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📲 Is the new FaceTime update watching us? · KIIS Breakfast

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  Speaker 1: This is Kiss Breakfast.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so an Aussie woman has been feeling left and
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  Speaker 2: a little bit puzzled after her iPhone intervened to shut
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  Speaker 2: down an adult FaceTime convo that she was having with
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  Speaker 2: her boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: Now, lots of people do long-distance relationships.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we spoke yesterday about people who have partners
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  Speaker 2: fly in, fly out. So FaceTime plays a huge role
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  Speaker 2: in keeping relationships fresh and healthy. Frankie, this lady Frankie,
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  Speaker 2: was on the phone to her boyfriend. Being the good
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  Speaker 2: girlfriend that she was, she gave him a little flash
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  Speaker 2: of the old Norcs. Oh, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right?
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  Speaker 2: The second she got her boobs out, the call froze.
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  Speaker 2: They couldn't see or hear each other, and on his phone...
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  Speaker 2: He received a message saying, are you sure you want
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  Speaker 2: to stay on this call? Now, of course that man
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  Speaker 2: wants to stay on the call with his girlfriend with
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  Speaker 2: her tits out. Yeah. But basically they are alerting people
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  Speaker 2: when there is signs of nudity now.
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  Speaker 3: So they're probably using AI or something, detecting nudity.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then dropping your call.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: So, um, the call said, um, the call has been
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  Speaker 2: paused because it may show nudity and you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to stay on this call if you don't want to.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: And so Frankie's obviously wigging out because she's like, hang
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  Speaker 2: on a second. Are, are these calls even private?
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  Speaker 4: Like who on earth is monitoring?
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  Speaker 1: Who else is watching this FaceTime?
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  Speaker 3: That is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So, um, it's a pretty mad story and we've got, um,
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  Speaker 2: a special tech expert, Will Guyatt on Zoom to help
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  Speaker 2: us unpack it all.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, May.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Will.
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  Speaker 4: What an introduction to your listeners. You get me to
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  Speaker 4: come on and talk about boobs. But there is no
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  Speaker 4: pervert in California watching all of this material. So there
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  Speaker 4: isn't somebody in a cupboard looking for boobs. But if
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  Speaker 4: you're somebody... doing a long distance relationship and you're using
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  Speaker 4: an apple device and you like a bit of fun
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  Speaker 4: as you would you might want to go and turn
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  Speaker 4: off something called apple's sensitive content warning which is a
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  Speaker 4: feature that's now on your device so if you're using
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  Speaker 4: an iphone or an ipad you've got an option and
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  Speaker 4: you can turn it off and it's there for good
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  Speaker 4: reasons because it's actually designed to protect younger people and
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  Speaker 4: people that that shouldn't be taking these risks but if
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  Speaker 4: you're in a consenting relationship and you're happy to do
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  Speaker 4: this you can switch it off and flash whatever you
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  Speaker 4: want all day. Right, but no one's watching, though.
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  Speaker 3: Just to be clear, AI is what?
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  Speaker 1: Is it just detects?
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  Speaker 3: Like, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. Is that what's happening?
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  Speaker 4: You get taken off air.
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  Speaker 1: Not here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the situation with this is it's called machine learning,
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  Speaker 4: but it's done on your device. So that information isn't
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  Speaker 4: going off of your phone. Your phone is looking and going,
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  Speaker 4: something is happening here that you've currently not given permission
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  Speaker 4: to show. And that's when it stops. So I can
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  Speaker 4: understand why somebody would think this was an absolute invasion
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  Speaker 4: of privacy. Yeah. If you're somebody that's consenting, it's super
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  Speaker 4: easy to switch off. You could do it in the
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  Speaker 4: time that we've been speaking. In fact, if you do
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  Speaker 4: want somebody to show you their boobs, you can go
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  Speaker 4: and turn it off right now whilst we're chatting.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, Will?
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  Speaker 2: I actually think it is a great kind of resource
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  Speaker 2: because my eldest daughter, Charlie, she has an iPad and
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  Speaker 2: she was FaceTiming one of her girlfriends from school only recently.
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  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I actually got a notification
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  Speaker 2: on my phone because obviously I have parental control and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: And it said kind of the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Charlie has been having conversations with Josie, which is her
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  Speaker 2: school friend.
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  Speaker 1: There may have been some nudity. We have ended the call.
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  Speaker 1: They actually ended the call for me. So they didn't
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  Speaker 1: even give Charlie the option.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, it turns out that Josie had come into screen
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  Speaker 2: and she was in her swimmer's.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So there was probably a lot more flesh on show,
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  Speaker 2: but they instantly cut her call off, which I thought
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  Speaker 2: was fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because if it was something else, obviously you
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  Speaker 3: don't care she's talking to a friend in her swimmers.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you're happy with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's great.
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  Speaker 3: But, Will, you're saying if you're an adult, one, no
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  Speaker 3: one's watching. It is your phone that is detecting it.
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  Speaker 4: No bloke is watching you.
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  Speaker 3: No bloke is watching you, and there is an easy
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  Speaker 3: way to turn it off. Now, what if hypothetically– I
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  Speaker 3: had a really small penis.
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  Speaker 1: They probably wouldn't even pick up on it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, would they pick my small one up, not mine?
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean hypothetically?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just hypothetically. Yeah, would it even detect it?
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  Speaker 4: Machine learning. If you showed your, you call it your
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  Speaker 4: tackle here in the UK. Yeah. If you showed your
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  Speaker 4: tackle to the phone enough times, it would probably identify
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  Speaker 4: that hypothetical small penis.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then eventually block it.
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  Speaker 1: If it could even see yours, Nike. It's just like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: It's micropene over here.
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  Speaker 3: A small mushroom.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Will Guyot, thank you, mate. Good for us to
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  Speaker 3: know what we could do with that.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, Will.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Will.