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Tony Parks on Salt Lake Bees and MLB, ABS improving the game (?), Mammoth's success meaningful for Big League Utah's MLB bid (?) · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 2: Tony Parks, the voice of the Salt Lake Bees, is
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Speaker 2: kind of enough to swing by, Tony. How are you.
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Speaker 3: I'm good here in the Sooner State, Chickasaw, Bricktown Ballpark.
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Speaker 3: Beautiful place, beautiful day. I'm at the ballpark and there's
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Speaker 3: nowhere else I'd rather be. So we're doing well.
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Speaker 1: The uh the parent club is off to a rough
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Speaker 1: start so far in this baseball season. How has that
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Speaker 1: affected the Bees with call ups and rotation and things
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Speaker 1: like that.
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Speaker 3: Well, one of the things that has happened is, you know,
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Speaker 3: young talented pitchers who I think have evolved and emerged
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Speaker 3: while with the Bees have had their call ups and
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Speaker 3: had their opportunities at the next level, and maybe it
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Speaker 3: has sped up some of that process, you know, rather
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Speaker 3: than you know, you always hope to have a logjam
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Speaker 3: at certain spots, such as you know, relief pitching, which
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Speaker 3: I know is a really really big dorn in the
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Speaker 3: side of the Angels, and there's just no way to
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Speaker 3: say it. It has not been at the level that
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Speaker 3: they were hoping, you know, especially early in the year.
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Speaker 3: And so while the Bees have I think some really
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Speaker 3: great guys who are starters who they could rely on
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Speaker 3: for some relief opportunities there with the Parent Club. Now
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Speaker 3: the Garry's the guy with great stuff. He added a
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Speaker 3: cutter to his game, and when it's been on point,
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Speaker 3: he's looked dominant. Mitch Ferris has looked dominant. George Clausen,
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Speaker 3: you know, had a no hitter through six, you know,
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Speaker 3: at one point. And Caden Dana, who I think has
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Speaker 3: the best stuff, you know, he missed so much of
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Speaker 3: the spring with illness and so he's getting back to form.
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Speaker 3: He's not quite there yet either. And while at this
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Speaker 3: level with the Salt Lake Bees, they have had individuals
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Speaker 3: who have had individual performances which I think are promising,
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Speaker 3: here's the problem. Inconsistency has just really played this team
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Speaker 3: as well. The Bees have the worst ra in TRIPAA.
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Speaker 3: They walked eleven hitters yesterday, they walked eleven hitters the
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Speaker 3: day before, they got away with it two days ago
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Speaker 3: and won, and yesterday they gave themselves very little chance
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Speaker 3: to win a ball game. And if you don't locate,
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Speaker 3: and then you walk guys a lot, and then when
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Speaker 3: you're not walking guys, you're getting behind hitters, and then
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Speaker 3: you're getting behind good hitters. It is really tough to
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Speaker 3: string together wins. It's tough to keep momentum as a team,
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Speaker 3: to keep confidence overall, because right now this beas team
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Speaker 3: I think has as explosive of an offense that they've
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Speaker 3: had since twenty thirteen. It's been a long time since
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Speaker 3: they've you know, there's seven, eight, nine hitters on any
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Speaker 3: given night are really productive. But yeah, it's affected them
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Speaker 3: because obviously it's caused guys to need to come up
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Speaker 3: and give some and they've been up and down. As
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Speaker 3: we know that that can happen a lot. But the
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Speaker 3: biggest thing is nobody has really been able to say, Okay,
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Speaker 3: this is the part of the bullpen that starts to flourish.
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Speaker 3: This is where it could be consistent and dependable, because
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Speaker 3: while it's been inconsistent for the Angels, it's also been
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Speaker 3: inconsistent for the Bees.
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Speaker 2: How often do you see someone roll through it?
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Speaker 1: And maybe this year, maybe not that you know, part
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Speaker 1: of the fascination I had with grassroots sports is you
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Speaker 1: see someone before everyone knows that they're good, before everyone
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Speaker 1: knows that they're great.
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Speaker 2: Where you see.
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Speaker 1: Someone roll through and you're like, that swing is a
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Speaker 1: major League baseball swing, or that that arm angle and
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Speaker 1: the velocity on that pitch means that we are going
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Speaker 1: to see this guy be a staple somewhere in the majors.
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Speaker 1: How often do you recognize it when you know you're
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Speaker 1: you're doing the daily job, Like you said, you're at
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Speaker 1: the ballpark and these guys are on the climb and
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Speaker 1: you get to be the kind of the first mover.
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Speaker 2: You get to see it before everyone else sees it.
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Speaker 3: I'd say it's usually about monthly. You know, whether it's
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Speaker 3: like Eric Wagerman, you know a few years Zack, where
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Speaker 3: no one really knew who he was, but I had
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Speaker 3: a chance to watch him up close. I'm like, dude,
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Speaker 3: this guy's great, Joey Loperfido who was there in the
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Speaker 3: astro system and had no business playing triple A. I mean,
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Speaker 3: he was unbelievable. He was just out of this world.
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Speaker 3: And you know, so we have a chance to see that,
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Speaker 3: you know, quite regularly. I mean you have your your
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Speaker 3: major stars that you've seen on occasion where you say
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Speaker 3: right away, not only is that guy got to play
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Speaker 3: at the major league level, he's going to make several
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Speaker 3: All Star Games in New X, Y and Z. And
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Speaker 3: that's the Mike Trout We're saying, Alex Rodriguez, you know,
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Speaker 3: going into the way back. But I think it's it's
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Speaker 3: really daily that you'll see somebody. It's just the same
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Speaker 3: guy over a period of time. But usually once a month,
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Speaker 3: I'll see a guy where I go, there's no way
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Speaker 3: he's going to be here long, and there's no way
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Speaker 3: he's going to be coming back. And so that that
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Speaker 3: makes this fun, you know, it makes it fun to
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Speaker 3: see at this level day in and day out, because
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Speaker 3: then when they get there, you know, many times myself
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Speaker 3: and other guys on our staff or other guys from
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Speaker 3: you know, the manager and the hitting coach and everybody else,
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Speaker 3: we're laughing going, oh we knew this. Yeah, this is
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Speaker 3: not a surprise whatsoever. And then you see guys in
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Speaker 3: the league that you know, we're in the postseason last
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Speaker 3: year and you go, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm not surprised
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Speaker 3: to see that happen. So it's a special part of
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Speaker 3: what goes on because before they reach there and they're
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Speaker 3: great there, they were already elite right here. And then
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Speaker 3: the flip side of it, this is the other fun part.
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Speaker 3: I remember Ubaldo him Ns who got shelved the first
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Speaker 3: time that I had a chance to see him, and
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Speaker 3: he did not look good at all, and then the
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Speaker 3: next year he was, you know, starting in the All
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Speaker 3: Star Game. So it's fun, man. I mean, it's just
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Speaker 3: this game, as you know, it's wild, it's crazy. Following
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Speaker 3: it every day is a blessing, and part of it
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Speaker 3: is watching the individual story as it continues to blossom.
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Speaker 1: Tony Parks, I guess here on the Sean O'Connell shore
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Speaker 1: talking a little bit baseball today. Jeff Passen was on
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Speaker 1: the Rich Eisen Show the other day and they were
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Speaker 1: asking and talking about the automation. They were asking about ABS,
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Speaker 1: and Jeff Passen talked about something that I guess I should.
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Speaker 2: Have been aware of.
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Speaker 1: We should have been aware of, but we're not, that
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Speaker 1: there's actually two way communication in game between the operators
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Speaker 1: of the ABS and the umpires to help them kind
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Speaker 1: of dial in and be more accurate on the strike zone.
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Speaker 1: And I was not aware of that until I saw
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Speaker 1: the conversation, and you're calling these games on the daily,
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Speaker 1: most times are we seeing umpires do exactly that. Get
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Speaker 1: the strike zone dialed in. So maybe beginning of the
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Speaker 1: game they'll miss a call here or miss a call there,
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Speaker 1: they'll get a challenge and an overturn, but by halfway
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Speaker 1: through or seventh inning stretch, they've got it dialed to
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Speaker 1: where they needed to.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think there's any doubt the most underrated
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Speaker 3: part of the ABS system, which by the way, has
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Speaker 3: been better for game major League Baseball more than any sport.
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Speaker 3: Every time there's an improvement of the game, everyone swears
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Speaker 3: there's a monster in the closet and it's going to
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Speaker 3: be the worst thing ever, and there's gonna be flags
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Speaker 3: all over the field and games are going to take
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Speaker 3: twelve hours, And now we're going to have that. And
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Speaker 3: every time it's better. The pitch clock's better, the three
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Speaker 3: disengagements is better, the game times are better, the rhythm
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Speaker 3: and the flow of the game is better. And one
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Speaker 3: thing that's happened with the ABS system, for one, it
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Speaker 3: is showing how good these guys are most times when
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Speaker 3: they miss, And of course we'll show the one on
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Speaker 3: social media where they're way off most times when they miss,
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Speaker 3: we are talking millimeters and whether it's in the zone
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Speaker 3: out of his home. If you look at most teams
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Speaker 3: every single game before I get ready, I look at
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Speaker 3: the teams percentages and they're correct fifty two, wrong forty
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Speaker 3: eight or vice versa. So the capchers are just about
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Speaker 3: the same with their challenges and the hitters are the same.
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Speaker 3: When it comes to the umpires, we're talking about the
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Speaker 3: naked eye and an invisible box here. That's what we're
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Speaker 3: talking about. So it's showing that they're better than they've
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Speaker 3: ever been. But the second thing, the most underrated thing
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Speaker 3: about ABS is that it's in game feedback for an umpire.
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Speaker 3: The umpire swears that pitch dropped down beneath the zone
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Speaker 3: before it got there. The catchers swore it hit the
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Speaker 3: very bottom part of the zone with the top of
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Speaker 3: the ball. They challenge it. They look up and you
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Speaker 3: see the top sliver of the ball just clip the
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Speaker 3: zone and the strike zone pops up red and the
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Speaker 3: calls overturned and it's a strike and you see it
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Speaker 3: all the time, and then umpires are like, okay, great,
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Speaker 3: and it's like I said, it's in game feedback, so
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Speaker 3: as the game goes on more and more often you'd
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Speaker 3: see just how correct they are. So people have talked
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Speaker 3: about you, it's about the time these umpires had, you know, accountability. Oh,
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Speaker 3: they were already held accountable. They're judged on every pitch,
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Speaker 3: they're judged on correct, incorrect, how far out of the
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Speaker 3: zone they are, and they are demoted and promoted accordingly.
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Speaker 3: It's it's something that happens here. So the best thing
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Speaker 3: that started to happen with officiating in all sports. You
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Speaker 3: see how it's a controversy in this one it should
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Speaker 3: be left because there's legitimate accountability, there's immediate feedback, and
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Speaker 3: you can tell that they are getting so close as
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Speaker 3: close as you can be to perfecting it, because you'll
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Speaker 3: never perfect it. We're talking about humans here. But this
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Speaker 3: is as good as I think you can ask it
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Speaker 3: to be, other than an ABF calling every single ball
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Speaker 3: in the strike automatically, right, like that's the next thing.
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Speaker 3: But they even have now the check sling challenge, which
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Speaker 3: we just had in this series, with the first series
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Speaker 3: to have it, and we've had it and it's been great.
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Speaker 3: It's exactly what you wanted to do, and I think
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Speaker 3: the players overall love when the game moves closer to honesty.
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Speaker 3: And that's what the game has moved closer towards.
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Speaker 1: That, the feedback loop of helping officials to dial things in.
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Speaker 1: I want it in other sports now, I want it
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Speaker 1: in football. I want there to be, you know, the
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Speaker 1: eye in the sky saying, hey, that defensive end that
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Speaker 1: is complaining about being held on every play, he's actually
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Speaker 1: got a legitimate gripe.
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Speaker 2: Heer, Let's pay a little extra.
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Speaker 1: Attention, right, you know, like and technology and AI like,
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Speaker 1: I am a skeptic of all of it unless it's working.
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Speaker 1: And the proof of concept that started with minor league
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Speaker 1: baseball is obviously translated to major league baseball.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty cool to see.
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's great to see. And my opinion on this
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Speaker 3: every time is, especially when it's not subjective, the subjective
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Speaker 3: is difficult. That's difficult, right, holding past interference, There's so
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Speaker 3: many different parts of that. My thing is, if we
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Speaker 3: have something to make it better, and it's quick and
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Speaker 3: efficient and it just makes the game better overall, why
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Speaker 3: wouldn't we use it. We're in this era where we
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Speaker 3: have it. Officiating is a variable in every game. It's
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Speaker 3: a variable that affects each team, and when it's poor
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Speaker 3: one way, it benefits the other. You know, so people
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Speaker 3: would always defend it with you all human errors part
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Speaker 3: of the game, right, Well, if I make a mistake
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Speaker 3: as a player, that hurts my team, but if an
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Speaker 3: umpire makes a mistake that helps one team, hurts another,
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Speaker 3: and it swings games. We don't expect perfection, but can
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Speaker 3: we get it as close to that as possible because
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Speaker 3: the umpires want to you know, they want to get
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Speaker 3: it right. That's part of what this is the other
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Speaker 3: thing that's made this better. And I know people will
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Speaker 3: disagree with me on this. I love that we don't
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Speaker 3: have Aaron Boone walking out with his veins poking out,
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Speaker 3: screaming and yelling over zero point two millimeters on a
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Speaker 3: pitch outside, acting like this umpire is completely incompetent. Now
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Speaker 3: you got ejections, Now you got screaming matches, now you've
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Speaker 3: got all the circus going on. I don't understand why
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Speaker 3: that was ever good for the game, especially when sometimes
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Speaker 3: you had guys screaming and yelling over correct halls. It
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Speaker 3: was pathetic and it got out of hand. Now in
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Speaker 3: the previous era had the I'm the umpire, this is
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Speaker 3: my strike zone. I control this, and it turned into
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Speaker 3: this weird, macho game where you had to try and
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Speaker 3: please the umpire and then you know, and then deception
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Speaker 3: becomes a cool part of what goes on. And I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 3: but if you go look at games in the seventies
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Speaker 3: and eighties and even the nineties with Eric Craig, and
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Speaker 3: you watched the nonsense that was going on, the strike
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Speaker 3: zones that were all over the place. But people talked
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Speaker 3: about it like, you know, this is good for the game. No,
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Speaker 3: it wasn't. It really wasn't. And now you're starting to
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Speaker 3: see the game a little cleaner. You're seeing it played
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Speaker 3: still at a terrific level. These players are awesome, and
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Speaker 3: now it's starting to show a better version of baseball
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Speaker 3: than I think we've ever had. Despite what all of
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Speaker 3: those who you know, like I said, they claimed there
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Speaker 3: was a monster in the closet it was going to
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Speaker 3: destroy and ruin the game. The game didn't need to
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Speaker 3: be left alone. Rob Manfer needed to improve this game.
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Speaker 3: And I'm not just sticking up for a commissioner. I
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Speaker 3: think he has constantly tried to find ways to do
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Speaker 3: it without turning it into a circus, and it's I
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Speaker 3: think it's made it better for everyone involved.
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Speaker 1: Tony parks for another minute or two here on the
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Speaker 1: Sean O'Connell show, talking baseball. The Utah Mammoths just wrapped
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Speaker 1: up their season, came up short in the first round
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Speaker 1: playoff series against Vegas. Only the second year, second year,
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Speaker 1: excuse me, the franchise existence, and they're on pace. It's
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Speaker 1: nice now that we have a two year sample size, Tony.
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Speaker 1: What have we learned from hockey in Utah that could
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Speaker 1: be applied to baseball in Utah? Should Major League Baseball
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Speaker 1: arrive the way we hope it will.
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Speaker 3: I've said it from the very beginning. Utah is a
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Speaker 3: place for sports and events. They love events, they love sports.
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Speaker 3: When hockey got involved with this, people ask, well, okay, well,
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Speaker 3: how will they really respond to this? Really well, they
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Speaker 3: don't even care what slew footing is. They don't even
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Speaker 3: know what some of it. They don't need to. I
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Speaker 3: think offside, this is how the goals are scored, and
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Speaker 3: they'll learn as they go. But the biggest thing is
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Speaker 3: this is their team. You make it their team. You
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Speaker 3: make it legitimate, you make it big, and I think
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Speaker 3: the ownership and for an office, there's a ton of
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Speaker 3: credit with their work, from branding to everything that they've
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Speaker 3: done with presentation, fam friendly events. They haven't had to
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Speaker 3: begbie fans. They'll come out. They're excited about this. They
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Speaker 3: love being a part of something special. I've tried to
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Speaker 3: explain this to so many as to why Salt Lake
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Speaker 3: is not just a great place or say hockey, but
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Speaker 3: also baseball or anything else. The non baseball fan will
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Speaker 3: come out to learn more and more about it. The
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Speaker 3: baseball fans definitely coming. So what you learn is Utah
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Speaker 3: loves their events, which like the Olympics or whatever it
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Speaker 3: might be. If there's something big and something cool going
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Speaker 3: on and it's theirs, they're gonna support it. And I
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Speaker 3: think that's what makes the fan in the state of
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Speaker 3: Utah really special. They were that way with the Jazz,
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Speaker 3: now they're that way with the Mammoth. They would be
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Speaker 3: that way with the major league team, and I think,
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Speaker 3: you know, it just goes to show. I mean, Salt
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Speaker 3: Lake is the smallest market with multiple major pro sports teams.
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Speaker 3: They are the smallest market with multiple major sports pro
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Speaker 3: sports teams and they fill that place and they bring
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Speaker 3: the energy. They would do the same thing if you
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Speaker 3: had a third with Major League Baseball. It's what makes
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Speaker 3: Salt Lake special. And you don't know unless you're there.
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Speaker 1: Have you seen the realignment proposal that would a company expansion?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, with all of the different discussions on possibilities and
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Speaker 3: divisions and you know, multiple cities who could be involved
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Speaker 3: in this. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So one of the things that people don't like is
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Speaker 1: an al Northeast. And again this is not this is
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Speaker 1: just a mock up. This is Hey, this is how
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Speaker 1: we chop the league up. If you bring a West
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Speaker 1: Coast team in, we hope it would be salt Lake.
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Speaker 2: Portland is obviously a candidate there.
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Speaker 1: You bring in probably a Nashville or a Charlotte to
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Speaker 1: the southeast, and what are the proposals? Has Yankees, Matt's
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Speaker 1: Red Sox, Phillies all in the same division. Now that's
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Speaker 1: either something that you love or you hate. Where does
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Speaker 1: Tony Park stand on it?
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Speaker 3: Well, my thing is as long as you continue to
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Speaker 3: have some of the same rivals play one another, you know,
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Speaker 3: still regularly like they would and don't skip out on
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Speaker 3: years and things like that, then I'm perfectly fine with it. Look,
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Speaker 3: we saw this in the NFL. I'm not going to
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Speaker 3: be the staunch fight against some of the realignments. It's
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Speaker 3: going to come at a cost of odd team somewhere
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Speaker 3: or something like that taking place. I'm really alright with it.
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Speaker 3: The majority of those basic rivals are still in place,
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Speaker 3: right where we like them, right where we want them.
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Speaker 3: So I don't think there's anything too heavy to complain about,
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Speaker 3: right And they'll get into you know, geographical connections and
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Speaker 3: all of that. But I don't mind the Yankees and
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Speaker 3: the Mets in the same division. I don't mind the
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Speaker 3: Phillies and the Yankees in the same division. I'm perfectly
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Speaker 3: finding the Cubs and Socks. I know there was one
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Speaker 3: of the proposals that had them in the same division,
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Speaker 3: which I think would make that city on fire. You know,
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Speaker 3: the biggest thing is this, are we going to create
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Speaker 3: something that's great for the game overall? And it's the
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Speaker 3: overall thing is a plus. I don't get into the
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Speaker 3: splitting hairs of what my preferences would be. We watched
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Speaker 3: it with the NFL when they expanded to thirty two
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Speaker 3: and did the divisions the way they did and what
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Speaker 3: Seattle moved from the AFC to the NFC and it's
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Speaker 3: turned out really well. And you know what, I think
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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball would have success with it too.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know how much you pay attention to
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Speaker 1: horse racing. We had the Kentucky Derby. The Derby winner
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Speaker 1: is not going to race in the Preakness, right, No
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Speaker 1: Triple Crown pursuit this year. And there's there's something going
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Speaker 1: on where you know, there's a conversation because the quick
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Speaker 1: turnaround is what the horse trainers don't like. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: let's move these races back a little bit, give a
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Speaker 1: little bit more rest. And it's just it's messing with
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Speaker 1: the traditional timing of a sport that is steeped in tradition.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, I don't care one way or another.
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Speaker 1: I don't follow it close enough to care one way
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Speaker 1: or another. But we have these conversations with other sports.
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Speaker 1: NBA basketball, too much, too little? Could you move it forward?
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Speaker 1: Could you move it back? We're talking about it in
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Speaker 1: college football right now. The coaches want the season to
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Speaker 1: be over by the second week in January.
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Speaker 2: Is there a certain.
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Speaker 1: Place timing for any event in sports that you just
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Speaker 1: you don't want to see change. Whether it's New year six,
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Speaker 1: New Year's Day, college bowl games, whether it's Opening Day
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Speaker 1: in baseball, is there is there a timeline that cannot
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Speaker 1: be messed.
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Speaker 2: With in your mind?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rose Bowl, New Year's Day?
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Speaker 2: Okay, you know.
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Speaker 3: And I'm not the I'm not the one that you
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Speaker 3: have to go by the traditions because it's always been
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Speaker 3: this way for whatever reason. That's one that I'm like, Man,
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Speaker 3: New Year's Day, the Rose Bowl, I don't care if
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Speaker 3: you make it a semi final. I don't care what
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Speaker 3: you make it. New Year's Day, the Rose Bowl is
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Speaker 3: it's just special. I mean, you know, you've been around
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Speaker 3: this game a long time. That's one that I just
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Speaker 3: never want to see messed with. The Other one is
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Speaker 3: I really don't like Friday nights being messed with. I
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Speaker 3: think that should be left to high school football only.
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Speaker 3: I think that's so special, like so even like, and
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Speaker 3: I get it college games will be on a Friday,
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Speaker 3: But that's one where I'm always like, gosh, man, it's
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Speaker 3: there's something I want with that game left alone there.
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Speaker 3: I'm always the one that like trying to think if
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Speaker 3: there's any others, Oh, I think Green Bay and Chicago,
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Speaker 3: the Bears and the Packers, just with their originality and
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Speaker 3: their history, uh that they should obviously always be in
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Speaker 3: the same division, but they should always have open roof
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Speaker 3: at any football game that they're in that's a home game.
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Speaker 2: Oh wow.
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Speaker 3: So if the Bears put together a new stadium, I'm
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Speaker 3: cool if you want the roof, but when the Bears play,
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Speaker 3: the roof has to be open. Concerts, whatever, Final Four,
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Speaker 3: do whatever you want with it. But when the Bears
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Speaker 3: are at home, if they're indoors, there's something about that
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Speaker 3: that's just not going to sit right with me. Senday
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Speaker 3: with the Packers. I even like the Packers, but I
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Speaker 3: love Lambeoufield. I love the history. There's something about those
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Speaker 3: two and the beautiful history of the game that I
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Speaker 3: don't want them on turf and I don't want them
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Speaker 3: with a closed roof and a dome, And I just
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Speaker 3: don't want to to ever feel like arena football when
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Speaker 3: those two teams get together.
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Speaker 1: Is there any I know your schedule is prohibitive in
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Speaker 1: a lot of this, Is there any interest for Tony
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Speaker 1: Parks in World Cup soccer coming in a month?
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Speaker 3: You know, I'll always keep an eye on it. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I always keep an eye on it, especially since they
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Speaker 3: have games during the day. I've watched a lot of
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Speaker 3: EuroCup in the past, and then you know, yeah with
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Speaker 3: the World Cup. Sure, absolutely it's great. Just keep an
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Speaker 3: eye on, have it on in the background. I used
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Speaker 3: to really get into it in previous decades and stuff
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Speaker 3: and watch the Women's World Cup as well, So yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'll have my eyes on it.
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Speaker 2: Tony.
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Speaker 1: Have a great call tonight, and until the next time
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Speaker 1: we talk to you. Always appreciate your thoughts, my friend, hey.
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Speaker 3: Man, love it. Always enjoy coming on. Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: We'll see it.
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Speaker 1: Tony Parks is your voice for the Salt Lake Bees
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Speaker 1: on the road in Oklahoma City tonight