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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Didty Bucks Sean Combs busted
- 0:11Speaker 1: paying one hundred thousand dollars to illegally obtain that Cassie
- 0:17Speaker 1: beat down video from the Intercontinental rent Row. I'm Nancy Grace,
- 0:23Speaker 1: this is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
- 0:26Speaker 1: all the horror stories.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Fully testimony with.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Her one assistant having go to the hospital working for
- 0:33Speaker 1: Ditty was making her go bald. She was losing her hair.
- 0:37Speaker 3: He is beating the living crap out of your daughter.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Did he had three guns across his lap? I don't
- 0:44Speaker 3: like this back and forth.
- 0:45Speaker 1: I prefer guns bombshell in the courtroom. In the last hours,
- 0:51Speaker 1: it's revealed that Sean Combs aka Ditty allegedly paid off
- 0:58Speaker 1: an employee to the tune of one hundred thousand dollars
- 1:03Speaker 1: to get that Cassie Ventura video. Let's take a look
- 1:08Speaker 1: at the Cassie Ventura beat down video. Now, it was
- 1:12Speaker 1: speculated upon so much in the press. Where did the
- 1:16Speaker 1: video come from? Did it come from the raid on?
- 1:20Speaker 1: Did he's mansion? Did he have it there? Where did
- 1:23Speaker 1: it come from? Wow? You wonder why he paid one
- 1:27Speaker 1: hundred thousand our dollars for this? Did he think it
- 1:33Speaker 1: would never come to light. Busted in court sworn testimony
- 1:42Speaker 1: that Shawn Holmes paid one hundred thousand dollars to get
- 1:47Speaker 1: his mits on this video. Look at it. I want
- 1:51Speaker 1: to see more of the Cassie video. This is the
- 1:53Speaker 1: video that cracked this case wide open. Cassie Ventura used
- 1:59Speaker 1: this to sue Sean Comes. Within twenty four hours, when
- 2:04Speaker 1: he realized she had oh this, he settled and then
- 2:10Speaker 1: released his scraping apology video. Now this goes on. He
- 2:17Speaker 1: drags her off and nothing but a tiwl. So arrogant
- 2:21Speaker 1: he thinks that's okay to run around a paush hotel
- 2:24Speaker 1: like the Inner Continental and nothing but a towel. Thank Heaven,
- 2:27Speaker 1: I didn't have to see that towel drop and see
- 2:29Speaker 1: the TUTSI roll. But that said, it goes on. But
- 2:35Speaker 1: this video was used in her civil lawsuit. And this
- 2:38Speaker 1: video was like pulling the tiger by the tail. You
- 2:42Speaker 1: can't hold on and you can't let go. Because once
- 2:45Speaker 1: the Feds saw this, they had to do something. The
- 2:49Speaker 1: statute of limitations had run in the local jurisdiction, so
- 2:53Speaker 1: it was up to the Feds, and what were they
- 2:55Speaker 1: gonna do? Stand there with their thumb up their ear end. No,
- 2:57Speaker 1: they had to act. Therefore, the multi count federal indictment.
- 3:05Speaker 1: No wondering. He paid one hundred grand to get his
- 3:07Speaker 1: mits on it, joining me an all star panel, but
- 3:09Speaker 1: first trate out to Sydney Sumner Crime Stories investigative reporter
- 3:14Speaker 1: who has been on the case from the very beginning.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner one hundred thousand dollars, what happened? I bet
- 3:23Speaker 1: Sewan comes is just twirling around in his chair in
- 3:26Speaker 1: that courtroom.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Tell me everything, well, Nancy Eddie Garcia told us that
- 3:33Speaker 4: Christina Coorum was actually the first person to reach out
- 3:37Speaker 4: to him trying to obtain a copy of that video,
- 3:41Speaker 4: and Garcia told her, no, there's no way I can
- 3:43Speaker 4: do that. You're going to have to talk to hotel
- 3:46Speaker 4: management or you're going to have to get a subpoena.
- 3:49Speaker 4: And after talking on the phone with Christina Korum and
- 3:52Speaker 4: telling her no, this isn't an option, she then showed
- 3:56Speaker 4: up to the hotel asked him in person again. He
- 4:00Speaker 4: again politely told her no, she would have to go
- 4:02Speaker 4: through the proper channels to get that video, but he
- 4:05Speaker 4: did tell her, you know, off the record, this video
- 4:08Speaker 4: is bad, so Charsina Korum then calls back and puts
- 4:13Speaker 4: Sean Combs on the phone to have Combs of Kim
- 4:18Speaker 4: to get a copy of this video. Again, Garcia is like,
- 4:22Speaker 4: you know what, No, I can't do this. This has
- 4:24Speaker 4: to go through management, and Garcia starts running that up
- 4:27Speaker 4: the chain. So, now that he has had three separate
- 4:30Speaker 4: conversations where he's had to tell these people no, he
- 4:34Speaker 4: goes to management and tells them what's going on. Then
- 4:38Speaker 4: he gets a call on his personal cell phone number,
- 4:41Speaker 4: which he did not give out, and at this point
- 4:44Speaker 4: he's a little bit scared. He gets this call on
- 4:47Speaker 4: his personal phone number. Both Christina Korum and Combs are
- 4:50Speaker 4: still trying to convince him to give this video, and
- 4:53Speaker 4: Comb mentions, you know what, I'll take care of you
- 4:56Speaker 4: if you help me out, and Garcia immediately took that
- 4:59Speaker 4: to be a finance she'll offer. So Garcia goes to
- 5:02Speaker 4: his boss and his boss says, you know what, tell
- 5:04Speaker 4: them we'll do it for fifty K, and he relays
- 5:08Speaker 4: that over the phone back to Comb's and Comb agrees
- 5:12Speaker 4: to this fifty k, how soon can you get it
- 5:15Speaker 4: to me? Here's the address where you should meet me.
- 5:18Speaker 4: So Eddie goes to this meeting with a USB stick
- 5:22Speaker 4: of the only copy of the video, hands it over
- 5:25Speaker 4: and Christina Korum is there, so he calls Koram to
- 5:28Speaker 4: let her know that he's arrived to make this exchange.
- 5:32Speaker 4: She gets a security guard to bring him up to
- 5:34Speaker 4: Combe's room and he meets with Combs. Christina Koram is
- 5:38Speaker 4: in and out of the room. Combs wanted to ensure
- 5:40Speaker 4: that this was the only copy of that video. He
- 5:43Speaker 4: made Garcia repeat that like ten times, and he also
- 5:47Speaker 4: told Garcia that Cassie wanted this video gone too. Everybody
- 5:51Speaker 4: wanted this to disappear. Garcia was doing the right thing
- 5:55Speaker 4: by giving them the copy of this video. So Comb's
- 5:59Speaker 4: make Garcia sign these intimidating documents. Garcia just wants to
- 6:04Speaker 4: get out of there, and those documents were confirming that
- 6:09Speaker 4: that was the only copy of this video in an NBA.
- 6:13Speaker 4: So Garcia testifies that he didn't really read those documents
- 6:18Speaker 4: to get an idea of what he was actually signing.
- 6:21Speaker 4: He just wanted to get out of there as quickly
- 6:23Speaker 4: as possible. Then Comb start counting out this huge sum
- 6:28Speaker 4: in stacks of ten thousand dollars, and they had agreed
- 6:32Speaker 4: upon fifty k, but comb counts out one hundred thousand,
- 6:36Speaker 4: and Combs intended that money, So the fifty k for
- 6:39Speaker 4: the actual video, then split the other fifty between you
- 6:42Speaker 4: and the security guard that responded to the incident to
- 6:46Speaker 4: keep this quiet. So that's how Garcia took the extra
- 6:49Speaker 4: fifty k that was coming in. And he says Christina
- 6:52Speaker 4: Korum was in and out of the room as Combs
- 6:54Speaker 4: was counting this money, so she knew that he was
- 6:58Speaker 4: being paid off for giving the copy of this video.
- 7:02Speaker 4: And a few weeks later, Combs checked in with him
- 7:04Speaker 4: one more time just to make sure that was the
- 7:07Speaker 4: only copy, and he never heard from him again.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Joining me. In addition to Sidney Sumner in an All
- 7:12Speaker 1: Star panel, Nima Ramani with us. Let me tell you
- 7:16Speaker 1: about Ramani, former federal prosecutor, turn trial lawyer, president the
- 7:21Speaker 1: West Coast Trial Lawyers, author of Harvard to hashtag. It
- 7:25Speaker 1: goes on and on and on, but the important part
- 7:28Speaker 1: for me is he was a fed. Okay, the state
- 7:33Speaker 1: system is very different from the federal system. I was
- 7:36Speaker 1: lucky to get to be a FED for three years
- 7:38Speaker 1: before I became a violent crime prosecutor. Very different animal
- 7:44Speaker 1: Nima Ramani, can you say unindicted co conspirator, and I'm
- 7:51Speaker 1: talking about Korum, who denies all wrongdoing. She was there,
- 7:57Speaker 1: she was on the scene on endie co conspirator. Explain, Nancy.
- 8:03Speaker 5: We've been talking about Christina horm for months now, and
- 8:06Speaker 5: she's comebs, this right hand woman, and she knows where
- 8:09Speaker 5: the bodies are buried, and she's actually an active participant
- 8:12Speaker 5: in this obstruction of justice, this.
- 8:14Speaker 6: Witness tampering scheme, this bribery scheme, which of course is
- 8:18Speaker 6: a Rico predicate act.
- 8:20Speaker 5: So I believe the FEDS are leaning on her and
- 8:23Speaker 5: she will testify. She's going to turn on her former employer,
- 8:28Speaker 5: Sean Diddy Combs. It's just a matter of days before
- 8:31Speaker 5: she's on the stand.
- 8:32Speaker 1: You know, Ramani, I've never accused you of throwing around
- 8:36Speaker 1: Latin or legal phrases. Again, you know yourrs don't like that.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Not everybody is miserable enough to have lived through law
- 8:45Speaker 1: school and had to put up with other lawyers for
- 8:47Speaker 1: a living. You know, they can be very obnoxious. You're
- 8:50Speaker 1: mistuck on an elevator in the courthouse with a bunch
- 8:52Speaker 1: of lawyers. They're constantly throwing around legal terms and Latin
- 8:55Speaker 1: terms to impress people. Please stop when you say this
- 8:59Speaker 1: is a predicate act. Could you just please talk and
- 9:03Speaker 1: regular people talk, because I had rage A the other
- 9:07Speaker 1: day telling me how Comes is not going to be convicted,
- 9:10Speaker 1: that this is not sex trafficking and it's not rico.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Rico is it's the prize here, all right, that's what
- 9:17Speaker 1: the feds want. They want a conviction on rico, which
- 9:20Speaker 1: is a criminal enterprise. Simply put, it can be a
- 9:23Speaker 1: loosely joined together group of people that take part in
- 9:29Speaker 1: a criminal enterprise. That's what it is. It's really not hard,
- 9:34Speaker 1: no legal mumbo jumbo necessary. And when you have employees
- 9:39Speaker 1: or minions as I call them, doing your illegal bidding
- 9:43Speaker 1: such as helping bribe someone, which is extortion, that makes
- 9:49Speaker 1: them part of the criminal enterprise. Extortion is a predicate act.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Now explain in regular people talk what you mean and
- 9:58Speaker 1: why this is a reco case. It's not hard, it's.
- 10:01Speaker 5: Not and that's why Rayja doesn't understand the law. So,
- 10:05Speaker 5: like you said, you just need that loose association that's
- 10:07Speaker 5: the criminal enterprise.
- 10:08Speaker 6: Bad boy records with ditty at the top. That's enough.
- 10:12Speaker 5: Then you need a pattern of racketeering activities. So what
- 10:15Speaker 5: does that mean. You just need two crimes that happen
- 10:19Speaker 5: within a ten year period. So what are those types
- 10:21Speaker 5: of crimes. It could be sex trafficking, it can be prostitution,
- 10:25Speaker 5: and say we've had lots of evidence of that, obstruction
- 10:27Speaker 5: of justice, witness tampering arson kid cutty his car.
- 10:33Speaker 6: So you can have bribery. So as long as you
- 10:36Speaker 6: have these what we.
- 10:37Speaker 5: Call racketeering predicate acts or these crimes, that's the racket.
- 10:42Speaker 6: So you don't need to be the mom, you don't
- 10:44Speaker 6: need to be a drug cartel or a streakingk.
- 10:47Speaker 5: You can convince Combs of racketeering as long as you
- 10:50Speaker 5: have these elements, which we do in this case. And
- 10:54Speaker 5: the reason Rico is so important and so powerful, Nancy
- 10:57Speaker 5: is you can bring in a lot of evidence.
- 11:00Speaker 6: And a lot of people in the case. So someone
- 11:02Speaker 6: like Christina jorm even if she didn't make the actual payment,
- 11:07Speaker 6: as long as she is a co conspirator she enters
- 11:10Speaker 6: into this unlawful agreement with Diddy to bribe someone or
- 11:15Speaker 6: to pay off a witness, she's on the hook for
- 11:19Speaker 6: all the crimes.
- 11:20Speaker 5: Further into the conspiracy, even the sex trafficking so y Ja.
- 11:25Speaker 6: With all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about.
- 11:27Speaker 1: He you know, it doesn't have to be a bunch
- 11:29Speaker 1: of thugs. It doesn't have to be the mob. Rico
- 11:32Speaker 1: has been used in LA I might add wide spread corruption.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Rico has been used on the LAPD and it worked
- 11:43Speaker 1: on cops. So it's not just about the mob. For
- 11:47Speaker 1: Rico joining me. In addition to Sydney and Nima, Rob
- 11:51Speaker 1: Shecheeter is with me and Rob Sheeter sometimes I don't
- 11:54Speaker 1: know if I love you or I hate you. Because
- 11:58Speaker 1: you worked for Diddie Seawan Combs for years. You quit,
- 12:03Speaker 1: God bless you. You had to see legal turn crap
- 12:07Speaker 1: ton of misbehavior. Let me tell you about Shooter. He's
- 12:13Speaker 1: a PR guru. He worked for Combs. He orchestrated tons
- 12:18Speaker 1: of combs. PR and PR was comes specialty in his mind,
- 12:23Speaker 1: and he was a tyrant. He is a host of
- 12:27Speaker 1: Naughty but Nice podcast and that's it. Rob Shooter s
- 12:31Speaker 1: h U T E R Not Bang Bang Shoot Robshooter
- 12:35Speaker 1: dot substack dot com and author of the ForWord Answer Shooter.
- 12:42Speaker 1: With that introduction, are you surprised? Comes suppusted and a
- 12:49Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars extortion.
- 12:53Speaker 7: No, I'm not surprised. But first of all, let me say, Nancy,
- 12:56Speaker 7: I think you love me. I know you don't hate me.
- 12:58Speaker 7: I think it's loved. How about back to the subject
- 13:01Speaker 7: matter at hand. If he was a bully, he had
- 13:04Speaker 7: a lot of money. He liked to flash it around.
- 13:06Speaker 7: I remember going to restaurants with him and he always
- 13:09Speaker 7: had cash and he'd always have one hundred dollars bill
- 13:12Speaker 7: in his hand to give the matre d to get
- 13:13Speaker 7: a better table.
- 13:15Speaker 2: He gave huge tips. He always used to say tip.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, let me just hold on.
- 13:22Speaker 1: You say so much, I might drink you from the fire. Hydicht,
- 13:24Speaker 1: let me get this picture. So I got Sean Combs
- 13:27Speaker 1: in his entourage at some fancy restaurant that I would
- 13:32Speaker 1: never dream of putting my toe in. And he gets
- 13:36Speaker 1: a seat. But it's not the right seat in the
- 13:39Speaker 1: fancy restaurant. So he's got to get the right seat.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Are you serious? He would pay an extra one hundred
- 13:47Speaker 1: dollars to get not just a seat, but the right seat.
- 13:51Speaker 7: It really mattered to him. This is who he is.
- 13:54Speaker 7: I couldn't care less where I sat. I'd be lucky
- 13:56Speaker 7: enough to get in. For him, it really did matter.
- 14:00Speaker 7: He thought everybody was watching him, and to some extent
- 14:02Speaker 7: that was true. And he thought having did not sit at.
- 14:05Speaker 6: The best table was a bad look.
- 14:08Speaker 2: And so he would make sure that wouldn't happen.
- 14:10Speaker 1: How you do if you seat Sean Combs by the
- 14:13Speaker 1: men's bathroom or the kitchen he's forbid, or the entry
- 14:17Speaker 1: way where he might feel the wind when they opened
- 14:20Speaker 1: the door, hta in Oh, that ain't gonna happen. Just
- 14:23Speaker 1: give me an example. What are some of the restaurants
- 14:26Speaker 1: that Sean Combs would favor.
- 14:28Speaker 7: There was a restaurant in New York that he loved
- 14:30Speaker 7: called Nobu. It's still open.
- 14:31Speaker 2: But he also too, I went as in his calm ones.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Do you know how much one piece of sushi is
- 14:36Speaker 1: at Nobu? It's like forty dollars one? And I don't
- 14:41Speaker 1: mean a roll shooter. I'm not talking about six pieces.
- 14:44Speaker 1: I'm talking about one little piece. Seventy Jerry forty bucks Nobou.
- 14:49Speaker 2: It's crazy.
- 14:50Speaker 7: And then he puts even morebody down on the table
- 14:53Speaker 7: to get what he thinks is the seat he deserves.
- 14:55Speaker 7: My point here, though, is he is used to throwing
- 14:58Speaker 7: money and any situation to get what he wants.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Why the way you said that throwing a money? Okay,
- 15:07Speaker 1: go ahead, I want to hear about one hundred thousand dollars.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Of money, Boney.
- 15:11Speaker 7: I was withsing once and he was told his fashion
- 15:13Speaker 7: week in New York and he wanted to go to
- 15:15Speaker 7: a fashion show. And I called the fashion people to
- 15:18Speaker 7: try and get him in and he was told no.
- 15:20Speaker 7: So what did did he do? This might sound familiar.
- 15:23Speaker 7: He asked me for the number, and he called himself,
- 15:25Speaker 7: and I think he offered money to an assistant to
- 15:28Speaker 7: young stylist.
- 15:29Speaker 8: We are living in this Dirty Diddy dystopian dumpster world.
- 15:33Speaker 8: In some way, shape or form, Dirty Diddy is going down.
- 15:36Speaker 7: My time working with Diddy was extraordinary, Nancy. I've never
- 15:39Speaker 7: experienced anything like that. Again, he was the ringmaster and
- 15:43Speaker 7: we played along with his circus.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Again, when you don't know what horse, look at his
- 15:49Speaker 1: track record. Diddy busted Diddy bucks one hundred thousand dollars
- 15:54Speaker 1: paid off for what he thought was the only copy
- 15:58Speaker 1: of the Cassie Ventura beat Down video. Why would he
- 16:02Speaker 1: pay one hundred thousand dollars? Oh there he is half
- 16:06Speaker 1: naked again. Oh he's walking that way because he's dragging
- 16:09Speaker 1: Cassie Ventira behind him one hundred thousand dollars. Why did
- 16:15Speaker 1: he pay that? Why did he pay four hundred thousand
- 16:18Speaker 1: dollars to Mia and the defense tried so hard to
- 16:23Speaker 1: discredit her? Why did he pay twenty mil to Cassi
- 16:27Speaker 1: Ventira to get her to shut her pie hole? But
- 16:32Speaker 1: was it Sydney Sumner? Was it the only copy of
- 16:37Speaker 1: the video?
- 16:37Speaker 4: Unbeknownst to Eddie Garcia, it was not. He believed that
- 16:42Speaker 4: Israel Flores was very by the book, and that's the
- 16:45Speaker 4: security guard we heard from on the stand first, and
- 16:49Speaker 4: he didn't think that Israel Flores would have taken a
- 16:51Speaker 4: copy of at home. But Flora testified that he wanted
- 16:54Speaker 4: to show his wife what had happened because otherwise she
- 16:57Speaker 4: wouldn't believe in that phone video that he took of
- 17:02Speaker 4: The surveillance footage ended up being one of the only
- 17:05Speaker 4: surviving copies as far as we know, we still don't
- 17:08Speaker 4: know exactly how CNN obtained their copy of the video.
- 17:14Speaker 6: Well, you know.
- 17:15Speaker 1: What, Robert Crispins joining me private investigator was with former
- 17:21Speaker 1: Federal Task Force officer for the US Department of Justice
- 17:25Speaker 1: in the Miami Field Division. They're not sitting around twiddling
- 17:29Speaker 1: their thumbs. Former homicide Crimes against Children investigator. He is
- 17:33Speaker 1: now at Crispin Investigations dot com. Crispin, don't you just
- 17:39Speaker 1: hate it when you blackmail somebody to the team of
- 17:42Speaker 1: one hundred grand and there's another video floating around rent Row?
- 17:46Speaker 9: I mean, really, come on, think about it. Do you
- 17:48Speaker 9: really think that no one else was going to have
- 17:51Speaker 9: a video of ditting kicking the hell out of somebody,
- 17:56Speaker 9: especially Cassie Ventura?
- 17:58Speaker 6: Come on?
- 18:00Speaker 9: So here's the beauty of all this with the government,
- 18:04Speaker 9: this cast of guard Leonard stuffed this King for a day,
- 18:07Speaker 9: Queen for a day.
- 18:08Speaker 6: They need people to.
- 18:10Speaker 9: Give testimony ilure being indicted to say what happened?
- 18:15Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, Crispin, hold on just a moment. I
- 18:18Speaker 1: want you to factor this into your answer. Hold on
- 18:22Speaker 1: a shooter with me, Rob Shooter? What was Sean Comes's
- 18:26Speaker 1: reaction typically when he doesn't get his way, because in court,
- 18:32Speaker 1: when he was watching Brian Steele, who's a very very
- 18:36Speaker 1: good trial lawyer. It's a great defense attorney, right, I've
- 18:40Speaker 1: watched him in action. So Steele started off with Mia
- 18:44Speaker 1: with the Andy and Mayberry approach, trying to get the answers,
- 18:47Speaker 1: but yet being genial to her. He didn't want to
- 18:50Speaker 1: beat up on mea And you could see Sean Kin's
- 18:52Speaker 1: going Hugh Ell moving around and twisting around and holding
- 18:57Speaker 1: his face all that. I mean, he could see him
- 19:00Speaker 1: and then cudainly Brian still has a change of heart.
- 19:04Speaker 1: I mean, you can imagine if if Diddy is driving,
- 19:07Speaker 1: is steering that ship, then he gets really mean to me.
- 19:11Speaker 1: Still does so did he not getting what he wants?
- 19:15Speaker 1: Can you imagine how angry he was when he finds
- 19:21Speaker 1: out that was one hundred thousand dollars right down the
- 19:24Speaker 1: crapper there was another copy.
- 19:26Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure he was absolutely furious. Let me tell
- 19:30Speaker 7: you a little bit of a secret here about Puffey.
- 19:32Speaker 7: But somebody with all the money that he has is
- 19:35Speaker 7: incredibly cheap. He never wanted to pay for anything he
- 19:40Speaker 7: didn't have to pay for.
- 19:41Speaker 2: He wanted to.
- 19:41Speaker 7: Get free clothes, free dinners, free tickets if he went
- 19:45Speaker 7: at the club's restaurants. He just didn't want to pay
- 19:48Speaker 7: for stuff. And so for him to have to reach
- 19:50Speaker 7: into his own pockets and pay one hundred thousand dollars,
- 19:53Speaker 7: which I think that tape is incredibly cheap. That tape
- 19:57Speaker 7: is going to change his life, and so it was
- 19:59Speaker 7: worth tens of millions of dollars for him to get
- 20:02Speaker 7: it for one hundred thousand dollars cheap, and then to
- 20:05Speaker 7: find out he didn't get it all there was another copy.
- 20:08Speaker 2: He will have exploded.
- 20:11Speaker 1: And he's exploded, what do you mean? Throw himself on
- 20:13Speaker 1: the floor and kick like a school a school child,
- 20:16Speaker 1: a two year old, screaming and kicking and snarling and crying.
- 20:20Speaker 1: What does he do when he doesn't get his way? Well,
- 20:22Speaker 1: I know he beats Cassie Ventra and others. But what
- 20:26Speaker 1: is he like when he doesn't get his way? Or
- 20:28Speaker 1: does he always get his way?
- 20:29Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting.
- 20:30Speaker 7: He normally always does get his own way, and so
- 20:32Speaker 7: when he doesn't, it's hard for him to believe.
- 20:34Speaker 2: It's like a shock. At first. He doesn't quite know
- 20:37Speaker 2: what to do because he never gets told no.
- 20:40Speaker 7: There's nothing that he doesn't think he can fix with money,
- 20:44Speaker 7: with power, with making a personal phone call.
- 20:46Speaker 2: He deeply believes.
- 20:48Speaker 7: In his own ability to convince you to do something
- 20:50Speaker 7: that you otherwise wouldn't want to do. But he's a screamer,
- 20:54Speaker 7: he's a shouter, He's a violent man. He could throw things.
- 20:57Speaker 7: I've seen him get so angry that he looks like
- 21:01Speaker 7: he's about to pash out, pass out. The veins in
- 21:04Speaker 7: his neck are popping.
- 21:06Speaker 2: He turns into.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Okay, I need to hear about that, Shooter. What do
- 21:09Speaker 1: you mean When he doesn't get his way, he looks
- 21:10Speaker 1: like he's going to pass out.
- 21:12Speaker 7: He gets so angry and answer. He gets so angry
- 21:17Speaker 7: he forgets to breathe like he.
- 21:19Speaker 2: Just can't believe that somebody says no to him. He
- 21:23Speaker 2: can't believe it.
- 21:24Speaker 1: I'm just imagining when Shawn comes finds out there's another
- 21:30Speaker 1: video floating around crime stories with Nancy Grace, Rob Shooter
- 21:44Speaker 1: joining us from Naughty but Nice. Oh that but hold
- 21:48Speaker 1: on everybody very quickly to Robert Crispin. Now that you
- 21:52Speaker 1: know more about Shawn comes from someone that knows him.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Can you only imagine him gnashing his teeth and twisting
- 22:00Speaker 1: his tail when he finds out there's another video and
- 22:03Speaker 1: he gave a harndd away for it.
- 22:06Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, he's not too happy right now. And
- 22:10Speaker 9: now people are parading in and talking about it.
- 22:13Speaker 1: People that could have been indicted, but they needed these people.
- 22:17Speaker 9: They needed to seal up that part of the testimony.
- 22:20Speaker 6: For that money.
- 22:21Speaker 1: We are live at the Federal Courthouse in downtown Manhattan,
- 22:25Speaker 1: the Monahan Building, standing by his investigative reporter, Lauren Conlins.
- 22:29Speaker 1: He's been in the courtroom all day long. Start off
- 22:32Speaker 1: Pop Crime TV. What a bomb, a state bomb for
- 22:37Speaker 1: the defense druck right in the middle of that clatch
- 22:40Speaker 1: of lawyers. One hundred thousand dollars Diddybucks paid all four bribery.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Bribery which, as Romani pointed out, is a predicate at.
- 22:52Speaker 1: You have to have an underlying felony or predicate at
- 22:55Speaker 1: to prove Rico, tell me how that went over in
- 22:58Speaker 1: the courtroom. Yes, Nancy.
- 23:00Speaker 3: We started off by getting a really big interruption by
- 23:03Speaker 3: a woman that works for the MTA. The entire courtroom
- 23:07Speaker 3: turned around. This is before Eddie Garcia, the witness, walked in.
- 23:11Speaker 3: But that was quite a moment. She was screaming at
- 23:13Speaker 3: the press, saying that the press is awful and the
- 23:15Speaker 3: press is laughing at Ditty, And you should have seen
- 23:17Speaker 3: Ditty's face as well as everyone in the courtroom.
- 23:19Speaker 1: We were all in shock.
- 23:21Speaker 3: But back to Eddie Garcia, I mean, this testimony was
- 23:26Speaker 3: incredibly important to this case, as you know. He testified
- 23:29Speaker 3: that he received multiple calls from Christina Porum, Ditty's assistant,
- 23:34Speaker 3: before she eventually passed the phone over to Sean Holmes himself.
- 23:38Speaker 3: Eddie Garcia described talking to him saying, you know, look,
- 23:41Speaker 3: I already told your assistant here, but I don't have
- 23:43Speaker 3: any clearance to obtain this video that you want me
- 23:47Speaker 3: to obtain.
- 23:48Speaker 1: I cannot go in this room.
- 23:49Speaker 3: Only my boss can do that. And he described did
- 23:53Speaker 3: he kind of just buttering him up, saying, you know,
- 23:56Speaker 3: I know you can do it, Eddie, I believe.
- 23:58Speaker 2: In you type of thing.
- 23:59Speaker 3: And he also described Diddy is being very nervous seeming
- 24:02Speaker 3: on the phone saying, look, this could destroy my reputation.
- 24:06Speaker 10: If it gets out.
- 24:07Speaker 3: Now he said, okay, you know, I'll talk to my boss,
- 24:09Speaker 3: et cetera. And this was actually after receiving a call
- 24:13Speaker 3: from Ditty and Christina on his cell phone. They started
- 24:16Speaker 3: off by calling him at the general security desk. They
- 24:19Speaker 3: somehow got his cell phone, which he said did make
- 24:21Speaker 3: him a little bit nervous, and he said that, you know,
- 24:25Speaker 3: he talked to his boss and he said, look, this is.
- 24:27Speaker 1: What's going on.
- 24:28Speaker 3: They want this video and his boss said, Okay, tell
- 24:31Speaker 3: him fifty thousand dollars. They make this meeting happen where
- 24:35Speaker 3: Diddy tells him a meeting place. He goes and gets
- 24:38Speaker 3: this black USB from his boss at the Intercontinental, and
- 24:43Speaker 3: he goes and he meets with Ditty, and he describes
- 24:46Speaker 3: being taken up to this room by one of Ditty's
- 24:48Speaker 3: security guards. He meets with Christina Korum and then eventually Diddy,
- 24:52Speaker 3: and he says that after some back and forth, did
- 24:55Speaker 3: he requested the IDs of Eddie Garcia and his boss,
- 25:00Speaker 3: another gentleman. And one of the first testimonies we heard,
- 25:03Speaker 3: I think it actually was the first one was Israel Flores,
- 25:06Speaker 3: who also was on duty that day. But Eddie Garcia said,
- 25:10Speaker 3: I don't think that Israel Flores is going to go
- 25:12Speaker 3: for this. So they got the idea of somebody else
- 25:15Speaker 3: and they texted these to him. He went in another room,
- 25:18Speaker 3: came back, got an NDA. Eddie Garcia had to sign
- 25:22Speaker 3: this this NDA, and then eventually did He came back
- 25:25Speaker 3: with a brown bag of money and a money counter,
- 25:28Speaker 3: and he did not get fifty thousand dollars. He got
- 25:31Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars. And he also said that about
- 25:34Speaker 3: two weeks later it was easter did he called him
- 25:37Speaker 3: again to check in, saying, Eddie, my angel, you know,
- 25:40Speaker 3: how are you have you heard anything or anybody mentioned
- 25:43Speaker 3: this video at all? And he said no, and.
- 25:46Speaker 1: That was that. Could you tell me what this reaction
- 25:49Speaker 1: in the courtroom when it came out from not one
- 25:54Speaker 1: but two witnesses that Comes had bribed one hundred thousand
- 25:58Speaker 1: dollars to get that video.
- 26:00Speaker 3: I'd say today the jury is much more reserved than
- 26:04Speaker 3: they were while listening to Mia. I mean, this is
- 26:08Speaker 3: important testimony, so they are listening intently. I would say
- 26:11Speaker 3: their heads kind of go back and forth between the
- 26:13Speaker 3: lawyer and the witness, you know, appropriately, and they look
- 26:18Speaker 3: at the documents that they're reading. We saw multiple times
- 26:23Speaker 3: the NDA on the screen and these jurors they were
- 26:26Speaker 3: reading it. They wanted to catch every word here.
- 26:28Speaker 1: You know, I'm very curious to doctor Bethany Marshall joining
- 26:32Speaker 1: a psychoanalyst out of la and author doctor Bethany to
- 26:38Speaker 1: hear what she's saying, what Lauren Colin is stating, to
- 26:43Speaker 1: finally be hit with reality that you've been uncovered in
- 26:48Speaker 1: a bribe, and what's so important about the bribe not
- 26:52Speaker 1: just bribery on its own, but it serves as a
- 26:56Speaker 1: required underlying felony to show rico. And you know Sean
- 27:03Speaker 1: Combs knows that, and it's just pouring from the witness stand.
- 27:07Speaker 8: Well, you know, he can beat down Cassie Ventura, but
- 27:10Speaker 8: he can't beat down the prosecution. He cannot beat down
- 27:13Speaker 8: the fence. And this is the telling moment for him.
- 27:16Speaker 8: I wish I had like a monitor to rate his
- 27:21Speaker 8: to measure his perspiration rate, his heart rate, to see
- 27:25Speaker 8: what he's really going through. I bet he's flooded right now.
- 27:28Speaker 8: I bet he's enraged. Like Rob Shooter talked about the
- 27:31Speaker 8: veins bulging out, he is probably enraged. He doesn't feel guilty,
- 27:36Speaker 8: he doesn't feel worried, Nancy. He is mad and he's
- 27:41Speaker 8: not going to be able to get away with this
- 27:44Speaker 8: once he's incarcerated. He's going to have plenty of incidents
- 27:48Speaker 8: when he's called on bad behavior and there's nothing he's
- 27:51Speaker 8: going to be able to do about it. You can't
- 27:53Speaker 8: buy your way out of it once you're incarcerated. And
- 27:56Speaker 8: this interaction about the one hundred thousand dollars, you know,
- 28:01Speaker 8: this is just one iteration of many incidentss where he's
- 28:06Speaker 8: bought people off.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Lauren Colin joining us from on them on hand courthouse.
- 28:10Speaker 1: She's been in the courtroom the entire day. Lauren Colin
- 28:14Speaker 1: tell me about the woman that started screaming, What was
- 28:17Speaker 1: that all about? That was so crazy.
- 28:19Speaker 3: I have to say I've seen her pretty much here
- 28:22Speaker 3: at the courthouse every day. She apparently works for the MTA.
- 28:26Speaker 3: She does seem to have some issues. I'm clearly not
- 28:29Speaker 3: a doctor, but I've seen her cause a fuss outside.
- 28:33Speaker 3: She just is always yelling at the press. And this
- 28:36Speaker 3: morning I was literally three feet away when she walked
- 28:39Speaker 3: into the courtroom, because she is a member of the public,
- 28:42Speaker 3: and she did get here early enough to put her
- 28:44Speaker 3: name on the list, and I think she was actually
- 28:46Speaker 3: the number one bought. So she walked in the courtroom
- 28:49Speaker 3: and this is before the.
- 28:50Speaker 1: Jury walked in.
- 28:51Speaker 3: The judge was discussing some issues with the defense and
- 28:55Speaker 3: the Feds, and she just starts screaming, diddy the you know,
- 28:59Speaker 3: they're laughing at you. They're laughing at you, meaning the press.
- 29:02Speaker 3: And then at one point they're trying there's three marshals
- 29:05Speaker 3: on her. They're trying to usher her out. She's standing still,
- 29:09Speaker 3: and she says to one of the marshals, go ahead
- 29:11Speaker 3: and use your gun. And that's when a bunch of
- 29:13Speaker 3: the press kind of turned around to make sure their
- 29:15Speaker 3: back wasn't you know, to the scene, because it was.
- 29:18Speaker 3: It was pretty alarming. But you had to have seen
- 29:21Speaker 3: Diddy's face. He literally was like, what is even happening
- 29:24Speaker 3: right now?
- 29:25Speaker 6: His jaw was on the ground.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Kimberly Melman a Rose co
- 29:41Speaker 1: joining US executive director of Freedom Light, human trafficking expert
- 29:45Speaker 1: and author of Hidden in Plane Side America, Slaves of
- 29:50Speaker 1: the New Millennium. This incredible book. By the way, doctor Kimberly,
- 29:54Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Doctor Kimberly. An aspect
- 29:57Speaker 1: that I have observed, and I want to see the
- 29:59Speaker 1: Cassie V video again. I'll tell you why sex traffickers
- 30:04Speaker 1: are rapists, especially serial rapists. They believe they're gonna get
- 30:09Speaker 1: away with it, and usually they do. If you take
- 30:14Speaker 1: Combs for example, all the years years he has been
- 30:18Speaker 1: attacking people, according to the alleged victims, drugging them, raping them,
- 30:24Speaker 1: videoing them without their consent, but naked in all sorts
- 30:28Speaker 1: of positions. Here he is in a public hotel Hallway,
- 30:33Speaker 1: doctor Kimberly, And he doesn't care. That's actually fine with him,
- 30:38Speaker 1: to beat her, to stop around in his socks and
- 30:41Speaker 1: his towel, that's okay. The arrogance of these sex traffickers
- 30:47Speaker 1: and sex offenders. They're convinced nobody's ever gonna tell on them.
- 30:52Speaker 1: The security guards aren't gonna hand over the video. No
- 30:56Speaker 1: one would dare cross Diddy. Is it a common character
- 31:02Speaker 1: trait among sex traffickers, doctor Kimberly.
- 31:05Speaker 10: Well, first of all, thank you for having me, Nancy,
- 31:07Speaker 10: and I would say that we certainly see with all
- 31:10Speaker 10: types of sexuality based offenders that can be in Bolden
- 31:13Speaker 10: when they are, their crimes are met with some level
- 31:15Speaker 10: of impunity. And I think that Diddy's celebrity status has
- 31:19Speaker 10: certainly bought him some privileges that the average person who
- 31:22Speaker 10: gauge age engages in criminal activity is not afforded. The
- 31:26Speaker 10: difference here, though, is his pattern of criminal activity. I
- 31:29Speaker 10: think you hit the nail on the head when you
- 31:33Speaker 10: had your opening and you said the statutal limitations for
- 31:36Speaker 10: locally based charges had elapsed, and I think that's right.
- 31:39Speaker 10: I don't think anybody disputes I don't even think that
- 31:42Speaker 10: the friense disputes that their client is a criminal, he
- 31:46Speaker 10: has engaged in criminal activity. I think their argument is
- 31:50Speaker 10: that the statutal limitations has elapsed and that there's an
- 31:54Speaker 10: overreach with the types of charges that he's facing with
- 31:56Speaker 10: regards to human trafficking. From what I can see from
- 31:59Speaker 10: this case, I think there is some atypicality. For example,
- 32:03Speaker 10: we don't see Cassy being sold off to other people.
- 32:06Speaker 10: We don't see the dipos.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Kimberly, she was trafficked to other people according to her,
- 32:15Speaker 1: because sex workers were flown in to have sex with
- 32:19Speaker 1: her on video even when she didn't want That wouldn't
- 32:24Speaker 1: that constitute.
- 32:25Speaker 10: Typically listen is it would be atypical. But I understand
- 32:30Speaker 10: exactly what you're saying here, Nancy, and this is why
- 32:32Speaker 10: this is a precedent setting case. But typically the trafficking
- 32:35Speaker 10: when somebody is sold to another person, the person who's
- 32:38Speaker 10: receiving those sexual services would be the commercial sex consumer
- 32:42Speaker 10: and would be paying the trafficker. That's what would happen
- 32:46Speaker 10: typically in a sex trafficking situation. This is atypical in
- 32:49Speaker 10: the sense of comes was paying sex workers to engage
- 32:55Speaker 10: in sexual activities? With Cassy. Some of those sex workers
- 32:58Speaker 10: testified and saying and stated that she seemed to be
- 33:02Speaker 10: enjoying herself quote unquote. I think that that's all for debate,
- 33:07Speaker 10: and I think that that's part of the adversarial presentation
- 33:11Speaker 10: of this case in front.
- 33:12Speaker 1: Of the jury. Okay, that is a mouthful doctor Bethony
- 33:15Speaker 1: Marshall response.
- 33:16Speaker 8: About him throwing those lavish parties with women who are compromised,
- 33:20Speaker 8: and because of that, he promotes his business to celebrities,
- 33:23Speaker 8: and that part has yet to come out. But he
- 33:26Speaker 8: is benefiting quite a bit from this. He may not
- 33:28Speaker 8: be taking cash, but he is taking business deals, the
- 33:32Speaker 8: sale of his clothing, his perfume, everything. He is reaping
- 33:37Speaker 8: all the benefits of this.
- 33:39Speaker 6: And in that Cassie beat.
- 33:41Speaker 8: Down tape, Nancy a little detail is I think she's
- 33:44Speaker 8: carrying an airman's purse. He rushes out, he grabs the
- 33:49Speaker 8: purse as if it's his own, and grabs her drags
- 33:52Speaker 8: her down the hallway. What is the difference between that
- 33:56Speaker 8: and a pimp on the street giving a twelve year
- 33:58Speaker 8: old a very small gift and then withdrawing it when
- 34:02Speaker 8: she doesn't obey him. This is slavery and sex trafficking
- 34:07Speaker 8: one oh one.
- 34:08Speaker 1: It just takes an unusual form bombshell in the trial
- 34:11Speaker 1: of Seawan Combs in court today evidence of a one
- 34:14Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars bribe paid for the Cassie Ventira beat
- 34:19Speaker 1: down video. That wasn't the only witness on the stand,
- 34:22Speaker 1: Sydy Summer Crime Stories investigative reporter. Wasn't there a bookkeeper
- 34:27Speaker 1: for bad Boy Records that took the stand? That's correct.
- 34:30Speaker 4: Derek Ferguson, who was the former eas financial officer for
- 34:36Speaker 4: Sean Diddycomb's businesses, has been on the stand, and he
- 34:39Speaker 4: worked for Diddy for a very long time nineteen ninety
- 34:43Speaker 4: eight to twenty seventeen. So are you giving us a
- 34:47Speaker 4: rundown of how finances worked for that business? Who carried money?
- 34:52Speaker 4: It wasn't uncommon for staff to be handling large amounts
- 34:56Speaker 4: of cash back in the day, laying out exactly how
- 35:01Speaker 4: finances worked for Shawan Combe's businesses, saying that Shawn Colms
- 35:05Speaker 4: occasionally used company cards to charge personal charges and that
- 35:10Speaker 4: staff later went back and reconciled where exactly money needed
- 35:15Speaker 4: to shift from account to account to cover those charges.
- 35:19Speaker 1: Okay, hold on by ba ba ba ba wah, wait, wait, wait, Sydney.
- 35:21Speaker 1: As usual, you're giving me a ton of evidence. Let
- 35:24Speaker 1: me sift through because you know I like to go
- 35:25Speaker 1: through each line individually. Okay, Nimo Ramani. Did you hear
- 35:31Speaker 1: what Derek Ferguson's testifying to. It's Shawn Conne's former CFO
- 35:35Speaker 1: on the stand. You know he knows where the bodies
- 35:37Speaker 1: are buried. Did you hear what she just said? That
- 35:41Speaker 1: they would make these expenditures, say, let's say a thousand
- 35:44Speaker 1: dollars for baby oil and astro glide or one hundred
- 35:48Speaker 1: grand payoff, and then the accountant would have to figure
- 35:53Speaker 1: out how to shift funds, in other words, cook the
- 35:57Speaker 1: books to make it all sure to be business expenses.
- 36:02Speaker 1: That's what that is.
- 36:03Speaker 5: That's absolutely what it is, Nancy. And this is consistent
- 36:05Speaker 5: with all the assistants what they've been testifying to. That
- 36:08Speaker 5: they had a lot of cash, and then when it
- 36:10Speaker 5: was something unlawful or something for the freak offs, they
- 36:13Speaker 5: would use that cash. And if it was something legitimate
- 36:16Speaker 5: like a meal, they would charge the credit card right
- 36:19Speaker 5: the business account. And look, even when comb's paid off,
- 36:23Speaker 5: Eddie Garcia, he told him, don't make any large purchases.
- 36:27Speaker 5: He knew that this was illegal, just like he paid
- 36:31Speaker 5: cash to the sex workers.
- 36:32Speaker 6: He paid cash for the drugs.
- 36:34Speaker 5: There's something wrong with cash, but usually nancy people use cash,
- 36:39Speaker 5: large amounts of it when they're engaged in illegal activity.
- 36:42Speaker 5: That's exactly what we're seeing.
- 36:43Speaker 1: Here, isn't it true? Name of Romani that banks across
- 36:46Speaker 1: the country. When you make a ten thousand dollars withdrawal,
- 36:50Speaker 1: I mean or deposit, the bank says, wa, whoa, whoa,
- 36:54Speaker 1: Wait a minute, ten grand, ten grand and one dollar.
- 36:59Speaker 1: We've got to account for that. Are you a doper?
- 37:02Speaker 1: Because that's common that amount of cash used. Something's way wrong.
- 37:07Speaker 1: I have to dig around just to get out of
- 37:09Speaker 1: a parking deck. You know, I'm looking under the carpet
- 37:13Speaker 1: in the minivan who carries one hundred grand? Sean Combs,
- 37:19Speaker 1: Now listen to this, Ramiani Ferguson. You know the meek,
- 37:24Speaker 1: mild mannered account on the Standard Scribes properties comes on
- 37:26Speaker 1: in Miami, New York. The Hampton's executives are given American
- 37:30Speaker 1: Express cards for expenses, but the business relies on cash.
- 37:36Speaker 1: Many of the quote performers sex traffic workers requested cash
- 37:43Speaker 1: as payment. The bodyguards carried cash. That's what we're hearing
- 37:49Speaker 1: from Ferguson. See where I'm going with this. Hold On,
- 37:52Speaker 1: let me go to Robert Crispin. Crispin, when you raid
- 37:56Speaker 1: a doper, don't you get like any balls as I
- 38:01Speaker 1: call them, and you test that money. It's covered in
- 38:03Speaker 1: dope particles, money, cash, What does it mean?
- 38:08Speaker 6: Stacks.
- 38:09Speaker 1: It's illegal.
- 38:09Speaker 9: It's derived from the illegal proceeds of criminal activity. And
- 38:15Speaker 9: it's everywhere in a search warm, it's all over. It's
- 38:19Speaker 9: in the rooms, they're in safe They're in the.
- 38:21Speaker 6: Bad guy's pocket. Yeah, all over the place.
- 38:27Speaker 1: My best friend, my best friend girl is a dope lawyer,
- 38:30Speaker 1: and she carries I don't know, six hundred dollars in
- 38:33Speaker 1: a ball in her sock whatever you know where that
- 38:37Speaker 1: came from. It's dope money. It's her legal fee from dopers. Now,
- 38:42Speaker 1: I mean, when I hear this, doctor Bethany Marshall, I'm
- 38:46Speaker 1: making poking fun at my friend carrying six hundred dollars
- 38:50Speaker 1: rolled up in her sock. It's dope money. My point
- 38:54Speaker 1: is this shows a nefarious nature. Right of course, the
- 38:59Speaker 1: thinking it through. I can't use my credit card, I
- 39:02Speaker 1: can't certainly write a check to what was his name,
- 39:05Speaker 1: the punisher, the sex worker, because that's wrong and I'll
- 39:10Speaker 1: get caught, so I have to pay in cash. It's
- 39:14Speaker 1: an age old method of hiding crime.
- 39:19Speaker 8: You know, Nancy. And not just in this kind of
- 39:21Speaker 8: a criminal enterprise. But remember when Warren Chefs of the
- 39:24Speaker 8: FLDS cult was pulled over with all of his wives.
- 39:27Speaker 8: He had tons of cash and.
- 39:29Speaker 1: He was headed to Las Vegas.
- 39:31Speaker 8: This is so typical of these top heavy male enterprises
- 39:36Speaker 8: where they keep women under their thumb who then abuse
- 39:39Speaker 8: other women. There's always cash at the top.
- 39:43Speaker 1: And Nancy that escalade.
- 39:44Speaker 8: Remember when Kid Cutty's car had a Molotov cocktail thrown
- 39:48Speaker 8: in it. That escalade was registered to bad Boy Records,
- 39:54Speaker 8: meaning he was paying for that escalade from business funds.
- 39:59Speaker 8: He was writing it off as a business expense. He
- 40:02Speaker 8: probably wrote one hundred thousand dollars off as a business expense. Hey,
- 40:05Speaker 8: the hotel where he was staying where he beat Cassie Ventura,
- 40:10Speaker 8: he paid for that was business funds. Are those freakoffs
- 40:14Speaker 8: business expenses? Of course not. That's a lot of shifting
- 40:18Speaker 8: money around that accountant had to do.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Oh what a tangled web we weave. When first we
- 40:25Speaker 1: practiced to deceive. You think the fans can't see through
- 40:28Speaker 1: all that money? Please? You remember in the Wizard of
- 40:32Speaker 1: oz Nima Romani when Dorothy throws the water on the
- 40:37Speaker 1: witch and she's I'm melting. That's what's happening right now?
- 40:43Speaker 1: Did he melting with this money evidence? Because everything else,
- 40:49Speaker 1: just like ray Ja the other day, please says it's
- 40:53Speaker 1: just domestic abuse, one hundred grand bribe, Molotov cocktail. Now
- 40:59Speaker 1: we're if you don't want to believe Ventura and Maya,
- 41:02Speaker 1: about the beatings, what about the arson? What about the bribe? Now,
- 41:07Speaker 1: this is some hard evidence that cannot be shaded with
- 41:12Speaker 1: the umbrella. Oh it's just a spat between a girlfriend
- 41:16Speaker 1: and a boyfriend. No, it's not. He's melting.
- 41:19Speaker 5: Even if the jurors don't believe Cassie venture and they
- 41:23Speaker 5: believed that she was a willing participant in the freak offs,
- 41:25Speaker 5: that they were consensual, the Feds can still get a
- 41:28Speaker 5: conviction on Rico, with arson, with kidnapping, with bribery, with obstruction,
- 41:34Speaker 5: with witness tampering.
- 41:36Speaker 6: There's many many paths to get there.
- 41:39Speaker 5: That's why the Rico charge is so incredibly important. It
- 41:43Speaker 5: allows the FEDS and the Department of Justice to potentially
- 41:46Speaker 5: put Diddy away for life, even if the.
- 41:50Speaker 6: Jurs don't believe the sex trafficking was forced or course.
- 41:53Speaker 1: We remember now an American hero share of Andrew Clark
- 41:57Speaker 1: to Cab County, killed in the line of duty, survived
- 42:01Speaker 1: by grieving wife Jody and four beautiful children Brianna, Brooklyn, Alexavier,
- 42:09Speaker 1: and Chloe. American hero Sheriff Andrew Clark. Nancy Grace signing
- 42:16Speaker 1: off goodbye friend.