re engage with the networks because they
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: feel they're way underpaid. Currently, the NBA is like they're
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: charging more per viewer than the NFL, and obviously the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: If you've ever seen that clip of the most watched
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  Speaker 1: television shows one hundred of the year, it's like ninety
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  Speaker 1: percent the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But ultimately a point is Mark Davis, I've always felt
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  Speaker 1: this way about the Raiders is they always had like
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  Speaker 1: this collegiate vibe to it, and I always thought it
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  Speaker 1: was really cool. I remember when I was in radio
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  Speaker 1: and we would go in all their former players, guys
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  Speaker 1: that were legends before I was even born, right like
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: you know, the the Ken Stabler kind of Crew Ray guy,
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  Speaker 1: the guys that played for John Madden in the seventies,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: the ones that were still alive were always welcome, and
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: their big thing was once a Raider, always a Raider.
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  Speaker 1: And I always felt like the Lakers with Doctor Buss
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  Speaker 1: had a sit. Now, obviously the Lakers under Doctor Buss
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  Speaker 1: were much more successful. Well, I mean Al Davis won
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: three championships, right, He won one with Madden and he
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: won two more with Tom Floors in the in the eighties.
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  Speaker 1: But then they had a really rough sketch stretch. For
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: the most part, Duc Buss didn't lose like his down years,
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: were still making the playoffs. My point is it just
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: felt like both those two organizations just had a great
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: connection with people that played there. And then doctor Bus
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  Speaker 1: and Al Davis died. And I'm not Al Davis and
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: doctor Buss were different people, but legends in their field.
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  Speaker 1: Like when you think about the NBA and you think
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: about the NFL and you just say ownership in the
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: history of the league, Al Davis and doctor Buss will
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  Speaker 1: be two of the first people you think about in
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: both their respective sports. Their kids were clearly over their head.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Now I can't speak to Genie Bus and the rest
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: of the clowns you know in her family. Mark Davis
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  Speaker 1: is a really nice guy. He was always really cool
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  Speaker 1: to me. He didn't always agree with what I said,
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  Speaker 1: but I always respected. Like I haven't met most of
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: the owners in the NFL. But one thing Mark could
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  Speaker 1: do is he could come sit down at a table
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  Speaker 1: and just talk. He could be pretty normal, and there
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: was some normality to a guy that has an asset
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  Speaker 1: that's worth billions upon billions of dollars. But a lot
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: like the Lakers when they sold to the Dodger Group,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: everyone said, like, the ceiling has risen dramatically, And I
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: think there are some similarities there with the Raiders because
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  Speaker 1: Mark Davis simply does not have the money to run
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the team at the level in which it needs to
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: be run now. And a huge reason the Raiders have
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: dipped their toe and been more aggressive over the last
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: couple of years talking to people around the league has
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  Speaker 1: been the guys that these billionaire guys, the two separate guys,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: and Brady's not cutting the checks, but it's two buddies
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  Speaker 1: are getting involved and they're paying guys like Chip Kelly
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  Speaker 1: six million dollars a year and they realize they fucked
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  Speaker 1: that up. They paid him to get the hell out
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: of their building immediately, and the Raiders in a short
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: period of time financially obviously, they took a huge jump.
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  Speaker 1: They get when they got to Vegas, got some influx
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  Speaker 1: of cash. But the influx since they've let these guys
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  Speaker 1: buy in has really changed the game. So they're going
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: to sell to the VC guy and the other VC
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: guy again, I'm gonna butcher their names. All their percentages
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  Speaker 1: are gonna go up. Tom Brady's already has a piece.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe he will buy more. I do think Brady,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I've seen people say like Robert Kraft should
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: have just given him a percentage of the team and
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: kept him around, Or what if Steven Ross would have
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  Speaker 1: let him be a player and then transition to a
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: GM and give him a percentage. All that sounds great,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: but I don't think there's a place in the league
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  Speaker 1: that a guy that owns such a tiny percentage could
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: have more juice than the team with the Raiders. And
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: that is only going to continue, potentially when he sells
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  Speaker 1: to the guys, because that's who Brady came in with,
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  Speaker 1: and they're the ones funneling these ideas. I mean, look
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: at Spytech. He goes back with Tom the Tampa. So
• 17:50
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• 18:02
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• 18:27
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• 18:45
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• 18:50
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• 18:54
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• 18:59
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• 19:01
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• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Khalil Mack was on the Chicago Bears is because they
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: didn't have the cash to give him the contract that
• 19:09
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• 19:12
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• 19:16
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• 19:23
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• 19:26
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• 19:30
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• 19:34
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• 19:36
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• 19:39
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• 19:42
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• 19:45
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• 19:58
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• 22:12
  Speaker 1: seen in March Madness. You know coach cal high Point
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: on I don't even think I'd ever heard a high
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: point and watching them against Arkansas, who I have a
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: fifty to one future on to win the national championship.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So I was rooting heavily for them. Midway through the game,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the greatest mid major twelve seat
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen before. I looked them up and read
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: these articles about how they have like these rooms with
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: first class seats that you can sit down to get
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: used to talking to people in first class for business.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Of course everyone on Twitter is making fun of them.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: It's like, that is the most practical thing I've ever
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: seen a college. You know, do the amount of stuff
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: going on on college campuses that are completely worthless the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: moment you walk across that stage with a degree. Stuff
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: like that. More colleges to try to institute how do
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: we elevate you in the real world where it's all
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: about making money and doing deals if you're gonna enter
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the private sector, which the majority of people going to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: college are gonna do. So props to high Point for
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: having that. I didn't realize Super Rich School basically an
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: IV down in North Carolina. But coach cal after the game,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: because they easially could have lost, I mean, they were
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: in major, major trouble started giving them a bunch of credit.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: They had, like chartered a jet for their fans. And
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: he's basically said, you know, coaches can win and lose games,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: but administrations win championships. And this thing is like NIL
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: has changed the game. Like on Friday, all sixteen favorites
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: won the game for the first time since like two
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: thousand and eight. In back to back years, no thirteen, fourteen,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen seed won a game. It's like nil
• 23:56
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• 23:59
  Speaker 1: to do I didn't go to UCLA. It didn't go
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to Michigan, right, so I've always rooted for the underdog.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget watching Davidson and Steph Curry have that run.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: It was incredible. It was awesome, like VCU is Shaka
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Smart or Butler with Brad Stevenson. Like, unless you're one
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: of the big school snobs, which if I was a
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: big school snob, I hate the fucking little guy. You
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: think Jeff Bezos is root for the mom and pop shop,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: of course not so. I totally understand when you go
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: to little schools like I did, like cal Pauly and
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: we made the tournament one time in my life. He
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: were sixteen seed. I think we played Kansas and lost
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: by like seventy five in the first round and actually
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: had to play in that sixteen sixteen playing game. But
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: like this tournament and college football as well, nil has
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: completely changed everything. I'm old enough to remember a world
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: that did not have the Internet. Then the Internet came
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and chaos ensued. Why there aren't rules on the Internet.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: There are more now, but historically there weren't. Listen, I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: can speak from experience. When I got out of football,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I went to radio. Guess what a lot of rules.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: There are things you can and can't say in my
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: job now I've been a podcaster for almost ten years.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Guess what, no rules? Maybe a little bit more because
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I have big advertisers and partners. No one's ever told
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: me what I can and can't say. But it's like
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna rip a company that I know, Like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: we're in business talks to get involved, right, But that's
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: just smart business, not because anyone's telling me what I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: can and can't do. I can say whatever I want,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and any word coming out of my mouth is also allowed.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: You can't swear on the radio, So what's a huge
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: advantage for podcasts kind of real and authentic. What has
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: radio lacked like feels very corporate? Of course it does.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: It is corporate. What are we not? One day podcast
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: probably becomes way more corporate. That's inevitably how most things go.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Like do you think Uber destroyed? Taxis could not have
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: existed without the Internet and technology? What do you think
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: did en Blockbuster streaming? Boom? See you? And Nil is
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: no different than like I remember forever. I come from
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: a small town. We do not want Target around. I
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: remember hearing that forever when I was a kid. No Target,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: No Target, No Target. Guess what's been in Davis, California
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: for the last like ten years. Target. Guess what's packed
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: every single day? Target. Guess what's not around as much anymore?
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: The mom and pop shops that were in business around
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the vicinity. So I just think part of the big
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: money and the transfer portal. Yeah, the teams with the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: money are going to get all the talent and the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: little mid major the butler's. I said this the other day.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I underestimated like when Luke Fickle was at the University
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati and they ran the table and they played
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: in that BCS game against Alabama, and just got their
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: teeth kicked in. I was like, that's that's a really
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: impressive coaching job. And they've Sas Gardner a hundred million
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: dollar player, Alec Pierce a hundred million dollar player, Kobe
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Bryant fifty million dollar player, just won a Super Bowl.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: It's like, now they had some high end talent. They
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: had a quarterback he had drafted, they had a good
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: running back. I'm sure I'm missing some other guys that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: played in the NFL. Well, guess what would have happened
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six with that team. Those guys would
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: have been poached from Oregon, from Texas, from Ohio State,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: from Indiana, Like Indiana. It is an incredible story, the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: all time losing his program in the history of Division
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: one college football. They historically suck well, kind of makes sense.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: They were in a conference with Michigan and Ohio State
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and they were a basketball school. Completely turns it around.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Obviously they got to coach right. They found this Jem
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti, who's a star. But why was he able
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to do it so fast? It would not have been
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: humanly possible ten years ago. He could not have pulled
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: that off. Even if he was equally as good as
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a coach because Indiana's got a sh shitload of money
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and the transfer portal you can transfer whenever you want.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: So when I watch Butler and Gordon Hayward back with
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Brad Stevens, guess where he probably wouldn't have been Butler.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I was at Presnel State. We had Ryan Matthews. He
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: was drafted in the top fifteen to replace Ledanian Tomlinson.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Guess where Ryan Matthews would not have been probably after
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: his freshman year Fresnel State. So the transfer portal and
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the nil there are just no rules. So anytime there
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: are no rules, that is going to benefit to people
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the most those willing to do absolutely whatever it takes,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: and in business, the people with the most money. Like, listen,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: we all any of us that if you're listening to this,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm part of this, if you have a job
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: or in business that is through a contract, right, there
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: are things I'm allowed and not allowed to do because
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of the people I'm contracted with in business. Obviously in
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Netflix changed my video platform, there are rules behind that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: What's the number one thing all these college coaches are
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: bitching about one if they're at a school that doesn't
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: have the most money. You know who, I know, you're
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: never complaining about money, Steve Sarkizian, Ryan Day, Dan Lanning,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: you do who are begging for pennies? Kenny Dillingham. If
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you work for Amazon, you're not crying poor, right. So
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I think a huge part of this tournament, like the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: soul has been lost because any of those teams. And
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: this is what came out about high Point is like
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: that's incredied. God, this team's awesome. It turns out they
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: got a guy from Kentucky, as Cal said, like I
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: heard Gottlieb say this, there's probably not many mid majors
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: that spent as much on their basketball team as high Point,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and once everyone found out, none of the Power four
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: teams would play them, and it shows they look like
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a five seed, not the little engine the kid could
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: they bought their team as they should if they have
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the money. So I just think part of the college
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: experience now is like big bang and take a little bank.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: And it's always been that way right in North Carolina
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: or Duke in basketball, or Ohio State or USC and
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: football in theory, could always Kentucky, you guys know what
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, could always get the best players. And that's true. Well,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: now they still can draw because I saw Kentucky that
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: lost spent twenty million dollars on their roster, that they
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: spent ten million dollars more than Iowa State, who's ranked higher,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and beat them. Now, just because you have the money
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're guaranteed to win, right, but it helps, right, Yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers are clearly have the most money and are
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: well run, but the Mets and the Phillies benefit from
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: having big payrolls. The Blue Jays, the Yankees, like, you
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: don't always have to hit. But it's like you think
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: they make them. You know why they made the movie
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Moneyball not because Billy Bean one is just a great name,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and two when he was younger was really good looking
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: could be played by Brad Pitton. It wasn't even that weird.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: It was because he ran a team that spent no
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: money on players who were going toe to toe with
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the Yankees in the Red Sox. That's why. And that's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: very difficult to do now in college sports. And if
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: you look at football, who do you think is going
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: to die? It's why when we watched Apple Lash and
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: State and the other program, I forget off the top
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: of my head that wade the playoffs, Like, what are
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: we doing here now? In college basketball? The tournament's so big,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: it's a no brainer letting the little guys. But the
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: little guy now has no shot because even if they
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: had the guys, that guy is not on their team
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: potentially for more than a semester. So like, listen, the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: game's changed. I don't think we're going back. I talked
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: about this the other day. You know, unionize, like you
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: unionize when you're getting screwed. You know who's not getting
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: screwed right now? The players. They're all making bank. They
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: get one hundred percent of the leverage, do whatever they
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: want whenever they want. Until that changes, it went forever
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: they had no control. Now they got all the control,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: and the teams with the most money have the best
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: ability to control where those guys go, because that's where
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: they're going to gravitate toward. So I listen, I love
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the tournament. I was blown away by high Point. But
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: like Arkansas in the second, a cuff doesn't come cheap,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, look at most of these teams.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: They have the highest paid players. Now, just because you
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: have a great player, you still need to build a
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: good team. Right. We watched BYU not make it out
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: of the first round and lost to Texas. But it's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: not like Texas some low budget operation. I mean, Sarks
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: roster reportedly's like fifty million dollars this year. In football,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: they'll promise you this. They're not spending five hundred k
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: on their roster. And basketball, he's probably got some dudes,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: got Sean Miller, who's i mean, kind of knows what
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: he's doing. I still like the tournament. I enjoy it,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: but a little bit like college football, it's completely changed.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And this goes back to Colin saying huge advantage nil
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: for the Big Ten. It's true Indiana hasn't just thrown
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: their hat in the ring. They are a power broker
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: because it's like, okay, floodgates are open. We got money,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and it's not just about brown bagging a guy like
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Nick Saban for twenty five k. So no, I'm gonna
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: get that guy two million dollars and I'm gonna give
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: this guy in the next seventeen guys nine hundred grand
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: and it's all guaranteed and you don't have to worry
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: about Like this goes back to a lot of people
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: have mentioned this, the car dealership thing, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, State, Oregon.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: They're not dependent on that. And I'm an SEC guy.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I'm a West Coast SEC guy. But football is gonna
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: be difficult. Basketball it's cheaper, so you can compete in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: basketball if you have a lot of money and buy
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the right guys and have the right coach. But the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: one thing basketball does parallel football with there still is
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: a chemistry element to the sport. There still is a
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: cohesion element to the sport. This isn't baseball where it's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: like I'll just buy these three guys, put one at third,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: one at first, and one in center field. That's not
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: really how it works. And you see, like I watched
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Saint John's, they play really really well together, like they
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: are just they feel like they have a lot of chemistry.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Last time I checked, they've been playing together for a minute.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: The dude on the team has been there for like
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: their main star who's the defensive Player of the year,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: is the MVP of the conference, academic All American, been
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: there for like four years. You know kind of matters
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: like that still matters in basketball. It still matters in
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: football and you can try to buy your way out.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I watched aj debonsa who looks like the lock number
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: one overall pick going there? Who the fuck am I playing?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: With a couple other quick stories for we out of here?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I saw the Ravens have the highest over under in
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the National Football League. That'd seemed a little bold. You know,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I get they had a weird season, but I don't know.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: You got a brand new coach, you got a first
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: time play caller. One thing we're gonna learn this year
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: is because there is I think added pressure now on
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: this Max Crosby, Trey hendrickson the pick, Like, there's listen,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the moment they fired Jim Harbor or John harbaughd no
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: different than the Bills the moment they hired Sean McDermott.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Two teams with the most pressure for the new young
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: coaches are those two programs. You got Lamar Jackson, you
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: got Josh Allen like AFC Championship game or bust which listen,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: like I risk moving firing a guy, but there eighteen
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: years you've blown a bunch of games. Like, I totally
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  Speaker 1: To me, That over under this goes back to the
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow flag football thing. I think it could be
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. Like if their defense comes together, they have
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  Speaker 1: I think the Bengals right now would be my choice
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  Speaker 1: seventeen of the games, I'm probably in which I also
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  Speaker 1: seventeen of the eighteen games. It's like, that's the dumbest
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  Speaker 1: Jefferson or whatever, it's like, oh, this is the game
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  Speaker 1: he sits out like this. Ain't the NBA or BAT
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  Speaker 1: or baseball like this. There's no just taking games off
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  Speaker 1: to sign back with the Vikings. You see this coming
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  Speaker 1: from mile away. I would say fifty to fifty chance
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  Speaker 1: JJ's on the roster week one. I would say they
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• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray. I mean, both those two guys could
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: be injured by October first. But I just we've seen
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: this song and dance. You know, we have history of
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the way these guys operate. I'm on talk of Minnesota,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: but just teams and gms like I'm not emotional about this,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: people like you hate. I love it when people are
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• 39:28
  Speaker 1: in August to make the Super Bowl. I have no
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: ill will or malice toward any of these organizations. I'll
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: be the first to admit, like, I didn't think the
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Caleb Ben Johnson thing would have work. They kind of did,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you know. I got no problem saying when I was wrong,
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  Speaker 1: But the JJM and I didn't have a strong take
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  Speaker 1: about JJ coming out like, It's not like I was
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  Speaker 1: anti JJ the college prospect. I thought, like, he's like
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. It turns out, no, he could not be
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. And guess who knows that now the Minnesota
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Vikings wind on this one thing that is so evident
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years, Like you signed Lamar or
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes and they
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: get injured, Obviously you're in trouble. Right most of the time,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: your backup is gonna stink and you're gonna roll out
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew or Kyle Allen or whatever. Like that's you're
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: all in. It's back to the thing that Tom Moore
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: told John Gruden when John Gruden was doing Monday Night
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Football and did a Colts practice and looked at Tom
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Moore and says, why is Peyton Manning? Like, why does
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  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning take every single rep? Or why doesn't the
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  Speaker 1: backup get any reps just to like just in case.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: And he said, because if Peyton Manning goes out, we're
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: fucked and we don't practice fucked Like I get that.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: And when you have a superstar quarterback, it is what
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: it is. Even the year. I know everyone likes to say,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: well Belichick went eleven and six with Matt Castle. They
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs. Now, freaky Dolphins, whatever, but still
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: they missed the left. Ultimately, point is this, if you're
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: going to pay a quarterback, his floor better be And
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking this version of Cousins, but the guy
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota that's got to be like the worst version.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: It's gotta be Dak Jared Goff like kind of that world, right, Purty,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I mean somewhere seven to thirteen. If this guy's floor
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: can be in the twenties, you're going to regret it dramatically.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: And I saw this headline that the Jets are paying
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Justin Fields a combined fifty million dollars
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: in dead cap space. Obviously, the Aaron Rodgers thing was
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: mismanagement injury. He's an all time great quarterback. But we
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: all had the same reaction when they gave Justin Fields
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: two years forty million dollars. That's the craziest thing I've
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: ever seen, and no different than when they gave two
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars. You're like what, Or
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: when Kyler Murray's agent was like threatening the Arizona Cardinals
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: saying they don't want to win, It's like, no, we
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: just don't want to pay your quarterback yet. And somehow
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: they capitulated, and the agent and the quarterback got filthy rich.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And not only they regret it, it's been a disaster since.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: And Jonathan Gannon and got run out of town, so
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: did Kingsbury, so did Steve Kayle, and so will Monty
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Austin for more than likely, because that's what poor quarterback
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: contracts do. They get every single person fired. And you know,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: cousins that go round with Atlanta got everyone fired. You
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: can't give a guy one hundred million dollars who can't play.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: That was that was insane. It was insane at the
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: time and an age even worse. So I think it
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: shows you even when you give the Jordan Love, the
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: brock Purty, the Dak who obviously you're paying a premium,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you don't feel great because at the end of the day,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, my best player is uh think
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: about it like basketball terms, like, oh, Jalen Brunson, Yeah,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: he's awesome, He's been a great nick.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: But would I rather have Jokic? Would I rather have
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: like uh, Luca? Would I rather have like Steph Curry
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: or Lebron in his prime or Kevin Durant in is prime.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Like I mean, there are.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Levels to it. So it's like, yeah, you pay Dak Prescott,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you oh well, damn good, we can make the playoffs.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: But I'd rather have some of these other guys. That's
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: part of the business. But if you're ever like this
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: seems crazy, you probably shouldn't do the deal. Like there
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: is some common sense to some of this, and I
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: do wonder if it's gonna shift back dramatically, and we've seen,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I think the Sam Darnold contract, the Baker
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Mayfield contract, like some guys are just worth twenty five
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. Some guys are worth eighteen million dollars.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: It's my thing with Daniel Jones, like, why can't you
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: sign him like two years forty million dollars? Why can't
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: he the Justin Fields contract somehow? And listen, I give
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of respect to Daniel Jones his management team
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: because they dominate negotiations. They basically said bend over and
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's like what, He's like, no, we're gonna win this,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: You're gonna lose this, and they did. I mean they
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: always do so. Uh. I just some of these quarterback contracts.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I've gotten a lot of people fired that they really
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: have because it's one thing like you fire a coach,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: who usually hires the coach the owner. Like no coach
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: has ever been hired without the owner not only probably
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: wanting him, but signing off on it. It's why when
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: wood he came back, Saul was fired. Now he wasn't
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: doing well, but he didn't hire him. So it's like
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: that's why they Aaron Glenn thing like it's kind of
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: getting weird because it's Woody's guy. Wood He picked them.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: But with players like owners, these guys don't know football lingo.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: They don't watch film. They're fucking on a yacht, hanging
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: out as with the new giants hanging with Epstein. It's
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: just it's a fact. I'm not even taking personal jabs here.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: This is a reality. Uh. I just think that gotta
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: be careful and you better know, you better be right.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: The volume
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