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Where will GIANNIS ANTENTOKOUMPO be traded? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  show. We are now talking to movie
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  director Richie Cam Chum and former 10 year NBA center Greg
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  Odin. What's up, boys?
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  What's going on? Gentlemen, what's going on, man?
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  Thank God for coming on all. Right.
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  Thanks for having us man. And I just want to let everybody
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  know they have a movie coming out.
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  It's called Bust and it's coming soon.
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  First screening will be May 27th in Miami.
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  So if you want to go to the to see the first screening, go meet
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  Greg, go meet Mr. Richie. Ladies and gentlemen, go get
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  your tickets. We might go myself.
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  I mean, I'll be all over the place.
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  I don't know. Anyways, we're very happy to
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  have you guys on it. And Richie, I want to go in with
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  this this conversation with you because how did this come about?
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  I mean, obviously, you know, Greg and the back end of his
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  background. I mean, this guy was going to be
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  one of the greatest centers in NBA history.
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  He was drafted in front of Kevin Durant and then obviously his
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  injury problems. How did this come about?
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  Yeah, that's a great question. I think I have to clarify
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  because I think a lot of people think it's a Greg Oden.
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  I know something like that. I know, but it's not man.
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  It's a, it's a film that is essentially inspired by my
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  playing days. I played growing up and I did a
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  partial walk on a year in college and I was it, you know,
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  that was the end of my, my career.
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  And you know, my, my aspirations were always to play high level
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  college, you know, maybe play overseas or something like that.
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  But, you know, take it, take it as far as I could, because, you
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  know, the game of basketball was my first love and that wasn't
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  the case. And, and I, and I'd always felt,
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  you know, to myself, to the people that believed in me.
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  I mean, my mom, she used to drive 2 hours every day to drive
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  me to school because I went to this private school in the DC
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  area to play ball. And you know the sacrifices that
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  she made, you know, the people around you make a lot of
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  sacrifices when you have a dream.
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  So not only did I feel like I let myself down, I felt like I
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  let down people who love me, who believed in me.
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  And so even though a bust is something you think of with
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  someone like super high expectations, I lost someone
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  like a Greg or somebody like Anthony Bennett.
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  I I personally felt that that I was one, but I was, and when I
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  was writing the movie, I'm like, you know, I always knew I was
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  going to make a movie about basketball and just kind of
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  close that chapter for, for the thing that I loved before
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  filmmaking. I felt like I was kind of being
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  a little disingenuous because I'm like, you know, I feel like
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  this, but I don't actually have to live my life with the
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  perception of being called a bust.
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  And well, I'm sure we'll get to Greg.
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  I think most of us who have followed Greg's career know that
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  when he was on the court, he actually did live up to
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  expectations. So that label is unfair.
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  But I know that what he's, I know that that term is something
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  that he still has to grapple with the same way anybody who
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  gets the bus label placed on them, whether it be via not
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  performing or via injuries or whatever the case may be, right.
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  So when I was writing a movie, I thought I need to include real
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  life characters who can really relate to this to kind of bring
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  the whole thing in. And without giving away too
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  much, I'd actually written several characters and it was
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  going to be like, kind of like this come to Jesus moment where
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  they all kind of come together and say, you know, talk about
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  what that experience is like. And they, they kind of like are
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  there for each other, almost like an, a, a group in a sense.
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  But you know, nobody, nobody responded and a lot of people
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  didn't want to join except for Greg.
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  You know, I, I code emailed him to, you know, to make a Long
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  story short, I, I, I messaged him via code e-mail.
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  I think he was coaching at Butler at the time.
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  And he was really receptive. He responded within like a day
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  or two and we spoke with some people from his team and just
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  talked about what I was trying to do.
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  I think, you know, they wanted to really make sure that it was
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  the right thing for Greg. And I'll let Greg speak about
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  his experience, but from what from what I recall, they just
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  wanted to make sure it aligned with where he was trying to go
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  in his life right now. And I think he saw that I had
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  the right intentions with the movie.
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  Otherwise, I don't believe he would have done the movie.
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  So that's how we got together. And he's been, you know, the
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  best executive producer and partner.
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  Because, you know, as much as I believe in the story, I think
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  when people see that Greg's a part of it, it gives it another.
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  It's another stamp of validity. Like, OK, you've got someone who
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  really went through this experience and they know that
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  we're trying to tell a story to, you know, to, I think speak to
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  that experience that so few people can relate to, but it's,
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  it's, um, but it's important, you know, the same way Le Bron
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  and all the goats are important. On the flip side of that, you
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  know, what we call busts, they're important.
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  They're just as important to me. And so, you know, we wanted to
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  just make a sports story true to the stories that we grew up on,
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  but kind of bring it home today and and, you know, make it
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  personal for me, but also make it broad enough that anybody can
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  kind of see themselves in that story.
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  First of all, I I don't like the word bust.
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  All right, I don't like it. I I think it's disrespectful
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  because if you're a first round pick and you're a number one
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  pick, you're not a bust as far as I'm concerned.
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  He Greg Odin, if you look at his background, he just had a lot of
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  injuries and when he came into the NBA, he was a lot of people
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  thought this guy was going to be explosive.
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  As a matter of fact, if you look at the people that he was
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  compared to Shaquille O'Neal and David Robinson, two guys that
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  are Hall of Farmers superstar players, his ability played for
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  the Buckeyes. I watched him.
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  I, I thought this guy was going to be an absolute slam dunk.
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  And, and Kevin Durant, everybody was saying Kevin or Greg.
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  I said Greg Odin. I was a kid and I said Greg
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  Odin, I'm going after the bigs because at the time bigs were
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  more important than the, the big, the big, big, you know,
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  long shooter. I would, I would have went with
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  the big man. And it's crazy because we have a
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  guy in Quinton Coppols who was a first round draft pick.
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  He was, he was a Jet. The Jets moved up to get him in
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  the first round. And everybody in there knows the
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  background. The Jets always screw up
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  players, always screw up players.
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  I, I, I, it's so crazy because I talk to a lot of people and
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  people watch our show and they're like, you're working
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  with Quinton Coppols. Oh, he's a bust.
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  It's like a bust. What makes him a bust?
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  He played in the NFL for over 5 years.
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  He made a lot of money and he was one of the greatest pass
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  rushers to come out of North Carolina.
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  And you're talking about, I don't know, Lawrence Taylor,
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  Julius Peppers, I mean, as a pretty good players and he was
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  just as good as any one of those guys coming out of North
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  Carolina. So I don't like the word bust,
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  but Greg, I've always looked up to a person like you because
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  you've taken a lot of abuse, a lot of abuse in the past.
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  Everybody speaks, you know, poorly about you because they
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  say, oh, what did he do? What did he do in the NBA?
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  And here's what I would say. It doesn't matter what you did
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  or what you didn't do in the NBA.
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  It's how you got to the NBA. And why don't you tell your
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  journey to the NBA and, and, and why you believe that in your
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  career and what you've done in your career is even more better
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  than people look at you and what you didn't do in your career?
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  Well, I appreciate all that and for having me.
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  But I mean, guys look at the NBA and that's how they look and
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  that's how they measure everybody, you know?
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  And I've only played in 82 games.
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  I did make it to the Finals when I was with Portland.
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  You know, I was one guy, one season to have one of the only
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  20 rebound games. I think it was only like Dwight
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  Howard and Kevin Love that year, maybe one other person, and I
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  started to come into my own before my injuries hit.
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  But if you want me to go back to it, I'm the guy.
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  My first basket in the 4th grade was for the other team and then
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  in the 7th grade I dumped for the first time and then I never
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  turned around because I went from that to three state
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  championships in high school, two time parade, all American
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  McDonald's, all American, two time Gatorade player of the year
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  went to the national championship.
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  You know what, the Ohio State University, you know, and then
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  number one overall pick, which there was only one, I'm one of
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  79 in the history of the world. So when somebody says that, you
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  know, that's my rebuttal, what are you, 1 of 79 in the history
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  of the world at? You know, but I don't like to
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  talk down to people like that. So I appreciate the journey.
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  But I know when I was in the league, when I was on the court,
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  I was able to contribute. It's just after all the
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  injuries, you know, my athleticism, which was a big
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  part of my game, you know, wasn't there no more when I got
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  to the Miami Heat. So that's it.
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  But I'm gonna move on and say this movie I'm happy to be a
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  part of. Richie put a lot of blood, sweat
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  and tears in this. This is his story.
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  I just happen to live it on the other end.
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  But I I'm just very proud to be a part of this project and
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  everything that we're putting out.
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  So we do want people to pop up in Miami, buy some tickets, come
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  see the movie. It's going to be a good time.
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  But it it's a, a real life story.
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  And as Richie says, humanizing, you know, the other guys, we got
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  the goats, but the other guys said that aren't compared or
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  quite on that level is humanizing them.
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  So I want to go to your Ohio State career.
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  You made the finals in O7. You played with Mike Conley,
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  who's had a very good NBA career, is one of the better
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  defensive point guards for 15 years, pretty much at that
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  model, A coach that has kind of gotten forgotten about Ohio
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  State, obviously overshadowed by the football program.
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  What was your career like with the Buckeyes?
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  Well, one, Mike is definitely not a defensive player.
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  He's he's all the 6th 1. You see what they're doing to
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  him in the playoffs now? Nah, you know, he he did get his
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  steal, especially when he was with Memphis.
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  He he was amazing. I'm I'm so happy to and proud to
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  be his friend. He's one of my best friends and
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  I'm happy to see him out there still doing this thing.
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  But when we were at Ohio State, the one thing I like to tell
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  people was in Columbus I was able to be a young man.
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  And that's very rare these days. A lot of these kids are going to
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  schools for a transactional reason just to get the money and
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  get to that next level. But for me, I got to actually
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  enjoy Columbus, OH, I got to go out on Thursday nights to the
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  Nini Paninis is a little campus bar.
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  See, I don't know nothing about that, but I'm smiling right now
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  thinking about those memories, you know, but then then had to
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  be up at 6:00 AM, you know, for a lift on Friday.
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  So I just really appreciate that I was able to be a kid while
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  also putting in the work to get to that next level.
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  It happened a lot faster than it does for most.
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  I live in Columbus, OH now. I just appreciate it.
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  And you know, once you're a Buckeye, you they don't let you
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  go. Yeah.
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  So Richie and great. Thanks for coming on.
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  Rich, I want to start with you first.
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  When you hear the when you heard first heard the word bus, I
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  guess what was that mindset and thought process?
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  And did you initially feel like you were a bus due to the
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  expectation that, you know, your family and, and, and your and
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  your community, how they viewed you in regards to where they
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  expected you to go and things of that nature?
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  And how did you process that once you realized that you
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  weren't going to be able to compete at the levels that you
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  had initially planned to be at? Yeah.
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  That's a great question, Quentin.
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  Again, appreciate y'all for having us on.
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  I always loved talking to especially people that played
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  the game and and even the show being so sports centered.
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  I think you, you guys know, with the media, funny enough, I think
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  without giving away too much about the movie, I think my
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  introduction to the word bust was via sports media, right?
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  I would just see the way people like, I guess we call them
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  talking heads, you know, growing up would just kind of like throw
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  people to the side, right? And maybe I heard a segment.
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  I mean, I was a kid too, you know, thinking about that time,
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  but maybe I might have heard something about Greg.
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  Maybe it was Anthony Bennett, maybe it was Johnny Manziel.
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  I'm also from the DC area, so Freddie, I do.
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  And soccer was a big deal for us, my peoples.
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  We from Cameroon, so soccer. Guy, Freddie.
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  Yeah, man, yeah. So that we, you know, so soccer
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  is a big deal for us from my home country, Cameroon.
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  So I remember him when I was like 10 years old, he was a
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  sensation. And then I would just hear the
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  way like my folks would talk about him, like, yeah, he blew
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  it. You know, I so I think it was
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  the conversations happening, you know, growing up around and
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  playing sports and then watching the media and just hearing the
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  way people sometimes will talk about athletes.
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  I realized, you know, Greg spoke to we talked a lot about what
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  this movie, if we had to boil it down to it, a lot of it is just
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  about humanizing these people. And the opposite of that is just
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  it was so much dehumanization, just so much like, OK, you are
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  not. You did not live up to these
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  expectations. So we were just going to place
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  this label on you. You know, to me, like you say,
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  Errol to me is a very offensive term because it removes all
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  contexts, like, right, Like whether it be injuries or
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  whether somebody had something going on mentally.
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  If you just remove all the context and you just say this is
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  what you are. And it's not even just this is
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  just what you are right now. Like you got to carry that
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  around the rest of your life. And that's how people see you.
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  So I think growing up I just realized, OK, this is the thing.
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  But if I'm being honest, right? Like I didn't personally relate
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  to it because I I never made it to that level.
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  But when I got cut from the team my freshman year, I was like,
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  oh, this hurts. And I remember thinking even on
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  my small scale, right, I never made it to me.
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  But even on my small scale, dribbling the basketball around
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  the neighborhood, I was the kid. I was OK, that kid might, you
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  know, like you might do some with this basketball thing.
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  And so having to go back home or tell folks like, yeah, you know,
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  they they got rid of the Walk on program this year or I'm not,
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  you know, I just remembered the the sinking feeling of folks and
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  you know, that that that cared about me, right?
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  And it's not that they were disappointing me.
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  They were just like, we know how much you cared about this.
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  And I just felt like a loss of identity, to answer your
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  question, quit. And I just felt like, who am I?
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  This is all I've been doing, playing AAU, going to the court
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  every day, waking up at whatever hour to go to practice and then
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  go to school and then go to AU practice, whatever the case may
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  be. I've given everything to this
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  and now it's just going to stop, right?
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  I'm only 19 years old and 20 years old, however, how old I
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  was and the ball is stopping on the ball starts dribbling and,
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  and, and to be honest with you, it was like a year long grieving
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  period where I had to just find myself and figure out what I
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  wanted to do. And what happened is I knew, OK,
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  I finally came to terms with it, you know, like halfway through
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  my sophomore year and I was like, but I still love the game
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  so much. The career path I want to take
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  is out and declared at the time is I want to become a
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  sportscaster. Like I want to be like one of
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  those people that are that that are talking about the games,
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  right? And took a so I declared in
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  communications digital media, but then I took a creative
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  writing class as a part of the program.
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  And, you know, we had to write like a short story.
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  And it just blew my mind. I was like, oh, this is fun.
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  You know, this is I found something that stimulates me
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  almost to the degree, not quite at the time, but almost to the
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  degree that basketball will, when I would just go to the
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  court and get shots up and dream about, you know what, what, what
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  a career could look like playing this game, right?
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  Dream about hitting the last second shot just like every
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  other kid and that class led me into the rabbit hole of starting
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  to make short films starting to make documentaries and I had
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  made all these things I made you know web series short films
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  documentaries I I Co wrote a feature film with a good
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  producer friend of mine and I was just like something is
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  missing. You know something about this
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  chapter. You know, who I was before
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  basketball is missing here. And and as I was writing, the
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  movie actually wasn't called bust at the time.
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  I think it was I didn't even have a title for it.
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  But I realized writing just brought up so many feelings that
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  I had kind of buried underneath where I'm like, you know,
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  basketball, who I, who is who I was in the past.
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  But as I was writing the, the the film, I remembered all those
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  feelings of letting people down. And I was like, no, I think this
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  is the movie. I think the movie is bust
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  because that's what I feel like. I feel like I'm I didn't succeed
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  in this thing that people expected of me.
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  And again, and, and as I was writing it and I was getting
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  close to the end, I realized although I feel this way again,
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  I have to pull in the real life experience.
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  So it started, you know, relatively young me being
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  familiar with the bus term. But as I was writing it, that's
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  when it starts to feel very personal.
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  And I think that's what hopefully, you know, if people
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  think this film is good, what I always view as a good story is
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  something that's able to take something specific, but make it
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  universal as a bust is another word for what people deem as a
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  failure. And then I realized that could
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  apply to sports, that can apply to your personal life, that can
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  apply to anything, right? And so the the film is
• 19:04
  ultimately a personal story of overcoming what people see as
• 19:08
  failure and making peace with your own life.
• 19:12
  Yeah, Greg and the follow up with that I've I've, I've had
• 19:16
  the privilege of, you know, seeing some of the things that
• 19:19
  you've accomplished post these comments in regards to being
• 19:22
  labeled as a bus. Talk to me a little bit about
• 19:25
  how you we're able to actually process, you know, the the media
• 19:31
  outlets and everybody coming at you in this way of considering
• 19:34
  you a bus and overcoming that and then getting into coaching
• 19:37
  and getting into different philanthropical situations that
• 19:42
  you have overall post this. What I was thinking that, you
• 19:48
  know, based on looking at some of your story is you overcame
• 19:52
  like, you know, the depression or the, the, the critics and the
• 19:56
  media attention and then you being labeled as this person and
• 20:00
  just counseling out all the accolades and things that you
• 20:02
  accomplished. How was your mental?
• 20:04
  What was it? What was the breaking point when
• 20:06
  it was like, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to overcome this
• 20:10
  by just being successful in other endeavors?
• 20:15
  Well, to overcome that, that mentally it came with a lot of
• 20:20
  alcohol and a lot of weed because it was definitely very
• 20:24
  demoralizing when you're watching inside the NBA, you
• 20:29
  know, and you just hearing guys talk about you and you can't do
• 20:33
  nothing about it. So definitely a lot of coping
• 20:36
  mechanisms, a lot of time to myself just being depressed, a
• 20:41
  lot of tears. I can admit that I cry
• 20:44
  sometimes, you know, because I, I couldn't do anything about it.
• 20:49
  But really, I, I think it was going back to school that was
• 20:53
  the, the opening thing for me when I realized I was 28 in line
• 20:58
  with all these 18 year olds and I, I just had to pick myself up
• 21:04
  and, and it was crazy because when I went back to school, I
• 21:07
  actually wanted to learn. You know, when we was there at
• 21:11
  first, you know, we was there for a reason.
• 21:14
  We was there to hoop and have fun.
• 21:16
  But it's really weird when you're like sitting up in the
• 21:20
  front row, not because they told you because you really want to,
• 21:23
  you want to be all up in it. You want to ask questions.
• 21:26
  You wanted to learn something that, and that motivated me.
• 21:29
  But I think a big one was when my daughter was born too.
• 21:33
  I look at it as I can't tell my daughter she needs to go to
• 21:36
  school if I'd never got my degree.
• 21:38
  And by doing those things things, it just kind of just
• 21:41
  kind of fell into it like me playing basketball, my mom
• 21:45
  worked 2-3 jobs. So I was just at the Boys and
• 21:48
  Girls Club and I'm just on the basketball court.
• 21:51
  Happened to get tall and good at one point.
• 21:54
  You know, it wasn't like I came in with the mindset of I'm going
• 21:57
  to be the best basketball player out here.
• 21:59
  I honestly just did it and I happen to be good.
• 22:03
  And so that's what happened with me in school.
• 22:05
  You know, I, I was just, I was doing it to I promised my mom I
• 22:08
  was going to get my degree. And then I started working with
• 22:12
  a, a author kind of life coach guy and started trying to find
• 22:17
  my purpose. And I intentionally wanted to
• 22:20
  know who I was because when the game was taken away, you know,
• 22:24
  we all have that who am I outside the game moment.
• 22:28
  And I realized that I love being a mentor.
• 22:32
  I I love helping out the kids. I love speaking to people.
• 22:36
  So right now, you know, I'm, I'm doing public speaking.
• 22:39
  I'm also working with a sports management company based out of
• 22:44
  Florida, Elite Life Consulting, consulting with them on the
• 22:47
  basketball side, helping these kids get to schools, get NIL
• 22:52
  deals. I'm doing the work.
• 22:53
  I'm still teaching financial literacy for a company called
• 22:57
  Edu Core based out of Baltimore. You know, just being able to
• 23:01
  give back that education that, you know, I wish I would have
• 23:03
  had at that time. And, you know, that's that's
• 23:07
  where I'm at right now. I love giving back.
• 23:11
  I love speaking. Public speaking is really where
• 23:14
  my heart is right now, trying to get my story out.
• 23:18
  Just like the bus movie, you know, it's not a basketball
• 23:21
  story. It's a life story.
• 23:23
  And people can learn a lot of things about resilience, you
• 23:26
  know, pushing yourself through when you fail, picking yourself
• 23:30
  back up. You know, that's, that's what
• 23:32
  I'm doing now. And I'm just happy the situation
• 23:36
  I'm in. I would love to get paid more,
• 23:38
  but you know, as we all would. Yeah, the test ain't the same.
• 23:43
  Once you get out, there it is. Not the same, by the way.
• 23:46
  You got to be, you got to be cautious of that because you
• 23:50
  know, when we get done playing, you start you still spending
• 23:52
  like you getting that same check.
• 23:54
  And that's how a lot of guys go broke.
• 23:56
  So I appreciate where I'm at right now.
• 23:58
  I'm happy and I think that's the most important thing about life.
• 24:02
  We are talking to movie director Richie Camtrum and former 10
• 24:07
  year NBA center Greg Godin. They have a movie coming out
• 24:09
  called Bust coming soon. First screening is going to be
• 24:13
  May 27th in Miami. I've got names.
• 24:16
  I'm going to throw you guys names.
• 24:17
  All right. Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf,
• 24:21
  Kwame Brown, all consider busts. All consider busts, but are
• 24:26
  they? Think about it this way.
• 24:29
  Jamarcus Russell made a lot of money.
• 24:31
  Ryan Leaf made a lot of money. Kwame Brown made a lot of money.
• 24:34
  And by the way, you know who drafted Kwame Brown?
• 24:37
  Michael Jordan. Think about it that way.
• 24:40
  And I, the, The thing is, when it comes to bus, I think it's
• 24:43
  bullying. And we, we talk about things
• 24:46
  that people do to try to look better or stronger or tougher
• 24:50
  than somebody, somebody's fat or somebody doesn't look the part
• 24:54
  or something of that magnitude. They're going to pick on you,
• 24:56
  they're going to attack you. So when I look at it, anybody
• 25:00
  that knows my story, I was an athlete.
• 25:02
  I was a very good athlete. I was a hockey player.
• 25:04
  I hurt my knee. I stepped away from the sport.
• 25:06
  And then I never want to get back into the sport because I
• 25:09
  got there was things that happened.
• 25:12
  I didn't sign my letter of intent and I went to a Canadian
• 25:15
  tournament. I hurt my knee and I was on
• 25:17
  crutches for six months. And then when I wanted to get
• 25:19
  back into it, they told me to go F myself pretty much and say you
• 25:22
  got to play be a be a play on player, try out and maybe we
• 25:26
  give you a hassle scholarship and then after the first year
• 25:28
  maybe we give you a full scholarship and maybe 15 years
• 25:31
  of hard work and dedication. This is what you you give to me
• 25:34
  playing United States hockey, junior B, junior A hockey and I
• 25:38
  was playing at a high level at the age of 14.
• 25:41
  To me, it was like I was being brushed under the rug.
• 25:44
  And, and again, I, I don't think of it as a bust.
• 25:48
  I just think of it as a position that you put, I put myself in
• 25:53
  and a lot of people put themselves in and, and, and you
• 25:56
  think derogate, you know, you, you, you think it in, you think
• 26:00
  it in a way where you can't protect yourself.
• 26:02
  You can't put yourself in a position where you can help
• 26:05
  yourself. And that's what I think when I
• 26:07
  look, when I look at the the name Bostor and trying to
• 26:10
  consider a bust a bust. I don't think a bust is a boss.
• 26:15
  I think that you made it to the highest level.
• 26:18
  Think about it in the NBA, how many players play on an NBA
• 26:23
  team? Think about that.
• 26:25
  And then you look at the NFL, there's only 200 and 52150
• 26:29
  players that get drafted every single year.
• 26:31
  And really, if you're not a from the first or fourth round draft
• 26:36
  pick, you're not even making the team you got to you got to work
• 26:39
  your ass to make that team. So I the fact that you were a
• 26:43
  first round draft pick, and I say this to Q all the time
• 26:46
  because me and Q off off air, we go back and forth and I have a
• 26:50
  lot of Jet fans that if you look at the biggest bust in Jets
• 26:55
  history, Hugh is one of those busts, one of the top five
• 26:59
  busts. And I'm like, and I'm looking at
• 27:01
  it. Yeah.
• 27:01
  And I'm looking at it. I'm like, wait a second, This is
• 27:04
  the same guy that sacked Tom Brady, sacked Drew Brees, sacked
• 27:09
  Philip Rivers, I mean, Vernon Gold.
• 27:12
  Just saying that alone. He is not a bus, by the way.
• 27:15
  But that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
• 27:17
  So I don't understand what a bust is.
• 27:19
  So I'm I'm trying to figure out why people call people a bus.
• 27:23
  It's not easy to get to the high level and then when you get to
• 27:26
  the high level, you've got to compete against the best in the
• 27:28
  world. So what is a bust?
• 27:31
  I don't get it. You may.
• 27:32
  Just expectations, man, like at the end of the day, they they
• 27:36
  have they project this expectation on you, you know, I
• 27:39
  mean, and it's just like you're not a good football player or
• 27:42
  not a good pro unless you, you know, at the top of the top.
• 27:45
  So instead of you saying, instead of them looking at your
• 27:48
  game and see how good you are within the game, they'll say,
• 27:51
  oh, but you ain't Jordan or you ain't LeBron or you ain't Tom
• 27:55
  Brady or you ain't Lawrence Taylor.
• 27:56
  Like they can pay you at the top of the top and not recognize
• 28:00
  like what you are actually doing within the game.
• 28:02
  And again, you're competing against the best of the best.
• 28:05
  And then the person that's given the opinion ain't even the best
• 28:08
  at what they're doing. And so that's the other issue
• 28:10
  with it. When it's like, and then we as
• 28:12
  athletes, we can't say nothing because we've become the bad
• 28:15
  guy. And then through media training,
• 28:17
  they teach you how not to respond to basically those
• 28:20
  controversial comments. And we're supposed to be just a
• 28:23
  bigger person and let it. Go and I'll respond to all
• 28:25
  right, you don't you guys don't have to respond.
• 28:27
  I'll respond. Go after yourself.
• 28:29
  That's what I would say I'm. Richie Well, Richie doing it
• 28:32
  too, though. So I think what the you think
• 28:34
  about the movies and the short films and things that nature, it
• 28:36
  gives the athlete a voice to be able to articulate what is
• 28:41
  actually transpiring. Now you get to see me, you know,
• 28:44
  sack Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees and all these
• 28:47
  different players. Now you get to see Greg as a
• 28:50
  getting repaired a year as taking Ohio State to national
• 28:53
  championship as all this double, double machine.
• 28:55
  Like when you get a view and see that from the inside out and not
• 28:59
  just say when I turn on the TV and it's a game on, I seen that
• 29:03
  he had a bad game because you're not you're not seeing what
• 29:06
  happens to that. And a lot of times there's
• 29:08
  there's actually teams that position you improperly that
• 29:12
  allow you not to actually be successful in the in the in the
• 29:16
  NFL or the NBA. And so I think that's another
• 29:19
  accountability that nobody gives credit to.
• 29:21
  If you, if you get into it with a coach and a coach don't like
• 29:24
  you, he can bench you, he can put you out of position, he can
• 29:27
  do anything to you. And we don't really have that
• 29:29
  controlled. And if we do stand up for
• 29:31
  ourselves, it's because now we're tearing, now we a bad
• 29:34
  apple on the team and things of that nature.
• 29:36
  So it's like a lose, lose situation for us until we get
• 29:39
  out and we get meet guys like Richie and Greg and they
• 29:42
  actually set in the platform for us to be able to speak.
• 29:45
  But that's what I mean. Well, LeBron James came from
• 29:47
  high school and everybody was calling him the King before he
• 29:50
  even stepped on an NBA basketball court.
• 29:52
  Did he transform into the King? Yeah.
• 29:54
  He became one of the greatest basketball players of all time.
• 29:57
  What are the possibilities that he he falls flat on his face.
• 30:01
  We've seen that. You mentioned Anthony Bennett.
• 30:03
  Anthony Bennett was the number one pick.
• 30:05
  Nobody thought Anthony Bennett in that draft was the number one
• 30:08
  pick, but the Cavaliers drafted him at.
• 30:11
  Wait wait wait, hold on. Are we not going to talk about
• 30:13
  that? He literally had a double double
• 30:15
  every game in college. Yes.
• 30:18
  Like literally 20 rebounds the game, 15 rebounds the game.
• 30:22
  Nobody can stop him at UNLV. Like when you say that, you say
• 30:26
  Kwame Brown. He was literally the strongest
• 30:29
  man in the NBA. Nobody talks about that.
• 30:32
  Jamarcus Russell, he had the strongest arm coming out that
• 30:35
  class, right? Ryan Leaf was a beast in
• 30:39
  college. A freaking beast.
• 30:42
  You know that they put this stuff on them, but they don't
• 30:44
  talk about why they was drafted at that level.
• 30:47
  As Q just said, it's about everybody else's expectations.
• 30:51
  And they put us in this certain type of box.
• 30:53
  Like they're talking down on LeBron and he averaged 22 at 41
• 30:58
  or 42. Like they talking about the down
• 31:01
  year. It's like, come on now.
• 31:03
  And then they just to piggyback on Jamarcus Russell, you talking
• 31:06
  about a guy that didn't know where his next meal was coming
• 31:09
  from to a guy the next day having 20, thirty, $40 million
• 31:13
  in his in his bank account with no direction, no structure, no
• 31:17
  nothing. Just go out here and figure it
• 31:19
  out like. In Oakland, at that.
• 31:22
  In Oakland, you know, be like, so it's just different things,
• 31:26
  you know, that comes with the, you know, this term that they
• 31:30
  just casually throw around. But again, I can't thank you
• 31:33
  guys enough for, you know, becoming a voice for some of the
• 31:36
  guys that have been in our position and been labeled as of
• 31:40
  us. Now that all thanks goes to
• 31:43
  Richie. That's what I'm saying.
• 31:45
  Look, and I'm I'm a throw right back around because this is
• 31:48
  exactly why I was like, you know, Greg needs to be a part of
• 31:52
  this film. We need to be on a show like
• 31:54
  this because they just y'all just spoke to something that
• 31:57
  even I can't even speak to. They just broke down the
• 32:00
  intricacies of it, the lived experience of it and why
• 32:03
  Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Anthony Bennett aren't bust.
• 32:07
  And they, you know, essentially said what I what what I'm trying
• 32:10
  to say within the film, You know, the only reason this bust
• 32:13
  term exists is exactly what they said is because you're comparing
• 32:17
  it to the opposite of that. And to me, it's a reflection of
• 32:20
  life. OK, Technically, everybody is a
• 32:22
  quote on quote bust if you not at the top of the the very top
• 32:26
  of the food chain, right. So if you're not LeBron, Jordan,
• 32:29
  Tom Brady, then technically everybody else is a plus, right?
• 32:33
  Like it's the same thing in life.
• 32:34
  If you ain't Elon Musk or whoever it is to be right, you
• 32:37
  don't got a billion dollars, then technically all of us are
• 32:39
  trying to make our way right. So I just think it's because,
• 32:43
  man, we have to make things so black and white with things like
• 32:47
  because of just how I think the media works and how we like to
• 32:50
  talk. Not to blame all of it on the
• 32:52
  media, but. Yeah, blame it on the media.
• 32:53
  About to say yeah, blame it. Because we.
• 33:00
  Know these shows, right? They got to put somebody here,
• 33:02
  somebody here, they got to debate it.
• 33:04
  And this is how these things operate.
• 33:06
  So to me, the only reason a term like a bust exists is because of
• 33:10
  this ecosystem of comparison and only one person can win, right?
• 33:14
  But when, when, as Quentin said, you may or not actually, Errol,
• 33:19
  you said this like, and it's the same thing that I have some some
• 33:22
  of these lines in the scripts, like you and the 1% of the 1%,
• 33:26
  anybody that ever threw a pigskin, shot a basketball on
• 33:29
  the hoop, kicked the soccer ball.
• 33:31
  They was trying to be at that level and these guys did it.
• 33:33
  Greg and Quentin did it. They made it.
• 33:35
  They've already made it. Whatever happens after that is
• 33:38
  gravy. Of course, I'm sure they wanted
• 33:40
  to, you know, potentially do more.
• 33:41
  But things happen, right? Context happens to where that
• 33:45
  these things don't all materialize in the way that you
• 33:47
  potentially see it. But regardless, these guys are
• 33:50
  like, like you what, 250 guys who drafted a year maybe.
• 33:54
  I don't know, let's just be safe. 8000 guys who played in
• 33:57
  the NFL in in history, maybe 3000 guys who played in the NBA
• 34:01
  in history. How you know how many dudes done
• 34:03
  picked up a basketball throwing the football right now in my
• 34:06
  neighborhood, it was about 100 of us that was playing every
• 34:08
  day, like trying to get to it, you know, so that's just in my
• 34:13
  neighborhood. So man, it's a it's just crazy
• 34:16
  to me and that's why it felt really important for me to make
• 34:19
  this to make this film, but get their perspective, because the
• 34:22
  way they broke it down and spoke to it, It's you know, nobody
• 34:26
  else can speak to that the same way.
• 34:28
  I think anyone else who goes through something you want to
• 34:30
  hear from the horse's mouth, right?
• 34:33
  And that's why it's important. I mean, and and luckily, thank
• 34:35
  God, as Quentin noted, we have these platforms now to where we
• 34:39
  can you all can tell y'all stories.
• 34:41
  I mean, how many athletes I know when you're not the only one?
• 34:43
  So many. Athletes.
• 34:46
  How many athlete podcasts? And I love it.
• 34:48
  It's like, no, you gonna I saw Jaylen Brown was doing a live
• 34:51
  stream the other day and Carmelo Anthony was like, now I love
• 34:54
  that Jaylen Brown live stream. Like more athletes need to speak
• 34:57
  directly to to y'all. Hold on, hold on.
• 35:00
  Don't say Carmelo Anthony because there's some stuff that
• 35:03
  comes out of Carmelo mouth you. Don't agree with?
• 35:06
  Carmelo Anthony, the things that come out of that guy's mouth on
• 35:10
  his show, just mind boggles me. I I guess.
• 35:13
  Because it's. Ridiculous.
• 35:16
  It's absolutely ridiculous. It's like this guy and I got to
• 35:20
  give, I got to give some people a lot of credit.
• 35:22
  A lot of these, a lot of these ex athletes, they go into
• 35:25
  broadcasting and a lot of them are good and some of them are
• 35:28
  just so very bad because of their names, because of who they
• 35:32
  are, their personalities they're following on social media.
• 35:34
  Because you know this Greg, when you were playing in the NBA,
• 35:37
  there really wasn't social media.
• 35:38
  There really wasn't ABS. It was after you left.
• 35:41
  Could you imagine if social media took off when you were
• 35:45
  playing in the NBA? Forget about it.
• 35:47
  You would have been torched. You would have been torched.
• 35:51
  I still want to fight some people from Facebook by the way.
• 35:56
  It's horrible. Yes, Sir.
• 35:59
  I'll tell you guys. Don't age me that.
• 36:00
  Quick. Yeah, he puts it back there.
• 36:03
  I'll tell you guys. I'll.
• 36:06
  Tell you guys something. So we do this show every week,
• 36:09
  twice a week, and after the show I get direct messages from
• 36:13
  different people and I tell people I'm going to answer every
• 36:16
  single message. I'm also a writer.
• 36:17
  I write because I like to piss people off.
• 36:20
  That's just my personal personality.
• 36:21
  It, it's just the way I attack people and I, they all attack
• 36:25
  me. They all have something to say.
• 36:26
  And all the, all the things that I've said on the show, I mean
• 36:30
  it. I don't, I don't beat around the
• 36:31
  Bush. I tell you how it is.
• 36:33
  You don't like it, then attack me.
• 36:35
  And every single time I get a message from these guys and
• 36:38
  they, they're attacking what I say.
• 36:39
  OK, then rebut me, give me an answer on why I'm wrong.
• 36:43
  And none of them, none of them can come up with an argument
• 36:47
  that would beat my argument on the show.
• 36:50
  So I said, well, why are you writing to me then?
• 36:52
  It makes no sense. Why are you attacking me when
• 36:54
  none of your perspective on what I said makes any sense?
• 36:59
  So I don't get it. And then the media, by the way,
• 37:02
  there are guys like Pat McAfee and I'm, I'm not going to
• 37:06
  mention any more names that go out there and they talk about
• 37:09
  basketball. What do you know about
• 37:11
  basketball? Seriously, Pat, the fact that
• 37:14
  you have Hal Burton on your show because you're a Pacer fan and
• 37:17
  and all these other guys that want to come on your show
• 37:19
  because you're you have a big, you have a big show, it's on
• 37:22
  ESPN, you're making millions and millions of dollars.
• 37:24
  But then when he comes up and he's speaking about basketball
• 37:26
  and hockey, I'm like, dude, you don't even know what you're
• 37:29
  talking about. That to me turns me off on your
• 37:32
  show. So why?
• 37:33
  Well, let me let me say this about Pat.
• 37:35
  Pat lives in Indianapolis and I don't know if you know anything
• 37:39
  about Indiana. Yes, we are all basketball
• 37:42
  experts. Yes, every last one of us that
• 37:44
  live in Indiana. So I'm just throwing that out
• 37:47
  there. So I'm gonna give Pat a pass
• 37:49
  because I grew up in Indianapolis and Terre Haute.
• 37:52
  So you know us, Indiana, We, we, we live and die by our
• 37:56
  basketball now. I got it.
• 37:58
  I got it. But the, the fact here is there
• 38:00
  are things that Pat McAfee says on his show when it comes to
• 38:02
  basketball makes no sense. I, I, I'm sitting there and I'm
• 38:05
  listening. Listen, Greg, I know you're
• 38:07
  going to stick up for your Indiana guys and you're going to
• 38:10
  stick up for your Ohio guys. And I respect you.
• 38:13
  Me. I don't care if you're from New
• 38:15
  York, Chicago, Miami, or LA. If I don't like what you got to
• 38:20
  say, I'm going to bite your friggin head off.
• 38:22
  And I could care less what you think of me and that.
• 38:25
  Sounds like a New York guy. I am a New York guy.
• 38:28
  I'm a. Very much, I got a question for
• 38:30
  you and this is a dumb question I guess.
• 38:33
  Why are you reading DMS? Because to me, it's a good
• 38:39
  question. So I'll tell you this.
• 38:40
  I actually like reading the DMS just as much as I like people
• 38:44
  writing about my stories and attacking me on their stories.
• 38:47
  We have a, we have a segment called Alrighty then and we read
• 38:51
  off. We pick the biggest story.
• 38:52
  So I'll, if there's 25,000 people that read the story, my,
• 38:57
  my producer will read off certain things that people
• 39:00
  write, good or bad, and I will read it off and I will answer
• 39:04
  them during the show. And it's funny because they're,
• 39:07
  they hide behind their stories. They give you their false little
• 39:10
  names, Cum Guzzler or MM and Ike or something.
• 39:14
  Like that? Yeah, there's some, there's some
• 39:17
  weird names, man. And they and they have like
• 39:19
  weird names and they, they attack me in every kind of way.
• 39:22
  And I'm looking at it. I'm like, OK, so if you got such
• 39:25
  a problem, why don't you should just call the show or why don't
• 39:28
  you just air out your opinion some other way?
• 39:30
  We could talk or nobody does that.
• 39:33
  You know why? Because everybody has an answer.
• 39:36
  Everybody thinks they're a genius.
• 39:37
  They know all about sports and they're know more about sports
• 39:40
  than you do. And then the athlete like
• 39:42
  Quinton, they'll attack Quinton and say, well, you weren't good
• 39:45
  in football. Really.
• 39:46
  I wasn't good in football. I was a first round draft pick.
• 39:48
  I sacked Tom Brady, You know, so I I don't I don't, I don't get
• 39:54
  it. Like the people have their own
• 39:56
  opinions, but their opinions are not solid enough to even answer.
• 40:00
  So why you ask me why I read it? Because I want to laugh at it.
• 40:03
  I like to laugh, I like to giggle.
• 40:06
  I read it off to my girlfriend, she thinks it's funny.
• 40:10
  I don't care what people think of me and that's why I do this,
• 40:13
  because I can tell you to go F yourself a million times and
• 40:17
  I'll come on this show every single time and tell you if you
• 40:20
  got a problem with me, I'll tell you where I live.
• 40:22
  You can come and meet me SO. Don't do that.
• 40:26
  I'm not going to do it that way because you know, they'll you'll
• 40:28
  have a whole gang gangling of people over here trying to I
• 40:31
  live in a cul-de-sac. They're going to be, you know,
• 40:34
  they'll be yelling and cops and everything like that, baseball
• 40:37
  bats and you know, all that other crap.
• 40:39
  But you know what, what it is it, it, the problem with the
• 40:41
  world is, is people think that they're geniuses because they
• 40:44
  watch sports. They think that they know more
• 40:46
  than the athlete does or know more than the analysts do.
• 40:50
  And, and the problem is, is guys like Stephen A Smith, who I
• 40:53
  actually respect, I actually respect for what he's done in
• 40:57
  the industry, he's brought an opening for people to do what he
• 41:02
  is doing. And now everybody thinks they
• 41:04
  could be the next Stephen A Smith.
• 41:05
  Everybody thinks they can bite somebody's head off and make
• 41:07
  millions and millions of dollars.
• 41:08
  That's why there's a million podcasts out there, a million
• 41:11
  podcasts and half of them suck. They'll never break.
• 41:15
  I don't know if you guys know this.
• 41:16
  More than half. We're we are a top 100 show in
• 41:20
  the country, in the country where we're at right now and
• 41:24
  we've been that way for almost 2 1/2 months on Spotify and Apple.
• 41:28
  We don't have ESPN, we don't have CBS, we don't have all
• 41:32
  these different companies telling us, oh, or feeding US
• 41:36
  money. We're doing it ourselves.
• 41:38
  And what that tells me and tells what we do better than everybody
• 41:41
  else is we're honest. We sit there.
• 41:44
  We're not hiding behind a director, a producer telling us,
• 41:47
  you better say this or you're fired.
• 41:50
  No, I'm going to say what I want and you can kiss my ass.
• 41:53
  That's what I'm going to say. And then after that, you're
• 41:56
  going to pay me to tell you to kiss my ass, because that's what
• 41:59
  Pat McAfee did with ESPN. And that's exactly what we're
• 42:03
  going to do when they're calling us into their little rooms and
• 42:06
  telling us, well, we'll give you this, we'll give you that, we'll
• 42:09
  give you this, we'll give you that, I'll give you this.
• 42:11
  That's what I'm going to give you.
• 42:13
  And that's, and that's, that's how I am.
• 42:16
  And and that's why Quentin kind of calms me down and levels me
• 42:19
  out because I I'm a very personable person.
• 42:24
  What you what you speaking to is to me is like that authenticity,
• 42:27
  man, like I think, you know, even when we first joined on the
• 42:30
  show, I was like, man, the energy on we were in the you
• 42:32
  know, the backstage room and I was like the energy on this show
• 42:35
  is amped. I'm like, I love it Like it's I
• 42:37
  can just tell they it's no holds bars, right.
• 42:40
  You get in the real and to, to to kind of piggyback from
• 42:43
  earlier, as far as you know, even though there are some
• 42:46
  athletes that aren't so good at media podcasting, I would prefer
• 42:51
  or I just appreciate the fact that they have the opportunity,
• 42:53
  right? Because you have some guys that
• 42:54
  are really good where you like, man, you could tell this guy is
• 42:57
  going to have a long broadcasting career.
• 42:58
  And then you have some guys where they struggle or they
• 43:01
  might try to say something that just, you know, for whatever
• 43:03
  reason. But I just appreciate that they
• 43:05
  have the opportunity because 1520 years ago that like other
• 43:08
  people were speaking for them, right?
• 43:10
  And, and to, to, you know, to this movie, to someone like Greg
• 43:14
  and Quinn, like they played, they played basketball and
• 43:16
  football respectively. And they're speaking about their
• 43:19
  experience. It's just the fact that they can
• 43:20
  now share their stories, share their perspective and whether
• 43:24
  you're an athlete or you're somebody such as yourself, Arrow
• 43:26
  or somebody like Pat man, I think I just think today people
• 43:30
  are like, yo, cut the bullshit. I want the real, whatever the
• 43:32
  real is. If it's from your perspective as
• 43:34
  an athlete, give me the real. Tell me what it's like in that
• 43:36
  locker room. Tell me what that you know what
• 43:38
  it was like getting ready for that big game five.
• 43:41
  And if it's the observers eyes, I'm not going to give you the
• 43:43
  cookie cutter thing. I'm going to tell you, you know,
• 43:45
  I'm going to keep it. I'm going to give it to you
• 43:46
  straight. Like you said, F you like like
• 43:48
  how arrows doing. So I just think, man, people
• 43:50
  want the real and that to me is reflective of the world.
• 43:53
  Where to your point arrow? It's not about acting like you
• 43:55
  know everything and being a genius it.
• 43:57
  Doesn't matter what you look like.
• 43:58
  For instance, our producer and our Co host right over here, and
• 44:02
  I say it on the show this he's autistic.
• 44:04
  Nobody would know that unless you know him personally.
• 44:08
  He's one of the great analysts when it comes to play by play.
• 44:12
  Greg, he probably tell your analytics from your last season
• 44:16
  in the NBA. He would know it.
• 44:17
  He would tell you what you did in certain games, how many
• 44:20
  rebounds, how many assists you've had in in in in a certain
• 44:24
  amount of game. The guy is a genius, an absolute
• 44:28
  genius, but the problem is with with autistic kids, they're not
• 44:31
  going to give him a chance because he's autistic.
• 44:34
  They're looking at him as deformed or not normal.
• 44:37
  So we're not going to give him a chance even though he's got all
• 44:39
  the talent in the world. When I looked at him when I
• 44:42
  first started working with him, I didn't look at him as that.
• 44:45
  I looked at him as an equal, and I still look at him as equal.
• 44:48
  As a matter of fact, he's one of the most talented people in this
• 44:50
  industry. And when people get to know who
• 44:53
  he is and his personality and his drive and his love for the
• 44:57
  business and sports, he wasn't a great athlete.
• 45:00
  I can tell you this right now. He can't shoot a basketball, he
• 45:02
  can't throw a football, and he definitely can't throw a
• 45:04
  baseball. He.
• 45:06
  Can dance though my boy can dance, he cannot.
• 45:10
  Dance. He's a voice.
• 45:11
  Dancer, I'm telling you. He's the one.
• 45:14
  He's down on that dance floor now.
• 45:15
  He could be a Rockette, That's about it.
• 45:17
  I mean, that guy's got high kicks and, and he's not afraid.
• 45:20
  He's not, he doesn't fear anything.
• 45:22
  What makes him so special is not because of who he is and what
• 45:27
  people see him as. What makes him special is what
• 45:29
  he believes himself to be. That is what makes him special.
• 45:34
  He doesn't hold back on anything he says.
• 45:35
  And I told him when he came here, when he started work with
• 45:38
  me. The one thing you need to do is
• 45:40
  be yourself. Don't worry about what anybody
• 45:41
  thinks of you or how they portray you to be.
• 45:44
  Just bite their freaking heads off.
• 45:46
  There you go. There's the middle fingers.
• 45:47
  Kiss my ass. That's all I'm going to say.
• 45:49
  And this guy, you can speak in here.
• 45:52
  Everything. What was the first thing I told
• 45:54
  you when you came into our studio?
• 45:56
  What was the first thing I told you?
• 45:57
  Hey. This is the first show.
• 46:02
  What was the first thing I told you after you left after I
• 46:05
  cancelled the first show that you weren't?
• 46:06
  Hey, thank you my. Boy, what did I tell you?
• 46:09
  No. That you believed in me, I
• 46:10
  remember. That that I believed in you.
• 46:11
  And what else did I told you? That's horrible dancing.
• 46:15
  Horrible dancing. Dude, you get the folks in the
• 46:18
  background. Dude, I'll take.
• 46:19
  Clearing them. All clearing them all.
• 46:21
  I'm the one to open the dance floor for him because I want him
• 46:24
  to break it down. Listen, I'll tell you this and
• 46:27
  Richie, what you guys are doing, Greg, what you, what you have
• 46:31
  done and what you continue to do, you speaking and, and
• 46:34
  speaking who you are and, and being a public speaker.
• 46:37
  It's something that I love to do too.
• 46:38
  When people ask me to talk to soldiers and people ask me to
• 46:41
  talk to kids, I always am open to do that because everybody
• 46:44
  asks me what makes you what drives you to do this?
• 46:47
  And I it's the love and the passion for this business.
• 46:49
  I love it. And it's not because I want to
• 46:51
  be a millionaire. I want to put my face on a
• 46:53
  television for everybody to kiss my ass.
• 46:55
  And if you want to do that, you're more than welcome.
• 46:57
  I'll pull my pants down. You can kiss my ass.
• 46:59
  But, but nevertheless, what I do in this business and, and how I
• 47:04
  do it, it's, it's, it's passion, it's love it, it's understanding
• 47:08
  how to entertain people. That's what I love about this
• 47:11
  business has nothing to do with being a superstar.
• 47:13
  The problem in this business is everybody wants to be the next
• 47:18
  Stephen A Smith, the Pat Mcafee's.
• 47:20
  And there's just not many positions out there that's going
• 47:23
  to give you that. And the only way you're going to
• 47:25
  get there is to show yourself as a different person.
• 47:30
  And I think Greg, I, I don't believe in bust.
• 47:33
  I don't believe in the word bust.
• 47:34
  I don't believe in, I don't believe in anything of those
• 47:37
  magnets. If you were a first round draft
• 47:39
  pick and as far as I'm concerned, you were one of the
• 47:43
  great centers coming out of college.
• 47:45
  If you look at your numbers when you want, you were playing in
• 47:48
  the national championship. And throughout that tournament,
• 47:50
  you did things that other players still to this day have
• 47:53
  not done, have not done. And when was the last time the
• 47:57
  Buckeyes were in a national championship game?
• 48:00
  Please let me hear that one. O7.
• 48:03
  Yeah, it's not. It doesn't happen every day.
• 48:05
  It doesn't happen every year. It takes years and years to
• 48:09
  accomplish that opportunity. And you were one of the leaders
• 48:12
  that took them there. And as far as you, Richie, I'm
• 48:15
  getting to know you and, and really the back end of your
• 48:18
  story communications and where you've gone and where you jump
• 48:22
  from one thing to another and, and decided to write a book like
• 48:25
  this and make a movie like this and kind of bring it, bring it
• 48:28
  to the forefront. And then you get Greg Odin
• 48:30
  involved and, and really put the perspective together.
• 48:33
  That to me shows more of an accomplishment than most people
• 48:38
  can do in a lifetime. And honestly, I give you nothing
• 48:41
  but my utmost respect. I, I really look, I look up to
• 48:44
  people like you because what I do in this this business and
• 48:47
  where I want to go in this business is going to drive me to
• 48:50
  the next level and watching people like you do it and Greg
• 48:54
  do it and and even quit and do it at a high level.
• 48:57
  That's where I want to go in this business at a hot the
• 48:59
  highest of high levels and compete with the best.
• 49:03
  And what we, you know, I certainly appreciate.
• 49:06
  I know Greg does. Just again, getting the
• 49:07
  opportunity for us to talk about the film, talk about our
• 49:10
  stories. It's not everyday, man.
• 49:13
  And again, like I said, like the energy that you guys have is is
• 49:16
  contagious. Like you making me want to run
• 49:17
  through a brick wall. Maybe you got to get in the
• 49:19
  coaching because I feel like I run through a brick wall, like,
• 49:21
  right. Now.
• 49:23
  You know, just like cut, cut, cut through all the noise, cut
• 49:25
  through all the BS. Like we only want the real man
• 49:28
  and Arrow just from being on the show with you guys for an hour,
• 49:31
  I'm like, what you guys are doing is real and and we need
• 49:34
  more of that. And and again, I certainly love,
• 49:37
  you know what you're doing quitting and speedy, like you
• 49:39
  guys bringing y'all's, you know, respective perspectives to this
• 49:43
  show, man. And again, I'm just so like, I
• 49:47
  was just beaming ear to ear just hearing Quentin and Greg talk
• 49:49
  about their experiences. Like we got two different
• 49:52
  sports, which is what I was trying to do in the movie.
• 49:53
  I'm like I want all these. Different sports.
• 49:55
  Talk about this experience, man. It's like a fraternity that you
• 49:59
  know that you guys have that experience that like I'm sure
• 50:03
  that I'm sure you guys don't even have to talk about.
• 50:05
  It's like like a telekinetic thing like you know is man, you
• 50:08
  know, so I'm just I'm just appreciative that y'all had us
• 50:10
  on the show. We were able to have this
• 50:12
  experience, man. And you know, again, this is
• 50:15
  this show is unlike anything I've ever been a part of and I
• 50:18
  just love the energy. And you know, I know you said
• 50:21
  you don't want to talk too much on Pat McAfee.
• 50:23
  I honestly don't watch much of Pat McAfee, but you got all the
• 50:26
  same traits, man. When I'm all here and at the
• 50:28
  times I've seen Pat McAfee, I just see him off the rails
• 50:31
  speaking the real. And that's what I've gotten on
• 50:33
  the hour that I've been with you.
• 50:34
  And it seems like you guys have like a really great dynamic.
• 50:36
  So I know this show is going to the moon, man.
• 50:38
  So in the same way, you know, we were able to inspire you by
• 50:41
  telling our story. You guys are inspiring us, man.
• 50:43
  So really appreciate the support.
• 50:45
  So but but I got one question for both of you guys, because
• 50:48
  this is an argument on this show a lot.
• 50:50
  Quentin has this LeBron James love and I got Michael Michael
• 50:54
  Jordans love. I almost said Michael Jackson
• 50:56
  but Michael Jordan love. So I want to know you both your
• 51:00
  opinion. Greg, you first.
• 51:02
  Who's the greatest basketball player of all time?
• 51:04
  Please, let's settle this. I've asked.
• 51:06
  I've asked Mike James this. Mike James, you know where he
• 51:09
  went? And I've asked.
• 51:11
  I've asked Metta World Peace this and you know where he went.
• 51:15
  So I want to hear what you guys got to say.
• 51:17
  Who's the greatest basketball player of all time?
• 51:21
  Yourself. Wilt Chamberlain Hey, so I put
• 51:30
  it like this. Michael Jordan changed the game
• 51:34
  and made it global. He made everybody want to go out
• 51:37
  there and play the game of basketball.
• 51:39
  LeBron James by the numbers is the greatest basketball player
• 51:45
  to play the game. And if we're going by analytics,
• 51:51
  LeBron James is. But also LeBron changed the game
• 51:55
  in his own perspective, but also so did Steph Curry.
• 51:58
  He changed the game, hit his own perspective as well.
• 52:01
  So there's a lot of people that you can say I'm at the age where
• 52:05
  I grew up watching Michael Jordan.
• 52:07
  And then I also played with Le Bron James in Miami, who I
• 52:12
  thought was a creative player. I think the Miami Heat Le Bron
• 52:16
  James is the greatest basketball player.
• 52:19
  Be quiet, Cute. Stop, Stop, Stop.
• 52:22
  Stop, stop you. Be quiet.
• 52:23
  You all right, Rich? Where were you got?
• 52:26
  Where do you got? It I'm gonna disappoint.
• 52:28
  So folks, man, I try. I never wanted to say this out
• 52:30
  in public, but I'm exclusive guy, man I play.
• 52:33
  I grew up in the area when I was coming of age where Jordan's
• 52:37
  Wizards years and I'm a storyteller, man.
• 52:39
  Like I I believe in like the magic of the whole reason I
• 52:43
  would go to the court by myself shooting hoops is because of
• 52:45
  that first scene in space Jam when he's when his dad is trying
• 52:48
  to get him off the court, man. So I understand what Greg is
• 52:51
  saying and that, you know, LeBron by the numbers is is I
• 52:54
  guess the GOAT. But I just can't quit Mike, man.
• 52:58
  Like it's just when I watch him, it's it's something else.
• 53:01
  It's something else. And so for me, Jordan, Jordan is
• 53:04
  the go. But I'm here's where I'm at,
• 53:06
  though. 10 years ago I would have fought it.
• 53:08
  I don't know, like, no, wait, LeBron is better than Jordan.
• 53:10
  I'm at the point now where I'm not arguing like what he's doing
• 53:14
  is objectively pain, like 42 years old still.
• 53:19
  You know, they talk about what team is he going to go to next
• 53:22
  year to help them, put them over the top.
• 53:24
  So like, if I'm being honest, like probably, you know, maybe
• 53:28
  he's the GOAT, but the fact that like I can't decide to me is
• 53:32
  good enough. And you know what, and I'll
• 53:33
  leave it on here. Both Jordan and LeBron, I feel
• 53:36
  like I've been talking about the GOAT debate recently.
• 53:37
  Like Jordan did the whole thing with Mike.
• 53:40
  Forget the last name, the last. Stance.
• 53:42
  That interview and he was like, there is no go, really, how can
• 53:44
  you compare? LeBron just did something with
• 53:46
  Dave. I forget the dude's last name
• 53:49
  too, but he just did something where he was like, Yo, I hope I
• 53:52
  made made Mike proud. So it feels like as LeBron is
• 53:54
  ending, nearing the end of his career, they're both like, man,
• 53:58
  put this to bed. Like we, we are the 2 greatest
• 54:00
  of all time. And so for me, I might give MJA
• 54:03
  slight edge and Greg gives LeBron the edge, man.
• 54:06
  But these are the two these. Get it rich.
• 54:09
  Get it rich? Anyone whoever wanted to
• 54:12
  basketball wanted to be one or the other, you know, And what
• 54:16
  I'll say is the fact that LeBron is 69270.
• 54:20
  I knew I could never do a little part of me, even though Jordan
• 54:23
  is also one percentile athlete, thought, OK, maybe I could do
• 54:27
  the fade away. I could do the up and under.
• 54:29
  So LeBron is just an anomaly. Can't nobody play like him, man.
• 54:32
  You know, I think that's why more of us, when we dream in the
• 54:34
  game, we like Mike and Steph and these little these smaller guys.
• 54:38
  Yeah. We'll stay away.
• 54:39
  We'll stay away. We'll stay away from Space Jam 2
• 54:41
  with LeBron James it. Was a pimple.
• 54:43
  My daughter likes that one so. Thank you.
• 54:47
  Kids watched it too. So what are you talking about?
• 54:49
  It's just an era. It's just whatever era you would
• 54:52
  have put it. In our.
• 54:53
  Kids wore it out or whatever man, but I.
• 54:55
  Swear. Yeah, Thank you guys for coming
• 54:57
  on, man. Tell the people where you know
• 54:59
  they can find you guys and then talk to them.
• 55:02
  Talk to them about, you know, where they can locate the movie,
• 55:06
  The theater, and where they can see the screening if they're
• 55:08
  around. Well, I just want to say thank
• 55:11
  you guys for having us. I'm going to let Richie take it
• 55:14
  home, but next week, Miami is it.
• 55:19
  Next week, two weeks, two weeks on the 27th Miami African
• 55:23
  American Film Festival, please come out and support the movie
• 55:27
  bus. Thank you guys for having us on
• 55:30
  your platform so we can talk about it and God bless.
• 55:34
  Nice, Greg. We'll get John.
• 55:36
  We'll get you guys on. After you get the showing and
• 55:39
  everything, we'd love to hear your take on every.
• 55:41
  How many people showed up? We would definitely like to hear
• 55:43
  your take on it. Yeah, absolutely.
• 55:45
  Yeah. As Greg noted, May 27th in Miami
• 55:48
  Beach, 5 O 5:00 PM at O Cinema. You can come see Bust for the
• 55:52
  first time and then just keep and and and if you can't make it
• 55:56
  to that screening, follow Bust Movie on Instagram.
• 56:00
  Again, that's just Bust Movie. We'll give you that guys, all
• 56:03
  the updates on what other screenings we're going to be
• 56:05
  doing. This is just the beginning.
• 56:07
  We hope to be doing screenings throughout the year.
• 56:10
  And so, yeah, again, really appreciate the opportunity to
• 56:13
  come on. The show has been a blast and
• 56:16
  really appreciate the support for our film.
• 56:17
  Thank you guys. By the way, we were just talking
• 56:20
  to Richie Camchum and former NBA player, 10 year vet Greg Odin.
• 56:27
  And guys, go check out the movie Bust It's coming.
• 56:30
  Soon. And 1st screening, like they
• 56:32
  were saying May 27th in Miami, fantastic interview.
• 56:36
  They're fantastic. And shout out to Greg, shout out
• 56:40
  to Richie. They're they're just great
• 56:42
  personalities and and what really makes them unique is they
• 56:46
  were straightforward. They they explained a little bit
• 56:48
  about the movie. They don't want to give anything
• 56:50
  away because they want people to go and see it.
• 56:53
  But you can see that the love of the game, the love of the game
• 56:57
  of basketball, Greg, you know, you heard it.
• 56:59
  I it was interesting because I've never heard Greg Onan ever
• 57:03
  be ever have an interview and say that he cried and he was
• 57:07
  smoking weed and drinking. I never even know that.
• 57:09
  So that was that was a good question.
• 57:12
  Q And we got a chance to get to know Greg a little bit as a
• 57:16
  person, not just as an athlete, as a normal person, as a father.
• 57:20
  And that, that is unique by itself.
• 57:22
  Honestly one of the best interviews we've ever had.
• 57:25
  I've interviewed over 5000 people, 5000 people, athletes,
• 57:30
  analysts, writers, movie stars, everything Speedy.
• 57:34
  I mean, I've interviewed everybody.
• 57:35
  And what makes these two guys so unique is they were honest.
• 57:41
  A lot of people just like to beat around the Bush.
• 57:43
  They don't want to give you answers.
• 57:45
  I told everybody, Jamie and Sherwood, he came on our show
• 57:48
  two years ago and you weren't on the show.
• 57:50
  Q And everybody, I was like, oh, we got Jamie and Sherwood on the
• 57:54
  show and he was on the show. He would not give me any
• 57:57
  answers. I, I open up people, I get them
• 57:59
  involved and and they he just would not open up.
• 58:03
  He was just boring. And I was like, I can't stand
• 58:06
  this guy. And then I then the year later,
• 58:08
  year later, they just give him a four year extension.
• 58:10
  I was like, why me? Why me?
• 58:13
  So typical, typical Jet fan, ladies and gentlemen, The Jets
• 58:17
  signed people I don't want. So thank you very much for all
• 58:21
  the Jet fans out there. If you're watching, kiss my ass.
• 58:25
  That's it, sorry. And you call yourself A and you
• 58:27
  call yourself a. Jet.
• 58:28
  I'm a real Jet fan. I don't want Jamie.
• 58:31
  You're telling you? I don't like Jamie and Sherwood.
• 58:34
  I love, I love Davis. I love, I love the I love the
• 58:38
  fact that they brought him back. That was a Rex Ryan guy.
• 58:40
  I love it, but why the hell there it is?
• 58:43
  I'd be running there it is. Perfect.
• 58:47
  Perfect. That is perfect.
• 58:50
  Get yourself in trouble now. That's me running over Q if
• 58:55
  anybody wants to know if if anybody wants to.
• 58:58
  We don't know who that guy is. That's you Qi mean this
• 59:02
  beautiful, this everybody. But by the way, anybody that
• 59:05
  knows Q on this show and I I'm sick today, but I I'm I'm
• 59:09
  getting back. I'm I'm getting back some energy
• 59:11
  on this show. I've been dealing with fevers
• 59:13
  and being sick, losing my voice and I'm here giving you the
• 59:17
  entertainment. I will say this every time I
• 59:19
  talk to Q, he talks how he's a supermodel, he's beautiful, he's
• 59:23
  good looking and all the women want him.
• 59:25
  And I say, aren't you married? Don't God gifts that's that's
• 59:29
  part you get up here line God's gift.
• 59:32
  I don't talk about how many. Women.
• 59:33
  Higher. Higher.
• 59:35
  All right now, am I gifted in the looks area?
• 59:39
  I've been told, you know I don't.
• 59:41
  I want tomorrow morning. I've been told so you know, but
• 59:44
  outside of that. Ladies and gentlemen, he has
• 59:47
  lost his mind that's. Perfect.
• 59:49
  Oh, by by far one of the top five handsomest guys you ever
• 59:53
  had on the show. Get the hell out of here.
• 59:56
  You're looking at the most handsome guy on this show.
• 59:58
  Right over here, right here, ladies and gentlemen, right
• 1:00:01
  here. They call me beautiful.
• 1:00:07
  Hey, listen. Listen, I don't need any grief
• 1:00:11
  from you and all the bullcrap that comes out of your mouth on
• 1:00:13
  this show. I'm losing.
• 1:00:16
  I'm losing. I'm trying to keep my my voice
• 1:00:18
  flushed with this pink crap. OK, All right.
• 1:00:22
  Crystal Lightning. It's crystal light with, you
• 1:00:25
  know, some antibiotic syndromes. You know, I mean I'm how?
• 1:00:29
  Old are you you still chopping up antibiotics?
• 1:00:31
  Dude, I I'm sick, I'm sick, I'm just.
• 1:00:35
  Take the medicine, why are you chopping it up and put it in a
• 1:00:37
  drink? Because it it's more tasty that
• 1:00:39
  way. I don't like to drink, you know,
• 1:00:41
  I, I don't know. You know what, you know what you
• 1:00:44
  know what I I can't stand about you is when, when it comes down
• 1:00:48
  to it, you tried to attack me for the dumbest reasons and then
• 1:00:52
  and I. Say you just.
• 1:00:54
  Like to attack me on this show for the dumbest reasons.
• 1:00:57
  Yes, you do. Questions.
• 1:00:58
  That's not an attack. That's not you're antagonizing
• 1:01:01
  me. That's what you're.
• 1:01:01
  Doing I asked what are you 2? I'm drinking crystal light.
• 1:01:05
  With antibiotics in him, what do you want me to say?
• 1:01:08
  That's what I do with kids, like when I take.
• 1:01:10
  Medicine. It's not like he's eating
• 1:01:12
  Flintstone vitamins or anything like that.
• 1:01:14
  Actually, actually that's delicious, by the way, Love,
• 1:01:17
  love that. I love it.
• 1:01:19
  I actually have the Flintstones Benadryl because I don't like
• 1:01:23
  yes, I actually eat that. I chew that stuff.
• 1:01:25
  It's good. It's good.
• 1:01:26
  What it's good. I I.
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  Allergic. It's delicious.
• 1:01:30
  It's delicious. I actually eat that stuff.
• 1:01:32
  Yeah, but Dabadoo. Yeah, but Dabadoo.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah, it's definitely Dabadoo. Anyways, thank you to Greg Oding
• 1:01:38
  and and obviously Richie Camp Chew.
• 1:01:40
  I'm Chew, by the way. Richie is fantastic, man, He
• 1:01:44
  really is. I, you know what it is I I love
• 1:01:48
  stories and I love storytelling and I could tell I want to go
• 1:01:52
  and see that movie. So I because I I like the
• 1:01:55
  stories behind the story. So very, very interesting.
• 1:01:59
  Both very, very nice guys and hope we get them on the show
• 1:02:02
  again. Anyways, we call this all
• 1:02:06
  righty, then all righty, then all righty, all righty, all
• 1:02:14
  righty, then all right, let's go.
• 1:02:19
  All righty then, here we are once again with our literary
• 1:02:23
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  We got plenty of shorts and plenty of longer videos that we
• 1:02:52
  give you throughout the week, including that wonderful
• 1:02:53
  interview that we just had with Greg Owed and Richie Kamchum.
• 1:02:57
  So the article is about Giannis. I'm going to share the screen
• 1:03:00
  with you. I'm going to read an excerpt of
• 1:03:01
  it. There's a bunch of comments on
• 1:03:04
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  comments. Where can they find it speedy?
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  As New York sports loudmouth powered by Worldwide Sports
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• 1:03:15
  you want to get your comments, read about these articles.
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  That's where you go. Let's bring this one down and
• 1:03:20
  bring up the article Giannis trade rumors have the NBA acting
• 1:03:24
  like Facebook marketplace at 2:00 AM.
• 1:03:28
  Let's take a look. Here it is, Giannis.
• 1:03:32
  The. NBA has officially entered the
• 1:03:34
  Every fan base thinks they're getting Giannis stage of the
• 1:03:37
  offseason. You got fans in Brooklyn posting
• 1:03:40
  fake Photoshop edits, fans in Houston making fake trade
• 1:03:44
  machines. Fans in Miami are already
• 1:03:47
  learning how to spell and Ted Akumpo after 12 years.
• 1:03:51
  And Knicks fans, Knicks fans are standing outside Madison Square
• 1:03:54
  Garden holding boom boxes like it's a 1987 romance movie
• 1:03:59
  screaming Yanis please, we have Deuce McBride.
• 1:04:02
  Now the scary part. This time it actually makes
• 1:04:07
  sense. Let's skip down the East Coast
• 1:04:09
  part is what should terrify everybody.
• 1:04:13
  What making this EV crazier is the growing belief that around
• 1:04:16
  the league that Giannis would prefer staying in the Eastern
• 1:04:19
  Conference and on the East Coast if things go South in Milwaukee
• 1:04:23
  to immediately made Knicks fans, Heat fans, Celtics fans, and
• 1:04:26
  every fake NBA insider with a microphone lose their minds
• 1:04:30
  simultaneously. Because suddenly this isn't just
• 1:04:33
  maybe someday Giannis leaves. Now it's, Oh no, this man, we
• 1:04:38
  could actually be 45 minutes away from playing at Madison
• 1:04:41
  Square Garden. That changes everything, Speedy.
• 1:04:47
  All right, just for you. Q, We'll start with the Celtics
• 1:04:50
  comment. This is Shaolin swerving Monk
• 1:04:52
  referencing the spacing. If the Celtics were to trade for
• 1:04:56
  Giannis, he'd rather try for swinging for a better big man
• 1:05:00
  than and keep Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum together.
• 1:05:03
  Shaylen, thank you for your your thoughts and your comments.
• 1:05:07
  What do you want? Drugs.
• 1:05:08
  Giannis right now, he had his best season before he got
• 1:05:11
  injured. This year, Giannis is playing at
• 1:05:14
  a high level and Giannis is better than Jaylen Brown or
• 1:05:18
  Jayson Tatum. It's no doubt about it.
• 1:05:20
  If you look at the top five players before Giannis went
• 1:05:23
  down, he was a top 4 player for MVP and you're going to tell me
• 1:05:27
  you can find it. But who's better than Giannis
• 1:05:29
  right now? That's going to be available in
• 1:05:30
  the offseason. What big man?
• 1:05:32
  You had no big man. You got eliminated by the 76ers,
• 1:05:36
  who, by the way, the Knicks wept.
• 1:05:38
  Good luck on that one. All right, we'll go to a Nets
• 1:05:40
  comment here. Cooley.
• 1:05:41
  Cooley, with the new tanking rules, it makes so much sense
• 1:05:44
  for the Nets to build naturally with the way that the tanking
• 1:05:46
  rules are, especially with the next article.
• 1:05:48
  You just broke it as well with this new 321 rule.
• 1:05:51
  I like the new rules for the Nets, even with the Nets getting
• 1:05:53
  hurt by it. And he was mentioning teams like
• 1:05:55
  the Wizards and the Pelicans getting lucky.
• 1:05:58
  Cooley, Cooley. And I agree with you.
• 1:06:01
  I, I, I do agree with everything that you said.
• 1:06:03
  But here's the thing. The tanking rule makes no sense
• 1:06:08
  for the NBA. It would work for the NHL.
• 1:06:10
  It would work for practically every other sport but the NBA.
• 1:06:16
  Because how many times do you see a team go to overtime?
• 1:06:20
  How many times do you see that? You don't see it at all.
• 1:06:23
  It makes no sense how the NBA is drawing that.
• 1:06:26
  And as far as I'm concerned with the Nets, the Nets are a losing
• 1:06:30
  organization. They're never going to get
• 1:06:31
  Giannis. They're never going to get
• 1:06:32
  another superstar because they have Sean Marks running the
• 1:06:35
  show. And it doesn't matter if they
• 1:06:37
  get a cuff, they get Waggler, whatever.
• 1:06:40
  And Waggler, it doesn't matter to me.
• 1:06:43
  They're an organization that bombs everything.
• 1:06:46
  So thank you, Cooley. Cooley.
• 1:06:47
  All right, this one, this is Peace Porridge, 90 old.
• 1:06:50
  He thinks the Toronto Raptors watch out for them as a dark
• 1:06:52
  horse. They got some bad contracts,
• 1:06:54
  mentioning Emmanuel Quigley and Jacob Purtle, mainly that I'm
• 1:06:57
  sure that I'd love to turn into Giannis.
• 1:06:58
  They have to pony up in terms of picks and young players, but
• 1:07:00
  they do have the stock to do it. Now, peace.
• 1:07:03
  Thank you for your take on that. Do you really think Giannis
• 1:07:07
  wants to go to Toronto? Come on, He has already said he
• 1:07:11
  wants to stay on the East Coast. 1 #2 he wants to play in a big
• 1:07:15
  market. Toronto is more of a hockey
• 1:07:17
  market. Why would he go there?
• 1:07:19
  He's not going to sell much over there.
• 1:07:21
  He'd probably rather go to Miami, New York, Chicago.
• 1:07:24
  He wants to go to one of those big markets where he can build
• 1:07:27
  his brand. So that's not going to happen.
• 1:07:29
  But they have pieces that if he waves this no trade clause and
• 1:07:35
  he wants to go there. I don't know if he has a no
• 1:07:37
  trade clause, but with the NBA, no trade clause is for every
• 1:07:41
  single contract for a big superstar because if he gets
• 1:07:44
  traded over there, he doesn't want to play there.
• 1:07:46
  There's no reason to trade for him because he's going to be
• 1:07:48
  asking for his way out. It's not going to happen.
• 1:07:50
  Yannis is going to make his choice on where he wants to go.
• 1:07:53
  It's just not going to be Toronto.
• 1:07:54
  All right, that's one from Warrior Popes.
• 1:07:57
  This is for the Miami Heat. He wouldn't shock me.
• 1:07:59
  The Heat will get him because he thinks it's on Giannis's
• 1:08:01
  shortlist. Now, the Heat does not believe
• 1:08:03
  that the Heat Max offer is going to compare to a team like
• 1:08:07
  Toronto, A-Team like Houston or OKC in the West.
• 1:08:10
  And a lot of these other teams are more young talent than the
• 1:08:11
  Miami Heat. Do all right, I I agree with
• 1:08:14
  you. The heat makes a lot of sense.
• 1:08:15
  Pat Riley knows how to find the guys, but guess what?
• 1:08:18
  If you trade for Giannis, you're going to have to trade Bam out
• 1:08:22
  of bio because there is no way you're getting Giannis for
• 1:08:25
  nothing. Who do you have?
• 1:08:27
  You don't have much draft stock. You really don't.
• 1:08:30
  You don't have you're not going to get a top ten pick with Bam
• 1:08:32
  on a bio there and Tyler Hero and the pieces that you have
• 1:08:35
  over there. So it wouldn't make any sense to
• 1:08:38
  just do that. You're going to have to get
• 1:08:39
  another team involved if he goes if you want to keep Bam on a bio
• 1:08:43
  there and add Yanis. All right, last one.
• 1:08:46
  This is just a more general one, taking shots at the Bucks
• 1:08:49
  organization. No one's trading with the Bucks.
• 1:08:52
  They've lost all credibility and they'll have to hope for a
• 1:08:54
  miracle to get anything they want.
• 1:08:57
  Is that cat? Is that his name?
• 1:08:58
  Surf Shark. Thank you, Cat.
• 1:09:00
  And I agree with you. Right now, Giannis is in the
• 1:09:03
  driver's seat. The organization is in shambles.
• 1:09:07
  They don't know what they're going to do.
• 1:09:08
  They don't have any pieces. They don't have any draft stock.
• 1:09:10
  They don't have anything right now.
• 1:09:12
  Milwaukee is up shit's Creek, as they would say.
• 1:09:15
  So my opinion here is Giannis is going to put the organization on
• 1:09:21
  his back and he's going to make sure wherever he gets traded, if
• 1:09:23
  he loves the organization, he's going to make sure they get
• 1:09:26
  pieces back that they can build with.
• 1:09:28
  If Giannis don't give a crap about the organization, he's
• 1:09:30
  going to tell the organization to kiss his ass and he's going
• 1:09:34
  there and you get whatever is given to you.
• 1:09:36
  I think Giannis loves the organization.
• 1:09:38
  I think he loves Milwaukee. He's going to make sure that
• 1:09:41
  they don't get screwed out of any trade.
• 1:09:43
  So that's my opinion. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:09:45
  and that is all righty. Then the Buffalo Sabres and the
• 1:09:50
  Montreal Canadiens are tied to two with Game 5 going on
• 1:09:54
  tonight, which I think it's three.
• 1:09:56
  No, it's 63 right now. Looks like Montreal is going to
• 1:10:00
  close them out tonight and go up 3:00 to 2:00.
• 1:10:04
  Montreal dominated game three with a six two win but the
• 1:10:09
  Sabres even the series in game 4 winning three to two on a
• 1:10:13
  game-winning goal by Zach Benson.
• 1:10:16
  The winner of the series will face off against Carolina in the
• 1:10:20
  Eastern Conference Finals after they swept the Philadelphia
• 1:10:23
  Flyers, which it seems like every Philadelphia team is
• 1:10:26
  getting swept as we speak. The Vegas Golden Knights lead
• 1:10:30
  the Anaheim Ducks 3:00 to 2:00 and with game six dropping the
• 1:10:34
  puck soon, rookie Pavel, how do you pronounce this Dora?
• 1:10:38
  Fiev. Dora Fiev scored the overtime
• 1:10:42
  winner, his seventh goal already in the postseason.
• 1:10:46
  The winner of this series will face off against the Colorado
• 1:10:49
  Avalanche, who advanced to the Western Conference Finals with a
• 1:10:53
  four one series win against Minnesota, which was incredible.
• 1:10:55
  Minnesota's a good team. Colorado trailed 3 nothing after
• 1:11:00
  the first period and three to one with under 5 minutes
• 1:11:04
  remaining in Game 5 before winning in overtime on a goal by
• 1:11:09
  Brett Kulak. So there you go.
• 1:11:11
  And Colorado to me is almost unbeatable.
• 1:11:15
  I think whoever wins the Montreal and Buffalo series,
• 1:11:18
  which it seems like Montreal is going to go up three to two.
• 1:11:20
  I think this goes seven games. I've we, we've predicted that I,
• 1:11:23
  I think Buffalo is not going to die out in Montreal.
• 1:11:27
  I think I expect them to go strong in Montreal and and take
• 1:11:32
  this to a game seven in Buffalo and see how that turns out to
• 1:11:36
  happen in Game 7. But Montreal, everybody knows
• 1:11:40
  what I like, what I think about Martin St.
• 1:11:42
  Louis. I think he's a great head coach.
• 1:11:45
  I think he deserves a lot of credit for rebuilding this
• 1:11:47
  organization. This is an organization that has
• 1:11:50
  not played in the Stanley Cup. When was the last time they
• 1:11:52
  played in the Stanley Cup? In the 80s?
• 1:11:53
  Well, they did four years ago and that was that really short
• 1:11:55
  season. No, I'm not talking about that.
• 1:11:56
  They got, they got there. Yeah, that.
• 1:11:58
  But yeah, let's not talk about. That it was 93.
• 1:12:00
  Yeah, when Patrick Wall was the the goaltender and honestly,
• 1:12:04
  this, it might be the best chance they have to win a
• 1:12:06
  Stanley Cup. This is a good team.
• 1:12:08
  They're young, they're fast, they're mean, they score,
• 1:12:11
  they've got tremendous talent. They have no adoption from the
• 1:12:15
  from the Islanders they traded 2 first round draft picks for and
• 1:12:18
  Dobson's had a great season. I love watching Nick Suzuki.
• 1:12:21
  He's 511, he's fast, he's got tremendous ability.
• 1:12:25
  Love watching the kid and he's a superstar.
• 1:12:27
  I I've always enjoyed watching him and I watched him play in
• 1:12:31
  the OHL and all that other stuff.
• 1:12:32
  So this is a good Montreal team and and Martin St.
• 1:12:35
  Louis, let's think about it. Martin St.
• 1:12:38
  Louis on skates is like 5-8 off skates is like 5756.
• 1:12:42
  The last guy I can remember at that size that played at such a
• 1:12:45
  high level like him was Theo Fleury.
• 1:12:47
  Remember him at a Hall of Famer and should be if he's not in the
• 1:12:51
  Hall of Fame, he should be in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:12:52
  So I expect Montreal to, you know, play at a high level no
• 1:12:59
  matter what happens in the series.
• 1:13:00
  And I love watching Montreal as far as I don't want to get into
• 1:13:03
  Carolina because Carolina really to me hasn't lost the game.
• 1:13:06
  But they haven't beaten anybody. They haven't beaten anybody.
• 1:13:10
  They've gone through the first round of the second round with
• 1:13:13
  ease. Why?
• 1:13:13
  Because they didn't play anybody.
• 1:13:15
  And Rob Brindle Moore is going to be walking into a series in
• 1:13:19
  the Easter Conference finals. If you look at Rob Brindle
• 1:13:21
  Moore's numbers and the Carolina Hurricanes numbers over the last
• 1:13:25
  couple of years in the Easter Conference finals, they're not
• 1:13:28
  good. So I it doesn't matter if it's
• 1:13:31
  Montreal or Buffalo, they have their work cut out for them no
• 1:13:35
  matter who they play against. And as far as the Western
• 1:13:38
  Conference finals, it doesn't matter if Vegas wins or Anaheim
• 1:13:41
  wins. Nobody is going through
• 1:13:43
  Colorado. Nobody.
• 1:13:45
  The only two teams that might have a chance to beat them is
• 1:13:49
  Buffalo and Montreal. And I think Montreal more
• 1:13:51
  because they're pesky and they're fast and, and they've
• 1:13:55
  had great goalie, great goaltending throughout the, the,
• 1:13:58
  throughout the playoffs. Montreal, when Montreal was at
• 1:14:01
  its highest level, they had Patrick Wall in 93 and I, and it
• 1:14:06
  was, he won 2 Stanley Cups with the Montreal Canadiens.
• 1:14:09
  It was 93. And I think it was 86 when they
• 1:14:11
  won two, they won another Stanley Cup that that was when
• 1:14:15
  they were the, they were a great team.
• 1:14:16
  They had great goaltending. If this kid continues to play at
• 1:14:20
  a high level like this, Montreal is going to win the Stanley Cup.
• 1:14:23
  This is this is a great team. This is a great young team.
• 1:14:26
  And but Colorado is they're a pretty good team, man.
• 1:14:32
  The only thing that worries me, as it always does every year, is
• 1:14:35
  their goaltending. Their goaltending's been pretty
• 1:14:37
  good in the playoffs. But if you look at their team
• 1:14:40
  from top to bottom, from offense to defense, their weakness,
• 1:14:43
  goaltending, and we'll see. And honestly, I got to, I got to
• 1:14:48
  give him a lot of credit because Minnesota is a good team.
• 1:14:50
  They're a good team, they're a loaded team.
• 1:14:53
  And to do what they did against Minnesota the way they did it,
• 1:14:57
  very shocking, very shocking. Yeah, they had to pull their
• 1:14:59
  goal after the first period. Minnesota went up 3 nothing in
• 1:15:02
  that game and Minnesota still put enough good pressure on them
• 1:15:07
  to win that game. Colorado was getting good shots
• 1:15:09
  from their stars. They just weren't getting enough
• 1:15:11
  to death and then finally their guys came through later in the
• 1:15:13
  game. You they traded back for cadre
• 1:15:15
  in order to get that depth. They were able to spread the
• 1:15:17
  wings out as well, which is something that Colorado I don't
• 1:15:20
  think was able to do a lot of the beginning of that series.
• 1:15:22
  Even though they were winning besides that one nine goal game,
• 1:15:25
  they were still very star reliant and and even W was
• 1:15:28
  mentioning it too and a couple of times he was betting there.
• 1:15:30
  Sometimes Nathan McKinnon driven too much and it's sometimes the
• 1:15:33
  depth hinders them, but they were able to show the depth
• 1:15:35
  later in that series and make it work.
• 1:15:37
  Minnesota is a very good team. This is a more physical team,
• 1:15:39
  more center than they've had in years past.
• 1:15:41
  And yes, but Walstadt was a very good young goalie that had a
• 1:15:45
  great first two periods of that game but then just fell apart.
• 1:15:48
  Late, let me ask you a question. Is Joe Sakic right now the best
• 1:15:52
  GM we've seen in the last 30 years?
• 1:15:55
  Because this guy has built teams and gotten rid of players and
• 1:16:00
  built teams again? Think about it, they they traded
• 1:16:03
  with the Islanders, they traded Devin Tames, they traded a
• 1:16:07
  second round draft pick for Devin Tames and Devin Tames
• 1:16:10
  becomes he's become one of the best all around defenseman in
• 1:16:13
  all of the NHL. Think about all the moves that
• 1:16:16
  he has made and he's played for good Colorado teams.
• 1:16:19
  Think about it, he played with Peter Forsberg, Claude Lemieux,
• 1:16:21
  Patrick Wah, Huey Croup. He played with some great
• 1:16:25
  players, those teams, Adam Foot, I remember those teams.
• 1:16:29
  Think about that. Joe Sackey, after he retired, he
• 1:16:32
  took over as the executive, lead executive in the GM of this
• 1:16:37
  organization and has changed the fortunes of this organization.
• 1:16:42
  This is a winning organization. It's been a winning organization
• 1:16:45
  since he's taken over it. It's amazing what this guy has
• 1:16:48
  done with this and this guy was a winner when he was a player,
• 1:16:52
  Hall of Famer as a player. He is going to be a Hall of
• 1:16:54
  Famer as AGM. Let's ask answer my question
• 1:16:59
  here. How many players that are Hall
• 1:17:03
  of Famers became Hall of Famers as GMs?
• 1:17:07
  Do you know anybody that's ever played in the NHL that became a
• 1:17:11
  Hall of Famer as a player and then became a Hall of Famer as
• 1:17:14
  AGM? The answer, and I've got the
• 1:17:16
  answer. Nobody, nobody's ever done that.
• 1:17:20
  And I'm going to tell you this right now, if you would ask me
• 1:17:22
  if he wins the Stanley Cup this year with this team, he's a Hall
• 1:17:25
  of Famer. Everything that he's done,
• 1:17:27
  everything that he's done has been incredible.
• 1:17:30
  Yeah, it's a storyline that you look at them trying to get
• 1:17:33
  Landiscock back. That's something that I think
• 1:17:35
  that they've. And he still hasn't even played
• 1:17:37
  at a high level. But they're rallying around that
• 1:17:40
  kind of thing and they know they have to get the combined
• 1:17:42
  production. They're making it work with a
• 1:17:43
  lot of these veteran guys that are shifting positions now.
• 1:17:46
  Like I said, them trading for cadre, they've had to rotate a
• 1:17:48
  lot of it and then they made it work.
• 1:17:50
  Minnesota has a lot of stars that end up working out depth,
• 1:17:54
  players that end up playing well in the and most of the playoffs.
• 1:17:56
  They just didn't have enough for the Wings.
• 1:17:59
  The second, I would say the two and threes of Colorado later in
• 1:18:02
  that game, then later in that Game 4 as well, when that game
• 1:18:05
  was tied 2:00 to 2:00 and then Colorado big third period, they
• 1:18:07
  win 5 to 2 all of a sudden and they're on to the Eastern
• 1:18:11
  Western Conference finals. It's amazing how this guy can
• 1:18:14
  pick out talent through the draft finds guys, he added he
• 1:18:18
  added players. He made a trade with the
• 1:18:19
  Islanders at the trade deadline last year that a lot of people
• 1:18:23
  questioning that move, giving away first round draft picks and
• 1:18:26
  all this other stuff. And look what he's turned out to
• 1:18:28
  be. Brock Nelson has been so
• 1:18:30
  important to this team defensively and offensively as a
• 1:18:34
  player. I mean, he is an incredible GMI
• 1:18:37
  don't care what anybody says. You might not like Joe Sakic.
• 1:18:41
  I I I know if you don't like the core back Nordique.
• 1:18:43
  So the Colorado Avalanche, you know nothing about this guy.
• 1:18:46
  This guy was not just a special high.
• 1:18:49
  This guy in in the late 90s and early 2000s was one of the best
• 1:18:54
  centers in the league, one of the best players in the league
• 1:18:59
  at such a high level. Go look at Joe Sakic's numbers.
• 1:19:02
  It's unbelievable. Anyways.
• 1:19:04
  Shifting to another good GM too in Vegas with George McPhee,
• 1:19:06
  though that team is still been built well.
• 1:19:08
  Long Island native. Yeah, we questioned it with the
• 1:19:10
  coaching change and again, something that was very
• 1:19:13
  unconventional. The talent was never out of the
• 1:19:15
  question, though, and now they're getting it with some
• 1:19:16
  younger guys, too. This was a team that was very
• 1:19:18
  old for a while, but somebody like Dior de Foria breaking out
• 1:19:21
  the way he did did. You ever, have you ever seen
• 1:19:23
  George McPhee, the way he dresses?
• 1:19:26
  I, I, I got a chance to meet him when Vegas, they had their first
• 1:19:31
  draft and everything like that. I got it.
• 1:19:32
  And he came from the Islanders organization, just so everybody
• 1:19:35
  knows. And he has been there since they
• 1:19:38
  became a franchise. And this guy is a genius.
• 1:19:41
  But the way he dresses, he dresses like a prep.
• 1:19:44
  He he wears those high socks. His, his, his suit pants.
• 1:19:49
  You can see what he's wearing on his socks.
• 1:19:51
  It's, it's, it's pretty funny. Or I saw him the second year.
• 1:19:55
  He was wearing no socks, no nothing.
• 1:19:57
  You could just see his ankles. He he knows how to dress, man.
• 1:20:01
  He he's definitely a classy dresser.
• 1:20:03
  I got to give him some credits. That's all I had to add that.
• 1:20:05
  Yeah, What's interesting with this Vegas team is I think it's
• 1:20:07
  a little different than some of the other ones were.
• 1:20:09
  Like I said, they're getting more reliable science on the on
• 1:20:11
  the younger wing players, their defense in the rush too, which
• 1:20:14
  is something that you didn't see a lot of with Tortorello with
• 1:20:16
  some of the other stops he was with.
• 1:20:18
  He definitely died with the Rangers later on when the
• 1:20:20
  defense. Got old.
• 1:20:21
  He didn't have this kind of talent.
• 1:20:22
  No, Vegas defense has always been very deep as it is and now
• 1:20:25
  you're getting them more involved in the offense, which
• 1:20:27
  is very which is very interesting compared to their
• 1:20:29
  previous coaches and obviously Jack Eichel's star.
• 1:20:31
  They have other stars galore too, but they also have a lot of
• 1:20:34
  the other stuff that makes it work, the defensive depth, the
• 1:20:36
  center depth, which always is the number one thing you need
• 1:20:38
  for a hockey team in order to win and rather rallying around.
• 1:20:41
  It's interesting because I picked them at the beginning of
• 1:20:42
  the year to win the Cup and then I deviate off of it because they
• 1:20:45
  made the coaching change. But they're embracing Tortorello
• 1:20:47
  very well and they're not going to go away easy.
• 1:20:49
  Even if they play Colorado next round, they're not going to go
• 1:20:52
  away easy Vegas by any means, especially with the center that
• 1:20:54
  they have the face off capability they.
• 1:20:55
  Have Everybody loves John Tortorello, Everybody that's a
• 1:20:59
  Ranger fan or even a hockey fan, American fan, loves John
• 1:21:03
  Tortorello. His personality, his, his grudge
• 1:21:06
  against the league and his attacks against certain players,
• 1:21:09
  the way they get treated on the ice.
• 1:21:11
  I mean, everything about John Tortorella screams New Yorker
• 1:21:15
  because that's what he is. I mean, he acts like a New
• 1:21:17
  Yorker. So you root him on.
• 1:21:20
  But I will tell you this, it don't matter if it's Vegas, it
• 1:21:26
  don't matter if it's any, if it's Anaheim, none of them are
• 1:21:30
  beating Colorado. It might.
• 1:21:32
  It might go six games. Might, maybe.
• 1:21:35
  Nobody's being in Colorado, I'm telling you, unless their
• 1:21:38
  goaltending completely falls flat on their face, this team is
• 1:21:42
  too good. I mean, really, really.
• 1:21:44
  So worldly talented. I, I, I, I, I can't say it.
• 1:21:50
  That's all I'm going to say. All right, going into the you're
• 1:21:52
  now shifting to Montreal and I agree with you on the Carolina
• 1:21:54
  angle. I think the same way I mentioned
• 1:21:56
  in basketball where I think it helps the Knicks for resting,
• 1:21:58
  Carolina resting this long, I think it could hurt them because
• 1:22:02
  Montreal tactically has a lot of different ways they've been able
• 1:22:05
  to score in this series. And they I was again, they're
• 1:22:08
  one of the younger teams. You're looking for the veteran
• 1:22:10
  leadership to come through and who's coming through.
• 1:22:12
  It's in Alex Newhook, a guy that was on that Colorado team that
• 1:22:15
  won a cup and Montreal signed him to be one of their veteran
• 1:22:18
  leaders, a hybrid winger center type that has scored five goals
• 1:22:21
  in this series and has provided a spark for them to in addition
• 1:22:23
  to all the younger players that they have with with with Demidov
• 1:22:27
  and Slakovsky. And like you said, there's a lot
• 1:22:28
  of guys that were teen draft picks too.
• 1:22:31
  Slakovsky is the only one that was the number one overall pick.
• 1:22:33
  They've had other guys like Lane Hudson that was a first round
• 1:22:37
  pick who's become one of the best defensive in the league.
• 1:22:40
  But he wasn't like he wasn't hyped up like Dalene was or
• 1:22:43
  anything. I didn't even know Slavkowski
• 1:22:44
  was the number one the. 2022 draft he was the number one pick
• 1:22:47
  and. I didn't even know.
• 1:22:48
  That there was debate over it. The Devils took Simone Nimic at.
• 1:22:50
  Number. I knew he was a top ten pick.
• 1:22:52
  I didn't know he's like. I said he's the only one in that
• 1:22:55
  cluster that's like that where a lot of the other ones have been
• 1:22:57
  built through those teens picks or they built through trades and
• 1:23:01
  fishes were mentioning it a couple of times.
• 1:23:03
  They've taken the Atlanta Braves model of paying them early and
• 1:23:07
  it kind of the opposite of what they did when Carrie Price was
• 1:23:10
  there. They they gave Carrie Price a
• 1:23:11
  big contract and tried to justify by paying a lot of
• 1:23:13
  veterans and those contracts hurt them for a while.
• 1:23:16
  They paid Jay Weber for a while patch already.
• 1:23:19
  They kind of kept too long and they just kept getting blockaded
• 1:23:23
  by that. But now this is a good young
• 1:23:24
  team that's here to stay. Now again, Buffalo will put up a
• 1:23:26
  fight to their defense has been strong first in their wins,
• 1:23:30
  weaker in their losses. We'll see if it comes through.
• 1:23:32
  They're not going to go down easily by any means.
• 1:23:34
  And you look at a case of their where are their veteran players
• 1:23:38
  going to come from? Because I question their
• 1:23:40
  goaltending coming into this post this postseason.
• 1:23:42
  You can't question them now. No, Alex Lyons played well
• 1:23:45
  again, it just I it was still the biggest weakness of their
• 1:23:47
  team. I trust in Montreal a little
• 1:23:48
  more. That's why I had them winning.
• 1:23:50
  But Buffalo, if they can get the level of defensive upside that
• 1:23:54
  we saw in previous series, even early in this series too,
• 1:23:56
  because in addition to Dolly, who's phenomenal, he's one of
• 1:23:59
  the best in the league. You look at Bowen Byram, you
• 1:24:01
  were at his draft was the 4th overall pick from the Colorado
• 1:24:03
  Avalon said Owen Power was the number one pick.
• 1:24:05
  So they have the upside that's there.
• 1:24:07
  But Montreal has the physicality with their defense.
• 1:24:10
  Matheson, who was on the Florida Panthers team that won a Cup.
• 1:24:12
  And that's where I think they still have the edge here.
• 1:24:15
  That Darlene's draft, yes, I know I was there too.
• 1:24:18
  So I, I remember him when he was drafted and I remember how great
• 1:24:22
  everybody said this kid was going to be.
• 1:24:23
  And it took him a while to really develop.
• 1:24:25
  But when he became the developed defenseman that he's becoming
• 1:24:29
  Buffalo leader, captain of the team, he is special.
• 1:24:32
  He really is special. He hits, he scores, he's a
• 1:24:36
  leader, he's a born leader. And it's it's fun.
• 1:24:38
  The NHL playoffs are always fun to watch more than any sport.
• 1:24:42
  Anybody that tunes in and watches playoff hockey, I, we
• 1:24:46
  were, we were at the football field today first thing this guy
• 1:24:49
  that one of the fathers told me, he says, are you watching
• 1:24:51
  hockey? I said, of course we're watching
• 1:24:53
  hockey. And he says, man, there's so
• 1:24:55
  many fights that this is this is great.
• 1:24:57
  He's like, hockey players are tough as hell.
• 1:24:59
  He's like, I thought football players are tough.
• 1:25:01
  Hockey players are even tougher. So it's it's crazy.
• 1:25:05
  It's been fun to watch. The NHL has such a great
• 1:25:07
  product. Congratulations to Gary Bettman.
• 1:25:09
  To me, everybody boos him every single draft.
• 1:25:12
  He has the best product right now in professional sports.
• 1:25:15
  I don't even think that's here. There's an argument right now of
• 1:25:18
  what they're doing right now with the NHL and the growth here
• 1:25:20
  in the United States and throughout the world, so.
• 1:25:23
  Yeah, last thing on Carolina too, I also want to mention
• 1:25:25
  there if there's one weakness that they have, it's been a lot
• 1:25:28
  of these faster teams in transition to which I think both
• 1:25:31
  Montreal and Buffalo have shown they can play at and play and
• 1:25:34
  they can score goals in ripples. Or you've seen Montreal in this
• 1:25:36
  game, you saw Buffalo in game one.
• 1:25:39
  They can score at will. And I think even though
• 1:25:41
  Carolina's defense was only allowed ten goals through eight
• 1:25:44
  games, which is crazy, I think that could be something that can
• 1:25:47
  be exposed because Philly, like you said, Philly's not the same
• 1:25:49
  offensive team by any means at Pittsburgh.
• 1:25:50
  This is the worst year for the metro in a while so they
• 1:25:52
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• 1:25:54
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