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Ep. 25: What Opportunities Does London Provide? | Jags A.M. Podcast · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are getting ready to head to London for two games.
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Speaker 1: You guys have been to most of them, if not
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Speaker 1: all of them. Which ones are your most memorable moments
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Speaker 1: in London?
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Speaker 2: Who you want to start me? I'll go with Buffalo.
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Speaker 3: Jag scored two defensive touchdowns in the span of about
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Speaker 3: thirty seconds of game time and Alan Hurds made an
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Speaker 3: amazing play on the pylon at the end to win
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Speaker 3: the ball game.
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Speaker 2: To win over Buffalo at Wembley was awesome.
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Speaker 4: There's a few.
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Speaker 5: I'll go with the Ravens twenty seventeen. They blew them out.
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Speaker 4: Ravens weren't quite ready for the trip.
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Speaker 5: It didn't seem like but it's that year, Brian was
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Speaker 5: when I knew the Jaguars were good.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to JAG's am here on Wednesday, September twenty sevenths
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Speaker 1: were presented by Jet Homeloans today here in the Hyundai
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Speaker 1: studios and things are looking bright. We're heading to London soon,
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Speaker 1: so I just wanted to check in and hedys ten
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Speaker 1: games it's going to be they've played in London, which yeah,
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Speaker 1: feels like it was like in my mind, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, they just started doing that, but clearly not
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Speaker 1: many many years ago now.
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Speaker 3: And I wrote this for a quick thought. You know,
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Speaker 3: people were nervous about what London meant for Jacksonville. But
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Speaker 3: you know, a decade later now with negotiations started on
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Speaker 3: a new stadium here. I mean, it's clear that London
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Speaker 3: has been what John and Mark said it would be,
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Speaker 3: which is an accouterment to a small market. More than that, though, John,
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Speaker 3: you look at what the league is doing. You know,
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Speaker 3: they're playing multiple games in multiple countries every year. They're
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Speaker 3: talking about expanding to Spain and Brazil. The Jaguars were
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Speaker 3: a bit ahead of the curve. Now everybody wants to
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Speaker 3: play games outside of the country and expand their marketing base.
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Speaker 3: It's been good for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 5: And everybody sort of wants a sister city if you sure,
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Speaker 5: every team sort of wants, and I think they gave
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Speaker 5: out last off season. Two off seasons ago they sort
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Speaker 5: of assigned some teams some territories.
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Speaker 2: Over there, twenty one teams with marketing.
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Speaker 5: Rights, so shad From early on, Mark wanted London as
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Speaker 5: sort of their auxiliary and market, if you will.
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Speaker 4: They were ahead of the curve, as you said, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, they're marketing in Africa. Now in Ghana, I believe
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Speaker 3: someone's got Nigeria. They're in Switzerland. I mean, they are
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Speaker 3: expanding rapidly their footprint. I just got done reading a
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Speaker 3: book called The Club, which is about the Premier League.
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Speaker 3: And it's interesting because the Premier League modeled the NFL stadiums,
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Speaker 3: and now the NFL is modeling the Premier League's global reach.
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Speaker 1: It's so cool to see football actually expanding. I know
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Speaker 1: it's huge in America, but internationally hasn't always been that way.
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Speaker 1: So now to see it getting a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a foothold. I remember that Mexico City game was really cool,
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Speaker 1: and it's just nice to see it growing.
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Speaker 3: And the Jaguars have a big staff in London and
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Speaker 3: they do a lot of work on the ground in London,
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Speaker 3: and so it's become a valuable part of the Jaguars
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Speaker 3: as a franchise.
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Speaker 4: Jaguars need that Trinidad Tobago mark.
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Speaker 6: That would be the worst trip.
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Speaker 2: I would certainly it wouldn't suck to have to go
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Speaker 2: to Rio j Jennio for a gag.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, that's the new territory they
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Speaker 1: need for sure. All right, let's go over some of
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Speaker 1: our big things this week, because there are a few
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Speaker 1: of them. The truth is the first one. We talked
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Speaker 1: about this all on Monday. We rehashed it wasn't to
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Speaker 1: look it didn't. They didn't play well against the Texans.
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Speaker 1: They haven't looked good in a couple of weeks and
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Speaker 1: they needed to hear it. Luke Fordner said Doug Peterson
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Speaker 1: was not shying away from it when he talked to
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Speaker 1: them about it.
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Speaker 7: Coach Peterson not a very good one, you know. He
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Speaker 7: came in and he was honest and told to say,
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Speaker 7: we're not where we want to be, and we have
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Speaker 7: a long way to go, and collectively, we're gonna have
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Speaker 7: to work, you know, every single day, every single week
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Speaker 7: to get to that point.
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Speaker 1: Brian, I didn't imagine Doug was going to mince words
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Speaker 1: with them, but it's nice to hear that he actually
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Speaker 1: went in there and kind of helped court a little bit.
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Speaker 6: Because he's a player's coach. He's a nice guy. But
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Speaker 6: when you need to hear it, you got.
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Speaker 2: To hear it well.
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Speaker 3: And I thought he started that the week before when
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Speaker 3: he told the media, hey, we didn't practice very well
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Speaker 3: last week, and then it became the narrative leading up
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Speaker 3: to the game against the Texans, and the players in
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Speaker 3: the locker room had to answer questions about why didn't
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Speaker 3: you practice well?
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Speaker 2: And are you going to practice well this week?
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Speaker 3: So for him to go in on Monday is just
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Speaker 3: consistent and see on his part and say, look, we
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Speaker 3: didn't play well again, and I'm going to tell the
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Speaker 3: media we didn't play well again and why.
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Speaker 2: So you all have to understand.
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Speaker 3: It and be able to answer the questions, both to
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Speaker 3: each other and to the guys who are going to
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Speaker 3: come in here with microphones.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it does a players coach, but you've never gotten
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Speaker 5: a feeling from players that he coddles him. He knows
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Speaker 5: to tell him what they want to hear. Sometimes you
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Speaker 5: need a foot in your ear end.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and hopefully that's exactly what they need this week.
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Speaker 6: Now. The noise is our.
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Speaker 1: Second big thing because there were high expectations for this team.
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Speaker 6: We've been talking about it for months.
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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. Of course, the offense, we expected a lot
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Speaker 1: out of everybody. Andra Cisco said the team is now
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Speaker 1: doing their best. Whether they bought into that or not.
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Speaker 1: To put that out of mind, I.
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Speaker 8: Think that's something that happens naturally. I mean ESPN's on
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Speaker 8: all day twenty four to seven. You'll see yourself on
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Speaker 8: TV at random moments. I for myself, I don't think
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Speaker 8: it does. It affects me too much. Everybody handled it differently,
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Speaker 8: and I think anybody who I can't say I've been
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Speaker 8: walking around the locker room and see a guy get
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Speaker 8: big headed over it or anything like that, because it's
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Speaker 8: part of the of the game. I mean, if you've
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Speaker 8: made it to the NFL, you've had a ton of
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Speaker 8: spot light already, so being able to handle the expectations
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Speaker 8: it is a little bit different being in the NFL.
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Speaker 8: But we've had a lot of guys that've had a
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Speaker 8: ton of stuff in the week.
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Speaker 1: John I wasn't around the team feeling like they were
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Speaker 1: necessarily overly cocky and thought they should be given these games.
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Speaker 1: But obviously human reaction. You listen to some of the hype,
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Speaker 1: but I think all of that has gone.
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Speaker 4: Now, yeah it should be. I'm not big on the noise.
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Speaker 5: I hear it, but I try to look at what's
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Speaker 5: really going on, and the reality is they weren't very
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Speaker 5: good on Sunday. I think they were okay, except offense
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Speaker 5: against the Chiefs. This isn't noise, but the reality is,
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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, Sunday is really big because you're
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Speaker 5: one and two. You haven't played well. If you have
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Speaker 5: another stinker, you've all of a sudden dug yourself a
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Speaker 5: hole that takes a while to get out of. It's
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Speaker 5: hard to win every week in this league. You're one
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Speaker 5: in three. Now, if you win three and lose one,
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Speaker 5: you're still five. You know, you're still crawling out of
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Speaker 5: that hole. Week four is always big for those one
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Speaker 5: and two teams because you feel out of it if
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Speaker 5: you drop so noise aside and I can say the
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Speaker 5: team's bad, but if they play bad Sunday, they're a
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Speaker 5: bad team.
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Speaker 3: Right now, Hey, look, the noise is double sided, right
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Speaker 3: The noise is the expectations that obvious. Leandre talked about.
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Speaker 3: The noise this week is, Hey, they're not a good
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Speaker 3: football team. They're not playing very well. The offensive line
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Speaker 3: isn't very good, or the defensive pass rush isn't very good.
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Speaker 3: I mean, whatever that noise may be, they really have
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Speaker 3: to lock out. I mean, if John and I and
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Speaker 3: you can sit here and talk about what one in
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Speaker 3: three might mean, they've figured it out. They just need
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Speaker 3: to dial in and focus on the message from Doug
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Speaker 3: and the work that they can do, because the challenge
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Speaker 3: of the Falcons is significant, no matter what the outside
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Speaker 3: noise says. You know, the matchup problems that they create.
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Speaker 3: They got to be solely focused on that and ky
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Speaker 3: another thing. You know, Gus Bradley didn't have the greatest
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Speaker 3: record when he was the head coach here, that is
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Speaker 3: no secret, but he did have a good I thought
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Speaker 3: model of what he wanted players to do, and that
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Speaker 3: was to come in here and focus on being the
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Speaker 3: best player they could be, not to worry about the
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Speaker 3: guy next to them or the guy across from them,
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Speaker 3: but just do what they do because if they were
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Speaker 3: completely confident and comfortable in doing what they do, the
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Speaker 3: anxiety would go away.
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Speaker 2: On Sunday.
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Speaker 3: I would love to see that be the mindset for
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Speaker 3: this football team is just focus on doing my job
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Speaker 3: and doing my job to the best of my ability
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Speaker 3: and not worrying about what the guy next to me
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Speaker 3: or the guy across me is doing, and that might
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Speaker 3: alleviate some of the anxiety.
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Speaker 1: It leads us into our final big thing, which is
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Speaker 1: going to be the work this week. Doug Peterson was
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Speaker 1: very candid when he said he didn't feel the team
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Speaker 1: practice very well in Chiefs. Week saw a bad outcome there,
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Speaker 1: although it was mostly the offense that struggled. Then last
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Speaker 1: week everybody struggled even though they seemingly had a good
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Speaker 1: week of practice. So Don Peterson talked earlier this week
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Speaker 1: a little bit about what he wants to see from
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Speaker 1: his team.
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Speaker 9: A little bit of a hole we've put ourselves in.
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Speaker 9: I just want to see how these guys respond. I
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Speaker 9: want to see the energy on Wednesday. I want to
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Speaker 9: see the attention to detail, how do they attack the
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Speaker 9: walk through the meetings, you know, the practice that day,
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Speaker 9: and just how do they respond right? And obviously they're
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Speaker 9: they're they're frustrated today, disappointed today because they know, I mean,
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Speaker 9: I painted a pretty vibrant picture for him this morning,
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Speaker 9: and uh, we all know where we are, and but
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Speaker 9: we all know where we can go and where we
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Speaker 9: where we can or what we can become as a
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Speaker 9: football team. And and you know they get excited for
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Speaker 9: that part of it.
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Speaker 1: John, good practice, bad practice for me. I think it's
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Speaker 1: really going to come down to game time again and
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Speaker 1: what they're actually gonna put together.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's a tough way.
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Speaker 5: It's it's one of the more fascinating weeks that I
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Speaker 5: can remember around here.
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Speaker 4: And I'm really.
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Speaker 5: Interested to watch this game, instant to watch all of them. Brian,
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Speaker 5: that's the job. But I you know, I agree with Kay.
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Speaker 5: I don't know that it's as much about the work
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Speaker 5: this week. I'm assuming they have a good practice. They're
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Speaker 5: gonna be motivated. They've got a foot in their butt.
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Speaker 5: They haven't played well and they want to proof. To me,
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Speaker 5: the game is gonna be interesting. If they're down seven
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Speaker 5: to nothing in the second quarter, how they react to
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Speaker 5: that after all the noise, after hey, relax, play your game.
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Speaker 5: All of a sudden you're down. It's hard to relax.
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Speaker 5: So to me, it is a really fascinating game. It's
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Speaker 5: a big game. It's a dangerous game on that front
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Speaker 5: because the Falcons aren't bad. They can run. It's I'm
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Speaker 5: sort of at a loss for how to preanalyze it
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Speaker 5: because we've preoralized it so much. It's about that moment,
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Speaker 5: and it won't know that moment until Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Well, and I'll stick with the psychology because I've been
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Speaker 3: talking about it for two weeks There are plenty of
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Speaker 3: reasons for the Jaguars to not feel confident, but there's
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Speaker 3: plenty of reasons for them to feel confident. They know, right,
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Speaker 3: you've got Trevor Lawrence and Calvin Ridley and Christian Kirk.
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Speaker 3: You've got players on both sides of the line of
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Speaker 3: scrimmage that you can line up with and win. So
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Speaker 3: they've got to get over that. Here's why I'm not
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Speaker 3: confident and how do I get to confidence? And John,
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Speaker 3: you said it right, It's about making a play. If
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Speaker 3: Calvin catches that ball at the goal line, I think
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Speaker 3: everybody who's watching, let alone everyone who's sitting on this
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Speaker 3: set would agree the game is different because then everyone
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Speaker 3: calms down. They're looking for a calm down moment. Hopefully
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Speaker 3: that happens on the first drive. Whether it's a sack,
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Speaker 3: strip fumble right or whether it's a touchdown pass. Get
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Speaker 3: that calm down moment and everybody focus.
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Speaker 2: On doing your job.
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Speaker 1: Nice, nice breath of fresh air is what we're all
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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break. We will be back
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Speaker 1: and we will talk about the AFC South and what's
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Speaker 1: going on around the division. We're back here on jags
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Speaker 1: Am today and we're gonna talk a little bit about
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Speaker 1: the AFC South because we like to keep track of
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Speaker 1: what everybody else is doing. And don't look now, but
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Speaker 1: the Colts are leading the AFC South after another performance
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Speaker 1: from a familiar face. Gardnermentshew playing because Anthony Richardson was hurt,
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Speaker 1: and they got a win over the Ravens last week.
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Speaker 6: And are they good?
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Speaker 3: Well, they've got some good players, okay, Gardner minsh'll get
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Speaker 3: you six wins.
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Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, And it'll be interesting if they play him,
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Speaker 5: which they may be tempted to.
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Speaker 4: How sustainable it is.
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Speaker 5: It never felt sustainable here, Maybe it'll be different there.
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Speaker 5: I think they've got an okay defense. I think fans
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Speaker 5: sort of underrated that defense going into that over.
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Speaker 4: I think we all did.
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Speaker 5: Frog seven is very good, pretty good defensively. And I'll
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Speaker 5: tell you, if you're the Jaguars, if there's going to
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Speaker 5: be a team ahead of you early, you don't mind
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Speaker 5: it being them, sure, because you beat them and.
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Speaker 4: You reel it back in very quickly.
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Speaker 5: I'd rather have the Colts a game ahead than the
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Speaker 5: Texans right now, because the Texans have an advantage.
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Speaker 3: You know, I don't think I underrated their front. I
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Speaker 3: think I overrated the dag Wars offensive line, to be
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Speaker 3: honest with you, And their front is good. Grover Stewart
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Speaker 3: is an underrated player for sure. Look if they're putting
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Speaker 3: some points on the board, that defense is going to
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Speaker 3: be a real beast.
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Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit about what Jonathan Taylor
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Speaker 1: situation is the second time around.
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Speaker 2: We could see him here.
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Speaker 1: That could be a very different game that second time
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Speaker 1: around when we get back from London, So keep an
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Speaker 1: eye on that.
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Speaker 6: Of course, the Titans they've.
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Speaker 1: Got troubles in Nashville as well because they fell big
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Speaker 1: time to the Browns and they didn't score touchdown either.
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Speaker 1: So we just talked last week we kind of saw
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Speaker 1: a little bit of something out of quarterback play. But
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Speaker 1: now Derrick Henry is still not that Dereck Henry were
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Speaker 1: used to seeing.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Dereck Henry has been a non factor so far.
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Speaker 3: The other side of the coin, though, is the up
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Speaker 3: and down is Ryan Tannehill. He was terrible on opening
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Speaker 3: Day with three interceptions, then last week rebounds and leads
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Speaker 3: the league in yards per completion to ten point three. Well,
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Speaker 3: then last week he reverts no Derick Henry four point two. Right,
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Speaker 3: they are so inconsistent in their passing. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: say that we've seen wild inconsistency here as well. But
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Speaker 3: that's why I think they've got a problem. They committed
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Speaker 3: to another season of Tannehill and Derrick Henry and it
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Speaker 3: doesn't appear like they're capable of carrying that thing through
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Speaker 3: for another year.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Browns might be pretty good if there's a
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Speaker 5: red flag there for the Titans. It lost the Browns
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Speaker 5: big after the Browns had a primetime game the week
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Speaker 5: before and Monday Night and sometimes let down Browns and
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Speaker 5: it wasn't that would concern.
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Speaker 4: You a little bit.
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Speaker 5: Again, Rabel usually figures out a way to keep that
13:27
Speaker 5: team competitive, unless it's just time, which your theory is
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Speaker 5: for that friend of time, I'd still rather have that
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Speaker 5: team four or five games out than close at the end.
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Speaker 3: I think there's a chance we could see Malik Willis,
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Speaker 3: who had a really strong summer and a preseason that
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Speaker 3: will if he's practicing well and that thing is not
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Speaker 3: going anywhere by the time they get to us. In November,
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Speaker 3: we could see Malik Willis.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I hope that's true. I hope they're nowhere
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Speaker 6: near us.
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Speaker 3: Well, based on what we saw last year, however, apparently
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Speaker 3: you know, the lights going on for that kid and
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Speaker 3: he was playing well.
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Speaker 6: Okay, we'll have to check in on that.
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Speaker 1: And of course Texans we saw that firsthand what they
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Speaker 1: were capable of. But C. J. Stroud just looked magnificent. Magnificent.
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Speaker 1: He's off to a historic start. Over nine hundred yards passing,
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Speaker 1: four touchdowns and no interceptions.
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Speaker 6: No quarterback rookie quarterback has ever done that.
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Speaker 1: He's only behind passing yards for rookie quarterback Cam Newton
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Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert. That's some pretty good company. And he
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Speaker 1: seems like the real deal so far.
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Speaker 3: Right, Well, look, he was playing with the lead for
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Speaker 3: the first time in his NFL career and he was
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Speaker 3: very impressive.
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Speaker 2: He was calm, he made good decisions.
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Speaker 3: The way that he picked up that Tank Dell Streak
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Speaker 3: route on the blitz was I mean, it won the game.
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Speaker 3: So there's nothing you can say about this kid except
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Speaker 3: that he has impressed losing winning, you know, in front
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Speaker 3: of the media, on the field, he's the real deal.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jaywars helped him look good.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think everybody would say one of the
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Speaker 5: bullet point disappointments was that you didn't sack Stroud and
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Speaker 5: therefore you didn't force him into a pick.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he will.
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Speaker 5: Well, I still believe at some point this year he
15:02
Speaker 5: will struggle with turnovers because Ricky quarterback student, somebody will
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Speaker 5: hit him and that clock in the head will go faster.
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Speaker 5: The Jaguars defense was negligent on that front.
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Speaker 4: On Sunday, he did.
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Speaker 6: Make him look very very good.
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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're gonna go over this or
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Speaker 1: that for this upcoming week's game against the Falcons.
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Speaker 6: Stay with us.
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Speaker 1: This is this or this or that is presented by
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15:34
Speaker 1: situation here as we head to London. We're gonna go
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Speaker 1: over some of what they're going through. Brian, what's your
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Speaker 1: this or that for us?
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, so I have read I've heard people
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Speaker 3: say this is the perfect week for the Draguars to
15:46
Speaker 3: get on the plane and to go to London. So
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Speaker 3: my question is this, you know, is this the perfect
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Speaker 3: week for that or would it be better to get
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Speaker 3: into the root to stay in the routine and keep
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Speaker 3: doing what you do until you do it better.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's a right or wrong answer to
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Speaker 2: this one. Just curious what you think.
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Speaker 5: Oh, I'd always it's always better stay home. I mean so,
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Speaker 5: and I think most NFL coaches to tell you if
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Speaker 5: it's a routine business Monday Tuesday, you know, everything's the
16:15
Speaker 5: same every week. So I don't think. I'm not sure
16:21
Speaker 5: it's ever a great week in terms of preparation, in
16:25
Speaker 5: terms of ease, But this team knows how to do this,
16:28
Speaker 5: so I don't think it's a negative either.
16:30
Speaker 6: For me. It's kind of if it was one game,
16:31
Speaker 6: I probably say no.
16:32
Speaker 1: But because it's too it's almost like you're going and
16:35
Speaker 1: kind of setting something up. It's its own little two
16:37
Speaker 1: game set, if you will, to use a baseball reference.
16:40
Speaker 1: But that's why I kind of like it, because you're
16:42
Speaker 1: going there, you're gonna set up home base, be there
16:44
Speaker 1: for you know, twelve days. I think we're going to
16:46
Speaker 1: be there, So that makes it a little bit different
16:49
Speaker 1: for me. If it was just going in and back,
16:51
Speaker 1: that would probably be probably wouldn't like that as much.
16:53
Speaker 1: But I think this fact will be there for two
16:55
Speaker 1: weeks will allow it to be a little bit different.
16:58
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
16:58
Speaker 4: Got to get some dubs, Yeah, let's go.
17:00
Speaker 5: So I went with is it a must win game
17:05
Speaker 5: or a really really big game? And that sounds like
17:08
Speaker 5: the same thing, But I think there's a difference there.
17:10
Speaker 5: I don't think it's must win because if you go
17:12
Speaker 5: to one and three, we saw last year two and six,
17:15
Speaker 5: you can pull out of.
17:15
Speaker 4: These things in this league.
17:18
Speaker 5: So technically it's not, but it just feels so big
17:24
Speaker 5: in terms of judging where this team is.
17:29
Speaker 4: I guess, to me, if they.
17:31
Speaker 5: Play well and lose, then I don't think it's a
17:34
Speaker 5: must win game, meaning you can play well in the
17:37
Speaker 5: NFL and lose on a weird play.
17:38
Speaker 4: Okay, well, they're not a mess.
17:41
Speaker 5: It's really really important that it not looks like a
17:43
Speaker 5: messicgan I think is the biggest thing that I would feel,
17:46
Speaker 5: you know, because I don't think this team's a mess,
17:49
Speaker 5: but if you show it two weeks in a row,
17:52
Speaker 5: then you are. So I think it's that that's what's
17:55
Speaker 5: intriguing to me. They didn't look good on Sunday. If
17:59
Speaker 5: you don't look good twice, then something's wrong.
18:01
Speaker 3: Well, and I'm going to lean into the must win
18:03
Speaker 3: because if Doug is struggling to get them to believe
18:06
Speaker 3: in themselves, right to be confident when they crossed the
18:08
Speaker 3: fifty yard line get into a scoring situation, and it
18:12
Speaker 3: sounds like does just sound like it looks.
18:14
Speaker 2: Like he is.
18:15
Speaker 3: I would hate to figure out what one in three
18:18
Speaker 3: would do to this team headed to Buffalo, well to
18:20
Speaker 3: totten him to play Buffalo, because the Bills are all
18:22
Speaker 3: of a sudden put it on people thirty seven three.
18:24
Speaker 3: I mean they just took the Commanders to the woodshed
18:27
Speaker 3: last week. So I would say this is a must
18:29
Speaker 3: win for a team that needs to feel confident going
18:31
Speaker 3: up against one of the elite teams in the AFC
18:34
Speaker 3: in Buffalo, because you've already got a loss to the
18:36
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs and you don't want to fall behind
18:39
Speaker 3: in those standings.
18:40
Speaker 1: That leads into my this or that, which is a
18:42
Speaker 1: little bit of an either or if you can only
18:44
Speaker 1: have one. Do you want to beat the Falcons or
18:46
Speaker 1: do you want to beat the Bills, because if you
18:48
Speaker 1: want to beat the Bills, have a statement win, it's
18:49
Speaker 1: gonna get worse before it gets better. Or do you
18:51
Speaker 1: want them to kind of get it back on track,
18:53
Speaker 1: and then if they play a good game where we
18:54
Speaker 1: talked about they played the Chiefs but they lost, but
18:57
Speaker 1: they played well, it wasn't as disturbing.
19:00
Speaker 6: Think about that. Which one would you rather.
19:01
Speaker 3: Well, I think I'd rather have the Falcons. I'd rather
19:04
Speaker 3: have this team get onto two and two and see
19:07
Speaker 3: it calm down so that they could play a game
19:09
Speaker 3: against the Bills where.
19:10
Speaker 2: They're confident, where they feel better about themselves.
19:12
Speaker 3: So I'll go give me the Falcons with even though
19:14
Speaker 3: I know it's not a conference game and it doesn't
19:16
Speaker 3: you know, have as much bearing on tiebreakers and things
19:19
Speaker 3: like that. I'd like to see them, you know, what
19:21
Speaker 3: is the right phrase get out of their own way
19:24
Speaker 3: this week?
19:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, if if I'm sitting at the end of the season,
19:28
Speaker 5: they can say a bill, I'm saying Bills because you
19:31
Speaker 5: can sort of see that, but I can't see. It's
19:36
Speaker 5: hard for me to see them beating the Bills if
19:39
Speaker 5: they don't beat the Falcons.
19:41
Speaker 1: Now, that's what if it's one of those fluky last
19:43
Speaker 1: second things where they the Falcons pull out a win
19:45
Speaker 1: and then they.
19:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean and in this league you sit there
19:49
Speaker 5: and say that and then all of a sudden, teams
19:51
Speaker 5: come out and they play lights out and they beat
19:53
Speaker 5: the Bills when you didn't meet the falcons, and it's like, well, John.
19:55
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
19:56
Speaker 5: But right now I've got to say the falcons because
20:01
Speaker 5: it feels so important, And maybe that's more of a
20:04
Speaker 5: perception thing. I think people observing could understand the loss
20:09
Speaker 5: to the Bills more than they could the falcons. So
20:11
Speaker 5: in that sense, maybe you take the falcons.
20:14
Speaker 6: I don't know if there's a right answer. I just
20:15
Speaker 6: like to do a little fun, would you rather for you?
20:18
Speaker 4: Oh?
20:18
Speaker 6: That was fun, guy, I had so much fun.
20:20
Speaker 1: All right, stay with us. We'll be right back and
20:21
Speaker 1: we'll preview what we've got going on the rest of
20:23
Speaker 1: the week. You're talking about getting back on schedule, getting
20:27
Speaker 1: to routine. Wednesday here of London week is normal, par
20:32
Speaker 1: for the course, right, it's Thursday that they go through.
20:35
Speaker 1: I think the first half of the day is normal.
20:36
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna get on a plane and go to
20:38
Speaker 1: London overnight. Is that as hard as it sounds to
20:41
Speaker 1: kind of do the red Eye and then practice or
20:43
Speaker 1: is that the best way to do it?
20:44
Speaker 5: It's it's not.
20:47
Speaker 6: I mean, it's I guess we're not practicing, so it's
20:49
Speaker 6: not hard.
20:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's as normal as you can make it.
20:54
Speaker 5: Because the Friday practice Brian is such a light practice anyway,
20:59
Speaker 5: even here it's a different thing. So people figured out
21:02
Speaker 5: that the way to do it is just go hard prep.
21:05
Speaker 5: I think the Falcons w believe in the same time
21:07
Speaker 5: the jagr If you're going over there, you either go
21:10
Speaker 5: early in the week, like a Monday, which most teams
21:12
Speaker 5: don't do anymore, or you do it this way because
21:15
Speaker 5: you can go hard, get your big preparation, get as
21:18
Speaker 5: close to a normal Friday, your dog tired, but then
21:22
Speaker 5: by Saturday Sunday your body clock's back. So I mean it,
21:26
Speaker 5: it's harder than driving five minutes home, but it's not
21:30
Speaker 5: hard in the grand scheme of things compared to what.
21:33
Speaker 2: It could be.
21:33
Speaker 3: They've got a pretty good routine, you know. The folks
21:36
Speaker 3: who handle the logistics in all of the details have
21:39
Speaker 3: done this enough that they understand what needs to be done.
21:42
Speaker 3: I'll say that I can remember Landing one year and
21:44
Speaker 3: we went to the hotel and we had time before
21:46
Speaker 3: we had to get on a bus to go to practice,
21:48
Speaker 3: and I fell asleep and slept through the whole thing.
21:50
Speaker 3: So I think it depends on how well you manage
21:53
Speaker 3: yourself on that plane. I mean, you force yourself to
21:56
Speaker 3: put the eye shades on and go to sleep so
21:58
Speaker 3: that you can wake up and have a chance. It's
22:00
Speaker 3: when you land to be at your best for the
22:02
Speaker 3: practice field. You know, some guys will, some guys won't.
22:04
Speaker 3: And then hopefully Saturday is an easy day for him too,
22:06
Speaker 3: So take some.
22:07
Speaker 1: Naps on Saturday. Maybe you see what we have to do.
22:10
Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna preview that
22:12
Speaker 1: Falcons matchup fully and get some more tips before we
22:14
Speaker 1: go to London out. I'm gonna have to get some
22:16
Speaker 1: packing tips from you guys.
22:17
Speaker 2: How you're gonna take it more than we are.
22:20
Speaker 6: I know John's the fashion Dave and so hell help
22:22
Speaker 6: me out, but I.
22:23
Speaker 4: Do take my wardrobe very seriously.
22:25
Speaker 2: Do you have a hair dryer with you or you
22:26
Speaker 2: or did you call one?
22:28
Speaker 4: If I had a hairdresser?
22:31
Speaker 3: Well, my wife always asked he is the hotel with
22:33
Speaker 3: a hair dryer because she wonders whether she has to
22:35
Speaker 3: take hers?
22:36
Speaker 4: Almost always do.
22:36
Speaker 6: We're gonna find out, all right, We'll see you guys,
22:39
Speaker 6: tomorrow morning,