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- 0:00Speaker 1: Do you remember for something you heard the legend the
- 0:02Speaker 1: Korea end up with nothing.
- 0:09Speaker 2: But you hate it's about to get play point out
- 0:12Speaker 2: on a bread.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Put the bottle, EXTA. Have you had a cream cheese
- 0:24Speaker 3: or like, man, that was the best cream cheese I
- 0:28Speaker 3: think I've ever had in my life? Or is all
- 0:30Speaker 3: cream cheese pretty much like, yeah, that's cream cheese.
- 0:34Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I so, I am not a
- 0:36Speaker 4: cream cheese connoisseur, if that's what you're.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Asking either, I'm not either, But I've never been able
- 0:43Speaker 3: to like notice a difference between like the off brand
- 0:48Speaker 3: stuff and the on brand stuff to where the point
- 0:50Speaker 3: where I'm like, I often wonder strolling down that portion
- 0:55Speaker 3: of the grocery store where I'm like, how does name
- 0:57Speaker 3: brand cream cheese stay in business?
- 1:00Speaker 2: But because your cream cheese is saying with with jam
- 1:04Speaker 2: is the best way, so I can.
- 1:06Speaker 3: I've had cream cheese with jam. It's it's pretty good.
- 1:10Speaker 3: It's I'm not I'm not gonna knock it, but you know,
- 1:13Speaker 3: at the same time, it's just like great value cream
- 1:17Speaker 3: cheese and Philadelphia cream cheese tastes identical to me.
- 1:21Speaker 4: I do feel like I wonder because you know, like
- 1:24Speaker 4: you could get obviously farm fresh milk. Like have you
- 1:26Speaker 4: ever seen like farm fresh cream cheese? I haven't, so,
- 1:31Speaker 4: Like I wonder if that would be real good, or
- 1:34Speaker 4: if there's something about the process of making cream cheese
- 1:36Speaker 4: where it's like no longer, uh you know, is cream
- 1:42Speaker 4: cheese actually cheese? It's like one of those things like
- 1:48Speaker 4: is Subway bread bread or cake? This is an excellent
- 1:54Speaker 4: life question. This is not the posed to me before
- 1:57Speaker 4: that before.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Cheese is in indeed a type of cheese.
- 2:01Speaker 3: You didn't know that Subway cannot call their bread bread
- 2:05Speaker 3: legally because there's too there's sugar content is too high. Ah?
- 2:10Speaker 3: Is that how?
- 2:11Speaker 4: Like the other day, my wife was looking through various
- 2:14Speaker 4: ice cream brands and like trying to find one with
- 2:17Speaker 4: like low cholesterol.
- 2:19Speaker 3: And then she gets.
- 2:19Speaker 4: Home and I'm like, why is this say on this
- 2:23Speaker 4: dairy treat? It doesn't actually say ice cream anywhere on it,
- 2:30Speaker 4: but I mean it was dairy, so it wasn't mede
- 2:33Speaker 4: with milk, but maybe just not with with cream or whatever.
- 2:37Speaker 3: So I don't know. See, these are all great questions
- 2:42Speaker 3: because the only one that's been proven is that the
- 2:44Speaker 3: tuna at Subway is actually a fish. This is believe
- 2:49Speaker 3: this or not? This has been studied. A lot suit.
- 2:52Speaker 3: A lawsuit came against Subway because they thought the tuna
- 2:58Speaker 3: in Subway was not actually tuna, and then they did
- 3:02Speaker 3: a test and it turns out it's tuna.
- 3:05Speaker 4: But what is that? How Like you go get a
- 3:07Speaker 4: California role and it's like not actually crab meat.
- 3:11Speaker 2: Well, there are a lot of ways. Yeah, there's well
- 3:13Speaker 2: there's a lot of there's a lot of ways to
- 3:15Speaker 2: go ahead and imposter a flavor with something that is
- 3:18Speaker 2: not actually it. So that's interesting.
- 3:21Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's going on? Everybody? I am the one,
- 3:23Speaker 3: the only, the w o okay, I e joined here
- 3:25Speaker 3: by the normal cast of misfits. We got the smoke Show,
- 3:30Speaker 3: draz cor.
- 3:31Speaker 4: That's going guys. Oh I got the smoke Show. I
- 3:33Speaker 4: haven't had that in a while. Yeah, I figured I
- 3:35Speaker 4: dust off. Yeah did you hear it? Dust like sneezing
- 3:42Speaker 4: coughing from the dust.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Yeah. And we got the Ewaki is the blocks ewok Jr.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Hello, key for community. Glad to be learning all about
- 3:50Speaker 2: cream cheese tonight with you all.
- 3:52Speaker 3: And we're gonna start. We're gonna jump right in with
- 3:56Speaker 3: our favorite segment, op News would actor Sheep, Sheep, what
- 4:01Speaker 3: do we got for OLP news? Mm hmm interesting? Interesting?
- 4:10Speaker 3: And uh, what do we know about the prize support
- 4:13Speaker 3: that's going to be happening at Worlds this year? Ah?
- 4:19Speaker 3: Got it?
- 4:20Speaker 4: So for those of you wondering, Sheep's not Sheep's not here,
- 4:24Speaker 4: and we also know none of those none of that information. Well,
- 4:28Speaker 4: he's on assignment. He's on assignment in Madrid. The VT
- 4:33Speaker 4: he had he had to take fraud home.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Weird. He spent thirty six hundred dollars just to rent fraud.
- 4:44Speaker 4: Kind of the previous owner I believe lived in lives Poland.
- 4:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Poland sounds right, but I think it
- 4:55Speaker 3: won its first vault in Madrid. That could be That
- 5:01Speaker 3: could be right. It was definitely in Europe.
- 5:07Speaker 2: All right, Well, wow, you we are just all over here,
- 5:11Speaker 2: all over tonight. I will say sheep as an old man,
- 5:14Speaker 2: maybe close to getting up. It's three fifty two in
- 5:17Speaker 2: the morning there, So good luck, my friend, because for
- 5:20Speaker 2: you it is Friday, and that means that it is
- 5:22Speaker 2: vault to her day. So go ahead.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exciting, but we have news we got to
- 5:31Speaker 3: write up. It's not the ever so sumptuous right up.
- 5:38Speaker 3: We've all been waiting for about what happened at gen
- 5:41Speaker 3: Con Nationals.
- 5:43Speaker 2: All right, so I can see the first one because
- 5:47Speaker 2: we're talking here. Adam Innslain Pink Fraud July nineteenth to
- 5:51Speaker 2: twenty first, during Age of Ascension took down Arkan Survival
- 5:57Speaker 2: where it was from. That was over in Nuremberg, Germany.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Okay, it was Germany. I thought it might have been
- 6:02Speaker 3: like Germany or Polar Germany. Okay, yeah.
- 6:05Speaker 2: And then and then the second on September twenty seventh,
- 6:10Speaker 2: twenty ninth. I mean we were in the twenty sixth
- 6:12Speaker 2: guys here, so that would be the twenty seventh. That
- 6:15Speaker 2: was in Madrid, Spain. Oh it did okay, yeah, it did.
- 6:19Speaker 3: So five years ago today.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Well four years ago. We're a couple hours behind because
- 6:27Speaker 2: we're on the twenty sixth, but for sheep, it is
- 6:29Speaker 2: the twenty seventh there, so yeah.
- 6:30Speaker 3: So it's it's like it's like Fraud's birthday.
- 6:34Speaker 2: It is Freud's birthday.
- 6:35Speaker 3: Happen to good. But we are talking about the new
- 6:43Speaker 3: Ember Skies. Oh my goodness, give me miss the president.
- 6:52Speaker 3: We do need to talk about before we get into
- 6:54Speaker 3: the disc cards. We do need to talk about the
- 6:57Speaker 3: new article that was released. Again, it is not the
- 6:59Speaker 3: US Nationals up. So calm down, everybody. I know you're super.
- 7:03Speaker 2: What what what happened to the US Nationals write up?
- 7:06Speaker 3: Who knows?
- 7:08Speaker 4: Sorry?
- 7:08Speaker 2: Past is that already?
- 7:10Speaker 3: It's right, it's I'll tell you what. It's right next
- 7:14Speaker 3: to It's right next to the prize for Worlds but
- 7:19Speaker 3: right below five op so yep, so it's somewhere.
- 7:28Speaker 4: I think Jeremy just don't publish right, just like does
- 7:31Speaker 4: that sounds familiar.
- 7:34Speaker 2: About?
- 7:34Speaker 3: It is tough to hit the published button. I am
- 7:37Speaker 3: not gonna lie like it's rough. You know, sometimes you
- 7:42Speaker 3: just you pass your computer and you're like, did I
- 7:44Speaker 3: hit publish? Yeah? I hit publish. Yeah, it's good. And
- 7:48Speaker 3: then you find out you find out a week later
- 7:50Speaker 3: you didn't. It happens. But for Ember Skies we are
- 7:58Speaker 3: getting a pre release event. The English language of release
- 8:03Speaker 3: will be October twenty fourth, No, No eighteenth, I'm sorry eighteenth.
- 8:08Speaker 3: I don't know where I pulled the twenty fourth straight
- 8:11Speaker 3: out of my butthole. Yeah, literally, literally, I don't know
- 8:13Speaker 3: where that number even. I don't even know where the number, like,
- 8:18Speaker 3: I don't even have a good excuse today, like I
- 8:20Speaker 3: don't have like like I'm not looking at something that
- 8:23Speaker 3: says like twenty four. I don't have twenty four of anything.
- 8:27Speaker 3: I literally just made.
- 8:28Speaker 4: That, and I'm like even in a cream cheese surfing
- 8:33Speaker 4: looking at the container right now.
- 8:35Speaker 2: The sad part is I actually had the document, oue.
- 8:39Speaker 2: I had it linked in our show notes, and I
- 8:41Speaker 2: had it in the show notes with just highlighted for you.
- 8:44Speaker 2: I am literally it says English release October eighteenth and
- 8:49Speaker 2: then pre released event October eleven. I can't do more
- 8:51Speaker 2: than that.
- 8:52Speaker 3: Boy, I am staring at the article right now and
- 8:55Speaker 3: I have no oh no, look it says twenty fourth
- 8:57Speaker 3: right there on the doc.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Not use you change that, sor I'm going into history.
- 9:02Speaker 3: But key Forge ember Sky's English language will release on
- 9:05Speaker 3: October eighteenth, twenty twenty four. Those wanting to dive into
- 9:09Speaker 3: the next second do so a week earlier in the
- 9:12Speaker 3: pre really the much anticipated does it say? Oh no,
- 9:15Speaker 3: it doesn't say that pre release event at participating retailers
- 9:20Speaker 3: on October eleventh, twenty twenty four. Key Forge ember Sky's
- 9:24Speaker 3: release pack features three art conducts and a house Skyborn
- 9:29Speaker 3: pin get ready for the glorious sealed event. Somehow that
- 9:35Speaker 3: end sentence or that end phrase doesn't really work. So
- 9:39Speaker 3: if you didn't participate in the game Found, you can
- 9:43Speaker 3: get a pin. If you did participate in the game Found,
- 9:47Speaker 3: you'll be getting another pin. Congrats.
- 9:49Speaker 2: So the little box looks cool. I'm excited to be
- 9:51Speaker 2: able to play prelease and again sealed because we actually
- 9:55Speaker 2: have been playing ember Skis the last two weeks at
- 9:57Speaker 2: our locals. Yeah, first because.
- 9:59Speaker 3: I'm a because well, I'm gonna we.
- 10:03Speaker 2: We tried to give you DECKX.
- 10:05Speaker 3: You still nobody last week, but I.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Oh, I know one one sc had decks for you.
- 10:11Speaker 3: She probably did, but I said, fuck that shit, I'm out.
- 10:15Speaker 3: I tried it, I didn't like it. I had my
- 10:17Speaker 3: no thank you helping. I'm moving on. I'm actually I'm
- 10:19Speaker 3: moving back to grim reminders.
- 10:22Speaker 2: Yeah, and you did, but I think it was fun.
- 10:26Speaker 2: It was fun.
- 10:28Speaker 4: I'm gonna have lots of fun. Can we just talk
- 10:29Speaker 4: about that a little bit lately?
- 10:31Speaker 3: So you know, obviously, if you guys aren't watching us
- 10:34Speaker 3: on Tuesdays, I've been streaming in the past two tuesdays.
- 10:37Speaker 3: We're getting ready for u KFCs. So I've got some
- 10:41Speaker 3: stuff that I'm trying, Like we tried some equipment out
- 10:43Speaker 3: team obviously make sure it's gonna work for exactly what
- 10:47Speaker 3: I wanted to do, and we found out that yes,
- 10:50Speaker 3: this absolutely does pretty much exactly what I wanted to do.
- 10:54Speaker 3: So I'm I'm like super stoked about KFC this year.
- 10:57Speaker 3: It's gonna be a lot of fun. We're gonna drop
- 10:59Speaker 3: a lot of content and it's gonna be again a
- 11:01Speaker 3: lot of fun. So go subscribe to the YouTube channel.
- 11:05Speaker 3: Definitely not pulling a help from future self, but go
- 11:07Speaker 3: subscribe to the Arcons Corner YouTube channel because that's gonna
- 11:10Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be fun. Like we're gonna have a
- 11:12Speaker 3: ton of fun there. And and yeah, I mean I've
- 11:15Speaker 3: been streaming our Tuesday night night games and I think
- 11:18Speaker 3: maybe I just continue doing that with how little I
- 11:22Speaker 3: have to actually bring with me to do it, like,
- 11:27Speaker 3: it's actually quite possible. But if you want to go
- 11:30Speaker 3: back and watch, you will watch. You will watch the disparaging.
- 11:39Speaker 3: Now these were two somebody gave me crap on the
- 11:41Speaker 3: YouTube channel because they said that I had I had
- 11:45Speaker 3: like brought a deck like way to bring a stacked
- 11:49Speaker 3: gr deck versus sealed embers Skies, and I say, nay, nay,
- 11:55Speaker 3: that was a sealed g R deck. I literally pulled
- 11:58Speaker 3: from the shelf. I got something, you get something hot. No,
- 12:02Speaker 3: it's not even that hot like. It's very like for
- 12:05Speaker 3: Grim Reminders. It's very vanilla like. It can do some things.
- 12:12Speaker 3: It's fine, right, It ain't went in a Vault tour
- 12:15Speaker 3: or even an ARCon tournament of any sort anytime sued.
- 12:20Speaker 3: But it laid the wood to ember Sky's.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Well, it laid the wood to well, you did lose to.
- 12:27Speaker 3: Steal, you did lose to Sydney. That was probably I
- 12:32Speaker 3: probably should have shuffled more, but it is that's neither.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Well.
- 12:38Speaker 3: I mean I gave it a few riffle shuffles and
- 12:40Speaker 3: kind of said, yeah, whatever, here we go, and it
- 12:42Speaker 3: just kind of it came out all wrong. But then
- 12:45Speaker 3: I played against Pete. Pete forged a key against my
- 12:51Speaker 3: GR deck, which does not have a ton of ember
- 12:55Speaker 3: control in it. And then I played against Perfect. I
- 12:58Speaker 3: don't know if Perfect forged a key, he might have
- 13:01Speaker 3: he might have.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Perfect really felt sad. He usually doesn't end up in
- 13:05Speaker 2: the bottom, but he finished there. I'm a little sad
- 13:08Speaker 2: because of just how the rounds went. I finished three
- 13:13Speaker 2: to zero and you essentially finished the two ones. We
- 13:15Speaker 2: never got to face off, and I would have liked
- 13:16Speaker 2: to see. I think that my amber Sky's deck was
- 13:19Speaker 2: better suited to actually give you a fight versus the
- 13:21Speaker 2: other two. But that that is maybe for next well
- 13:25Speaker 2: not next week because you're doing some work, but in
- 13:27Speaker 2: a couple of weeks.
- 13:28Speaker 3: I'm going to be there next week to the next week.
- 13:31Speaker 3: I have changed my position on that because of where
- 13:34Speaker 3: I need to be, So you know, I'll probably we're
- 13:36Speaker 3: gonna play it by ear for now, but for now
- 13:38Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yes, I will be there next week,
- 13:40Speaker 3: let's do it, and we'll we'll we'll do more of
- 13:44Speaker 3: the such. So again, go go subscribe over there. It'll
- 13:48Speaker 3: it will notify you when we go live. Because I've
- 13:52Speaker 3: actually been fun just have doing a little streaming lately.
- 13:55Speaker 3: It's not something I've really been doing, not something we've
- 13:58Speaker 3: done a ton of. And this is nice, a live
- 14:00Speaker 3: in game card play. No TCO shenanigans, it's it's it's
- 14:05Speaker 3: just live play.
- 14:06Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that the setup is really like
- 14:10Speaker 2: it's it works, it's efficient, it's smaller in design, but
- 14:14Speaker 2: we can clearly see the cards. And the new upgrade
- 14:17Speaker 2: from two weeks ago to last week.
- 14:19Speaker 3: Was micony, but it was just one. But I did
- 14:26Speaker 3: go out and buy some like Lavalier mics so you
- 14:28Speaker 3: can hear the two players talking table talk pretty clearly.
- 14:33Speaker 3: This week I got in my iPad mounts, so I
- 14:36Speaker 3: might need even less next week. I'm not sure. We'll
- 14:39Speaker 3: we'll find out. We'll see how that goes, because it's
- 14:41Speaker 3: it's amazing how good the camera is on an iPad.
- 14:45Speaker 3: It's absolutely astonishing how good that camera.
- 14:48Speaker 2: Is, so that that's what basically talking about. Anyone wants
- 14:52Speaker 2: to get into it. Kind of keep in mind, just
- 14:55Speaker 2: a simple iPad and some levelier mics and honestly, very
- 14:58Speaker 2: very clear picture. We can go ahead and have the
- 15:00Speaker 2: setup to see the board. I thought it was very
- 15:04Speaker 2: very snazzy, well done, so come check it out and
- 15:06Speaker 2: I give us some feedback, but it's clear to here.
- 15:08Speaker 2: I know two weeks ago it was just fun to
- 15:10Speaker 2: hop on the mics when we had we had an
- 15:12Speaker 2: autumn ount that week, so I hopped on and I
- 15:14Speaker 2: know other people did as well, and we were just
- 15:15Speaker 2: kind of chatting it up, having some fun on the mic.
- 15:18Speaker 2: So it's it's always a good time hanging out with
- 15:21Speaker 2: Ac and frankly our locals, just talking KeyForge, playing key Porch.
- 15:25Speaker 3: But Dasco, you got some news from your locals too, right,
- 15:29Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so tonight we had two new folks show up,
- 15:33Speaker 3: which was pretty awesome. Yeah.
- 15:37Speaker 4: Yeah. So in fact, actually I didn't even mention this part.
- 15:41Speaker 4: We almost had three new folks. So I show up
- 15:44Speaker 4: at the store.
- 15:45Speaker 3: Oh sorry, when you said you're like, we almost had three,
- 15:49Speaker 3: I'm like three people total, three new people.
- 15:51Speaker 4: So when I show up at the store, the owner
- 15:55Speaker 4: of the store was like, oh, there was just a
- 15:57Speaker 4: guy in here buying key Forge, and he said, like
- 16:00Speaker 4: he used to play, and he doesn't know much about
- 16:02Speaker 4: the new sets, and he was asking me all these questions.
- 16:05Speaker 4: And I was like, if you wait twenty minutes, there
- 16:08Speaker 4: will be folks that will answer all of your questions.
- 16:11Speaker 4: But apparently did wait. He like just bought some decks
- 16:14Speaker 4: right off. I was like, well, at least he bought
- 16:15Speaker 4: some decks, Like maybe he'll maybe he'll be back maybe
- 16:18Speaker 4: next maybe next week. He's like, oh, twenty minutes, Oh
- 16:20Speaker 4: that's five thirty I can I can swing there. Yeah,
- 16:22Speaker 4: maybe something like that.
- 16:24Speaker 3: So uh, but we did have two new.
- 16:25Speaker 4: Folks, so uh, one of those folks came in because
- 16:31Speaker 4: of uh Stragan. So I don't know if you guys
- 16:35Speaker 4: remember all the way back to the CTB Dinner episode
- 16:38Speaker 4: when we had two of my locals on from my
- 16:42Speaker 4: local team team redacted, so Stragan and Mannon was the
- 16:46Speaker 4: other guy who was on. But so Stragan was this time.
- 16:51Speaker 4: He he got the big one, like the big pledge,
- 16:55Speaker 4: the one one one, and so he got like a
- 16:59Speaker 4: million decks, right because to that, you know, two thousand dollars,
- 17:03Speaker 4: you get all these decks, you get your picture and
- 17:04Speaker 4: so on and so forth. So so he's like, okay,
- 17:08Speaker 4: I got to recoups of this money.
- 17:10Speaker 3: So he's putting stuff up on eBay.
- 17:12Speaker 4: So somebody bought like a display of ember skies from
- 17:16Speaker 4: him off eBay, so you get your ship the shipping address,
- 17:19Speaker 4: and so he sees the dress is like not like
- 17:23Speaker 4: super close but also not crazy far away. So he
- 17:26Speaker 4: just starts messaging the guy on eBay, like, hey, you
- 17:28Speaker 4: should come play with us. So the guy actually shows up,
- 17:33Speaker 4: which was really cool, and uh, he was like, yeah,
- 17:36Speaker 4: I thought it was a little weird at first. This
- 17:38Speaker 4: guy just kept harassing me to come play with him.
- 17:42Speaker 4: But he's like, ah, I seemed nice, so what the hell,
- 17:44Speaker 4: I'll try it, play don't die. So so, yeah, you
- 17:50Speaker 4: came out and played, which was cool. And then there's
- 17:54Speaker 4: another guy who is pretty local who decided to come
- 17:58Speaker 4: and check out the uh to see what was up
- 18:02Speaker 4: now that you know, we're in all the game stories
- 18:04Speaker 4: emails for for our events and stuff. So he came
- 18:06Speaker 4: and played, and you know, I had a good time.
- 18:10Speaker 4: So it was really cool to have U to have
- 18:13Speaker 4: these new folks come and hopefully, uh, hopefully we'll be back.
- 18:16Speaker 2: Right.
- 18:16Speaker 4: The one guy's a little far, so I'm sure we
- 18:18Speaker 4: won't see it too much, but he said he'd try
- 18:20Speaker 4: to come for the pre release.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Uh.
- 18:22Speaker 4: The other guy that's pretty local, hopefully, you know, he
- 18:25Speaker 4: said he'd come again. I don't know, we'll see hopefully
- 18:27Speaker 4: comes again.
- 18:27Speaker 2: So and as we were coming into our show for tonight,
- 18:31Speaker 2: you were talking about uh some feedback that was provided
- 18:35Speaker 2: to you.
- 18:37Speaker 3: The oh so yeah.
- 18:38Speaker 4: So so I was talking with him about his key
- 18:42Speaker 4: Forward experience. Oh hey, how long you've been playing so
- 18:44Speaker 4: on and so forth? Right like so he's like, oh yeah,
- 18:47Speaker 4: Like he's like, I played I think he said World's
- 18:53Speaker 4: Collide and then he got some like back decks and stuff,
- 18:56Speaker 4: and then the Pandemic hit right, so he right wasn't
- 19:02Speaker 4: And then it sounded like he's he's not a big
- 19:05Speaker 4: like TCO guy. Where's the other guy said, He's been
- 19:08Speaker 4: playing on TCO, but this is for like he wanted
- 19:12Speaker 4: to start doing in person stuff. So AnyWho, so this
- 19:18Speaker 4: guy's like he, yeah, I played World's Glide and the
- 19:20Speaker 4: Pandemic whatever, and then.
- 19:22Speaker 3: When the game found came for.
- 19:25Speaker 4: WHOA, he was like all in and so he spent
- 19:29Speaker 4: way more money than he's like, oh maybe I should
- 19:31Speaker 4: have and you know, thinking like you know, saying to
- 19:35Speaker 4: himself like, oh, I'm going to save the game, which
- 19:38Speaker 4: I was like, hey, you know you did, because then
- 19:40Speaker 4: he was I think he was upset afterwards that then
- 19:44Speaker 4: he was one of these folks who was like when
- 19:45Speaker 4: the kick started or game found on Grim Reminders, he
- 19:50Speaker 4: was like, what the heck? And he's like I don't
- 19:53Speaker 4: have anything to do with it because he was like,
- 19:54Speaker 4: why are you still doing this?
- 19:56Speaker 3: So he was one of those so.
- 19:57Speaker 4: He basically did not play uh Grim Reminders. I did
- 20:03Speaker 4: remind him, was like, you did save the game even
- 20:06Speaker 4: if you know they decided to go this game found
- 20:08Speaker 4: route whatever, and I guess he he saw the game
- 20:13Speaker 4: found for Amber Skies, he was like, I'm not going
- 20:15Speaker 4: to do that, and then like you know, he saw
- 20:18Speaker 4: people getting decks and he started getting some like feeling like, oh,
- 20:21Speaker 4: that was really fun game, maybe I should try it,
- 20:24Speaker 4: And that's when he bought uh some member Skies from
- 20:27Speaker 4: Stragan and then Stragan started harassing him on eBay chat
- 20:32Speaker 4: until he would come and play with us.
- 20:34Speaker 2: So but what I think, what I think is important
- 20:39Speaker 2: about this is one consistency, So one to show up
- 20:43Speaker 2: each week at the same time. Yes, you can actually
- 20:45Speaker 2: point to someone and say, hey, come back at this time.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Maybe that person was busy, and so next week maybe
- 20:51Speaker 2: you have another local that is new who shows up.
- 20:55Speaker 2: So that is real powerful. If you guys can establish
- 20:57Speaker 2: locals and just be there, it's being there week in
- 21:00Speaker 2: week out, even if it ends up being zero, one, two,
- 21:03Speaker 2: those numbers will increase. And once you have that built bond,
- 21:07Speaker 2: it is amazing to see. I'm actually this past week
- 21:10Speaker 2: our two new locals both actually went ahead and are
- 21:14Speaker 2: looking at coming up to KFC. So the idea the
- 21:18Speaker 2: idea from jumping from hey we're we're local, we're new
- 21:21Speaker 2: into this game, but just the excitement and the hype
- 21:23Speaker 2: that's coming in from different social events happening at KFC
- 21:28Speaker 2: to the actual open and then multiple sealed events and
- 21:32Speaker 2: then worlds, it's really really enticing. So if you have
- 21:35Speaker 2: not signed up, I highly encourage everyone to go ahead
- 21:38Speaker 2: and check it out, and then the other and then
- 21:42Speaker 2: the other. The other component for us is just you know,
- 21:46Speaker 2: the idea for game found was this pledge, and so
- 21:49Speaker 2: Gigi has to realize it still has an impact. It
- 21:53Speaker 2: left a sour taste in a number of people's mouths.
- 21:56Speaker 2: So if we can get out and say, hey, this
- 21:58Speaker 2: game is still great, come check it out. The community
- 22:01Speaker 2: is something that will go ahead and bring them back in.
- 22:03Speaker 2: But we have to be able to have a response
- 22:06Speaker 2: that yes, there are now some localized you know, the
- 22:10Speaker 2: stores that are supporting can go ahead and get this
- 22:12Speaker 2: special set triple M or you can go ahead and
- 22:16Speaker 2: you have these local events like the mars kits that
- 22:20Speaker 2: are coming out and the storyline event or your store championship,
- 22:24Speaker 2: and so those are reasons still to come out and
- 22:26Speaker 2: play in person versus TCO. We have a great event,
- 22:30Speaker 2: but that can help curb people who might have been
- 22:33Speaker 2: a bit turned off from this idea that yeah, we're
- 22:35Speaker 2: doing game Found again. Yeah, we're doing Game Found. I
- 22:37Speaker 2: think it's going to be their long term, but we
- 22:40Speaker 2: as the community can go ahead and help. So that's
- 22:42Speaker 2: my two cents there.
- 22:45Speaker 3: All right now.
- 22:45Speaker 4: One thing, So I was talking with the store owner
- 22:48Speaker 4: about the Game Found a bit because my guy he
- 22:51Speaker 4: backed pretty big in the Game Found, which is awesome,
- 22:54Speaker 4: super excited about it. One thing I didn't realize and
- 22:57Speaker 4: I don't know if this was his, if this is
- 23:01Speaker 4: correct or whatever.
- 23:02Speaker 2: But.
- 23:04Speaker 4: So he's got a shipping notice. He doesn't have stuff yet,
- 23:06Speaker 4: but he was like, oh, I still like it. Just
- 23:10Speaker 4: normal rules apply, like I can't sell the decks until
- 23:14Speaker 4: pre release for the pre release day and then general release.
- 23:19Speaker 3: A week later.
- 23:22Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, that's interesting, Like I had
- 23:25Speaker 4: thought that was for distribution channels as opposed to the
- 23:30Speaker 4: game Found. Oh look Josh is chatting right there. Incorrect,
- 23:35Speaker 4: he can sell immediately.
- 23:36Speaker 3: I am. I'm gonna chat my dude and tell him
- 23:40Speaker 3: that it's real stuff immediately. Yeah.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Yeah, so drezz. It's really confusing. But we had the
- 23:44Speaker 2: same issue at our local game store when GR came
- 23:48Speaker 2: out because our store had backed you got the GR
- 23:50Speaker 2: decks and they're like, when can we put this out?
- 23:52Speaker 2: And they assumed that it was actually about six weeks later,
- 23:55Speaker 2: five weeks later from when it was actually given to
- 23:58Speaker 2: the store, and we like we had contacted. We're like,
- 24:02Speaker 2: no as soon as you received it, because game found
- 24:06Speaker 2: is outside of the normal distribution. But that's a really
- 24:09Speaker 2: confusing part for store owners.
- 24:10Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm not it's not normal, right. It's
- 24:17Speaker 3: typically once typically you have all your product and then
- 24:21Speaker 3: you're like given a release date like I almost every
- 24:25Speaker 3: other game does it, where like you have like whatever
- 24:27Speaker 3: you ordered and then you have to wait a week
- 24:29Speaker 3: or two to actually be able to sell the product
- 24:32Speaker 3: because it's not you know, it's again. Key Forge is
- 24:35Speaker 3: very strange because, like we talk about like street dates
- 24:38Speaker 3: and tournament legality, like a lot of Set, a lot
- 24:41Speaker 3: of other card games like Sets come out and they're
- 24:44Speaker 3: not tournament legal for you know, a month or two.
- 24:48Speaker 3: You know, so like you can start theory crafting, but
- 24:50Speaker 3: they're not going to be legal in your local events
- 24:52Speaker 3: until such and such a time. Where key Forge is
- 24:55Speaker 3: as soon as it's released, it's legal.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Yep, that's why Sheep is playing Amber Skies this weekend.
- 25:00Speaker 3: No, he's.
- 25:03Speaker 2: No, but I will say I had actually reached out
- 25:05Speaker 2: to my own store as I coordinated kind of run
- 25:09Speaker 2: most of the GM and they are still really confused
- 25:12Speaker 2: as to what's happening with their game found order for
- 25:14Speaker 2: Amber Skies what they had only then ordered one box
- 25:20Speaker 2: outside of that, So there's just a whole lot of confusion.
- 25:23Speaker 2: So I understand from their side, they're not fully invested
- 25:27Speaker 2: in the game like we are, so as community, we
- 25:30Speaker 2: need to be able to help them out. Hopefully there
- 25:32Speaker 2: can be a little bit clear communication. I'm sure, just
- 25:35Speaker 2: like at school, I send out five one hundred emails,
- 25:40Speaker 2: messages and flyers, and yet I still have families that
- 25:43Speaker 2: miss it. But the end result is we have to
- 25:45Speaker 2: make it clear and we have to send out multiple times.
- 25:47Speaker 2: So between GG and US as community, hopefully you can
- 25:50Speaker 2: let them know multiple sets are coming out. Let's have
- 25:54Speaker 2: some fun with it.
- 25:55Speaker 3: So all right, let's get into dis or Dat's cards.
- 26:03Speaker 3: Are you ready?
- 26:04Speaker 2: You really messed it up?
- 26:06Speaker 3: Well, it's disass yes or dad Ass.
- 26:10Speaker 2: There we go.
- 26:12Speaker 3: Because there's a creature called dat in this in dis
- 26:17Speaker 3: So all right, we'll get to let's start.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you're we are going ahead and going
- 26:22Speaker 2: through cards that are new to what we see is
- 26:26Speaker 2: amber Sky's. So there's a number of reprint cards that
- 26:29Speaker 2: are there, but some live.
- 26:31Speaker 3: Recording this time. Was she recording last time? Or you recording?
- 26:34Speaker 3: Walk was recording last time? So we're not just talking again.
- 26:38Speaker 4: I don't want to have to listen to this again
- 26:41Speaker 4: to figure out what we said. That would be awful.
- 26:47Speaker 3: I just have to listen to this again. Ah, he
- 26:51Speaker 3: loves every minute, all right, don't. It's an action card
- 26:55Speaker 3: from dis pip a Vember every time. Oh, it's a
- 26:58Speaker 3: rare member. Every time you play play destroy an enemy creature.
- 27:03Speaker 3: If your opponent controls more creatures than you, repeat this effect.
- 27:09Speaker 3: I always forget the rule because of the when okay,
- 27:13Speaker 3: because of where the commas and the periods are on,
- 27:20Speaker 3: not TMTP bait and switch. Do I repeat this again
- 27:24Speaker 3: if they still continue to have more creatures than me?
- 27:28Speaker 2: If you're yeah, if your oponent controls more creatures than you,
- 27:31Speaker 2: comma repeat this effect. You are going there's a period
- 27:36Speaker 2: at the end. There's a comma after you If there
- 27:38Speaker 2: are more creatures than you. Comma repeat this, okay, and
- 27:42Speaker 2: that matters. So as you guys have seen, we actually
- 27:46Speaker 2: have a creature that does the same thing. If you
- 27:48Speaker 2: do not remember from Sanctum, Yeah.
- 27:52Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the the woman with the hammer whose name
- 27:56Speaker 4: will come on?
- 27:57Speaker 3: Come on, I don't remember. I ain't gonna lie.
- 28:00Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like real cool. It's like you got the
- 28:03Speaker 4: flowing robes and all the stuff. Right, this is great?
- 28:07Speaker 3: All right either guys, we're working on Delta P. Victim,
- 28:12Speaker 3: what do we give Delta P? We'll start with the
- 28:14Speaker 3: draft score. What'd you give Delta P?
- 28:16Speaker 4: I think it's pretty great, right, A kill spell always
- 28:20Speaker 4: and then maybe more times and you can get an emperor. Yeah,
- 28:23Speaker 4: this is good. This is a five. This card is
- 28:25Speaker 4: real good. O.
- 28:27Speaker 3: You got really excited for that. I don't know if
- 28:29Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm good at five.
- 28:33Speaker 2: Four all right, So I popped in here. I saw
- 28:37Speaker 2: this as a four. I actually really like it. It is
- 28:40Speaker 2: consistent and repeatable, and you can control a board because
- 28:43Speaker 2: you should be able to fight off and be able
- 28:45Speaker 2: to do some damage. This is this This real good.
- 28:49Speaker 3: But guys are real high on these score numb quid
- 28:52Speaker 3: the fare you go, You go ahead, Wookie, and then
- 28:55Speaker 3: we'll talk about numb quid. I said three three, because
- 29:00Speaker 3: if you are taking full advantage of this card, you
- 29:03Speaker 3: are already significantly behind.
- 29:06Speaker 2: No numb kidding, Nah, no, no, Because okay, numb quid
- 29:10Speaker 2: is great because you're automatically going to get to destroy creature.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Even if you are completely blowing them.
- 29:15Speaker 3: Out, you are bare minimum getting a creature for you
- 29:18Speaker 3: are getting at least one destroyed targeted destruction for a number.
- 29:22Speaker 2: And then numb quid is really nice for a board
- 29:25Speaker 2: wipe or a board limitation.
- 29:28Speaker 3: People come to a well, think about this.
- 29:31Speaker 4: There are so many cards that we're going to get
- 29:33Speaker 4: to in diss where you want to kill your own dudes.
- 29:37Speaker 3: Right true, So like this says an enemy creature, you're
- 29:40Speaker 3: not destroying your creatures.
- 29:41Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you kill all your own dudes and
- 29:43Speaker 4: then kill all your enemies dudes and you get advantage
- 29:46Speaker 4: of their stuff, all dies like like magic Christmas lamb.
- 29:51Speaker 2: I don't know I hear magic Christmas lamb. But I
- 29:54Speaker 2: will say one of the negative components that I've seen
- 29:57Speaker 2: for Amber skies is the lack of c and specifically
- 30:01Speaker 2: board control you're going to see it coming from how
- 30:04Speaker 2: Skyborne and a bit from Disk. But the ability to
- 30:07Speaker 2: have a numb quid effect to kill multiple creatures at
- 30:10Speaker 2: the same time is very, very high. So I give
- 30:13Speaker 2: it a four at the very least.
- 30:15Speaker 3: I think it's five. I'm gonna to my guns on
- 30:18Speaker 3: a three and then we'll let a wookie. What would
- 30:21Speaker 3: what do you give numb quid? Numb quids are three.
- 30:26Speaker 3: That's why I give it. It's a six in the
- 30:28Speaker 3: Z score. Well Z you know he had this might
- 30:33Speaker 3: be better than numb quid, Yes, you have.
- 30:36Speaker 4: It's better numb quids a creature so it reduces the
- 30:39Speaker 4: number of enemy creatures you killed by one.
- 30:42Speaker 3: This as an ember pip yep.
- 30:44Speaker 4: I mean this might be a six. I don't know.
- 30:46Speaker 3: It's at least a five. Six. That's crazy. I'm sticking
- 30:50Speaker 3: with three. Will let uh, We'll let three is ridiculous.
- 30:53Speaker 2: I have gone up to a five for your draz
- 30:56Speaker 2: What do you.
- 30:56Speaker 3: Give implosion Wokie negative four?
- 31:00Speaker 2: What?
- 31:02Speaker 3: I don't know?
- 31:02Speaker 2: Demonic Shelf, let's do it, boy.
- 31:04Speaker 3: Demonic Shelf is an artifact with a pivot vember. Every
- 31:07Speaker 3: time you play it action pick a friendly creature item.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Put it is an item. Put a friendly creature face
- 31:14Speaker 3: up under demonic shelf. Deal three damage to a creature
- 31:18Speaker 3: for each card under Demonic Shelf.
- 31:25Speaker 4: I kind of like, just like the theming of this,
- 31:28Speaker 4: which has nothing to do with the actual strength of
- 31:30Speaker 4: the card. Like, I don't know, it's a weird like
- 31:37Speaker 4: trophies and stuff.
- 31:38Speaker 3: I don't know, But I'm kind of on the fence
- 31:41Speaker 3: on this card. Yeah, it feels slow. It's super duper slow. Right,
- 31:47Speaker 3: It's only it's one creature have to be in this,
- 31:51Speaker 3: so I need my deck to want to be in this.
- 31:53Speaker 3: If it's not, then it's kind of who knows.
- 31:57Speaker 4: Now Actually, now i'm reading it, put a friendly creature
- 32:00Speaker 4: that's from play, right, oh?
- 32:04Speaker 3: Or is it from your hand?
- 32:05Speaker 2: So when I first read this, I thought that it
- 32:08Speaker 2: was coming from my hand, which is hand management, which
- 32:12Speaker 2: increased its score. But as you're reading put a put
- 32:16Speaker 2: a friendly creature face up, and I think it's from
- 32:18Speaker 2: play which.
- 32:19Speaker 4: Is and it's not destroy Yeah, like yeah, all.
- 32:26Speaker 2: Right, m m.
- 32:29Speaker 3: Best at best it's a two. Like it at best
- 32:35Speaker 3: it gives you a number when you play it, but
- 32:37Speaker 3: like one time, yeah.
- 32:40Speaker 2: If it if it is from Creature and play it
- 32:42Speaker 2: is a one for me.
- 32:43Speaker 4: It's yeah, I'm going to downgrade this to a one.
- 32:46Speaker 4: I think you're right, it's like you're not destroying your
- 32:49Speaker 4: own Dude.
- 32:50Speaker 3: Again, I read that as from I I thought I
- 32:52Speaker 3: read it from hand. Yeah, but that is uh then,
- 32:56Speaker 3: because I'm thinking, Okay, well maybe I can get rid
- 32:59Speaker 3: of a house eventu. I mean, it's gonna take forever
- 33:01Speaker 3: for me to thin a house, you know, thin junkie
- 33:06Speaker 3: creatures from a house from my hand. But yeah, and.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Again these are both these are both rares. We did
- 33:11Speaker 2: have a situation come up in our locals tuesday. Make
- 33:15Speaker 2: sure you read your cards, boys and girls, as we
- 33:17Speaker 2: have multiple sets that have now released. Read the cards
- 33:20Speaker 2: because even the best of us will go ahead and misunderstanding.
- 33:23Speaker 3: And I think that was captured on stream too, where
- 33:25Speaker 3: it was like, oh, that's that's not what that says
- 33:28Speaker 3: at all. That's not that's significantly worse. Yeah.
- 33:31Speaker 2: So it was discard a card and then reap discarded card.
- 33:35Speaker 2: Your opponent then can't play cards of that type on
- 33:38Speaker 2: their turn. But the way that it was played from
- 33:41Speaker 2: our player was telling you that your opponent had to
- 33:45Speaker 2: discard a card and then they couldn't play cards of
- 33:48Speaker 2: that type, so it was like double punishing them, which
- 33:51Speaker 2: was was great. So that that happens as new sets
- 33:54Speaker 2: for our release. But you know, read your cards. Play
- 33:58Speaker 2: it on out some Fiendish Apprentice Fiendish Apprentice action like
- 34:05Speaker 2: this should be a creature just the name, I feel
- 34:08Speaker 2: like a creature, but it is an action.
- 34:10Speaker 3: It will enhance your deck with two pips from discs
- 34:15Speaker 3: play for each friendly diss creature, deal three damage to
- 34:18Speaker 3: an enemy creature, and.
- 34:21Speaker 2: It comes with to enhanced house icons.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Does yeah? I think I think that they enhance icons.
- 34:29Speaker 3: Can they only go on creatures or can they go
- 34:31Speaker 3: on actions too?
- 34:32Speaker 2: Know?
- 34:32Speaker 3: They can go on any car, any car like any
- 34:34Speaker 3: other pip right, Okay, yeah, I.
- 34:39Speaker 2: Mean what do you guys think about the icons being
- 34:42Speaker 2: that first and slightly smaller? Is that bothering anyone else?
- 34:46Speaker 4: Not?
- 34:46Speaker 3: Really?
- 34:46Speaker 2: Is it just MYOTD?
- 34:48Speaker 3: Wait? What, they are smaller and they will always be
- 34:52Speaker 3: first before anything else.
- 34:54Speaker 2: So if you actually were to be able to max out,
- 34:57Speaker 2: the house icon takes up one of the slots for
- 35:00Speaker 2: one of the enhancements. But they're slightly smaller, so it
- 35:03Speaker 2: bothers me. Anyway, back to this card, I know that
- 35:05Speaker 2: we talked last time. Each house has their rare, which
- 35:09Speaker 2: is a double enhanced house. I think that this is solid.
- 35:13Speaker 2: I like that it's going to go ahead, and yes,
- 35:17Speaker 2: I think one I'm bringing into house enhanced icons. I
- 35:21Speaker 2: love this. There are some some negative effects. If you
- 35:24Speaker 2: are destroying creatures of a house in this double house,
- 35:27Speaker 2: it could potentially wipe that out, so be aware. But
- 35:30Speaker 2: there is a lot of advantage to be gained from
- 35:33Speaker 2: creatures that can be played essentially off turn and outcomes
- 35:36Speaker 2: in to our.
- 35:37Speaker 3: Actions yeap artifacts or anything.
- 35:40Speaker 2: It's anything.
- 35:42Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't like it. I don't like the
- 35:46Speaker 3: fact that it says for each friendly disk creature, what
- 35:48Speaker 3: if I don't have any what if I don't have
- 35:51Speaker 3: any if I don't have any enhand, this is now
- 35:53Speaker 3: a dead card.
- 35:54Speaker 2: No, it's going ahead, and it still gives you the enhancements.
- 35:58Speaker 3: It's giving you the enanhancements. That's that's fine. That's why
- 36:01Speaker 3: I went That's why I went up to a two.
- 36:03Speaker 2: Okay, what but it's doing it to an enemy creature.
- 36:06Speaker 2: It's what it's not forced on just uh all creatures,
- 36:11Speaker 2: which I think is really important. So because it says
- 36:13Speaker 2: enemy the worst that's going to happen is I gained
- 36:15Speaker 2: two house enhancements.
- 36:17Speaker 3: Which is amazing.
- 36:18Speaker 2: Correct, And so I know we had a little bit
- 36:21Speaker 2: of an argument last week with Probner on the house enhancements,
- 36:24Speaker 2: but frankly I didn't want to see brobnar house enhancements.
- 36:28Speaker 3: I like, I don't want to.
- 36:30Speaker 2: Well, and that's that's that's the reason why. But I'm
- 36:33Speaker 2: actually a lot higher on dis and so I actually
- 36:36Speaker 2: rated this pretty decent. I had it at a four.
- 36:39Speaker 4: I think it's at least a four. Like I'm over
- 36:42Speaker 4: here debating a five maybe, like why would it be
- 36:45Speaker 4: aw well because two extra cards in this okay, fine,
- 36:51Speaker 4: and then quite a bit of damage potentially.
- 36:55Speaker 3: Well again, potentially this is a potential it could potentially
- 36:59Speaker 3: also do zero.
- 37:02Speaker 2: I think for that reason that's why I list limited
- 37:05Speaker 2: it to a four, because coming in, if I don't
- 37:08Speaker 2: have creatures either in hand or out on the board,
- 37:11Speaker 2: it is not going to do damage. But I think
- 37:15Speaker 2: that I think situational it can improve. But I have
- 37:18Speaker 2: it at a four.
- 37:19Speaker 3: This is at least a four. At least I'm sticking
- 37:23Speaker 3: to my guns, like I want three of these.
- 37:26Speaker 4: That would be amazing. Yeah, this is well, so few
- 37:31Speaker 4: cards and set right the uh this is also scaling.
- 37:36Speaker 3: Up right, Well, I guess okay, three of these you
- 37:40Speaker 3: are getting six. Yeah, you are getting six enhancements. But
- 37:45Speaker 3: that's like half another. I can't because it just it
- 37:49Speaker 3: does have it has the potential to do absolutely nothing.
- 37:53Speaker 2: I got it as a four.
- 37:55Speaker 3: It doesn't even it doesn't even have a pip on it.
- 37:58Speaker 4: All right, I'll say four with you guys on, I'll
- 38:01Speaker 4: say four. There's no way it's less than four.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going less than four.
- 38:05Speaker 3: All right, get left to get sheeps. Scoring were going
- 38:10Speaker 3: to infernal tearan mm hmmm, I like.
- 38:16Speaker 2: Okay, let's let read it.
- 38:17Speaker 3: Read it two power Human play slash after reap discarded cards,
- 38:22Speaker 3: steal one number, scrap discard your hand. Steal Ember equal
- 38:28Speaker 3: to the number of Ember bonus icons on the cards
- 38:31Speaker 3: discarded this way. Mm hmmm. I like this. I like this.
- 38:36Speaker 3: Mm hmm. This to me is is a three or four.
- 38:43Speaker 2: I love how I like this card a lot. It's
- 38:45Speaker 2: a three or four.
- 38:46Speaker 3: Well, I mean six. That's when when we talk about
- 38:49Speaker 3: fives and sixes, I view vibes and sixes as game warping.
- 38:53Speaker 3: Cards like these are cards that will potentially win you
- 38:57Speaker 3: the game.
- 39:00Speaker 4: It's steal.
- 39:02Speaker 3: It is steel and cycle. I agree with that, but
- 39:06Speaker 3: I don't does this win you it? It has the potential.
- 39:10Speaker 3: But again, how many pips are in set? Do we know?
- 39:15Speaker 4: No, I've not run the I don't know, but there's
- 39:16Speaker 4: there's plenty, especially if equoedon right.
- 39:19Speaker 2: The means nothing well.
- 39:25Speaker 3: Enhancements, as does taped, just.
- 39:29Speaker 2: Like Unfathomable in gr had a lot of pip enhancements
- 39:32Speaker 2: where just had pips. That's what you're seeing here.
- 39:34Speaker 3: I like Infernal Taran. I just don't know. I don't
- 39:37Speaker 3: know if it wins you the game. I know it
- 39:41Speaker 3: makes I know it makes real angry.
- 39:44Speaker 2: I think that it's consistent because one, you're getting the
- 39:47Speaker 2: play effect, which is great if it sticks around at all,
- 39:52Speaker 2: that's Christmas Land and I'm super happy. But on play
- 39:56Speaker 2: I can discard a card and steal one. Yes, please
- 39:59Speaker 2: like that right? There is phenomenal.
- 40:02Speaker 3: If you like the fact that the scrapability and the
- 40:05Speaker 3: play slash after reapability both are good.
- 40:10Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean that scrap is phenomenal. I can
- 40:13Speaker 2: choose the diament early on and just steal a whole
- 40:15Speaker 2: lot I can also go ahead and play out what
- 40:18Speaker 2: I want to if they're key cards, and then scrap.
- 40:22Speaker 2: And I'm not even scrapping just to steal, because on
- 40:25Speaker 2: average you're not going to have you know, every amber
- 40:27Speaker 2: pip on there. But pitcher, I can go ahead and
- 40:30Speaker 2: get rid of some dead cards too with that scrap effect,
- 40:33Speaker 2: and I'm moving cards, and that is extremely important in
- 40:37Speaker 2: this game. You don't want to be stuck with dead
- 40:38Speaker 2: cards infrontal tearing is real nice for that.
- 40:41Speaker 3: Think about the bloody efficiency. I'll come up to a four.
- 40:45Speaker 3: I'm not going to a forever six, but I will
- 40:47Speaker 3: say worst hand and key ford is what two?
- 40:53Speaker 4: So think about this. You got two to two, so
- 40:56Speaker 4: you got let's just say some other disc creature, so
- 40:59Speaker 4: you play it right, and then you got two of
- 41:02Speaker 4: one house, two of another house. Let's say one creature,
- 41:04Speaker 4: one actions maybe average, so maybe you got two evers.
- 41:07Speaker 4: So you're you're in two two two, and your turn
- 41:10Speaker 4: is play a disc card, scrap infernal tearin to chuck
- 41:16Speaker 4: your whole hand and steal two and draw six new cards.
- 41:19Speaker 4: Like that is a great turn, Like two to two
- 41:23Speaker 4: went from crap to great.
- 41:26Speaker 3: Possibly there, sure we don't.
- 41:29Speaker 4: Don't you have a good hand and you have other options, right.
- 41:33Speaker 3: So like, like you're happy on it, I'll go with
- 41:36Speaker 3: a four. I'm gonna go with a four. I can't.
- 41:38Speaker 3: I just I don't know if it's game warping yet,
- 41:40Speaker 3: what do you got to especially being a rare, I'm
- 41:43Speaker 3: probably only seeing one.
- 41:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I had it at a four here I could
- 41:48Speaker 2: be tuned to go a little bit higher. But I
- 41:50Speaker 2: think the rare, I mean, we are seeing a higher
- 41:52Speaker 2: amount because there's only twenty three new cards coming from DISS,
- 41:57Speaker 2: so a lot of these rares are showing up more
- 41:59Speaker 2: frequently than where you two in the past. But I
- 42:01Speaker 2: would not be sad seeing two of these or even more.
- 42:05Speaker 2: It's unlikely, but I think I think it's in the
- 42:09Speaker 2: four five.
- 42:10Speaker 3: A gale as it goes up? Does it? Does it
- 42:13Speaker 3: go four or five?
- 42:14Speaker 4: If you've got like if you've got seven hand at three?
- 42:19Speaker 3: Does it? Is there a possibility that I'm oh, shoot.
- 42:23Speaker 2: I don't think that question, judge. Yeah.
- 42:29Speaker 3: So let's say I scraped my infernal tarran. M y okay,
- 42:33Speaker 3: what happens if I'm also discarding an infernal terran? Do
- 42:38Speaker 3: I get all of it? Do I get it twice.
- 42:41Speaker 3: Oh because if you all right, so you're multiple in
- 42:43Speaker 3: your hand, all right, So so scrap occur.
- 42:46Speaker 4: Scrap happens when it hits like wallet's in the discard pilot.
- 42:50Speaker 4: Scrap happens as soon as I have discarded it. And
- 42:52Speaker 4: there were both icons on the cards discarded this way.
- 42:57Speaker 3: So when is my is my? When is my steel
- 43:00Speaker 3: milk counter? Start and stop?
- 43:02Speaker 4: So I think I don't think you double up because
- 43:05Speaker 4: it's because it explicitly says this way. So the first
- 43:10Speaker 4: infernal terran your disco would be this way, the next
- 43:15Speaker 4: one it's already in this card. You scrap your hand.
- 43:17Speaker 4: You don't have a hand, So I don't think. I
- 43:20Speaker 4: don't think it double up. It'd be cooler if it did.
- 43:22Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my read. That's probably that's my read as well.
- 43:26Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, that's going to come up
- 43:28Speaker 3: somewhere along the way, And is this an art card
- 43:31Speaker 3: for somebody?
- 43:34Speaker 4: If it is, I don't know what it is. The
- 43:36Speaker 4: faces covered right, That was my question. I was like this,
- 43:39Speaker 4: maybe maybe it's like.
- 43:42Speaker 2: Wayne, Yes, I actually think, I actually think the next
- 43:46Speaker 2: card is an art card. So let's move on to
- 43:48Speaker 2: the draft.
- 43:48Speaker 4: I did five. I don't know if that's too too hot,
- 43:53Speaker 4: but but I did five for Infernal Tears hot.
- 43:55Speaker 3: I think it's a little hot, but you know, let's
- 43:58Speaker 3: go to a fan.
- 44:00Speaker 2: I listen. I'm listening that as a four, and then
- 44:03Speaker 2: Sheep has to be able to argue with that? Or
- 44:05Speaker 2: should I put dress course score here? DRez, you seem
- 44:11Speaker 2: to be higher, what can you seem to be lower? No?
- 44:13Speaker 3: I went with a four. Okay, I came up to
- 44:16Speaker 3: a four. I agree that you can tell us what
- 44:18Speaker 3: the ability to I do really like the ability to
- 44:23Speaker 3: like dump my hand and just go get a new one.
- 44:27Speaker 3: And it's always a good feeling in q forge And
- 44:29Speaker 3: you're like, and I dress six, like you could have
- 44:32Speaker 3: had like the most abysmal turn ever. But you're like, ah,
- 44:35Speaker 3: but I'm drawn six. So it's a feels good. Maybe
- 44:38Speaker 3: not a good good, but it feels good. Phantasma quid.
- 44:43Speaker 2: Total art card right here of who.
- 44:48Speaker 3: Doctor Sheep, Doctor Sheep? Okay, fair enough? Six power beast creature.
- 44:52Speaker 3: Your opponent cannot play creatures on their right flank at
- 44:56Speaker 3: the end of your turn. If there are no enemy
- 44:58Speaker 3: creatures in play, destroy Fantasmic quid.
- 45:03Speaker 2: So it gets around the issue that if you play
- 45:05Speaker 2: it first, it's going away, but if there is a
- 45:09Speaker 2: creature at all, you're just consistently placing it.
- 45:11Speaker 3: On the one side, Brio says that you destroy the
- 45:17Speaker 3: leftmost flank. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken.
- 45:25Speaker 2: So you're not going ahead, I be forced.
- 45:28Speaker 3: So this actually does help with No, it doesn't help
- 45:32Speaker 3: with Brio because this makes because it's not forcing it
- 45:35Speaker 3: to go the other way. Yeah, it does.
- 45:38Speaker 4: I mean I was ready to go seven, but now
- 45:41Speaker 4: it's now it's crap browse ark six power Aukland.
- 45:46Speaker 2: When your opponent plays an action card instead of resolving
- 45:48Speaker 2: splay effect, destroy the creature on your left flank.
- 45:51Speaker 3: Okay, so why would they put this?
- 45:54Speaker 4: So this helps Brio but I guess way, but it
- 45:57Speaker 4: can kill cars better if you say left flank, Like,
- 46:00Speaker 4: I don't understand why would.
- 46:02Speaker 3: They do this?
- 46:04Speaker 2: I mean six powers six power does kill Brio, but
- 46:08Speaker 2: but it also dies when there's no enemy creature.
- 46:11Speaker 3: I don't know it's dying if it's fighting Brio.
- 46:14Speaker 2: I mean I had this as a two simply for
- 46:17Speaker 2: the six power. I could be talked down to a
- 46:19Speaker 2: one because.
- 46:20Speaker 3: And it is a two for the six power.
- 46:21Speaker 4: I mean, it can't be a one with six power.
- 46:23Speaker 4: It's gonna be a which is why I had it
- 46:25Speaker 4: at a two. Yeah, in fact, often it should be there. Maybe,
- 46:30Speaker 4: but like it dies. If you you can't play this
- 46:33Speaker 4: turn one as a threat right now you cannot.
- 46:36Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a two, it's a two. I agree to
- 46:40Speaker 3: move it to glad. We all agree Talent of Invidious
- 46:43Speaker 3: nine power ship play exalt Talent of Invidious three times.
- 46:49Speaker 3: When it is destroyed. Mooch, move each ember from Talent
- 46:54Speaker 3: of Invidious to an enemy creature.
- 46:56Speaker 2: That's what's going to be happening, is everyone's mooching off
- 46:59Speaker 2: of this. Yep, because this is a poor card. We're
- 47:03Speaker 2: still in the rare section. But oh why is this
- 47:06Speaker 2: the card? Uh? I am giving you Amber straight up.
- 47:12Speaker 3: I will not destroy I destroyed its triggers, and I
- 47:16Speaker 3: will move all said Amber onto a creature, onto an
- 47:19Speaker 3: enemy creature. This is a piggy bank. It's a sik
- 47:24Speaker 3: but it's a piggy bank. This is way better than
- 47:27Speaker 3: the version. Oh yeah, but it's better than most. Most
- 47:32Speaker 3: ships are basically auto discard, right, this is not auto
- 47:37Speaker 3: discard you. Now, if your opponent has bounce, well maybe
- 47:45Speaker 3: it depends on where you are in your deck. I mean,
- 47:48Speaker 3: I think this this one is significantly better than the
- 47:50Speaker 3: Brobnar one and thinking three Mber.
- 47:54Speaker 2: If there is bounce in the deck, especially if there's
- 47:57Speaker 2: anything me.
- 47:57Speaker 3: Bounce on set, I'd have to go that's something to know.
- 48:05Speaker 2: But I'm telling you that with the amount of destruction
- 48:09Speaker 2: that's in disc, it is better for that because of
- 48:11Speaker 2: it's destroyed effect. But if there's yeah, if there's any
- 48:15Speaker 2: ways to be able to basically block off your card text,
- 48:19Speaker 2: if there's any ways to be able to bounce, if
- 48:22Speaker 2: there's any ways to return it, you have some real
- 48:25Speaker 2: issues here because you're.
- 48:26Speaker 3: There are ways in set I make text blanks.
- 48:29Speaker 2: So that's why I said what I did.
- 48:32Speaker 4: So, yeah, really, double doom and Snudge are the threats
- 48:37Speaker 4: in set.
- 48:39Speaker 3: Where'd you guys play a very click word search. I
- 48:44Speaker 3: have this at a two.
- 48:46Speaker 2: I too.
- 48:48Speaker 4: You're gonna it's not an autodisc card, though in some
- 48:51Speaker 4: situations it is. There are gonna be moments where you're
- 48:56Speaker 4: this is actually gonna be strong right in the right
- 48:58Speaker 4: deck where you can play it, capture amber and then
- 49:01Speaker 4: destroy it all in one turn. Because there's a lot
- 49:04Speaker 4: of destroy your own stuff like there are moments, there
- 49:07Speaker 4: are certain decks where this is going to be quite strong.
- 49:11Speaker 2: But I think that decks that have a chance to
- 49:14Speaker 2: be able to capture a large amount of amber, that
- 49:17Speaker 2: this can stick around. And then as long as you're
- 49:19Speaker 2: not dealing with Bounce, you're in a good spot to
- 49:22Speaker 2: move that amber over. But without that support, I just
- 49:28Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a two and that
- 49:30Speaker 2: that gets it based on its nine power.
- 49:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in between a two and a three. I
- 49:38Speaker 3: struggled with it because I think if you're not going
- 49:40Speaker 3: against bounce or anything that can block its text text box,
- 49:46Speaker 3: it's just it's three umber that you're gonna get eventually.
- 49:51Speaker 3: And obviously if you're playing it, you're more than likely
- 49:53Speaker 3: going to try to kill it on the turn.
- 49:57Speaker 2: So look at the speed though I'm playing, I then
- 50:01Speaker 2: have to come back to dis.
- 50:03Speaker 3: We necessarily not necessarily plenty of self sacrifice, plenty of
- 50:07Speaker 3: self killing.
- 50:10Speaker 2: In this, but outside of the house again, there's not
- 50:12Speaker 2: a lot to see guys, and so I just yes,
- 50:17Speaker 2: you can make sure killing, but but the chance for
- 50:22Speaker 2: you like this, this I think is too slow that
- 50:25Speaker 2: I have it at a too still.
- 50:29Speaker 3: I can be talked to A two.
- 50:31Speaker 2: Yeah, caught her eyes. Vitality disaction play destroy creature artifact.
- 50:38Speaker 2: If you do, your opponent loses amber equal to the
- 50:41Speaker 2: number of bonus icons on the destroyed car. The searing
- 50:47Speaker 2: pain is only the beginning of this experience, all.
- 50:51Speaker 4: Right, So let's go through the Let's go to the stats.
- 50:53Speaker 4: What are the letters in?
- 50:57Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry what the letter? Right?
- 51:00Speaker 2: Camber control A it's got Does it have A yes? Yes,
- 51:06Speaker 2: artifact control R R.
- 51:08Speaker 4: Does it have R?
- 51:09Speaker 2: Yes?
- 51:10Speaker 4: What's another one?
- 51:11Speaker 2: Uh? E expected embert? No?
- 51:13Speaker 3: No, okay, what else we got?
- 51:15Speaker 2: Creature control?
- 51:17Speaker 4: Yep, it's got that.
- 51:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it has the AR.
- 51:20Speaker 4: And so basically this card says, deal with whatever the
- 51:28Speaker 4: biggest problem is right now, Like this is really good, right,
- 51:34Speaker 4: this can destroy anything?
- 51:36Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It doesn't have to be yours. It
- 51:39Speaker 3: doesn't have to be it can be theirs.
- 51:42Speaker 2: It can be yours, it can be theirs. And it
- 51:44Speaker 2: is it uncommon boys, So you are actually seeing that
- 51:47Speaker 2: this is no longer at that rare slot.
- 51:49Speaker 3: So I gave this a five. I gave it a six.
- 51:55Speaker 4: This is like.
- 51:58Speaker 3: Just just like whatever your problem is, it goes away.
- 52:01Speaker 2: Possibly, all right, I gave it a four, and I
- 52:07Speaker 2: gave it a four. But here's when I'm looking at this, Yes,
- 52:10Speaker 2: I love the flexibility destroy creature artifact. I'm really saving
- 52:14Speaker 2: the five or six pretty high. I could be talked
- 52:16Speaker 2: into the five, but I do think that most of
- 52:21Speaker 2: the time, if you do, your opponent loses amber equal
- 52:24Speaker 2: to the number of bonus icons on the destroyed card.
- 52:27Speaker 2: If you're destroying a creature, most of the time it
- 52:29Speaker 2: doesn't have amber on it if you're going ahead. And
- 52:32Speaker 2: so when you're talking about all those stats, yes, it
- 52:35Speaker 2: has creature control, Yes, it has flexibility to be.
- 52:40Speaker 3: It has the possibility to be A definitely is artifact control,
- 52:44Speaker 3: and it definitely is creature control.
- 52:46Speaker 2: How but how but the amber control is very subjective
- 52:50Speaker 2: A fifty.
- 52:51Speaker 4: But like it's deal with your problem. So like, just
- 52:53Speaker 4: pick a card that's got a lot of pips on
- 52:57Speaker 4: it of any type.
- 52:58Speaker 3: But then you do a bunch of might not be
- 53:00Speaker 3: the creature you need to kill.
- 53:02Speaker 4: That's fine, you just like, what's your problem, what's your
- 53:05Speaker 4: highest priority right now?
- 53:06Speaker 3: Deal with it?
- 53:07Speaker 4: Right, kill your own dude with three damage pips that
- 53:10Speaker 4: you're like, this is a piece of junk, right, And
- 53:12Speaker 4: suddenly you've got your opponent loses three mber right, like
- 53:15Speaker 4: like this is this is super flexible. This is like
- 53:23Speaker 4: like like this is better like Poultergeist. Right, this is
- 53:26Speaker 4: better than Poultergeist. Right, Like yeah, occasionally you really want
- 53:29Speaker 4: to use that artifact, but like and Poltergeist is great, right.
- 53:33Speaker 3: I give it a five. I can't be talked into
- 53:35Speaker 3: a six.
- 53:36Speaker 2: Can be? I can be talked into a five. I
- 53:38Speaker 2: think that where I want to see that six is
- 53:41Speaker 2: the ability to purge an artifact or creature. Frankly, I
- 53:44Speaker 2: think it'd be game wharping at that point. I also
- 53:47Speaker 2: want to see, like I think that it has very
- 53:50Speaker 2: good flexibility. But I think this is at a five.
- 53:52Speaker 4: Give me and many's these as I can get in
- 53:54Speaker 4: the deck. There you go, Many's I can get on twelve.
- 53:58Speaker 4: Heck yah, well diss do all the things to your stuff,
- 54:03Speaker 4: and then I.
- 54:04Speaker 3: Don't actually if I want twelve, but I want a bunch.
- 54:06Speaker 3: How's that Chauncey three power imp action, destroy another friendly
- 54:12Speaker 3: creature and chancey if you do gain three, nobody wants
- 54:22Speaker 3: to go first on this one, so.
- 54:24Speaker 4: I would have you know, like there's there's a fresh right,
- 54:31Speaker 4: So it's an issue like it's it's a three power creature,
- 54:34Speaker 4: so it's yeah, so it dies to quite a bit.
- 54:40Speaker 4: It's not a two power. It is slow. So the
- 54:43Speaker 4: question is is the action strong enough that it achieves
- 54:51Speaker 4: which status? Right?
- 54:52Speaker 3: Because like a weak creature.
- 54:55Speaker 2: Would you just say that this is which status? Oh?
- 54:59Speaker 3: No, I okay, That's what I'm evaluating. So that's one
- 55:03Speaker 3: of the fact of the matter is after play you
- 55:08Speaker 3: need to you do need to come back to disc,
- 55:10Speaker 3: which just as strong. So there is a shot you
- 55:12Speaker 3: will be coming back to Disk. Doesn't need to be
- 55:15Speaker 3: dealt with after it's played, No, possible, don't. Possibly, I don't.
- 55:22Speaker 3: I will give you, I'll give you a solid Maybe
- 55:26Speaker 3: it does need to be agree it possibly does need
- 55:29Speaker 3: to be dealt with after it's played.
- 55:30Speaker 2: It does fine. I mean there's a number of cards
- 55:33Speaker 2: where it's dust. I mean you have the type of
- 55:35Speaker 2: archetypes that you're trying to push. But frankly, in order
- 55:39Speaker 2: to use this, I have to come back.
- 55:40Speaker 3: To Disclow and you have to discs. You have to
- 55:43Speaker 3: have two creatures on board.
- 55:44Speaker 2: I have to have two creatures on board, So I'm
- 55:47Speaker 2: killing two of my own board, which, frankly, Amber sky's
- 55:50Speaker 2: as a whole struggles. If you get outboarded, you're going
- 55:53Speaker 2: to be losing against amber Skies. And then I'm gaining
- 55:56Speaker 2: three on an action. I don't get a reap out
- 55:58Speaker 2: of this. It's an action for it.
- 56:01Speaker 3: Because my next question was does this die to wookie farting? Yes?
- 56:07Speaker 3: So I give it.
- 56:11Speaker 2: Your tutelage is a little high. I mean, I.
- 56:14Speaker 4: Think, what did what did you give a transcru I
- 56:18Speaker 4: think it is threatening two out of six times, therefore
- 56:22Speaker 4: it's a two.
- 56:24Speaker 3: Okay you are.
- 56:28Speaker 2: I mean I honestly had this out a three. I
- 56:30Speaker 2: don't know what I was drinking at the time, but
- 56:32Speaker 2: I'm putting it down to it too, so.
- 56:35Speaker 3: I can tell you about I'm drinking right now. By
- 56:37Speaker 3: the way, I'm glad because.
- 56:39Speaker 4: Little Lobster New Eggland style India pale.
- 56:42Speaker 2: Air, all right, and I have a florid dance ballexy.
- 56:46Speaker 3: Hops one and two the streak, all right. I don't
- 56:53Speaker 3: know if it's a one or two because it's gonna
- 56:56Speaker 3: die right if I want it dead, it's dead. It
- 56:58Speaker 3: doesn't have elusive so it I can easily fight and
- 57:03Speaker 3: kill it with almost everything. Right, It's not quite it's
- 57:09Speaker 3: a little bit too much for damage pips, but there
- 57:12Speaker 3: are plenty of things I can find to deal three
- 57:14Speaker 3: damage to it. I just I don't know if it
- 57:18Speaker 3: survives to ever use its action.
- 57:21Speaker 2: So here's my question. If it even survives, which I
- 57:24Speaker 2: think it can, are you going to be reaping with
- 57:26Speaker 2: this or are you going to action destroy it in
- 57:28Speaker 2: something else?
- 57:29Speaker 4: I mean, I will action, right because my talent of
- 57:32Speaker 4: this creature.
- 57:35Speaker 3: That's true.
- 57:36Speaker 4: Now, I think let's just pretend you've got another vanilla creature.
- 57:40Speaker 4: You reap it both. That's two Ember. You action, that's
- 57:44Speaker 4: three Mber. But you unless unless you just want to
- 57:48Speaker 4: keep going back to this house.
- 57:50Speaker 3: I think your action. I think you take what you
- 57:52Speaker 3: can get while you can get it. I mean, because
- 57:55Speaker 3: Ember imp is in set, So do I action to
- 57:58Speaker 3: kill it in the Ember IMP for five?
- 58:00Speaker 4: Yeah? I would do that.
- 58:02Speaker 2: Why are you killing your Embryan?
- 58:04Speaker 3: Because when it's distressed us? Sorry, okay, okay, not wrong, wrong,
- 58:11Speaker 3: I I mean maybe, I mean it is possible I
- 58:16Speaker 3: reap with my dust IMP and then I use it
- 58:18Speaker 3: to action and it's got Sixcember. It's a two.
- 58:22Speaker 2: Can we just agree it's the two and moved it's
- 58:25Speaker 2: it's it's a two let's move.
- 58:26Speaker 3: Okay, moving to DAT this or that it gives you
- 58:29Speaker 3: a pip of Vember every time you play it. It's
- 58:31Speaker 3: a two power demon with alpha. Sorry I had to
- 58:35Speaker 3: add that in there. Play choose a house.
- 58:38Speaker 4: That is that the part that kills the play choose
- 58:44Speaker 4: a house.
- 58:44Speaker 3: That house becomes the active house. This card sucks. Well, okay,
- 58:52Speaker 3: I mean it's this card sucks.
- 58:57Speaker 2: So what you're missing on this? Yes, it is a
- 59:00Speaker 2: two for me. I will state that to go ahead
- 59:03Speaker 2: and start us off. But this card has a very
- 59:07Speaker 2: specific purpose and it may be missed early on.
- 59:12Speaker 3: No, no, you do it.
- 59:14Speaker 2: But the short answer is that when you are restricted
- 59:17Speaker 2: on your house call, this card gets around it.
- 59:21Speaker 4: Well, but only in an extremely specific scenario.
- 59:25Speaker 2: Correct, and but that needs to be kept in mind.
- 59:28Speaker 2: But if you are forced, it.
- 59:31Speaker 5: Will allow you as yeah, that alpha, so that at
- 59:37Speaker 5: alpha it has alpha, you can get multiple in a deck.
- 59:41Speaker 3: This card sucks.
- 59:43Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so I don't like the return of alpha.
- 59:46Speaker 2: I don't it just I don't think that's a good
- 59:47Speaker 2: choice from a place like from a game development standpoint.
- 59:54Speaker 3: Got it.
- 59:56Speaker 2: However, what this does is if if DAT is your
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: only disc creature, or is your only disc card in hand.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: It will allow you to play it and then switch
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: over to your house that you're gonna play anyway, So
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: you're going to gain an amber and you have a
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: creature that's out. That is okay, that's acceptable. However, where
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: this really is playing, it is playing around with some
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: of the lines that can be forced. I don't see
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: it as competitive play, I really don't, but it is.
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: It's super subjective as to if you are forced into
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: a house, then you can go ahead and choose to
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: play that, play your discs, and then you get to
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: choose a house which is not in the same step
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: and it's not your house call, and that becomes your
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: active house. Because it says that house becomes the active house,
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: you can now play cards of that house to be
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: able to compare it.
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: So it's specifically if they control the week or the like, into.
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: The fuddle, you can't play cards to this out.
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: Yeah, but fuddle doesn't work. It doesn't help with the fuddle.
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: If you're forced into debt.
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: If there are two two different cards that you are
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: playing against which not a ton of decks, I mean
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: there's decks with them, but then you also have to
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: have this card in the specific time. Yeah, this card's
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: a lot of good card sucks.
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: I mean, look, so all right, the thing that's protecting
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: against is like it back when there was the tracker, right,
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: there would be achievement for this card.
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: You were controlled the week into.
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: Disks and you use that to get out of the
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: control of the week, like that would that would be
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: an achievement because almost never gonna happen. Maybe you know
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: with house enhancements, like yeah, sure, maybe you can also
- 1:01:54Speaker 4: get out of skyborne or something, but like almost never
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: gonna happen. Now, all right, normal scenario. Yes, you can call.
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: This can I can I do my sheep? Which is
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: for a second, ye, why still talking about this card.
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: It's a one move on.
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: It's dog shit, it's ever gonna be good two. The
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: Ember pip does not make it two. But like you're
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: playing this card literally to go into another house. Any
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: card with an Ember pip on it is better than
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: this card. But Wookie, you can get multiples.
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: Which is a problem.
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: Oh my god, don't even get me say. And it's alpha.
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: It's alpha for the worst mechanic that was ever brought
- 1:02:42Speaker 3: into this game is on this card. If this card
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: does not have alpha. It's a six. Because it has alpha,
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: it is now a one. Ecstasy siphon action.
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: No, this is not a six if it does not
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: have alpha.
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: If it doesn't have alpha, it's not card gets blasted
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: if it doesn't have alpha.
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: Actually, because.
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: All of my dish and then tips in my hand,
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: then allow me to play my entire hand.
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: Yeah, you're playing two.
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: So how many.
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: Pips do you need on this to to make it
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: like a three for you, Wookie?
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: All of them?
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: All of them? How many five?
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: I think that it can't jump from a one to
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: a six simply by the removal. I think the alpha
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: is an appropriate spot on this card.
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: Alpha.
- 1:03:32Speaker 3: Stop bringing shitty mechanics back into my game. Please stop,
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: for the love of everything that is good in key Forge.
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: Stop using the dog ship mechanics. Don't bring the tied back.
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: That was a failure. Alpha Omega were a failure.
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: So we're good. So wookiees at a one.
- 1:03:52Speaker 4: I'm excited about Prophecy.
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: Yeah, Draz you're at a two, and I'm going to
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: put in a two in the sheet and Wookie will
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: never check this, so we're good with it.
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: Two will go into the sheet and change it right now,
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: on principle alone, Ecstasy siphon, deal.
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: One my own sheet different, then.
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: I can't change that one. Ecstasy siphon. It is an
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: action card. Play deal one damage to an any enemy
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: creature for each card in your opponent's hand. So basically
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: what this reads is the deal six damage kills Brio.
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: Yeah, it does kill Brio.
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: It's a four.
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: No, that's not a four. Does not kill Brio.
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: Why does it not kill Brio? What do they have
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: chains or something?
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: It's an action Oh shit.
- 1:04:37Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're right, Well forget it.
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: This card sucks. Back to three, back to three, it goes.
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: It kills a creature on a flank, but that's not
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: gonna be bribe boys. Sorry to break this.
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: Yeah, my feelings are hurt.
- 1:04:56Speaker 4: No member, it's a it's no Ember, but it's no Ember.
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: Targeted removal three Yeah, I had it as a three
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: as well for two. It's targeted removal. It doesn't like
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: I literally get to pick a creature and say bye. Allright.
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: Most of eighty percent of the time they tell no
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: tales pip a Vember. Every time you play it, play
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: choose a house, destroy each creature of the chosen house.
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: Game two chains.
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: Yeah, so like this can be both sides. If you
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: share a house and you have creatures out, be aware
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: of that. But outside of that, it's gonna be real
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: good boys.
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, so it's not a board clear or is it?
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: I don't know, could be a board clear. I have
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: no idea it does consider it a board clear. Yes,
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd consider it a board clear,
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: but I mean.
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: It sees that a two.
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: It definitely.
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: Uh three, I'm at least three.
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: I went four. It's not quite a board clear. I
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: still have to gain two. So because I'm shouldn't this
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: be gain a chain, right because all the other big
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: bodied board clears are gain three chains because I'm destroying
- 1:06:25Speaker 3: three houses, right, but I'm gaining two chains for for
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: one house.
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: I feel like I'm on the wrong end of that ledger.
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: Yeah, that the I think that the two chains I
- 1:06:39Speaker 4: think keeps it from like super upside. But like, but
- 1:06:43Speaker 4: totally taking out a single house is pretty good. It
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: can be so so like, all right, hold on, what's
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: Contrino flux is a four?
- 1:06:56Speaker 3: Uh?
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: What's the other Katrina Katrina warp is a four? That's
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: right in there. I think it's a four. This gives
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: an ember but has an extra chain.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: I had it as a five, but yes, when looking
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: in retrospect, I think that it is a four. I
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: think that I think the chance for a single side
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: wipe is really really high here, but the two chains
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: does drop it to a four.
- 1:07:22Speaker 3: Try Hard three power imp creature. Each player randomly discards
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: one third of the cards from their hand, rounding down
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: the sun play.
- 1:07:32Speaker 4: Yeah. I love that they have a card called try
- 1:07:37Speaker 4: Hard that just flavor love it.
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: Wow, all that you hold has become ash.
- 1:07:46Speaker 3: I say, okay, so a third of their cards if
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: they're at six, that means they're discarding two at random.
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: Yep, there's a chance, and they will not be they
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: will not be redrawing. So they're going to be at
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: four and most likely you have played multiple cards.
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: Most likely I played two to three cards, right, and
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: so I'm probably discarding what is it rounding up or
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: rounding down? So you're discarding a card, yeah, one card
- 1:08:15Speaker 3: that you.
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: So it's going to be efficiency to move you.
- 1:08:21Speaker 3: Yeah, so efficiency at a randomness and disruption and disruption
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: from my opponent. Lots of decks do not do well
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: with hand disruption MM hmm, is this a four?
- 1:08:35Speaker 4: It's a five?
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: This is good.
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: You cycle.
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, I don't know what I was drinking again.
- 1:08:51Speaker 3: It gets worse when you have multiples. Yeah, yeah, because
- 1:08:58Speaker 3: if I play try hard, I get rid of two.
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: But then when I played try hard again, I'm only
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: I'm only getting Yeah, if you.
- 1:09:03Speaker 4: Have them at the same time, it's uncommon. I think
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: that's a great spot for it common, Like you don't
- 1:09:08Speaker 4: want to.
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: Try on the discard with it.
- 1:09:11Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's fine for you, know, but maybe you don't.
- 1:09:16Speaker 4: You got a one third chance.
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:09:19Speaker 4: Maybe you don't. You play it again now they have
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: two cards, like a third of the time, two thirds
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: of the time they have two cards. If you have
- 1:09:26Speaker 4: two in your hand, one third of the card the
- 1:09:29Speaker 4: time they have four.
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: Cards, getting them down to get three cards, and you
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: you just card two cards.
- 1:09:34Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's great. I want more. I want a
- 1:09:37Speaker 4: bunch of these.
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: It's fine as many as I can get.
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: As I was saying, I I don't know what I
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: was doing at a time. I had this as a
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: two three? What so I That's why I'm saying I
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: do think it's a.
- 1:09:50Speaker 3: You probably read it as a reap or a five.
- 1:09:53Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:09:55Speaker 4: I'm gonna play this a bunch like this is very good.
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: I think it's a whole bunch. One of the cards
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: you want to see in your in your disk deck. Yeah,
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: it might be might I don't know. I keep getting talked.
- 1:10:08Speaker 4: Break your opponents combos, just give them crappy turns.
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: Like so, we we have delta pe, cauterized vitality, and
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: potentially Fiendish Apprentice at the five. Realized we had not
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: a single brobmer there.
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: Yeah, none of none of those cards were at fire
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: at fives. But anyways, I'm that's what you That's what
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: we had talked about, Cauterized vitality, Delta pee. Yes, I
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: missed that one.
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: Cauterized Vitality, Fiendish Apprentice was that four or five and
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: the other one was Delta pee, which I think in retrospect,
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: well again with the houses from what's there, I think
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: that's a pee can be there.
- 1:10:59Speaker 4: I I want to breaking lots of cars, Dexter. I
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: want to know what you think here, Bud Well, we
- 1:11:06Speaker 4: wait for gaster.
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: He says three. No, but I think that was that
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: was That's what I'm going with. Thanks dex I agree
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: all two is too much, so three it is.
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: God, it's more than a three, I know, okay, I
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: think that, and it is five.
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: I think the four is really where it's at, all right, sheep,
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: I will just put I'll put the little highlights so
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: sheep can know.
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: All right, I'm sorry. A gift of Ember pipa Vember.
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: Every time you play it, play it's an action card.
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: Play destroy up to two creatures for each creature destroyed.
- 1:11:46Speaker 3: This way, the creatures controller games one umber. So I
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: like this card and I am like, mm hmm, it's again. Okay,
- 1:12:01Speaker 3: so again zach card, I am getting to pick two
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: creatures to just make go away. Yeah. For Amber, I
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: think an ember in the right k depending on there
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: are some creatures I would pay you an ember to
- 1:12:17Speaker 3: just like make not be on the board anymore.
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: Yes, but when.
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: At the crutch it is mister Pete kicked me in
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: the crotch with this with a double dust imp mm hmmm,
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: destroying his double dust imps, gaining four and then gaining
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: another two plus a pip of Ember and being at
- 1:12:37Speaker 3: seven out of nowhere has got r ko and nobody
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: told me so. I think this card is a three.
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: I think you're biased from that play, but.
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: I probably am because I was.
- 1:12:51Speaker 4: Like, damn, so, I I am so torn by this
- 1:12:57Speaker 4: one because like so, And remember the Z sour system
- 1:13:01Speaker 4: does not take into account it does not have direct
- 1:13:06Speaker 4: synergies and combos. You are supposed to consider the set,
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: you're supposed to consider the house, and you're supposed to
- 1:13:12Speaker 4: consider a comfetitive play. But this card is so in
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: terms of like, yeah, like some decks, this card is
- 1:13:21Speaker 4: like really good, and some cards this deck is just fine.
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: Right, that's the middle of the road of three, right, Yeah.
- 1:13:28Speaker 4: I look back at forced retirement, which is a two,
- 1:13:31Speaker 4: which I think is right. I think force retirement of
- 1:13:34Speaker 4: a two is correct. Now, now, force retirement was an
- 1:13:37Speaker 4: equadon and whoe and it's like kill a creature that's
- 1:13:40Speaker 4: owner gets a number. So this is like a double
- 1:13:43Speaker 4: forced retirement. But there is enough good destroyed effects in
- 1:13:48Speaker 4: this and in the set where it's at least a
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: three and there are moments set two. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
- 1:13:58Speaker 4: You blow your guys up, bring your try hards and
- 1:14:01Speaker 4: then play them again. Yeah, yeah, like you.
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: Don't, yeah is it?
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: Yeah, try hards you get rid of the three cards
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: from them in their hand. Yeah, then I murderate them
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: or two mber plus one three, then I arise them,
- 1:14:23Speaker 3: and then I'm getting rid of two more cards.
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: Yeah, right now your thought process is wrong because one,
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: because one you're gonna need to be randomly discarding, so
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: you could hit that other try hard. But two you
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: arose and so guess what's in your hands. Hopefully you
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: don't just have those two try hards, but you will
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: most likely have other discards. Yes, you should be able
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: to play them first and then play your try hards.
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: But then it is a higher probability or tryhards are
- 1:14:52Speaker 2: going ahead and hitting each other.
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: Yeah, but I discard real good, I discard randomly the best.
- 1:14:58Speaker 4: Yeah, better so dressed, I discard pretty well, discard draw good.
- 1:15:03Speaker 3: I can I can go it. This is where I
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: wish we had half points. I can go. I am
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: fine with a two. Two, I think I am fine.
- 1:15:14Speaker 4: No, I think this is a three. It has to
- 1:15:16Speaker 4: be better. It has to be better than the force
- 1:15:18Speaker 4: of tirement. There's so many opportunities, and it's a may.
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: It's not you have to kill two, right, so it
- 1:15:23Speaker 4: has to be a three.
- 1:15:24Speaker 3: It is two.
- 1:15:26Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, you can play it and do zero and
- 1:15:29Speaker 4: it's an ember, right, so like it's flexible, so I
- 1:15:32Speaker 4: think it's at least the three. There are, like there
- 1:15:34Speaker 4: are decks where this is amazing. I think three is
- 1:15:37Speaker 4: it's probably.
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: A three yep clipped wings. Another action pip a vember
- 1:15:44Speaker 3: every time you play it, play choose one. I love
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: these cards. Purge a random card from your opponent's hand,
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: or you can shuffle your opponent's archives into their deck.
- 1:15:56Speaker 3: Here's that that card you were talking about them and
- 1:15:59Speaker 3: it just kills when of Death.
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: Here it is Winds of Death, yeah, grim Reminders, yeah,
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: Wins of Death, Yes, yes, it's it's it's having a
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: large impact for your grim miners as a hole with
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: the archiving.
- 1:16:18Speaker 3: Yes, yes, main mainly the main problem Winds.
- 1:16:23Speaker 4: Of Yeah, I mean you're playing against a winds combo deck.
- 1:16:27Speaker 4: You just hold this card until, like you just hold
- 1:16:31Speaker 4: it the whole game until they play it, and then
- 1:16:35Speaker 4: you do the thing, right, like, do you hold this
- 1:16:39Speaker 4: I don't think you do against a combo. Yes, you
- 1:16:42Speaker 4: do against the combo.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: Yes, because look it's shuffle your opponent's archives. It's not
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: even hitting your own, so you're still gonna be able
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: to pull your own when you want. There's no but
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: I'm just some is not. I am telling you that
- 1:16:59Speaker 2: g AR will absolutely destroy you. If you are playing
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: this just for your Pip and you and you and
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: they are set up for a winka like and they
- 1:17:07Speaker 2: want to, then you better don't.
- 1:17:11Speaker 3: We don't call it that here.
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: That's why I went at and brought it out.
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: Okay, so that's cool. Otherwise I just get to purge
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: a random card from your hand. That's cool, so pretty good,
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: which is great. I can't get an Umber Pip and
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: I and I get an Umber Pip for my trouble. Yeah, now,
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: now there is so soco there is Oh yeah, I
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: have too many Cinco demos, sir.
- 1:17:42Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I agree. Five. This is a five.
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: So this is a game changing card against g R
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: and that is against ones. Oh no, no no, it's
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: not even just one set. So all of all of
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: our all of our archive with CODA has archive like no,
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: there are multiple sets hot, yes, that highly rely on
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: archive even WHOA when you have your token making generating
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: cards that you can go ahead and continue to cycle
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: back and forth. I mean, I'm thinking about faith right
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: here where oh I can go ahead and just keep
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: this in my Oh, I'm going to go ahead and
- 1:18:24Speaker 2: have the archive, or hey, I'm going to go ahead
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: and bring back this token ice. You know, I'm making
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: tokens and I'm going to gain an amber off of it. Nope,
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: I don't think by archives. No, faith was more for
- 1:18:35Speaker 2: that was more sand hopper. Yeah, it's more sand hopper,
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: and you can keep it in your hand, which is
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: a little bit different. But again, there's still a lot
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: of decks that are going to want to go out
- 1:18:44Speaker 2: and see this. You see a way and your thinking
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: of your Jenka that's there. Yes, I want to archive. No,
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: but the cards that they people are looking at their
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: archiving key cards for Jenka, they're key their archiving key
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: cards for your amber control that exists in our early sets.
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: And so yes, this idea to shuffle your opponent's archives,
- 1:19:07Speaker 2: even if it's one or two cards, I think that
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: is a great opportunity. If you say, hey, that's not
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: valuable because maybe they're going ahead and skunking me. Maybe
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: they just put nothing in there. Great, then guess what,
- 1:19:20Speaker 2: We're gonna go ahead and we're going to purge a
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: random card from your hand, don't.
- 1:19:25Speaker 4: I oh, it's definitely five.
- 1:19:27Speaker 3: It doesn't. It's just gr five. Sure, I'll give you that.
- 1:19:30Speaker 3: But there are the.
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: World collide, right, the world collide and what Nova used
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: to consistently play. I can go ahead and an archive junk. Okay,
- 1:19:40Speaker 2: well that just got sent back. Now I get to
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: deal with it. I can go ahead and archive this
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: house that I don't want to see. Okay, Like, no,
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: I think there are are competitives five.
- 1:19:50Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with my three and we'll settle out
- 1:19:53Speaker 3: of four three.
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a five, and Sheep will go ahead
- 1:19:57Speaker 2: and barter this one out.
- 1:19:59Speaker 3: Sounds good cheap, and so I love saying.
- 1:20:03Speaker 4: I'll say about clip Wings is that I thought about
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: giving it a six, But I was thinking about one
- 1:20:10Speaker 4: of you know, there's a whole range of archive situations, right,
- 1:20:15Speaker 4: and one of the archive situations that a number of decks,
- 1:20:18Speaker 4: quite a few decks will do, is hey, just archive
- 1:20:21Speaker 4: all of one house and then generate a big turn later.
- 1:20:24Speaker 4: Like that's a pretty common archive scenario. This doesn't super
- 1:20:29Speaker 4: help with that because you're just shuffling it back in
- 1:20:32Speaker 4: the deck, which means, unless it's very early, you're going
- 1:20:37Speaker 4: to be drawing a whole bunch of one house. So
- 1:20:39Speaker 4: it doesn't super help with that type of archive counter,
- 1:20:44Speaker 4: but but it helps with quite a few of the
- 1:20:47Speaker 4: archive ar kit types.
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: I still like the purge a random card from your
- 1:20:51Speaker 3: opponent's hand.
- 1:20:53Speaker 4: That's good too, if they don't have archives. If it's
- 1:20:56Speaker 4: just random sealed like purging a random card does not
- 1:21:00Speaker 4: too shabby.
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: That's the possibility.
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:21:03Speaker 3: I just can't be pushed afore, I definitely can't be pushed.
- 1:21:08Speaker 3: You're crazy, I just can't. I think I think you
- 1:21:10Speaker 3: two have been hurt by Winds of Death one too
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: many times, and therefore you're rating it very high because
- 1:21:17Speaker 3: of one combo that is a very game dominant combo.
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: But if you're.
- 1:21:25Speaker 3: Any other set, this card purge is a card no
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: no ARCHI. But what season, Yes, this season against g R, Yes,
- 1:21:39Speaker 3: it is very very strong. It is a very strong card.
- 1:21:42Speaker 3: It is one hundred percent. I can now agree with
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: you that it is a hold. If you are playing
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: against Winds of Death, I can see that. I totally
- 1:21:51Speaker 3: see it right. But against any other set, this doesn't
- 1:21:54Speaker 3: do what you It is no is no longer a
- 1:21:59Speaker 3: game warping card. It is not.
- 1:22:02Speaker 2: Let's let me let me say it this way. Are
- 1:22:06Speaker 2: fives that were there Delta P destroy an enemy creature?
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: If your opponent controls more creatures, would you rather have
- 1:22:13Speaker 2: Delta P or would you rather have our card that
- 1:22:18Speaker 2: we are just looking at here with clipped wings?
- 1:22:21Speaker 3: And again it depends on the situation. Fienus Apprentice, It
- 1:22:27Speaker 3: depends on the situation. Again, audorize vitality because I am
- 1:22:32Speaker 3: playing playing any other set.
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: But the short answer is that you have for for
- 1:22:38Speaker 2: evaluative purposes, you have to be able to look at
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: it and say, in competitive play and then what this?
- 1:22:45Speaker 3: Why are we not seeing Sonia being like dominant? Then
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: because of it's a rare well, I.
- 1:22:55Speaker 2: Mean, if if everyone.
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: You will let we will we will let Sheep figure
- 1:23:00Speaker 3: out where where this kind that this this card's fate
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: lies with Sheep five Sheep Infinity is true. It is
- 1:23:10Speaker 3: another action pip of Vember. Every time you play it,
- 1:23:12Speaker 3: play deal two damaged to creature if that creature, just
- 1:23:16Speaker 3: if that damage destroys that creature, deal ford damage to
- 1:23:18Speaker 3: each creature that shares a house with the destroyed creature.
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: Common is that common?
- 1:23:29Speaker 4: I mean.
- 1:23:31Speaker 3: It will has the potential to be a one sided board.
- 1:23:35Speaker 4: Wipe has parsis to be one side of board wipe.
- 1:23:38Speaker 4: It's in some ways similar to right they tell no tales,
- 1:23:44Speaker 4: but with no chains, not a right.
- 1:23:46Speaker 3: It's not just like, it's not always like. It's not
- 1:23:48Speaker 3: always this happens too, but there are plenty of little
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: critters roaming around where you can deal two to something
- 1:23:55Speaker 3: and it explodes.
- 1:23:58Speaker 2: Yeah, what's really problematic is that you if you share
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: a house any creature, you are pooched as well.
- 1:24:09Speaker 4: Same thing with tell no Tails.
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: Yeah, which tells me that tell no Tails should really
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: probably go down.
- 1:24:15Speaker 3: But a four, this isn't necessarily a board wipe because
- 1:24:21Speaker 3: it's just for damage. I'm putting it that I have
- 1:24:26Speaker 3: it at a three.
- 1:24:27Speaker 2: I think that hurts.
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: That's where I'm at between two and charity, because the
- 1:24:31Speaker 3: shared house doesn't necessarily always destroy. I mean it has,
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: it's got potential. But you know, the problem I'm going.
- 1:24:40Speaker 2: To be a problem is the problem is that if
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: you have it, if your opponent has creatures that are
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: above a two.
- 1:24:46Speaker 3: Then it's just a damage correct, which is still decent.
- 1:24:51Speaker 2: It's a three, but that's why.
- 1:24:53Speaker 4: It's still a November. But I'm at a two, I
- 1:24:57Speaker 4: put a three three. I there are times when this
- 1:25:01Speaker 4: is great.
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: There are these are quite good, right possibly.
- 1:25:09Speaker 4: I think the more you have the better, because it's
- 1:25:11Speaker 4: more flexibility. So you want to know, yeah, I think so.
- 1:25:17Speaker 2: M hmm.
- 1:25:19Speaker 3: I met a two on it. You guys both said
- 1:25:22Speaker 3: three three three modern three power imp after fight fully
- 1:25:29Speaker 3: heal monsqito deal two damage to a creature?
- 1:25:32Speaker 2: How is this an imp?
- 1:25:35Speaker 3: It's got the legs.
- 1:25:37Speaker 4: It's got like that circular head thing.
- 1:25:39Speaker 3: He's got legs.
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: All right fully heal either deal two to a creature
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: after fight two.
- 1:25:48Speaker 4: After fight at power three with no skirmish like.
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: One a one, this is bad.
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: I got you one as well.
- 1:25:58Speaker 4: I think they're too small to make a difference, Trifolsky.
- 1:26:01Speaker 2: Of the rim.
- 1:26:02Speaker 4: They should reward that too. Think they're too small to
- 1:26:04Speaker 4: make a difference. Try to have it in common. In
- 1:26:06Speaker 4: a house with really good cards, you get a whole.
- 1:26:08Speaker 3: Bunch of these like too much, too much flavor, sir,
- 1:26:12Speaker 3: too much flavor? All right? This is yeah. So here
- 1:26:16Speaker 3: comes to that point in time where I debate on
- 1:26:18Speaker 3: how to pronounce a card. Is it Serene or ce
- 1:26:22Speaker 3: Ryan mm serene? I think it's serene. I think it's
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: Serene too. Four damaged demon recruited a girl named Serene,
- 1:26:36Speaker 3: maybe Serena.
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: She looks.
- 1:26:41Speaker 4: She looks just like.
- 1:26:47Speaker 3: Story because because this Serena is a four powered demon
- 1:26:51Speaker 3: recruiter with it will enhance your deck with one pip
- 1:26:56Speaker 3: of disks scratch to damage to a friendly creature.
- 1:27:01Speaker 2: This is the common enhance house card.
- 1:27:04Speaker 3: That is a bad It's got the enhancement. It's for power,
- 1:27:08Speaker 3: but that is a bad scrap effect. It kills your
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: dust him Yay now now now I just need a
- 1:27:16Speaker 3: deck with dust him.
- 1:27:20Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. Like it is awkward, right because like
- 1:27:26Speaker 4: you've got your uh whatever whatever card. We were talking
- 1:27:31Speaker 4: about the chest card with the tell tale November no
- 1:27:35Speaker 4: gift November. So like, oh that's no sorry, no, wait
- 1:27:43Speaker 4: what am I talking?
- 1:27:44Speaker 3: Are you talking?
- 1:27:45Speaker 4: Nope?
- 1:27:45Speaker 3: Nope, that car is different than.
- 1:27:47Speaker 4: Never mind, never mind, all right, moving on.
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: I have no idea what you're talking about.
- 1:27:51Speaker 3: It didn't make sense. That's why we're moving on.
- 1:27:53Speaker 2: It's basically all in the house enhancement. It is not
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: one of the better ones. In my opinion. I placed
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: it at a two, and that came mostly in that
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: you have won a house enhancement and it's above a
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: three power.
- 1:28:08Speaker 3: Is that?
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: But I put it at a two as a result
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: of the four power in the house enhancement because it's almost.
- 1:28:13Speaker 3: Full of like Tutor beIN rilo, like you don't want
- 1:28:16Speaker 3: to no.
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: No, But but here's the problem. I don't want to
- 1:28:22Speaker 2: play Tutor based on its play effect and crap effect
- 1:28:26Speaker 2: this has. I can play it, and I have the
- 1:28:30Speaker 2: choice of not scrapping it, and if it gets discarded
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: from my hand, I'm not dealing with the scrap effects.
- 1:28:34Speaker 4: I'm okay, Yeah, I have it a three, So it's
- 1:28:40Speaker 4: got the house enhanced three. Yeah, damaging around as an options,
- 1:28:46Speaker 4: not that. Go put that beer back in the fridge.
- 1:28:48Speaker 4: You're drunk, sir. This is a no doubt, no doubt.
- 1:28:53Speaker 4: It too good, guys, it's not. It's not three good yourselves,
- 1:28:59Speaker 4: house enhancement good.
- 1:29:00Speaker 3: I know, house enhancement good, but it's okay three.
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: So here's where I will. I will go ahead and
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: place it. I'm willing to put it a two slash
- 1:29:09Speaker 2: three because I do think that it increases with more
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: house enhancements. But I think a single house enhancement is
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: not great. But I think as we increase and we
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: have multiples that it becomes this honestly probably is a
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: two two three for me something of that sort, because yes,
- 1:29:28Speaker 2: because if you have multiples, if we're getting into three,
- 1:29:31Speaker 2: I become.
- 1:29:32Speaker 3: I'm almost out a one. Like is the house enhancement
- 1:29:35Speaker 3: worth the just yes, terrible creature? Yes, like, there's so
- 1:29:41Speaker 3: many better creature power.
- 1:29:44Speaker 2: It's a four power that probably will stick around for
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: potentially reap. But again, I think that that house enhancement
- 1:29:50Speaker 2: is better than you think.
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: Because I I know that house enhancements can get real dumb.
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: I just don't know if there's enough and set to
- 1:30:00Speaker 3: make a big difference.
- 1:30:04Speaker 4: Maybe I'll give serena call see if she wants to
- 1:30:06Speaker 4: get back together.
- 1:30:06Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure your wife will be thrilled. Yeah. Okay Slayer,
- 1:30:18Speaker 3: Oh no, we're not saying Slayer. Okay, three powered Demon
- 1:30:22Speaker 3: skirmish splash attack three. If there are no enemy creatures
- 1:30:25Speaker 3: in play, destroy Slayer.
- 1:30:29Speaker 4: Why did they have to add that last line?
- 1:30:31Speaker 2: I don't know reasons. Apparently the skirmish and splash attack
- 1:30:37Speaker 2: three is just too much.
- 1:30:39Speaker 3: There had to be a downside.
- 1:30:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just three power, right.
- 1:30:45Speaker 3: I mean, he's fine, nothing special. M h it's kind
- 1:30:50Speaker 3: of low powered. Yeah two two, Yeah.
- 1:30:54Speaker 2: It's low powered. Skirmish is there? I like the splash.
- 1:30:58Speaker 3: Skirmish is not an ability that awards any points whatsoever. Ever,
- 1:31:04Speaker 3: this game is not about fighting. The game is good.
- 1:31:08Speaker 3: Remember it's it's a race, right, Like you just had
- 1:31:12Speaker 3: this conversation with with somebody at our locals, Like it
- 1:31:16Speaker 3: seems real cool and a fun thing to do, but
- 1:31:19Speaker 3: in the end you're just gonna wake up with a
- 1:31:21Speaker 3: hangover praying to the porcelain God. Right, So it's kind
- 1:31:25Speaker 3: of like, which is why it is what happened when
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: I broke up a screen, damn, which.
- 1:31:30Speaker 2: Is why I gave it a two. I do think
- 1:31:32Speaker 2: that the idea for Skirmish with fight effects from Brobner,
- 1:31:36Speaker 2: it makes better. I am actually really.
- 1:31:39Speaker 3: No no, don't go to three.
- 1:31:41Speaker 2: Don't know, no, no, no, no, no no. This is
- 1:31:44Speaker 2: definitely a two.
- 1:31:45Speaker 3: But I think I was teetering on I was teetering
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: on one because.
- 1:31:50Speaker 4: Splash is good.
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: Splash splash, fine, it's a it's.
- 1:31:55Speaker 3: A splash attack. Three. Remember there are five power tokens
- 1:31:58Speaker 3: out there, so about a suspend Demander Suspend Demander. I
- 1:32:03Speaker 3: like the extra a in there, so that's how I'm
- 1:32:05Speaker 3: gonna say it. Four power, four power one armor beast.
- 1:32:09Speaker 3: I don't know what armor he's wearing, but it's there. Suspenders. Yeah,
- 1:32:15Speaker 3: after fight, choose a house. Your opponent cannot play action
- 1:32:18Speaker 3: cards of the house during the next turn. Why does
- 1:32:22Speaker 3: it have to be so slow?
- 1:32:25Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little weird.
- 1:32:28Speaker 3: This set have to be so slow.
- 1:32:32Speaker 4: There's a lot of good stuff in this house.
- 1:32:33Speaker 2: Slow.
- 1:32:34Speaker 4: It's so slow. Slow, too slow. It's like a b
- 1:32:38Speaker 4: fuddle snag. You can't quite controls.
- 1:32:42Speaker 3: It's a less it's a it's it's it's effectively five power,
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: but god slow.
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: I like them. Would you have yeah, would you have
- 1:32:55Speaker 2: preferred to have it as a three to two so
- 1:32:58Speaker 2: three power two armor.
- 1:33:01Speaker 3: I prefer to be on pay like this is so,
- 1:33:06Speaker 3: this is so. While you're waiting to get back to
- 1:33:09Speaker 3: calling this again, Grim Reminders has won the game.
- 1:33:16Speaker 4: Well, unless you play clipped wings. Yeah, come on, Bookie,
- 1:33:20Speaker 4: get on board.
- 1:33:21Speaker 3: Get one of us. I just oh, it is painfully slow.
- 1:33:27Speaker 3: I can see where this has definite possibilities and sealed.
- 1:33:31Speaker 3: But I aged while I'm waiting for this card to
- 1:33:35Speaker 3: do something. I actually like the threat. It's a threat.
- 1:33:41Speaker 3: I think it comes up. Does it even come up?
- 1:33:44Speaker 3: One from Serene? Like? Is it a three? I think so?
- 1:33:48Speaker 4: It's a three.
- 1:33:49Speaker 3: It's not a four. No, card is just so mid.
- 1:33:53Speaker 3: Hold on, what's snag? This card is so mid, bro,
- 1:33:56Speaker 3: Look at.
- 1:33:56Speaker 2: What is no? But I think it offers some options?
- 1:34:00Speaker 4: What is three?
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: All right? Fine, you got me? I will go to three.
- 1:34:04Speaker 3: All right, vapor and but'll enhance your deck with two
- 1:34:07Speaker 3: discard pips, two tight pips. It's also a two. It's
- 1:34:10Speaker 3: also a two power imp. After reap, discard a card
- 1:34:14Speaker 3: from your hand. Oh, this is the one your opponents
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: your opponents next to during your opponent's next turn, they
- 1:34:22Speaker 3: cannot play cards of the discarded cards type.
- 1:34:26Speaker 2: So it becomes much better if you have your opponent
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: discarded card and then they.
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: All However, that's not how it reads. I don't know
- 1:34:36Speaker 3: what this card is. I like the two power creatures
- 1:34:41Speaker 3: always that don't have an on play effect or a
- 1:34:43Speaker 3: really good destroyed effect or always kind of poopu kaka
- 1:34:48Speaker 3: like they just never like they they live in this
- 1:34:50Speaker 3: land of like. But if I can get it to happen,
- 1:34:53Speaker 3: but they never happen, you know what I mean. It's
- 1:34:58Speaker 3: like when your wife tells you when we get home,
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: and you know your wife's everybody's real drunk, and your
- 1:35:04Speaker 3: wife's like when we get home, boy, oh boy, but
- 1:35:08Speaker 3: it never because you because you know she's going to
- 1:35:11Speaker 3: pass out before anything. Right. Sorry, sometimes it depends on
- 1:35:20Speaker 3: how white girl wasted. But you know, you know what
- 1:35:23Speaker 3: I mean, And it's like, oh but but but like
- 1:35:26Speaker 3: you have that hope that like somewhere you know what
- 1:35:29Speaker 3: I mean. I feel like.
- 1:35:31Speaker 4: That's next time.
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: The next time she does, you'll be like, are you
- 1:35:38Speaker 3: get a vapor? Like we just turned that into a verb.
- 1:35:45Speaker 3: Like I want to like this card so much, but
- 1:35:47Speaker 3: it's like it's too damage. It's it's slow again, what
- 1:35:54Speaker 3: do you mean to damage? I'm sorry, it's thank good.
- 1:36:00Speaker 3: It's an on reap effect because if this was anything
- 1:36:02Speaker 3: else effect, it's going straight to the shredder pile.
- 1:36:05Speaker 2: Okay, so picture this. It has two scrap effect cards
- 1:36:10Speaker 2: that are being put in to.
- 1:36:11Speaker 3: Yep, that's what I'm saying that I like it. That's
- 1:36:13Speaker 3: why I like. It gives me. It gives me. I
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: like again, I I I understand all the things you're saying.
- 1:36:19Speaker 3: I get the two type pips excellent, like.
- 1:36:21Speaker 2: It is a it is a reap. So I'm reaping
- 1:36:25Speaker 2: and I'm discarding a card now I have most likely played.
- 1:36:29Speaker 2: It gives me efficiency and then my opponent can't play
- 1:36:37Speaker 2: cards of that type, and frankly, I have a bit
- 1:36:40Speaker 2: more control over what is a higher probability that they're
- 1:36:44Speaker 2: going to not be playing. But I love it's gonna die.
- 1:36:48Speaker 2: I don't care. This is this something that if you
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: see vapor imps, do you want to go ahead and
- 1:36:55Speaker 2: deal with it or you're gonna leave it out.
- 1:36:56Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna deal with it.
- 1:36:58Speaker 2: So that tells you that it is more powerful and
- 1:37:01Speaker 2: something that needs your attention.
- 1:37:02Speaker 3: So then can I call it a three?
- 1:37:05Speaker 2: I have it as it.
- 1:37:06Speaker 3: Can't be less than a three because of the two
- 1:37:10Speaker 3: it's a four. Two type are worth a three?
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: Yes, the type pips plus the reap plus what your
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: disc like, hand efficiency for yourself to discard, and then
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: the impact on your opponent where it is disruption, yes,
- 1:37:24Speaker 2: thank you.
- 1:37:25Speaker 4: Like So, So basically what you're saying, Walk is this
- 1:37:30Speaker 4: is approaching which status. That's that's what you're saying. With
- 1:37:33Speaker 4: the four, I.
- 1:37:33Speaker 3: Think I still get the type pips. It's also have
- 1:37:37Speaker 3: to go that far into that I want to like
- 1:37:40Speaker 3: it so bad, but I just know what two power
- 1:37:42Speaker 3: creatures are and they're debt.
- 1:37:45Speaker 2: It's a four. It is a straight. It is a
- 1:37:47Speaker 2: very easy four for me.
- 1:37:49Speaker 4: What's well, But Tesmo doesn't have the pipses is probably
- 1:37:54Speaker 4: a three.
- 1:37:55Speaker 2: That's that's why I'm asking Infinity Infinity Strop.
- 1:38:00Speaker 3: Also three because as the three, the type, the type
- 1:38:03Speaker 3: tips give it a hole.
- 1:38:04Speaker 2: I think, I think, I think the typeips bring it up.
- 1:38:08Speaker 3: We're not going to a five drass core calm.
- 1:38:11Speaker 4: Down, no no, no, no, no. It was a number as
- 1:38:14Speaker 4: well then I would I am, I'm, I'm, I mean three,
- 1:38:18Speaker 4: and I know I'll get out voted.
- 1:38:20Speaker 3: And that's fine.
- 1:38:21Speaker 2: Infernal tearing is that of four to two. I still
- 1:38:23Speaker 2: think that's better. But for a comment, I really like
- 1:38:26Speaker 2: vapor m all right though, correct, but I steal it
- 1:38:34Speaker 2: is it's a it's a it's a control piece in
- 1:38:36Speaker 2: hand management. I think there's a lot to be gained
- 1:38:40Speaker 2: from it.
- 1:38:40Speaker 3: Just it. I agree, and that's why I'm like, man,
- 1:38:43Speaker 3: I really want to like. I want to like this
- 1:38:45Speaker 3: card like it does all the things I wanted to
- 1:38:49Speaker 3: do in a key for almost all the things I
- 1:38:51Speaker 3: want it doesn't say steal or your opponent loses the game.
- 1:38:55Speaker 2: Let me say it as this three is a suspend
- 1:38:58Speaker 2: demander or three at a vapor imp. You feel those
- 1:39:03Speaker 2: are the same. No, I think vapor imp is exponentially
- 1:39:06Speaker 2: above it, and that you get.
- 1:39:08Speaker 3: The I'm struggling, I'm torn, I'm lan us Morris setting,
- 1:39:16Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going with That was Natalie Sorry, wrong,
- 1:39:24Speaker 3: wrong pop culture.
- 1:39:25Speaker 2: That was Natalie for anyone born in the nice all right,
- 1:39:32Speaker 2: that was.
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: Let's go with then? Ok, then two power best Screecher
- 1:39:42Speaker 3: poison during during their dross card step, your port refills
- 1:39:48Speaker 3: their card to one less card. So what's the suckubyss.
- 1:39:53Speaker 4: Well, this is basically what no, Well, yeah it is,
- 1:40:00Speaker 4: so succubist is good, right, yeah, doesn't just say that.
- 1:40:04Speaker 3: He doesn't say anything else. Right, It's not like.
- 1:40:06Speaker 4: It was a one power. It's identical TOPT one power. So, well,
- 1:40:11Speaker 4: what's the succubist. I probably it's the three. Scubist is
- 1:40:17Speaker 4: a three power, but this has poison wells is a
- 1:40:21Speaker 4: three in the Z score it is, it's a three
- 1:40:24Speaker 4: and Z score. Yeah, I think it escalates, so the
- 1:40:28Speaker 4: more you have, the better it gets.
- 1:40:29Speaker 3: With and I can see that with this too, Yeah.
- 1:40:33Speaker 2: Which is interesting because I had this then a mock
- 1:40:36Speaker 2: as a three four. So it increases with the more that, I.
- 1:40:39Speaker 3: I agree, increase the more you get. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, wait,
- 1:40:47Speaker 3: what guys, what does what does he have? Garu at
- 1:40:51Speaker 3: fu garo? Yeah, probably probably a two.
- 1:40:55Speaker 4: He's got it a one, yeah, because it hates t
- 1:40:58Speaker 4: t well he hates but directly wasn't faro in.
- 1:41:04Speaker 2: Fugaru also shows Yeah, because that's actually in uh melandrac it's.
- 1:41:10Speaker 3: A one in both but it yeah, because it's one
- 1:41:13Speaker 3: power so it dies too literally the damage pity.
- 1:41:17Speaker 2: But I will tell you Fugaru fugaroot is a bit.
- 1:41:20Speaker 3: I think this is a three as well. Yeah, it's
- 1:41:23Speaker 3: easy to kill, it's not terribly crazy to kill, so.
- 1:41:28Speaker 2: I put it as a three, three four. I think
- 1:41:30Speaker 2: that it does scale up if you can get three, four, five. No,
- 1:41:34Speaker 2: I I do think that if you have two of them,
- 1:41:36Speaker 2: it's still out a three, but it like the chance
- 1:41:39Speaker 2: of being able to pull those at the same time.
- 1:41:40Speaker 2: But as soon as you get three, you have a
- 1:41:42Speaker 2: higher probability of having two of them out at the
- 1:41:44Speaker 2: same time, and then you hit correct. But I do
- 1:41:49Speaker 2: think this is a three three four. If I can
- 1:41:51Speaker 2: get three of them out, or if I get three
- 1:41:53Speaker 2: of them in the deck, two of them potentially at
- 1:41:55Speaker 2: the same time, it's it's dealing real nice.
- 1:41:58Speaker 4: Now, the poison basically matter, there's almost nothing.
- 1:42:01Speaker 3: Poison matters a lot. If you can't kill it with
- 1:42:05Speaker 3: an action, you have to fight it. And so whatever
- 1:42:09Speaker 3: you're going to fight it with is going to die.
- 1:42:12Speaker 4: That's fine. Whatever I use my stupidest creature, that's that's fine.
- 1:42:16Speaker 4: That's one less umber for you.
- 1:42:19Speaker 2: So when you're fighting this we're talking about on Tuesday
- 1:42:22Speaker 2: as well, when you're fighting, you're not reaping, which means
- 1:42:25Speaker 2: that I just won that battle.
- 1:42:27Speaker 3: Yeah, I come out on top of that.
- 1:42:29Speaker 2: But there is a real advantage to going ahead and
- 1:42:31Speaker 2: just sacrificing that one amber so that you can go
- 1:42:33Speaker 2: ahead and gain back your hand. That extra card, especially
- 1:42:37Speaker 2: across multiple turns, is important.
- 1:42:39Speaker 3: Yeah, Pendra, I could get on board there. Who's Pendra?
- 1:42:44Speaker 3: And why did she hurt you? Hip November? Every time
- 1:42:48Speaker 3: you play it, this creature games after reap, exalt this
- 1:42:51Speaker 3: creature in each of its neighbors.
- 1:42:55Speaker 4: Oh it actually is Pendra's not Pandora. Literally red Pandora
- 1:43:01Speaker 4: every time.
- 1:43:01Speaker 3: I did the same thing as well, because it's like
- 1:43:04Speaker 3: Pandora's box. No, it's Pendro's box.
- 1:43:07Speaker 4: It's a weird joke. But it was like, oh no,
- 1:43:11Speaker 4: why does she not have a card?
- 1:43:13Speaker 2: You shall have all the amber your heart desires. Yeah,
- 1:43:20Speaker 2: that's a sweet text there, guys. Okay, I'll just back away.
- 1:43:24Speaker 3: I mean, what is this is like repeat disruption? So
- 1:43:27Speaker 3: they can't reap, Like, no, no, they can't. They can't.
- 1:43:31Speaker 3: They're exulting.
- 1:43:33Speaker 2: Yeah, if they have this creature, you can't get to it.
- 1:43:37Speaker 2: It's pushing up. Maybe you have some because there's individual
- 1:43:40Speaker 2: cards that you know based on the amount of amber
- 1:43:42Speaker 2: that's the creature.
- 1:43:44Speaker 3: It is a better form of repeat remember repaint in
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: AOA or just like you can't reap, Yes, this allowed,
- 1:43:52Speaker 3: this gives you the ability to, but.
- 1:43:55Speaker 4: This is worse than that. You want your oponent just
- 1:43:58Speaker 4: not to be able to reap, Like you're playing this
- 1:44:01Speaker 4: on your opponent.
- 1:44:02Speaker 3: Right, No, yeah, you're definitely playing this on your opponent
- 1:44:05Speaker 3: rather just reap.
- 1:44:07Speaker 4: Well, I mean as making the decision, right, they're still
- 1:44:12Speaker 4: valuing the reap every time you reap.
- 1:44:18Speaker 3: I am also, you're just creating a bank for me,
- 1:44:22Speaker 3: So go ahead and reap with it and put a
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: number on there.
- 1:44:25Speaker 4: Yeah, but like this is a competitive score three do
- 1:44:30Speaker 4: you but your opponent is no, it's hold on. We're
- 1:44:33Speaker 4: not assuming you're playing some rando, right, You're playing in
- 1:44:36Speaker 4: arcan competitive with this card. Your opponent is only reaping
- 1:44:41Speaker 4: if it is to more advantage to them than to you. Yes, correct,
- 1:44:47Speaker 4: So this says mostly, don't reap unless it's more valuable
- 1:44:51Speaker 4: than giving your opponents Sometimes three mber, correct, that's a two.
- 1:44:58Speaker 3: You do get to shut down or reap and make
- 1:45:02Speaker 3: a creature absolutely useless.
- 1:45:04Speaker 2: Well, but it's not because it can still fight. But
- 1:45:09Speaker 2: I can still, I can literally reap. I'm just putting
- 1:45:12Speaker 2: amber out for you to take. And if I am
- 1:45:15Speaker 2: controlling you and you can't do anything about that amber
- 1:45:19Speaker 2: that's coming onto my creatures, it does not matter. It
- 1:45:23Speaker 2: is not stopping that reap.
- 1:45:26Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:45:26Speaker 4: The ways to remove it if they geistolating, can like
- 1:45:31Speaker 4: move it to the pool or move it to their
- 1:45:32Speaker 4: own pile, like I don't.
- 1:45:35Speaker 3: It's a two.
- 1:45:37Speaker 4: It's not that great, gives you an umber.
- 1:45:44Speaker 2: I had this at a two as well. I I
- 1:45:51Speaker 2: can't do more than there. There's just nothing on this card.
- 1:45:55Speaker 2: It's just a two. It's correct, but that's where I
- 1:45:59Speaker 2: was looking at two, and I'm like, is it really
- 1:46:02Speaker 2: deserving of the one?
- 1:46:03Speaker 3: Maybe he's gotta be a too. At least get a
- 1:46:05Speaker 3: number off it and I do get to shut something down.
- 1:46:11Speaker 4: It's also this is a good house that you want
- 1:46:14Speaker 4: lots of other cards instead of this, Right.
- 1:46:17Speaker 3: I had it as a two as well, but now
- 1:46:20Speaker 3: if you look at it, I want this card to
- 1:46:23Speaker 3: be good. But this little special this is is this.
- 1:46:26Speaker 2: That's what I was. That's what I'm telling It.
- 1:46:29Speaker 3: Is linked to which tomb of Agony. You get a
- 1:46:32Speaker 3: pepper number for tom of Agony too, And it says
- 1:46:35Speaker 3: this creature gains after purgeing enemy creature.
- 1:46:39Speaker 4: I mean that's at least better. Yeah, Like you're purging
- 1:46:46Speaker 4: an aemy creature that's in play. That's like good. You
- 1:46:50Speaker 4: avoid destroyed effects.
- 1:46:52Speaker 3: Yep, kills Brio, pur purges kills Brio permanently upgrade. It
- 1:46:59Speaker 3: isn't upgrade.
- 1:47:01Speaker 4: I be all right, So I'm going backwards. I'm saying
- 1:47:03Speaker 4: Pendra is a one and you're gonna go Agony three. Well,
- 1:47:11Speaker 4: definitely not four. You have to have a ready creature. Yeah,
- 1:47:15Speaker 4: plenty of creatures in this set two or three. That's
- 1:47:20Speaker 4: how I did it. Originally, I gave Pendra's Box a
- 1:47:24Speaker 4: one and two of three, so they both evened out
- 1:47:28Speaker 4: to twos. They might they might both be it might
- 1:47:32Speaker 4: be one two. You're probably right that you're probably right
- 1:47:36Speaker 4: at Pendra's Box being a one and two of Agony
- 1:47:38Speaker 4: being a two. That's probably the correct the correct analysis.
- 1:47:45Speaker 4: I thought, like, but they have such cool art. It's
- 1:47:49Speaker 4: not bad, man. I like my buildings have chained on them.
- 1:47:55Speaker 4: Who doesn't next Rebod, I'm just gonna put some chades
- 1:48:01Speaker 4: around my house. I would just just you can't have
- 1:48:06Speaker 4: this guy's as.
- 1:48:07Speaker 3: My original my original scoring of it. Pendra's Box was
- 1:48:13Speaker 3: a one, Tomb of Agony was a two. So what
- 1:48:18Speaker 3: do you got?
- 1:48:18Speaker 2: Tomb of Agony and Pendra's Box both come with talent
- 1:48:23Speaker 2: of invidious, which is what I thought.
- 1:48:25Speaker 3: Oh, they come with talent. They're not linked to each other.
- 1:48:28Speaker 2: No, no, no, I.
- 1:48:30Speaker 3: Thought they were linked to each other. What was talent?
- 1:48:33Speaker 2: That is the exalt talent of invidious? Three times?
- 1:48:37Speaker 3: And just oh that's the ship. Oh that's right, because
- 1:48:40Speaker 3: yes it's linked to the ship.
- 1:48:43Speaker 2: So incorrect, And that's why. I was looking for confirmation
- 1:48:46Speaker 2: of that. Can you possibly get away with playing Pendra's
- 1:48:52Speaker 2: box on the ship, So you're reaping to exalt, but
- 1:48:57Speaker 2: it's sticking it on. What's next?
- 1:48:59Speaker 3: I say, you're also giving it to its neighbors. It
- 1:49:01Speaker 3: has to go on an anemy creature.
- 1:49:03Speaker 2: I don't. I think it has to go enemy.
- 1:49:06Speaker 3: But yeah, oh man, I don't know. If no, it
- 1:49:15Speaker 3: doesn't change it really no. But I'm getting Talented. I
- 1:49:19Speaker 3: don't mind Talent of Nvidious though.
- 1:49:21Speaker 2: No. I think that it's a one one two for tail,
- 1:49:25Speaker 2: like Talent's the two, and I think Talon's the two.
- 1:49:30Speaker 2: That's what.
- 1:49:30Speaker 3: Yeah, Because I do like Tomb of Agony to a degree, Yeah,
- 1:49:34Speaker 3: to a degree, I do like that upgrade.
- 1:49:37Speaker 2: It's fine. But if I'm getting Talent to like, because
- 1:49:43Speaker 2: what z score will do is it's going to show
- 1:49:45Speaker 2: that they're all linked.
- 1:49:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: So if I'm getting Pendras, if I'm getting Tomb, which
- 1:49:50Speaker 2: is I'm okay with.
- 1:49:51Speaker 3: And I'm taking up three spots in a twelve card
- 1:49:54Speaker 3: slot correct, which there are better cards than these three.
- 1:49:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it became almost like a two
- 1:50:01Speaker 2: one two or a two one.
- 1:50:03Speaker 3: I like the two one two.
- 1:50:05Speaker 2: Oh god, I will list it and we're gonna move
- 1:50:08Speaker 2: on with life.
- 1:50:09Speaker 3: Yeah, but hey, guys, we did it again. We've now
- 1:50:13Speaker 3: gone through two whole houses for ember Sky's Yay next
- 1:50:20Speaker 3: week is guy? Nope, it's Equadon. Equadon isn't set equadon?
- 1:50:24Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick, I know there's a number of repeating cards.
- 1:50:29Speaker 2: I want you boys just to look over and what
- 1:50:31Speaker 2: are you excited to see return? There is a lot
- 1:50:37Speaker 2: that's in here and I will throw them out without
- 1:50:40Speaker 2: going through and doing walk by. But guilty heart Lord
- 1:50:44Speaker 2: and videos.
- 1:50:45Speaker 3: Guilty Hearts? Why does everyone just walk around with a
- 1:50:48Speaker 3: goddamn heart on for this card? Like it's okay.
- 1:50:51Speaker 2: There's a lot of capturing, so yeah, it's fine.
- 1:50:53Speaker 3: But Lord and videos, I'm happy to see man that
- 1:50:59Speaker 3: I just get absolutely torched by a ritual of Tognath.
- 1:51:03Speaker 3: What was that two weeks?
- 1:51:05Speaker 2: Yeah, Shadow is diss was what we're talking. Rule is
- 1:51:09Speaker 2: bad for being able to, you know, block out your
- 1:51:12Speaker 2: creature like the card text Soul Snatcher with some of
- 1:51:16Speaker 2: the disc creatures that want to just generate Amber is
- 1:51:19Speaker 2: really nice. Actually, yeah, I really like Dance of Doom
- 1:51:24Speaker 2: for its sea rum Drumble is really really nice. So
- 1:51:28Speaker 2: it is a reason to go ahead and stick below
- 1:51:30Speaker 2: the six dust library of Damn Poltergeist.
- 1:51:37Speaker 3: I really like Mindfire, but I know it's not rated
- 1:51:40Speaker 3: highly because it's it's pretty mid I am not at
- 1:51:45Speaker 3: all thrilled to see any of well, yeah, those two.
- 1:51:50Speaker 3: I am thrilled to see the shards. I am not
- 1:51:53Speaker 3: thrilled to any of the shards back.
- 1:51:55Speaker 4: Does anybody else think that they mistakenly put the flavor
- 1:52:00Speaker 4: text on the wrong shards?
- 1:52:02Speaker 3: Wait?
- 1:52:03Speaker 4: Like, look, Shard of Pain forged from curiosity?
- 1:52:10Speaker 3: What you know? I've never read the flavor text from
- 1:52:14Speaker 3: Shard of Pain, but now I have.
- 1:52:15Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, like, let's search here, I'll do search all right,
- 1:52:20Speaker 4: So the original Shards of Strength is forged from joy? Okay,
- 1:52:26Speaker 4: Short of Pain forged from curiosity?
- 1:52:28Speaker 2: Huh?
- 1:52:29Speaker 3: You know that would knowledge, you'd think. Just listen, it's
- 1:52:36Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Who are you to judge how each
- 1:52:39Speaker 3: shared was formed?
- 1:52:40Speaker 4: Okay?
- 1:52:41Speaker 2: Uh?
- 1:52:42Speaker 4: Shard of Hate forged from fear? I don't know, Like
- 1:52:45Speaker 4: maybe that's the most plausible.
- 1:52:47Speaker 3: But there are I mean, let's be honest, there are
- 1:52:49Speaker 3: good reprints in set.
- 1:52:51Speaker 2: Yeah. This is much much better than.
- 1:52:55Speaker 3: Say, between the reprints and some of the better new cards,
- 1:53:00Speaker 3: I mean, maleficorns on set. It's kind of fun. No,
- 1:53:06Speaker 3: I like four damage. I like four damage pips and
- 1:53:09Speaker 3: doubling them. It's not mean, let's be honest. It's not
- 1:53:13Speaker 3: gonna be great, but it's fun. There is not a
- 1:53:21Speaker 3: lot of enhancements in diss of course was no no
- 1:53:25Speaker 3: Dice wasn't a mem right, Yeah, they were in a mem. Yeah.
- 1:53:28Speaker 4: This is fewer enhancements in general in this set, I think,
- 1:53:32Speaker 4: which I don't like. There's a house enhancements, which are
- 1:53:36Speaker 4: we have house enhancements, and then there's a few other enhancements.
- 1:53:39Speaker 4: There's no draw enhancements and discs. I don't know if
- 1:53:41Speaker 4: there ever was.
- 1:53:42Speaker 3: I'm sure there was, yeah, because they had basically the
- 1:53:46Speaker 3: vanilla creatures in every set that gave them enhancements. Yeah,
- 1:53:55Speaker 3: there are a lot. It does feel like there are
- 1:53:57Speaker 3: a lot fewer enhancements and set.
- 1:53:59Speaker 4: There's a lot of few cards and set.
- 1:54:01Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that we already knew. It's how many cards
- 1:54:05Speaker 3: are in set. It's only like two hundred and sum right,
- 1:54:07Speaker 3: it's like fourteen cards. Fourteen yeah, see was about right.
- 1:54:12Speaker 3: Fourteen cards. You're getting just six you're getting just six
- 1:54:19Speaker 3: h six demonic shelves.
- 1:54:23Speaker 4: No, just give me six of the cauterized vitalities. There
- 1:54:26Speaker 4: we go, but go all right, we got anything else
- 1:54:30Speaker 4: to go over. I think that's gonna do it for
- 1:54:31Speaker 4: us this week. I think, guys, Colman, I think we've
- 1:54:37Speaker 4: done a great job. I think I'm gonna give serena call.
- 1:54:42Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna adorn my house in chains. I
- 1:54:45Speaker 4: think this has been a wonderful episode. Elena the Charming.
- 1:54:49Speaker 2: Good luck with that, missus Drascore.
- 1:54:51Speaker 3: Yeah, Chains.
- 1:54:55Speaker 2: I was gonna say a real day, but I'm like,
- 1:54:57Speaker 2: let's not roll into that.
- 1:54:58Speaker 3: That's not going on. But yeah, that's gonna do it
- 1:55:03Speaker 3: for us this week. Thank you all for joining us again.
- 1:55:05Speaker 3: If you guys want input on what these cards get rased,
- 1:55:10Speaker 3: like Dexter dated, what imp put imput because like Dexter
- 1:55:16Speaker 3: did today, Yeah, join us on Thursday eight thirty Central time.
- 1:55:21Speaker 3: Also join the joining the chats on the live play.
- 1:55:25Speaker 3: I'll do a better job of actually watching the chat.
- 1:55:28Speaker 3: Maybe you'll see you. I did not watch it last
- 1:55:31Speaker 3: week at all, and then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh,
- 1:55:32Speaker 3: I should probably look at the hug. But either way,
- 1:55:36Speaker 3: With that being said, we'll see y'all next week.
- 1:55:41Speaker 4: Happy forging everyone, May the forge.
- 1:55:44Speaker 5: Be with you.
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- 1:55:47Speaker 1: just given you a sample of step like this now.
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- 1:55:57Speaker 1: like thanks the coach that he created the most he
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- 1:56:04Speaker 1: your and I'm just being in his friend cu Sinatra.
- 1:56:07Speaker 1: I want to be saying that I'm gonna keep the
- 1:56:08Speaker 1: shit gangsters monsters. But when you got fanatics going so
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: crazy day mabya looking like organ that's crying because you
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: can't get in mafia off and all your mother fucking
- 1:56:15Speaker 1: enemies they want to offer your like fucking dump your
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- 1:56:26Speaker 1: or you've been able to face.
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- 1:56:29Speaker 2: It's say about to set it on you like a
- 1:56:30Speaker 2: T D trade man. I see the way people say
- 1:56:32Speaker 2: I'm so evil.
- 1:56:33Speaker 1: They fucking think that Timothy McVeigh and my DN they
- 1:56:35Speaker 1: are exactly the same. But when I need this game
- 1:56:36Speaker 1: thinks the same, want to be the same.
- 1:56:38Speaker 2: But it's