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#2106 More Podcast Mayhem - Patrick Bonello · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: Okay, it same, it's Harps, it's Patrick and Tiffany. I've
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: been told off nine times on my own fucking show
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: in the first five minutes. This is the third time
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  Speaker 1: I've started a recording because apparently I overmodulate. Well, I
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: think Patrick fucking undermodulates and look at the results he produces,
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: so I think over modulation is the way to go.
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  Speaker 1: Tis been insulted two times, as she's called a cat
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  Speaker 1: a little fuckstick nine times. Patrick's trying to make me
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: more technically capable. None of it's working. It's been a
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: shit fest. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: Over and out. Patrick, Do you think that there's any
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  Speaker 1: chance that you could mold me into what you need
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  Speaker 1: me to be like? Because I'm just born to fit
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  Speaker 1: in for you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a miracle worker. I'm just an engineer.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just an engineer. Oh, that's funny. I do have
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  Speaker 1: some inaptitude. Is that what you're saying straight into the
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  Speaker 1: mic when I get excited?
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  Speaker 2: No? Oh, okay, so we're talking about you getting hyper
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  Speaker 2: excited every time the three of us are together, and
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  Speaker 2: you just your volume goes up. See my pitch goes up,
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  Speaker 2: and you always say that I'm a girl because I
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  Speaker 2: get excited and my pitch goes up.
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  Speaker 1: But you get nothing wrong with being a girl, Patrick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so your volume goes up and my inflections go higher,
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  Speaker 2: but that's not a mad thing. It's great that we
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  Speaker 2: get so excited with me together.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's great that we have such a
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  Speaker 1: representation of you know people, because you're a boy pretty
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  Speaker 1: much like like like you death, no sit down. Oh
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: my god, he's just going to show us mister snufflepagus,
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  Speaker 1: fuck you hell, keep that shit. Yeah, I would be
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  Speaker 1: more offended than Tiff. Keep that well away. And then
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  Speaker 1: there's Tiff. I mean, god, bless so hard to be
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  Speaker 1: a girl?
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  Speaker 2: Have you.
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  Speaker 1: Do you own a dress? We were joking before we
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  Speaker 1: went live, like a dress there.
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  Speaker 3: Are there are a few dresses in my cupboard that
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  Speaker 3: have not had a run for a very long time.
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  Speaker 3: I have to wear a dress in Cairns next month.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not happy about it.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you have to wear a dress? Like do
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  Speaker 1: they determine? Oh, because you've got to do's.
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  Speaker 3: A gala event at the end of the conference that.
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  Speaker 1: You know in Australia that's known as that's that's in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: It's a gala event, so go in feathers.
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  Speaker 3: I might just do that.
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  Speaker 2: You could do that, Kansas and hot and muggy. Wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: it be better wearing a dress? Wouldn't it be more comfortable.
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  Speaker 3: Well defined, comfortable mate.
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  Speaker 1: Emotionally and mentally distressing for her physically? Perhaps?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, could you do it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Hybrid like? Were it killed instead?
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  Speaker 3: I have pulled the jumpsuit card for as many times
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  Speaker 3: as I can, just trying to get by with that.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. Patrick's got several of those. You girls could
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  Speaker 1: get together and fucking just sort through and see what
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  Speaker 1: looks good on you.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you know I wore I wore I went surfing
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  Speaker 2: at the weekend and I put on my.
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  Speaker 1: Hang on hang on, you went surfing?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well it wasn't quite so it was bottom. I
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  Speaker 2: had a boogie board. Okay, that's still hitting the surf,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here's the most accurate you can be. I went
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  Speaker 1: to the beach. We believe that, but hey, everyone, I
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  Speaker 1: went to the beach.
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  Speaker 2: The takeaway from that was that when I when I
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  Speaker 2: left k Rock and Geelong, my going away gift was
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  Speaker 2: a rip curl full piece of wet suit and I
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  Speaker 2: dug it out of the cupboard and it fits. I
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  Speaker 2: still fit into my thirty year old wetsuit. How good
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  Speaker 2: is that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, firstly, nobody goes to the beach and gets in
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  Speaker 1: a wet suit. It's summer.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's cold. It was span of water, mate,
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  Speaker 2: it was a cold day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're soft, bro. If have you ever served, No,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't ever served. You'd probably be good at it
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  Speaker 1: because you're annoyingly fucking athletic.
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  Speaker 2: Better than me.
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  Speaker 1: My first mate, Patrick will just be on the beach
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  Speaker 1: eating sandwiches together, holding hands.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what it's great for washing out
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  Speaker 2: your sinuses when you get dumped that salt water in
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  Speaker 2: the mouth, through the nose, out the nostrils. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: I should have tried that three years ago for my ears.
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  Speaker 1: I might have avoided three years of ear turmoil. Anyway, Well,
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  Speaker 1: welcome Patrick. We do love you, and if we do
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  Speaker 1: love you, please send a photos of you in address.
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: If that doesn't get traction in typ Land, put that
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  Speaker 1: up in the group me or Tiff, both of you
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  Speaker 1: do you know what, I'm sure everyone would love to
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  Speaker 1: see you in a dress as well, or as you
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  Speaker 1: call it, Tuesday, I.
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  Speaker 2: Tell you that I actually once went to a drag
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  Speaker 2: party and shocked up in address no no once. I
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  Speaker 2: lived at it once. So it was a closed party.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't a public thing. And should I tell the story.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you need to mention closed. I think
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  Speaker 1: we realized when you go to a party, it's not
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  Speaker 1: a fucking public event. True. Where was it? I was
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  Speaker 1: in the city square? Okay, just me and nine thousand
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  Speaker 1: other people. All right, So you went to this this
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  Speaker 1: closed event. Tell us about it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the theme was drag, and so I thought, wow,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm going to go as just any old drag,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go as a queen. The queen. So
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  Speaker 2: a friend of mine had a girlfriend who was coming,
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  Speaker 2: and she was a makeup artist. So she spent over
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  Speaker 2: an hour in the chair, had a wig and everything,
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  Speaker 2: and of course I couldn't see what she was doing.
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  Speaker 2: And then when she finished, she got the mirror out
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  Speaker 2: and I was looking at Queen Elizabeth. It was amazing,
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  Speaker 2: like it was the most phenomenal transformation. And then the
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  Speaker 2: whole night I just walked around with the handbag pul
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  Speaker 2: necklace on behalf of my husband to day. It gave
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  Speaker 2: me great pleasure to be there and I just spoke
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  Speaker 2: like that for the whole evening. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to do the whole podcast and that
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  Speaker 1: can I just mention old firstly, Patrick, sorry I cut
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  Speaker 1: you short a bit, good story. And also I could
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  Speaker 1: see you I was going to say pulling off the queen.
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  Speaker 1: As that came into my little filter that I have
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  Speaker 1: in my brain, I'm thinking, I'm not sure that that's
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  Speaker 1: the best term, but let me say impersonating the queen
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  Speaker 1: rather than then the other option. I could see you
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  Speaker 1: doing that quite well. If I just want to mention
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  Speaker 1: before we actually do what Patrick's meant to do, which
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: is share stuff of a technical nature, technological nature. I
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  Speaker 1: noticed before the show that every time you talk about
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  Speaker 1: your cat, the word fucking is associated to it. Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: have you know she had my fucking cat?
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  Speaker 3: Because I shut the door, I'm like, cool, I'll shut
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  Speaker 3: shut the door, and next minute minute from under the.
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  Speaker 2: Desk, I'm like, where the fuck.
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  Speaker 1: Were you you go? I could have said something so
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  Speaker 1: funny then, but I can't go on, so I can't.
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  Speaker 1: It's no it's two years eight, all right, Patrick, Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the show officially, Why don't you start with whatever
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  Speaker 1: story you want to start with. Then I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: read as going to say patronizingly, your little list. See
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  Speaker 1: I've got myself. Well I didn't mean it like that,
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  Speaker 1: but in my head, your little list, And then I thought, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's not very respectful, it's quite patronizing. So I'll read
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  Speaker 1: your big list while you're yacking to us and think
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  Speaker 1: about what's up next. So what do you want to
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  Speaker 1: lead off with? What's got your attention this week?
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  Speaker 2: Can I just get something off my chest? Because I've
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  Speaker 2: been annoyed this week. So every time I've opened a pdf,
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  Speaker 2: my Adobe pdf reader says, this appears to be a
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  Speaker 2: long document. Save time by reading a summary by an
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  Speaker 2: AI assistant, And It's like, fuck off, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: read the whole bloody thing. Don't tell me what the
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  Speaker 2: best part of this bloody pdf is. I'll decide what
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  Speaker 2: the best part of this pdf. Adobe. Stop it. Stop
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  Speaker 2: telling me you're going to summarize my bloody article. Stop
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  Speaker 2: telling me that I don't need to read it, Like,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell? I want to use my brain? Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: now I've got it off my chest. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that is spoken authorized by pissed up Patrick Ja
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  Speaker 1: mayor of Banella, is just Banillo. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: don't open too many PDFs, but oh I do a few,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe, but I get shit coming up all the
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  Speaker 1: time in that going Hey, use this or we can
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  Speaker 1: summarize that for you and would you like to? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I think you just got I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's not going away. That's only going to get more prevalent,
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  Speaker 1: I would think, And I'm just like, nah, I'm good. Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. I think navigating from an
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  Speaker 1: emotional and a mental health point of view, for us
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  Speaker 1: as individuals, navigating the AI landscape without getting sucked into
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  Speaker 1: it and becoming a non thinking, unaware, fucking cyborg in
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  Speaker 1: its orbit is a real responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right. And it's interesting because last time
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  Speaker 2: we did a podcast and occasionally we ask listeners for feedback,
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  Speaker 2: and in fact, we've had two lots of listeners contact
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  Speaker 2: us during the week. One is Mark Keo.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 2: Mark is a trainer and does first aid training in
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  Speaker 2: Western Australia. Really nice guy and he was Hey Mark,
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  Speaker 2: Hey Mark, great, glad you listened to the show.
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  Speaker 1: He drives Tiff doesn't want you here, clearly because she
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  Speaker 1: said so from Patrick. So from Patrick and I Mark,
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  Speaker 1: we alpha males love you Tiff not so much.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah. Evidently he spends a lot of time
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  Speaker 2: on the road in his car, so he has very
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  Speaker 2: little options but to listen to.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm sure there's a few I'm sure there's a
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  Speaker 1: few other things available on the interwebs.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing but than top.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, go and tell us about Mark.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he was saying that he was listening to an
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  Speaker 2: episode of Rogan and Musk, and Elon Musk has been
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  Speaker 2: quoted as saying that within five to six years that
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  Speaker 2: phones will not have any apps on them, and AI
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  Speaker 2: will predict what it is you want to do and
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  Speaker 2: serve it up. So I was thinking, as I was
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  Speaker 2: getting annoyed at Adobe my PDF reader, that would be
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  Speaker 2: the worst possible case scenario to have my phone through
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  Speaker 2: AI decide what I want. And I just thought it
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: was quite an interesting reference that Mark made to the
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  Speaker 2: fact that AI is just absolutely taking over our damn lives.
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  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, but why does that predictive
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing about what you want to know? Why
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  Speaker 1: does that bother you?
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  Speaker 2: So much because it takes the decision making process out
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  Speaker 2: of my hands. There's got to be a point.
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  Speaker 1: Does it though? Does it? Can't you just go no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want you to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's said. What he's saying is there won't be
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  Speaker 2: any apps on your phone. You turn your phone on,
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  Speaker 2: there are no apps.
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  Speaker 1: Here's my here's my will. I will bet one million
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  Speaker 1: dollars in six years. There are apps one?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, TI, if you're writing that down right, yep, I
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  Speaker 2: saw you're writing it down. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Ye.
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  Speaker 2: He's calling them edge nodes, and so you'll skip the
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  Speaker 2: manual app when you're navigating, and the edge nodes will
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  Speaker 2: just do whatever it is you're thinking. You think you
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  Speaker 2: need to do, or he thinks you need to do.
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  Speaker 1: I think the only problem is Elon didn't agree to
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  Speaker 1: my bets. So unless you want it, you two want
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: to go in Harvey's and give me half a million each? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: No tips out, just giving me the big wave off.
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  Speaker 1: And also let's just get through our listeners. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to send send fuck it, send it
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  Speaker 1: to Patrick. Yeah, what's your email? Ag don't send them
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  Speaker 1: to me? No. I love you though, but I'm not
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  Speaker 1: the tech answering, dude, what's your email again? Mate?
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  Speaker 2: I just just go to websites now, dot com dot
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  Speaker 2: au and then you can fill out the contact form
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: and just all right you want to ask, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about MAXI young, Maxwell, Peggy who and you something?
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: We've had two interactive kind of questions in relation to AI,
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  Speaker 2: and I guess the one that Maxwell high Maxwell. This
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  Speaker 2: is where you say, Hi Maxwell, or do you hate
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  Speaker 2: him as well?
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  Speaker 1: Hell? What is wrong with you? Fucking It's not all
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  Speaker 1: about you, you reckon. You can pay attention to the
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  Speaker 1: show for one and like be like you're actually part
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  Speaker 1: of the fucking crew here. You're not meant to be
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  Speaker 1: fucking looking at your computer like you're some person in
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  Speaker 1: the background just fucking editing.
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  Speaker 3: Hi Maxwell, I hope you're really well.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking Hell, I don't think he bought it.
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  Speaker 2: Go on Patrick Well to quote Maxwell AI fuck terrifying. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: nice quote. I like that. So basically, the question he's
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  Speaker 2: asking is who controls digital reality? Because when you think
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  Speaker 2: about it, it's only a very very small, massively massive
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  Speaker 2: wealthy amount of tech companies that now control search, social media, messaging,
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  Speaker 2: video consumption, digital advertising. Because you think about it. Now,
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  Speaker 2: more than fifty percent of all the content that we're
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  Speaker 2: now seeing online is generated by AI and those algorithms
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  Speaker 2: that we're looking at when we see a YouTube reel
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  Speaker 2: and then another reel comes up because they want to
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  Speaker 2: keep you on the app or social media. So the
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  Speaker 2: reality of it is it's a very very small amount
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  Speaker 2: of people who have this ridiculous amount of power. And
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  Speaker 2: that's a frightening thought. And I know we've discussed this
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  Speaker 2: before because we're talking trillion dollar companies, not million, not billion,
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  Speaker 2: but trillion dollar companies that have so much power and
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  Speaker 2: influence And where's the oversight you know we're trying. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: on the tenth of December last year, we saw that
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  Speaker 2: social media became restricted for under sixteens. Now, some smarter
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: under sixteens have got around that. Some parents have managed
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: to keep their kids on socials by basically, you know,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: fudging the system and you know, making out of them
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  Speaker 2: who has that social media. So you know, people have
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  Speaker 2: got round the bands to a degree in Australia. And
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  Speaker 2: it's controversial in itself too because I mean I'm kind
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: of digressing a little bit, but one of the articles
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  Speaker 2: I was going to talk about today was young people
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  Speaker 2: who are now feeling like they're exceptionally isolated because they've
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  Speaker 2: lost all their friends in terms of being able to
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  Speaker 2: interact on the likes of Snapchat and not being able
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  Speaker 2: to contact friends. And you know, the tenth of December
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  Speaker 2: was right at the end of the school right at
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  Speaker 2: the start of the school holidays, and suddenly this blanket
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  Speaker 2: band came out, And so if you were fourteen or fifteen,
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  Speaker 2: then suddenly you weren't able to reconnect potentially with friends.
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  Speaker 2: And if you had a disability, or you're from a
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  Speaker 2: small kind of I guess community that was a little
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  Speaker 2: bit fringe, and your friend were in other states and
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: other parts of you know, the country, then potentially you
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  Speaker 2: could have lost contact because I know stacks of kids
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  Speaker 2: that don't have numbers and phone numbers. They just interact
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  Speaker 2: via Snapchat.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so I need an unequivocal, off the defence answer
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  Speaker 1: from you. Do you think it should have happened or not?
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  Speaker 1: Don't give me any nuance. I just want because it happened,
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  Speaker 1: so it's done. Yes or no? From Patrick James Bonello.
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  Speaker 1: Should it have happened? No? Okay, that's interesting. No, I
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  Speaker 1: respect yours. I here's what I want to say though,
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  Speaker 1: back to like you're going, okay, So there's all of
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  Speaker 1: these these big companies with trillion dollar this and trillion
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  Speaker 1: dollar that, and you are correct. I one hundred percent agree,
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  Speaker 1: And they're they're kind of making the decisions about what
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  Speaker 1: goes out into the world. Da da da. But what
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  Speaker 1: they're not making decisions about is what we individually look at.
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  Speaker 1: Yes they have some influence, of course, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: need to I don't. I couldn't really explain to you
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  Speaker 1: what snapchat is. I've never used it. There's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of things I haven't used. There's a bunch of things
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  Speaker 1: I have. But you know, so what they are doing
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  Speaker 1: is pushing more and more options and I guess available
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  Speaker 1: whatever AI or things that we can interact with or
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: use for good and bad. But like we I think,
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  Speaker 1: as a society, yes all of this is true, but
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  Speaker 1: we keep acting like we have no personal sovereignty or power.
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  Speaker 1: We are just puppets at the at the hands at
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  Speaker 1: the mercy of these puppeteers with AI and this and that,
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  Speaker 1: and we can't control our own feelings or reactions or
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  Speaker 1: choices and our future as fucked, not because of anything.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's complete bullshit. I think we every day
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  Speaker 1: get to choose what we look at, what we interact with,
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  Speaker 1: what we do, what we eat, whether or not we move,
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  Speaker 1: what job we do. You know, It's like, there's so
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  Speaker 1: much more to my future and my wellness and my
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  Speaker 1: purpose and my health and my mental and emotional existence
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  Speaker 1: to what these companies make available to me. And I
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  Speaker 1: think everyone needs to And I'm not trying to be
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  Speaker 1: too fucking philosophical, but it's like this large percentage of
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  Speaker 1: the world to walking around going, oh, we're fucked, No
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: we're not. We're only fucked if you say we're fucked
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  Speaker 1: and you let people control you, and you let nobody
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  Speaker 1: can control your decisions. And can these things be addictive? Sure?
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So are cigarette how many people don't smoke most, how
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: many people don't use severe or serious drugs most, how
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: many people are not alcoholics most? So we have a
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: level of individual responsibility to go, yes, all this shit
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: is happening, and as you say, mate, some of it's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: fucking terrible, and maybe some of the decisions that have
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: been made shouldn't have happened and all that, but at
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: some stage we've still got to go. Yeah, but what
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: about you bro about you?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had this chat briefly in the last episode.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I won't rehash it because we're talking about people being overweight,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: and obviously, you know, whatever you put in your mouth
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: is your decision ultimately. But what I guess, and I
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: agree with you and the reason that I said, and
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I guess I'd like to know what either of you
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: think should we have had this band roll out to
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: under sixteen, Tiff, did you think the band is a
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: good thing or a bad thing or yet to know.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: You're not a good thing?
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Crago?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: My honest opinion is I'm not sure because I just
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: haven't looked at it. I don't know, like I would
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: feel disingenuous making a comment on like I would need
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: to see some kind of evidence either way, not just
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a conversation. But I know I asked you to do
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Okay, so I'm going to go my
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: gut says, probably doesn't. No, I just rationalized that roundback
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: to where I've asked you to do what I'm not
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: going to do, So get off your fucking fence.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: You.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I nearly said the S word. Ah, I know, Craig
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: what did you think I was talking about.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: That's a big in my language, Craig, and say.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: That, look's I think probably it wouldn't. I don't know
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: that it's going to make a massive difference, So I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: would be happy if it didn't happen. And I think
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: this stuff is hard, right because it's it's provocative, and
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: it arouses emotion in people, and once people are emotional,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: they are less logical, they are less practical. And also,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: most people about most topics of significance already have an opinion.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying knowledge or data. I'm saying they have
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: an opinion, and very few people want to change their opinion.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: And I think that in itself is a problem, not
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: that just to be able to be willing to go,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I think I got that wrong. Yeah, I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: think I got that wrong. And I've gotten so many
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: fucking things wrong, even things that you and I have
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: argued about in this podcast. I'm sure I maybe now
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: share your idea, and but you just kind of OK.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I think being open minded but also curious is the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: nice combination.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And you know the reality of it is, when you
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: impose a blanket ban, I realize what the essence of
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the idea behind it is and that is to protect
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: children from you know, the onslaught of AI or the
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: onslaught of social media, and you know the terrible perils
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: there are online. And I want to protect kids as well.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: But isn't it more empowering to educate and guide and
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: nurture and for parents to be proactive and teachers to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: be proactive. And you know, we educate people. So you
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: know a lot of kids, you know, get told don't
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: touch that because you'll get burnt. Now, some kids are
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: going to touch it and get burnt and learn that
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: exercise and learn that lesson themselves, but a lot of
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: kids won't. If you sit down rationally and say this
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: is what's happening, and this is why you shouldn't do this,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: then you know, you can have connected communities online and
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: kids won't be isolated if they want to be able
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: to engage with friends and people of their own age,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: but now can't. So I think that once we have
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: a blanket ban, we're now enforcing something and it feels
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: like a nanny state. And that's what I think prompted
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: my no answer more than anything else, that I think
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: that we should educate and nurture young people and help
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: them and guide them and say, yes, this phone is fantastic.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: There's so many things you can do with it. However,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: there are problems. There are people online that you don't
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: want to interact with, you know, there are connected communities
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: that you probably shouldn't be connected with, or there are
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: algorithms that are going to make your feed feel like
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: you're playing a slot machine and you want to keep
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: scrolling and scrolling and scrolling, scrolling and scrolling. I bought
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: myself a new gadget recently, and I think this is
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: kind of cool. Craigo, can you describe what I'm holding
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: in my hand?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Your penis or the other thing? All right, the other thing? Okay,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: so well I can't see your right hand, so I'm
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: just assuming. So in his left hand, he's holding what
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: looks like to be a hexagonal piece of steel. I
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: would say it's tiff loves that. It's about forty mili
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: dimensionally across and looks like it's about I don't know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: fifty mil high, maybe thirty mil and it's got some
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: kind of electronic timer or clock in the middle, and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: on the other end it looks like a hole, so
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it looks like something from the Space Program. It doesn't good,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Thank goodness, we didn't go the other hand, But there
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: That looks like something from the Space program too.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: See see you don't need to open the door. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: just need to tap on the door. People, get it right?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: You remember what Bezos's ship looked like? It was a
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: giant penis. Remember when he took off in his big
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: spaceship and they went out. You don't remember it anyway?
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Look so anyway I do.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I do. That's because that was out of that movie.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: What was that movie called? No, it's a real thing.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a movie, No, no, no, I know. It
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: was a real ship that looked like a cock. I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: remember that Cox just got a certain resonance, doesn't it
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't it? Well like, there's quite a few
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: people who have them, So let's not get too overwhelmed.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a fair percentage of the population.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: What did you say, at fifty percent of the population,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: it's a fraction less yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And Tiff, don't pretend like I mean. I mean,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the listeners know, you.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Know, the listeners are dying to know what Tim Patrick's
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: left hand, that's what the listeners know, thank.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: You, thank you to bring you back on track to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that thank you.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It looks like something that should have gone extinct in
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the Amazon two billion years ago.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Can I now talk about it?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I've seen it, I've seen it. Just looks super fucking tired.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Go on, Patrick, I'm just thinking about that new movie
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: about the Amazon called Anaconda.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Sorry yet, that's what the anaconda would eat as a
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: fucking snack as a warm up? Okay? Can can you
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: just say what that is? And can we get onto
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: another topic? I think people are jumping off the ship.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: They are sorry, like the sst yp you reckon, Max
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and Mark is still listening because we've name dropped them. Now,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: there's no reason for them to keep listening.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'd be long gone. In fact, if anyone's listening,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: If anyone's still listening, I love you, But what is
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: wrong with you? And why are you still here? Come on?
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: What is that thing?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: So? What it is? It's a timer with pre set
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: timer amounts so five, ten, thirty, twenty five, fifteen, And
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: what what I what I got it for? Was I
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: set this for a specific time period? They want to
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: focus on a task and then I switch off all
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: other distractions and I use it as a way to
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: just focus on. I get distracted really easily. You know,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: clients call for tech support, phone calls come in. So
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: what I've done is I've got.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: To know, you know, tip how he goes I get
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: distracted easily. Then he has to give us ten examples
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of said distractions. Hey, you could have just stopped that
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I get distracted. We get it, we know what distractions are.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: We don't need your list. If I can carry on,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: We've got to get through some other shit. Carry on.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: You wasted more time berating me than I did giving examples.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: For one hundred in the hope that you won't do
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: that in the future.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Let me keep going for trying out loud Jesus anyway.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Blaspheme, Mary listens, Sorry, Mary.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: We're talking blessed Virgin or your mother or both one
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: and the same. Now, So this is a timer, that
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: really is You're very quickly able to set a time
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: for however long you want, and it gives you a countdown.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: But for me, it's a way to disconnect from technology
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: without distractions. And I just thought it was a nice
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: little mechanism to be able to demonstrate how I'm now
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: effectively trying to not be distracted by technology by using technology.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: If can you edit out the last seven minutes? That
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: was fucking the opposite of entertaining, wasn't it? Fuck? And hell,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I want to fucking jump over the balcony right now.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Gadget that Patrick can come in here with.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, can your phone not do the same? Can you
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: not put it on flight mode? And your same your
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: phone does the same thing? Anyway, I don't know. I'm
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: not the tech guy, but it seems fucking unnecessary. Hey,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: great work, trick. Look at him. He looks like the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: little kid in the school yard up the corner. Just
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: fucking no, mates, Ah, let's bring you back into the fold.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Just do better. Five seven hundred years without recharging the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: diamond nuclear battery built to outlast civilization.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: That you are said, Fuck that, I've got a timer.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: If you can bring one of these into the studio,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I'd be happy.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, now this is really this is actually kind of
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: really interesting. Okay, So it's a carbon fourteen diamond battery.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Right now, we're not talking about powering your phone for
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: five and a half thousand years or powering a car,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: but there's a University of Bristol have been doing research
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: into the decaying electrons that he used from carbon rods
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: out of nuclear reactors and the slow release of these
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: carbon rods. So the radiation effectively from the carbon rods
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: in cased in diamond means that you don't get irradiated,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: but if you're in a probe into space, you could
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: potentially keep powering it for nearly six thousand years.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Wow wow yeah. Yeah. If you know that voice that
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: you hate, yes, I'm not going to use it. Think
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: of carbon rod said by that voice, what are you
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: talking about?
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Don't ask about it. I don't want it to come out, your.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Carbon carbon rod to come out?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah. Is that ever going to be a
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: thing though, Like, is that ever going to be operational
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: or is this just a hypothetical?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: No, no, Well they've been able to demonstrate that they
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: can use it. So it's the it's the it's the
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: UK Atomic Energy Authority, and they've teamed up your Bristol
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: so that if look flict it's got start off as researches.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: But these because at the moment these carbon fourteen rods,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: they know they have a radioactive isotope and at the
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: moment they use them for carbon dating, so if you know,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: when they measure how old the dinosaur bone is or
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: something like that, So it's the same technology. So this
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: is something that potentially, yeah, can be used and they
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: need to do something with the carbon rods. So it
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: sounds like it's a great way to use something that's
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: going to be around for a long time and make
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: it practical. So is it going to happen? Looks like
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: it will. Yeah, I don't see why not.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: We'll stand by everybody. I like the next one because
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: it's an intersection of science stuff and stuff that Tiff
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and I enjoy, which is kind of motorbikes electric or
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: they call them e bikes, but they're essentially motorbikes. And
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: before you tell us about the story, have you noticed,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: either of you, all of the stories on the New
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: use about these swarms of e bikes, like literally one
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: hundred kids at a time out on eboat bikes taking
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: over roads and freeways and oh yeah, and some of
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: them do one hundred and ten hundred and twenty kilometers. Now,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: they're essentially a motorbike, but they're riding them without helmets,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: and so that shit is I think that's that's going
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to have to be addressed really quickly, because just.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Before I went back to Tazzy young boy I think
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: he might have been fifteen, had an accident and passed
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: away on an e bike.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so sad. And what people don't understand is
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: like an e bike will out accelerate a lot of
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: motorbikes because they're electric, so it's instant, instant talk, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that's one of that's why EV cars are so Yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: zero to zero to one hundred and three seconds is
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: heading towards common now with evs in the old days,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: like like a Ford Falcon with a three point fifty
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: one will do it in seven seconds or eight seconds,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and that was mind blowing. Yeah, they just so far. Sorry, mate,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: tell us the story if you would.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: So, government authorities, people who are in the medical industry
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: and emergency departments are raising all these red flags and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: saying they're seeing so many more injuries with kids who
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: are using these e bikes. And look, this is the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: tough one, isn't it. The reality of it is that, Yes,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest issue is the importation of bikes
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: that exceed the speed limit. So there are two types
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: of e devices we're talking about. So you've got scooters
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: which are totally electric and they are limited. I think
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: the speed limit in Victoria is twenty two kilometers in
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: our maximum for an e But with an e bike
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it's slightly different because these e bikes they've got what
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: we call battery assist or motor assisted, so you can
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: pedal normally and then you can click into battery mode.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: And that's why they're allowed on the roads because they're
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: effectively a bike, but they've also got a battery and
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: a motor in them. But the ones you're talking about,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: they actually look like motorbikes and they are very, very
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: very fast. So there's a very because the thing is
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: on a pushbike you can go more than twenty two
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: kilometers an hour, so you know, regardless of chronics. So
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the reality of it is when you then combine them
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: with an e bike, yes, it is very fast. The
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: challenge of course is again you know, I guess what
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: are the legalities of the importation of these e bucks.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: We don't make them in Australia, we're just importing them.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: You can go to Big w and buy one there
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: all over the place, and it comes down to well,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: you know, if someone's doing the wrong thing on the roads,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: whether you're doing the wrong thing as a cyclist, whether
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: you're doing the wrong thing as an e bike rider
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: or a motorist, then you can get pulled out by
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: the police in charge. You can be fine. Mind, the
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: issue of safety of young people being doing stupid things
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: on a very very very powerful, quickly accelerating e bike
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: is the big concern. But I wanted to touch on
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: another article that is adjoining to this, because e bikes
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: can be really really valuable for people who are less
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: mobile and can assist them greatly. And the flip side
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: to all of this is a study, a scientific study
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: has found something really surprising that from a fitness perspective,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: people who are older, say fifty to eighty three. They
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: did a research study between the age of fifty to
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: eighty three and they found that people who are in
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: their older stages of life using e bikes are actually
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: healthier and mentally more focused because they're riding and they're
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: being more active, and so there are measurable cognitive and
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: mental health benefits from real cycling even though they're using
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: a bike. So if they're using a traditional bike, now
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: As people get older, then it's harder for them to
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: use a pedal bike. But if they've got an e
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: bike where they can get electric assists, then they're more
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: likely to be independent and riding. And what the found is,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: and this is the lead research for a lady by
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: the name of Louise and Leyland said that in real
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: world urban environments it can make a really big difference
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: because being outdoors, it adds sensory input, navigation, social interaction,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and it can't be replicated by just doing some sort
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: of exercise indoors. So howering older people and helping them
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: stay on the road longer or helping them stay mobile
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: longer using e by technology is going to be really beneficial.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: So if we suddenly ban e bikes because Alaric and
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: kids are getting out there and they're riding too fast,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: what they're effectively doing is making it harder for older
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: people who are going to get real that have benefits
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: and physical benefits from riding e bikes. So I just
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: wanted to throw two of them into the mix.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, dude. I one hundred percent agree
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: with that, lady, And you like that. The thing about it,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: it's all about like with everything. It's almost like dose dependent.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: People go, oh, that's bad. It depends on how much
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: of it, or you know, like an e bike with
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know, five hundred watts of power, which is
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: what they come two hundred and fifty watts, which doesn't
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: mean much to everyone, but that's like what they come
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: out with. It's not a lot of power, right, and
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: they actually won't go faster than twenty k's. But then
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: when they've got bikes which you've got five thousand lots
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: of power, which they also have five kilowatts, right, they've
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: got these very very light things that are actually very
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: high powered. And as you correctly point out, we're talking
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: about different things that just happen to have the same name.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And you think about an older person like TiVo, all
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's got she can ride the bike,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: she can pedal it, she can have some assist if
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: she needs, and she's used her brain, as you suggested,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to navigate potential threats and dangers, and she's solving problems
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: in real time and she can Yeah, I agree, And
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I wish that my only caveat would be with the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: older older people, which sounds hilarious, but maybe tricycles, not bicycles,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: just for I definitely wouldn't want Ronald Mary out on
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: one of them. I think everyone around Maybe it depends
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: on the individual, of course, but maybe around seventy seventy
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: five we should start thinking about something with a bit
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: more stability than two wheels. But other than that, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: think it's it's a great I hadn't really thought of it, so, yeah,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: that's a good highlight. Yeah.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Wasn't there a motorbike that came out that we were
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: talking about on the show a few years ago that
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: had some sort of internal gyroscope that made it more stable?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent? I don't know that ever went to production,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: but I remember that there's but there is. I think
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: there's one motorbike that you push a button at the
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: lights and little wheels come out at the back, like
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: training wheels, So as you roll up to the light,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: seas little wheels come out, so you literally don't even
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: have to put your feet down.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: That's for you, mate.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think, I mean, honestly, as I
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: get older, I think a lot about these, you know,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm dealing with mum and dad right now, and
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we like. There are so many things,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: and we've spoken about this maybe once. But if I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: had all the dough in the world and I could
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: just I could do whatever I want. One of the
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: things I would do is I would get an acre
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: of space and I would build a playground for people
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: over sixty five and essentially a playground, and make it
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: as safe as humanly possible. People would get coached the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: first time or two on how to use everything, and
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I would make it free. If the government did that,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I would respect the government, just because you know, we
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: because we stop playing and play for grown ups, and
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I mean real play, physical play in a balanced strength, coordination, fitness,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: muscular endurance, aerobic endurance, spatial awareness, interaction with others, socializing.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: If you could build something like that that people used regularly,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: such a fucking three dimensional physical, mental, emotional, healthy thing
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: for people to do.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: That is the best thing ever. One of my Do
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: you remember my friend Tina.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Who I do, Oh yeah, she's nice, she's nice.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: In our early thirties, she decided for her birthday that
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: would go and do a McDonald's party, and we're told
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: off by the management for using the playground equipment at macas.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Who's that old cunt sliding down that tube and pushing
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that all year old ahead of him?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: But I think it was in Pran and so it
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: was one of those big indoor things with tubes and
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: we're crawling all right, asked to leave by the manager. Yeah, shocked.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: We also went to a video shop once on someone
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: else's birthday wearing a pajamas and moccasins. Yeah, but see
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the adult play I think that you're right though. I
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: think that's a great idea, you.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Know, mate, I'm not kidding. I would go. I would
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: legit go because how fun is climbing fucking swinging, like balancing? Oh?
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: You tif you would fucking love it. You'd love it, mate,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I'd love it. So many people I know, like, once
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you get over your bullshit, your ego, your fucking self importance,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: fuck all that. That's all unhealthy, emotional fucking shit. Just
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: go down. Put your ego at the front door, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: your self esteem fuck it. Put those in the lockers
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: next to your stinky socks and just fucking get out there.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Just But I bet half of our audience or more
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: ago and fuck I would actually do that. That would
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: be good.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Couldn't we just put a sign outside just average playgrounds
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: and say between this time and this time adults only.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't know, but because I think the children's
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: playgrounds wouldn't be ideal for the for the oldies, so
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I would I would design that environment so government, I
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: will do that for free free. I will never charge
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you one cent. If you give me the financial resources
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and the space, I'll develop this for you for free.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And I will get a team of volunteers who will
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: also work for free that I will train and will
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: revolutionize aged care. So there you go. I don't know
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: that this will ever get to them, but you know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: if you choose to do that, I'm in. I'm on board.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I'd almost almost make that my purpose for at least
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: year or two. How good would it be? Like that
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: excites me? Yeah, doing that for free excites me. Then
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: getting a high paid gig like truly give me that
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: project because that's such a fucking great thing for people.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind being your crash test dummy on that too.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: You know, I'd be there it all out.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Like if I if I pulled that off and I said, mate,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: would you volunteer ten hours a week? Tip, would you
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: volunteer whatever? Five?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Ten?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I'm almost positive you'd both go yes, and Patrick you'd
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: probably go. Can I do more?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Because I don't want to go home now, you know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and if maybe you as well, I have to go home? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Can I just sleep on the big fucking that ropeie
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: thing over there that you know? What's that? Like that
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: webbing that they have like that, like the giant mesh? Yeah?
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: How good would it be? All right, let's let's not
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: get way laid with my dreams and visions for the elderly.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Well, can we bring dogs with as crago? Because I
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: think that's important. Lunar and Fritzi should be.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: There as long as I think dogs, and I think
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you know what also like for a little period of time,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: like a care or a person. But I would have
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: it staffed. It would have to be set hours, and
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: you'd have to have at least one or two. Well,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: if I know, there's a bunch of shits sort out,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: but you sort it out. It's like with every good thing,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: there are always hiccups and problems and things to resolve
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and work around. But what I love is I love
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the idea truly of doing something for nothing. Then people
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: can't question you. You know, there's no agenda. I'm not
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: going to open a fucking this. There's not going to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: be anything sold via this. I want people to volunteer.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I might step away in two years and someone else
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: takes over. But I think when you go, and I know,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: it's very rare when I truly have no agenda, no
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: commercial interest, and if there was some way that money
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: was made from it, I don't want it, do you
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? So yeah, I just think that
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: that is anyway, let's not get too weird and deep.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Patrick, Well, i'd just say just on the same theme.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: A few years ago, my friends who lived down the
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: road from you were Christmas. I think they got me
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: a voucher to a rock climbing place. Now I've done
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of rock climbing over the years. It was
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: my kind of chosen sport. And they got me a
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: voucher and they came with me to this rock climbing
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: gym and I thought this is for kids. You know.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: They had harnesses where you could step up poles and
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: climb up, and I thought, it's not real rock climbing. Well,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously I was really excited to just be
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: with my friends anyway, but it was very much like
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a kid's playground type gym. Oh my god, I had
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: the best time ever. It was so cool because the
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: harness is rather than needing a blayer, so a blayer
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: is when you go climbing, say indoor and potentially outdoors
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: as well, you can do as well. It's called top
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: roping where you put on a harness, You've got a
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: rope attached to you, someone that's holding the other end
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: of the rope, and you start to free climb and
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: then they pull the rope up in that way if
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: you fall, it takes the fall, where in this case
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: they had this automatic mechanism that allows you to be
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: able to clip in. You start climbing and it takes
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: you up automatically, so it doesn't matter if you fall.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: It was a bit nerve wracking for me, who had
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: done rock climbing, to think that I didn't have a bulayer.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: It was all automatic. That was a bit scary. That
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: was the most thing for me. But one of the
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: things that I liked the most is they had a
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: series of poles and you step up onto one pole,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: so just the width of a normal pole in the
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: ground like a ballard, and they progressively got higher and
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: higher and higher, and they went round in a circle
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: and you had to try to jump from one to
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the next, to the next to the next, and it
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: was so much fun and it just made me think
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: about it when you were talking about a playground for adults,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: you know, those sorts of things, and you know it
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: was geared at kids, but adults were obviously able to
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: do that. You know, there was another wall where you
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: could compete with somebody else to climb as high as
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: you could, and then when you got to the top,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: you hit the button and it locked. It locked in
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: your time, so you actually have a time speed climb
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think you want to kill
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: old people. I want to. I want to. You know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: old people cannot do any of that. I'm talking about
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: old people. I'm not talking about strong, healthy, fifty five
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: year olds or whatever the fuck you are.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: But straining for the next Ninja warrior.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, have you actually met an old person?
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about. Come up to La
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Tri Valley to the Ron and Mary Show and you'll
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: go Ah, there it is. I get it. I want
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: to know about I kind of want to know. But
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I asked this question with trepidation. Optional underwear? Fuck the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: pros and cons of going commando?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Study and I thought it might be something interesting.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Notice how his voice went real high that time, Tip,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: it went up four octaves. You know he's a bit
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: nervous or gonna bullshit when his voice goes up so
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: many octaves.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, Can I just ask the question, there's anybody can
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: commando today?
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: No?
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I no, I've never gone commander in my life. I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: don't think we should ask tiff that.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: I think that's today.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Great. Oh that's really good to know.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Did you say great underpants?
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: What?
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Well? You open the door? What makes them great? When
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I say you opened the door? No, I mean, I mean,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I realize that can be metaphoric in many ways. I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: just mean I'm not talking about oh fuck help, I'm
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: just talking about the conversational door.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Continue on.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. There's some stats out of the United States that
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: say that a poll of American people, about seven percent
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: of Americans so they always go commando, and about say
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: that they often go without underwear. Now, I don't think
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I ever have gone Commando. The whole idea of put
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: on a pair of genes and not being able to
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: get everything or feels cares.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I know what are the alleged benefits.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Well, for men, it's more about being able to have
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the you know, you not being constricted because when you
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: bring your testicles too close to your body, they heat up,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: and they because they should. The reason that they're external
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: is because for sperm production, they know it's supposed to
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: be better for you. So you're potentially lowering your sperm
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: count if you wear tight underwear.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: What if I bring my testicles close to you? Is
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: that the same? Also on this topic, we've had a
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: guy on the show called Lucas aon Who's uh Lucas,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: He's no, he's great, he's great. He's in the integrative
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: kind of space and the bio hacker space, and he's
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: right up there. He's like one of the I don't know,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: top ten in the world's highly regarded. But he's always
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: banging on about icing your balls always yeah I know what, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, icing your balls. Just look it up icing
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: testical icing.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Dow algorithm algorithm.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying to you, right, now I'm saying
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: that if some of the boys out there want to
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: find out, we'll just say, what are the benefits of
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: icing your testicles? It's goods clinical, there's not going to
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Hopefully no pictures come up. Oh he's a photo of
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: the step one. Yeah, so.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Patrick's just gone to get the ice cube tray out
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: of his freezer.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Do you know what interests me on this this Patrick?
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: The fact that only seven petrol powered cars sold in
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Norway last month, seven in the whole country changing.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, evidently it helps increase testos thrown levels and sperm quality,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: boost energy and sex drive, and improves sleep quality. Oh
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: that could be good for sleep quality. I better check
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: my face.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Are we're talking about petrol cars or.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I'm still icing nuts?
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Right? So just say that again.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Sorry, benefits, well, sperm quality, sleep, all those sorts of things. Yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: I just said it and I closed the window.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was, but it was faced
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: the right amount of time. I don't want to end
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: up frozen jets crackers.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Well, if you can do that for your one, I'm
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: just asking chatters, do you know what you need to get?
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Get an egg cup with really cold water in it? Oh,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I know, Maybe I don't know. Maybe you figure out
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: your own protocol. I'm not sure.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: How about I will if you do for a week
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: and then the next episode will report back.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Fuck, no, no chance. You do it. You do it.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: You do it for the good of the show and
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: the good of science, and we don't need any videos,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: all right. Talk to us about Norway only selling seven
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: cars that are petrol powered in a whole month of
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: car sales.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: That interesting? Yeah, so there was for the month of January,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: the twenty nine hybrids were sold and ninety eight diesel
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: cars were sold. Okay, so we're talking diesel, but battery
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: electric took more than two thousand sold and only seven
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: actual petrol cars. So they're switch over from you know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: petrol power to EV has been amazing, and so that
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: was just the I guess the biggest uptake of any
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: country in the world has been in Norway. That's a
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: pretty interesting, isn't it.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to find out what your guess without
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: looking the population of Norway.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say, maybe I don't know, eight thousand people,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: eight million people, sorry, eight million, Maybe I don't know.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Is that good? What's your guess? Norway.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not good at that game.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, just because I was thinking two thousand cars
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: is not a lot of cars to sell in a month.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: But the answer is about five and a half million,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: five point six, So you're not Yeah, because I could
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: have guessed anything between three and forty. I wouldn't know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: So you're way accurate, more accurate than I would have been. Perfect.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more and then let's hit
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: the frog and toad. You choose, bro, you choose something
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: that fascinates you or I can.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: No, I will. I will a new start up. And
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: this look, I don't know whether you this. I don't
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: want to sound morbid, but thinking about death, I came
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: to a decision that I wanted to be cremated. And
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: then I thought, well, then what happens to my ashes?
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: And now I know? I am so excited about this
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: a start I saw this a startup as talking about
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: being able to send a thousand people's ashes into space affordably.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: And we're talking as soon as twenty twenty seven. So
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: there's a guy who's the founder, Ryan Mitchell. He founded
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: a company called Space Beyond, and this stems back to
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: when he was just a young guy looking at the sky,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: and he'd been to a recently, had been to the
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: death of a relative and they were cremated, and he
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: went to an ash spreading ceremony, and then he thought,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: now what it's over, you know, So in this case,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I just thought that would be so cool to be
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: able to get my ashes into space. Look. I think
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: it's because remember we've spoken this on our show a
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: few times about my bucket list. So I've got two
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: bucket lists. I've got the bucket list of things that
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: are achievable and the bucket list of things that are
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: never going to happen. And so the achievable one is, yeah,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I want to go to Japan and that sort of stuff.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: But the bucket list of unachievables is going into space.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: But I like the idea of my ashes being fired
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: off into space. I think that would be amazing. And
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: also it would be cool because when you say, well,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: people are going to go visit you, Crago, would you
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: go visit.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Look if you're in space, probably not, but I would
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: look at you through my telescope that I would buy,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: of course at eight thousand X. And I wonder if
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: that star.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Is Patrick, Well, we're all made of stardust anyway. So
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I like the idea of returning, But isn't that the
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: coolest things just me?
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's you. That's you. It's not the all
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: this thing. But I respect that it is for you
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: because my critical mind goes, okay.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: So.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Prove to me that I am in there, Like you
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: put a thousand people's ashes in there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Do you? Or do you just go to empty a
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  Speaker 1: few ashtrays and go that's Brian, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, cynical, And I'm thinking, are they like a thousand
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  Speaker 2: separate little compartments?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's my my like if that was one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent, let okay, let's not be cynical. If that's
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: true and you or party you will being, then I
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: think it's for you. It's fucking amazing like me just
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: understanding how you work and what you love, and if
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: that was true, then I definitely think it's for you.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking great.
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  Speaker 3: Yea.
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  Speaker 2: I decided recently as well, Craigo. I've got the ashes
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  Speaker 2: of my first dog and and hopefully Fritz is going
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  Speaker 2: to be with me for another a long, long, long time.
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  Speaker 2: But part of my will will be to have my
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  Speaker 2: dog's ashes added to my ashes as well.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I just thought, fuck, how can I make fun of you? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Can you stop?
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  Speaker 3: That?
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that nice?
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  Speaker 1: Well it's beautiful?
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  Speaker 2: But yeah I want so Fitzi and Ferdinand, my two dogs,
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  Speaker 2: will be with me forever. Isn't it great? And then
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  Speaker 2: we could be space together.
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  Speaker 1: Well, can I just say you're probably going to live
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  Speaker 1: a thirty another thirty years, so there's a fair chance
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  Speaker 1: there'll be a third and maybe a fourth dog. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not that Fritz is not going to live forty years,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: be the first Schnauzer in the world to live to forty.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: But on the off chance that he dies, let's say thirty,
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  Speaker 1: there might be another dog. Tell people how to find
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  Speaker 1: you yep.
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  Speaker 2: If you go to websites now, dot com, dot au
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: and if you want to chat to us, we want
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: to talk about it, thinks Max and Mark. Feel free
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: to give us a topic to chat about. It could
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: be anything. It could be with you you go commando
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  Speaker 2: or not? See that would be interesting to know how
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: many of our listeners work commando while listening or And
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  Speaker 2: the other thing too is if you want to do
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  Speaker 2: some health exercises with me, tie Chi at home dot
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  Speaker 2: com todau and we could do terfict. Yeah.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: If people want to get punched in the face by
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: you or in a group where they could potentially get
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: punched in the face by you, do you have any
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  Speaker 1: spots like it? Can people come to your group or
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: are they kind of closed now because you're a big
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  Speaker 1: deal and famous?
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  Speaker 3: They can absolutely come to my group by training people
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  Speaker 3: at nine am on a Sunday, I only do one
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  Speaker 3: group session a week. Is it a closed little studio
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  Speaker 3: in Sinkira and it's epic? Ah?
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  Speaker 1: So email us at at my website if you have
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: a website. I know you have an email of course,
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  Speaker 1: or tell people say again tifcook dot com. Yeah. So
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: if you want to go get punched in the face, Patrick, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about the ring. You've done. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I can see you restraining yourself over there. Well done.
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  Speaker 2: I was actually thinking I was going to ask Tiff
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  Speaker 2: if maybe I could come along one Sunday morning. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize you did it at nine am. Can I come?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Please?
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  Speaker 1: This is good. I'm definitely coming to that. I am
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: fucking filming the shit out of that with me. Will
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you be gentle with me? No? Sucking man up. Go
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  Speaker 1: over there, put on your gloves, get the fuck punched
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  Speaker 1: out of you by an almost girl.
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  Speaker 3: And thing session. That session, it's it's all strength.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Hey, tif, Tiff, Tiff, it is a boxing session.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: When Patrick comes, I'll have the gloves on hand.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: All right, we got to We've got to go. Patrick.
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  Speaker 1: Don't start a new conversations. Okay, all right, you kids
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: will say goodbye affair, but everyone thank you. Say goodbye team. Bye, team,