Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Peter King | Former Congressman Says Cooperation with I.C.E. Means a Safer New York State
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The greatest congressman new york has ever had.
- 0:04Speaker 2: That's the hell kick of an intro for peter king is.
- 0:06Speaker 1: That a good that's a good intro but it's true.
- 0:09Speaker 2: He can't complain no more complaints.
- 0:11Speaker 1: He was uh you know uh democrats love him republicans
- 0:15Speaker 1: love him i mean he's loved by.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Everybody and he was briefly my congressman there's a bunch
- 0:20Speaker 2: of redistricting for a while he was my congressman when
- 0:23Speaker 2: i was i still live in nassau county uh peter
- 0:25Speaker 2: king joining us Congressman, we're talking about this. We're still reverberating,
- 0:30Speaker 2: not only through this newsroom and this studio, but just
- 0:33Speaker 2: all throughout New York, the fact that the governor of
- 0:38Speaker 2: this state and the state has passed this law that
- 0:40Speaker 2: local police departments cannot cooperate with ICE, even when they're
- 0:45Speaker 2: going after child molesters, murderers, etc.
- 0:49Speaker 3: etc.
- 0:50Speaker 2: It is an insane law, and Bruce Blakeman had to
- 0:54Speaker 2: comply with it, and he's of course, joining in a
- 0:57Speaker 2: lawsuit to try to get it overturned. But Peter King,
- 1:00Speaker 2: this is what I want to pose to you, because
- 1:02Speaker 2: this is the whole narrative about ICE is false. I
- 1:06Speaker 2: did the math last week, Congressman. ICE is engaging, encountering
- 1:12Speaker 2: more than 1,700 people a day, arresting, detaining, putting their
- 1:16Speaker 2: hands on them. The fact that we've had so few,
- 1:19Speaker 2: and it is few based on those numbers, incidents of
- 1:22Speaker 2: killings or other types of violence is an incredible record.
- 1:26Speaker 2: The NYPD would kill, no pun intended, for a record
- 1:29Speaker 2: like that. ICE has been maligned and smeared. I think
- 1:32Speaker 2: it's the most humane law enforcement group ever in American history.
- 1:37Speaker 2: What say you?
- 1:39Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, I agree with you. And I think what
- 1:41Speaker 3: Kathy Hochul has done, it's absolutely disastrous. Bruce Voigtman in
- 1:47Speaker 3: Nassau County, entered into an agreement between the Nassau County
- 1:50Speaker 3: Police and ICE where they would cooperate. And also he
- 1:53Speaker 3: actually had a number of Nassau police officers deputized to
- 1:58Speaker 3: work with ICE, actually work with ICE. As a result
- 2:00Speaker 3: of that, we've had absolutely zero incidents in Nassau County.
- 2:04Speaker 3: No acts of violence, nothing. There's total cooperation between the two.
- 2:08Speaker 3: And there's been no raids into schools or anything like that.
- 2:12Speaker 3: It's worked, and it's important, and I think it's over 2,000
- 2:17Speaker 3: illegal criminals were actually taken from Nassau County and deported
- 2:23Speaker 3: because of the cooperation between the Nassau police and ICE.
- 2:27Speaker 3: You mentioned those acts of violence. The fact is, I'm
- 2:30Speaker 3: not making excuses for anything went wrong, but the fact is,
- 2:33Speaker 3: take the two cases in Minneapolis. In that instance, the governor,
- 2:36Speaker 3: the mayor, they were not cooperating with ICE. They were
- 2:38Speaker 3: actually encouraging people to rebel, to resist, to carry on.
- 2:43Speaker 3: And you had the incident where an ICE agent as
- 2:47Speaker 3: a woman, when she was told to stop, somebody takes
- 2:50Speaker 3: her off in a car aimed in his direction. Whether
- 2:52Speaker 3: she was going to hit him or not, he didn't know.
- 2:54Speaker 3: The fact is that was a human reaction and also,
- 2:58Speaker 3: I think, a legitimate law enforcement reaction for him to fire. Now,
- 3:02Speaker 3: whether or not that was 100% correct, I don't know,
- 3:04Speaker 3: but it was instigated by the violence on the street
- 3:07Speaker 3: and by that person coming at the ICE agents. Similarly
- 3:11Speaker 3: with the person who was shot when he was wrestling
- 3:12Speaker 3: with the ICE officers on the ground. He came there
- 3:15Speaker 3: to disrupt it. He was carrying a weapon. And in
- 3:17Speaker 3: that confusion, he was shot. I don't think it was
- 3:20Speaker 3: going on a while before he was shot. I don't
- 3:23Speaker 3: think anyone thinks that they intentionally shot him. As he
- 3:26Speaker 3: was going around, a gun went off, and they saw
- 3:29Speaker 3: his gun, and they shot in defense. Now, maybe that
- 3:32Speaker 3: was not 100% right, but it would not have happened otherwise.
- 3:34Speaker 3: if there had been cooperation between the police officers and ICE,
- 3:38Speaker 3: and I don't think anyone thinks that those ICE agents
- 3:40Speaker 3: were in there intending to kill anyone that day. So
- 3:43Speaker 3: I agree with you. Overall, they've done a great job.
- 3:45Speaker 3: One thing that I agree with John Cassidy, and actually
- 3:48Speaker 3: a lot of things I agree with John on, but
- 3:49Speaker 3: on this one, I think it would be more effective
- 3:51Speaker 3: if ICE focused more just on going after criminals. And
- 3:55Speaker 3: because we've had people, we have 15, 20 years, the
- 3:58Speaker 3: part of the community, their children, the part of the community.
- 4:01Speaker 3: And basically, to me, I don't see any gain by
- 4:03Speaker 3: going after them now. But are we? Are we?
- 4:06Speaker 2: Because I see no evidence that ICE is in any
- 4:09Speaker 2: way really targeting people like you just mentioned. I don't
- 4:12Speaker 2: think that's every time we find out, you know, we
- 4:15Speaker 2: get the initial report, Congressman King, that, oh, they took
- 4:19Speaker 2: a 15 guy who's been working as a busboy. And
- 4:21Speaker 2: then it turns out that he had, you know, had
- 4:23Speaker 2: six wives. A child molestation thing. I mean, I'm seeing
- 4:27Speaker 2: no evidence that we're targeting these more innocent illegals. None.
- 4:31Speaker 3: No, actually, over the last several months, a majority of
- 4:35Speaker 3: those taken have not had criminal records. That's reality. Now,
- 4:38Speaker 3: what happens sometimes is you go into a place and
- 4:41Speaker 3: there's four illegals and there's three illegals and they all
- 4:44Speaker 3: get picked up. I understand that. But I think that
- 4:46Speaker 3: they should try to fine-tune them. That's all I'm saying.
- 4:48Speaker 3: I think, like, I, for instance, know of cases in
- 4:50Speaker 3: Astro County where there are people right now who feel
- 4:55Speaker 3: that they, in fact, they've been warned, they've been told
- 4:57Speaker 3: they're trying to cooperate. But they've been here for years,
- 4:59Speaker 3: and they have established families and roots. So, again, I'm
- 5:02Speaker 3: not saying that's the majority, but they're having more of
- 5:04Speaker 3: those cases recently. But overall, ICE has done their job.
- 5:08Speaker 3: They've done their job. And in those instances where there
- 5:11Speaker 3: have been violence, if there have been, cooperation between local
- 5:15Speaker 3: authorities and police with ICE that would not have happened.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Now, there was a big— Congressman King, there was a big
- 5:21Speaker 1: report over the weekend in the Hamptons. You know, I
- 5:24Speaker 1: live in Suffolk County on weekends. And that some— you know, Cohen, Michael?
- 5:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:34Speaker 1: That club in Riverhead, was it? Not Riverhead. In Sag Harbor?
- 5:40Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a club in the Sag Harbor area where
- 5:44Speaker 4: they— They had to close. Yeah, they had to close
- 5:46Speaker 4: simply because— Most of the help has now been either
- 5:52Speaker 4: they self-deported or they've been taken.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Well, actually, in reality, we have to adjust to the
- 5:58Speaker 3: fact that there are a number of businesses that have
- 6:01Speaker 3: relied on immigrants and are not here legally. And now,
- 6:05Speaker 3: to play it safe, they are self-deporting and the businesses
- 6:08Speaker 3: are being cut short. Now, we have to adjust to that.
- 6:10Speaker 3: And the one way to do it is have more
- 6:12Speaker 3: legal immigration, have more guest worker visas, that type of thing.
- 6:17Speaker 3: But we had a situation where you had, what, 10, 15,
- 6:20Speaker 3: 20 million, whatever it was, illegals coming in. The situation
- 6:23Speaker 3: got out of control. And right now we're, like, reconstituting.
- 6:26Speaker 3: And I think there's going to be some growing pains
- 6:28Speaker 3: with that. There's going to be some innocent people caught
- 6:30Speaker 3: up in it. But overall, it's the important thing to
- 6:32Speaker 3: do to get it done. And, again, I would just
- 6:35Speaker 3: try to fine-tune it more. As far as to me,
- 6:38Speaker 3: the best way, if you want to ensure that there's
- 6:41Speaker 3: no real violence, is to have the local police cooperating
- 6:44Speaker 3: with ICE, which is what Bruce Blakeman had done in
- 6:46Speaker 3: Nassau County. That was to everyone's benefit. Hochul was caved
- 6:49Speaker 3: in to the Manjami progressives, to the left wing of
- 6:52Speaker 3: her party.
- 6:53Speaker 4: Well, Congressman, why then is Blakeman not out there every
- 6:57Speaker 4: single second of the day going ahead and promoting that
- 7:01Speaker 4: again and again and again and again? I feel almost
- 7:04Speaker 4: sometimes as if Jake Novak is doing it more than
- 7:07Speaker 4: anybody else. Or I should really say John.
- 7:12Speaker 3: It's a big state, and there's a lot of issues.
- 7:15Speaker 3: And Bruce does talk about it quite a bit. He
- 7:17Speaker 3: talks about it. But also, as he's traveling around the state,
- 7:19Speaker 3: he's in upstate New York. There's various issues there. Parts
- 7:22Speaker 3: of upstate New York are actually impoverished, and he's trying
- 7:26Speaker 3: to address those issues. He's trying to address the various
- 7:29Speaker 3: law enforcement issues around the state. He, again, has so
- 7:32Speaker 3: many different constituencies to reach out to. Now, he's not
- 7:35Speaker 3: changing his message, but he has to, again, address the
- 7:38Speaker 3: issues that concern those people. But again, I'd say in
- 7:41Speaker 3: almost every speech, I mean, the media may not be
- 7:43Speaker 3: highlighting it, but almost every speech I've given, I've heard
- 7:46Speaker 3: him give, he does talk about ICE. He talks about
- 7:49Speaker 3: the cooperation. He talks about the reasons why Nassau County
- 7:53Speaker 3: has the lowest crime rate of any county in the
- 7:54Speaker 3: entire United States. So, again, there's a lot of issues
- 7:57Speaker 3: to talk about, but he does talk about ICE. He's
- 7:59Speaker 3: never hid from it. He had a major news conference
- 8:01Speaker 3: on it just the other day with Commissioner Ryder and
- 8:05Speaker 3: the county legislature. So, again, it's a big state. There's
- 8:09Speaker 3: tough issues, but he's never hid. Never shied away from
- 8:12Speaker 3: the ICE issue.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Peter King, let's talk a little bit about Kathy Hochul.
- 8:15Speaker 2: You mentioned it, how she's selling out. But, you know,
- 8:18Speaker 2: it's amazing how they just won't put the safety of U.S. citizens,
- 8:23Speaker 2: and in this case, New York citizens, first. And I
- 8:27Speaker 2: have to think it's more than just pressure she's getting.
- 8:30Speaker 2: She's already... She's already the Democrat nominee. She's already the governor.
- 8:34Speaker 2: She doesn't have to worry about that aspect of it.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Why does she need to cave so much to Zoran
- 8:40Speaker 2: Mamdani and the left? Is there something else going on here?
- 8:43Speaker 2: Is she yet another Democrat getting funding either directly or
- 8:47Speaker 2: indirectly from our enemies who want to undermine the country?
- 8:51Speaker 2: Because to me, her poll numbers would go up if
- 8:54Speaker 2: she said the same thing you just said. Let's just
- 8:56Speaker 2: tweak things a little bit. Instead, I think she's putting
- 8:59Speaker 2: herself in peril. Why do they do these things?
- 9:03Speaker 3: I tell you, I'm very surprised. John may recall back
- 9:07Speaker 3: when she was becoming governor, when it was obvious Andrew
- 9:10Speaker 3: Cuomo was going to have to step down, I was
- 9:12Speaker 3: telling people I thought Kathy Hochul would actually do a
- 9:14Speaker 3: good job. She was on my committee in Washington when
- 9:18Speaker 3: I was chairman of the Homeland Security Committee. She had
- 9:20Speaker 3: won a special election upstate, and she served a year
- 9:24Speaker 3: and a half on the committee before she lost, but
- 9:26Speaker 3: she was there for a year and a half. And
- 9:29Speaker 3: she was actually a very moderate Democrat. She was not
- 9:32Speaker 3: one of the crazies. I had some real crazies on
- 9:34Speaker 3: the committee. She was not allied with them at all.
- 9:36Speaker 3: She was reasonable to talk to. Her husband was a
- 9:40Speaker 3: big law enforcement prosecutor upstate. And then she became governor.
- 9:44Speaker 3: And it was like overnight she went first to the
- 9:45Speaker 3: left of Cuomo. It's hard to explain. I have no
- 9:49Speaker 3: evidence of any mysterious money coming in. Whether it is
- 9:52Speaker 3: or is not, but I think she's living in a
- 9:54Speaker 3: bubble of people around her, all these left people. And
- 9:57Speaker 3: I agree with you. To me, if you had a reasonable.
- 10:00Speaker 3: intelligent Democrat, a Joe Lieberman, an Ed Koch, people like that,
- 10:05Speaker 3: who could step outside their party when they had to,
- 10:07Speaker 3: she would win support. But I just figured she's in
- 10:09Speaker 3: this bubble. She's somehow, as a lot of somebody, trapped
- 10:12Speaker 3: into it. But I can't, maybe it is a psychiatrist
- 10:16Speaker 3: who explained it.
- 10:18Speaker 4: Congressman, I think the only thing she cares about is
- 10:20Speaker 4: re-election and winning the re-election. She's willing to do whatever
- 10:25Speaker 4: it's going to take or what she thinks it's going
- 10:28Speaker 4: to take in order to effectuate that win.
- 10:31Speaker 3: You know, Jake was saying, though, if she steps out
- 10:33Speaker 3: of that for a moment, if we realize that would
- 10:35Speaker 3: be easy for her to get reelected, if she didn't
- 10:37Speaker 3: take some of these crazy left-wing positions. She has the
- 10:40Speaker 3: nomination now. She has the party. She will have enough
- 10:43Speaker 3: funding to get through this campaign. So she has what
- 10:46Speaker 3: she needs. If she took more middle-of-the-road stands and more
- 10:49Speaker 3: moderate stands, if she stood more with the police, if
- 10:51Speaker 3: she stood.
- 10:52Speaker 1: More with the police.
- 10:52Speaker 4: Maybe Jake Novak should actually give her a call and
- 10:54Speaker 4: give her some advice.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Well, Peter King, that's why I say my alter ego
- 10:58Speaker 2: is Jake Novak. Unelect, unemployable... political consultant, because I give
- 11:03Speaker 2: good advice. Apparently, to be a successful political consultant in America,
- 11:07Speaker 2: you have to give bad advice. But Peter King, we
- 11:09Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. You didn't need a political
- 11:12Speaker 2: consultant to give you good advice. You knew on your own.
- 11:15Speaker 2: But thank you so much.
- 11:17Speaker 3: I had John McLaughlin, by the way, the best in
- 11:19Speaker 3: the country.
- 11:20Speaker 1: John is great, except he didn't tell me that I
- 11:23Speaker 1: was losing Manhattan when I ran for mayor.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Oh, well.
- 11:27Speaker 1: He told Rob Ryan, but he didn't tell me.
- 11:29Speaker 2: Well, that's it. And his punishment is he has to
- 11:32Speaker 2: show up on this channel every time we ask him
- 11:34Speaker 2: now because that's the way it works. Peter King, thank
- 11:37Speaker 2: you so much for joining us.
- 11:38Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Peter.
- 11:39Speaker 2: And thank you for your service to the country and
- 11:41Speaker 2: to my former congressional district. I got redistricted out of
- 11:44Speaker 2: your jurisdiction for a while there, but it was great
- 11:46Speaker 2: while it lasted.
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