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ONLY BOMBS! 27: G Pow · Only Bombs! Comedy Podcast

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G -Pow. How you doing, man? Good, Trey. How you
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doing, man? Oh, good. Good. Just chilling, man.
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I'm happy to have you on the show. I'm happy
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to be here. Thank you. Hell yeah, man. I saw
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you at The Creek do your set and shit. And in
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doing that, I found out that you were on Kill
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Tony and you did really well on Kill Tony. And
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I was like, oh, look at that, man. I'm like,
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I think this is the first time I haven't seen
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somebody on Kill Tony before asking them. You
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know what I mean? Yeah. But, uh, I guess kick
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it all off, man. I wanted to get like, you know,
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get people to know who you are and stuff like
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that. And, uh, so origin of G pow. Yeah. I mean,
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it's, uh, it's my name. It's actually my name.
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Um, well, it's technically G po, but, uh, just
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phonetically speaking, how it's spelled, I figured
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this is kind of a cool stage name too. You know,
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pow punch lines. I feel like it's a, like a good,
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like comedic, like sounding. I think so, yeah.
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And it fits you, because it's your name. I guess,
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yeah. There's no fabrication, only slight, but.
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Right, it's exactly who you are. Yeah, exactly.
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Where are you from originally? I was born and
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raised in New Jersey, North New Jersey. Oh, wow.
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And yeah, I moved down to Austin about eight
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months ago at this point. Oh, hell yeah, dude.
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So you haven't been here very long at all. Nope.
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What do you think? Get that question a lot. Yeah,
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I bet I'm I'm still figuring it out because I'm
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pretty much like Comedy work home. That's my
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gist, you know, but uh, I do especially when
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my folks come into town I try to venture out
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a little bit and like we kind of explore Austin
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together and I like it especially it has the
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The country feel like it's not so city but with
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the city here Yeah compared to New York City
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where it's all just like traffic and noise and
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just craziness all the time. Okay. Yeah. So you're
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really familiar with that major metropolitan
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thing. Totally. Totally. Where you're from, are
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you from a big city like that or? No. Where I
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was in New Jersey, it's suburbs for sure. I grew
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up in a city essentially but - I was so young
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then I really didn't process it. And then my
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family moved to the suburbs when I was like five.
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Um, so that's kind of like what I was used to
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is more the, uh, like the combination of like
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accessibility of the city, but at the same time,
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it's like quiet cul -de -sacs and things like
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that. So, um, I think naturally like that being
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part of my life, I've always been more into like
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the rural environment, like what you can't have
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type deal. Um, so. There was always in New Jersey
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is a funny place. Have you been there before?
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No, no No, it's an interesting place because
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everyone thinks like Tony soprano, you know,
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they think everybody's like it's all mmm like
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that, but it's really There's rural areas. There's
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suburbs. There's cities and it's like unique
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in that sense. You can go anywhere and 40 minutes,
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you know, okay. Yeah, because when you said New
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Jersey, I was like, man, why aren't you talking
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like that? Exactly aren't you all supposed to
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talk like that? Yeah, whatever the fuck that
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even is Capacola That's how they pronounce it
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like the Italian Americans. I mean, I grew up
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around a bunch from no doubt, but They have interesting
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like moots instead of mozzarella or like they
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have their own little Muts. Yeah, fun takes on
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words. Muts. Or a gunol instead of a cannoli,
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like it's kind of... Oh. Yeah. Dang, are you
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like Italian? No. No, you just know all this
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stuff because of New Jersey? It's proximity,
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you know, it's everything. Proximity. Why Austin,
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of all places? Well, it's, you know, I took on
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more of a role with my family. I have a girlfriend,
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I don't know if you saw the KT moment, but I
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do have an older girlfriend, that's actually
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real. And she has her family, and we wanted to
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kind of integrate us with them a little bit better.
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And the thing about New Jersey, what I was paying
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for a two -bedroom apartment up there, I'm paying
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for a four -bedroom house down here. So that
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was a huge part of it, is being able to get part
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of her family down there, like down here, and
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then also like me still being able to pursue
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comedy. It was like... It was like the, it was
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a match made in heaven, seriously. That's really
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awesome. Yeah. So did you start comedy in Jersey?
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Yes, I did. I was in New Jersey for about 10
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months doing comedy. Um, you know, and a lot
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of it was like, it was a coping mechanism initially
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for me being a bigger guy. You know, it's like,
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you always have to defend yourself and you kind
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of like, I was never a physically like fight
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someone kind of guy. So I always try to use my
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words. And in all honesty, like in school, I
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was not good at like the roasts and stuff like
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that. And like, But it developed over time because
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I would watch like Chappelle. I'd watch all these
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comedy shows. I would watch like Roast Battle.
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And you know, you kind of, I kind of developed
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like an enjoy, like I enjoyed doing it at that
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point. And yeah, I never thought about doing
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stand -up per se until I'm trying to think. It
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was like a New Year's resolution of mine to put
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more into myself. Cause I felt like I wasn't
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like, I was always taking care of like, oh, I
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got to work or oh, I got to do this for somebody
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else, you know? Mm -hmm. So I decided like once
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a week, I would like give myself time to like
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do something I enjoyed. And it came across as
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like, I went to comedy shows for 52 weeks straight.
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Wow. Every week. And my girlfriend's like, why
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don't you like try doing it? And I'm like, I
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don't know if I'm funny enough. She's like, you're
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funny enough. So yeah, she's, yeah, she's been
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like my biggest supporter, my biggest fan, like.
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Yeah, so that's kind of like how my comedy like
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manifested is like I always thought of it as
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like fun to watch and Then when I started doing
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it, it's like wow therapy so much cheaper now,
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you know Oh, wow. Yes getting on stage and just
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like talking about things that I find funny and
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like seeing how other people react to it and
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It's like relatable for people that I wouldn't
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even think would be relatable, you know. Mmm.
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Yeah. Yeah, man That's kind of that's kind of
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the reason why I get it and got into it, but
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I didn't use the stage as a way to say the personal
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things that were going on, I kind of started
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off by just saying just jokes. You know what
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I mean? Did you hit the stage, since you said
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that it was kind of a therapeutic thing, did
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you hit that just being completely open or did
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you start off just saying whatever jokes for
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now? Yeah, I mean, my comedy's definitely evolved
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over time because it did start. Like almost entirely
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as observational, like what I thought of other
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people. Yeah. You know, and being able to say
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that and people would like give me the gratification
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of like, yeah, I think that's right. You know?
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And, um, I mean, it was good for a time and then
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I like learned joke structure and I found that,
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um, through joke structure and like looking at
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my own life and things that were going on. I
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found that some of the biggest things that people
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liked is like things they could relate to. Yeah.
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So I would talk about my family and I would talk
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about like work and I would talk about different
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things, but make it in a way that's like, it's
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relatable, but it's also unique at the same time.
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Yeah. Like the age gap is the biggest thing I
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always go to is like the age gap relationship.
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Everyone's like, you know, I wonder what it would
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be like to date an older woman. And then I talk
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about it and like explain it's, it's great in
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some ways and other ways it's interesting. You
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know, it's like the fun balance of it all. Yeah.
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And I think. because I'm a super authentic guy.
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I love just being myself. I think it comes off
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a lot better on stage. Yeah. People tend to like
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it more. Yeah, because they get a real sense
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of who you are as a person. That's all they really
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want. I learned that too when I started actually
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opening up a little bit more. I was like, people
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seem to laugh more. Excuse me. People tend to
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laugh more when they, when they understand and
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relate to what you're talking about. So when
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you started getting those laughs and things,
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especially like on KT, you got like a fuck ton
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of laughs. That must have been an exhilarating
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thing for you when you're putting your stuff
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out there. Did you feel discouraged in the beginning
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without any laughter or were you always just
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nailing it? Yeah, definitely wasn't nailing it
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off. Yeah, a lot of it was Like I would write
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during the week and I'd be like, oh this is gonna
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murder on the open mic and you go there and it
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just Crickets that is the worst Yeah, people
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are like, what are you even talking about, you
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know and right? New Jersey's an interesting scene
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too because it's not it's not like Austin where
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like you can you have Accessibility to comedy
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like you have to actually go out and find comedy
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and there's like maybe one open mic each night
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but then to be put on a show, if you haven't
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been doing it four or five years, best of luck.
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Yeah. It's really tough like that. Yeah. Wow.
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Wow. Because there's hubs in New Jersey. One
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of them is, excuse me, Jersey City, which is
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a city. It's not like a suburb at all, but there's
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a core group of guys there that - all run shows
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and all kind of like help each other out. And
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yeah, they put people on here and there, but
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like they have their core group of people that
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they put on their shows. And then, um, like Hoboken,
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there's like all different areas just have their
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one little like not click, but like people that
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are comfortable putting on shows that they know
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are going to go do well and like draw people.
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So, um, I feel like down here, it's like, you
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can hit five mics in a night. Yes. You can hit
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multiple shows in a night and, uh, like. it's
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really beneficial for honing your craft down
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here, I feel. Mm -hmm. Yeah, I actually just
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put out a clip about that very thing. It was
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a conversation I had with Monterey, and she works
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at the Mothership, and, you know, I was telling
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her about, like, how I've spoken to comics who,
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they came out here, and, like, the first stage
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that they ever went on was the Mothership. And
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that just like, that just blew my damn mind.
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It blew my mind too, yeah. Yeah, to think that
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it's that accessible and everything. So it must
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have been like, you know, you must have been
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like freaking out when you got here and you realized
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you can just go anywhere. Yeah, I mean, just
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the pure volume of it, I think was the one thing
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that like really gripped me because yeah, there
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was accessibility to the mothership mics, but
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like, well, I'm using that one in particular
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because I wanted to make sure that I was, like,
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on point, like, entirely with my set before I
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did the mothership mic. I still haven't been
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called on the mothership mic yet after signing
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up for a while. And, like, I think Kill Tony
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is one of those things where I feel like you
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can kind of work it a little bit more because
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you have, like, the interview portion to kind
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of lean on too. So I was always signing up for
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Kill Tony, but the mothership mic, it's been,
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like... Probably I'd say a month, a month and
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a half that I just started signing up for it.
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Um, because like, I don't mind going to another,
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another mic and not doing well or like trying
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stuff out, but like, I really wanted to bring
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my best. Like when I, when I do the mothership
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mic. So yeah, yeah, absolutely. I, I used to
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go and try to get on that one. And then I, uh,
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I started working on Sundays, basically. I work
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every day, essentially. What's your approach
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to joke writing? Do you just see something and
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you're like, oh, wait, that's funny and then
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just write it down? Or do you just sit with a
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pen and a pad and just say, all right, I got
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some ideas, I just want to hash them out? It's
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a combination of things because I feel like instances
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will Breed more like premises and breed more
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like ideas for me And those all like write down
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I have my notes app in my phone or like I always
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carry a pen and paper on me So like times it'll
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be that but there's also times that I know and
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I have no inspiration I sit down and I like I
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don't want to say force because there's an I
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give connotation to it but like I'll make myself
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go through and go through the writing process
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like I have a I have like a few different like
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styles and certain ways that I write jokes that
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I feel like if I plug and play things in my life
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into it, like things will come out of it. Um,
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so that's why I find it beneficial to like, even
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when you don't want to write and even when you
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feel like you have no inspiration, like sit down
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and stare at a topic. Sure. You know, and sometimes
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like some of my best jokes have come from that
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because you're like, You have to mentally put
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yourself in the zone of the joke and you're like,
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okay, this is the only thing I have right now
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to work with. Okay. We got this that goes on
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with it. We can do that with it, you know, and
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that's why I find different angles or like, I'll
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refer to old jokes, um, or like premises that
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I'm like, make no sense to me. Yeah. And like
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the challenge of having to like integrate it
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into like my onstage persona. Cause that's another
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thing I find that makes like. Makes comedy easier
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for people is like if you have a genuine like
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persona to who you are like almost yeah Like
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what other people see you as I feel like it kind
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of helps you generate jokes naturally through
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that yeah Yeah, do you um do you have somebody
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that you kind of? Took after as far as joke writing
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goes I did you like for example like I really
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liked that kind of sounds like what you're saying
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kind of sounds like Jerry Seinfeld's way of doing
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it yeah, where he just sort of like puts everything
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away, and even his wife, I guess, knows that
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he's going and he's writing jokes, and he says
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that he just sits in front of a blank piece of
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paper essentially. Do you have somebody that
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you were just like, oh, that method might actually
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work for me, or is it something that you developed
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on your own? It's definitely a hybrid. Like,
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okay, I'm going to pull this out. I didn't want
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to, but I will. Bring it, dude. So I have my
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notebook, right? But I literally have just random
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receipts of paper with different random premises
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that when they come to my mind and I'm like,
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let me write it down real quick. This is 100
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% Mark Norman. I was just about to say that.
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I was just about to say, I'm like, dude, I think
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on the Hot Breath podcast, I think Mark Norman
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was saying something. That's how he does it.
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Yeah. And seeing him do that, and I was like,
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that is how the controlled scatter of my brain
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works too. Oh, that's fantastic. You know what
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I mean? And it's like I can go through that any
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time and I'll be like, oh, I can reference to
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this joke or like work on different things. So
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like that's definitely a big part of it. But
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also like as far as style and cadence, I'm like
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a big comedy nerd. So I like always look at the
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things that people are like so unnecessary, but
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I love it anyways, like laughs per minute. I'm
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big on that. So like even like Pat O 'Neill,
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like more recently, his style of joke writing
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really appeased me to where he gets note cards
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and he has like all his premises set up and he'll
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like go on stage and like just one by one them
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and just see what works, see what carries and
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see what people adhere to and then kind of build
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from there. And then, um, like I've always been
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a big fan of David Tell and he just like, he
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could jam six laughs into one joke where one
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person would get one, you know? Yeah, dude. Oh
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my God. Yeah. That, that very thing that you're
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talking about is absolutely fucking insane. Like
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how he could just like make a joke and he's touching
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on like four or five different things at one
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fucking time. It's like with one joke, he can
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get like four different kinds of people. It's
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like. Oh, that was the big inspiration for my
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opening line on kill Tony. Yes. Uh, I look like
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I carved benches and stress testing with my ass.
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Like it's like, it touches on. the blue collar
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look, the weight look, the suspenders, the boots,
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the style that I come out in, you know, and then
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it translates into like, okay, the older woman
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in my life and just like, it touches on so many
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different things and that's all like a tell where
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you can have a setup be a punchline at the same
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time. Yeah. It's just. Dude, yeah, it blows your
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fucking mind. Yeah, because it really is true,
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because that is what I thought when I saw your
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set. I was just like, yeah, there's so many different
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openings here that you can go with, and you explored
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it. It's almost like you could have gone in any
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direction, and anybody would have been like,
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oh, I saw him going there. It was really good,
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so you took a tell from that. Dave, a tell, huh?
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Yeah, and I think... What I like a lot about
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Attel is he's very, uh, he observes himself.
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Yeah. Self observational. And I almost like all
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my jokes start with a form of self observation
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because I feel like, I feel like you invite the
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audience into the laughter with them knowing
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you can joke about yourself too. Yes. It's not
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like a finger pointing this way all the time.
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It's like a little bit of this, you know? Um,
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and I feel like that's been really working for
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me is really like, saying something about myself,
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like, you know, I know I look like I licked nacho
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cheese off WrestleMania 3 VHSs, you know? Like,
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it plays to a weird, like, because I feel like
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I'm very, like, blue -collar Americana, like,
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in my approach with things, because that's, like,
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nostalgia to me growing up, and I love talking
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about that stuff. And I feel like, yeah, it's
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like I'll throw something out there like that,
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and then you can go about, like, wrestling, you
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know, nacho cheese. You can talk about, like,
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being weird, you know, and... Feel like it's
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fun because it's again. It's like the setup in
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the punchline almost simultaneously Yeah, you
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know you get that first laugh in the first like
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two seconds. Yeah. Yeah Oh, man, and what I love
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about it, too Is that it felt like it felt like
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just good old -fashioned jokes, man That sort
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of felt like this felt like good old -fashioned
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jokes like cuz I've been saying it a bunch especially
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at the creek I've been saying it like a bunch
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of people like the whole Talking about like calm
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and talking about like just all that fucking
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low -hanging fruit It's like, dude, there's so
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many comics who, like, they're not writing jokes.
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They're just saying funny shit. And so it was
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really refreshing seeing your stuff. And I was
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like, these are actually good jokes. Yeah. And
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I was like, man, I'm like, that's, and, you know,
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it was just kind of a treat that I also saw that
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you were on Kill Tony. I was like, oh, look at
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that. Well deserved, I think. Thank you. That's
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pretty, that's pretty badass, man. It's a, I
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like working. As weird and cliche as it sounds,
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like I like putting in the work. Yeah. And, you
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know, I can't speak for other comics, but I know
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The easiest route is sometimes the quickest for
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people. I don't adhere by that. I feel like you
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should build longevity. You build a nice foundation
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and then work from building from there because
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then you'll be stable in the moments that like,
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okay, you've already said come, you said a racial
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joke. So what do you do after that? How do you
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do an hour about that subject? It just gets boring
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after a while. But it goes with the authenticity
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thing that you were talking about. When it comes
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from just you, it's like in this material. you
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can go forever because it's just you and your
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life and things like that. And that's what I
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really like, man. You know, I find that some
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of the struggles with my joke writing is that
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I have to tell myself to not overdo it. You know,
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so I kind of like learned the whole, you know,
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I know it's a very popular concept that many
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comics already are kind of learning, but I had
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to learn the whole trim the fat thing. Do you
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have any kind of joke writing like things that
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you learned that you were like, okay, this is
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a really pinnacle lesson for me. I mean, yeah,
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trimming fat, I mean, is a big part of it for
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sure because I feel like it's almost like when
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you write an essay in high school, you write
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the long form and then you kind of work back
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into like what's the essential. You know, it's
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almost like you're purifying the potion type
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deal, as nerdy as that sounds, but... No, no,
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it's true. It is, yeah. And I'm a big proponent
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of, I've been telling a lot of people this lately,
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and I always preface it, it's what works for
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me, is painting, like, a vivid visual in somebody's
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head. You know, and you get them in the scene
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like that. You know, and they're already, like,
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in that bubble encapsulated, and then you can
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work from there. You know? I think that's, it's...
21:13
a good trait. And I think if people haven't worked
21:15
it out, I think it's a good thing to try to work
21:17
out. It's like, not just like, okay, like I was
21:19
waiting on the, the corner for the bus, you know,
21:22
but like, it's like, wow, I smelled hot peanuts
21:24
and had a bird shit on my shoulder waiting for
21:25
the bus. Like you're, people feel more invested
21:28
then, you know, and I think tied with that and
21:31
authenticity, it's, um, it's tough to have people
21:35
like not be interested in it. You have people
21:38
sit back or people like not pay attention. So
21:41
I feel like, um, When I found out that revelation
21:45
like it just really started clicking for me and
21:47
it really started working and like I try to integrate
21:49
that in jokes that don't work and then like kind
21:52
of almost brings them back a little bit so yeah,
21:55
yeah, I found that um like the So you mentioned
22:00
a second ago about like, you know essays and
22:01
like high school and stuff like that. I I found
22:04
that That that is a really great analogy cuz
22:09
I I ended up telling myself something that I
22:12
learned. I want to say like either high school
22:14
or college about like, uh, about that kind of
22:17
proofreading and that kind of like perfecting.
22:20
It basically like used two words instead of 10
22:23
to describe something. Like try to get it to
22:27
where it's like somebody will understand it in
22:28
the least amount of words possible. So that's
22:31
kind of like the way that I sort of do like my
22:35
jokes. I try to, I try to do that. I'm not always
22:37
successful. You know, I'm not, I'm not very quick
22:40
to the punch line. Yeah. That's the quick to
22:42
the punch line. I mean, that's the, uh, I think
22:45
that's the essence of it. You know, it's like,
22:47
yeah, you leave the line out there too long and
22:49
people start thinking about other things. You
22:51
know, that's true. I think it's the touch to
22:53
attention to detail or attention span for people.
22:57
Yeah. You have to guide them. You know, do you,
22:59
uh, Okay, this is going to be kind of a weird
23:01
question, but I've always wondered this. Do you
23:04
find it easy to write jokes and hard to perform,
23:07
or it's hard to write jokes and easy to perform?
23:15
I'm definitely more a writer. I think the writing
23:18
process definitely comes more naturally to me.
23:21
I think a lot of the ones that I've met are very
23:27
introverted. So the performance aspect of it
23:30
is always odd for them, me included. I still
23:34
have to get myself into a mental zone before
23:36
I get on stage. But the writing part of it is
23:39
just like, I can just blurt all day. And then
23:42
just working on that refining process is fun
23:45
because then you find things you didn't think
23:47
about before when you initially wrote it that
23:49
you're like, oh, that would be awesome there.
23:52
Some people do that on stage and they're able
23:54
to do that on stage. I have trouble with doing
23:57
that. I'm definitely a write first, perform second
24:00
kind of guy. Nice. But performance is, yeah,
24:06
it's something I've had to work on, but I feel
24:08
like I've been writing more for the performance
24:10
now, knowing that it's going to be set on stage.
24:14
So that's been definitely a good change that
24:16
I've been getting used to. Yeah. You seem very
24:19
comfortable on stage. Thank you. Whenever I've
24:21
seen you perform, you work. Like whatever, however
24:25
you're doing your thing, it works. Like, you
24:27
know, especially like on your KT, like, cause
24:29
you look just like on there, like you would at
24:32
the creek at an open mic, you know, like I was
24:35
like, man, I was like, that's really, that's
24:37
really cool. You know, me, I'm a spaz like a
24:39
motherfucker, dude. Like one, it just depends
24:41
on my day. Like one night, like if I'm One night,
24:44
I'll be like all over the place. And the next
24:46
night, I'll just be like, no, I'm just gonna
24:47
work on words today. And then I won't move. I'll
24:51
just stand there and just like, all right, cool,
24:53
man. A lot of that came from repetition, because
24:56
like the jokes I said on KT, I've said them probably
25:01
150 times before. Nice. And then doing that,
25:05
it was just like, it's a big Kobe Bryantism.
25:08
You know, Kobe Bryant is like... I have no problem
25:10
taking the final shot at the end of the game
25:12
because I know I've taken that shot thousands
25:14
of times before. Nice, man. And that's been my
25:17
mentality with that is like, um, if something's
25:20
working, drill it until it's like, you don't
25:22
even have to think about it anymore. It just
25:24
comes out. Yeah. You know? And I had a little
25:26
bit of, I had a weird moment where like getting
25:29
towards the cat and I knew the cat was coming.
25:32
Like the meow. Yeah, um, and I said fuck which
25:35
I don't normally like Do in the joke, but it's
25:38
like I had it so timed out in my head i'm like,
25:40
oh man Did I did I speed through that and I like
25:43
it just came out and then I said the final line
25:45
and it worked so Um, I saw that I saw like tony
25:49
like he like almost interrupted you. Mm -hmm
25:51
You know, I think he saw me like try to like
25:54
I kind of he felt that. Yeah, he's good like
25:56
that He's, yeah. Yeah. He could just, he could
25:59
just see things. I'm not going to stroke his
26:00
back or anything, but yeah, he's, uh, yeah. I've
26:04
definitely learned it more after the kill Tony,
26:06
how like really a tune he is with like people's
26:09
comedy. Yeah. And other people in general. Yeah.
26:11
He really is man. Like you can't deny that. Like
26:14
he's actually really good. Like, cause I know
26:15
people are shitting on his like new special lately
26:18
and it's like, yeah, yeah, sure. But like kill
26:20
Tony, like he knows what he's doing. So, but,
26:23
um, do you have like, Do you have anything that
26:25
was like the weirdest reason that you came up
26:28
with a joke? Like, do you have like, just like,
26:31
man, I have got to put this into a bit or something
26:34
like that. That was just like, this is fucking
26:36
weird. And that you either visited or didn't,
26:39
you know, didn't visit. I don't know if that
26:42
makes any sense. I'm the worst fucking interviewer.
26:44
No. Well, you're making me think, which I really
26:46
appreciate that. Sometimes you get people like
26:49
good. It's just but you're actually like it's
26:51
thoughtful, you know, I appreciate that That's
26:53
what I want. I want you to think yeah, I want
26:56
to talk about essays because I like I haven't
27:00
thought about this stuff in a long time because
27:02
uh, yeah, I Think the one that comes to the top
27:07
my head is like I was like pseudo homeless for
27:10
a little bit like Um, I was staying at jobs,
27:13
like I was sleeping at jobs, like my dad and
27:15
I would work, uh, maintenance and we clean this
27:18
office building and we would just like stay there
27:19
until 5 a .m. and then like, go about the rest
27:22
of our day type deal. Um, but like staying in
27:25
hotels, like the weird things that no matter
27:28
what hotel we ended up staying at, there was
27:31
like always a common theme of like, I have to
27:34
use all these amenities all at once. Like, I'm
27:36
paying for them, you know? So, like, I had to
27:39
take cereal with me from the continental breakfast.
27:41
I had to use every towel in the room, all 21
27:43
of them. Like, weird shit, like, you wouldn't
27:47
even put together. I wrote a joke about that
27:50
and I used to run it for a long time. That was
27:53
really fun. And then another one was, like, I'm
27:57
not a political guy at all, but, like, when Trump
27:59
got in, everything is, like, more tuned up, you
28:03
know? And it was... I read a news article that
28:07
said something like, France wanted to take back
28:09
the Statue of Liberty because they felt it wasn't
28:12
an accurate depiction of America anymore. And
28:15
I read that article and, like, a joke just, like,
28:18
came out of me. It's like, really? Like, you're
28:20
gonna go for our symbol of freedom? Like, that's
28:22
what you're gonna go for first? But you're gonna
28:24
leave Louisiana to us? You know? Like, just a
28:27
weird joke like that. Yeah, those are two that
28:30
stick out that I'm just like, I have to write
28:32
a joke about this, you know? I wonder how my
28:33
Louisiana family would feel about that. Well,
28:36
Tom Segura has, like... He hates Louisiana. Yeah.
28:41
My Wi -Fi router at home is labeled The Cajuns.
28:46
And it's based on the Tom Segura joke where he's
28:48
like, we should just build that wall around Louisiana.
28:51
It's so funny. So goofy. Yeah, it is. It is goofy.
28:55
It is. Nobody ever attacks the Cajuns. I mean,
28:58
there's no reason to, but Tom found a reason
29:00
to. When he started like hating on us, I was
29:02
like. Wait, what the fuck do we do? I'm like,
29:06
fucking, all we have is boats and turtles and
29:08
shit. And sea bugs, you know? Yeah, it was like,
29:10
we got fireflies. God damn it. I'm literally
29:13
wearing a Louisiana shirt right now. It's like,
29:15
we have something called a Rougarou, and basically
29:17
it's like a, like a werewolf kind of thing. Oh,
29:20
you had the Jersey Devil. Oh, that's right. You
29:22
do have the Jersey Devil. Yeah, which is, it's
29:26
weird. You name the hockey team after it. The
29:30
New Jersey Devils. No, shit, after Cryptid. Exactly.
29:33
Oh, that's crazy. Why did a Nazi... At the same
29:36
time, cool fucking name. I'm a Rangers fan, ironically,
29:40
but... Rangers, is that... New York Rangers,
29:42
yeah. New York Rangers. Okay, so is that hockey?
29:45
Hockey, yeah. Okay, cool. I don't know anything
29:48
about sports. No? But I'm learning it. Yeah.
29:51
I know the Saints. Okay. Yeah, because it's New
29:54
Orleans. But people like, you know, they'll try
29:56
to talk stass with me and shit, and I'm like...
29:58
Dude, I don't know which balls go with which
30:00
sports. I'm just letting you fucking know. That's
30:02
a fun premise. Yeah. That's fun. I was like...
30:05
I saw him kicking a pigskin, you know? I'm like,
30:07
oh, is this soccer? Like... Yeah, right? Like,
30:10
what the fuck is golf? With the frisbees, is
30:14
that what they do? Yeah, I know they change shape
30:16
and sizes and stuff. Some of them have laces.
30:20
And then you see like a cricket ball and you're
30:21
like, what is a cricket ball, you know? Dude,
30:24
I wouldn't even fucking know. Racket ball. No,
30:26
dude, like whenever I watch sports and they did
30:28
like they do anything with the balls. I'm like
30:31
Where the fuck is the ball? How do you even know
30:34
where the ball is? Yeah, like when they do the
30:36
football thing and they do that like the the
30:38
hike or whatever It's called and yeah, I'm like,
30:41
how do you know where it's at? You can't tell
30:43
me that you know where it's at No, I just wait
30:46
until someone like when people start chasing
30:48
somebody. I'm like, oh, that's where it is I
30:51
don't want to say I'm not in the sports. I think
30:53
I know So I did them when I was younger, but
30:56
I know just enough where I can hold conversation
30:59
with people. But once we get into stats, I'm
31:01
just like, whatever, I don't know. Right, right.
31:04
This is like season two of Gossip Girl, you idiot.
31:08
So do you have a worst bombing story or have
31:13
you ever panicked on stage? I don't think I've
31:18
panicked on stage. I'm a walking cliche, dude.
31:22
Seriously. Hell yeah. I think a lot and I'm like,
31:26
uh, my dad has always like been a thinker too.
31:28
So he's like drilled some of these cliches in
31:30
me, but like, I'm a big, like, if you fail to
31:33
prepare, you're preparing to fail. So I've always
31:36
like gone on stage and knowing my amount of time
31:40
and I've, uh, like kind of gone with the program.
31:45
Um, I mean, there's been points where, of course
31:47
you riff a little or you like. Talk with a crowd
31:49
and you kind of like mentally just omit a joke
31:51
or something that you like, you're like, eh.
31:54
Um, I've definitely done time where it's like,
31:57
I've gotten notice from a book or it's like,
31:59
Oh, you're going to be doing seven minutes. Right.
32:02
And then for some reason it turns into eight
32:05
and then they're like, Hey, can you do 10? And
32:07
then you're doing 10 and you notice you're on
32:09
minute 12 and you're like, okay, well I've done
32:11
my 12 minutes of my 12 minute material. Like
32:14
let me move on to something new. And then it's
32:16
like, you get the light and it's like, I'm in
32:19
the middle of a new joke. Yeah, that was a rough
32:21
one. There's one time in particular. I remember
32:23
that was rough and then I'm not a weed smoker.
32:27
It's not my thing And I did a weed show and that
32:31
was like very eye -opening for me that like,
32:33
okay I can't talk about things that tickle people's
32:36
brain with weed smokers, you know It has to be
32:38
like dumb goof. It doesn't have to be but they're
32:41
like dumb goofy jokes things that you don't really
32:42
have to think about much Oh, dude, that's my
32:45
crowd. Yeah. My first weed show, I had real trouble
32:50
with it. Real trouble because I didn't know what
32:52
I was getting into. But yeah, I don't think I
32:57
bombed. I just didn't get any laughs, which I
32:58
guess that's bombing, right? All in one. Yeah.
33:02
Yeah, I think like I guess if you had to like
33:04
label bombing, I think it would be that like
33:07
like you're doing good, but the crowd just doesn't
33:11
like you. You know, I guess that's kind of like
33:14
the way that I think about it. Like, cause there's
33:16
been times I've been like on point and I'm like,
33:18
yeah, this is good, but they just, they just
33:20
did not like me. Like for just whatever reason,
33:23
you know, it happens all of the time. But that
33:27
happened, that happened at the secret show for
33:28
me. So like after my kill Tony, I got on the
33:32
secret show and I knew I wasn't going to keep
33:36
up with the lineup because the lineup is just
33:39
killers stacked. Headliners top to bottom. Um,
33:44
and I knew I'd go up there and I'm like, I'm
33:46
going to try my best stuff because when in Rome
33:48
and I went up there and initially got some good
33:51
laughs, but I'm, you know, I'm relatively a clean
33:53
comic. You know, I really don't like curse that
33:55
much in my jokes or like talk about like those
33:57
taboo subjects. Yeah. Um, and going up after
34:01
like 14 people who that's what they talked about.
34:05
It's I had a little bit of trouble. Yeah, at
34:08
least yeah, I enjoyed the moment of like being
34:11
able to network with all those guys and Being
34:14
able to be on the same stage of them. I was like
34:16
fanboying a little bit. But um, yeah Yeah, it's
34:20
yeah, I didn't I didn't do as normally as well
34:23
as I normally do. So yeah Yeah, who are some
34:25
of your comedic inspirations? I mean, they're
34:29
always changing but I think as far as like a
34:31
career idea like back to David Tell Um, my, I
34:36
want to be like a club comedian. That's kind
34:38
of my goal is like, I don't want to do the Lincoln
34:42
arena. I don't want to do Madison Square Garden.
34:45
I don't want to like, I don't want to get big
34:47
like that. I want to be able to support my family
34:49
and continue to just put out funny, funny, funny,
34:52
funny, and be able to work on that all the time.
34:54
Yeah. And, uh, I feel like in a club comic role,
34:57
like that's kind of what. But appeal more to
35:00
me, you know, so like David tells a big inspiration
35:03
with that You know the way Nate Bargatze doesn't
35:07
talk about the crazy tattoo subjects I mean,
35:10
yeah ironically the other way and he does arenas
35:12
but like in the way that he keeps his subject
35:15
matter authentic Tom pop is another one keeps
35:18
his subject matter authentic and he doesn't like
35:21
Do what the easy joke is or the easy laugh? Yeah,
35:24
he talks about his family. He talks about his
35:26
life experience and I find that really admirable.
35:30
I definitely idolize those guys. There's a lot
35:35
of people in the Austin scene that just work
35:37
so diligently at their craft. That's also super
35:41
inspirational seeing people who work at it, getting
35:44
up and getting better and getting good. That's
35:47
inspirational to me too. Yeah. I know what you
35:50
mean. I've seen that happen with a few open micers
35:54
where they just get up there and at first you
35:58
don't really know or they're not very memorable
36:00
because they're just like everybody else, but
36:02
then all of a sudden they're like ahead of the
36:05
curve. Yeah. And it's like, what are you doing
36:07
differently? But good job, you know, good on
36:09
you and stuff like that. So I don't know, man,
36:12
like I love, I love seeing that kind of evolution
36:14
in this art, you know, I think it's like one
36:17
of my favorite things is just, it's just watching
36:20
people, like this is very much watching people
36:23
get better, you know, and watching people get
36:25
worse. True. I think that usually comes when
36:29
people try to adhere to what they think the back
36:34
of the room would like to hear. You do enough
36:36
open mics, you start trying to appeal to comics
36:39
rather than appear to, you're going to be in
36:41
front of business professionals, you're going
36:43
to be in front of mothers and fathers, people
36:45
with kids with special needs, people who are
36:48
trans. You've got to relate to all these people
36:50
at once where people. I think the easy joke is
36:53
always to shit on other people and they try to
36:55
appeal to the comic and others like I Call it.
36:58
Yeah trying to get a laugh from the back of the
37:00
room Yeah, you always want like comics to laugh
37:03
and then it's like well Your audience isn't gonna
37:07
be filled with comics forever. Yeah, especially
37:10
on shows Do you have a trope that you just absolutely
37:15
despise in joke -telling? Like a trope like what
37:19
do you mean by? Like, so I guess we kind of touched
37:21
base on it earlier, where, like, it was just
37:23
people just talking about, like, you know, calm
37:26
and, you know, all that shit where they just
37:28
kind of, just that's the only thing that they
37:30
will touch base on. You know, do you have, like,
37:33
kind of, uh, like, you don't like one -liners
37:36
or, you know, you're like, I don't like these
37:38
stories with only tags and no punchlines. Like.
37:42
I feel like if people work at whatever they're
37:44
doing enough, like I can get behind it for sure.
37:47
I think they're. are like things that some people
37:50
do that I don't find good for comedy, I guess.
37:54
Like a big one is like pulling the curtain back
37:55
and being like, well, that joke worked great
37:58
at the last show. And it's like, you gotta keep
38:01
the audience in the mode like, okay, we're not
38:03
comedians up here. Oh, like when they say that
38:06
out loud. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, well,
38:09
you have to get the people in that it's not a
38:11
comedy show. You want them to feel like, okay,
38:14
it's just somebody like talking about a life
38:15
experience, you know? So that's one thing that
38:18
I always have a weird touch with, or like when
38:21
people look for the audience to gratify them
38:24
and, oh my God, I almost wrote a bit about this,
38:27
like when people say, you know what I'm saying?
38:29
Like when they go on stage and they like point
38:30
to somebody in the audience, they're like, you
38:32
know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Yeah.
38:34
You know what I'm saying? It's like, oh, you're
38:35
supposed to get them to think that, you know?
38:37
Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about,
38:40
man. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking
38:41
about. Just little things like that. Man, you
38:43
know, it's so funny about that is actually that
38:46
very thing is a big reason why, like, me and
38:49
my brother, like, we came up with this podcast
38:51
in the first place. Because, like, they had this
38:53
guy, I don't even think he's a comedian anymore,
38:56
but he used to be an open micer, and this is
38:58
back in, like, late 23, I think. But he was,
39:03
he got up there. and he was so discouraged by
39:08
the lack of laughter. He got pissed basically
39:13
that nobody was laughing and then he marched
39:16
off and then I get up there and I also didn't
39:19
get any laughter either. But yeah, man, it was
39:23
just like my brother and I, we just cracking
39:26
up just for some reason and this dude just got
39:29
so pissed and I was just thinking to myself,
39:32
I was like, I wonder what his story is. I wonder
39:35
what his deal is. Essentially, that's where the
39:40
idea of only bombs came from. Watching people
39:43
crumble, but also being like, why? What's going
39:48
on? That kind of thing. I feel like people don't
39:51
take bombing the way they should. It's an opportunity
39:55
to see where. Your disconnect is and that now
40:00
we can always chalk it up to the audience. That's
40:02
the easy thing to do but like if you're trying
40:06
to be truly funny you should try to appeal to
40:09
as many people as you can or find your true tribe,
40:12
you know, I understand that part of it too, but
40:15
Like you got to take it as a learning experience
40:19
and being able to be like, okay, like this is
40:21
where I fell short this is the part of the joke
40:23
where people fell off. How can I improve that
40:25
part? You got to be a student of the game. Yeah,
40:29
exactly. Dude, that's really my mentality owner
40:32
because it's the same kind of thing too. When
40:36
I get up there, I'm like, the audience has one
40:38
job. Their job is just to laugh. It's like, but
40:43
you need to. Give them something to laugh at.
40:46
That's your job. So it's not their fault if they
40:49
don't think you're funny. The way that I've dealt
40:55
with bombing was just like, this is just not
40:58
my crowd or maybe I need to revisit some of these
41:03
jokes or something like that. Have you ever had
41:05
a crisis with this whole thing and where you
41:09
felt like you were going to quit or you wanted
41:11
to quit? I mean, I'm still, I'm only 18 months
41:15
in for all intents and purposes. Um, so there's
41:18
never been a point where I've been like, I want
41:20
to quit because of comedy. I mean, there's always
41:22
things that happen outside of comedy. That's
41:24
kind of been the only time that I'm like, you
41:26
know, like maybe I should get a higher paying
41:28
job. So I don't feel like work is crazy hours
41:30
or like silly things like that. But, um, it's
41:33
just been like super beneficial to me. And I've
41:36
met more like really just cool, different people
41:40
doing comedy. And yeah, that's why I feel like
41:45
I'm in it for the long run, is because I really
41:47
enjoy the process of like, okay, you meet different
41:50
people, you hear different styles of comedy,
41:52
and I can have a completely different comedic
41:55
style than you do, but we both can do well. And
42:00
why I like it so much is I genuinely feel if
42:05
you put in the work, you get better. Part of
42:08
the work is you gotta be honest with yourself.
42:11
And I feel like some comics don't have that.
42:13
And that's like, OK, you're missing out on part
42:15
of the work. You know, like recording myself.
42:18
I hate recording myself, but I do it because
42:20
I know the future self is going to be paying
42:23
off from me being uncomfortable now. Yeah. You
42:26
know? Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking
42:27
about. See what I did there? You know what I'm
42:29
saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what
42:30
I'm saying, dude? Did my own trope. You know
42:34
what I'm saying, dude? Yeah, you start doing
42:36
crowd work on me. So where are you from? Whoa,
42:40
Trey, where are you from? Which is basically
42:41
what I'm doing for you. Do you have a lesson?
42:47
Let me rephrase. What is your biggest lesson
42:50
thus far that you learned in comedy? Give me
42:56
a fanker. I think just tying into the last part
43:02
of it, it's... that you can have a different
43:05
style than someone else and you both can still
43:07
be successful in comedy. Um, I think that's a
43:11
big lesson. And then I've always been a worker.
43:13
Like that's always been a thing for me. I've
43:14
done it since I was like, like 13. And, uh, that's
43:19
another thing is like what you put in won't necessarily
43:21
be what you get out of it, but like the more
43:24
you put in, the higher your probability, you're
43:26
going to get better with it. Um, So, like, any
43:30
new comic or any comic who's going through a
43:32
struggle, it's like, you gotta, you keep putting
43:36
in the work, you keep looking at your jokes,
43:37
you keep recording it, see what works, see what
43:39
doesn't. You know, like, I bark for shows. I
43:43
feel like that's a good thing that people should
43:45
be doing too. As much as people think they may
43:48
be higher than it, it benefits you because I
43:51
feel like you are more invested in the show automatically.
43:54
Oh, yeah. You know? Because, like, you don't
43:56
want to perform to an empty room, you know? Yeah.
43:59
Oh, goodness. You know, everybody, I say like
44:03
a lot. They could do it subconsciously now because
44:07
I talked about it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You opened
44:10
up the floodgate, you know what I mean? Seriously.
44:12
You know what I'm saying? Dude, I love barking,
44:15
man. I really do because if I go out and I bark
44:19
and I'm able to get like most of the crowd in,
44:22
well, if I go up on stage, they know who I am.
44:24
Because they're already invested in you too.
44:26
They're already invested in me. You know, and
44:27
then the other thing is I consider barking like
44:29
a warmup. You know, just like just saying jokes,
44:34
just coming up with things. Just, you know, just
44:36
bringing some improv, just trying to like, you
44:39
know, just make, make just funny stories, make
44:41
funny jokes. It's literally like what I do with
44:43
everybody at The Creek. I'm just like, you know,
44:46
I'll just try to come up with just something,
44:48
some kind of a joke. You know, and it's like
44:51
the goal is to just get up on stage and just
44:53
do you know, just do your best and everything.
44:57
But did you have any idea that your Kill Tony
45:00
was gonna go as well as it did? Like, did you
45:02
think to yourself, like, all right, these jokes
45:04
are solid, I think it'll be all right? Or were
45:06
you like, oh, fuck, dude. Like, what was your
45:11
perspective on that? I did a lot of prep into
45:18
the Kill Tony. So getting up all the time, that
45:24
was one thing that I knew would improve my comedy,
45:26
but I'm like, okay, it doesn't always translate
45:28
in Kill Tony. A lot of great comedians I've seen
45:31
go on that I've seen do amazing on shows don't
45:35
do well in Kill Tony. So I did a lot of analyzing.
45:39
I watch a lot of Kill Tony and I watch a lot
45:41
of things that people will maybe look past. So
45:47
I worked on developing a framework of joke. Mm
45:51
-hmm that would do well on kiltoni because I
45:55
knew if I was gonna keep signing up and I wanted
45:56
to do well and I wanted to Advance into like
45:59
further things in kiltoni and like get more opportunities
46:02
I needed to find a formula that works because
46:05
a minute is Not everyone's bag and me included
46:09
right, you know, I'm not a minute joke writer
46:11
but like my kiltoni said I did was a combination
46:14
of Three of the biggest pops from three of my
46:17
biggest jokes put together in a one And because
46:20
I genuinely like try to write in a through lane,
46:22
I try to write about one subject top to bottom.
46:25
Um, and I have. Like there are all my three jokes
46:29
were about control and myself control. And because
46:33
I do that, I was able to like, just put them
46:35
all together into one joke and it works seamlessly.
46:38
Um, so I noticed that for me, the framework I
46:43
take would kill Tony. You want to pop between.
46:46
Five and seven seconds right off the bat. You
46:48
need to grab people. You know, it's almost like
46:51
the, uh, when people talk about like, uh, clips
46:53
on YouTube and clips on and shorts and reels,
46:56
you gotta have something in that first, like
46:59
few seconds. If you don't grab people, they're
47:01
going to scroll past it. So it's the same thing
47:04
with kill Tony. I feel like the minute and kill
47:05
Tony translates so much to how reels are because
47:09
that's how people's brain thinks now. So you
47:11
gotta have something initially that really grabs
47:13
them. You get to have an act out to show like
47:16
physicality that you're like, like physically
47:18
invested in the bit. Um, you have to have like,
47:21
that's where the visuals come into play. You
47:23
want to incorporate people into it. And then
47:25
you got to have a button to wrap it all together.
47:28
And I found that like, like, so I don't normally
47:32
write like that, but like for my kill Tony minutes,
47:35
I try to follow that framework. And, um, you
47:37
know, the first one was very successful. Um,
47:41
And also the self -deprecation side of it, too.
47:43
You're inviting people in to, like, genuinely
47:45
laugh at stuff. Mm -hmm. So... Because, like,
47:50
okay, so the bit I did on Kill Tony, the, uh...
47:53
Um... Like, those three bits are way longer.
47:57
If I did the full version of those bits, it would
47:59
equate out to about six minutes of material.
48:02
Yeah. Yeah. But I condensed it all together and
48:05
put it on Kill Tony, and it was a minute, you
48:08
know? So it's... It's not that I'm writing jokes
48:11
differently. It's just I'm like taking my better
48:14
jokes and putting them together almost Yeah,
48:16
you know things that I've like tested and know
48:18
that work a lot of people would be like I have
48:20
a great premise let me go and kill Tony with
48:22
it and it's like Your probability is a lot lower
48:26
than it's something you've tried out already.
48:28
Yeah, so you just you approach it from a very
48:30
analytical Viewpoint I guess right. Yeah, and
48:34
I try to consider it like like Instagram reels
48:36
or any of that. It's like, okay, what is the
48:38
formula? What works? Because there's, I find
48:41
there's a very, it's not always exactly the formula
48:45
that works, but probability is pretty high with
48:48
that formula. Um, you know, like Orhan had a
48:51
different approach when he got his golden ticket,
48:53
he addressed something previously that happened
48:56
in the room that did really well because it was
48:58
like already on people's minds. And then he went
49:01
and did his jokes and then he was great in the
49:02
interview. So like, People do great on Kill Tony
49:05
for different reasons, but I've noticed, like,
49:08
even people who don't get golden tickets who
49:09
do really well, like, um, you know, Rinaldo Mercado?
49:13
Oh, yeah. He had an awesome Kill Tony minute.
49:16
He's one of my favorite comics down here by far.
49:18
Me too, man. And Michael Ridley. There's like
49:20
a few of them. And I'm just like, you guys are...
49:22
I need to ask him to get on here. Because they're
49:25
good. They're awesome, both of them. Man, I love
49:27
both of them. They're great. So, Ronaldo had
49:29
like a killer minute that like I analyzed down
49:31
to a T. Shout out, Ronaldo. Oh, yeah. Shout out,
49:34
Ronaldo. Love you, buddy. Yeah. His one about
49:37
like suicide. Hey, you ever think about killing
49:39
yourself? You know, like just a silly start off
49:42
the bat and then like how we elaborated further
49:44
on that. Like I analyzed that minute. I've a
49:47
few hours just looking at it, watching it over
49:49
and writing it down. Like just seeing why things
49:52
work, you know, and because it's, what works
49:54
on Kill Tony isn't always what works on stage
49:57
and vice versa. Right. So I was like, okay, what
49:59
is the formula that works on Kill Tony? And that's
50:02
kind of what I've refined it down to is those
50:04
four things. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's badass.
50:07
I mean, at least you have a thought. Sometimes
50:09
you see people go up there and they didn't think
50:11
anything of it. Like they just went up there
50:13
just to do whatever, but you could tell the big
50:15
difference. You could tell the difference in
50:17
people who prepare versus people who don't. Why
50:20
did you sign up for Killtoning to begin with?
50:22
What was the catalyst for that? I'm pretty confident
50:29
in my ability as a comedian. I know I'm always
50:32
going to be learning and getting better, but
50:33
I feel like when it comes down to it, I can make
50:36
people laugh. And I felt like I saw what it did
50:40
for other people and how people got out there
50:44
more. And I knew I had the ability, but I didn't
50:46
have the ability to get out there like that.
50:49
Yeah. And that's what I saw it as is like, okay,
50:51
if I work hard enough and I like try to put things
50:54
together that are good, like funny comedy out
50:57
there, like I knew it would pay off in the long
50:59
run. And, uh, just the, the ability to be able
51:03
to showcase yourself and get concerted feedback.
51:06
Like I couldn't have, like, I couldn't have asked
51:08
for a better panel, like on my episode. I know
51:11
they're so good. Yeah. Yeah. They were both so
51:15
super thoughtful in their, in their, uh, feedback
51:17
and That was another thing that was alluring
51:21
to me is being able to get feedback from people
51:25
who are doing it and out there and in positions
51:28
where I would love to be and seeing what one
51:32
step further in that direction I could advance.
51:37
They both had really great feedback. Tom saying
51:41
like further elaborate on one subject, you know,
51:43
and talking about the, uh, like the clothing
51:46
and stuff like that, like not having labels.
51:47
And then Cheryl talking, yeah. And I, trust me,
51:51
I wrote a lot about like my clothes, not having
51:53
labels after that. Um, and then Cheryl talking
51:57
about like the rule of three, which is always
51:59
something I've had in my head, but trying to
52:01
consolidate it into a minute. It's like, I, I
52:03
didn't feel like it would be beneficial for me
52:04
to tap three times on the same subject where
52:07
I can get my point across with one, you know?
52:10
So I got to stop doing that. I got to stop beating
52:15
myself up for saying it though. It's okay. I
52:18
won't judge too hard. Thank you. But yeah, the
52:22
feedback, that's also a big part of it. I think
52:26
the people who put in the work and the comics
52:28
who are out there doing comedy consistently,
52:31
I think Tony really can pick up on people who
52:34
work at it and they really didn't roast me much.
52:38
They were more asking about me and giving me
52:41
advice, which I think was gratifying in a different
52:45
way because I'm like, they genuinely see me in
52:48
this. I felt that too. I think David Lucas kind
52:52
of did the same thing on the fishing podcast
52:53
is he was talking about CPAs and stuff like that.
52:56
I'm like, you're in half in, I'm not thinking
52:58
about any of this. It felt good because they're
53:03
like. Okay, I can see him going far in this.
53:06
Yeah, I can see it too, man, because you have
53:10
this good working frame of mind, like working.
53:16
I can tell that you want to work towards things.
53:19
I can tell that you put the work into your jokes,
53:21
you know, and it's evident because your jokes
53:24
are jokes, like they're actually jokes. Yeah,
53:27
thank you. Yeah, it's not just like, you're not
53:29
up there just like... saying shit and I always
53:33
think of it as, I equate it as like somebody
53:36
just taking a bunch of words that they wrote
53:38
down and they think is funny and they throw it
53:40
against the wall and just sees what hits. And
53:43
it's like, that's kind of what I see all the
53:46
time. People take the shock approach. Yeah. And
53:49
it's just words. It's not for me, but maybe some
53:53
people it works, but that's the short -sighted
53:56
look at it. Because what happens when you say
53:58
everything you can about these three subjects
54:01
and you're moving into hack territory, you know,
54:03
which is like a big thing. You want to be unique,
54:06
you know? You want to be unique, yeah. And people
54:08
want, I feel like people want to see you be unique.
54:12
Yeah. I feel like that's what people want to
54:15
see, you know? Usually that gets the biggest
54:18
laughs, you know? I just saw Shane Gillis recently
54:23
and he killed and literally all he did was just
54:26
talk about like. Some shit that happened to him.
54:30
Just like his special. He slaughtered, man. It
54:35
was fucking insane. It's really refreshing seeing
54:38
you working on actual jokes. Thank you. What
54:42
does your future look like? What are you wanting
54:45
to do in comedy? I know you said you don't want
54:48
to be an arena comic. You want to be a club comic.
54:51
I know that, but do you have a vision for yourself?
54:56
I try to break it down differently. I try to
55:00
do a one to three year and then a three to five
55:02
year and then forever after that. Ultimately,
55:04
I want to do this for the rest of time, as long
55:07
as I can. As long as I can get on stage and be
55:10
able to do this, that's my goal. There are other
55:15
little things that I have. I want to move to
55:17
Montana, but I want to integrate comedy, so I'd
55:19
love to open up a signature comedy club in Montana
55:23
because I feel like there's Maybe one in Bozeman,
55:26
but other than that, um, I feel like there's
55:29
such a untapped, like, well, number one, the
55:33
pandemic did a lot of weird things. It moved
55:35
a lot of California, California people to California.
55:39
California. I was like, were you just going to
55:42
walk away from that? Yeah, there's a great tag
55:45
there. I'm like, you can't just walk away from
55:48
that. You said California. A lot of porn stars
55:51
from California. Sorry, I'm such a degenerate.
55:55
Anyway, go on. It's so funny though, because
55:57
I'm like, oh boy, I have to go back to that.
55:59
As soon as you said it, I was like, huh? Yes.
56:03
Come to the dark side. There's a lot of California
56:07
transplants and they're, California is obviously
56:10
the store and even Save Francisco has a big.
56:16
Comedy backing and I feel like in Montana. There's
56:20
so many like people that I couldn't imagine crave
56:23
that comedy and Even more so than that I feel
56:27
like it's a perfect integration of like be wanting
56:30
to go there and be in a rural area and have more
56:32
space But also being able to bring funny and
56:34
do what I want to do for the rest of my life
56:37
there So that's also like kind of a goal of mine
56:42
Nice. You know, I do want to do some touring,
56:44
but not like every weekend. You know, I'd love
56:47
to do maybe like 15 to 20 weekends of a year.
56:51
Um, like just going to different cities and just
56:54
like being able to experience other parts of
56:57
the country. Cause I've only been, I've only
56:58
lived in New Jersey and here. And, um, this is
57:03
the furthest West I've been in my life. And I
57:06
know there's so much different. Country out that
57:09
way and even north of here. It's so much different
57:12
country And just like hearing different people
57:15
and different experiences. I think will help
57:18
Me be more relatable. Yeah and find out like
57:21
what's genuinely funny to everybody Because I
57:24
can talk about p. Terry's but I can only talk
57:26
about it here in Texas I can't go back up to
57:28
New Jersey and talk about p. Terry's the way
57:30
I do around like down here now on p. Terry's
57:34
I love it, man. It's so good. It really is. It's
57:38
like, oh, God, I'm trying to like, you know,
57:40
you better, I'm like, but fucking P. Terry. Yeah.
57:43
And then, so that's like my, you know, my goal,
57:46
but not my, yeah, somewhat long -term, but like,
57:49
I think more in the short term is, I genuinely,
57:52
I'd love to work in the mothership. I'd love
57:54
to be able to get a door guy position or like
57:56
get a. like a role and being able to perform
57:59
there regularly. Then also like Kill Tony, like
58:03
if I can see where that horse rides. As much
58:08
as I enjoy writing, I think I would love the
58:11
challenge to have to put a stage ready minute
58:15
out every week. I think that's such a fun challenge
58:19
to be able to undertake. As much as it's stress
58:22
-worthy, it's got to be so gratifying, whether
58:24
it goes well or it doesn't. being able to build
58:26
and learn off that. And I think, uh, the person
58:30
in the pudding, because all those guys on kill
58:31
Tony, they're just like, there's very few of
58:34
them who don't have a good, like upward trajectory
58:37
after that. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like positive
58:40
stress. Yeah. And they're so, they are so good,
58:43
man. Like, Oh my gosh. Like, and I know Timmy
58:46
no breaks, you know, of course excelled, but
58:48
like, but a lot of people don't realize like
58:49
how funny Tim Stifler. Stifler? Tim Stifler.
58:53
Stifler. Thank you. How funny Tim Stifler actually
58:57
is, you know, like he's fucking great just on
59:01
his own. Totally. You know, so people, you know,
59:04
people like, I feel like, you know, they see
59:05
what they want. They see, they see what it is
59:08
and they don't realize all the hard work that
59:10
goes into it. You know, so that's pretty cool
59:13
that, that you have that frame of mind where
59:16
you just want to keep working. Yeah, you know
59:18
and you have dreams and accomplished there are
59:21
things that you want to accomplish You know,
59:22
that's really awesome, man. Oh, yeah, but I do
59:25
have to ask you'd like I've been wondering this
59:26
the whole time But like what's up with the suspenders,
59:29
bro? Like why why suspenders? I promise you,
59:37
it's truly functional. It's not a gimmick. I
59:39
believe you. Totally. I loved all your jokes.
59:43
By the way, the toe strap jokes and everything.
59:45
I was like, yes. Thank you. Thank you. This is
59:48
so good. It took me staring at a picture of myself
59:51
wearing suspenders to really get that joke down.
59:53
That's a, that's a good one, dude. Like the,
59:55
the one about you in the back, like with the
59:57
Tacoma and everything, I was like, specificity.
1:00:00
That was great. I was like, bro, yes. Cause I
1:00:04
literally carry toe straps. So when you said
1:00:06
that, I was like, I think they come with the
1:00:08
Tacoma, don't they? Yeah, except for I got an
1:00:11
06 Pontiac vibe. Oh my gosh. Still. I still got
1:00:15
them toe straps. There you go. There's literally
1:00:21
one instance and I remember, uh, my buddy, my
1:00:24
buddy, my buddy, Frank, he's, he's in a band
1:00:26
called guac. Guac? G -U -A -C -K. Guac? Guac.
1:00:33
And that like completely explains him because
1:00:36
he's just, he's such a funny, creative guy. And
1:00:38
I think we really vibed on that. Um, but there
1:00:41
was one day in the back room of Trader Joe's
1:00:44
in Paramus, New Jersey, um, my belt broke. it
1:00:48
snapped and I had to, um, I had to use bailing
1:00:53
wire. So like, have you worked in grocery stores
1:00:55
before? No. So like what we do with all the cardboard
1:00:58
at the end of the day is we compress it all in
1:01:00
this machine and then we take these, um, essentially
1:01:04
wire straps and wrap them around it and pop it
1:01:07
out of the thing and send it off to the warehouse.
1:01:09
Yeah. Like you crimp it down and everything.
1:01:11
I've done that stuff. Oh, okay. Yeah. Um, and
1:01:15
I had to use that bailing wire as a belt for
1:01:17
the rest of the day and it was, it sucked. It
1:01:20
sucked because I didn't have another belt. You
1:01:22
know, belts are not cheap for this. Yeah. They're
1:01:27
like $50 a piece. And, um, I think, oh man, I
1:01:32
don't remember why I had suspenders. I wanted
1:01:35
to say, I want to say it was for Halloween. I
1:01:38
think one year I was a lumberjack for Halloween
1:01:40
and that's all I had. and I threw them on and
1:01:45
I'm like, these work. You know? And, uh, and
1:01:49
something about wearing a belt too. Like I always,
1:01:51
as soon as I loosened the belt, I had to shit
1:01:53
to be quite candid. And, uh, with this, I don't
1:01:57
have to feel that way. I just go when I have
1:01:59
to. It's again, a weird thing, but, um, they
1:02:03
just worked, you know? And I'm just like, Okay.
1:02:07
Yeah. That's pretty cool. And they're a lot cheaper
1:02:09
than belts. And they add a style, a different
1:02:11
style. Yeah. And I have a few different ones.
1:02:13
I mean, I don't, I'm not into the whole like,
1:02:15
oh, red, white, and blue or like pride color
1:02:16
one. That's not my, that's not my game. I just
1:02:19
like the simple black. Like I can wear this with
1:02:22
a dress shirt. I can wear this with a t -shirt,
1:02:24
you know? And that's kind of what I like is.
1:02:27
It works. I'm not gimmicky with it. You know,
1:02:29
it just works. What works for me. Dude. Yeah,
1:02:32
it works. Have you seen anybody else with suspenders?
1:02:35
Uh, there's a guy I work with at Trader Joe's,
1:02:38
um, in Austin who he wears them occasionally,
1:02:41
but nobody who like wears them consistently.
1:02:44
Okay. The reason why I ask you is because I work
1:02:46
with a guy at my, like, uh, um, at my other job.
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I work with a dude, Bailey. Hey, Bailey. Anyway,
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I work with this guy. He also wears suspenders.
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Okay. And so when I saw you wearing the suspenders,
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I thought about him and I was like, What the
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fuck is everybody wearing goddamn suspenders
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lately for? I was like, I feel like, should I
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hop on this bandwagon and grab some suspenders?
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Super functional, you know? I can see myself
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going like, eh. I think when I first started
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wearing them, it was, I was thinking about like,
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oh, like a fireman calendar where they're wearing
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just their hands and they're like, hey. That's
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true. Their bunker gear has all, like we got
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the big ass suspenders that we used to have.
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Oh, that's right. You were a firefighter, right?
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E &T too? Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Just these
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big ass suspenders and everything. I used to
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actually, it was such a thing when you're donning
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your gear that I had a specific way, I think
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most firefighters do, but I had a specific way
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that I would lay out. my suspenders to get into
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the pants quick. There's a part of me that's
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like, dude, the way it looks basically is the
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bunker pants are all the way down and then you
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have your boots out. Basically, it's like you
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almost have your pants inside out and then your
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boots are out and your suspenders are basically
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on the ground. Then if we get a tone, you just
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go run real quick, put your boots on and then
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pick your pants up and then put your suspenders
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on. Real quick. Sounds like me every morning.
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Yeah, exactly. So I was like, dude, I'm going
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to do that. It's so funny you mentioned that
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because I think, so with jeans and me, I can't
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wash them all the time. I mean, if I get sweaty
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or if like, you know, of course, but a lot of
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the time I'll just pop the suspenders off, throw
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them in the ground and then next morning, step
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right into the sucker's throw and back on. Dude,
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that is badass, bro. Why not? It's easy. G -pow,
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G -pow. Have you gotten a lot of that with the
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fucking, what do you call the other guys? Pow!
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Pow, pow! No, what do I get? Step brothers, a
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lot. Step brothers, that's what it is, it's step
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brothers. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm talking
1:04:59
about. Pow! Not other guys, whatever. That's
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Will Ferrell though, but yeah, Mark Wahlberg,
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yeah, that's right. All those white guys look
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alike. Oh my God. I had, a few people have definitely
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like pow! You know, yeah Kobayashi, you know,
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give me the whole spiel. That's so good fucking
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Catalina wine Yeah, we could just go down that
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horrible thing But anyway, dude, is there anything
1:05:23
that you would like to put out? This is your
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camera if you have anything You can you could
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find me pretty much every Saturday at San Jack's
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saloon on the second floor I work with a company
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called cage cat productions and we put out great
1:05:37
showcases with Mothership comics kill Tony comics
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a lot of local guys trying to get their shot
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So you get a you get a really good best of everything
1:05:47
with the show. So yeah, I mean this week well,
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I mean it's too early already, but Yeah, we do
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every Saturday. This week, though, we were lucky
1:05:55
enough to do Friday and Saturday, so we got tons
1:05:57
of people out today. But then, yeah, every week
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after that, we're Saturday at San Jack Saloon.
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San Jack Saloon. Hell yeah, dude. Well, man,
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dude, I had a great time, man. It was really
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fun. Me too, man. Thank you so much for coming
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on, dude. So fun. Thank you, Trey. Appreciate
1:06:10
it. Yeah, absolutely, dude. Thank you. And I
1:06:12
guess that is a wrap. Thank you for tuning in
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to Only Bombs. Fuck. That's it, brother. We're
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done. Thanks. Thank you. Hell yeah. It was fun,
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man.