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50th Episode Special! | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #50 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian re
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  podcast, but it's not just any episode.
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  Today is the 50th episode of the podcast.
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  I have mr. Dutch deals with me today.
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  Yeah, I'm a bad man. How are you?
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  I'm great. Yeah, we've got a whole full
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  show planned out here. We've actually sat down and,
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  like plan this out, which I mean, I always do that anyway.
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  But you know, I am anticipating a quick run-through.
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  Yeah, I anticipate this is going to be like a bumper episode.
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  I even thought about the fact that it could actually be a lot
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  to par but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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  Let's see what happens. But for today's show and I think
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  moving forward, Dutch deals will be responsible for at least
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  leading his episodes. That's the way I see it.
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  So yeah, without further adieu Take us through the episode,
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  mammals or something. Well, would you like a quick run
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  through of everything we're doing today?
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  Or would you like to keep it sort of stoom?
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  Keep it chill like a keep it, you're done.
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  Okay? So once you take the lead and
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  I'll sit back and do nothing. Okay, makes up for the other
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  episodes. I yeah, no.
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  Okay, so segment one, I've got here is ask Chris.
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  And we are back doing another ask Christian.
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  So yeah. Okay without further Ado, I just
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  do want to interject real quick go.
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  This is going to be the final ask Christian for the
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  foreseeable future. I believe it's the third, ask
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  Christian that we've done for the podcast.
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  Obviously, I've done various iterations of this for Instagram
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  and YouTube just in general and like to be fair.
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  Those have had like relative, I guess you could call it success
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  in some ways. But for this particular segment
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  for this podcast, we haven't really had any success,
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  unfortunately, because the whole idea, the whole Vision I had for
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  it is for you know, us to send out questions to the audience
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  and the audience gets back to us and asks genuine questions that
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  they want to know about myself Dutch or the podcast in general.
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  We did that this week. I went on a social media.
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  Tirade trying to promote the hell out of it, didn't receive
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  anything back at all. Not one message with the
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  exception, I did actually receive hate, I would call it a
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  hate comment, but let me explain.
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  So I have two discords, one for myself and one for the podcast.
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  And when I messaged the whole Discord with luck a everyone,
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  which I don't normally do, but like for this I did because it's
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  a special occasion. I receipt, it was basically 10
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  questions that I had written down and planned out with
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  thoughts behind, you know, Well, people like dislike, you know,
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  that kind of thing. And this base this person
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  basically just You know, every answer was like f you hated it,
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  this that and the other and for me that was kind of like the
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  final straw as find this. Like you know, we didn't receive
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  any messages, we didn't receive any kind of Response other than
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  this. So I think it's about time that
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  we kind of just draw a line under this and, you know, in the
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  future. If people, if we receive
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  questions, if we, you know, if I see that that's happening in the
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  comments, or if I get messaged, or if you get messaged or you
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  know, whatever, then certainly will do that.
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  For my Instagram, the ends are literally always open.
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  They won't use them for memes at the moment.
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  So, yeah, and I will say, as well actually, Because we're
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  going to do a segment for you today.
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  Ask deals, which is the first time we've ever done this fine.
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  We'll talk about it look like, but it's the same thing.
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  Like I want that to be like, you know, if you don't care about me
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  but you do care about deals and you want to hear about deals,
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  then by all means, send the questions into him or send them
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  to me and we can do future segments of that too.
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  But for, as far as I'm concerned, there's no point sort
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  of doing them past this point because there isn't any Actual
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  interaction between us and the audience.
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  So I don't want to sound like a sad thing.
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  I think I'm just trying to be a bit more like reasonable with
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  this and you know, maybe in the future.
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  You know. It will be a thing that people
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  want but right now there doesn't seem to be a lot of that.
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  What I will say though, on a positive note, kind of give it a
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  spin, is that there does seem to be a little bit more viewership
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  as far as YouTube and on all of the audio platforms is
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  concerned. So, I do want to say like a big
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  thank you to everyone that is watching and enjoying it.
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  I really hope that you are. Thank you so much for watching
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  or listening I would say is always a lot of yeah it really
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  does and you know it motivates me to keep doing this to keep
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  finding interviews. Obviously me and Dutch have got
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  stuff planned for the future so you know I would say like please
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  be vocal like let us know what you want to do.
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  We'll try our best to kind of incorporate whatever you want.
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  Whatever you want but yeah please let us know.
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  And also don't be afraid to tell us what you don't like as well
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  because I appreciate constructive criticism.
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  He's maybe even don't like like I don't know, the kitchen yeah.
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  Paint your kitchen, change your kitchen.
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  We don't like to anything in the kitchen.
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  Turn it upside down, but it put a fridge behind me.
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  I don't know. I'm always man.
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  That would be so sick if we had a segment where it was just like
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  drinking coffee, mid mid, We could have a future segment
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  where like like people get to just vote in what they want you
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  to change about your house and you have to do.
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  So again 100 likes and you I don't know paint your kitchen
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  pink or something, the kitchen pink. 1,000 like something, pick
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  the pink to know what's wrong with pink only thing worse than
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  pink would be yellow. Like looking at everything in
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  the house and then pinning it like a bright yellow.
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  It's, you know, I gotta say sometimes when I see someone
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  drive past with like an orange car or something, I do wonder if
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  they're a psychopath. I mean, like, why would you
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  purposefully? That's what kind of car really?
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  If it's just like your everyday card then no, but if it's like
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  an exotic kind of car than any oranges.
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  Still. Oh, I've got a Lamborghini.
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  You know what I want that in Orange.
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  What's me? What's wrong?
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  With an orange Lamborghini? I don't know, man, blue Cadillac
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  Reds. It depends what kind.
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  I mean, the classic Lamborghini color is a yellow or like a
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  bright green. Yeah, I mean, don't get me
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  wrong. I have seen them in Orange.
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  I know they're very like regular and stuff and it's quite common
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  but I just don't get that color on cars whenever I see yellow.
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  Pink, or orange cars. It's a very kind of strange
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  thing and you do sort of stare at the car, especially pink cars
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  and you're like on a pink. No, that doesn't go with any
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  kind of car, unless it's a thick massive Homer or something.
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  That's why. I mean, I think it's fine if you
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  run like a nail business, you know, and you know you want to
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  draw attention to yourself then. Well done.
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  Fantastic. Exactly what you're doing there
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  and it works looking at the car, not the actual advertisement.
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  Well, you say that, but I mean, if you're drawn to the color
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  which we are as humans, you know, that's a very well-known
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  thing that colors invoke certain emotions and feelings from us
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  and pink. You know you do stop and stare
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  and inevitably you're probably going to look at what the
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  writing says. And you might remember that and
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  especially if you know if you're a lady and you like to get your
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  nails done off, then you might that might be the first thing
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  that you think of next time you get the your nails Do you think
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  I should open our cargo, like, pink and put the Christian roof
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  podcast inside? Sure why not.
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  No Bessie would not appreciate that.
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  I'm just saying, who's Bessie the car?
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  The car you've named your car version?
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  I've named my car. Yes, Bessie.
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  You say, okay, let's, let's reiterate this or let's go back.
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  You don't own a car, not ashamed.
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  But when you're showing you, when you are, when you own a
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  car, you're going to paint it pink and you can kind of tell
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  you going. It Bessie.
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  No, the car that's sitting out there will eventually be mine
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  and it's called Bessie. So this is just some random car
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  no, it's been in the family since 1998.
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  How is this your dad's car then Well, I got passed down.
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  It's a family heirloom. Okay.
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  It is a family heirloom, actually, you joke about it, but
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  not for a fine. Sorry touched a nerve because
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  this just because you did touch enough.
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  What yourself? Maybe.
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  Sorry. I didn't.
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  I didn't mean to insult Bessie. Is it when you say it like that,
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  you've just done it again. You apologize for insulting
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  besties and then you said it again, I did and I'd do it
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  again. Moving swiftly on, okay,
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  actually, before we go on with ask Christian, I do want to
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  mention this real quick so I fight and by the word.
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  So this podcast will drop after this is actually appeared.
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  So we can talk about this. I finally got round to uploading
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  putting together and uploading the chase.
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  You've actually just shot me in the foot because that was going
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  to be one of the questions that I asked.
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  That's fine. Let's, let's talk about it now.
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  So I was going to say and okay. So can I ask the question and
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  then we talked about it early fine.
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  So, mr. Reeve, have you got any special
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  projects that are ongoing. What's not ongoing?
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  Is it done? Yeah, but I mean, it was at the,
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  I mean, at the time it's kind of ongoing.
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  But nah, it took me like Probably an hour if that I was
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  trying to build up suspense with that question.
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  Let's let's let's Circle back to that question because I do
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  actually have some stuff to talk about other stuff.
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  So ask me that again later. But for now, let's lie.
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  Yeah, let's just talk about the chase.
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  So the chase is something that me and Deals worked on this
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  summer. Yeah.
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  A long time ago and we just shot it on camera phones and I don't
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  even know if I had anything particularly planned for.
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  Remember me, and you talking for a while, about doing some sort
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  of acting piece together and we were talking about like how it
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  would be possible to do it and the ideas that we had both for
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  if we met in person and also just, you know, online presume,
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  I don't know whatever, right? And we never like sat down and
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  came up with a concrete idea, but we did actually discuss this
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  idea of like in the forest. Because it's like a mutual
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  setting. We build forests nearby and I
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  believe because you were still in England when you filmed that
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  right? Or you're in Amsterdam or
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  Holland by that point, sir. Oh, I filmed it here, I said,
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  okay, so you're in Holland cool. Alright, so yeah, so that was my
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  parts were filmed in Manchester in a local Forest, the area near
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  to me and Salford. News were filmed in Holland.
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  And then obviously, we put that together and, you know, the
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  funny thing about it was that when you originally sent it to
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  me, I was kind of demotivated because it seemed like it wasn't
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  in order, but that was actually easily rectified when, when I
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  finally did go to Ed are, but I'll get to that.
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  So, basically originally, when you send it to me, it seemed
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  like it was out of order, like, disorganized kind of thing,
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  which wasn't your fault, it's just sometimes these things
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  happen. Yeah, set them or to accept them
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  to upload in a good unlike the right order.
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  So yeah, pressed on all of the right files in the right order,
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  but then it uploaded the shorter ones and then the longer ones.
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  And then it was like the so he's and the fourth, and the seventh.
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  Yeah, here's the deal. Like when I first looked at it,
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  it seemed like it was disorganized and I realized like
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  the magnitude of how long it would take to edit and stuff,
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  and I always intended to do it. That was always the plan.
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  But I just didn't want to do it straight away and then it sort
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  of sat on my list of like to do because I have this to do this.
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  That I've mentioned before. Where, you know, I think it's
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  got like Story Time ideas future video ideas that I'll do one
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  like a rainy day when I feel like I've not got anything to
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  kind of talk about or whatever or do, which seems like an odd
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  concept because I feel like there's always something like
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  I'm always having some ideas or something, but like I'm sure
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  they'll be a point where, like, you know, Maybe I don't have as
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  many ideas or I just feel like I should do them, but whatever it
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  was sitting on that list for a while and I always intended to
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  get around to and then it became a bit of a joke between us like,
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  oh, yeah. This thing, you know, and then
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  I, it was weird. Like I just, honestly, I just
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  kept forgetting about it, even though I had it written down, I
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  just kept forgetting about it. And I've been crazy busy,
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  especially lately. And then I just, I sort of sat
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  down at my computer, like yesterday, or whatever it was.
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  And I was like, Hey, let's do the chase.
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  Let's do it now. And then I sat down, I started
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  working on it and then when it came to the organization at the
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  files, I then realized that they actually were in order yours
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  specifically and so were mine. And so, all I had to do was just
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  put the one after the other the other and I clipped, I deleted a
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  couple of clips from mine. Annuals trims a bit here and
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  there and put it together and it worked perfectly better than I
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  could have imagined. And I feel that with the
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  soundtrack Yeah. Actually sounds really sick.
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  I know you haven't seen it yet. Like you will see it.
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  Itching. I'm itching to sir.
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  I think you'll enjoy it. I enjoy it.
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  But what I will say is now that this has come out afterwards, I
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  can say what I think I actually feel because what the first
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  thing that I put up was the It's not a trailer.
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  It's like a little mini teaser teaser.
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  Yeah. And it just says my name, your
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  name and then the name of the thing and I was really proud of
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  that but the that comes right at the end of it.
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  And I feel like that was actually the best part about,
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  who's the ending some limits? I really did my best like that I
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  could do with the whole thing. Putting it together.
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  I still think it's good for out, you know.
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  I don't profess to be like a great movie maker or editor or
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  anything like that. On a scale of one to ten.
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  What would you rate it? Hmm, if you have to sum it up,
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  it depends because I thought there's different ways.
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  I could I could raid it if we're talking quality.
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  I will put it at like a five or six.
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  Maybe a five-member, we were working with what we had.
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  Yeah. And this is what I mean, I'm
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  trying to be fair and reasonable.
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  I like I know it would be 10 times better if we had the
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  actual equipment but I'm just being fair.
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  Like, if we're talking just quality of what we're working
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  with five or six, which I still think is generous if we're
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  talking like the quality of the content itself.
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  It was hard to judge my own stuff.
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  Do you know what I mean? But like, I would put it at a
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  six or a seven ish. I'm very proud of it.
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  It's called, it's honestly come out a lot better than better
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  than I thought it would. I was really impressed with your
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  acting. By the way, I actually feel that
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  you're acting in many places was better than mine.
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  I felt like mine was just It's basically just my character from
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  the coin. Flip of a coin.
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  Yeah. Looser, which I didn't realize
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  until afterwards, like I didn't think of that character at all.
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  I guess, you know, it could be that character.
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  It could not be, doesn't mean it's not really, you know, the
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  the only idea I had as far as like, the idea of the character
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  was that this is like a bit of a psychopath chasing someone.
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  That's all I thought about. And that voice just came to mind
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  straight away, but you're in Reputations or your reactions
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  were just really good. Very good.
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  I know this will sound weird but very good like breathing in
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  certain parts. I know how that sounds but like,
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  given that it's a chase scene and that it's like reactions and
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  stuff, and the fact that, you know, you're reacting to no one,
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  there's no one actually there. I thought it was very
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  impressive. They actually I actually run
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  like, yeah, I know, I know it was very good.
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  And I like the ending as well, you know, obviously, I didn't
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  give you anything to work with at all.
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  Only the clips that I sent you. There was no information, which
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  makes it even more impressive, because for those who don't
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  know, every acting piece that I do that.
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  I produce never has a script. It's all unproduced.
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  It's all I call it the wrestling style.
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  So when professional wrestlers like really successful ones,
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  like some of the best like, the raw core like, CM Punk or people
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  like that famously, they use bullet points in their promos
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  where they basically essentially ad-lib the whole thing, but they
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  know where they're going with it, you know?
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  And if they get lost within it, they can always fear it back.
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  You know what I mean? Like there will there will
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  eventually be an endpoint and a certain person will win What the
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  promo you mean? No, no.
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  I mean just like with the bullet points like do they do they know
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  who's going to win? They do they know what was
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  exactly going to happen or I mean I don't watch wrestling.
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  I've Just Seen clips of it but I mean both performers like doing
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  the promo will obviously know what's supposed to happen.
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  Yeah. Usually if so they're like
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  raped. So the what I mean, it depends
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  because some can't like companies like WWE like these
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  days. They script everything.
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  They know exactly what's going to be said which sucks.
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  It's just a shitty way to do promos, but other companies iwm
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  LW New Japan by blah, blah, they ad lib or don't have a script
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  tool, but they all have this kind of like a to zed like,
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  okay, we need to cover like these things.
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  You need to mention this thing, this thing, this thing.
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  But how you get there is up to you what you say the verbiage
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  you use. That's all up to you.
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  That's generally how a wrestling promoter works but yeah, more
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  natural. Yeah, what's up.
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  Of the absolute best promos of all time, both old and current
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  day have been completely ad-libs and it's a better way because
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  it's more natural, I feel and that's why I do mine the way
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  that I do them because I feel like sometimes it's better to
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  let whatever comes naturally come naturally.
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  And obviously if the clip is just not good, then I'll just
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  film it again and see what happens.
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  But I always know like the purpose of what I'm trying to do
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  with it. Yeah.
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  Anyway, be any thoughts on this on the chase?
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  I know obviously you've only seen the, but when you've seen,
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  you've seen some of the clips, I mean, you, I mean, you kind of
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  know what something I've seen your Clips, obviously, because
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  that's what I was going off of. Okay.
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  Yeah. I don't know what my Clips are.
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  I'm just really intrigued to see how its put together.
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  I mean, it's basically just I've put it all together.
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  Put some suspenseful music under it.
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  I know I'm really under selling it, but that is really
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  essential. I've done and it's a testament
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  to the fact that music really does just have just yeah it
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  gives it an atmosphere. Like for example, I don't know
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  if you noticed but I'm pretty sure no one else did I
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  re-uploaded season 1 or flip of a coin with music and I took
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  down the original videos that had no music because I wanted it
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  to be more in line with the original video that season 2 and
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  season 3. I wanted it to be in line with
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  that. So I basically just did a George
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  Lucas and went back and but I didn't ruin anything.
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  Like, I basically added in the intro and the outro and I added
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  music to every segment, but I didn't change anything.
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  I didn't really film anything. I only added music and it helps
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  like it's actually made certain scenes, much better.
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  And I actually feel that season one was always the weak point.
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  But now it's got to a point where it's like consistent with
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  the others and my vision has been for Seasons.
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  I kind of have its own appeal obviously, but like each of them
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  tells a part of the story and There they all, they're all
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  equal footing now. I believe like they weren't
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  before but I feel that now. They are ya.
• 22:08
  Did you ever did you watch all of them or any other stuff
• 22:12
  curiosity, in some episodes when they've been uploaded?
• 22:16
  But I think I've got a no no you're really selling this to
• 22:20
  me. I've got to I've got to watch
• 22:21
  it. My own co-host, hasn't checked
• 22:23
  out I'm devastated. No, that's not what I said I
• 22:27
  have. Acted out, just haven't sat down
• 22:30
  and binged it. Yeah.
• 22:32
  I mean, there is quite a lot now.
• 22:34
  Actually, it's definitely too because the holidays are coming
• 22:37
  up after next week, I've got two weeks free time.
• 22:41
  I hate to be on the negative wave, but like, I really put
• 22:44
  like so much effort into season 3, like but I put a lot of
• 22:49
  effort into season two, but I put so much effort into season 3
• 22:53
  and I put the hot. Hear me out.
• 22:55
  Hear me out. It's this isn't about you.
• 22:57
  You. This is just in general, okay,
• 22:59
  this isn't about you, it's about me.
• 23:04
  It's all me. It's always been me.
• 23:09
  I mean, I put a lot of effort into and this isn't supposed to
• 23:12
  be like a sob story. It's just the fact that like,
• 23:15
  it's really sucks when you put your like, your life and soul
• 23:17
  into something and it just doesn't do well.
• 23:20
  And that seems to be the story of a lot of the stuff that I'm
• 23:23
  doing now, but I'm just kind of rolling with it.
• 23:25
  I'm just doing Enjoy what I love.
• 23:28
  And I'm just trying to focus on that.
• 23:29
  But every once in a while, it will suck like in line with the
• 23:34
  same as what happened with the promo, for this episode, it was
• 23:39
  the same with season three. Like I did premieres for every
• 23:45
  single episode and no one turned up for any of them with the
• 23:50
  exception of the first one, which still Z who's a friend,
• 23:53
  you know, still Z he's been on the show before is a Good
• 23:57
  friend, he's donated money to me before.
• 24:00
  Like he's absolute Legend. Cannot say enough good things
• 24:03
  about still Z, go check out his twitch.
• 24:05
  Go follow him, subscribe to him. Still he is awesome.
• 24:10
  Anyway, the scriptural linking dizi web I'll probably forget
• 24:13
  but here's the plug. You know what I'm gonna do is
• 24:17
  I'm going to I'm going to send you a reminder description,
• 24:22
  fine. I'll put the link in the
• 24:23
  description link and the Rip never anyone says that always
• 24:29
  just think of KSI like back in the day when he was like good
• 24:32
  the description I'm gonna just go be.
• 24:34
  I can see the message. I'm not blind Jesus anyway,
• 24:38
  where was I? So yeah, I basically Recorded a
• 24:45
  trailer for it like I did for the second season premieres up
• 24:49
  for every episode really went over and beyond for the promo of
• 24:56
  it and not one person showed up. I was just like cheese man.
• 25:01
  I remember just remember just sitting and watching the
• 25:03
  episodes in like watching the premier's and eating and stuff
• 25:06
  and I enjoyed them and I was just like I kind of feel like
• 25:12
  objectively, like, they're good June.
• 25:14
  And I mean, like, this is enjoyable content and I'm
• 25:16
  surprised like no one kind of checked it out.
• 25:19
  No one said anything because I remember getting some might
• 25:22
  positive feedback in the beginning.
• 25:24
  Like people actually, there was one guy in particular that
• 25:26
  actually was watching it and like, even devised like theories
• 25:31
  and stuff. And I thought, oh, this is so
• 25:32
  cool and then it just ended and so that was a really
• 25:36
  disheartening and I don't know, there's just been a Of
• 25:40
  disheartening stuff lately. Just got a, not let it really
• 25:43
  getting you. I mean, yeah, but do you like
• 25:47
  Channel every now and again but I've got like some free time and
• 25:50
  I've noticed it like some videos of shot way up but so do do do
• 25:55
  differently like this anyway. I am grateful like don't get me
• 25:58
  wrong like, oh no, I'm not saying that.
• 25:59
  I'm just saying. Sometimes the it seemed
• 26:02
  impossible. Think the thing is I kind of
• 26:05
  I'll be honest like that. Hearing that is BS.
• 26:08
  It's impossible. To not take it to heart a little
• 26:11
  bit like, well, I don't I don't, the thing is, I don't sit
• 26:14
  thinking about this all the time, do you know what I mean?
• 26:17
  Like, most of the time, I don't care.
• 26:19
  I get on with my life, I do what I need to do, blah, blah, blah,
• 26:23
  right. But that 5% of the time, I do
• 26:26
  sit, and kind of feel like I wish that I'd done something,
• 26:29
  you've got to, you have to, you have to sometimes sit and think
• 26:32
  about it. But yeah.
• 26:33
  And that's that's more what? I'm not letting it get to you
• 26:36
  too much, it's the key. All right.
• 26:40
  I don't think I do like, I've, you know, I'm the type of person
• 26:42
  that I'm always honest with how I feel.
• 26:45
  Do you know what I mean? Like, if I, if I'm happy about
• 26:48
  something, I'll say, hey, great this went really well or if I'm
• 26:51
  sad about something up here that are they sucked blah, blah, blah
• 26:54
  Did. I mean, like, I don't, I don't
• 26:57
  try to be paint. Everything is perfect or like
• 27:00
  everything is excellent. You know, then you've got it on
• 27:03
  your sort of perfect. You've got your attitude sort
• 27:06
  of, I think so. I mean, Jill.
• 27:08
  And I mean like a I think you should always be polite in a
• 27:12
  way. I kind of like the fact that I
• 27:14
  do kind of feel like that about my work because at least means
• 27:18
  that I care about what I'm doing and I'm not just doing it like
• 27:20
  to get views or some shit, you know?
• 27:22
  I mean, but I think I think I just think about like how much I
• 27:27
  put into certain things and when it doesn't get any attention or
• 27:31
  at all, it's a bit like because I always say this, right?
• 27:37
  Good and bad feedback or viewership or whatever is always
• 27:42
  positive right back. Apathy is the absolute worst
• 27:46
  thing ever. When just no one cares, that's
• 27:49
  the worst thing. Like even even when I get
• 27:52
  negative comments. Now like I always just first of
• 27:56
  all I laugh and then secondly I'm like cool.
• 27:59
  Someone cared enough to tell me that I suck or they hated this.
• 28:03
  That's good. Yeah, so they're basically
• 28:05
  accomplish in the opposite of what they want to do.
• 28:08
  Maybe I mean people have dated but if they type a comment and
• 28:13
  go this video sucked, no one will ever pay attention to it.
• 28:17
  While I mean you did enough to Common.
• 28:19
  Yeah, and that's the thing. Like I I take negative criticism
• 28:23
  differently because like, for example, criticism at all, if
• 28:28
  it's just where is criticism, is because there's a difference,
• 28:32
  don't forget this criticism and then there's all destructive
• 28:34
  criticism but that's just that's just plain Chris's.
• 28:39
  Yeah, you've got that doesn't help you at all.
• 28:41
  Yeah, I know. I'm not disagreeing with you but
• 28:44
  your attitude towards it can because you say oh it doesn't,
• 28:48
  it doesn't help me at all. It doesn't, it doesn't help me
• 28:50
  at all. And I disagree with that, I just
• 28:53
  sort of comments like that way. If someone look people leave me
• 28:56
  - comments all the time and you know often it's just like not
• 29:01
  quit constructive, it'll be something like our this sucked.
• 29:04
  Why would anyone want to watch this?
• 29:06
  This is trash blah blah blah, right?
• 29:08
  and, Yeah, when I was young person like a teenager like
• 29:14
  stuff wouldn't like that would get to me.
• 29:15
  Whereas now I go back to what I said before, you know, I take it
• 29:19
  as like this person has taken time out of their day to say, I
• 29:23
  hate this. I just like this, this bothered
• 29:25
  me, right? And that's good.
• 29:28
  Like if nothing else I want my work to invoke, something in an
• 29:32
  amine. So what someone's paid attention
• 29:34
  enough to actually say something rather than just shrugging It
• 29:38
  Off? Yeah.
• 29:41
  Well, don't forget, there's a lot of people that just dislike
• 29:43
  your stuff like on YouTube, they're just dislike it but I
• 29:46
  don't. For instance, there's one person
• 29:48
  I know. It's, I know for a fact, it's a
• 29:51
  particular person. There was someone who was I
• 29:56
  regularly post my songs on my subreddits right in a Reddit
• 30:02
  like acoustic Originals or something like that, right.
• 30:05
  Or acoustic cover. That is various different ones I
• 30:07
  posted and there was someone who To a comment that was YouTube
• 30:11
  already. I might have mentioned this last
• 30:13
  time we spoke, I can't remember. But basically they said stuff
• 30:15
  like our yeah you know, all your songs sound the same same chord
• 30:19
  progression, which is incorrect. Like if they listen to all of
• 30:22
  the songs, I've written some of them have similar chord
• 30:25
  progressions but a lot of them are different, different,
• 30:27
  tunings different sounds whatever.
• 30:29
  Right? But you know, there's many
• 30:31
  musicians that work in that manner, you know, me if you
• 30:34
  listen to someone like I don't know, City and Colour like
• 30:37
  there's a lot of his call progressions are Velour or like
• 30:40
  John, Butler Trio, you know, he hears music, sometimes it all,
• 30:44
  the songs even sound exactly the same, right?
• 30:46
  They still a different song. So I looked at that criticism
• 30:50
  and I was just like this is just incorrect like it's it's fine, I
• 30:54
  appreciate the criticism and I take it you know, I think about
• 30:58
  it now. Every time I write a song I'm
• 30:59
  like I hope this isn't too similar to what I've done before
• 31:03
  but at the same time like I mean that's not really a bad thing.
• 31:08
  Like That's kind of a lot. Like, for instance, if you write
• 31:12
  an album, often all of the songs on the album will sound similar
• 31:16
  because it's that particular vision for that record like his
• 31:19
  good example. There's an album, I love by a
• 31:22
  band called an incubus. They're kind of like a rock
• 31:26
  outfit from the 2000s, right? I love, love love, love them.
• 31:30
  And they did an album, I believe it's called circles.
• 31:33
  I could be wrong, but it's got songs.
• 31:34
  Like, wish you were here not by Pink Floyd's this different And
• 31:40
  Evan am a few other songs and they all sound very similar like
• 31:44
  tone pacing all of this stuff but they're all different songs.
• 31:48
  But I take it as like oh this whole record is One Vision one
• 31:52
  particular Moment, One capturing of a sound in a particular time
• 31:58
  and that's how I see my music like right now, all of my music
• 32:02
  sound to certain way and I kind of see it as like, yeah, I know
• 32:06
  I just Hit the mic. Ha ha bloopers.
• 32:12
  You're such a cool on the blooper reel.
• 32:15
  Anyway we're not really didn't mean childish.
• 32:22
  Yeah tell you anyway. You're making me lose my train
• 32:25
  of thought now. Yeah.
• 32:27
  So the music I have right now that I'm writing right now II,
• 32:30
  see it as like lockdown music, it's all kind of similar
• 32:34
  sounding but I am branching and experimenting as much as
• 32:37
  possible. but when I compare this to like the last solo stuff
• 32:40
  I did back in 2015 2016. And also back in 2013 when I did
• 32:47
  an EP, it's very different. So yeah, I always look at
• 32:53
  constructive criticism that I receive and try to like, think
• 32:57
  about like does this actually apply?
• 32:58
  Is this really constructive to me?
• 33:00
  Is this just someone hating? Because a lot of the time when
• 33:03
  you receive negative comments, it just comes out of jealousy.
• 33:07
  Like that example, that you gave.
• 33:09
  If I heard that I would just think this person's just Not
• 33:13
  jealous, but it bothers them on some level.
• 33:16
  Like it's insecurities like, this isn't a reflection of me,
• 33:19
  this is more of a reflection of them, you know what I mean?
• 33:21
  It's slow because that's the thing.
• 33:23
  When you're a happy person, either confident in yourself or
• 33:27
  happy in life. You don't attack other people
• 33:30
  like ever, you know, me, you don't hate on other people.
• 33:33
  That's something that - people do, which is what I've sort of
• 33:36
  realized that because don't get me wrong.
• 33:38
  You know, I was a negative person when I was growing up.
• 33:41
  When I was like, Late. Teens, I was not happy.
• 33:45
  You know, I've told the story many times I was working at a
• 33:47
  supermarket hate in life. You know, there were good things
• 33:49
  going on in my life but the bulk of my life was working in the
• 33:52
  supermarket and hating myself and feeling like I was never
• 33:56
  going to achieve anything and that was reinforced by the
• 33:59
  managers I had and the customers that were talked down to me and
• 34:02
  all of these different factors, right?
• 34:04
  In the mind of actually I'm just going to step in here and say
• 34:06
  that I kind of feel like that sometimes, but the important
• 34:12
  thing, This is sort of some advice to anybody who's up
• 34:14
  there. You know sort of heading
• 34:16
  yourself for whatever reason. Don't I know it's hard.
• 34:20
  Ha ha ha. I'm sorry.
• 34:23
  Great advice man. Now listen, listen here, my
• 34:26
  attempt. Okay, I'm listening, I'm
• 34:28
  innocent if try and think of the things that make you happy.
• 34:34
  Like, let's say, for example, you are working in a supermarket
• 34:39
  and you are sort of really thinking In that you're not
• 34:43
  going to really go anywhere. The only person who can change
• 34:46
  that, is you either? I mean, yeah.
• 34:50
  Okay, work in the supermarket, really.
• 34:53
  It's not the best job in the world, is it?
• 34:54
  But you're, you're making money, you're saving money.
• 34:58
  So that you can either go to college, get driving lessons.
• 35:02
  Put that towards your career, your intern.
• 35:08
  Yeah. Okay.
• 35:09
  You're in a supermarket. Stacking shelves.
• 35:12
  But realistically. You're preparing for your
• 35:16
  future. You know, I want to step in here
• 35:18
  because I literally obviously, like I said, I was actually in
• 35:22
  this situation nearly 10 years ago.
• 35:26
  Now, it's kind of crazy to think about nine years ago and I can
• 35:30
  tell I can walk you through exactly how I felt I remember.
• 35:39
  I remember feeling like very alone even though I had a
• 35:43
  girlfriend at the time friends, sort of you know not I'm very
• 35:51
  picky about friends these days. Like I've considered very few
• 35:55
  people to actually be friends. Most people I just regard as
• 35:57
  acquaintances about me. You know what?
• 36:05
  Let's get in there. Now, I consider you a friend but
• 36:07
  the thing is like, what you got need to understand is that like,
• 36:10
  I keep people at distance, like I let very, I let very few
• 36:15
  people like in, so there's like loads of stuff you don't know
• 36:18
  about me and that you won't know unless we become like really
• 36:21
  close Pally best mate. Totally, totally agree.
• 36:24
  Right. But I do it as a defense
• 36:26
  mechanism, and I think that a lot of people should, I don't
• 36:29
  think you should give yourself away freely to people.
• 36:32
  Because people, and this is just personal experience.
• 36:34
  People have screwed me over betrayed me all this lovely
• 36:39
  stuff. So that's mainly why I do it.
• 36:43
  If nobody knows what's going on or what?
• 36:46
  What sort of happened. Yeah, that that information is
• 36:51
  controlled only by you. If you let the wrong person in,
• 36:55
  they also know that information. And then you're kind of, you've
• 36:58
  lost a bit of control. They decided to tell everybody,
• 37:03
  That's it gone. Anyway, bring it back to the
• 37:05
  point. So when I was in the supermarket
• 37:08
  like even though on the surface you know I had a band, had a
• 37:13
  girlfriend. I had people, I knew I had a
• 37:16
  family and I mean, like I had things that I could people I
• 37:20
  could talk to but I couldn't talk to them because they either
• 37:23
  didn't care or they didn't get how I was feeling.
• 37:29
  You know what I mean? Like so I really felt alone and
• 37:31
  it's crazy feeling to feel alone when you're surrounded by
• 37:35
  people, that's worse than being a look like right now, I'm truly
• 37:38
  alone. Like I don't have any friends
• 37:40
  around me, I don't know anyone up here, you know, it's it gets
• 37:45
  lonely. But you know, I feel like really
• 37:46
  free and it's a weird feeling. I feel like extremely happy and
• 37:51
  like kind of a bit sad at the same time, but I definitely feel
• 37:56
  what hundred times happier than So, in many years and definitely
• 38:00
  million times happier than I felt working in that job.
• 38:03
  And here's the thing. It wasn't even about the job.
• 38:07
  It was about people. See, there's nothing wrong with
• 38:10
  working. In a supermarket.
• 38:11
  I knew many people that work all their life in a supermarket, and
• 38:14
  they love the job, and it's a pretty straightforward jobs,
• 38:16
  pretty easy, especially if you work for, like the higher tier,
• 38:20
  you know, companies like waitrose or Marks and Spencers,
• 38:23
  like it's it's pretty straightforward.
• 38:25
  Drop easy. You can get quite through
• 38:27
  through the ranks pretty easily. You know, there's a lot of
• 38:29
  positives but as a teenager with low self-esteem hating the world
• 38:35
  not feeling happy. Not feeling like they had a
• 38:37
  support network or any one that cared about me.
• 38:39
  I felt kind of like I just like thrown my life away like you
• 38:44
  know everyone else was going off to University and here I am in
• 38:47
  this place, you know and it really started to reinforce when
• 38:51
  I you know the band broke up and things started to go bad with
• 38:57
  the girl that I was with at the time. everything was just going
• 39:00
  to shit and it really reinforced how I felt at the time.
• 39:06
  But like I said, people made it worse.
• 39:08
  The managers around me. You know, I was trying to become
• 39:12
  a Manager there, I figured like it while I'm here.
• 39:17
  I should at least because I've always if nothing else, I've
• 39:20
  always had ambition within what anything I do, I've always tried
• 39:24
  to make something of what I'm doing.
• 39:26
  Even if I hate what I'm doing, I try my best and I just kept
• 39:30
  getting held down and that was my first experience of like
• 39:34
  workplace politics and it all sounds stupid to people because
• 39:37
  it's a fucking Supermarket bit. Anyone that works in any job
• 39:41
  ever will experience some sort of workplace politics Just
• 39:45
  inevitable. And unfortunately it has nothing
• 39:48
  to do with Merit. You can work your absolute ass
• 39:51
  off and you'll still be held down and it will come down to
• 39:54
  things, like nepotism, favoritism, whatever the case
• 39:57
  may be. And that's what was happening in
• 39:59
  this place. And it reinforced myself, or my
• 40:03
  lack of self-esteem, the managers kind of caught on to
• 40:05
  the fact that I had low self-esteem and wood.
• 40:10
  You know, it's kind of fucked. Like they kind of exploited that
• 40:12
  they knew they were doing it. They gave me opportunities and
• 40:15
  they said, like, hey yeah, we're going to, we're going to finally
• 40:18
  do this. We're going to give you this
• 40:19
  opportunity to be a team manager and it never happened and then
• 40:22
  they would give it to other people.
• 40:23
  They did shit like bring someone in, get me to train them and
• 40:28
  then put them over me, you know? And I just I'd had enough after
• 40:35
  that and, you know, I heard that the managers were like, bitching
• 40:38
  behind my back saying I was worthless and you know, I would
• 40:42
  never amount to anything and that's just what the management
• 40:45
  was saying and other people, right?
• 40:48
  Then there's the customers. Now, I worked in a place that
• 40:51
  you know it was a very well-to-do area is an area
• 40:56
  called chizik in London. Average house prices like 5
• 41:01
  million or something like that, you get lost.
• 41:03
  I bet he's living there, people commute at the time, they were
• 41:06
  commuting in and out of London to or sorry within London to go
• 41:10
  to White city where the BBC used to be, but there was other like
• 41:13
  places. They would go and such anyway,
• 41:17
  because of that, they would kind of look at you, like, you know,
• 41:21
  look down at down at you talk down to you.
• 41:23
  They would assume because you're working in a supermarket, you're
• 41:26
  stupid or, you know, not to be treated and treated with the
• 41:29
  respect which I think doesn't matter how successful you are in
• 41:32
  life, you shouldn't treat. Anyone like that, you know, it
• 41:34
  doesn't fucking matter where they work or what they do, at
• 41:37
  that has no reflection on their intelligence, you know.
• 41:41
  But anyway that's how I was being treated on a daily basis
• 41:44
  and eventually it kind of got to the point where I got so sick
• 41:47
  and tired of it that I just had to do something about it.
• 41:51
  I was like, it's either this or I don't know, I just lose my
• 41:54
  fucking mind and As the relationship with breaking down
• 42:02
  with this girl, that I was with I because she basically, she was
• 42:06
  studying and doing stuff the whole time as well.
• 42:09
  And I was like this is really - to having a relationship.
• 42:13
  I was jealous of her, envious of her doing that.
• 42:16
  I wanted to her to do it. I supported her doing now,
• 42:19
  obviously. But I was jealous, you know,
• 42:21
  which is an ugly emotion to have.
• 42:23
  But I was this Really confused miserable teenager, and it's
• 42:31
  weird. Because you think at that age
• 42:32
  you got your whole life ahead of you should be excited about
• 42:35
  things and naive and stuff, but I already felt like I knew
• 42:38
  everything and that, you know, not in a like sense that I know
• 42:41
  everything, but I felt like there's nothing for me.
• 42:45
  There's, you know, I've got nothing to look forward to.
• 42:47
  That's how I fell And then I just kind of had this attitude
• 42:51
  of like, fuck it. Let's let's just try to get into
• 42:54
  UT at the last minute and so I tried to do that didn't work out
• 42:59
  in the first time because it was just too late to leave it.
• 43:03
  But I started, you know, working at going to that college.
• 43:06
  I drop down to part-time hours which was a godsend, so much
• 43:09
  happier when I did that because I could get away from the
• 43:12
  supermarket. I could choose my own hours, to
• 43:14
  some extent. And, you know, I was doing
• 43:17
  something else besides stuck in sure.
• 43:21
  And then, like I said, I've told this story a million times so I
• 43:23
  won't finish it because everyone knows the ending, right?
• 43:26
  But the point of all of this is that it's very easy to say to
• 43:31
  people. Hey, you know, you've just got
• 43:33
  to go and do it. But you know what, it's it's not
• 43:35
  that easy. It took me two.
• 43:40
  I would say two and a half years before I was able to just
• 43:43
  finally say, fuck it. Let's just do it.
• 43:45
  And part of that was because of the band because I thought the
• 43:48
  band would work. Out and it didn't part of it was
• 43:50
  like me, not knowing me being unsure.
• 43:53
  Am I intelligent enough to go to UNI?
• 43:55
  Can I do this gonna because there wasn't anyone around me
• 43:58
  saying, hey Christian, you can do this.
• 44:01
  Hey Christian, I believe in you. Hey Christian, you should
• 44:03
  consider this. Have you ever considered this?
• 44:05
  There was no one like that. There was one guy.
• 44:09
  One person is name was Ross. He was older than me, very
• 44:13
  positive guy. He'd been through a lot of shit
• 44:16
  in his life. And he was a breath of fresh air
• 44:21
  in a place with mostly negative people.
• 44:24
  He was really positive, and he actually made me feel like I
• 44:29
  might actually be worth something and I attribute a lot
• 44:35
  of my feeling of like, hey, maybe I should try this.
• 44:38
  Maybe I should go this go for this to him.
• 44:41
  I'm not sure if he knows this or not.
• 44:43
  Unfortunately, we fell out of touch.
• 44:45
  Just these things happen, right? But I lost Always, you know,
• 44:49
  sing his Praises. I think he's an awesome guy and
• 44:53
  he really helped me at that point and throughout my life.
• 44:57
  There's been very rarely anyone like that.
• 44:59
  There's been a few people here and there along the way but
• 45:02
  mostly it's just been people even not giving a fuck or people
• 45:07
  trying to bring me down and the few people throughout my life
• 45:10
  that have been like the positive force and I've actually given me
• 45:13
  some hope of belief in myself like they come few and far
• 45:16
  between that's why you really like it.
• 45:18
  You ever meet someone like that in your life like really make
• 45:22
  the most of that person. I treasure them because most
• 45:25
  people around you, unfortunately are not like that and That's
• 45:32
  what I would take away from it and that's why I would say.
• 45:33
  Like it's no offense to you but it's not as easy as like you
• 45:38
  make it sound like all you just have to just do it like to some
• 45:41
  extent. Yeah, you do need to push
• 45:42
  yourself. You are in control of yourself.
• 45:44
  You are responsible. No one is responsible for you.
• 45:49
  That is true. But at the same time, you do
• 45:52
  kind of need some people around you.
• 45:53
  You know, people that give you a kick up the arse, make you see
• 45:59
  life differently, you know? This is why it's always
• 46:01
  Important to talk to like as many people as possible in life
• 46:04
  and to really, you know, put yourself out there because you
• 46:06
  never know what you can learn from people and how you can
• 46:09
  grow, and what you'll get, you know what I mean.
• 46:13
  And what you can give as well to some extent people often comment
• 46:19
  right now on the fact that, you know, they think that I'm a very
• 46:23
  positive person. They think I'm confident they
• 46:25
  think you know, all of this crap but basically They think about
• 46:32
  me and they say about me and it's funny to me because a, I'm
• 46:39
  not like a fully confident person.
• 46:42
  You know, I have good days and bad layers like anyone else.
• 46:45
  A lot of the way that I am right now is just years of
• 46:50
  understanding, like, how you need to present yourself in the
• 46:53
  world and how you need to put yourself out there and just try,
• 46:57
  just try. Even if you don't feel
• 46:59
  confident, even if you doubt yourself.
• 47:01
  All the time. I think you just have to try
• 47:04
  because if you don't try you just miss out and then you're
• 47:08
  full of regrets and that is worse than anything else is not
• 47:12
  knowing if you could have done something or not you know
• 47:14
  because the worst that can happen when you try is that it
• 47:18
  just doesn't work out. And you know, if that happens
• 47:21
  you learn something from it, you brush yourself off and you move
• 47:24
  on, right? But if you don't try, that's
• 47:27
  just on you, that's on no one else.
• 47:32
  So yeah, I don't know. I feel like I've gone off on a
• 47:34
  real times in here but I yeah that's what I think.
• 47:39
  Well, I've got nothing really to say, except I agree.
• 47:44
  When I was saying, when I was saying about having a positive
• 47:48
  outlook and focusing on you, deciding who you want to be.
• 47:53
  Yes, that's all up to perspective.
• 47:56
  If you can't do it, you can't do it.
• 47:57
  If you can, well done. You're one of the very few
• 48:00
  people that actually can. Yeah, I know.
• 48:02
  Yeah, that is important. I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to
• 48:06
  say, segue this into the first segment.
• 48:11
  Because it has been about an hour and we haven't even touched
• 48:15
  this first segment. Yeah, I am.
• 48:18
  It's good. This is this is what happens
• 48:19
  when me and you talk. This is good stuff went off on a
• 48:22
  huge tangent. It's so okay, so ask Christian,
• 48:26
  let's go. Yes.
• 48:28
  Okay so the very first question, the very most important
• 48:33
  question. Why do you Christian Reef?
• 48:37
  Enjoy making this podcast. Whoo.
• 48:42
  Oh damn. Ladies and gentlemen, buckle
• 48:45
  your seatbelts. This might be a long one.
• 48:51
  Why do I enjoy making this podcast?
• 48:59
  It's not an easy question to answer, really.
• 49:01
  I mean, I've always wanted to do a podcast for many years
• 49:04
  originally. I just wanted to do a wrestling
• 49:06
  podcast and just talk about wrestling.
• 49:10
  I'd still be up for doing that, to be honest, but I quickly
• 49:14
  realized that I wanted to talk about all sorts of things.
• 49:16
  I didn't want to be restricted. Obviously, I did the tcga
• 49:23
  podcast very briefly. I really enjoyed that.
• 49:27
  I figured, that was what I was going to do because I didn't
• 49:29
  feel like I was interesting enough to do my own podcast.
• 49:34
  Like I know there's people that do it for instance, there's a
• 49:38
  wrestler called hurricane. Helms, the hurricane if you
• 49:41
  know, who I'm talking about and I don't really follow.
• 49:45
  That's fine. That's fine.
• 49:46
  He's a really funny entertaining guy.
• 49:49
  Very excellent, professional wrestler, and he does his own
• 49:53
  podcast like, just him. He I think he occasionally has
• 49:56
  guests and stuff, but mostly it's just him talking and I
• 49:59
  figured like if I did my own podcast, that's what it would
• 50:02
  be. And I just wasn't sure if that
• 50:05
  was interesting enough. but once I started vlogging, I kind of
• 50:12
  realized, I think it was when childish Jacko said to me like
• 50:15
  oh, you know, sometimes I just listened to your Vlogs while I'm
• 50:18
  at work, you know, just have them on in the background and I
• 50:21
  kind of laughed at that but I was like, that's interesting
• 50:23
  like so there something like when people, when I talk people,
• 50:28
  you know, might sometimes listen to what I'm saying, and find it
• 50:31
  interesting and I was like, I suppose I could try And I think
• 50:36
  this is one of those things where I'm still kind of figuring
• 50:40
  it all out if I'm honest. I know, it's been 50 episodes
• 50:45
  and there's been a lot. I've learned a lot in that time,
• 50:47
  but I think that It's one of those things that I just wanted
• 50:52
  to try and do and see what would happen and through the course of
• 50:57
  doing it. I've learned that I really enjoy
• 51:00
  like, interviewing people because originally, I did, I
• 51:06
  will always intended to have guests on the show but I didn't
• 51:09
  really know how that would look like.
• 51:10
  Would I talk to them about certain topics or would it,
• 51:14
  would it be like a game show type scenario?
• 51:17
  Or like what would happen right before randomly I Sided like a
• 51:21
  screw it, I'm just going to interview people like, you know,
• 51:24
  that would be interesting. You know, you introduce people
• 51:26
  to someone, you go through their life, you talk about various
• 51:29
  things, they're doing their dreams, their, you know, their
• 51:34
  beliefs on things whatever. And like with every person
• 51:37
  that's appeared on the show, it's been different.
• 51:39
  Some people, you know it's been straightforward, we do the
• 51:41
  interview, that's it. Other people, you know,
• 51:44
  escalates into some a long conversation discussion and I
• 51:47
  embrace either I'm happy to do either really Lee.
• 51:53
  So, I mean, I don't know if this really answers the question so
• 51:56
  can't give like a concrete answer to it.
• 51:58
  But I think mostly the reason I do it is because I just enjoy
• 52:05
  talking to people and learning from people.
• 52:11
  I enjoy the founder of the interviews and learning about
• 52:15
  the people that you're speaking to.
• 52:17
  Yeah, and I enjoy the fact that like every I'm I do this.
• 52:21
  It's always different. It's never the same.
• 52:24
  No guest is ever the same. It always feels the looks
• 52:28
  different. It's always a challenge.
• 52:31
  I like that. I like things in life that are a
• 52:33
  challenge. There you go.
• 52:36
  Okay, I must admit. That is a pretty good answer.
• 52:40
  Thanks. I enjoy doing the podcast
• 52:43
  because I mean assistant asked the ills yet, but I don't think
• 52:48
  you want to hear. I enjoy doing the podcast
• 52:51
  because not like it gives me something to do, but I enjoy
• 53:00
  believing that I have project. Hmm.
• 53:05
  Right now I'm not really working on anything.
• 53:06
  I'm taking a break from YouTube. I might make some odd videos
• 53:11
  that have sort of have, no actual meaning, but this this
• 53:18
  gives me A Pastime. This, this helps this helps me
• 53:24
  speak and get things out and sort of take control of my life,
• 53:31
  I guess. So also, it's important to have
• 53:35
  something to do. I know what you mean?
• 53:38
  Like, have a purpose or sense of purpose.
• 53:42
  As I mean, it's not, it's not like I'm saying, you know, I'm
• 53:45
  useless, there's no purpose of me exist.
• 53:50
  It's like for me, it's like I've been unemployed this whole time
• 53:52
  as everyone knows. And I remember thinking like in
• 53:56
  the beginning of this like it's very easy to just sit and play
• 53:59
  games and waste your time. But I felt like I have to have
• 54:03
  like, like me personally as a human being I have to have I
• 54:08
  like a day-to-day things that I'm working on goals projects, I
• 54:11
  don't know what it is about me. I've just learned over time,
• 54:14
  that's the type of person that I am.
• 54:16
  I have to have things that I'm working towards.
• 54:21
  I've have to feel like I'm contributing something of worth,
• 54:25
  that's why I started volunteering as well.
• 54:26
  It wasn't just about helping people.
• 54:28
  It was about like, how can I contribute to the world in a
• 54:32
  positive way? You know, and that's kind of
• 54:35
  like how I see what I'm doing as well here with Creating like I'm
• 54:40
  not trying to say like, oh I view.
• 54:42
  This is like some amazing content that would change
• 54:44
  people's lives because obviously not that like I do kind of feel
• 54:48
  like if I can make people smile or make people entertained or
• 54:54
  like maybe they're having a shitty day and they put this
• 54:56
  podcast on and it just makes getting through that day.
• 54:59
  You be easy. I like I consider that to be
• 55:01
  like something positive and a positive contribution and I've
• 55:05
  started to think more and more about that as I've gotten.
• 55:08
  An older like when I was young, when I was a teenager I didn't
• 55:11
  give a flying fuck about these things.
• 55:12
  I just wanted to be happy and didn't care about anything else.
• 55:16
  Whereas now I kind of see like being happy and is as much about
• 55:23
  doing things for yourself, that make you happy, as it is about
• 55:28
  doing things for the betterment of everyone else around you as
• 55:31
  well. Hey, that's a very good point.
• 55:38
  Making people happy making people.
• 55:39
  Happy is probably one of the best reasons you can give.
• 55:42
  So Try try. At least everybody, everybody
• 55:47
  listening everybody listening along to this right now.
• 55:51
  Just give a little bit of a round of applause.
• 55:53
  If you're sitting on the Bus full of will get very confused.
• 55:57
  Just sitting on the train just going.
• 56:01
  The end of the day. I'm just another guy just doing
• 56:04
  everybody. Everybody is just another
• 56:06
  person. Don't worry about it.
• 56:08
  That's true. Every no, not the people.
• 56:11
  Listen to this, the people listened to the some very
• 56:13
  special people, very good people.
• 56:15
  But everybody who decides to not, listen just another person
• 56:19
  who wasn't just, just just missing out.
• 56:22
  This was ignorant. Ignorant boogers.
• 56:24
  Yeah. Well, I wouldn't go that far.
• 56:25
  Come on, maybe, maybe they just haven't discovered the podcast
• 56:29
  yet, you know? And I know.
• 56:31
  Check my fish change their lives.
• 56:36
  Listen people listen. Take advice, man.
• 56:44
  Okay, so this is an idea that I had but didn't really follow
• 56:49
  through with like asking you about.
• 56:51
  It's okay, so ask it sort of on record the podcast episodes in
• 56:57
  2021. Yes.
• 57:01
  So you started this podcast this year, right 2020?
• 57:04
  Yeah. July time.
• 57:06
  I think. Yeah.
• 57:09
  How would you feel about making the episodes and 2021 season 2?
• 57:19
  I've been contemplating it or you've thought about it.
• 57:23
  Yeah, I mean. The thing with the thing with me
• 57:29
  is I feel that if you're going to do something like that, it
• 57:31
  needs to be new. If you're coming back in your
• 57:33
  own, your domain, you're doing a new thing, everything about it
• 57:37
  needs to change. So like what that would look
• 57:40
  like for me is, I need to have the money to get an Editor to
• 57:44
  edit these the look at them as well.
• 57:47
  So it's not just about how this looks but what I would want is
• 57:52
  like a logo links. To myself and yourself, you
• 58:00
  know, all of that, I want it to look and feel different.
• 58:03
  So for a season to, that's what would need to happen, as far as
• 58:07
  I'm concerned because I don't have the money to do that right
• 58:09
  now, I'm going to continue in the manner that I am now.
• 58:14
  So it will remain season 1 or whatever it doesn't really
• 58:18
  matter like this whole season. One thing like I've noticed that
• 58:20
  that's the thing on like anchor. Where I distribute the the
• 58:24
  podcast for audio platforms and I thought Bout that I thought
• 58:28
  about, I go maybe season 2 will be next year, but like pass this
• 58:32
  episode. I've already got podcasts lined
• 58:34
  up that hopefully will still happen and that will continue on
• 58:39
  afterwards, after 50. And I figured like or should I
• 58:42
  do something special and I might want, there's not really
• 58:45
  anything I can do that. Will look to the quality and
• 58:48
  standard that I want. That's the thing.
• 58:50
  That's the reality of the situation is anything that I
• 58:52
  produce will not be great quality because I'm just not a
• 58:57
  good day. I know and I'm restricted by the
• 58:59
  tools that I have, but I'm absolutely 100% willing to put
• 59:03
  the money into getting, like, an editor, and getting an artist
• 59:06
  and all that stuff. When money is there, when I have
• 59:11
  that kind of money, if what, when it comes to a day, where
• 59:15
  like, I don't know, I get sponsored or I'm earning money
• 59:19
  from YouTube or, I don't know, maybe I received donations or
• 59:24
  something like that, then I would do that basically Okay.
• 59:29
  And on the subject of seasons and episodes, how many more
• 59:36
  episodes do you think they'll be of the Christian era podcast
• 59:42
  it'll just go all you can give me a really simple answer like
• 59:46
  as many as we can make. Because that, that is actually
• 59:51
  has a pretty good answer because that means that there's like, no
• 59:54
  end whatsoever. But like, I guess my question is
• 59:57
  more, have you ever thought about ending it?
• 1:00:01
  Well yeah, when I get like upset and night sad at the fact that
• 1:00:06
  it doesn't get any views that's normally when I go I should just
• 1:00:08
  end this right now basically. Yeah, I'm quitting but like I
• 1:00:16
  wouldn't ever do that because that's just not the type of
• 1:00:19
  person I am. Like if I'm going to enter that
• 1:00:22
  they just passed the half like a it has to have a conclusive
• 1:00:24
  ending but yeah. Have a foot about it.
• 1:00:29
  Yes, but I just, I mean, my attitude is I'll keep doing this
• 1:00:34
  as long as I enjoy it and as long as I want to, you know, I
• 1:00:37
  mean like I'm sure it will end one day, but I kind of I mean, I
• 1:00:42
  see I look at like Joe Rogan and how long he's been doing it and
• 1:00:45
  how his podcast has changed throughout the years.
• 1:00:49
  So you're saying that, I maybe at one point they'll be like an
• 1:00:52
  episode 1002. Who knows, maybe, you know, I
• 1:00:56
  mean, I didn't order a thousand. I mean, that's the whole point
• 1:00:59
  of this episode, why I wanted to do a special episode It was
• 1:01:02
  because like I'm amazed that we got 250, like I couldn't believe
• 1:01:08
  that we got to 10 episodes. I am furious.
• 1:01:13
  I am proud of you. Well, thank you.
• 1:01:15
  I remember when I looked on Spotify and there was like
• 1:01:18
  episode 12 like by 5. Yeah 9.
• 1:01:22
  And now we've just like blown out of the water and has 50.
• 1:01:30
  I mean, I think that's the thing.
• 1:01:31
  It's like if the more work you put in and the harder you try
• 1:01:35
  the The better things will become inevitably.
• 1:01:39
  Like, I've had some really great guests lately.
• 1:01:41
  I keep receiving really great guests.
• 1:01:45
  I keep getting good ideas for like future topics.
• 1:01:47
  We can do, you know, obviously the decision to make you a
• 1:01:51
  co-host was a big one. I like again, I've said this
• 1:01:54
  before, but I like the fact that a podcast almost feels like
• 1:01:56
  split. It's like two worlds operating
• 1:01:59
  within the same sphere, if you know what I mean.
• 1:02:01
  It's like, yeah. Interviews.
• 1:02:03
  And then Christian Dutch. I like that.
• 1:02:07
  Don't know why I like that. I don't I can't think of any of
• 1:02:09
  the podcast that does that. I'm sure.
• 1:02:11
  There are people costs to operate in that manner, but I
• 1:02:14
  like that. It's a variety thing.
• 1:02:16
  I like this idea that every time you tune in, you don't know what
• 1:02:20
  you're going to expect. I like that one sec.
• 1:02:23
  I'm going to I didn't know I could do this, but what are you
• 1:02:29
  doing? Would you not going to What are
• 1:02:33
  you doing? What's going on?
• 1:02:36
  What's going on changed? I've changed my name to do
• 1:02:38
  instead of bills. Let me know YouTube as well
• 1:02:42
  because my name is just Stills. But like there's already a
• 1:02:44
  YouTuber called bills. He's actually pretty.
• 1:02:48
  I've been telling you from the start.
• 1:02:50
  You should just call yourself Dutch deals.
• 1:02:52
  It's a great name. No one else has it.
• 1:02:54
  I'm going to keep calling you that because I think it's a
• 1:02:56
  great name. Like I like I like Dutch.
• 1:02:59
  It's just so simple. You don't know.
• 1:03:02
  But you did. The good thing about your name
• 1:03:03
  is interchangeable, you can use both.
• 1:03:06
  I just personally feel that you should your brand Should be
• 1:03:10
  Dutch deals, it's a good brand to have its sometimes you hear a
• 1:03:15
  name you know that expression at what's in a name like there's a
• 1:03:19
  lot in that name. It's it sounds like a brand-new
• 1:03:23
  people. Tell me the same thing about my
• 1:03:24
  name. It's just a fucking name at the
• 1:03:26
  end of the day. But I mean people have said that
• 1:03:29
  they like oh that sounds like a good name, like a professional
• 1:03:32
  name and I'm like yeah, I like it.
• 1:03:35
  You know, and I think that's the main thing.
• 1:03:36
  If you like it if it sounds good if Then use it, you know.
• 1:03:41
  I don't know. I think it also.
• 1:03:44
  There's there's the rhythm of how it sounds as well.
• 1:03:47
  If it's just deals or Dutch, it doesn't kind of roll off the
• 1:03:50
  tongue quite as as well as saying Dutch deals.
• 1:03:53
  It just hmm sounds good. Okay there we go.
• 1:03:57
  Don't change your back to Dutch dip.
• 1:04:01
  Hasn't changed. It's still says Dutch.
• 1:04:04
  No, but on YouTube. I mean, good, man.
• 1:04:08
  Good man. Ultimately, it's up to you.
• 1:04:10
  It's your decision in the end of the day.
• 1:04:12
  I just personally, if I was if it was me that's what I would do
• 1:04:16
  just say I like how I like how my banner is says deals and then
• 1:04:21
  underneath, it says subscriber you're a noodle.
• 1:04:24
  I don't even remember doing that subscribe while you're a noodle.
• 1:04:28
  Yeah. Fair enough.
• 1:04:31
  But my handle on like Twitter. I just I don't know what that
• 1:04:36
  should be Dodge do is right? Because right now it's done
• 1:04:40
  Pringle with an O instead of his instead of a with it wasn't 07.
• 1:04:44
  Oh that's actually your full name.
• 1:04:45
  Isn't your real name? Dylan Pringle?
• 1:04:48
  Yeah, I've just released that information.
• 1:04:53
  It's fine. It's okay.
• 1:05:01
  Do people people will find out your name.
• 1:05:03
  Anyway, this is 20/20 this isn't like 1970.
• 1:05:07
  People will like, literally go to the ends of the Earth to find
• 1:05:12
  out that favorite YouTubers name.
• 1:05:14
  Yeah, I'm out that I'm doubt. I doubt, I'm anybody's favorite
• 1:05:17
  YouTuber, he might, you know, you don't know.
• 1:05:20
  Maybe you are, you never know. That's quite a cool concept to
• 1:05:26
  think about what if I'm like someone's favorite usual but it
• 1:05:30
  what if someone just watches me religiously?
• 1:05:33
  That would be so cool. I would love to have a fan like
• 1:05:35
  that. I'd be a man.
• 1:05:36
  Your number one fan. No, you're not the worst because
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  this is podcast. Nobody can argue.
• 1:05:41
  Yeah, I can because you haven't watched all my content, you
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  haven't even watched the whole of flip of a coin.
• 1:05:46
  So clearly, you're not my number one for Jonah.
• 1:05:48
  Jonah Jonah, slap fight. What's going on here?
• 1:05:51
  We've already had a fight. We got divorced and you
• 1:05:52
  remember, Chris you better not be getting rowdy with me.
• 1:05:57
  Again I swear to God we envy your.
• 1:06:00
  Did you already took the freaking house and I'm the cop.
• 1:06:03
  Exactly. So you don't want to be arguing
• 1:06:05
  with me because then you really will start losing stuff.
• 1:06:10
  Yeah. Well you're gonna lose something
• 1:06:11
  if you don't be quiet. Don't know what you want to do
• 1:06:16
  is make a difference now. Okay, I'm gonna make a death
• 1:06:18
  threats, I'm just making it was clearly a death for it.
• 1:06:24
  All right. Have you got any more questions
• 1:06:26
  for me? Well, that was just unnecessary
• 1:06:31
  for that, for those. For those listening to
• 1:06:33
  Christian, we've podcast didn't proceeded to make a disgusting
• 1:06:37
  face at the camera. So, we Joey resume or what's
• 1:06:45
  going on? I'll just wait for you to
• 1:06:51
  finish. So uncivilized.
• 1:07:06
  He done. I mean, let's just wait, let's
• 1:07:13
  just wait for you, you know. Meet this guy, my co-host.
• 1:07:22
  I mean, what's wrong with me? It's the series of bad
• 1:07:29
  decisions. That's what your 20s is really a
• 1:07:32
  series of bad decisions. One after the other doctor says,
• 1:07:41
  what are you thinking about? Because you don't want to know.
• 1:07:48
  No, because you finally stop thinking about it and you calm
• 1:07:51
  down and you sort of go, you know what the worst thing is
• 1:07:54
  when you're at school and, you know, you pass notes, I don't
• 1:07:57
  have kids still do that now. But like when you were passed
• 1:07:59
  like exploitive notes and then they're like, read the note out
• 1:08:03
  and it would be like something unbelievably offensive or dodgy.
• 1:08:07
  You're like on, do you really you really want me to read this
• 1:08:11
  out? You really want me to do that?
• 1:08:14
  I'm pretty sure my And got sent out of class because he like
• 1:08:17
  like it wasn't easy was not even thinking he just drew the
• 1:08:20
  swastika on his piece of paper. Yeah she came over to look at it
• 1:08:24
  and she just saw one that's the doll.
• 1:08:31
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:08:35
  So moving on, do you have any more questions for me or is this
• 1:08:39
  segment over? I have one more question for
• 1:08:43
  you. One more question.
• 1:08:44
  Okay. Really I would have thought you
• 1:08:46
  had more I do but but what and want to keep we've got a
• 1:08:51
  schedule to keep Christ the more man.
• 1:08:54
  This is this is the last ask Christian we going to do now but
• 1:08:57
  now but never for real, I've been thinking about the
• 1:09:00
  questions. Something I really wanted to do.
• 1:09:06
  I've got the ones that I really oh, great.
• 1:09:09
  No, I've got the ones that I really, really want to ask but
• 1:09:11
  there's some that just sort of, literally no point in them,
• 1:09:16
  okay? So the final question, Chris,
• 1:09:20
  you may recall in 2019, you made a short film called paperwork.
• 1:09:26
  Yes, when throat, you said that it was completely not scripted.
• 1:09:32
  Okay, so there was a script. We did learn it, but then when
• 1:09:37
  it came to the day of filming, we sort of ad-lib like a lot.
• 1:09:43
  Like I didn't even use the scripts anymore.
• 1:09:45
  I because I kind of is what I was talking to you about before.
• 1:09:48
  It was that whole thing of like we knew where we needed to go.
• 1:09:50
  We knew what the destination was, but to give you an example,
• 1:09:54
  when you see me walk in and start talking to everyone and
• 1:09:57
  Slam something down on the desk, all of that was ad-libbed.
• 1:10:01
  I just knew that. Basically, they wanted me to be
• 1:10:05
  a prick. I had to be an asshole office
• 1:10:08
  manager. That no one likes, and I was
• 1:10:09
  like, oh, that's easy. I've worked with people like
• 1:10:11
  this. So I know exactly what I'm
• 1:10:12
  doing. So, I've looked over and I was
• 1:10:16
  just a prick basically, and then when I slammed that, what a way,
• 1:10:21
  it was like fight setup files by his desk.
• 1:10:25
  I was like I could think of people, I know people that have
• 1:10:27
  done. Done this.
• 1:10:28
  I got no people like this exist. So it's fun playing that person.
• 1:10:34
  And. Yeah, but the whole thing was ad
• 1:10:35
  libs, I'm pretty sure all of us didn't use the script.
• 1:10:39
  We just kind of rolled with it. And yeah, I think it came out.
• 1:10:42
  Well, I enjoyed it. Well, that's good.
• 1:10:47
  Can I didn't. So the actual question that I
• 1:10:51
  was going to ask you in this is going to like it totally expose
• 1:10:54
  you and cheer for. Did you actually get any shots
• 1:10:57
  in the van? Yes, of course.
• 1:11:02
  Now we were told only we were told on purpose like the whole
• 1:11:06
  point of the scene is supposed to be a kind of like masking any
• 1:11:10
  bullshit thing where the actual thing.
• 1:11:13
  If you watch it, it's supposed to do something much deeper.
• 1:11:17
  I can't remember what it was exactly based on, but the whole
• 1:11:19
  idea is my character is supposed to be like We can then the other
• 1:11:27
  male character. So I was told to purposefully
• 1:11:30
  Miss like and it was funny like how close I was to the like is
• 1:11:35
  impossible to miss without like, I don't know.
• 1:11:38
  Having a seizure showing you were actually really close to
• 1:11:40
  the bin. It was just made to look like
• 1:11:42
  you far. I will set no.
• 1:11:44
  Some of it was like I was a little bit of a distance away
• 1:11:47
  but yeah a lot of it was just clever camera work.
• 1:11:51
  But so also when you were In the actual shot like you moved
• 1:11:55
  forward. And when what let me put it this
• 1:11:57
  way, right? It looks like I'm going like
• 1:11:58
  that, right? But actually, like I'm a
• 1:12:01
  distance of like, what? I don't know like here to like
• 1:12:05
  more or less. That's or less is more or less
• 1:12:08
  like a slam-dunk basically. So you require the yeah.
• 1:12:10
  I mean like the actual for would have just been like that but I
• 1:12:13
  had to kind of give it a bit. Hmm, imagine imagine.
• 1:12:17
  Just that that shot. Just did you know the funny
• 1:12:19
  thing? It was actually more difficult
• 1:12:21
  to miss. Like it was actually kind of It
• 1:12:24
  difficult to pretend to MIT that it was strange.
• 1:12:26
  I don't know, those being told to, like deliberately Miss.
• 1:12:31
  Yeah, but it's fun. I liked, I liked because I love
• 1:12:36
  to play villains and assholes. It's so fun.
• 1:12:40
  Well, that just says, a lot about your character, doesn't
• 1:12:42
  it? Maybe love to play villains and
• 1:12:46
  assholes. It's fun.
• 1:12:48
  It's what like, it's like in wrestling or all the all
• 1:12:50
  wrestlers were said the same thing.
• 1:12:51
  It's way more fun to play a bad guy.
• 1:12:54
  Then it is playing a good guy. It's just, it just is, I don't
• 1:12:58
  know what it. And I think unless you're like
• 1:13:00
  a, no actually, even if you're a superhero in a superhero movie,
• 1:13:03
  I still think it's more fun to play the villain.
• 1:13:06
  Especially if it's like Batman, you're paying the Joker?
• 1:13:08
  I mean, who wouldn't want to do that?
• 1:13:10
  Like, hell yeah, any less learn. Then he'll come back to that
• 1:13:14
  one. Alright.
• 1:13:18
  So that was it, then. That was your last question.
• 1:13:21
  See, all right. Well, thank you very much for
• 1:13:23
  that. That's the final ask Christian
• 1:13:26
  segment for if you wanted back comment and we make the yeah.
• 1:13:30
  But back by public popular demand, I guess maybe one day.
• 1:13:34
  But yeah that's it. I asked question 3.
• 1:13:36
  Maybe maybe I'll stay a Trilogy, who knows?
• 1:13:38
  But yeah, thank you thinking. I think, actually, that's the
• 1:13:42
  third one. I'm pretty sure it's the third
• 1:13:43
  one. I'm pretty sure of the follicle.
• 1:13:48
  Whatcha saying different things to me for argument's sake.
• 1:13:51
  No, no, I'm not. I'm not being a dick.
• 1:13:53
  Like, I genuinely actually believe I need to double-check
• 1:13:57
  this. You should because I know that
• 1:14:00
  I've done them a lot for I've done them for my own YouTube
• 1:14:05
  account, as in like Like I do, I sometimes do live streams where
• 1:14:12
  it's just me, basically getting people to randomly, ask me
• 1:14:18
  questions and it's the same for my Instagram as well, but that's
• 1:14:23
  more livestream. And I encourage people to be
• 1:14:25
  silly with their questions and so, I mean, it's whatever.
• 1:14:27
  Whatever goes do, you know what I mean?
• 1:14:29
  We're as I kind of assumed with these videos that if anyone
• 1:14:33
  would ever send anything in, it would be stuff that they're
• 1:14:36
  actually really dying to know rather than just the office.
• 1:14:39
  What kind of thing but yeah, I don't know.
• 1:14:44
  Because on Instagram, I've done 99 versions.
• 1:14:54
  Where is this clip, man? and on YouTube, I think of, you
• 1:15:00
  know it, I'm right ask Christian to I think or maybe I haven't
• 1:15:07
  uploaded the third one. We'll just say it's three to
• 1:15:12
  four. Okay, 3.5 it's not it's not that
• 1:15:16
  important, is it not really? So This Is Us Christian 3.5
• 1:15:21
  that's been finished ah, on the bright side.
• 1:15:24
  This is the first ever. Oh dude, or ask Dutch deals by
• 1:15:32
  prayer, ask deals, but I could have warned me to like, take my
• 1:15:35
  airflo gun. Why would I, why would I do
• 1:15:37
  that? You just tortured me with those
• 1:15:39
  questions. I'm kidding.
• 1:15:43
  I'm kidding. I'm pretty sure I've asked you
• 1:15:46
  this before but just in case, what's your favorite type of
• 1:15:49
  content to create? My favorite type of content to
• 1:15:55
  create. Well, I quite like making Vlogs,
• 1:16:02
  but when they have a meaning, like the one where I went to
• 1:16:06
  three different countries. Yeah, that was a really fun Vlog
• 1:16:10
  to make. I also liked that little prank
• 1:16:17
  video. I did my dad, my didn't ya
• 1:16:20
  clearly not. How do you feel about that video
• 1:16:23
  that the prank video that we missed?
• 1:16:30
  Are you sad to know that we just went out?
• 1:16:36
  He said nah, man. Well, you'll be happy to know
• 1:16:40
  it's on like 126 views. So that's why some people must
• 1:16:45
  have liked it more than you You're just sad because you had
• 1:16:50
  to listen to watermelon sugar and I kept turning East.
• 1:16:54
  Yeah. That was probably the worst part
• 1:16:55
  of it for him. He hates watermelon Sugar by
• 1:16:58
  Harry Styles. Sure.
• 1:17:01
  This is it that you want a milk sugar?
• 1:17:05
  I never listen to her. It's awful.
• 1:17:09
  How is watermelon sugar white? Why you saying hi to one on
• 1:17:12
  sugar? I'll just what am I do?
• 1:17:13
  You think you I think makes sense in the world.
• 1:17:15
  It's not supposed to, it's just if it It's funny.
• 1:17:18
  Huh, pop sucks. Most pop music is just about
• 1:17:21
  sex. Anyway, if you really look into
• 1:17:23
  the lyrics, it will often be about sex.
• 1:17:27
  So very much something. Yeah, but mostly sex because sex
• 1:17:31
  sells that's 90% in haste kind of depressing.
• 1:17:34
  Like I remember years ago, there was a song, I think it was by
• 1:17:37
  Timbaland or something like that.
• 1:17:39
  I remember. But the lyrics were like our If
• 1:17:42
  you blow my whistle baby whistle baby.
• 1:17:44
  Yeah, that one. Yeah.
• 1:17:45
  That is. No obviously about sex.
• 1:17:47
  Like, come on. Yeah.
• 1:17:48
  But I didn't know that when I was young, I just like the tuna
• 1:17:51
  thought he was really cool. And I remember telling someone
• 1:17:54
  what it really meant and they are broke their world for them
• 1:17:57
  on felt so bad. That is just completely sticking
• 1:18:02
  to the topic, I guess you rock their world.
• 1:18:06
  Nope, no take us. Okay but your dream content to
• 1:18:15
  create. Gaming gaming.
• 1:18:22
  Yeah, I'd love to sit down and make playthroughs, but let's
• 1:18:26
  let's assume that money is not an issue.
• 1:18:29
  Like you can afford any equipment.
• 1:18:30
  Any go any place in the world whatever like you know, dream
• 1:18:35
  content, is it still gaming or is there anything else you'd
• 1:18:38
  like? I would I would build.
• 1:18:41
  If money isn't an issue, like you said, I would build like the
• 1:18:47
  Possible PC that I could build, so still by Gaming, yeah, fair
• 1:18:52
  enough, fair enough. Yeah, webcam and everything,
• 1:18:54
  like face-to-face can play through like a play, like,
• 1:18:58
  emotional games, fun games. My everything I would do the
• 1:19:02
  same as well. I people always ask me that as
• 1:19:05
  well, why don't you play new games?
• 1:19:06
  And it's like, oh, it's not because I don't want to it's
• 1:19:08
  because I just don't have the money.
• 1:19:10
  I do kind of 42 TV kind of food game console, like all I got
• 1:19:15
  yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna Gonna, I'm gonna spend 70 pounds to buy
• 1:19:20
  cyberpunk and play them. No.
• 1:19:24
  Know which game the, the new game that came out cyberpunk
• 1:19:28
  2077? I would totally, can I tie game
• 1:19:31
  looks sloppy? It's an RPG.
• 1:19:32
  Yeah, it's an RPG, but you can like pick how you live.
• 1:19:37
  You can either be a corporate scum bag.
• 1:19:39
  You can be a nomad who's like sort of sound of everything out
• 1:19:44
  and all the well, or kind of thing.
• 1:19:47
  Yeah. Or you can be a street.
• 1:19:48
  Kid, looks fun. It looks fun.
• 1:19:51
  Looks like a big, a is, I would love to There's so many games I
• 1:19:55
  see, come and go consoles. I've seen come and go and I've
• 1:19:58
  just never had the money to play them and I would love to I
• 1:20:01
  really want my mark my words one day.
• 1:20:04
  I will be releasing early. Game play footage of a game and
• 1:20:09
  then proceeded to do a walk-through of it.
• 1:20:13
  Cool man. Well, I look forward to that
• 1:20:14
  day. I'm sure we, it will happen by
• 1:20:17
  the way. I just I just interject.
• 1:20:18
  If no one, if you're if you're not already, please subscribe to
• 1:20:21
  Dutch deals on YouTube. He's a great.
• 1:20:23
  It YouTuber. I know I've said it before but,
• 1:20:25
  you know, hey, he's part of the show.
• 1:20:27
  So you got supporting now y'all that's that's that's crazy.
• 1:20:33
  I'm just a past like 7,000, some sort of trick.
• 1:20:37
  Wow, that'd be awesome. If that was true.
• 1:20:41
  That's that's actually not even possible.
• 1:20:43
  Because, of course, it is, every single, one of your subscribers
• 1:20:46
  was to watch this video. That's 500.
• 1:20:48
  So, five engine 515, believe, 515, plus 130, Does not equal
• 1:20:54
  seven thousand. No but that's still a lot.
• 1:20:57
  I would be like 700 or something.
• 1:21:00
  So be like that's crazy very close to he's amazing.
• 1:21:05
  I've seen it happen to people in my network there's a guy he's
• 1:21:09
  been on the show before Calamity Hatcher is a school friend of
• 1:21:13
  mine and he's got to 1,200 subscribers and he's killing it
• 1:21:17
  with the livestreams. He's monetized.
• 1:21:19
  Now he's doing the YouTube thing man.
• 1:21:22
  It's cool to see he deserves He's a good guy but hey I can't
• 1:21:26
  help be envious. It's like ah to be like crazy is
• 1:21:31
  it sort of like what happens is jacksepticeye you know that?
• 1:21:34
  I don't know the story. I know the guy got it you got
• 1:21:37
  it. You gotta shout out from
• 1:21:38
  PewDiePie and his phone was going off every couple of
• 1:21:42
  seconds with a new subscriber. Wow, I think you got up like
• 1:21:48
  either was either 12 or 120,000, but it was different with them
• 1:21:52
  though. Wasn't it?
• 1:21:52
  Like they became Friends or something?
• 1:21:55
  No no he want to Jack, want to shout out, we want to shout out.
• 1:22:03
  Yeah, he won a shout-out? Yeah because PewDiePie PewDiePie
• 1:22:06
  was going to give out like ten shoutouts.
• 1:22:08
  Oh, wow. And they sort of he looked
• 1:22:11
  through the channels and he sort of said what I like about Jack
• 1:22:15
  is that you should completely Crazy idiot but he makes good
• 1:22:18
  content. So don't subscribe.
• 1:22:20
  I remember, I remember there was a point where I tried to get
• 1:22:23
  shot. Shouts from KSI because I really
• 1:22:25
  like his content. I've been following him for many
• 1:22:27
  years and I tried genuinely tried, I tried doing like little
• 1:22:31
  mini covers, have his staff at ages, trying to get his
• 1:22:34
  attention and it just never happened.
• 1:22:35
  Because the only way you can really do it is if you get lucky
• 1:22:39
  through like, Instagram will take Taco something or if people
• 1:22:41
  like you on the Reddit. But I just never got noticed at
• 1:22:46
  all, if anything we'll call buried.
• 1:22:47
  People would like hate on it and stuff.
• 1:22:48
  So I do eventually I just gave up and these days I This is what
• 1:22:54
  I wanted to talk to you about when you asked the question
• 1:22:56
  about the upcoming appearances thing.
• 1:22:59
  No a project, sorry, it's really quickly before we get back into
• 1:23:02
  the questions about you. I've been scheduling a lot of
• 1:23:06
  that podcast appearances and trying to do like some sort of
• 1:23:10
  promo I guess for myself, I think you should do the same as
• 1:23:14
  well, man, for yourself, trying to appear on other people's
• 1:23:18
  podcasts or YouTube channels or whatever because it's a great
• 1:23:20
  way to reach out and Promote yourself without actually just
• 1:23:27
  doing the regular, like, publish promote into your own audience
• 1:23:30
  and stuff, you know, like it's a good way to Showcase yourself.
• 1:23:34
  I think and challenge yourself and that's what I'm doing now.
• 1:23:38
  But I've given up on the trying to get shoutouts thing.
• 1:23:40
  It's just so hard to do that and plus getting a shadow can like
• 1:23:45
  completely ruin the channel because also surely, it's a good
• 1:23:51
  thing. Yeah, but if you don't get the
• 1:23:53
  Right audience, it, you know, you need to the person who
• 1:23:59
  shutting you out needs to make the same kind of content as you.
• 1:24:03
  So that's why people who actually subscribe or interested
• 1:24:07
  in that kind of thing. Because let's say it's the most
• 1:24:12
  the, the most common thing that you do is like Vlogs storytime
• 1:24:16
  and podcast will know the museum where they're going to show
• 1:24:20
  musics. The big thing.
• 1:24:22
  Okay. Music then.
• 1:24:23
  So let's say a gaming channel gives you a shout-out.
• 1:24:28
  I mean, unless be not. I've got, I've got a gaming
• 1:24:30
  think. I've got a gaming channel of,
• 1:24:33
  you know. So in theory, they could just
• 1:24:35
  subscribe to that, you know, I love that, that's the thing
• 1:24:37
  about me. I'm a variety channel so there's
• 1:24:39
  a lot of different options. So I kind of appeal to all
• 1:24:42
  different audiences by. I take your point, you're right.
• 1:24:45
  If, if the, if it's the different audience than then,
• 1:24:48
  yes, they're going to work. But then again not people if
• 1:24:50
  they really do not your and they just won't subscribe, doesn't
• 1:24:53
  matter if someone's given you a shower, you know what I mean?
• 1:24:56
  I mean, don't forget a lot of the time when KSI gives people
• 1:24:59
  shout outs, like, not the people that just randomly are asking
• 1:25:03
  for other people. Like there was that guy Tom stop
• 1:25:06
  doing things for the yes. But the point is that they're
• 1:25:13
  different from what he's doing. To some extent.
• 1:25:16
  So like Tom Stockdale and he's a musician.
• 1:25:19
  Care sighs, a musician as well, but like it is different
• 1:25:22
  content, different audience. Like, when people come to the
• 1:25:26
  KSI Channel, mostly they come in there for a laugh or not.
• 1:25:30
  KSI Chad, the second Channel. They come in there for a laugh.
• 1:25:34
  They come in there to have fun, right.
• 1:25:36
  Whereas Tom Stockdale stuff like it's I'm not saying it's not fun
• 1:25:39
  but it's like he's trying to make something of his music and
• 1:25:43
  I mean Any news of been of the people that ksi's shout it out
• 1:25:49
  the again, do very vastly Delight, there's a guy.
• 1:25:52
  He shouted out recently who he's really helped a guy who does
• 1:25:57
  like paradise, I guess parody video a common boy's name is but
• 1:26:01
  he does like how to be here. So I had to be such and such
• 1:26:05
  person and they're really good videos.
• 1:26:07
  I very good quality but it's nothing like anything that JJ's
• 1:26:11
  done. I think maybe maybe back in the
• 1:26:13
  day he did stuff like that but yeah well Glad you did Balaji.
• 1:26:17
  Balaji day Olatunji, you go. Do it will let you date.
• 1:26:21
  Although some G Jr. Is he a junior, huh?
• 1:26:25
  Yeah, that's called a few days. Well, I didn't know that and
• 1:26:28
  something needed. What do you like about living
• 1:26:34
  up? To me asking question and you
• 1:26:38
  interrupted me Gingka? I mean, we don't know.
• 1:26:43
  We don't have to ask ask any more questions about you if we
• 1:26:46
  want to end, it just now. I mean, oh you can.
• 1:26:52
  What do you like do never call me that.
• 1:26:56
  We'll never boy. You kidding me, respect your
• 1:26:59
  elders, mr. Okay.
• 1:27:02
  What do you like about living in the Netherlands?
• 1:27:06
  the culture mostly, I'm just everything about like it's a
• 1:27:11
  beautiful place, it really is. I urge anyone to at least visit
• 1:27:17
  The Netherlands. Because not only is it a nice
• 1:27:22
  place, but the people about most of the, people are quite nice.
• 1:27:28
  Right? But I wouldn't, I wouldn't say
• 1:27:32
  go to Amsterdam milk, because everybody who goes to the
• 1:27:35
  Netherlands, goes down to them. Well yeah, go to Amsterdam but
• 1:27:41
  don't make that like the point of your trip, like don't just go
• 1:27:45
  to apps that I'm going to stay in Amsterdam because that's only
• 1:27:48
  like half what the Netherlands is.
• 1:27:50
  That's the urban side of it where I live.
• 1:27:53
  It's pretty much a rule. So I mean I think you can set up
• 1:27:58
  a most European cities though to be fair.
• 1:28:01
  Yeah, I'd say the same about Talon about Estonia.
• 1:28:04
  I thought if you just go to Thailand a new view, Haven't
• 1:28:07
  seen Estonia at all. You've just seen Talon because
• 1:28:11
  Estonia is not Talan. Talan just Fightin and I'm
• 1:28:15
  Saddam is not the right? Yeah.
• 1:28:17
  Yeah, it's not all it has to offer.
• 1:28:19
  I've heard the same about the Czech Republic as well.
• 1:28:22
  Anyways because also and then Germany comparing comparing
• 1:28:28
  where I used to live in England, which was very herb.
• 1:28:32
  Yeah, even comparing that to this, which is very rural.
• 1:28:36
  Have to say, aye. I like living.
• 1:28:41
  Early in the country. So what do you dislike about the
• 1:28:48
  Netherlands? Oh, what about this?
• 1:28:51
  Like, um, The Holland. It's gonna be.
• 1:28:56
  It's gonna go. Yeah.
• 1:29:01
  Yeah, the kids where I live is like I said, very rural and to
• 1:29:06
  get to one of the biggest cities, it's like 20 minutes,
• 1:29:10
  half an hour, still, not that bad, 20 minutes, I don't know.
• 1:29:14
  So I leave, I leave the house at 8:05 mostly 8:30 and I get the
• 1:29:21
  school at about Quantum, nine. Have asked us know that long.
• 1:29:26
  Let's yeah. But every single day it's just
• 1:29:29
  you know dude try an hour and a half like 45 minutes, 45 minutes
• 1:29:36
  and it's cool. And then like five minutes to
• 1:29:39
  get home, but yeah, I get what you mean, I get what you mean,
• 1:29:42
  that's fair enough, I enjoy, I enjoy the traveling, but on some
• 1:29:46
  days where I don't really, I'm not really in the mood for
• 1:29:48
  travel and its really enjoyable. But you've got to do because You
• 1:29:53
  know, I can't just not go to school and especially in the
• 1:29:56
  Netherlands. You will get screwed.
• 1:29:59
  Would you mean you'll get screwed?
• 1:30:02
  I'm pretty sure if you don't if you if you're late or don't show
• 1:30:06
  up to school like three times for no reason, you'll get a
• 1:30:12
  visit from the appropriate authorities, but hit, I'm sorry.
• 1:30:17
  I'm confused because you finished actual school.
• 1:30:20
  You're in essentially a going to college.
• 1:30:24
  No, I'm not in college. ER, it's called Norville
• 1:30:27
  Collision but it's not a college.
• 1:30:28
  It's okay. Okay, to learn Dutch.
• 1:30:31
  All right. Yeah, I understand that.
• 1:30:33
  But here's here's what, here's what I do, not understand, okay?
• 1:30:37
  In the UK between the ages of 16 to 18, which is where you fall
• 1:30:41
  now, right? Yeah.
• 1:30:43
  The law states that you have to basically go to some form of a
• 1:30:47
  college or some vocational training for at least a year
• 1:30:52
  before you can then start working, right?
• 1:30:53
  That's the law. Yeah.
• 1:30:55
  Okay. I'm not a resident.
• 1:30:58
  I'm not Dutch and the greater London.
• 1:31:01
  I'm a foreigner. Yeah, I understand things kind
• 1:31:04
  of rules. You have to learn Dutch because
• 1:31:07
  now I get that but I just find it interesting that you're kind
• 1:31:12
  of governed in such a manner at that age.
• 1:31:18
  Okay, how can I explain this properly?
• 1:31:21
  Would you like, would you like me to lay it out?
• 1:31:23
  No, no. I understand like, let me
• 1:31:25
  explain what I need to explain first, right?
• 1:31:27
  So when you're in the UK up to the age of 16, right?
• 1:31:31
  It's the law that you have to then basically, what's up?
• 1:31:49
  Okay. Okay.
• 1:31:53
  Just talk to some night news from my trusted assistant.
• 1:31:58
  You go from the absolute latest recording time for this podcast
• 1:32:04
  is 4:00 because Germany is going into lockdown and there's some
• 1:32:07
  things we need before they close the gate, interesting?
• 1:32:13
  Okay, there you go, Germany. Back underneath Germany.
• 1:32:18
  Any Germany is shutting its doors to everything.
• 1:32:23
  Netherlands and Belgium as well. Oh you guys going into full
• 1:32:27
  lockdown to? That's interesting.
• 1:32:29
  Sorry Arnold. Sorry.
• 1:32:34
  Well, I meant to say, was the Netherlands and Belgium on no
• 1:32:37
  longer allowed in Germany. Wow.
• 1:32:39
  Unless unless you work that so Yeah, fair enough.
• 1:32:49
  No more, no more, no more Germany.
• 1:32:51
  Okay, bring it back to what I was talking about.
• 1:32:53
  Anyway, so up to the age of 16. Basically, your parents are
• 1:33:00
  responsible for you going to school.
• 1:33:02
  Therefore, the law will become involved, and potentially your
• 1:33:05
  parents will be prosecuted if you do not go to school.
• 1:33:08
  However, after you finish school, which you have, let 16,
• 1:33:14
  you you finished high school. You finished school in the UK.
• 1:33:19
  Yeah, I finished. Secondary School right.
• 1:33:21
  There you go, right? And this is my little College.
• 1:33:24
  Yeah. Yes.
• 1:33:25
  If you were still in the okay, you're just Read annoying me
• 1:33:28
  here. If you are not annoying you are
• 1:33:31
  because first of all you keep interrupting.
• 1:33:33
  You keep interrupting me which is just rude.
• 1:33:36
  And secondly Let me just finish what I need to say.
• 1:33:40
  Okay, she finished school at 16. If you were still in the UK, you
• 1:33:45
  would have at least a year where you would legally have to study
• 1:33:48
  something, but because you've moved to the Netherlands,
• 1:33:51
  obviously, that does not apply to you.
• 1:33:53
  Now, you've told me that as a foreigner, there is an
• 1:33:56
  expectation placed upon you by law that correct.
• 1:34:01
  Okay. That you have to do this.
• 1:34:02
  So regardless of your age, if it was 1630, you would still have
• 1:34:05
  to do this. Well, it's not so much you have
• 1:34:09
  to do this. It's just It is, it's if you
• 1:34:14
  don't do it, you're pretty stupid.
• 1:34:16
  Why would you not tell us not? If you're living in the
• 1:34:18
  Netherlands? Well, I mean, there's a lot of
• 1:34:20
  people that go to other countries that huge when you
• 1:34:24
  enroll in a school. That's cool.
• 1:34:27
  Expects you to show up on time to do what you're supposed to
• 1:34:32
  do. Hmm, until leave within the
• 1:34:36
  time. So I need to go to school and
• 1:34:39
  need to be at school on time. You go home.
• 1:34:43
  Not earlier than schools finish. It's basically the same as going
• 1:34:49
  to work. You go you show up to work on
• 1:34:51
  time. You leave on time don't leave
• 1:34:54
  earlier. You don't get there later and if
• 1:34:57
  you if you don't show up for a given reason if you don't notify
• 1:35:03
  the school of you being of you being absent for a reason, If
• 1:35:09
  you don't do that, I think it's three times.
• 1:35:13
  You will be visited by either. I don't like the police or
• 1:35:16
  something. I, yeah, I just find that
• 1:35:18
  element interesting. That, that to me is very
• 1:35:21
  interesting that you'll find even though you're of legal age,
• 1:35:23
  I guess it's just different in the Netherlands because I think
• 1:35:25
  in the UK, you wouldn't get fined or because I'm going to
• 1:35:29
  school. Okay, you need to either have a
• 1:35:34
  job or be in school at my age. If you're not, if you're not
• 1:35:40
  doing either, Then that sort of lies that sort of lies within
• 1:35:47
  like breaking the law, because you're required by law to be at
• 1:35:51
  school, or to have a job at my age.
• 1:35:55
  Interesting, when do you turn, when do you turn 17 10th of
• 1:36:00
  February in for February? Wow,
• 1:36:16
  okay, so if you haven't attended school or had a job between 16
• 1:36:22
  and 18 and you don't have a job from 18, the government will not
• 1:36:27
  pay you Learning something new, fair enough.
• 1:36:32
  So I guess what I'm trying to say is stay in school, get a
• 1:36:39
  job, stop being childish. Good message.
• 1:36:45
  What did Dutch people? Think of British people?
• 1:36:49
  What the Dutch people think of British people.
• 1:36:51
  Hmm. They like us, we helped save
• 1:36:58
  them from Germany, okay? And this actually reminds me of
• 1:37:03
  something that happened at school.
• 1:37:04
  This week. There was some Dutch girls
• 1:37:07
  coming to our school, to go to the gym because the vmb.
• 1:37:12
  Oh, that's near our school doesn't have its own gym.
• 1:37:14
  How are you? You are you are boys.
• 1:37:16
  Only College them or something? No we're not a boys-only
• 1:37:19
  college. It's by sorry, it's unisex.
• 1:37:24
  Okay. It's obviously too cold for them
• 1:37:27
  to spot outside, so they use our gymnasium that's on our, on our
• 1:37:32
  grounds. It's a different School than
• 1:37:34
  basically. It's it's sort of in the same
• 1:37:39
  car park, but one is like, it's a s car which is, I've
• 1:37:47
  completely forgot what that means.
• 1:37:48
  But it's a, it's a language school.
• 1:37:51
  Okay? And the VM deal is where the
• 1:37:54
  Dutch resident kids, go, okay, mostly.
• 1:38:00
  And I was talking to my friend, No speaking English.
• 1:38:05
  And one of the girls said, asked me if I was English.
• 1:38:09
  Yeah, yeah. And then, they just both they
• 1:38:12
  all start. Oh.
• 1:38:14
  So I guess it's kind of weird. For an English person to be in
• 1:38:20
  the Netherlands, but that's interesting.
• 1:38:23
  Yeah, overall I think the impression that the British
• 1:38:26
  people have on The Duchess positive, I actually add to this
• 1:38:30
  as well. I kind of feel like it depends
• 1:38:32
  on who you talk to because a lot of people when I was in Estonia
• 1:38:35
  kind of you know, didn't bat an eyelid, it was like your
• 1:38:38
  Foreigner. Yeah, whatever.
• 1:38:40
  Right. But there were some people that
• 1:38:42
  were like your English and your here.
• 1:38:46
  Like there were a lot of people there.
• 1:38:47
  Yeah. Seriously though I love hey, you
• 1:38:49
  hear. Ya know.
• 1:38:50
  There were a lot of people that kind of were like, why would you
• 1:38:52
  not be in the UK? It's better there and I think
• 1:38:55
  it's relative, it really depends on what you need.
• 1:38:58
  Like I think I would agree with them as far as like Services a
• 1:39:02
  concern. Like the welfare state stuff
• 1:39:03
  like that. But as far as that quality of
• 1:39:05
  life and living is concerned, I think it really depends on the
• 1:39:09
  situation. You're in your employment.
• 1:39:12
  You need to be doing something. It's hot.
• 1:39:15
  It's like, it's like a reputation thing for the
• 1:39:17
  Netherlands. You have to be Doing something
• 1:39:19
  you have to be benefiting the country and at least a certain
• 1:39:23
  way. I think that's fair.
• 1:39:25
  Yeah, you got a bunch of you living here, completely
• 1:39:27
  unemployed. Yeah, you have to you have to be
• 1:39:30
  a productive member of society. That's knows what not.
• 1:39:33
  But I would not be surprised if like like like that lets say I
• 1:39:38
  dropped out of school. I didn't get a job.
• 1:39:41
  I didn't do it. I would not be surprised if they
• 1:39:42
  deported me. I would.
• 1:39:44
  Yeah I wouldn't be surprised at all.
• 1:39:46
  How long did you how does it work for your Visa?
• 1:39:50
  Like in like how long do you have?
• 1:39:53
  Yeah, me and my dad have something called this easy.
• 1:39:59
  Each pass, okay? Seaside sword pass that sort of
• 1:40:03
  like grants us residents here. I suppose indefinite then can
• 1:40:09
  you explain in that case? Is that is health insurance but
• 1:40:15
  what keeps us here? White.
• 1:40:19
  How will we allowed to be here? Okay, so we have a residence
• 1:40:37
  permit but that's only because of brexit before brexit, we
• 1:40:42
  didn't need anything to like Allow our being here, okay?
• 1:40:49
  So it sounds similar to what you have in the, in Estonia, in the
• 1:40:52
  sense that presumably you have the residence permit for a
• 1:40:56
  number of years or months and you have to continuously renew
• 1:40:59
  it. So every time the government
• 1:41:00
  will look at your situation and will decide whether or not
• 1:41:03
  they're going to continue to grunt you residents.
• 1:41:07
  Yeah. So are we are we granted
• 1:41:09
  residence like Yoli or Okay.
• 1:41:25
  So, because my dad's lived here for longer than five years.
• 1:41:28
  Mmm, we got it pretty much immediately.
• 1:41:31
  And, I mean, I did too, because obviously my dad some, but yeah,
• 1:41:39
  it gets like renewed every five years.
• 1:41:42
  Yeah. So case they just sort of decide
• 1:41:45
  about how because my dad works in Germany.
• 1:41:49
  But yeah, girl. So I'll see how is he going to
• 1:41:55
  work with if there's a lockdown in Germany?
• 1:41:57
  Then is he going to do it remotely?
• 1:41:59
  No, you can. You can work in Germany Kyle.
• 1:42:02
  So they'll still let your lab in Germany to work.
• 1:42:04
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:42:05
  It's interesting. He's okay.
• 1:42:09
  Okay. Moving it Forward.
• 1:42:10
  What do you think of your biggest strengths?
• 1:42:15
  My strengths. Yeah, in terms of, in terms of
• 1:42:18
  what just in general, in life, in life, I know it's a
• 1:42:26
  difficult, very I'd say one of my most notable positives is I
• 1:42:33
  say what I'm thinking? Yeah, it's not, it's not handy
• 1:42:36
  and every scenario but If I don't like something, I'll say
• 1:42:41
  it. I want to just I will be like
• 1:42:44
  pushed around if that makes sense.
• 1:42:46
  Mmm, if I don't like something else, say something about it.
• 1:42:50
  Laughing up. Got that from my dad.
• 1:42:52
  I think because he's very down-to-earth as well.
• 1:42:55
  Hmm. What if you if you don't again,
• 1:42:58
  this is some advice if you don't like something not saying
• 1:43:02
  anything about it won't help anyone.
• 1:43:05
  Yeah, of course you're completely, right?
• 1:43:09
  The only way to change something, is to say something,
• 1:43:12
  you hit that Ranger. What do you think your biggest
• 1:43:15
  weaknesses? My biggest weaknesses?
• 1:43:20
  I can I have the attention span of a goldfish.
• 1:43:24
  Are you telling me? You're saying that but I'm
• 1:43:28
  sitting here, right? This podcast has been going on.
• 1:43:33
  What? Like, two hours now.
• 1:43:36
  It's it's, it's 20. It's 2:35 where I am.
• 1:43:40
  You started this at about 20 to 22 one.
• 1:43:43
  Something I've been sitting here talking and answering questions
• 1:43:47
  and asking questions. So, yeah, I mean, my biggest
• 1:43:53
  weakness is I'm just joking by the way.
• 1:43:59
  But seriously, one of my biggest problems is concentration and
• 1:44:05
  focus. Then luck.
• 1:44:07
  They're off. I can be tricky.
• 1:44:09
  Sometimes I gather, what would you consider your main goal to
• 1:44:13
  be in life? My main goal in life is to make
• 1:44:17
  something of myself. Fair enough.
• 1:44:22
  Don't do anything stupid, don't forgot.
• 1:44:26
  Don't screw up school. Yeah.
• 1:44:30
  That's got to be one of my biggest.
• 1:44:32
  Things that I need to do one of the hardest tasks that I'm gonna
• 1:44:35
  have to you know overcome but to actually be something in life.
• 1:44:41
  I get that man. Fair enough Fair it's good that
• 1:44:44
  you have that motivation and ambition in life.
• 1:44:46
  I think that's I can only ever be a positive thing and I think
• 1:44:50
  it's important that we all have that, you know, we need to have
• 1:44:53
  goals ambition in life and have something that I'm working
• 1:44:56
  towards time only countdown. You don't get any other time.
• 1:45:02
  True to make the most of what time you have because you can't
• 1:45:08
  tell the future you could. I mean you are, I could not be
• 1:45:13
  here in a week's time. You're just making that was very
• 1:45:20
  how do you say no? You're right.
• 1:45:23
  You're speaking truth. Hold on to that was that was
• 1:45:25
  very blunt but you're completely, right?
• 1:45:27
  I couldn't agree more with that. Absolutely.
• 1:45:29
  Just don't, I mean, I'm guilty of it.
• 1:45:32
  For sure, but don't waste time. Okay, we're done with our
• 1:45:39
  Stills. Thank you very much for that.
• 1:45:41
  I was awesome. Let's move it forward.
• 1:45:45
  So I have written down here. That segment three is a general
• 1:45:48
  Q&A, but you to expected circumstances, we don't have any
• 1:45:55
  questions that Tunes. Actually, you know what?
• 1:46:02
  God, I hate to do this to you and hate to put you on the spot.
• 1:46:06
  No. Okay.
• 1:46:07
  We literally have no questions. There's nothing.
• 1:46:11
  There's nothing funny things. No, I know, I expected that.
• 1:46:14
  And to be fair, I think that I'm happy that we were still, it's
• 1:46:18
  still able to do a show today in general.
• 1:46:20
  I know, I knew, I knew we would be fine.
• 1:46:22
  I just kind of hoped that maybe we'd get a contribution
• 1:46:26
  something. Yeah.
• 1:46:29
  But, you know, it is what it is. You move on.
• 1:46:31
  You, you make. S2 things, you call inaudible.
• 1:46:34
  They one day we'll have a Q&A and we'll have like tens of
• 1:46:37
  thousands. Absolutely.
• 1:46:38
  Yeah I don't doubt it's possible but yeah let's move it forward.
• 1:46:42
  What else do you have in store segment for has been written
• 1:46:46
  down as the best moments of the podcast so far?
• 1:46:50
  So these can be your most favorable favorable moments the
• 1:46:55
  most There's I mean, there's three that stick out for me in
• 1:47:00
  moments if you want this three weeks to cut me.
• 1:47:05
  Miss 33 in particular that stick out for me.
• 1:47:10
  I think the big the biggest one for me was episode 10 when I got
• 1:47:15
  to interview this Estonian musician called Martin good and
• 1:47:19
  gas because he's a real hero of mine.
• 1:47:23
  I absolutely adore his music. I think it's amazing.
• 1:47:29
  And I mean okay yeah he might not be like an International
• 1:47:31
  Celebrity in Estonia. He's a big deal.
• 1:47:33
  He's like one of the best musicians in the country and
• 1:47:37
  he's a celebrity there. You know what I mean?
• 1:47:38
  And I don't doubt that one day, those that band they're called
• 1:47:42
  Miller did they're going to be big around the world, I'm
• 1:47:45
  calling it now. I honestly believe that they're
• 1:47:47
  there, it's not just them as well.
• 1:47:48
  There's a lot of other talented musicians, in Estonia, but I
• 1:47:52
  really feel like he's got something and that they'll go
• 1:47:56
  far and it was a really big deal.
• 1:47:59
  To have them have him, sorry on the show and so early on as well
• 1:48:05
  episode 10. I didn't think it was going to
• 1:48:08
  happen. I reached out to him, I always
• 1:48:11
  reach out to people. I'm always bold with this.
• 1:48:14
  I'm always trying to reach out to anyone that might want to be
• 1:48:18
  on the show even if there's like, no chance in hell that
• 1:48:20
  they'll want to. But, you know, you got to try
• 1:48:23
  and mostly I get ghosted by people.
• 1:48:25
  People just never reply or anything, but he did reply.
• 1:48:29
  By which I was amazed by and he was like, yeah, I'll get back to
• 1:48:34
  you and I was like, oh my God. And then nothing happened for
• 1:48:36
  like a week or week and a half and then I just lost hope.
• 1:48:39
  And then randomly he just messaged me.
• 1:48:42
  I know where he was. Like, yeah, I mean, I've got
• 1:48:44
  some time and I was like, hmm. And like I just just ran around,
• 1:48:48
  scrambling trying to get everything sorted and then we
• 1:48:51
  did the podcast and it went really well.
• 1:48:55
  I think he was impressed by the professionalism and the research
• 1:48:58
  that I done. I really had to remain calm the
• 1:49:03
  whole time, because I was wigging out, I was like, oh my
• 1:49:05
  God. Oh my God, oh my God, this is
• 1:49:07
  amazing. But I kept it together and we
• 1:49:10
  did the podcast, and I think it turned out really well, and I'm
• 1:49:12
  proud of it. Other podcasts I'm proud of.
• 1:49:17
  I mean, I'm proud of all of them.
• 1:49:19
  If I'm honest. They're all really, really good.
• 1:49:22
  Yeah, my answer would be for the best moments of the podcast so
• 1:49:25
  far. I know it's not really very
• 1:49:29
  specific but I've just enjoyed my time being part of the
• 1:49:35
  podcast, like there's no moments where I notably went.
• 1:49:40
  That's, that's great. Yeah.
• 1:49:42
  Because every minute, every hour that I've been on a podcast on
• 1:49:48
  this one, cast his been memorable because either the
• 1:49:53
  been some really funny moments that have happened like yeah.
• 1:49:57
  Like literally couldn't stop laughing or don't start.
• 1:50:05
  Yeah, right notion touching moment.
• 1:50:10
  We're having a touching moment right now?
• 1:50:12
  Or yeah, or touching moments, but I've just got to say I've
• 1:50:16
  just enjoyed my time on the podcast and here's two More
• 1:50:21
  moments of the podcast where we can make memories and enjoy what
• 1:50:26
  we've done. No, I appreciate you being a
• 1:50:30
  part of it, man, I wouldn't have reached out to you.
• 1:50:32
  If I didn't think, you know, because I'll be honest, I'd took
• 1:50:36
  a chance on you. I thought, you know, because
• 1:50:38
  you're not the only guest I've had on regular that I've had
• 1:50:41
  chemistry with right. But I knew that we're very
• 1:50:44
  similar minded in many ways I'm very impressed by how motivated
• 1:50:49
  you are at such Young age. I think that's what impresses me
• 1:50:53
  the most and you know, I mean this isn't like a big deal in
• 1:50:57
  the sense that, you know, I'm not some like big YouTube, a big
• 1:50:59
  success so but like I feel, I thought if nothing else you'd
• 1:51:03
  enjoy it and we'd have fun and I think that always happens.
• 1:51:07
  So that's good. You know, and I enjoy working on
• 1:51:09
  projects with you, to be honest, you know?
• 1:51:11
  Like when you sent me your stuff through for the chase, for
• 1:51:13
  example, I was really impressed, you know?
• 1:51:16
  I mean, you put effort into it, it was good and I've produced It
• 1:51:20
  into something that I'm proud of as well.
• 1:51:22
  So, I like that. I like that your professional.
• 1:51:25
  And you treat it seriously. And, you know, obviously we have
• 1:51:28
  a laugh, we have fun, but you still take it seriously.
• 1:51:31
  And I think that that's something that means a lot to
• 1:51:33
  me. So that's why I reached out to
• 1:51:35
  you and stuff. And yeah, man.
• 1:51:37
  Too many more episodes are the strongest part of what makes,
• 1:51:42
  what makes us such a good pair, isn't some great our like
• 1:51:47
  like-minded chemistry. Yeah, right.
• 1:51:49
  Yeah we can. Can have our, you know, a little
• 1:51:52
  funny moments and funny clips that we make like the divorce.
• 1:51:58
  I don't know how. I don't know how that's funny.
• 1:51:59
  That's actually heartbreaking but this wench don't call me a
• 1:52:05
  wench. I'm bringing it.
• 1:52:08
  But yeah we can we can also come away from the funniness and go
• 1:52:15
  back on topic. It's just we're very like-minded
• 1:52:19
  and as easy easy peasy to to make a podcast for someone who
• 1:52:25
  someone who you have such good chemistry with.
• 1:52:29
  So yeah, I guess it's just easy to do making the podcast but if
• 1:52:34
  I was with someone else I don't think it would be as it's just
• 1:52:37
  different different chemistry in it.
• 1:52:39
  I mean yeah. Some people you click with some
• 1:52:41
  people, you don't? It's just, that's just that's
• 1:52:42
  it, that's chemistry. Yeah.
• 1:52:45
  I also really enjoyed gone. What's going on?
• 1:52:51
  You said something. My dad's chiming in, with one of
• 1:52:56
  his jokes, it's nice that we're back together.
• 1:52:59
  I mean, it's a trial separation separation at this point, I'm
• 1:53:07
  working on getting a restraining order.
• 1:53:09
  Good. I'll keep you as far away as
• 1:53:13
  possible from my assets, that works for me very well.
• 1:53:16
  Well, that's the other thing I didn't tell you about.
• 1:53:25
  Never did have to have the shits, Mandy way back to see the
• 1:53:29
  schedule handu head for the house back back to the point.
• 1:53:33
  So yeah, my other favorite podcast moments probably
• 1:53:37
  includes. I really enjoyed when I had John
• 1:53:42
  John Lannan on the podcast and John John Lannan and he he was
• 1:53:49
  he was great because he shared some stuff that I wasn't
• 1:53:51
  expecting him to share some like really deep stuff.
• 1:53:55
  And that was like, wow, okay. That it kind of he you could
• 1:54:01
  tell. It's not stuff that he normally
• 1:54:02
  shares but it was a big deal for me to have something like that,
• 1:54:05
  you know, especially from from a very funny, kind of chirpy
• 1:54:09
  chappie Lala positive guy, he was showing some very serious
• 1:54:11
  and I thought, wow, like thank you so much.
• 1:54:13
  You know, so that was a really big moment, other times, you
• 1:54:17
  know, it'll just be little things.
• 1:54:19
  I like the fact that when I can get a guest on and I can tell
• 1:54:23
  they're nervous or they're not, you know, Completely comfortable
• 1:54:27
  but then I kind of help them open up.
• 1:54:29
  I always like that that's seems to me like to be a real
• 1:54:32
  achievement with the podcast and something.
• 1:54:35
  I always really strive to do with every guest.
• 1:54:37
  I want to try and get them to feel as comfortable as possible
• 1:54:40
  and open up as much as possible. So that's a real good.
• 1:54:43
  Maybe you could find a job that sort of Taylor's to that.
• 1:54:46
  Now I don't want to put up enough.
• 1:54:48
  I don't want to do that. I want to do what I'm doing
• 1:54:50
  right now. For 11:00.
• 1:54:52
  I decided, I don't want a nine to five job.
• 1:54:55
  I've done that. I've been there done that got
• 1:54:57
  the T-shirt. That's not me.
• 1:54:58
  That's not what I like doing. I'll do it.
• 1:55:00
  If I have to, I'll do it. If I have to, for to make money,
• 1:55:04
  you know, but I won't do it because I enjoy it because he'll
• 1:55:07
  know you've got to gravitate towards what you enjoy in life.
• 1:55:10
  Otherwise you're just not getting the most out of it.
• 1:55:13
  Simply? Yeah, but enhance traffic, is
• 1:55:16
  there anything else? Otherwise Top Cop podcast
• 1:55:19
  moments I was really cool. Having Emma Hirsch who's the
• 1:55:24
  owner of? Big leads.
• 1:55:26
  So free Dance Company in Manchester for me enough.
• 1:55:30
  That was a challenge for me because it was a business and,
• 1:55:33
  you know, I'd service products. So I had to kind of obviously
• 1:55:37
  treated professionally as always normally would, but I had to
• 1:55:42
  think about like, how can I best put over her business and still
• 1:55:45
  kind of have this makes sense within the context of what I
• 1:55:48
  normally do and it worked. And I've got other people that
• 1:55:52
  are going to appear on the podcast in the future that have
• 1:55:54
  businesses as well. Also we're evolving, we're doing
• 1:55:57
  different things and I like the fact that the podcast can kind
• 1:56:00
  of, you know, you can have yeah, you can have more fun guests
• 1:56:05
  where it's just having a laugh. You can have really serious
• 1:56:07
  guests whatever like that it caters to all or not.
• 1:56:10
  I like that. That's what something I'm really
• 1:56:12
  trying to achieve for the podcast and it's happened, very
• 1:56:14
  organically, your podcast is very diversity, friendly.
• 1:56:20
  I thought I would think so. I tried to be tuned and I mean,
• 1:56:24
  I would never want to Would anyone?
• 1:56:26
  That's for sure? I always try to kind of, think
• 1:56:29
  about like, what can people relate to, you know what I mean?
• 1:56:33
  Because he's different reminded me of my old schools model
• 1:56:36
  Beyond. It was unaware.
• 1:56:38
  It was on our jumpers and on the sort of shoulders of our shirts,
• 1:56:44
  value, diversity and strive for excellence.
• 1:56:49
  Value diversity strive for excellence.
• 1:56:51
  I mean, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:56:53
  I mean, look the I always want my podcast to be for everyone,
• 1:56:57
  you know, it's not intended for any specific person or people
• 1:57:01
  it's for everyone, you know, obviously anyone can appear
• 1:57:05
  anymore can watch. Yeah, well no, I mean that tell
• 1:57:08
  you don't get me wrong. Like, when it comes to anyone
• 1:57:10
  can appear like I don't want anyone that's like hateful know
• 1:57:14
  anything to anyone who's taken it.
• 1:57:15
  Seriously. Tonight it's all about.
• 1:57:20
  It's more about having people who aren't hateful, who are you?
• 1:57:26
  No, no, no, no. That's that's that's what I
• 1:57:28
  mean. People who are seriously going
• 1:57:30
  to like Well, that's different fast it on.
• 1:57:36
  He being serious and professional is different from
• 1:57:38
  being whether or not you're a hateful person.
• 1:57:40
  It's a completely different thing.
• 1:57:41
  No, no. What I mean is a hateful person,
• 1:57:45
  like let's say he, he says that he wants to come on and like,
• 1:57:49
  you know, talk about this and that but he comes on.
• 1:57:54
  And they just completely decides the ruin the podcast.
• 1:58:00
  Well, that's something entirely different.
• 1:58:02
  That's again, you're talking about professionalism, that's
• 1:58:05
  different. What I'm talking about is I'm
• 1:58:07
  not going to promote like hate or like anything like that my
• 1:58:10
  podcast. So that's where I would draw the
• 1:58:13
  line in terms of like, having anyone on the podcast.
• 1:58:16
  So for example, I've had someone on Greta Murray, who said some
• 1:58:20
  controversial stuff and it made me think like, I think in the
• 1:58:23
  future. Really have to think about like
• 1:58:25
  who I have on here and what they say in stubborn In fairness, you
• 1:58:29
  know, she let me challenge her. She was reasonable the whole
• 1:58:32
  time and she never went on like a tire Aid or anything, but she
• 1:58:36
  said some stuff about, like homosexuality that wasn't cool.
• 1:58:41
  And I I receive some comments from friends of mine, you know,
• 1:58:45
  a fellow content creators that will I you should have
• 1:58:47
  challenged this more and I was like, is that my role?
• 1:58:51
  Is it not? I guess it is.
• 1:58:52
  It wasn't a debate that was Posed to be about that
• 1:58:55
  specifically. But it's an important thing to
• 1:58:57
  think about we know anything. And it's an important thing to
• 1:59:00
  think about, you have to think about who you're promoting
• 1:59:03
  because it's my decision to have her on the podcast.
• 1:59:05
  So I have to go. Nowadays, it's 2020, almost 20
• 1:59:12
  21. People can be essentially
• 1:59:16
  whatever they want to be. I mean, up to an extent, I mean
• 1:59:21
  with it. But the whole point is that, if
• 1:59:25
  You have to, if you can be anything you want to be use?
• 1:59:27
  Yeah, like I, I support people's different views and stuff, but
• 1:59:32
  there's a difference between supporting people's views,
• 1:59:36
  however, conflicting, they may be and then just promoting hate
• 1:59:39
  June. And I mean like you can have an
• 1:59:41
  opposable thumbs up for your views as though as well.
• 1:59:44
  Because like you said, yours. Yours and okay.
• 1:59:50
  Let me, let me make, let me make it really simple for you like
• 1:59:53
  much easier than what I'm getting at, right?
• 1:59:55
  If someone is just whatever. If someone is hateful, if
• 1:59:59
  someone says like X, the next thing about, I don't know whose
• 2:00:03
  sexuality or race or something like that.
• 2:00:07
  Then as a society, we collectively decide like, you
• 2:00:11
  know, we do not support this, we do not like this.
• 2:00:15
  So, I'm not going to, I'm not going to have people like that
• 2:00:17
  on my show for that reason, Jen. And I mean, like, I think about
• 2:00:21
  that more more and more. Now, you know, that happened
• 2:00:25
  Wilson, open-minded people. Yeah, I tried, I mean, but
• 2:00:29
  that's, that's what I'm trying to say.
• 2:00:30
  Like I I'm for having anyone on the show, but I'm against
• 2:00:34
  promoting anything hateful at all, in any shape of it.
• 2:00:37
  Like, if I had something like that happen, I just wouldn't
• 2:00:40
  have it on the show in future. You know, I learnt from that
• 2:00:43
  Greta Murray. And that's the main thing.
• 2:00:46
  I learned like, even though she wasn't like a hateful person,
• 2:00:49
  she said that one thing that You know, I go back and forth on
• 2:00:54
  because like, it's part of her religion to stand now.
• 2:00:58
  Oh, we're fine, obviously. But like she said, that thing in
• 2:01:02
  the context of that, what she believes with her religion, and
• 2:01:06
  that's why I didn't challenge it like hugely.
• 2:01:09
  And because it wasn't a debate on, like homosexuality was a
• 2:01:12
  debate. It wasn't even a debate.
• 2:01:13
  It was just a small section of a long interview.
• 2:01:16
  We just happened to be talking about her beliefs, like I asked
• 2:01:19
  her about her beliefs and that was one thing.
• 2:01:21
  She chose to Say, you know, should I have kept out, maybe
• 2:01:27
  maybe not, you know, I mean there's lots of questions raised
• 2:01:29
  but now moving forward, I'm going to be a lot more careful
• 2:01:32
  and it comes to feel like I feel like you shouldn't, you
• 2:01:34
  shouldn't clip it out because that's her believe she decided
• 2:01:37
  to say that she decided to open up about that.
• 2:01:39
  It's hang of it, don't forget, I got I got a YouTube hit me out.
• 2:01:45
  Like I got a clip banned from YouTube for the same reason.
• 2:01:50
  Hmm. Okay.
• 2:01:51
  Well in that case, So if it's going to conflict against
• 2:01:54
  YouTube's terms of service, then you've got a, you've got to take
• 2:01:57
  appropriate action. It's not like you've got to,
• 2:02:01
  you've got to let people say what they think, but then you
• 2:02:04
  sort of have to tell them. Look what you just said, it goes
• 2:02:08
  against. You should rules.
• 2:02:09
  And therefore we I mean I heard I heard your point of view and
• 2:02:16
  you've been you've been heard But I can't upload that part of
• 2:02:22
  the podcast. Because, yeah, and this is, this
• 2:02:24
  is why I don't like, because it's like, it's censorship which
• 2:02:28
  is something I'm against, but at the same time, it's like,
• 2:02:32
  promoting hate is what this is. I've spoken about this before
• 2:02:34
  and I don't want to get into a massive discretion about this.
• 2:02:36
  Now we can save that for the rock and a hard place, really,
• 2:02:41
  we can save it to do it as a topic one day, but like the
• 2:02:45
  small thing I'll say about it, especially because the next
• 2:02:47
  segment is Final segment is the future of the podcast.
• 2:02:50
  Moving forward, I won't be having similar guests on where
• 2:02:56
  they have these kind of views because it's like, if I have
• 2:03:00
  them on the show it's like I'm supporting that, you know?
• 2:03:02
  I mean it's I don't support that personally, you know, I mean,
• 2:03:05
  it's such it's so difficult because it is it is bad but
• 2:03:11
  Center and people's views religious or not?
• 2:03:14
  Is that is that worse? I think yes or no because you
• 2:03:18
  got to look at What the collective Society thinks and
• 2:03:20
  feels like, if we as a society. Like, for instance, we're all
• 2:03:24
  against like, Nazis, for example, why we don't support
• 2:03:26
  that. If someone says, I support
• 2:03:27
  Nancy's, then you don't support them.
• 2:03:28
  And I put it in the same category, it's like hate.
• 2:03:31
  It's, it's deliberate. Like there are many, for
• 2:03:34
  instance, there are many Christians that, you know,
• 2:03:37
  support homosexuality, or believe in it, or whatever or
• 2:03:41
  are homosexual agenda mean. Like so I don't think it's not a
• 2:03:45
  generic thing that all Christians are like that.
• 2:03:48
  It's it's a personal belief, as a personal choice, kind of
• 2:03:52
  thing, and it's up to the individual person, how they
• 2:03:55
  think and feel. But like, most people tend to
• 2:03:57
  have degree, tend to agree that it's like hateful to think in
• 2:04:00
  that manner. So, and that's kind of where I
• 2:04:03
  sit on as well as. Like I look at like, what's
• 2:04:06
  hateful? And what's just someone, having
• 2:04:09
  an opinion on something, you know?
• 2:04:10
  I mean because there is a difference, you can't, you can't
• 2:04:14
  censor them but you have to You have to express your beliefs as
• 2:04:20
  well. Yeah.
• 2:04:21
  So she says I'm not sure what she said because I can't find
• 2:04:26
  any. Haven't ya?
• 2:04:28
  Don't worry that I haven't I haven't seen it.
• 2:04:31
  I haven't heard it but if like you said it was head towards
• 2:04:36
  homosexuality. Yes.
• 2:04:39
  What you had? Well I'm not sure again.
• 2:04:41
  I'm not sure what you said in terms of what I did the issue
• 2:04:44
  was that I didn't challenge enough.
• 2:04:45
  Like I said, like, well I definitely disagree with this.
• 2:04:48
  Yes, but I'm willing to hear you out.
• 2:04:50
  That's basically what I said. What.
• 2:04:53
  Yeah. Okay.
• 2:04:55
  In that case I myself would have challenged to the bit more.
• 2:05:01
  Yeah but again we did not completely bowled over.
• 2:05:03
  Yeah this is the thing. It wasn't a debate it will.
• 2:05:06
  If it was a debate on that topic then I would have done that but
• 2:05:09
  because it was with a just full-on head like, yes.
• 2:05:19
  And no, it was her personal belief.
• 2:05:21
  Like, I don't want to go into long kind of like conversation
• 2:05:24
  about this, but like, because we're pressed for time, but it
• 2:05:29
  was a hateful comment that she said that she believes as part
• 2:05:35
  of her religion. Okay?
• 2:05:37
  Now, it wasn't part of a debate, a full-on debate.
• 2:05:41
  If it were, I would have challenged it more, we would
• 2:05:43
  have had an actual full on debate about it, right?
• 2:05:47
  It was a small comment in a large three hour interview where
• 2:05:51
  we got onto the topic of her religion.
• 2:05:54
  And the reason that her religion is important is because she's a
• 2:05:56
  born again, Christian. So that's why it was she didn't
• 2:05:59
  used to be like that was completely different.
• 2:06:01
  So, that's why we were talking about that and why I brought it
• 2:06:04
  up, but I didn't ask her about that.
• 2:06:08
  I didn't ask her at all. She said, hey, I believe this
• 2:06:11
  thing. She chose to say.
• 2:06:13
  Yeah. She's like, hey, I believe this
• 2:06:15
  thing and I was like, okay, what?
• 2:06:16
  I You know, disagree with those I said I have like homosexual
• 2:06:20
  friends but blah, blah blah. I'm completely against this but
• 2:06:25
  yeah I want to hear why you think the way that you think and
• 2:06:28
  then she explained it. She didn't say anything like
• 2:06:30
  hateful past that she explained why she has that thought.
• 2:06:33
  And I said well and I then I started challenging that if you
• 2:06:36
  listen to the clip or that segment you hear me challenging
• 2:06:40
  and finding inaccuracies in what she's saying and then I suppose
• 2:06:47
  was pretty much a debate at that point and then we just trailed
• 2:06:50
  off into another topic and that's right.
• 2:06:52
  I could I could talk about religion for ages but that's not
• 2:06:58
  what this this ever swords about.
• 2:07:00
  No, and that's why I want to move on because, you know, we
• 2:07:03
  can, we can do, we can do this another time.
• 2:07:05
  But, like the point behind this is that moving forward in the
• 2:07:09
  future of this podcast, I will always be extra vigilant who I
• 2:07:13
  have on the show what they say. And if Beyond might click things
• 2:07:18
  out here and now if I deem it to be like hateful, you've got to
• 2:07:21
  follow. You've got to follow the terms
• 2:07:23
  of service at the end of the day.
• 2:07:24
  Yeah, I don't want to alienate anyone.
• 2:07:26
  It's not just about YouTube, it's about you know when I had
• 2:07:29
  people reach out to me that my friends that were saying this it
• 2:07:32
  made me think like you know it's not it.
• 2:07:36
  They won't even saying that I was supporting it, they were
• 2:07:39
  just saying, I should have challenged him more and it made
• 2:07:41
  me think and that's why I've revised how I think about it in.
• 2:07:45
  Anyway, let's move on to something.
• 2:07:47
  Positive, shall we? Yeah, okay.
• 2:07:49
  So as we spoke about that for ages and I don't want to waste
• 2:07:54
  any time on, what is a 50th episode is a big deal.
• 2:07:58
  This doesn't happen every day. So long, I've got a headache.
• 2:08:02
  Okay, so future looking forward, looking forward, I am going to
• 2:08:09
  appear more and do contribute more to your episodes and maybe
• 2:08:16
  even Read my own episodes. For example, let's say I appear
• 2:08:22
  and we talk about actually no I'm not going to I'm not going
• 2:08:25
  to say too much because I'm going to give away any future
• 2:08:28
  topics. But yeah let's say we talked
• 2:08:31
  about Coffee you never talk about coffee.
• 2:08:37
  I would lead said podcast. Episode Pusher yeah ask the
• 2:08:43
  questions. Do the research.
• 2:08:45
  Yeah I'm happy for the Dynamics of change on those episodes man.
• 2:08:48
  I mean especially since like I fully take the lead in my
• 2:08:52
  interview episodes and obviously the solo ones I do, like I'm
• 2:08:55
  happy for you to take the lead in those.
• 2:08:57
  I think it offers an interesting Dynamic, it's something a bit
• 2:08:59
  different, some weight off your shoulders.
• 2:09:03
  That's true. I don't mind.
• 2:09:05
  I mean, I'm still going to have to do research regardless
• 2:09:07
  anyway, so it doesn't really change how much work after
• 2:09:10
  putting, but yeah, I think it's fun.
• 2:09:12
  If anything for people listening and watching, I think it would
• 2:09:14
  be nice to just hear something different, you know, different
• 2:09:17
  voice, different leader. It's just something different.
• 2:09:20
  I think that's what I want to offer.
• 2:09:21
  Moving forward is something different.
• 2:09:23
  And I also to a to add on to this with these topics that I
• 2:09:31
  would have originally have just done myself.
• 2:09:33
  I'm Might still do them myself here and there especially when
• 2:09:36
  for instance, you're not available.
• 2:09:38
  But I think for the most part, I want to do them with you because
• 2:09:41
  it's fun to hear people talk about a topic debate it.
• 2:09:45
  Whatever the case may be, I find that that's a bit more.
• 2:09:47
  They have their own views, they can comment as well.
• 2:09:50
  Yeah. Like if we if we had if we
• 2:09:52
  disagree massively on coffee, then that would be interesting
• 2:09:54
  to hear about it. I highly doubt.
• 2:09:57
  There's many people who disagree on coffee about, I like it.
• 2:10:01
  I don't like it. That's a good point, yeah, okay.
• 2:10:10
  What else? I mean, I'm going to continue
• 2:10:14
  trying to find guests. I've had different opinions on
• 2:10:19
  how the podcast should be structured.
• 2:10:22
  You know whether it should be one a week or several week.
• 2:10:25
  I'm just going to do what I've always done.
• 2:10:27
  I'm never going to have a specific day.
• 2:10:30
  It's just going to be as and when I'm going to aim to Try and
• 2:10:33
  do it every week, but, you know, if it doesn't happen, it doesn't
• 2:10:36
  happen. But I figured there's so many
• 2:10:38
  episodes now and there's so many Clips as well, that I'll be
• 2:10:41
  uploading in the future as well. That's one of the reasons I
• 2:10:44
  don't upload them all at once. I stagger them and put them out
• 2:10:48
  as and when because I feel like I've been putting too much out
• 2:10:50
  in the pot on the channel, not not just podcast stuff, but
• 2:10:53
  other stuff so I'm starting to slow it down a bit more and
• 2:10:57
  stagger it and give people a bit of breathing room.
• 2:11:04
  But I'm still going to like put my foot on the gas pedal and see
• 2:11:07
  what happens. I'm just going to roll with it,
• 2:11:08
  basically, whatever happens happens, you know, I'm always
• 2:11:11
  looking at those subreddits for like podcast guests or I'm
• 2:11:16
  looking in my networks. People, I meet on social media,
• 2:11:19
  you know, people are reach out to, as I always say, I'm always
• 2:11:22
  open to having people on the podcast or even if people just
• 2:11:25
  want to appear and talk about something with me.
• 2:11:27
  I'm open to that to, you know, it's supposed to be it's someone
• 2:11:31
  if someone wanted to appear on the pot.
• 2:11:33
  Is that would include a reason as to why and what they would
• 2:11:36
  want to talk about. Yeah, so if they don't want to,
• 2:11:39
  if it's not like a straight interview that they're trying to
• 2:11:41
  promote themselves or anything, like if they just simply wanted
• 2:11:44
  to just talk to me about something, I'd be up for that.
• 2:11:47
  My why not? It be fun.
• 2:11:49
  You know, it's I'm game for anything with this.
• 2:11:51
  I it's for me it's always about making entertaining episodes
• 2:11:55
  making it interesting each and every week or however often it
• 2:12:00
  is possible to do it and I want every So to be as good as the
• 2:12:04
  last, you know, I don't ever let want there to be an episode
• 2:12:07
  where it's like lackluster or doesn't feel like the effort has
• 2:12:10
  been put in or, or something like that.
• 2:12:12
  I would hate for that. I would hate for anyone.
• 2:12:16
  Yeah, exactly. I want them all to be high
• 2:12:18
  quality as much as possible. So anyway, is there anything
• 2:12:23
  else you want to add to that for the future?
• 2:12:25
  The podcast? Anything hoping, you'll believe.
• 2:12:28
  So. No.
• 2:12:28
  Except I'm going to be P, be appearing.
• 2:12:31
  Hopefully a bit more. Awesome, awesome.
• 2:12:36
  You can expect to see my face and the Apple.
• 2:12:39
  The Apple of Truth over there. Any final thoughts, you want to
• 2:12:43
  lead us with or anything else? No, I've, you know that's
• 2:12:52
  everything I got here. We got through it.
• 2:12:54
  All right. Then amazingly, oh, If you
• 2:12:58
  enjoyed listening to me and Christian talk about the future
• 2:13:04
  of the podcast, and hopefully we answered some of your questions,
• 2:13:10
  if not feel free to comment or yeah.
• 2:13:13
  So if you're watching this on YouTube, you can comment down
• 2:13:16
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• 2:13:18
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• 2:13:21
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• 2:13:34
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• 2:13:43
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• 2:13:48
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