Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Dr. Gil Lederman, Host of Radiosurgery New York on WOR midnights and weekends Interview
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, as soon as we heard that Pope Leo had
- 0:04Speaker 1: to undergo surgery because of possible lung cancer, we knew
- 0:10Speaker 1: who to go to, the expert, the best in the country, Dr.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Gil Lederman, host of the Radio Surgery New York at
- 0:17Speaker 1: midnight and also on the weekends. Dr. Lederman, what do
- 0:23Speaker 1: we know about the procedure he went through and what
- 0:26Speaker 1: can we all learn from it?
- 0:28Speaker 2: Thank you, Larry. Thank you for having me on the show.
- 0:30Speaker 2: So on the weekend, we heard that he had a
- 0:33Speaker 2: small nodule in the lung. No other news. We weren't
- 0:35Speaker 2: told if he had a biopsy, if he had a
- 0:37Speaker 2: PET scan, if he had bronchoscopy. Only there was a
- 0:40Speaker 2: small nodule in the lung. So we know that it's
- 0:42Speaker 2: a small nodule in the lung, supposedly. And then yesterday
- 0:46Speaker 2: at Camelli Hospital, which is one of the leading hospitals
- 0:49Speaker 2: in Rome, he had his entire right lower lobe of
- 0:53Speaker 2: his lung removed for adenocarcinoma. So that's what we know
- 0:57Speaker 2: right now. At least that's what the public knows. That's
- 1:00Speaker 2: what I know and you know now. So there's lots
- 1:03Speaker 2: of remaining issues. Number one, did they do a biopsy?
- 1:06Speaker 2: Did they do a PET scan? Is this a cancer
- 1:07Speaker 2: that's traveled? Has it gone to the lymph nodes? Has
- 1:10Speaker 2: it gone to the bone or the lung? Or is
- 1:12Speaker 2: it only just this tiny little cancer that was removed
- 1:16Speaker 2: by removing the entire right lower lobe? So that's what
- 1:20Speaker 2: we know.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Dr. Lederman, this is Curtis. You had mentioned when you
- 1:25Speaker 3: were kind enough to join us Monday when the news
- 1:28Speaker 3: broke that the typical procedure might cause them to have
- 1:33Speaker 3: to deflate the lung for upwards of a week before
- 1:38Speaker 3: there can be recovery. Is that your concept right now
- 1:42Speaker 3: based on more of the information that you have available?
- 1:46Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because the lung is like a balloon. If
- 1:49Speaker 2: you go up and cut out a quarter of the
- 1:51Speaker 2: balloon or a third of the balloon... The balloon's no
- 1:54Speaker 2: longer the balloon. And so, yes, he's probably in the
- 1:58Speaker 2: ICU at Gamelli Hospital with a chest tube in, and
- 2:01Speaker 2: that chest tube is hooked up to a gizmo to
- 2:05Speaker 2: suck out all that air that got into the right
- 2:08Speaker 2: lung cavity. So presumably his lung was sewed up, and
- 2:11Speaker 2: they're going to suck out all the extra air to
- 2:14Speaker 2: reinflate the right lung. It's kind of a painful procedure
- 2:17Speaker 2: to be a normal person all of a sudden being
- 2:19Speaker 2: stuck in a on a ventilator or on a chest
- 2:22Speaker 2: tube in the ICU and usually takes about a week
- 2:25Speaker 2: to reinflate the lung and then the chest tube is
- 2:27Speaker 2: removed and hopefully the lung stays up and he goes
- 2:32Speaker 2: home and then he goes on the next step, which
- 2:34Speaker 2: is to see if the cancer's traveled. If it was
- 2:37Speaker 2: in my practice, things would have been different. At least
- 2:40Speaker 2: we would have spoken to him about the possibility of
- 2:43Speaker 2: a biopsy without removing the right lower lobe. His entire
- 2:47Speaker 2: right lower lobe was removed. which means he'll have less
- 2:50Speaker 2: exercise capacity. I think he's a very active pope. He's
- 2:53Speaker 2: very physically active, and he'll probably notice a diminishment in
- 2:57Speaker 2: his ability to breathe and exercise normally. There were options
- 3:03Speaker 2: for him. In my view, on the little knowledge I know,
- 3:06Speaker 2: if there was a small tumor, and it's only a
- 3:08Speaker 2: small tumor, he could have had noninvasive treatment, and noninvasive
- 3:12Speaker 2: treatments such as radiosurgery. We treat thousands. I've, in fact,
- 3:16Speaker 2: treated 40,000 patients with non-invasive treatment, specifically for this syndication.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Adenocarcinoma of the lung, small nodule, in a person who
- 3:25Speaker 2: just does not want to go through surgery, does not
- 3:27Speaker 2: want to be in the hospital, does not want a
- 3:28Speaker 2: chest tube, doesn't want to lose a third of his
- 3:31Speaker 2: right lung.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Hey, Pope Leo's older brother, we're now learning, also has cancer.
- 3:37Speaker 1: He's been getting treatment for a type of blood cancer,
- 3:40Speaker 1: multiple myeloma. Is that just a coincidence or is it
- 3:45Speaker 1: common that if one member of a family has cancer,
- 3:48Speaker 1: other members might be susceptible or may also have cancer?
- 3:53Speaker 2: I can tell you that in my practice, I always
- 3:55Speaker 2: ask people if they smoke and then I always ask
- 3:58Speaker 2: them if they had secondhand smoke. And in my experience,
- 4:01Speaker 2: which is shocking, but I'm actually going and producing a
- 4:03Speaker 2: study now, many people will tell me, no, they don't smoke.
- 4:07Speaker 2: And actually, they were ex-smokers. Many people tell me they
- 4:11Speaker 2: had no secondhand smoke. Then I'll ask them, but did
- 4:13Speaker 2: your parents smoke at home? And at that point, most
- 4:17Speaker 2: people right now are telling me their parents smoked at
- 4:20Speaker 2: home when they were children, which is a very vulnerable
- 4:23Speaker 2: stage for us. And to have two cancers, it may
- 4:26Speaker 2: well be that his parents smoked at home. And smoking
- 4:31Speaker 2: can increase cancers, so many cancers, smoking, even secondhand smoke,
- 4:35Speaker 2: lung cancers, esophageal cancer. prostate cancers, bladder cancers, kidney cancers,
- 4:41Speaker 2: and heart disease. So much could be done. So it's
- 4:44Speaker 2: certainly possible. And I've actually tried to do a search
- 4:47Speaker 2: about the beloved Pope, but they don't talk anything about
- 4:51Speaker 2: smoking history. So we don't know really about that, and
- 4:54Speaker 2: we don't know about his parents.
- 4:56Speaker 3: Dr. Lederman, I can't recommend your services more highly. You
- 5:00Speaker 3: cared for my dad, my mom, me, and I've just
- 5:05Speaker 3: known you for so many years. So for people out
- 5:07Speaker 3: there who want to learn more and find out all
- 5:10Speaker 3: these alternatives that Dr. Gil Lederman has become an expert
- 5:14Speaker 3: in the field of, you can hear Dr. Gil Lederman
- 5:18Speaker 3: at midnight right here on 710WOR and on the weekends.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Thanks again for this great update, Dr.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Lederman.
- 5:26Speaker 3: The health of the Pope.
- 5:28Speaker 2: God bless you, and God bless the Pope, and I
- 5:30Speaker 2: hope he lives to be 120. And a better phone number,
- 5:33Speaker 2: by the way, is 212-CHOICES. 212-CHOICES comes right to our office,
- 5:37Speaker 2: and it's easy to remember. 212-CHOICES.
- 5:40Speaker 3: We appreciate that.