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- 0:00When they say that they're thinking about starting a direct
- 0:03care practice, there are few questions that keep coming up
- 0:06again and again. They seem to be universal.
- 0:09So I'm going to talk today about 10 of the most common fears that
- 0:13I hear from physicians when they start thinking about opening a
- 0:17direct private care practice. Welcome to DPC Life, the podcast
- 0:21where independent doctors share real stories, bold ideas and the
- 0:26freedom of doing medicine on. Your own terms.
- 0:29I'm your host, Doctor Anne Gonzalez, and together we'll
- 0:33explore the winds, the struggles and everything in between.
- 0:38Let's dive in. Usually it's me and someone else
- 0:41talking and this time it's just me.
- 0:44So the last time I did a bonus episode, I was talking about our
- 0:47DPC Women Connect event and one thing that I've been working on
- 0:51since then is the independent practice path.
- 0:53I started this program because because when I talk with people
- 0:57who are thinking about starting a direct care practice, a lot of
- 1:00times they think about it and then they continue thinking
- 1:03about it. They don't really get any
- 1:05forward progress and sometimes it stays for a while, like once
- 1:09or even years. It took me personally about 8
- 1:14years from the time I heard about DVC to actually when we
- 1:17opened. Now, when I first heard about
- 1:19DPC, it was very new. We had hardly any resources at
- 1:23the time, I think, to help people with getting them
- 1:26started. And at the time when I heard
- 1:28about DPC, I just kind of thought, oh, that's wonderful, I
- 1:30would love to do that, but it's not for me because I didn't
- 1:33think I could do it #1 and and so I just kind of went in the
- 1:37back of my head. So what I'm trying to do is help
- 1:40people not take years before they open their DPC practice
- 1:45because right now we know that the healthcare system is really
- 1:48in a difficult situation. It's quite difficult,
- 1:52particularly for primary care. Obviously the doctors are having
- 1:56to see too many people in too little time.
- 1:59That's not what they thought they would be doing when they
- 2:01went into medical school. So I want to help people get out
- 2:04of fee for service medicine so that they can open their own
- 2:06direct primary care practice and practice medicine the way they
- 2:09thought they would when they went into medical school.
- 2:12The kind of practice when, you know, they wrote their personal
- 2:15statement about why they wanted to do medicine and how they
- 2:18wanted to. What I've heard from people when
- 2:20they say they're thinking about starting a direct care practice,
- 2:24there are a few questions that keep coming up again and again.
- 2:27They seem to be universal. So I'm going to talk today about
- 2:3110 of the most common fears that I hear from physicians when they
- 2:35start thinking about opening a direct private care practice.
- 2:39And I'm just going to read some of these off because I can't
- 2:41remember all of them. I can't remember all of them off
- 2:43the top of my head. So forgive me for reading some
- 2:46off my paper here. So number one, will patients
- 2:50actually follow me? And this is this is something
- 2:53that pretty much everyone thinks are they going to follow me
- 2:56after I leave my employed practice?
- 2:58And generally, what seems to be pretty consistent is if you're
- 3:02coming from an employed practice and opening ADPC practice,
- 3:06anywhere from about 5 to 10% of your previous patients follow
- 3:11you. You're a good doctor, you're a
- 3:13good physician, and people will follow you when they see the
- 3:18value and they are attached to you.
- 3:20So you know you're not going to get 100%, obviously, but you're
- 3:24not going to get no one. I know that's a double negative,
- 3:28which means it's positive. You're going to get some people,
- 3:31you know, some people are a little less and some people are
- 3:33more. But that's what it kind of
- 3:35generally seems to come out to. About 5 to 10% of your previous
- 3:38patients will follow you into your new direct private care
- 3:41practice #2 How do I explain the membership fee?
- 3:45So this is kind of a hard point for physicians just because
- 3:49we've never had to explain the fees for our services before
- 3:54because it's always been billed through the office and someone
- 3:56else is taking care of that and we don't have to deal with the
- 3:59money because it makes us uncomfortable saying this is how
- 4:02much this costs. I mean, I didn't know how much
- 4:07like a vitamin D lab was. And when people would come in
- 4:10and say it was $200, for example, I was shocked.
- 4:14I had no idea that that's how much it was.
- 4:17So that's, that's only one thing that you have to explain.
- 4:20Now, how do you explain the membership fee?
- 4:22Well, that's completely different because how do you
- 4:26explain it to people who already have insurance and explain that
- 4:28they're going to have to pay more?
- 4:30That's something that you learn and you get used to it, but
- 4:33definitely it's something that you'll have to practice.
- 4:36The third question is when should I start telling people
- 4:39that I'm leaving? This is all.
- 4:41It's very dependent on your situation, on your contract.
- 4:45Do you have a non solicit clause?
- 4:47And and so it depends on your contract.
- 4:49If you don't have a non solicit clause, if you can, I would
- 4:53start telling them as soon as possible so that they can Start
- 4:56learning about DPC and getting the idea into their heads so
- 5:01that if they do decide they want to follow you, they understand
- 5:03what they're getting into. So it really it depends.
- 5:07So if you have a non compete slash, non solicit, that makes
- 5:10it a little harder, but there are ways to kind of not
- 5:12necessarily get around it, but sort of get around it.
- 5:17The next common question is what if I leave my job too early and
- 5:21I don't have the patience yet to support me or my family
- 5:26financially? Obviously you'll have to look at
- 5:29your finances prior to opening your practice and take a good
- 5:33hard look and be very realistic about how much you know, how
- 5:37long kind of how much runway do you have before you need to earn
- 5:41a certain amount. And some people have side gigs
- 5:44while they're opening their practice, which can be good or
- 5:46bad. Obviously it's good to keep you
- 5:49flush, but also it will take away time from your from growing
- 5:53your new practice. So pros and cons to that.
- 5:56You have to figure out how much you're going to need to make and
- 6:01and I work backwards to try and figure out how much are you
- 6:03going to charge people for their monthly membership.
- 6:06Another question is what if I wait too long before talking?
- 6:11You know, talking to people about DPCI do think you you
- 6:15can't start too early if you're allowed to talk to your patients
- 6:19about it if you don't have a non solicit clause.
- 6:22Also, if you even if you do have a non solicit clause, you know,
- 6:26you can start talking about direct primary care.
- 6:29It doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to go into direct
- 6:31primary care, but if you want to, and if there isn't anything
- 6:35against in your contract saying that you can't post on social
- 6:38media about certain topics, then there's no reason you can't
- 6:42start talking about direct primary care.
- 6:44I would see that as kind of a signal to people that you might
- 6:47be opening a direct primary care practice.
- 6:49Another question, what do I actually do first when I'm
- 6:53opening a practice? So there's a lot of checklists
- 6:57and information online about what do you do?
- 7:00Like do you get your PLLC first you need to get a bank account,
- 7:04your register with your state, the medical board in your state.
- 7:08So So what do you do first? Another thing that stumps people
- 7:12is how do I talk about direct primary care without sounding
- 7:15awkward or unsure of things? Again, this is another kind of
- 7:21go along with one of the earlier fears about how do I talk to
- 7:25people about it? How do I explain the membership
- 7:28fee? A lot of physicians say that
- 7:30they feel the meet and greets are uncomfortable and it may be
- 7:33just because they're still uncomfortable with explaining
- 7:36direct primary care. And the only way to get over
- 7:38that or to get past that is to just practice it and work
- 7:44through your elevator pitch and repeat it over and over and over
- 7:47to the point where it just kind of rolls off your tongue and
- 7:50like it's nothing for you to say it.
- 7:52So you just have to get to that point where you're just
- 7:55comfortable with saying it. You figured out exactly kind of
- 7:58your your normal spiel, what you want to say and just get used to
- 8:02it and say it enough times that it just comes out of your mouth
- 8:07without you having to think too much about it.
- 8:09That way by that point it's going to sound natural and not
- 8:12forced or awkward. Another question or another fear
- 8:16that doctors have before opening their direct primary care
- 8:19practice is how do I start building interest before I open?
- 8:24This one is extremely important obviously because everyone wants
- 8:28to have people either interested or on a wait list of some sort
- 8:32before they open and you also want to have people enrolled or
- 8:36pre enrolled already if possible before you open your doors.
- 8:40That would give you a whole lot of cushion to have some people
- 8:44that would feel much safer, more stable, obviously, if you had
- 8:47patients enrolled before you even open your doors.
- 8:50Some people think that you start marketing after you open, but
- 8:53really the key is marketing months ahead of when you open.
- 8:57So starting to talk to your friends, your family, people
- 9:01like employers in your town, the Chamber of Commerce, other
- 9:05groups like B and I. That's when you want to start
- 9:08talking to them even before you open, because you want to
- 9:11educate as many people as possible about direct primary
- 9:14care so that when you're ready to open, they are educated and
- 9:18ready to sign up. Another fear that physicians
- 9:21have is how do I know if I'm ready to leave employed
- 9:24medicine? That's a really hard one.
- 9:27Again, a very individualized decision.
- 9:30You have to look at a lot of things.
- 9:33Obviously, it has to work out for you and your partner and
- 9:37your family if you're caring for other family members them too.
- 9:41So is it going to work out for your family?
- 9:44What kind of stressors does that put on your family, on your
- 9:47relationship? If you are going to be building
- 9:50this practice, what stressors does it put on your finances?
- 9:54Again, you have to look at your finances and be very honest.
- 9:57If you don't want to go into this without having a clearview
- 10:00of potentially what will happen to your income and how much do
- 10:06you need to make, it's a little bit different.
- 10:09If you loan your business because of the way taxes work,
- 10:12you don't have to earn exactly the number that you used to make
- 10:16in your employed practice as your salary.
- 10:18So the numbers are a little bit different.
- 10:21So, but still you'll want to talk to someone, an accountant
- 10:25before you open. But beyond your family
- 10:29situation, your finances, you'll know if you're ready, depending
- 10:35also on your whole, your mindset, how you're feeling at
- 10:39work. Are you feeling burned out?
- 10:41Do you feel like it's sustainable?
- 10:43How would you feel if you stayed in your current situation for
- 10:47six more months, another one to two years?
- 10:49What do you think you'd feel like in two years if you stayed
- 10:52where you are? Would you feel the same, just
- 10:55even more burned out? Would you feel happy about it?
- 10:58You know, so these are things that you have to think about
- 11:01when you're trying to figure out when you're ready to leave
- 11:03employed medicine. And lastly, a lot of physicians,
- 11:07when they're thinking about opening a direct primary care
- 11:10practice will wonder if they're the only person who's thinking
- 11:13about it. A lot of times they feel alone.
- 11:16They feel like it's really risky and unusual for people to do
- 11:20this. Now granted, there are not that
- 11:22many direct primary care practices in the country, but
- 11:25every month there are more and more people opening direct
- 11:29primary care practices. So you are not alone.
- 11:32You are not the only one. There is a whole community of
- 11:35people who've already opened their direct primary care
- 11:37practices and are in the process of opening their practices.
- 11:40So this is not unusual. And as you can see by the number
- 11:46of practices that have opened and survived and thrived, that
- 11:50this isn't necessarily risky. What's risky is opening without
- 11:53a plan, but it is possible to open a practice and do very well
- 12:00to open a practice and be successful and thrive.
- 12:04So it's not unusual for that to happen.
- 12:07So you may notice that none of these questions are about how
- 12:10you care for patients within a direct prorate care practice.
- 12:14They are more about communication, about timing and
- 12:18about confidence in opening. When a physician doesn't have a
- 12:22clear path forward, then the default is to just stay in that
- 12:27considering and thinking stage, researching stage.
- 12:30For a long time, what I've seen is physicians that move forward
- 12:34and open practices. They've done a few things that
- 12:36have helped them move forward with momentum.
- 12:40They don't just launch and then start looking for patients.
- 12:45Instead, their momentum begins building earlier, sometimes
- 12:49months earlier. The moment that a physician
- 12:52starts talking about their future practice, some important
- 12:56things can start happening right then.
- 12:58That leads us to the framework that I've come up with called
- 13:03the practice momentum flywheel. So a flywheel is really a cycle
- 13:09that just it builds momentum over time and in an independent
- 13:14practice, the cycle looks something like this.
- 13:16We need to reach people, then your message needs to resonate
- 13:19with them. Next you respond to their
- 13:22questions and over time people join your practice.
- 13:26They stay and then refer others. When they refer others that is
- 13:31also part of your reach. And so it is a cycle.
- 13:34Reach, resonate, respond, and retain, and gradually you gain
- 13:40momentum. Many doctors already know that
- 13:42they want something different. They realize that what they're
- 13:45doing is not sustainable. What they don't need is more
- 13:49information. What they need is a clear path
- 13:51forward. And that's why I created the
- 13:54Independent Practice Path. It's a small physician cohort
- 13:58designed to help doctors move from thinking about direct care
- 14:02to actually preparing to open over 8 weeks.
- 14:06We focus on the decisions that actually move things forward,
- 14:11clarifying your practice model, learning how to talk about
- 14:15direct primary care, beginning to build interest, and putting
- 14:19the basic systems in place that support your practice.
- 14:23If you've been thinking about starting an independent practice
- 14:27but feel unsure about the next step, you are not alone.
- 14:31Many physicians are asking the same exact questions.
- 14:35If you'd like to explore whether this path might be right for
- 14:40you, you can start with the DPC Readiness Reflection on the
- 14:45Harmony OPS website. It's a short exercise designed
- 14:48to help you think through where you are in the process.
- 14:52You can also find the link in the caption, and if you have
- 14:55questions, just e-mail me. You can find my e-mail on the
- 14:59Readiness Reflection page as well.
- 15:02The next cohort of the Independent Practice path is
- 15:04starting on March 24th and you'll be able to register until
- 15:09March 21st. There's only a limited time to
- 15:12sign up because people stay in the thinking about DPC stage for
- 15:18so long and by having a hard start date that is going to
- 15:24shift you into an action mode. I don't want people to be
- 15:28thinking about this too long and then forgetting about it or
- 15:32pushing it off. So if you're interested in
- 15:35joining us, the cohort will start in a couple of weeks and I
- 15:40can't wait to meet you and help you get started on your DPC
- 15:45journey. Thank you for listening to the
- 15:47DPC Life Podcast. And as always, remember that no
- 15:51matter where you are in your DPC journey, your DPC family's got
- 15:55your back. See you next week on the next
- 15:58episode. Thank you for listening to DPC
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- 16:13the journey, your DPC family has your back.
- 16:17Until next time, keep building a practice and a life that truly
- 16:22fits you.