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#27: Felicia Pasadyn Became an Elite Marathoner Training Differently · The People Run Podcast

0:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm curious, you know, we we kind of joked at it earlier.
0:02
SPEAKER_00: The Stair Master Queen, and you know, you cross-train a seven-mile run, uh two-hour bike, one hour Pilates, uh, sauna.
0:11
SPEAKER_00: Um how did you come up with that style of training?
0:15
SPEAKER_00: Because you know, all you hear, even more so now, since you cross that New York and OTQ'd, is like, hey, everyone does high mileage and so elite.
0:23
SPEAKER_00: This is what they're doing.
0:24
SPEAKER_00: How did you come up with this style that works for you?
0:26
SPEAKER_01: After finishing my collegiate swim career, longs are gonna be able to do long runs and hard runs, but your joints might not be able to.
0:33
SPEAKER_01: So I started running three days a week.
0:40
SPEAKER_00: Welcome everybody to the People Run podcast.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Fitz.
0:45
SPEAKER_00: Today I have uh Felicia who is an unreal runner.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you may know her, but we're about to delve in some more.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: Not only is she an unreal runner, as we'll talk about, she's funny as hell.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you watch and follow her Instagram and all the stuff she shares on our Instagram jokes and inside tips, but I'm not gonna give too much away.
1:03
SPEAKER_00: I want to get right into it right away.
1:05
SPEAKER_00: But first and foremost, Felicia, thank you for hopping on.
1:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm probably saying this in a Spanish accent, it's just the Spanish in me, but thank you for hopping on the People Podcast.
1:14
SPEAKER_00: How are you doing today?
1:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm doing great, and I'm really excited to be here.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, same here.
1:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, well, look, I was thinking on this as I just shared with you jokingly, um, how to start this podcast off.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: And um, I came up with three ideas that I wanted to start with.
1:31
SPEAKER_00: And I at first I was like, you know what, I'm gonna give her the option to let her pick which we go with.
1:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh the first one is where you at with running right now.
1:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:43
SPEAKER_00: The second one is Olympic qualifying at New York.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: Everyone knows it's a really hilly course.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: It's unexpected that people would like qualifying less, let alone have a big PR at New York.
1:55
SPEAKER_00: And then your marathon trading would be the third option because you train in a very different way to like say Kenyans, American distance runners.
2:04
SPEAKER_00: That said though, I decided to pivot.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: I want to ask where are you at today if you're running?
2:10
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
2:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, you you're kind of dangling the carrot, like, oh, I'll let you pick.
2:15
SPEAKER_01: But at the end, you're saying, actually, never mind.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: This is where we're starting.
2:19
SPEAKER_00: This is where we're starting.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: I changed my mind.
2:21
SPEAKER_01: So I'll take it.
2:22
SPEAKER_01: I like that taking initiative.
2:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, so right now my January month of running has been pretty up and down, a little bit more so down, I would say.
2:30
SPEAKER_01: And the reason being is because I suffered an Achilles tendinopathy type pain leading up to the New York Marathon.
2:38
SPEAKER_01: And then I PT'd and rested my way through that appropriately and it went away.
2:43
SPEAKER_01: And then around late December, early January, when I progressed to my weighted eccentric unilateral physical therapy exercises, I think there's a chance I over-physical therapied my right foot because then I started getting lateral foot pain, specifically in the peronial tendon.
2:59
SPEAKER_01: Probably from over-supinating without realizing it, every rep that I was doing, every calf raise, every stair step, like, you know, hold slow down.
3:08
SPEAKER_01: So as a result, I've probably run three times in January, the first three weeks total, where I would run and then basically take a week off because the run wouldn't hurt.
3:18
SPEAKER_01: But then the morning after the pain would go back up to a five or six out of ten.
3:22
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I wasn't gonna try to run through that.
3:24
SPEAKER_01: Now I'm on a slow, progressive every other day plan.
3:28
SPEAKER_01: And then in between those days, I do a combination of stairmaster and cycling.
3:33
SPEAKER_01: And then I've been doing a lot of a mix of strength training and Pilates just to make sure that without as much impact on the foot, I can still maintain fitness for this half marathon I'm currently building for.
3:45
SPEAKER_00: That's what I love about your trading.
3:46
SPEAKER_00: So much cross-training.
3:47
SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna just go ahead and call you the stairmaster queen for the rest of this episode.
3:52
SPEAKER_01: I do love queen, so I think it makes sense.
3:56
SPEAKER_00: How are you feeling for uh I saw you announce you're in the elite field for Boston?
4:00
SPEAKER_00: How do you feel going into Boston given that, like, you know, right now you're recovering?
4:05
SPEAKER_01: You know, I haven't really mentally started my marathon build yet because I just have to take one day at a time with this foot.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: And I think that if I were to make an open Google document as I normally do for my marathon training plan and start mapping it out, I would just jump into mileage that I'm not ready for, or that the foot's not ready for, at least.
4:26
SPEAKER_01: My brain is.
4:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm excited.
4:28
SPEAKER_01: So very honored and pumped for the pro field, but just currently telling myself every single day the only version of Felicia I want to see in Boston is a healthy one.
4:38
SPEAKER_01: And so even if it's a slightly under-mileaged one, I think that I can do it, especially with the amount of volume I'm putting in on the site on the bike, the stationary bike, and the stairmaster.
4:49
SPEAKER_01: So I'll get there mentally.
4:50
SPEAKER_01: But for now, I'm just thinking more about the March 15th half that I'm I'm I'm looking at.
4:55
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: So you got a half in a few uh few weeks, actually, almost two months, something like that.
5:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, about five weeks out.
5:02
SPEAKER_01: You excited for it or or the New York half.
5:08
SPEAKER_01: And of what I've heard, it's like iconic.
5:11
SPEAKER_01: Ends in Times Square, starts in Brooklyn.
5:15
SPEAKER_01: And I believe, I don't know for sure, but I think this might be my last year living here.
5:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, never say never.
5:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I just want to make sure I get that one under my belt and do it before I move out, potentially in May.
5:28
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a way a way to go.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: See Times Square.
5:32
SPEAKER_00: I've heard big things of the race.
5:33
SPEAKER_01: Hard to get into, but uh Yeah, luckily got in.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
5:39
SPEAKER_00: Well, what uh what's been different for you since like, you know, all this attraction of Profield and you know, Boston, potentially you're gonna be on the pro field, you're gonna get bottle service and all that fun stuff.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: How do you feel about that and lining up against some pros?
5:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, the New York Marathon was my first ever Profield marathon that I ran.
5:57
SPEAKER_01: And I think that was the first time where I'm on the bus on the way to this Ocean Breezeway park where they treat us with nice snacks and PTs and chiropractors and masseuse people, and and then looking left and right and seeing, you know, like Helen O'Bieri is sitting just adjacent to me.
6:12
SPEAKER_01: It's an insane feeling.
6:15
SPEAKER_01: But I think I'm someone where instead of feeling so intimidated about it, like I just get so excited, knowing that I'm kind of in over my head, like I'm not really a two, a sub at that time I wasn't even a sub 240 marathoner, but feeling like I have to rise to the occasion.
6:33
SPEAKER_01: So let's just see what happens today.
6:35
SPEAKER_01: So I'm excited for that to be, you know, reinvigorated within me when April rolls around.
6:41
SPEAKER_01: But again, I think for now, I'm just taking things one day at a time.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: I would say on the day-to-day things that have changed in my life would be yeah, just a lot of people reaching out on social media, like overwhelmingly very positive, people just saying that it's an inspirational story or that they've learned a lot on how to prevent injury from the fact that they now do a lot more cross-training.
7:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then yeah, also just companies realizing that they are interested in potentially partnering with someone, you know, of um who has made Olympic trials.
7:10
SPEAKER_01: But it's funny because you you I know like I'm still the same exact person that the day is the day before I made the trials.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: But then it's like once you accomplish a thing that the world deems as flashy, then everyone is interested in your story and your brand.
7:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can kind of relate to that, uh, not at the same level, but just to make a long story short.
7:32
SPEAKER_00: So time I used to be like a very big guy, we were talking about it, then you lose the weight, and it's like, oh, what happened to that guy?
7:40
SPEAKER_00: How'd you do it?
7:40
SPEAKER_00: And I've been preaching all this time, I'm gonna lose weight, but then they see a different person who lost all this weight, and it's just like, wow, can you give me tips?
7:49
SPEAKER_01: Because it was like society saw what they view a successful person, even though the six months maybe before you lost the weight, your brain, your routine, you were doing those things, but you're the same person, yeah.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's how the world works, I guess.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: I I'm curious, you know, we we kind of joked at it earlier.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: Um the Stairmaster Queen, and you know, you cross-train, and and I watch almost daily, like it's like, okay, I got a seven-mile run, uh two-hour bike, one-hour Pilates, uh, sauna.
8:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, how did you, before I go into the details of that, how did you come up with that style of training?
8:28
SPEAKER_00: Because you know, all you hear is I'm sure you've heard, and probably even more so now since you cross that New York and OTQ'd, is like, hey, everyone does high mileage and so is so elite, this is what they do, or threshold, or I'm getting pricked here for my blood lactate, et cetera, et cetera.
8:42
SPEAKER_00: How did you come up with this style that works for you and works very well, obviously?
8:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yes.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: So it all started when I signed up for my first half marathon right after finishing my collegiate swim career.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: At that point, like Envision, it's it's March 2023.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: Your first half is gonna be in May.
9:01
SPEAKER_01: You just got off a low-impact sport.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: So your lungs are gonna be able to do long runs and hard runs, but your joints might not be able to.
9:09
SPEAKER_01: And I knew that.
9:10
SPEAKER_01: So I started running three days a week.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: And knowing that I wanted to do run, simulate run-like experiences, I figured the um economy between swimming and running wasn't as good as either biking, elliptical, or stairmaster.
9:26
SPEAKER_01: Just ended up discovering coming out of my swim career that I liked the Stare Master the most.
9:31
SPEAKER_01: Like I just found it the most fun.
9:33
SPEAKER_01: I could do emails from it, I could, I don't know, create even content from the Stare Master.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: I just felt like it was improving my ability to run up hills.
9:43
SPEAKER_01: So for injury prevention purposes, I created this as for my first half marathon training plan.
9:48
SPEAKER_01: And it worked really well.
9:49
SPEAKER_01: I think I went like a 120 or something at the Cleveland half marathon.
9:54
SPEAKER_01: And so I just never really changed it, except that I started running four days a week.
9:59
SPEAKER_01: And then on my run days, even saying, why not also just add the stairmaster?
10:03
SPEAKER_01: Because eventually, if you want to run a marathon, you're gonna want to train your body to keep going for two and a half, three hours at a time.
10:11
SPEAKER_01: So it, yeah, that's how it came.
10:13
SPEAKER_01: It just came from the self-awareness of step one.
10:15
SPEAKER_01: You can't just start running six days a week because you're gonna get injured.
10:18
SPEAKER_01: And then, like, wait, I like this structure and it works really well.
10:21
SPEAKER_01: So let's just keep doing it.
10:22
SPEAKER_01: And then, yeah, that's it's been great since then.
10:26
SPEAKER_00: Stairmaster, how do you manage that?
10:28
SPEAKER_00: You run seven miles, you hop on a stairmaster, like does your legs not get sore?
10:32
SPEAKER_00: Like, is it just time you've done it so long?
10:35
SPEAKER_00: Um you're used to it.
10:37
SPEAKER_01: It's brutal.
10:38
SPEAKER_01: No, it's still every time post-run, if I cross-train after a run, okay, amount, especially because when I run, I most of the time run in zone three, four, or five, just because I don't run that often.
10:51
SPEAKER_01: So at my zone two training, I'll just I don't need to be mechanically loading myself.
10:58
SPEAKER_01: Anytime I convert from a zone three, four run, let's say, or a progression run where I was pushing the pace, and then go to either a cycle or a stairmaster, my legs are burning.
11:08
SPEAKER_01: Like every time it doesn't really get that much better.
11:11
SPEAKER_01: But I always think to myself, like, this is mile 12 of a half, or this is mile 18 of a full.
11:18
SPEAKER_01: And that simulation, it's almost like mentally pushing through it is the strongest muscle you're training.
11:24
SPEAKER_01: Then secondarily, I'm physically training the legs, but I'm really training the mind.
11:29
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
11:30
SPEAKER_00: So you mentally go in there and go, like, hey, this is mile 15, 20, and like, hey, I gotta tough this out.
11:37
SPEAKER_00: Music or no music?
11:39
SPEAKER_01: When I run, yeah.
11:41
SPEAKER_01: If I'm running and not simultaneously studying, definitely music.
11:45
SPEAKER_01: But I would say my primary form of entertainment is like flashcards with practice questions.
11:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
11:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: That that's kind of wild, but also like, hey, you're training.
11:59
SPEAKER_01: I can't be at the gym for two, two and a half, sometimes three hours, and also then have a separate three-hour study session.
12:06
SPEAKER_01: So I just sometimes have to mash them.
12:08
SPEAKER_00: How do you stay focused, like on the stairmaster?
12:11
SPEAKER_00: You're going up and down, you're reading the ankey cards, you're reading like it just you make it work, obviously.
12:16
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I think it's honestly good because you have to use your core and like to stabilize your head.
12:23
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
12:24
SPEAKER_01: And use your glutes to make sure you're not going side to side and relax your shoulders in order to read the questions correctly.
12:30
SPEAKER_01: And then in a way, that's so nice because in exchange, you're also doing really good form.
12:34
SPEAKER_01: It's the same with like people who bob their head when they get tired and in a run.
12:38
SPEAKER_01: I used to do that too, but I kind of feel like I've been trained not to because if you bob your head, then you can't read about the person with heart disease, you know?
12:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: What are you studying lately?
12:49
SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm I'm sure it's for like class and whatnot.
12:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:52
SPEAKER_01: So like official, I'm definitely out.
12:54
SPEAKER_01: I've been out now about a year and a half from like the sit-down lecture pre-clinical.
12:59
SPEAKER_01: But now I'm studying for an exam called step three, which you take during your first year of when you're a resident physician.
13:06
SPEAKER_01: Um, I'd like to personally take step three to that big board exam like closer to July, August time.
13:12
SPEAKER_01: So that way when I'm actually a resident starting in June, there isn't too long of a period of time where I'm working like insane hours and having to come home and study.
13:20
SPEAKER_01: So while I have a bit more free time now, yeah.
13:23
SPEAKER_01: And then sometimes I like to also dabble.
13:25
SPEAKER_01: So I'm going into radiology.
13:26
SPEAKER_01: So I'll like look at scans and really spend extra time looking at like CTs and MRIs and say mammogens, just to kind of practice um identifying common pathologies.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
13:40
SPEAKER_00: All that while running, while training, training for races is mind-boggling for those listening.
13:46
SPEAKER_00: They're probably like, how does she do all this?
13:50
SPEAKER_00: Touching on that, like, how do you balance it all?
13:53
SPEAKER_00: You you've got you know your residency coming up, you you're studying, you're doing it while you're training, you're training three, four hours.
14:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, like how you're doing content like superwoman over here.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, so I would say the first way I do it all is getting really good sleep.
14:13
SPEAKER_01: Yes, and I know that people are probably sick of me saying it, but you function your best, feel your best, and are your happiest and work most efficiently when you're well rested and when you've prioritized rest.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: So I get about nine hours or more every night.
14:30
SPEAKER_01: And I find that that just allows my days to be more effective.
14:35
SPEAKER_01: Like I can suck more out of every like the sponge.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: You're squeezing everything out of the sponge rather than just squeezing it halfway because you're kind of tired.
14:43
SPEAKER_01: So that's like my number one.
14:44
SPEAKER_01: My second thing is I'm a very calendar-oriented person so that I can get everything done I need to in a day.
14:50
SPEAKER_01: So I have like my notes app for my like today to-dos and goals, and then I have my Google calendar for like my um appoint, like appointments, meetings, um, lectures, clinical schedule, um, things related to running races that I look more longitudinally.
15:06
SPEAKER_01: And that way, being so organized makes me super intentional with my time.
15:10
SPEAKER_01: Because, like, for instance, if I only booked off 90 minutes to have lunch with a friend, then we're not gonna be on our phones.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: We're not gonna be doom scrolling to each other.
15:16
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna be really engaging in each other's conversations.
15:20
SPEAKER_01: And the same goes for like if I allot 20 minutes of like relaxed TV time before bed, like I'm not also gonna be doom scrolling.
15:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm really just gonna be trying to do whatever wellness activity I plan for myself.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: And then the third is I have like my social touch points that I think just keep me going and keep me motivated.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: So I have like my running community.
15:37
SPEAKER_01: I talk with my mom and like parents every single day, and sisters I'm very close with.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: I have a great community here at NYU.
15:43
SPEAKER_01: I love my medical school friends.
15:44
SPEAKER_01: So those people keep me inspired, keep me going, give me good advice for days where it's like hard.
15:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, I would say that's my formula.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: No, it sounds amazing, sounds well structured, and and you're hitting on you know, the running, the work, school, and the personal side.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: What's a typical day for you?
16:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, we joked about it earlier.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: I think when I first saw your stuff, it was like 4 30 in the morning, Central Park, which had me kind of nervous.
16:10
unknown: Yeah.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, it always depends.
16:13
SPEAKER_01: The time my alarm is in the morning depends on when I have to be in at the hospital.
16:17
SPEAKER_01: And so if I have to be in the hospital at 7, then yeah, by 4:30, I have to be in the park running.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: Just because if I do a run and a lift or run in a stairmaster, that's the only way I can get it all done before 7 a.m.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: But right now, um, my life is like I'll wake up sometime between 5 and 6 a.m.
16:34
SPEAKER_01: and I will go to the gym and either do like my cross training and a Pilates or strength or my run, a cross train and a strength session.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: And during the cardio portion is when I'll like study, do emails, make content, because that's just the way I'm most efficient.
16:49
SPEAKER_01: And that way, like before 9 a.m., it feels like I've gotten like 15 things done off my to-do list already.
16:55
SPEAKER_01: And then I'll either go into the hospital to see my patients or do whatever I'm, whatever service I'm on clinically, or um prepare and execute my residency interviews, which lately in my life has been taking up a lot more time.
17:09
SPEAKER_01: Um recently finished with that.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: But and then around four or five or six, whenever I get dismissed or my day's done, my research tasks are over, I've read all the scans I need to read, whatever it might be that given day or week, I'll come home, I'll usually chat with my mom or dad or both, recap the day.
17:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, try to do something with a friend in the evening, whether it be like coffee, walk, bring your own dinner, whatever.
17:33
SPEAKER_01: No blue light before bed, and try to be, or I'll eat dinner and then I allow a little window to just unwind without screens, get ready for bed, and then yeah, go to sleep, get my nine hours, do it again.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: You touched on it there a little bit, like the whole blue light, no phones.
17:49
SPEAKER_00: Like, what what do you do to make sure you do get those nine hours of sleep?
17:53
SPEAKER_00: That that's a lot, most would say, and helps, of course.
17:57
SPEAKER_01: Well, always go to bed within the same half hour window every single night because then your body just knows, like, okay, it's my time, and your circadian rhythm is trained so that you'll conk out right basically when you go to bed.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, secondly, yeah, any blue light exposure the half hour before you go to bed is gonna mess with your melatonin production.
18:15
SPEAKER_01: So I'll wear like blue light glasses if I have to be on my computer doing something, as well as night shift on my phone.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: But ideally, I'm just off screens.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: And then um another thing I think is you just have to identify what is getting in the way of me saying yes to like going to bed earlier.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: If you're someone who just doesn't set good boundaries with like your friends or with work, then I think you just have to reflect like what's what's gonna take priority.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: Am I in a season of life where sleep is just gonna have to be less?
18:42
SPEAKER_01: Or can I say no and go to bed at like nine instead of 10:30 if I have to wake up at four?
18:47
SPEAKER_01: Or I can go to bed at one instead of 3 a.m.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: and have a little bit more self-control with my doom scrolling.
18:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's different for everyone.
18:55
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: And then lastly, like sometimes I get DMs about this.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: People will say, How do you get nine to ten hours?
19:03
SPEAKER_01: I can never, I have trouble falling asleep.
19:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, or what do you take to help, like what supplements do you take to help you sleep?
19:10
unknown: Yeah.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: My response to that is if you live a very active life for the most part, unless you have an actual um just like sleep disorder.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: Insomnia, if you work out two and a half hours a day, you're tired by the time bedtime rolls around.
19:25
SPEAKER_01: So that's I don't know, no supplements here.
19:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm on the same boat.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, I work very early, like I'm in by seven, and and it's okay somewhat hard labor.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: So trust me, when eight o'clock comes around, I am dead tired.
19:40
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
19:41
SPEAKER_01: You must be extra ZQL, you know.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: You're training running, I think you said three times a week in zone three, zone four.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: That's another thing.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: Like, people love zone two now.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: So talk to me about that.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: Like, um, zone two is all the rave now, and you're running three, four, which is obviously the demands for those listening for the marathon.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: Like, are you getting like your endurance from the stairmaster and the treadmill and Pilates and stuff?
20:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: And I also just think, again, my aerobic base is so, so, so strong that zone two isn't really what's going to be most important for me.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: Plus, I just personally think that if I, every cycle and stairmaster can spend more than 50% of it above zone two, and every run in zone three, four, and five, then ultimately my training is always the highest quality possible, you know?
20:29
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm always really pushing myself.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: So that's sort of the reason behind it.
20:35
SPEAKER_01: I think it's very different though.
20:36
SPEAKER_01: Like this advice I'm giving is really of basically always going harder than zone two is not accessible for individuals who haven't been doing an endurance sport for 20 years of their like literally 20 years I've been in endurance sports.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: So I kind of already have that base.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: I think if you're just starting that, making sure you hit zone two every day and then touching zone three, four, and five a few times a week makes more sense.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: But I think if you're if you're trying to refine your times and drop every little percent, you know, the faster you get, the harder it is to drop.
21:04
SPEAKER_01: So then why not just do more the zone three and four work if that works for your body?
21:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: Especially the sleep again is gonna help too with the recovery.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: Do you use any like recovery tools and stuff?
21:16
SPEAKER_00: Or is it just, hey, look, good sleep and I'm good and eat good?
21:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, fueling for sure.
21:21
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm pretty particular about my like protein and carb in that anabolic window after my lifts and runs, really making sure I'm hitting that.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: So basics, I am I am a huge proponent of the basics and the two basics you already hit, which are nutrition and sleep.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: I do do the extra stuff when I have time.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: So, like to me, um I see someone for dry needling when I have an injury.
21:44
SPEAKER_01: I do think that that like has worked.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: I have done like shockwave therapy.
21:49
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I do contrast sauna when I can.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: But again, I'm so busy that like I these are more one offs.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: Like I'll do these maybe once a week, but not all the time.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: A big question I get is like, what's your foam roll and stretching routine or mobility?
22:04
SPEAKER_01: And I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna be honest.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: I do that maybe once a week.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: And then it's like for 10 minutes while I'm watching like a show that I need to catch up on or that my family's saying I should watch.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: It's very I don't have like a super strong stretching routine.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: No stretch.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: What about pre-run?
22:22
SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: You just go out and go.
22:24
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's different because most of the time I will have even either done a cycle or a walk to the gym by that point.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: So I've already like passively warmed up.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
22:33
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: No, it's funny because I hear this a lot.
22:37
SPEAKER_01: Like, um, it's like, oh yeah, my stretch routine is uh to be fair, to date, there is no randomized control trial that says stretching prevents injury or enhances athletic performance.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: It's only in individuals who like did that in conjunction with strength training.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: But that was like the confounding was that strength training was present.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: If they took strength training out and only did stretching versus placebo like nothing, it there was no change in performance or recovery, so or injury prevention.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: So until the data proves me wrong, I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, no, I could be better about stretching, but it just feels like the motivation is low sometimes when you're short for time.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, obviously, short for time, you gotta get to run.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: That's that's an extra privilege mile or something you can get in for sure.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: Or like, yeah, if I wanted to hit like back and buys that day, I think I'd just rather do my bicep curls than a quad stretch.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: But it's just like personal, that's just what I prefer.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: New York City.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: How did you just smile through the whole race?
23:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh, because all your Instagram is very small.
23:48
SPEAKER_00: You smiled through the race, it had to hurt.
23:51
SPEAKER_00: You ran two thirties and qualified.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: It's a hilly race.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: I run New York, and you just out here smiling.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: Okay, wait, so you you run New York Marathon.
24:01
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
24:01
SPEAKER_01: That's what you're saying.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: Okay, but so you know that it feels like the whole city is out that it feels like it's a gravity party.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: It feels like they said November 2nd, 2026, or 2025.
24:13
SPEAKER_01: Everyone come bring your best energy, music, vibes, posters, noisemakers, children, you know, grandma.
24:20
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, that is why I could could not stop smiling.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: It felt like the support was the most unmatched in ever.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: Like, and I thought nothing about Boston Marathon.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: New York might have been even more, like the live bands, and just it was an incredible feeling.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: And for the first 18 miles, also I was running with two other New York um girls that I like kind of knew from other races.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: And we were chatting a little bit and kind of pushing each other.
24:48
SPEAKER_01: So I just feel that having like a girl group helped.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: And then lastly, I will say that it just so happened I feel like that the photographers happened to be around areas where like either friends or family had come to support me.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: So those more like ones that are coming up a lot on my social media of me, like with an arm pump or like smiling so big, happened to be right where my mom, dad, sister, and brother-in-law were cheering too.
25:14
SPEAKER_01: And so like that just warms the heart.
25:16
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
25:18
SPEAKER_00: No, that's so cool.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, agreed.
25:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh, New York vibes were like, I mean, I had my rough moments, but to your point, there's some points where the crowd picked me up.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but from what I saw, you were just smiling everywhere.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: I think I saw a post that just like, hey, this girl's smiling through the whole marathon.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: Like, you did you not hurt at all uh through the race?
25:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh no, like uh Queensboro Bridge, that's what killed me in with a wash stop, what like imploded and having no one cheering, that was really hard.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: So that was a difficult time for me where I had to just kind of work with some positive self-talk.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: And then I would say that slow climb from I think it's like 22 to 23 into Central Park, but before you get to the crowds of Central Park, you're just on, I think it's fifth Ave.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: That was also mentally really tough because I was, to be honest with myself, too far from like the pro pros, you know, like the back of the pros would have been like if I had gone 231 and I wasn't quite there.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, so I was running alone at that time, which was hard.
26:19
SPEAKER_01: But I would just like repeat certain mantras in my head, and I think that helps, but everyone has their own way.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: Well, what were you uh telling yourself as you're like to the end of the marathon and you're looking at, well, your watch is gone at this point.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but like you kind of have an idea, I'm assuming, of what time you're gonna hit and where you're close to.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, are you like, oh my god, I'm gonna Olympic qualify?
26:43
SPEAKER_01: Like, or you're just like literally didn't know.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: I did not know if I was in pace or not, because I knew that the first four fifth 14 miles were on pace-ish for making trials, but I had no idea, literally no clue.
26:57
SPEAKER_01: So I was running out of fear of gosh, if you slowed down in hypothetically miles 16 through 18, well then pick better pick it up now.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: So just in case you're on track to make trials.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: But even if I wasn't, I just kept thinking, like, you have worked so hard right here for so many mornings the last four or five months, and your whole life you've been training like an absolute beast.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: You've done harder things than this.
27:25
SPEAKER_01: Or I would say to myself, like, do you remember when you did that three-hour steer master session and no one in Planet Fitness knew you were doing that?
27:31
SPEAKER_01: And you were exhausted going into that third hour, but you did it anyway.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: This is easier, and you have people cheering for you, you know?
27:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: So I almost felt like thinking to myself, this is your reward because you've done harder things, so you can definitely do this.
27:47
SPEAKER_01: Um, and yeah, I think again, just the more assured you are in your preparation, the the better the race feels, even when it gets hard.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: You crossed the finish line.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: Did you know the time then?
28:02
SPEAKER_01: Again, no, because for some reason, and this is like I need to talk to them about this.
28:08
SPEAKER_01: They chose to make the time when I crossed the finish line affiliate with when the men's pro field started.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: So when I crossed the line, it says this: it says 205, like 14 or whatever.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: And I thought, 205, that's meaningless to me.
28:27
SPEAKER_01: I know I didn't run a 205 marathon.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: I know I didn't run a 305 marathon.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: So I was so confused.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: So when I crossed the finish line, I said to one of my friends as chief of staff for the NYRR and I said to him, I said, Do you know what my time was?
28:42
SPEAKER_01: Because 205 teens doesn't make sense to me.
28:45
SPEAKER_01: And he goes, unofficially 235-17.
28:49
SPEAKER_01: And I said, Really?
28:51
SPEAKER_01: And he was like, Yeah, yeah, like unofficially, but and I thought, it doesn't matter whether it's unofficial, that's low enough below the standard where I definitely made it.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: And so that's when I put it together that, you know, they they decided to start the time when Kipchogi started, not when little old Felicia started, which I get.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
29:10
SPEAKER_00: What did it feel like once you heard the time?
29:12
SPEAKER_00: What did your family tell you?
29:14
SPEAKER_00: What went through your mind?
29:16
SPEAKER_01: I remember being ushered by the New York Roadrunners people who are really great support volunteers, just being like, you know, do you need anything?
29:24
SPEAKER_01: Do you need any Gatorade?
29:26
SPEAKER_01: Also, major congratulations.
29:27
SPEAKER_01: This is amazing.
29:28
SPEAKER_01: And then my first stop was literally a local news station, being like, can we just you were the first news?
29:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and you, you, this is all happening right now, and we'd love to get a clip of you.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, can we get a recording?
29:41
SPEAKER_01: And so I was like, sure.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: So I got interviewed, and then I got taken away to the little um center for like the recovery refuel zone for the pro field where you're like, you could get a massage if you wanted.
29:52
SPEAKER_01: You can get like honeydew melon to get your carbs back in, you can use the porta potty, whatever.
29:56
SPEAKER_01: And so I said good job to a few um of the the pro women that I had made friends with on the bus there who had finished before me, but which was just again so cool to even be among them.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: I really felt like I was not that I wasn't supposed to be there, but but kind of like I'm among greatness, and so I should take solid.
30:16
SPEAKER_01: Then I called, I got the the bag finally got to me and I called my family because I didn't run with my phone, of course.
30:23
SPEAKER_01: And I said, let's meet up at the blah, blah, blah, and blah intersection.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: And then that first hug with them when I made trials was like probably the most emotional I've been in a long time because it just felt like everything was coming together.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: And I think it's like it's different celebrating with a friend or a volunteer or the running community versus like the people who literally raised you and saw you work.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, kind of work for this since like five years old.
30:46
SPEAKER_01: I wanted to, I kind of you would talk about like Olympic dreams.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it was really special.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: That's so cool.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just seeing your family there, having the support and like getting hugged them and stuff.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, I'm sure you go back to like all the swimming and schools and bus trips.
31:04
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:04
SPEAKER_01: Like these are the people who, yeah, 4 30 a.m.
31:08
SPEAKER_01: to be in the pool at five, they were there driving me, they were there toasting my bagel so that I would get an extra two minutes of sleep.
31:14
SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm talking everything for me.
31:16
SPEAKER_01: So I just owe it like so much to my family.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: That's so cool.
31:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, talk to me about uh how much you share on Instagram.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: What I mean is I'll be very specific.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, and we talked about this, it's kind of why I started this podcast.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: You had all these like high-level runners and stuff, and you you don't know much about them, except for the I think people share more now.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: And what I love about your stuff uh is that all your stuff's online.
31:44
SPEAKER_00: Hey, here's how I train today, here's how I train tomorrow, here's how I train on the PM, here's what I'm doing for school, here's this like show I was on.
31:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, like you share everything.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, what led you to do that?
31:56
SPEAKER_00: What inspired you, and why do you?
31:59
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: So I January 1st of 2025, I started an account called Well Felicia Fit.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: And the reason why is because my main account, Felicia Pasadine, was getting a lot of questions about pre-the-the-the three main things were pre-med advice, like because I think people saw that I got into NYU, which has a small acceptance rate, and everyone wanted to know how to do that.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: Not everyone, I'm exaggerating.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: I would just talk maybe like five or six DMs per week, but similar question patterns.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: Secondly, was um, yeah, about my running and road races and just how do I self-coach.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: And then the third would be people would want to know about like my swimming kind of transition, like transition to running, but also just my swimming history and how did you get recruited for Harvard, things like that.
32:45
SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, the how do you balance it all kind of falls in all of those categories.
32:49
SPEAKER_01: And I thought, okay, instead of repeating myself over and over and over again, what if I just answer commonly asked questions on a fitness, lifestyle, wellness account, and then keep my Felicia Pastine more professional, related to like medicine, my family share those things.
33:05
SPEAKER_01: And while Felicia Fit really then just grew slowly, I would say, um, and then really took off when I be got more on the New York road road running kind of scene.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: But um yeah, I think I just started deciding to share more because people were just asking so much more in my direct messages and like really wanting to know more about my life.
33:29
SPEAKER_01: I have very specific boundaries around things I won't answer.
33:32
SPEAKER_01: And I think like because I'm a good boundary setter, um, it's been sustainable for me where I don't feel overly intrusive.
33:39
SPEAKER_01: But I think the flip side of that is I'm so transparent about some things that some people think like that this is my whole life, and they actually think fitness is my whole life and say, like, well, you must not interact with your family, or you must not um, you know, like have follow a certain religion or ever think about politics, or and I'm thinking, no, no, no, it's that it's called a well Felicia Fit account.
34:02
SPEAKER_01: It's a fitness and wellness and lifestyle account.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: It's not about those other things about fashion trends or what lip gloss I wear sometimes.
34:10
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's not what it's about.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: So it's like I do and I do other things.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, I try to be as transparent as I can about what the people want to hear, basically.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: Sounds like you like, and you mentioned that you have like a good boundary between both that you find that helps you, like, hey, look, I can just separate like my good fun personal stuff.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: Yes, for sure.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: Because the minute people start requesting like advice as if I'm a nutritionist, I know I'm not qualified to tell you to take a picture of my plate and say this is what you should eat for lunch, this is what you should eat for dinner, just feels like that's not in my purview, you know, or to like people sometimes want to know like my certain lab levels of my recent doctor appointments, like hormones or something.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
34:53
SPEAKER_01: Like hip-hop exists for a reason.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna share my medical information, you know, like or just give you my MRN so you can access my my chart, like not that.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: And then another two is about like what if people want to know like how I navigate dating relationships, that's one where it's like that's for me to think about or not think about if I don't want to do that.
35:14
SPEAKER_01: So I don't need to share that on my channel.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: But it's like if you have a question about how to get better sleep, then I'm happy to make a video.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: Why do you think uh no pressure on this, but like why do you think elites don't share as much as you?
35:30
SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
35:32
SPEAKER_01: I think it has to do with they they understand there to be a lot more pressure on their given races, training, time paces, miles per week.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: Let's think of it this way: everyone wants to know what Helen O'Beary's Sunday test 5K was that her coach made her do, or you know, what Fiona O'Keefe's next race is gonna be, because everyone's in the running world, everyone's eyes are on those women.
36:05
SPEAKER_01: If I share that I went like did a low heart rate run and ran 6, 20 mile pace and that was slower than I wanted, but but I'm getting back from an injury, no one really cares that much because the eyes aren't on.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: I'm not, I'm not this super established runner with a ton of expectations.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: Similarly, I talk openly about the United Half because I've done less than 10 half marathons in my whole life.
36:31
SPEAKER_01: There isn't as many, um, like as much pressure around it.
36:35
SPEAKER_01: So I think that could be what it has to do with.
36:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't, I can't say for sure though.
36:41
SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: What what uh so far since you've been sharing um, you know, your journey and what resonates with you most?
36:48
SPEAKER_00: Like what has uh been eye-opening of like commentary, comments, that kind of stuff?
36:53
SPEAKER_01: I think for me it's how motivated the fitness and running community is, like in of in of themselves.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: Like, for example, they'll say, I saw that you um strength train on the same days that you run, and I always was too tired, but now like I've been doing that and I'm stronger and also got rid of that hamstring tendon pain I was having.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: And I'm thinking, wow, to think they just came across a few videos and took it upon themselves to do that.
37:21
SPEAKER_01: Or some people will say, I never liked going to the gym and I don't like running, but I stare master now because of you.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: Again, I'm just thoroughly impressed by how one or two, like kind of flashy or cool looking, like relatable, maybe, I don't know what you would describe my videos as or what they perceive it as, to motivate them.
37:38
SPEAKER_01: It's just like it's amazing.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: And then secondly, how much people are jumped to willing to give advice or connections if they see that I'm struggling with something.
37:47
SPEAKER_01: Like, for example, people would say, Oh, did you know that dry needling helps for Achilles?
37:51
SPEAKER_01: And so you know, you best believe I was going to my you know, acupuncture and saying, I want dry needling.
37:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, or people saying, I know a PT in midtown, like, do you want to be connected with them?
38:01
SPEAKER_01: It's just really, really kind.
38:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, really overwhelmed by how great the community is.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: No, that's really cool.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: Um Boston, right?
38:10
SPEAKER_00: So we're we're doing Boston.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: What's your thoughts around Boston?
38:14
SPEAKER_00: I know you're recovering now, but what's go, what's your mindset going into it now?
38:18
SPEAKER_00: You have Profield, you're gonna see some pros there.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: I saw the announcement of all the pros and saw your name.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh, snap.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: So my mentality going into it is to just basically continue pushing myself by doing as much like workout volume that I can handle without the mechanical load.
38:42
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: So I want to just keep leveling up what I did for New York, which was just unlocking this potential of it being a hack that I can run only eight miles one day and only put that load on my tendons, but then work out for like two hours and simulate the pain of a marathon almost every single day of the week so that the marathon is feels more casual, basically.
39:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:06
SPEAKER_01: Um, my big focuses are I could probably get in a little bit more like specific speed and pace work, but just right now with the tendon, I can't push the pace too much.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: It's healthy.
39:17
SPEAKER_01: I want to hit more like, okay, this is my half marathon pace.
39:20
SPEAKER_01: Let's hit that to kind of gear up for this marathon or whatever.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: And then um, secondly, I just want to be very conservative about the minute I feel like a twinge of something, just not necessarily shutting it down, but continuing to cross-train and just back off.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
39:37
SPEAKER_01: Because again, just being healthy, like I believe in myself strongly.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: I just think that the name of the game is staying healthy and running.
39:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and like you mentioned, you want to do this for a long time, and that's the goal.
39:49
SPEAKER_00: Let's say you're, you know, you're healed, you're touching on a little bit, like what does a day look like?
39:53
SPEAKER_00: Let's say once the Achilles is good, you know, you're cross-training, how many uh you're running, you said eight miles a day, what, three, four times a week.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh, you're saying like what would a healthy training block look like?
40:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: For this new for for Boston coming out.
40:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would say it's like it's kind of similar to what I'm doing right now, probably just with more mileage and a little bit more intensity on the runs, but it would basically be um four runs a week, one progression, one hill, one steady state with striders, and one long run.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: And then I would say the long run, I don't usually go over like 21 miles, but I would just go up maybe one or two miles per week.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: And then the other runs somewhere between seven and eleven miles.
40:36
SPEAKER_01: I would do just on a given like casual weekday.
40:38
SPEAKER_01: Then on the days that aren't a long run, I'll probably add 20 to 40 minutes of cross training with a strength training session after.
40:45
SPEAKER_01: And then on my non-one days, I'll do a combination of stairmaster and cycling for anywhere between two to two and a half hours.
40:52
SPEAKER_01: And then I'll strength train six days of the week.
40:56
SPEAKER_01: And then four every single day.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: Core every single day.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: I've seen some of those core workouts, they're pretty uh serious.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's only a three-minute weighted plank.
41:07
SPEAKER_01: Like I even if it's only three minutes of my day, um, I will I do core every day.
41:13
SPEAKER_00: And is that just something you're used to?
41:15
SPEAKER_00: Or are you just obviously it helps what we're running, keeping your form and all that stuff.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I just think it helps.
41:20
SPEAKER_01: And I like it.
41:21
SPEAKER_01: Like I like lifting core, I like weighted core, I love planking while also maybe like answering an email or something.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: It's just like convenient.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's a a great posterior chain stabilizing item to like to be strong and not have back pain.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: Were you uh is it too early or were you looking a place or potentially do time-wise?
41:46
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's I need to just like take a better, I I need to like think about sit down and think about all of this more and take a better look.
41:53
SPEAKER_01: I've just been really like when I say doing one day at a time, I mean literally just like last year I think I was top 100.
42:03
SPEAKER_01: I remember my goal was top 100 female, and I got top 100.
42:06
SPEAKER_01: So maybe this year top 40 or 30.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: But I don't know, again, like these are I do know that if the conditions are are good that day, like decent for running, not miserably hot, not like hailing or something crazy, and I'm not and I get rid of this peronial tendon pain here shortly.
42:29
SPEAKER_01: I would like to go faster than my New York time, like just to think about that.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: The reason why I I hesitate to give a place is because like that's out of my control.
42:38
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like sometimes I can only really set goals that are in my control.
42:42
SPEAKER_00: No, that makes sense, and obviously you got to take a day-to-day right now with injury and whatnot.
42:47
SPEAKER_00: So um anything scary about the race, Boston, you know, with the hills?
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, New York is kind of hilly, so no, I think that Heartbreak Hill is a very well-timed place for someone who trains the way I do, which is like initiate pain and then specifically do something hard when you're in that moment.
43:05
SPEAKER_01: Um so I'm I'm very excited for Boston.
43:09
SPEAKER_01: I would say the only thing that scares me would be getting injured.
43:14
SPEAKER_01: Like I don't, whether it be leading up to the race or I mean, I'm sure you've heard of these stories where like people say they do a marathon and for they can't really put, even if they've done marathons before, it just like messes them up.
43:24
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to be limping away from my marathon.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: I want to be tired but like walking away.