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- 0:16Speaker 2: Sake is very much the domain of the Japanese, but
- 0:20Speaker 2: one Kiwi brewery has taken on Japan's best and one
- 0:24Speaker 2: gold Queenstown based Zinkuro Sake has claimed the award at
- 0:28Speaker 2: the Tokyo Sake Challenge. It's Drip Priest. Sake Zincudo is
- 0:33Speaker 2: New Zealand's first and only dedicated sake brewer. Brewery and
- 0:37Speaker 2: director Richard Rayld joins me. Now, good morning Richard.
- 0:41Speaker 3: Good morning Francesca. Nice to talk to.
- 0:43Speaker 2: You, love you to have you with us. Zinkuro am
- 0:46Speaker 2: I saying that.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Correctly, your pronunciation was very good. So far, well done.
- 0:50Speaker 2: There we go. That was for form Japanese for you, congratulations.
- 0:55Speaker 2: You and your co director Dave entered this competition to
- 0:57Speaker 2: marke your tenth anniversary. This must be a pretty good
- 0:59Speaker 2: way to celebrate.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's been an amazing journey for us
- 1:05Speaker 3: to reach this point and your tenure has just flown past.
- 1:10Speaker 3: But yeah, what a way to celebrate with this fantastic
- 1:14Speaker 3: award from from the home of the Home of Sake.
- 1:16Speaker 3: So This is a great sort of validation of of
- 1:21Speaker 3: where we're what we've been doing, and where we're at.
- 1:24Speaker 2: What sits your sake apart from others.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Well, I think you could probably say that we actually
- 1:32Speaker 3: we've gone back to the roots of of how sak
- 1:35Speaker 3: used to be made many hundreds of years ago in Japan.
- 1:40Speaker 3: At the moment, saki in Japan's are very much a
- 1:43Speaker 3: big industry. You know, they produce over five hundred million
- 1:46Speaker 3: bottles of saki a year and it's it's a big
- 1:50Speaker 3: industrial process. Well, we've gone back to the sort of
- 1:53Speaker 3: roots of how it used to be made. We have
- 1:55Speaker 3: a very sort of small batch process. Everything is done
- 1:59Speaker 3: by hand. We don't have any machinery in the brewery.
- 2:03Speaker 3: And we actually it could be argued that we actually
- 2:09Speaker 3: have a perfect climate for making psake down here in Queenstown.
- 2:13Speaker 3: You know, Queenstown's a pretty cool climate even during the summer,
- 2:18Speaker 3: and a cool climate is great for making saki. And
- 2:24Speaker 3: we also have some very sort of good water here.
- 2:28Speaker 3: The water here is very soft, soft water is great
- 2:32Speaker 3: for making saki. So all we needed was to get
- 2:36Speaker 3: some rice and that's been that's been the process. We've
- 2:40Speaker 3: got the climate we've got the water, we just needed
- 2:43Speaker 3: some rice.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Where did the rice come from?
- 2:47Speaker 3: So we actually import our rice from from Japan. The
- 2:53Speaker 3: rice that's used for making psaki is actually slightly different
- 2:57Speaker 3: to the rice that you generally eat. You've got table
- 3:01Speaker 3: rice for eating, and then you've got sakki rice for
- 3:03Speaker 3: for making sakke. So a big, a big part of
- 3:07Speaker 3: what we do is is getting some great sakki rice
- 3:12Speaker 3: imported from some sake rice producing areas in Japan hand crafted.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Does that make it a labor intensive process? Oh?
- 3:22Speaker 3: Yes, right, it's yeah. We do everything by hand, including
- 3:30Speaker 3: writing the number of the bottle on the label, putting
- 3:33Speaker 3: the labels on, putting the caps on. We've got a
- 3:36Speaker 3: great team in Queenstown here, our sake brewer brewers do
- 3:42Speaker 3: a fantastic job. They were working very cold conditions because
- 3:46Speaker 3: even when it's hot in Queenstown, we do like to
- 3:48Speaker 3: keep the brewery cold, so all year they're basically in
- 3:52Speaker 3: a very cold environment and doing everything by hand. So
- 3:57Speaker 3: it's a it's a very inefficient way of doing it.
- 4:00Speaker 3: But we've just sort of taken a very sort of
- 4:04Speaker 3: I guess you could call it a conservative approach to this,
- 4:08Speaker 3: not trying to over invest in in the in the business,
- 4:13Speaker 3: just keeping it small batch, authentic and just growing slowly,
- 4:19Speaker 3: and this this prize will hopefully be a springboard to
- 4:24Speaker 3: two greater things.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Is there good demand for it here?
- 4:28Speaker 3: Yeah, it's we're we're sort of really lucky with the
- 4:32Speaker 3: timing of when we started this ten years ago. It
- 4:37Speaker 3: was just at a point a little did we know,
- 4:40Speaker 3: but saki was actually starting to take off around the
- 4:44Speaker 3: world outside Japan, other countries like in the States and
- 4:50Speaker 3: in Europe, they were just starting to get on board
- 4:53Speaker 3: with I guess it's part of the sort of explosion
- 4:56Speaker 3: of Japanese food everywhere around the world. Everyone's loving their
- 5:01Speaker 3: sushi and their sashimi and their tempura these days, and
- 5:05Speaker 3: I guess drinking sake with with Japanese his food sort
- 5:09Speaker 3: of became sort of more of an acceptable thing to do.
- 5:15Speaker 3: And then people have you know, some of these chefs
- 5:18Speaker 3: now on these TV programs that we see on all
- 5:22Speaker 3: the time, they're starting to realize that saki actually goes
- 5:26Speaker 3: really well with not only Japanese food, but also with
- 5:29Speaker 3: with Western food. So now you know, saka is being
- 5:34Speaker 3: paired and matched with with all sorts of foods that
- 5:39Speaker 3: probably the Japanese would have never thought that their their
- 5:42Speaker 3: national drink would would go well.
- 5:44Speaker 2: With Richard, if someone has been a bit slow at
- 5:47Speaker 2: getting mum and Mother's Day present, is it easy to
- 5:49Speaker 2: pick up some zincor today?
- 5:52Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, definitely on your way home, maybe
- 5:57Speaker 3: this afternoon. But no, we we we we we do
- 6:01Speaker 3: online sales of course, and and and there was various
- 6:04Speaker 3: sales outlets all over the country. Yeah, so it's an
- 6:10Speaker 3: exciting time for sure, So please give it a try.
- 6:13Speaker 3: But people that sort of tend to think askia as
- 6:16Speaker 3: being a you know, like a vodka or a tequila,
- 6:18Speaker 3: it's not. It's it's a wine and it's a really
- 6:21Speaker 3: delicate flavors and it really does go well with lots
- 6:25Speaker 3: of different things.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Richard Raoul, thank you so much for your time today.
- 6:29Speaker 2: So that award winning sake is called zin Kuro.
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