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- 0:25Speaker 2: the Bloomberg terminals about the Boston Celtics. A consortium including
- 0:29Speaker 2: STG Partners co founder Bill Chisholm, who was actually originally
- 0:33Speaker 2: an investment banker Pain Weber my old shop, reached a
- 0:36Speaker 2: deal to buy the Boston Celtics for six point one
- 0:40Speaker 2: billion dollars.
- 0:41Speaker 3: Just extraordinary. Anyone you want to.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Talk about the valuation of sports franchises, there's one place
- 0:47Speaker 2: you have to go, and that's Sportco. These folks do
- 0:49Speaker 2: some outstanding work there. Eben Novi Williams and his partner
- 0:53Speaker 2: Scott Sashnik.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Scott Soshnik Joints is here. He is editor chief of Sportico.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Hey, Scott, this is I'm a Nick's but I recognize value,
- 1:02Speaker 2: and boy, this Boston Celtis.
- 1:04Speaker 3: They're getting a rich valuation, aren't they.
- 1:06Speaker 4: Yeah, they certainly are. It's the most ever paid for
- 1:08Speaker 4: professional sports franchise, topping Josh Harris's six billion dollar purchase
- 1:12Speaker 4: of the Commanders. And we all know the difference between
- 1:15Speaker 4: the NFL and everybody else, so for this to happen
- 1:17Speaker 4: in the NBA is quite extraordinary. And it's actually going
- 1:19Speaker 4: to be a two tranch deal. So this first tranche,
- 1:22Speaker 4: we understand, is at a six point one billion dollar
- 1:24Speaker 4: valuation three years from now. The second tranch, I think
- 1:27Speaker 4: the rest of the forty nine percent of the franchise
- 1:29Speaker 4: that wasn't sold now is going to be a seven
- 1:31Speaker 4: billion dollar valuation, so perhaps accounting for inflation, but at
- 1:35Speaker 4: a blended six' six you can bet That Adam silver
- 1:38Speaker 4: and the NBA's other owners are very happy with this.
- 1:40Speaker 4: Transaction all, Right.
- 1:41Speaker 5: So done this one down for? Me? RIGHT i would
- 1:43Speaker 5: assume you're, like, yeah, yeah, no please do all? Right
- 1:46Speaker 5: you got football and you got, soccer which they call
- 1:48Speaker 5: football In. Europe but, LIKE i didn't know that basketball
- 1:51Speaker 5: was this valuable versus those other two.
- 1:53Speaker 4: Sports, YEAH i, mean look at the media. Deal first of,
- 1:56Speaker 4: all they just re up, with you, know With turner AND,
- 1:59Speaker 4: espn a almost three x deal from the last. Time
- 2:02Speaker 4: so The meteorites are incredibly. Valuable what you normally look
- 2:05Speaker 4: at with these transactions are what's the media and what's
- 2:09Speaker 4: the real. Estate what really is surprising about The celtics
- 2:13Speaker 4: is all the ownership has is the, team albeit a tremendous.
- 2:17Speaker 4: BRAND i, mean The celtics brand in sports is, premium,
- 2:20Speaker 4: platinum top, TIER i get. It but they do not
- 2:23Speaker 4: own the. Building they are tenants in the. Building it's
- 2:26Speaker 4: owned by The jacobs and which owned the family that
- 2:29Speaker 4: owns The Boston. Ruins so you're really just getting the.
- 2:31Speaker 4: Team it's gonna be really interesting to. See, now how
- 2:33Speaker 4: do you squeeze further value out of a roster, that,
- 2:37Speaker 4: yes is a championship, team but is projected to lose
- 2:39Speaker 4: about seventy million dollars this. Year so it's a high
- 2:42Speaker 4: price to. Pay it remains to be seen how they
- 2:46Speaker 4: can squeeze some more value out of.
- 2:47Speaker 2: It, hey what do we know about This Bill. Chisholm
- 2:52Speaker 2: what do we know about this new buyer?
- 2:53Speaker 4: Here, yeah we don't know much About. CHISHOLM i, mean
- 2:56Speaker 4: he grew up in the, area grew up A celtics,
- 2:58Speaker 4: fan watched them put the band. Up Larry bird was
- 3:01Speaker 4: his favorite, player went To. Dartmouth these are the things
- 3:03Speaker 4: The grosspecks sort of pointed out in their letter that
- 3:06Speaker 4: we saw that he sent out to the ownership group
- 3:08Speaker 4: announcing the. Transaction but from a sports, perspective we don't
- 3:11Speaker 4: have anything. Now he was one of four parties. Interested
- 3:14Speaker 4: another one of the, parties of, course Was Steve, paluka
- 3:16Speaker 4: who's a limited partner in the group NOW. PAGs you,
- 3:20Speaker 4: know early on he had made it clear he thought
- 3:22Speaker 4: what a fair valuation was AND i don't think over
- 3:25Speaker 4: six billion dollars was. It so he did bid on the,
- 3:28Speaker 4: franchise but he didn't approach this. Number thus he's he's
- 3:32Speaker 4: happy to send it out at this.
- 3:33Speaker 5: Point so no bidding, war we're going to resume it
- 3:35Speaker 5: or anything like.
- 3:36Speaker 4: That once you got to. Six there was an early
- 3:39Speaker 4: feeling during the transaction that THE nba really wanted this
- 3:44Speaker 4: to begin with six. Twofold you always want the price
- 3:47Speaker 4: to be going up your, franchise keep the owners. Happy
- 3:49Speaker 4: but THE nba is also about to embark on an expansion,
- 3:52Speaker 4: process whether it Be seattle And Las vegas and or.
- 3:55Speaker 4: More this sets a very high number for those two
- 3:59Speaker 4: new market so everybody happy across the. Board if you're
- 4:02Speaker 4: interested IN nba valuations And.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Scott we know that for a lot of these sports,
- 4:07Speaker 2: teams the real value are much of the value is
- 4:09Speaker 2: in their media. Rights and if you're a national sport
- 4:12Speaker 2: like THE, nfl you're in a, great great.
- 4:14Speaker 3: Shape if you're a regional.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Sport like, baseball like, hockey those regional sports networks and
- 4:21Speaker 2: the challenges they're facing because of cord.
- 4:23Speaker 3: Cutting that's an.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Issue how do you factor that in for some of
- 4:27Speaker 2: these regional, sports you, know the kind of the weakness
- 4:30Speaker 2: in the regional sports, business how do you factor that into?
- 4:32Speaker 6: Evaluation certainly if you rank them top to, BOTTOM, NFL,
- 4:36Speaker 6: nba and then hockey and, baseball hockey and, baseball certainly
- 4:40Speaker 6: they really need that local, money that LOCAL tv money
- 4:43Speaker 6: which has been disappearing on the regionable sports, networks which
- 4:46Speaker 6: we refer to over here as melting.
- 4:47Speaker 4: Glaciers so the national number is so high for THE,
- 4:51Speaker 4: nfl and that's just, pooled so there is no local you,
- 4:54Speaker 4: know you don't air it that. Way THE nba does
- 4:57Speaker 4: rely some on local media, money but that national umber
- 5:00Speaker 4: is also so, high and THE, nba if you've been
- 5:03Speaker 4: paying attention over the last few, years you'll notice they've
- 5:06Speaker 4: been doing some micro. Transactions you can buy the last
- 5:08Speaker 4: five minutes of a, game you can buy pieces of.
- 5:11Speaker 4: Games they are very strong on social they are very strong.
- 5:14Speaker 4: Globally these are really dominant brands around the. World baseball
- 5:18Speaker 4: just did a great job In. Japan, well THE nba
- 5:20Speaker 4: has a great market In, China, europe so there might
- 5:24Speaker 4: be something coming In europe from THE nba in the near.
- 5:26Speaker 4: Future so if you look at the aggregation of, eyeballs
- 5:30Speaker 4: it might not be people sitting down in front of
- 5:32Speaker 4: THE tv watching quarters one through, four but you've got people's. Attentions,
- 5:37Speaker 4: now the challenge For Adam silver and his owners, Is
- 5:40Speaker 4: i've got the, eyeballs how DO i monetize it in
- 5:43Speaker 4: a new media.
- 5:44Speaker 5: World actually that's a great question BECAUSE i was going to, wonder,
- 5:47Speaker 5: like how do you squeeze? Value and you mentioned The
- 5:49Speaker 5: celtics in terms of the real, estate and how do
- 5:51Speaker 5: you then squeeze more? Value so in, general how do
- 5:53Speaker 5: you do?
- 5:54Speaker 4: That excellent. QUESTION i can't answer that, question SO i
- 5:58Speaker 4: know what the new ownership group is going to. DO
- 6:01Speaker 4: i would say that a global audience would be the
- 6:05Speaker 4: PLACE i would start for THE. Nba you have new
- 6:07Speaker 4: markets in THE. Us we Mentioned vegas and we Mentioned
- 6:09Speaker 4: seattle that will bring a high price. Point then you
- 6:12Speaker 4: talk about maybe A european, league and then your eyeballs
- 6:14Speaker 4: outside The United. States basketball unlike, football and you see
- 6:17Speaker 4: THE nfl is trying awfully hard to broaden its fan
- 6:21Speaker 4: base outside of THE us. Borders it is not happening
- 6:24Speaker 4: as fast as THE. Nba that is a big. Advantage.
- 6:26Speaker 4: Go i'm not one that looks at The twitter followers
- 6:30Speaker 4: and The instagram so, much but if you go check
- 6:33Speaker 4: out THE, nba they lead the sports leagues in global.
- 6:36Speaker 4: Eyeballs that is certainly an area of focus for all basketball.
- 6:40Speaker 3: Teams, scott are you still a crazy hockey?
- 6:43Speaker 4: Dad oh you know about? This YES i. AM i
- 6:47Speaker 4: am off To, Madison. Wisconsin thanks for. Asking i'm off To,
- 6:50Speaker 4: Madison wisconsin in Early april for The, nationals my son's team.
- 6:53Speaker 4: Qualified IF i am not sitting in this office what
- 6:55Speaker 4: you see behind, ME i will be in a ring
- 6:58Speaker 4: somewhere In North, america see.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Folks scott and his Partner evan used to work here
- 7:02Speaker 2: At bloomberg And i'd See scott in always and every.
- 7:04Speaker 3: Weekend i'm, like where are you? Going do and it's like,
- 7:06Speaker 3: serious easy as. LOW i, mean just come.
- 7:10Speaker 4: On and we should Do Josh harris And David, blitzer
- 7:13Speaker 4: as you, know we're focused on investing in youth sports
- 7:15Speaker 4: right now with their unrival Platform goode, right because the
- 7:18Speaker 4: two PLACES i see people spending money irrationally up their.
- 7:21Speaker 5: Pets, Exactly, Scott, scott we gotta, Go we got to.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Go slastion like editor in chief sporticoat Former bloomberger talking
- 7:28Speaker 2: about This celtics six point one billion.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Dollars how about.
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- 7:45Speaker 5: YouTube let's take a look at the market kind of
- 7:47Speaker 5: what you do if we are going to be in
- 7:48Speaker 5: a stagflationary environment for a little, bit if you believe,
- 7:50Speaker 5: that how do you manage? It Sandy brager is chief
- 7:53Speaker 5: client officer At. Espirien she joins us now From. California
- 7:57Speaker 5: so if we kind of like flirt with this dig inflation,
- 8:00Speaker 5: scenario a little lower, growth little higher, inflation how do
- 8:03Speaker 5: you manage, That.
- 8:04Speaker 7: Alex we're not totally worried about seculation at this.
- 8:08Speaker 8: Point we think the economy has been very strong for
- 8:11Speaker 8: the last couple of, years and sure it looks like
- 8:13Speaker 8: it is going to slow in terms of its.
- 8:14Speaker 7: Growth so, far inflation has been.
- 8:17Speaker 8: Stickier than anyone would, like but it should be in.
- 8:20Speaker 8: Check but in terms of portfolios and how we're working
- 8:22Speaker 8: with our clients who are corporate, executives, family family business
- 8:27Speaker 8: owners and, entrepreneurs we're still thinking diversification is really. Important,
- 8:34Speaker 8: volatility regardless of, stagflation are not we think is here to,
- 8:37Speaker 8: stay and having a very diversified portfolio makes a lot of,
- 8:41Speaker 8: sense not only for the near, term but for the years.
- 8:44Speaker 8: Ahead and that's been a very different situation than what
- 8:48Speaker 8: has worked best over the last fifteen.
- 8:51Speaker 7: Years, actually if you go, back look back over your.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Shoulder, sandy what's a diversified portfolio? FOR i guess your typical.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Client, stocks bond, is all.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Alternatives are they a part of that diversification they?
- 9:04Speaker 8: Are, Paul, yeah we have a fair mountain, stocks and
- 9:07Speaker 8: within the stock, portfolio we're tilting toward stocks that haven't
- 9:11Speaker 8: done that well over the last couple of. Years so
- 9:14Speaker 8: we have a lot of value, stocks small cap, stocks
- 9:17Speaker 8: and a large tilt toward, international which we think is.
- 9:20Speaker 8: Important on the bond, side you, know that could be
- 9:23Speaker 8: up to about a third of a client's. Portfolio we're
- 9:26Speaker 8: looking on the shorter end there because our clients are
- 9:29Speaker 8: in the highest tax. Brackets we like mini bonds a.
- 9:31Speaker 8: Lot it makes sense from an after tax. Perspective and
- 9:34Speaker 8: then we have anywhere from about ten to eighteen percent
- 9:38Speaker 8: of client portfolios.
- 9:40Speaker 7: Mostly in alternative alternative.
- 9:42Speaker 8: Investments and these are liquid alternatives and they might even
- 9:46Speaker 8: include things like gold that have been doing really really
- 9:48Speaker 8: well this.
- 9:49Speaker 5: Year what About european equities is sort of expanding on.
- 9:51Speaker 5: That does that rotation have?
- 9:53Speaker 8: Legs we think, so you, know it does look Like
- 9:57Speaker 8: europe is about to spend a lot of money on defaul.
- 10:00Speaker 8: Events and you, know just like The United, states there
- 10:03Speaker 8: are a lot of shocks that are kind of rippling
- 10:05Speaker 8: through the global. Economy but we do Like europe evaluations
- 10:09Speaker 8: are generally. Lower looks like some interesting things could be
- 10:13Speaker 8: happening In. Germany, otherwise you, Know france And switzerland are
- 10:17Speaker 8: looking good from our, perspective and they've been doing really
- 10:19Speaker 8: well this year as THE us stocks have been correcting.
- 10:23Speaker 2: Down about on the fixed income, Side, sandy what are
- 10:26Speaker 2: you advising your clients? Here we're looking at the two
- 10:28Speaker 2: year treasury three point ninety five percent is certainly a
- 10:31Speaker 2: lot better than we've had over the last you, know fifteen.
- 10:33Speaker 3: Years is that? Okay or do you take some credit?
- 10:36Speaker 7: Risk we're not taking a lot of credit risks right, Now.
- 10:40Speaker 8: Paul we think that that staying on the, shorter shorter
- 10:43Speaker 8: term side of the curve makes a lot of. Sense
- 10:46Speaker 8: there's not a lot of extra return available on the
- 10:49Speaker 8: longer term side of the curve at this, point but
- 10:53Speaker 8: we do we do pay attention to the fixed income
- 10:57Speaker 8: and we are a little you, know weary with clients
- 11:01Speaker 8: reminding them that there is risk in fixed income just
- 11:04Speaker 8: like there is in. Stock so as we've experienced the
- 11:07Speaker 8: volatility so far this, quarter some clients have been asking
- 11:10Speaker 8: if they should be rotating more to, bonds and.
- 11:12Speaker 7: We think we don't think that's the.
- 11:15Speaker 8: Case we think having a fair amount of bonds in
- 11:17Speaker 8: the portfolio with some interest rate exposure makes a lot of,
- 11:20Speaker 8: sense but not going too far out on that.
- 11:22Speaker 3: Curve, Sandy thank you so.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Much we appreciate That Sandy, Briger Chief Client officer For,
- 11:27Speaker 2: Experience joining us via zoom From San.
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- 11:45Speaker 3: YouTube all, right.
- 11:46Speaker 5: One story that we are watching Forses. Tesla that stock
- 11:49Speaker 5: is lower today as the company recalls the cyberchuck after
- 11:54Speaker 5: pieces of steel trim come. Loose all, Right joining us
- 11:57Speaker 5: As Craig, Cudel Bloomberg Global Audios, editor All, right what happened?
- 12:01Speaker 9: Here, yeah so this is actually the second time That
- 12:04Speaker 9: tesla's had to do a recall for pieces of trim coming.
- 12:08Speaker 9: Loose and so it's maybe a little bit of a
- 12:12Speaker 9: source of embarrassment because it's one thing to have an
- 12:16Speaker 9: issue pop up that that you, KNOW i think for
- 12:20Speaker 9: for all, automakers even the best, ones you, know they
- 12:23Speaker 9: occasionally will have recalls that are a tad. Embarrassing in this,
- 12:27Speaker 9: case to have it happen, twice you, know granted it
- 12:30Speaker 9: is a different part of the, vehicle but this this,
- 12:33Speaker 9: truck of, course was was so sort of famous For
- 12:37Speaker 9: Elon musk's decision to clad it all in stainless, steel
- 12:40Speaker 9: and apparently they're having trouble with the adhesives to to
- 12:44Speaker 9: keep that steel stuck to the.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Vehicle craig generally, speaking what's the IF i we're going
- 12:49Speaker 2: to go to consumer? Reports what's the general feeling out
- 12:51Speaker 2: there in the auto world about the quality of a
- 12:53Speaker 2: test the?
- 12:54Speaker 9: VEHICLE i, MEAN i THINK i think for the cyber,
- 12:57Speaker 9: truck it's really interesting that this is the eighth call
- 13:00Speaker 9: that they've, done you, know and and to be, fair you,
- 13:05Speaker 9: know some of them have been you, know for minor.
- 13:06Speaker 9: Issues my favorite one last year they violated a font
- 13:12Speaker 9: size rule uh in THE us where, uh you, know
- 13:15Speaker 9: when when you warn a driver, that, uh you, know
- 13:19Speaker 9: of safety critical, data you've got to do it in
- 13:21Speaker 9: a large enough. Font And tesla, uh you know violated.
- 13:24Speaker 9: That so uh you know that of course is not
- 13:27Speaker 9: a particularly you, KNOW i guess it's it's not, unseerious
- 13:30Speaker 9: but it's you, know a relatively minor.
- 13:32Speaker 4: Thing.
- 13:33Speaker 9: Uh some of these fixes that they've, made, uh they've
- 13:36Speaker 9: been able to handle them via over the air software.
- 13:39Speaker 9: Updates but, uh an issue like this trim. Defect you,
- 13:44Speaker 9: know they they will have to uh you, know have
- 13:47Speaker 9: have customers come into the stores or into the service,
- 13:50Speaker 9: centers have a look at the vehicles and in some
- 13:52Speaker 9: cases have to do some repairs that will cost the
- 13:55Speaker 9: company some. Money and you, KNOW i think generally the.
- 13:58Speaker 9: REPUTATION i think early on For, tesla there was a
- 14:01Speaker 9: lot of you, know, uh you, know noise within the
- 14:04Speaker 9: auto industry about how this you, know this company makes
- 14:06Speaker 9: vehicles with you, know big panel. GAPS a lot of
- 14:09Speaker 9: people didn't really necessarily care about. That AND i do
- 14:11Speaker 9: think To tesla's, credit they've gotten better on, quality but,
- 14:15Speaker 9: uh you, know recalls like this don't don't really help that.
- 14:17Speaker 9: Reputation so it stop down almost two.
- 14:20Speaker 5: Percent but it's not like it's been. Smoothsale and it's
- 14:22Speaker 5: been a really terrible few months For. Tesla what do
- 14:26Speaker 5: you what provides a bottom for this?
- 14:28Speaker 9: STOCK i, think you, know the the cyber, truck you,
- 14:34Speaker 9: know has been something of a letdown for, them Right
- 14:37Speaker 9: it's it's the one new vehicle that they've, had, uh you,
- 14:40Speaker 9: know really since The MODEL y came out back in twenty,
- 14:43Speaker 9: twenty and SO i think there were some hopes that
- 14:45Speaker 9: this this would be a big, hit AND i think
- 14:49Speaker 9: it's it's not really sort of. DELIVERED i think the
- 14:52Speaker 9: thing to look forward to if you're an investor is
- 14:55Speaker 9: is the redesign model why. That earlier this year the
- 14:59Speaker 9: company sort of released a look at the model why
- 15:02Speaker 9: it interestingly has on the front end it looks a
- 15:05Speaker 9: little bit more like a cyber, truck and then it's
- 15:07Speaker 9: got a light beam you, know running across across it
- 15:11Speaker 9: the way the cyber truck.
- 15:12Speaker 4: Does.
- 15:13Speaker 9: Uh there's some improvements on the, interior BUT i think
- 15:15Speaker 9: there are some real questions, about you, know is this
- 15:18Speaker 9: enough in terms of you, know real significant updates and
- 15:21Speaker 9: upgrades to keep up with with a company like BY,
- 15:25Speaker 9: d say In. China you, know they they made a
- 15:27Speaker 9: lot of noise this week and turned a lot of
- 15:29Speaker 9: heads with these claims about you, know being able to
- 15:32Speaker 9: charge your ev in five. Minutes AND i think there's you,
- 15:35Speaker 9: know a sort of, creeping, uh you know sense among
- 15:39Speaker 9: investors that you, know if you want to see sort
- 15:42Speaker 9: of innovation in, evs you really look To china and
- 15:45Speaker 9: look to companies like BY d or sham as opposed
- 15:48Speaker 9: to To, tesla and that in and of.
- 15:50Speaker 2: Itself craig is a subject to discussion here when you
- 15:54Speaker 2: when you talk to The western auto companies that you speak,
- 15:56Speaker 2: with whether it's A volkslagon or even A ford or,
- 15:59Speaker 2: whatever are they prepared to seed THE ev market To?
- 16:03Speaker 9: CHINA i, MEAN i think the the the you, know
- 16:07Speaker 9: fact of the matter, is you, know it's already been.
- 16:09Speaker 9: Seated you, know if you if you count you, know
- 16:13Speaker 9: battery electric vehicles and plug in hybrid electric vehicles, together you,
- 16:17Speaker 9: know it's roughly two and three electric vehicles that are
- 16:20Speaker 9: sold are sold In. China and you, KNOW i Think,
- 16:23Speaker 9: tesla to its credit is is you, know a player
- 16:27Speaker 9: to be reckoned with in that. Market but you, know
- 16:29Speaker 9: in terms of who's the, leader it's far and away
- 16:31Speaker 9: by D i Think, Jaomi, uh you, know is really
- 16:35Speaker 9: getting a lot of, attention you, know not just among
- 16:37Speaker 9: media types like, me but you, Know FORD Ceo Jim
- 16:40Speaker 9: farley has has really sung that company's praises and and
- 16:44Speaker 9: he's not. Alone there are other executives in the industry
- 16:47Speaker 9: WHO i know really are watching what they're up to.
- 16:50Speaker 9: Closely it's sort of The apple car That apple you,
- 16:52Speaker 9: know didn't manage to pull, off didn't manage to Make
- 16:55Speaker 9: AND i think there's a lot of concern within the
- 16:58Speaker 9: industry about you, know just how much of a Lead chinese,
- 17:02Speaker 9: manufacturers and In johnny's case of Tech, company just how
- 17:05Speaker 9: much of a lead they've.
- 17:06Speaker 5: Built when we take a look quickly at the valuations
- 17:09Speaker 5: for all these, automakers particularly an evie, market, like have
- 17:12Speaker 5: we rerated enough for the decline and demand and for
- 17:15Speaker 5: the tariff.
- 17:15Speaker 9: Risks it's a good. QUESTION i, think you, know a
- 17:18Speaker 9: lot of a lot of the manufacturers have really been
- 17:22Speaker 9: beaten down by the tariff, uncertainty and that's been a global.
- 17:26Speaker 9: STORY i Think tesla is still after this you, know
- 17:30Speaker 9: pretty significant decline since since Mid, december is still an
- 17:34Speaker 9: anomaly in the industry where they are are valued at you,
- 17:37Speaker 9: know many multiples of anybody. Else and, so you, KNOW
- 17:42Speaker 9: i think there's still hope among some investors and a
- 17:46Speaker 9: belief that there's a reason to treat this stock, differently
- 17:50Speaker 9: That musk will eventually deliver on his claims about you,
- 17:53Speaker 9: know self driving, vehicles and and he's ALSO i, think you,
- 17:57Speaker 9: know emphasized the potential For tesla to become you, KNOW
- 18:00Speaker 9: ai and robotics company even more so than a. Carmaker
- 18:06Speaker 9: BUT i think you know in terms of what this
- 18:08Speaker 9: company does in here now and what it makes its
- 18:11Speaker 9: money on its, cars and that business is really slowing,
- 18:14Speaker 9: down all, Right.
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