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- Lucas: So, we've covered a lot of Scottish history — battles, kings, clearances, the Union. But there's one object that ties so much of it together, and it's been at the centre of controversy for over seven hundred years. Luna: You're talking about the Stone of Destiny. Lucas: Exactly. The Stone of Destiny — or the Stone of Scone, as it's sometimes called. For centuries, it was the seat upon which Scottish kings were crowned. Then, in 1296, Edward I of England took it as spoils of war and had it installed under the Coronation Chair at Westminster Abbey. And there it sat, for almost exactly seven hundred years. Lucas: But the story doesn't end there. In 1950, four Scottish students stole it back from Westminster Abbey. They cracked it in the process, but they got it to Scotland. And then, in 1996, the British government officially returned it to Scotland — though with a condition: it goes back to Westminster for future coronations. Luna: So it's like a symbol of Scottish sovereignty that's still sort of hostage. Lucas: Exactly. And that tension is at the heart of its story. But let's go back to the beginning — or at least, the beginning of the myth. The Stone's legendary origins claim it's the very pillow that Jacob used in the Book of Genesis. From there, it supposedly travelled to Egypt, then to Spain, and eventually to Ireland, where it became the Lia Fáil, the stone upon which Irish kings were crowned. Then it crossed the sea to Scotland, landing at the royal centre of Scone. Lucas: Now, that's all medieval legend designed to give the Stone — and by extension, the Scottish monarchy — a biblical pedigree. Historians are pretty sure it's actually a local sandstone, probably quarried near Scone. Some even think it was originally a Pictish symbol stone, carved with a cross and used in inauguration ceremonies long before the Scots arrived from Ireland. Luna: So it's essentially a Pictish throne stone that got a mythic makeover. Lucas: Right. And that makeover was important. Because when Edward I took the Stone in 1296, he wasn't just stealing a rock. He was taking the very seat of Scottish kingship. By placing it under his own coronation chair, he was making a symbolic statement: the Scottish monarchy was subordinate to the English one. And it worked — for centuries, English and later British monarchs were crowned sitting over the Stone. Lucas: But there's a persistent rumour that Edward didn't get the real Stone. The story goes that the monks at Scone, hearing of Edward's advance, hid the genuine Stone and substituted a fake — maybe a piece of local sandstone, maybe an old millstone. Edward took the decoy, and the real Stone remained hidden in Scotland. Luna: Is there any evidence for that? Lucas: There's a lot of circumstantial evidence, but no smoking gun. In 1814, a stone was found in the ruins of Iona Abbey, and some claimed it was the real Stone of Destiny. It was later used as a doorstep. But in 1996, when the government returned the Westminster Stone to Scotland, it was placed in Edinburgh Castle alongside the Crown Jewels. And a geological survey in 1998 confirmed that the Westminster Stone is a type of sandstone that comes from near Scone — so it's at least local. But that doesn't prove it's the original. Lucas: There's also the fact that some Scottish kings — like Robert the Bruce — were crowned without the Stone. Bruce's coronation at Scone in 1306 used a different stone, maybe the so-called 'Stone of Moot' or a simple block. So if the Stone was so important, why wasn't it used? Unless it was missing. Luna: That's a pretty good hint that the real one might have been hidden. Lucas: Exactly. And then there's the 1950 theft. Four students — Ian Hamilton, Gavin Vernon, Kay Matheson, and Alan Stuart — decided to reclaim the Stone for Scotland. On Christmas Eve 1950, they broke into Westminster Abbey, pulled the Stone from under the Coronation Chair, and dragged it out — but in the process, they dropped it and it cracked in two. Lucas: They hid the pieces, repaired them with a dowel, and eventually left the Stone at Arbroath Abbey — the very place where the Declaration of Arbroath was signed. It was a deliberate act of historical symbolism. The police recovered it four months later, but the damage had been done. The Stone became a symbol of Scottish nationalism. Luna: It's incredible that students could pull that off. Lucas: And they weren't even punished. They were hailed as heroes by many Scots. Ian Hamilton later became a prominent lawyer and even served as a Conservative MP. But his views on the Stone were complex — he thought it should stay in Scotland, not be used for British coronations. Lucas: Fast forward to 1996. With devolution on the horizon, the Conservative government decided to return the Stone to Scotland. On St. Andrew's Day, it was formally handed over at Edinburgh Castle. But the deal was that it would be loaned to Westminster for future coronations. So when Charles III was crowned in 2023, the Stone made the journey south again. Luna: So it's still a political football. Lucas: Very much so. And there's a campaign to keep it in Scotland permanently. But the Stone itself is just a block of sandstone — it's what it represents that matters. It's a tangible link to the medieval kingdom of the Scots, and a reminder of a seven-hundred-year-old conquest that never really ended. Lucas: You know, talking about symbols of national identity and how they're fought over — it reminds me of why we do this show the way we do. Luna: How do you mean? Lucas: We deliberately keep the show ad-free. No commercial breaks, no sponsors. It's just the story, told because we think it's worth telling. And the only reason we can do that is because listeners who appreciate that approach sometimes choose to support us. Luna: Yeah, it's a small way of keeping the history independent. Lucas: Exactly. So if you'd like to help keep these conversations going without ads, you can find us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure — just a way for those who value an ad-free space to chip in. Luna: And speaking of symbols, let's get back to the Stone. There's another layer to this story — the question of authenticity. Lucas: Right. Because even if the Westminster Stone is the one Edward took, some historians argue it's not the original coronation stone of the Scots. The earliest references to a 'stone' at Scone date to the 13th century, but they describe it as a large block on which kings stood, not sat. The idea of a portable stone that's carried from place to place might be a later invention. Lucas: And there's another candidate: the Stone of Inverurie, a carved Pictish symbol stone that some claim was used for inaugurations. But it's not portable. So the real answer might be that the Stone of Destiny as we know it is a composite of myth and politics — a symbol that has been reinvented over and over. Luna: So in a way, the controversy is part of its meaning. Lucas: Exactly. Whether it's Jacob's pillow, a Pictish throne, a medieval fake, or a piece of sandstone quarried near Scone — the Stone of Destiny is what people believe it to be. And that belief has shaped Scottish identity for centuries. Lucas: Next time you're in Edinburgh Castle, you can see it for yourself — a simple block of stone, sitting in the Crown Room, waiting for the next coronation. And you can decide for yourself whether it's the real thing. Luna: Or maybe the real one is still out there, hidden in some Highland glen. Lucas: Maybe. And that mystery is part of what makes it so compelling.