Latest / Karl and Crew / Healthy Biblcal Parenting Q&A with Arlene Pellicane
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- 0:28S1: Delivering the truth daily.
- 0:30S4: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up
- 0:33S4: with achievement in good works. Well, God wasn't impressed by that.
- 0:36S4: Even if other people were.
- 0:38S2: The gospel changes everything.
- 0:41S5: Freedom in Christ. Man, it's like that backpack of cement
- 0:44S5: just falling to the ground.
- 0:46S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
- 0:50S1: and crew. We're going to go back to ask the
- 0:54S1: experts here in a moment, but we wanted to get
- 0:56S1: Doctor Herman Shariat jumping in here really quick with an
- 0:59S1: update on Iran Hormuz. Thank you for being with us today. Uh,
- 1:04S1: what is going on from your vantage point, what has
- 1:08S1: transpired and what are we looking for to come here,
- 1:11S1: my brother?
- 1:12S6: Well, thank you, Carl, much is happening in Iran. Some
- 1:16S6: of it, you know, and it's visible. Some of it
- 1:18S6: is invisible because it's a in a spiritual domain. So
- 1:22S6: history is in the making. And that will not just
- 1:25S6: impact Iran, but the whole Middle East and even maybe
- 1:28S6: the world. Um, not just political history, but spiritual and
- 1:32S6: biblical history. Uh, it's all happening. Like, for example, Jeremiah 49,
- 1:39S6: verses 34 and on, if you read it, several of
- 1:41S6: those verses has been, uh, have been being fulfilled the
- 1:46S6: last few days. Even so, the people of Iran and
- 1:50S6: suddenly got hope. As you know, there was a massacre
- 1:54S6: in January and, uh, 40,000 of the young people were
- 1:58S6: killed on the streets and people were hopeless. They went
- 2:00S6: to their homes. They knew if they come on streets,
- 2:03S6: the government of Iran will kill. And they said, we're
- 2:06S6: going to kill 100,000. And if we have to, we're
- 2:09S6: going to kill 1 million Iranians if we have to
- 2:13S6: do it and stay in power. So people of Iran
- 2:16S6: were desperate, hopeless, and they were crying out, hey, Uncle Trump,
- 2:21S6: they like Trump, uncle Trump, come and help us. Come
- 2:24S6: and help us. Do not negotiate. Do not negotiate. These
- 2:28S6: people are deceivers. Even if they sign an agreement, they're
- 2:31S6: not going to follow. They're. Yeah, they have deception. They're liars.
- 2:36S6: So every time Trump said, I'm we are negotiating. People
- 2:40S6: of Iran would get depressed and they would say, no, no.
- 2:44S6: So but when this happened on Saturday, the attack on Iran,
- 2:48S6: the death of Supreme leader, just guess what happened. People
- 2:52S6: of Iran 2 a.m. when they heard the news they want.
- 2:56S6: They were on the streets singing and dancing. Suddenly, after
- 3:00S6: months of mourning and hopelessness, they got hope. So right
- 3:04S6: now is, uh, you know, the war is going on. Uh,
- 3:09S6: Trump has asked them to stay home. Ask the people.
- 3:13S6: Not yet. Stay home. And we are going to continue
- 3:16S6: to destroy the infrastructure. And, uh, and just the government
- 3:21S6: structures and Revolutionary Guard centers and the police centers. We
- 3:26S6: are not done yet. So, yeah, people of Iran are waiting.
- 3:29S1: Yeah.
- 3:30S4: Doctor Shariat, our guest right now, founder and president of
- 3:33S4: Iran Alive Ministries. Iran Lives Channel is the most watched
- 3:37S4: Christian channel in Iran with over 7 million daily viewers. Uh,
- 3:40S4: what are you hearing as far as the the believers
- 3:43S4: in that country about the spiritual temperature?
- 3:47S6: Well, we have been training those leaders through our satellite
- 3:51S6: broadcast for 25 years, and I'm so proud of him.
- 3:54S6: They have a heart for God and they they listen.
- 3:57S6: They want to do something. So even during the protests,
- 4:00S6: they were out there. They were helping people. Um, by
- 4:03S6: the way, um, probably a few hundred of Christians were killed, uh,
- 4:07S6: in January during the massacre. Some of them were are members, uh,
- 4:12S6: and that we knew and we are helping, uh, right now.
- 4:15S6: It's the connection, the direct connection with the people inside Iran,
- 4:20S6: Christian or non-Christian, is very sporadic because the government has
- 4:23S6: turned off, uh, every communication channel between outside world and
- 4:27S6: inside world. But because of Starlink, we hear, uh, now
- 4:32S6: and then things from Iran, from our leaders. But I
- 4:36S6: want to assure you, the Christians in Iran are so brave.
- 4:39S6: They're not they're not afraid that I ask them, what
- 4:42S6: do you want us to pray? They say, we want
- 4:45S6: to hear God, so we will do what he wants
- 4:47S6: us to do at this time. We don't want to
- 4:49S6: be confused. I don't want to be, uh, work out
- 4:52S6: of fear. We need God's wisdom, number two. We need
- 4:56S6: his courage that we will do what he asks us
- 5:00S6: to do and not be afraid. The church in Iran
- 5:04S6: is there, strong is surviving and even the hard times.
- 5:07S6: Just like now. The darkest it gets, the brighter the
- 5:12S6: Church of God.
- 5:13S1: Amen.
- 5:13S6: Will shine in Iran. That's where they are.
- 5:16S1: Amen. Doctor, I thank you for popping in here. We're
- 5:19S1: going to have you in over these next few weeks.
- 5:22S1: A lot is going to be transpiring there, and I
- 5:24S1: want to thank you for being here. Those of you
- 5:26S1: in the boom crew want to know more about this
- 5:28S1: incredible ministry. Been training for 25 years via satellite. Uh,
- 5:33S1: the estimates are that this is the fastest growing what
- 5:36S1: used to be underground church. It's going to soon be
- 5:38S1: coming above ground. But the the efforts there are beautiful.
- 5:42S1: And we'd love to have you get there. Text the
- 5:44S1: word alive to our number here. Just the word alive
- 5:47S1: to 800 555 7898. One word alive to 800 555 7898.
- 5:56S1: Wanted to get her Mose in here for sure. Right, Allie?
- 5:59S4: Absolutely. That's a live to 800 555 7898.
- 6:04S1: Okay, Arlene Pelican is our next expert on deck. Do
- 6:09S1: we love Arlene?
- 6:10S4: Yes we do.
- 6:12S1: Yes we do. Hang on. We're going to open up
- 6:15S1: phone lines for questions and comments. Buckle up and get
- 6:19S1: that swig of water.
- 6:22S7: Get your info from a source you can trust. It's
- 6:25S7: Ask the Experts week with Carl and crew.
- 6:27S1: Yeah, that's on me, man. I didn't hold the cup
- 6:30S1: and string up to my ear.
- 6:33S2: You gotta remember to do that.
- 6:34S1: The old cup and string trick. I think we got
- 6:37S1: her with us right now. Arlene, how are you today?
- 6:40S8: I have my cup and string.
- 6:41S1: Good. Okay, now we're connected. Hey, Arlene. Uh, top three
- 6:46S1: issues that parents are facing today. Let's go. What do
- 6:49S1: you say?
- 6:50S8: Top three issues one. Parent. You are the parent. You
- 6:55S8: don't have to consult your child. You are the boss.
- 6:58S8: You are the leader. Two technology. What do we do
- 7:02S8: with all these screens? Because we are fighting about them
- 7:04S8: all the time. Three is my child capable of skills
- 7:10S8: or does my child just say to the parent, you
- 7:12S8: do that for me? I don't feel like doing that.
- 7:15S8: That's what I kind of see the top there. And
- 7:16S8: of course layered into that is how is this, our
- 7:19S8: dear children? How is this dear child of mine going
- 7:21S8: to love God? No, God, serve God, obey God if
- 7:25S8: they don't get these three things in place.
- 7:27S4: Arlene, our guest this morning, speaker, author, host of the
- 7:30S4: Happy Home Podcast. She's written several books, including Growing Up
- 7:34S4: Social with Gary Chapman, calm, cool and Connected Parents, Rising
- 7:38S4: Screen kids. Let's start with the last one. The cry
- 7:42S4: of every parent's heart is that their children would know
- 7:46S4: and love and serve the Lord. What are some things,
- 7:50S4: maybe some approaches or tactics that generations past have done
- 7:56S4: that we need to reconsider? I guess that's the best
- 8:00S4: way of putting it.
- 8:01S8: Yeah, I see the generation pass kind of like a
- 8:03S8: little House on the Prairie, is what I'm thinking. And
- 8:05S8: for you younger listeners, please go look that up. It's
- 8:07S8: really good.
- 8:08S4: Best show.
- 8:09S8: Right. This is a family around a dinner table that
- 8:13S8: are always together. They work together, they do chores together.
- 8:16S8: They have fun together, possibly plays the fiddle at night.
- 8:19S8: You know, they support each other. They go through challenges together.
- 8:22S8: When there's a problem, they go usually to par. They
- 8:25S8: talk to Paul about it. And just this model of
- 8:29S8: everyday discipleship of we go to church regularly. It's not
- 8:33S8: a question like, oh, is there a game? Is the
- 8:35S8: weather good? Are we tired. You know, so it's it's
- 8:38S8: regular rhythms of church, Bible reading, prayer, caring, really living
- 8:44S8: out the gospel. I think that is the the best
- 8:46S8: thing parents can do is is is there enough evidence
- 8:50S8: just by watching your family? Oh, this is a Christian family.
- 8:53S8: This is a family who follows Jesus because like James says,
- 8:57S8: you know, show me faith without works is dead. That
- 9:00S8: that this should have a reflection in our lives. I
- 9:02S8: think that's the best thing parents can do.
- 9:04S1: Taking your questions right now, give us a call for
- 9:07S1: Arlene Pellekaan. She's going to be with us for this hour.
- 9:09S1: It's a full week of Ask the Experts. Arlene Pellekaan
- 9:13S1: is tremendous on this stuff, guys. It's hard truth sometimes,
- 9:16S1: but it's dynamite. 805 55, 7898 800 555 7898. Text
- 9:25S1: or call in your questions right now. 800 555 7898 Arlene,
- 9:32S1: you mentioned number one at the top three is you're
- 9:34S1: in charge, parents. You know, I think a lot of
- 9:37S1: parents have, uh, I don't know how we get sucked
- 9:41S1: into this. they almost think that grace and being the
- 9:46S1: leader of your kids can't coexist. It's the converse, isn't it, Arlene?
- 9:51S1: Grace is the ability to shepherd our children. Right?
- 9:55S8: Yeah. Love corrects. You know that. You look through the Scripture.
- 9:59S8: Look through Proverbs. What is this, my son? Be careful
- 10:01S8: to walk in my ways. Right there is this component
- 10:05S8: of it that I'm here to guide you. And we've
- 10:08S8: been kind of sold very masterfully. Let your child guide themselves,
- 10:13S8: let them become whoever they're well, they're three, you know
- 10:16S8: what I mean? So. So it is this idea that
- 10:19S8: they're both that you have. This is the challenge, child
- 10:23S8: of mine I'm going to give you. But here's also
- 10:25S8: the grace and the support. It's both. Same thing with God.
- 10:28S8: God is fully love, but he is also fully, just
- 10:32S8: fully worthy of fear and reverence and awe. Same thing.
- 10:36S4: Arlene, we're taking your questions on parenting screens, Kids. All
- 10:41S4: Things Happy Home 800 555 7898 800 555 7898. This
- 10:50S4: question came in by text message 19 and 20 year
- 10:53S4: old children. How do you know when to step in
- 10:56S4: and when to let them fall on their face, especially
- 10:59S4: in regard to choosing a spouse, which could have a
- 11:02S4: lifetime of consequences? This is a good one, Arlene. That
- 11:05S4: letting go process of a teen young adult children?
- 11:10S8: Yes. And just look at their ages. They're 19 and 20.
- 11:14S8: So at this point it is their choice. You know,
- 11:17S8: my my husband's father, when my when my husband James
- 11:20S8: was thinking about proposing and asking his dad for his advice,
- 11:23S8: his dad was like, I'm not the one who has
- 11:25S8: to wake up next to her every day. So, so
- 11:30S8: a lot of this is is okay. I need to
- 11:33S8: step out. You are 19, you are 20. This will
- 11:36S8: be your choice. This will be what you live with. however. Obviously,
- 11:40S8: if you as a parent know this is not the
- 11:43S8: right choice. You you you. It's not just that you
- 11:46S8: have little personality differences, you know this is not the
- 11:48S8: right choice. Man, you are fasting. You are praying. You
- 11:51S8: are asking God to open the eyes of your child.
- 11:54S8: You're asking God to please shift my child's heart, make
- 11:57S8: something happen, help my child not to make a decision
- 12:00S8: that's going to adversely affect them. You know, that kind
- 12:03S8: of thing. So yes, war for your child. Battle for
- 12:06S8: your child. But but know that it is your child's
- 12:08S8: decision and not yours.
- 12:10S1: Get a question from someone here. They say they're going
- 12:13S1: to be coming to Moody in the fall, majoring in communications.
- 12:17S1: Woo hoo! Uh, what are what are some issues that
- 12:20S1: need to be addressed amongst youth? I'm assuming they're going
- 12:23S1: to go that direction. I'm not on socials much, so
- 12:26S1: I don't know. Mine was identity when I was growing up.
- 12:30S1: What do you say, Arlene?
- 12:31S8: Yeah. Identity is always, you know, as you're coming into
- 12:35S8: as you're a young person, you're asking, who am I?
- 12:39S8: Who do I belong to? Like, where do I fit
- 12:41S8: in and what is my purpose? And so, as you,
- 12:44S8: dear student, get ready to change the world. You know,
- 12:47S8: asking those questions. How can I help them understand their identity,
- 12:51S8: who they are, their purpose in God? How can I
- 12:54S8: help that? How can I foster that? And I think
- 12:56S8: a lot of people, you know, Jonathan Hite in The
- 12:59S8: Anxious Generation, there's a chart in his book that he'll
- 13:01S8: talk about that made him so sad. And it was
- 13:04S8: seniors in high school who were saying, like, I feel meaningless.
- 13:08S8: Like I kind of don't have hope for the future.
- 13:09S8: And it used to be a very small amount that
- 13:12S8: would say that because you have, you know, the whole
- 13:14S8: life in front of you. But now about 20% of
- 13:19S8: boys and girls say that, and it made him so sad.
- 13:21S8: And I think for you, dear caller, to speak into that,
- 13:26S8: this is the meaning and the purpose God has for
- 13:28S8: your life by showing in your own life how you
- 13:31S8: are finding meaning and purpose. God bless you. It's going
- 13:33S8: to be great.
- 13:34S4: Heartfelt question that came in by text message that says,
- 13:37S4: we have three children between the ages of eight and 12.
- 13:40S4: We need a complete parenting reboot. For many years we
- 13:43S4: have not disciplined and led correctly. We're seeing a lot
- 13:46S4: of discipline issues and behavior issues at school. How do
- 13:49S4: we fix the problem we created?
- 13:51S1: Wow.
- 13:52S8: Okay.
- 13:53S1: Hold on. Time out. Arlene. We need to cheer for
- 13:56S1: someone who's saying, how do we fix the problem we created?
- 14:00S1: That's huge, isn't it?
- 14:02S8: It is. I was just going to say you are
- 14:03S8: not alone. Like most people, if they were honest, would
- 14:07S8: say like. Oh, yeah. Hear, hear on that. So first
- 14:10S8: of all, acknowledging it is huge and then realizing if
- 14:14S8: I keep going the same way, it's just going to
- 14:16S8: get worse. So good. And then, you know, there's a C.S.
- 14:19S8: Lewis quote that I'm going to butcher it, but it's
- 14:21S8: basically that progress is going the direction you want to go.
- 14:26S8: So sometimes progress is going backwards and that is the
- 14:29S8: fastest way home. So for you just start with those
- 14:33S8: going backwards in small ways that you can manage maybe
- 14:38S8: 1 to 2 things at a time, because if you
- 14:40S8: try to fix everything, you're going to get so frustrated
- 14:43S8: and it's going to go. So think of two pain
- 14:45S8: points in your life and work on those first. I'm
- 14:50S8: going to give you one so your children want attention
- 14:53S8: at all of those ages. My husband was just talking
- 14:55S8: about this yesterday. They want attention and they're getting it
- 14:58S8: from complaining, from being negative, from whining, from throwing a fit.
- 15:02S8: And you're giving them that attention, most likely. Instead say,
- 15:06S8: oh my goodness, when you act in those ways, you're
- 15:09S8: not going to get my attention. I'm actually going to
- 15:11S8: ignore you, and I'm going to make whatever you're doing counterproductive.
- 15:15S8: So if you're whining because you don't want to go
- 15:18S8: to school, I'm not going to give a speech. I'm
- 15:20S8: just going to say no. We go to school, get
- 15:22S8: in the car and go to school. And if they
- 15:24S8: there's a consequence, oh, look, there's no dinner on the
- 15:26S8: table because you were whining today. Whatever it is, have
- 15:30S8: a consequence. So let them know I'm not going to
- 15:32S8: pay attention to that anymore. And you're not going to
- 15:34S8: get your way anymore. And instead give the attention when
- 15:37S8: they're doing something right.
- 15:38S1: Is there any value in sitting down with these kids,
- 15:41S1: not together, but individually, looking them in the eye and go,
- 15:44S1: you know what? We have messed up and today is
- 15:47S1: a new day. Is there value in that?
- 15:49S9: I love that.
- 15:49S8: There is 100% value in that. And and even doing
- 15:53S8: something that is of their love language. Love language. Spending
- 15:56S8: time with them. You know, you're working on a bicycle
- 15:58S8: together and then you're having this conversation. You're going out
- 16:01S8: to ice cream, you bought them a gift, whatever it
- 16:03S8: is to repair and say, you know what, we've dropped
- 16:06S8: the ball. We're going to try to get better at this.
- 16:08S8: Let's work as a team.
- 16:10S4: Arlene Pelican, our guest this morning taking your questions. 800
- 16:14S4: 555 7898 800 555 7898. Coming up, we'll tackle this one. Oh, boy.
- 16:22S4: This one came in earlier this week, but I think
- 16:24S4: Arlene is the one to tackle it. We have while
- 16:27S4: summarize it's a one year old who's already wants Mom
- 16:30S4: and Dad's phone. They try to keep her off of
- 16:33S4: those screens. But the minute she is able to wrangle
- 16:38S4: it free and gets it taken away, it becomes a problem. Yes,
- 16:43S4: one years old. But this is one of you mentioned
- 16:46S4: the biggest parent challenging. And it starts early. Kids and screens.
- 16:51S4: Let's tackle that coming up.
- 16:52S1: Okay. Tackle that one. And your questions call in or
- 16:56S1: text in right now 800 555 7898 800 555 7898.
- 17:05S7: You've got questions. They've got answers. It's Ask the Experts
- 17:09S7: week with Carl and crew.
- 17:11S1: It is Ask the Experts week. And boy, have we
- 17:15S1: got a great one Arlene Pelican. These are tough topics,
- 17:17S1: are they not Ali.
- 17:18S4: They are. Parenting questions are always going to hit hard.
- 17:22S4: 800 555 7898 Arlene, I know you talk a lot
- 17:27S4: about screen kids, and there's a lot of ways that
- 17:29S4: we could go with this. But let's speak to the
- 17:31S4: parent who texted in about a one year old who
- 17:34S4: already gravitates toward Mom and Dad's phone, and though they've
- 17:37S4: tried to limit screens, she gets really upset when it's
- 17:41S4: taken away.
- 17:43S8: I'm so glad that you called, and I'm so glad
- 17:45S8: that you gave this question. So just look at this,
- 17:49S8: you know what? Is your baby acting like an addict, right?
- 17:52S8: Like I need that. Like, once I have it, give
- 17:54S8: it to me. Right. So think of honestly what a
- 17:58S8: pediatrician would say that from 0 to 5, that brain
- 18:01S8: of your baby is developing and they're building pathways. They're
- 18:05S8: building a cathedral in there. And if they are just
- 18:09S8: on a phone or a tablet, there's nothing else that's
- 18:11S8: going to be better than that. And that's what they're
- 18:13S8: going to want all the time. But their brain, instead
- 18:15S8: of building a cathedral, they're going to have a little shack,
- 18:17S8: and all it's going to have is a little iPad
- 18:18S8: in it. And instead they really need to be running.
- 18:21S8: You know, they need to be moving their body, learning language,
- 18:25S8: being with you, having, you know, all those things. So,
- 18:28S8: my friend, just take that phone away all together. Go
- 18:32S8: cold turkey on your one year old baby. And it's
- 18:36S8: really up to us. And it's important enough to do it.
- 18:39S8: Take that away. It's going to be awful at first,
- 18:42S8: but when your baby realizes, oh, I don't get that anymore.
- 18:45S8: Guess what? Your life is going to become infinitely better
- 18:49S8: as your baby is like, oh, I would like to
- 18:51S8: talk to my mom now. I would like to play
- 18:53S8: with blocks. I would like to eat this little piece
- 18:56S8: of food. You know, it's going to get so much better.
- 18:58S8: So take it away. Do not let your one year
- 19:01S8: old use the phone anymore.
- 19:03S1: You know, I've talked to some parents recently that they
- 19:06S1: feel like I screwed up and they got a three,
- 19:09S1: 4 or 5 year old six year old maybe on screens.
- 19:11S1: And that's what they do to keep them quiet at
- 19:13S1: a dinner table or when friends are over or whatever. Uh,
- 19:19S1: how do you bear with it when your kids suffering withdrawals?
- 19:22S1: I guess it just suck it up, buttercup. It's going
- 19:24S1: to be a little bit here.
- 19:26S8: Yeah, I will give you the extreme example. So if
- 19:29S8: you have a three, four, five, it's actually not extreme.
- 19:31S8: You're old. That's on screens. What's this going to mean
- 19:34S8: at ten, 11, 12, 13. Then what's that going to
- 19:37S8: mean at 30, 40, 50. So I know one with
- 19:40S8: a middle schooler, like a sixth grader and who was
- 19:43S8: so addicted to video games and he literally took time
- 19:46S8: off work first two weeks, then three weeks, it turned
- 19:49S8: into four weeks where he would take time off work
- 19:52S8: to be with his son from the time from after
- 19:55S8: school till he fell asleep, to block him from video games,
- 19:59S8: physically block him from video games. And it was like
- 20:03S8: seeing someone in detox. Like he was freaking out. He
- 20:05S8: was catatonic. He's just going absolutely ballistic. But after one
- 20:09S8: month of that, now they have their son back, totally
- 20:13S8: back now into swimming and sports and drawing and with
- 20:17S8: people again. Wow. So, so there is a fight. There
- 20:20S8: is something in the parent that says I must deal
- 20:22S8: with this now because it's just going to get worse later,
- 20:26S8: so be ready for that storm. But again, watch the trials.
- 20:30S8: You know, watch the trials against all these things right now.
- 20:33S8: It's all coming out that it they know big tech
- 20:36S8: knows this will addict your children. And as parents we
- 20:40S8: need to step in.
- 20:42S4: Arlene Pelican, our guest. Let's go to the phones. We've
- 20:45S4: got Steve who's calling in from Cleveland, Ohio. What's your
- 20:48S4: question for Arlene?
- 20:51S10: Well, I just make it as short as I can.
- 20:53S10: Adult children? Yeah. My wife and I are in our 70s. Um,
- 20:59S10: some of the stuff coming out of, you know, we
- 21:01S10: have gone through many years ago before we were saved.
- 21:06S10: You know, I went through the whole 12 step program,
- 21:08S10: the whole nine yards. Um, yeah. Just being brought up
- 21:12S10: with old guilt stuff. I'm like, hey, you know what?
- 21:15S10: I don't need you to remind me what I was.
- 21:17S10: I was a ringleader in my own circus. I know,
- 21:20S10: you know. So you know dealing with that any any
- 21:25S10: any suggestions because I told my wife and I, you
- 21:28S10: know what? There's you and me. We did what we
- 21:31S10: could apologize, made amends where we could. Um, I'm not
- 21:35S10: going to sit here and get beat to death the
- 21:38S10: rest of my life over this.
- 21:39S2: Yeah.
- 21:40S8: No. And that's true, and that's true. And isn't it funny?
- 21:42S8: It could go either way of one side saying, like,
- 21:45S8: you didn't give me what I needed and, and and
- 21:49S8: beating them up about that. So I think you are
- 21:52S8: right in your attitude of if you've already said, hey,
- 21:56S8: I wasn't the, you know, now I would show up
- 21:59S8: in a different way, but that's what I knew to
- 22:01S8: do then. That was kind of the best I could
- 22:04S8: do then. And I'm really sorry if I wasn't there
- 22:06S8: for you the way you wanted. But I'm here for
- 22:08S8: you now, so. And then if they cannot accept that
- 22:11S8: as adult children, you know what? What is there to do?
- 22:13S8: You cannot change their hearts. But I do think, you know,
- 22:17S8: I think of of my friend Bill Farrell, who is
- 22:20S8: a wonderful speaker and author, had a very tough relationship
- 22:23S8: all the way through with his parents. But he said
- 22:25S8: his relationship with his father in his 80s. So when
- 22:28S8: his father was in his 80s, that that was the
- 22:31S8: best time of their lives. So I would just give
- 22:33S8: that encouragement to you that, who knows, maybe the best
- 22:36S8: days are around the corner and praying and hoping for
- 22:40S8: restoration and kind of good steps forward with your adult kids.
- 22:44S8: But if that does not happen, that you know you
- 22:46S8: have done the best that you could to be faithful
- 22:49S8: to them. And I'm so sorry that it is is
- 22:51S8: not better at this time.
- 22:53S1: Steve, thank you for that call. That's courageous man. I'd
- 22:56S1: love to hear 70 year old men who say, all right,
- 22:58S1: what can I do? Uh, Arlene, along that line in pastoring,
- 23:04S1: I see that a lot of parents, um, some over, apologize,
- 23:09S1: and it's time to stop asking for forgiveness over and
- 23:13S1: over and beating yourself up. But some lack clarity around it.
- 23:17S1: How important is clarity around specifics? I want to ask
- 23:21S1: for forgiveness for? Fill in the blank. Specificity versus I
- 23:27S1: wasn't a great parent. I'm sorry. I'm new now. How
- 23:31S1: important is it for even an adult kid to hear
- 23:34S1: specifics in an apology?
- 23:37S8: The specifics give weight to the apology and let the
- 23:42S8: listener like the one that's being apologized to understand, like, oh,
- 23:46S8: that person really does understand what they did. So there
- 23:49S8: is that that feeling of if they just say, oh,
- 23:52S8: I'm sorry, it doesn't it doesn't quite hit it because
- 23:54S8: you're wondering, like, what are you sorry for? You know,
- 23:56S8: like when my husband's like, I'm sorry. I'm like, do
- 23:58S8: you even understand what you're apologizing?
- 24:01S1: Honey, go back and go back and work on that again.
- 24:03S8: Yeah. Do you just want to not be in trouble? So.
- 24:06S8: So the more specific you can be, you know, and
- 24:09S8: obviously it doesn't mean you have to get out your
- 24:11S8: calendar on, you know, April 5th, 1988. I did this,
- 24:16S8: but those things that you know would have made a
- 24:20S8: big difference. I'm sorry that I, you know, left you
- 24:24S8: waiting on the corner and I didn't show up. I'm
- 24:27S8: really sorry about that. And if I could do it again,
- 24:29S8: I would have shown up, you know? So. So as
- 24:32S8: specific as you can be, that will help your child
- 24:36S8: forgive you. And that will help build that bridge.
- 24:39S4: Arlene Pelican, our guests, if you want more resources, we
- 24:42S4: mentioned a couple of books. She's also host of the
- 24:44S4: Happy Home podcast. Text happy to (800) 555-7898. Happy to 800
- 24:52S4: 555 7898. Text message question says I am a grandfather.
- 24:57S4: My daughter lives in the downstairs unit in a in
- 25:00S4: my two unit house. I can hear them screaming at
- 25:03S4: my granddaughters, ages six and two, whom I take to
- 25:05S4: church every Sunday. My daughter and her husband are not believers.
- 25:11S4: What do you say, Arlene?
- 25:12S8: This is a toughie because you have all the layers
- 25:15S8: of okay, if you were not my family, but let's
- 25:17S8: say you were my tenants, I would say, hey, I'm
- 25:20S8: trying to get some peace and quiet upstairs. Why are
- 25:23S8: you guys yelling so much? So there's that layer and
- 25:26S8: then there's and obviously, you know, he's being very kind
- 25:29S8: to extend to them that they can live there. That's
- 25:31S8: what I would assume. And then there's a layer of hey,
- 25:34S8: those are my grandchildren. And then there's the layer of
- 25:37S8: but your adult kids and I really can't tell you
- 25:39S8: what to do. So all of those things happening in
- 25:42S8: that two bedroom place. And so pray, pray about this,
- 25:47S8: listen to your adult children, maybe ask questions, hey, instead of,
- 25:51S8: you know, Jim Burns says that any unsolicited advice sounds
- 25:56S8: like criticism. So if grandpa comes and tells him you
- 25:59S8: shouldn't be doing that, you shouldn't be doing that. The
- 26:01S8: adult kids are probably going to get mad and just
- 26:03S8: keep doing it. So perhaps approach with curiosity. Hey, I
- 26:07S8: noticed that it's been really rough downstairs. I can hear
- 26:11S8: that for a long time. Is there anything I can
- 26:14S8: do to support you? Is there anything I can do
- 26:16S8: to help you? And they. And they may brush that off,
- 26:19S8: but keep in that posture of I notice this. I'm
- 26:24S8: here to help you. You know, maybe you are if
- 26:26S8: there's a podcast or something or a show or a book,
- 26:30S8: you know, you might just leave it at their door,
- 26:31S8: say like, hey, you know, not a big lecture, but,
- 26:34S8: you know, I think of Kevin Leman, have a new
- 26:35S8: kid by Friday, like here. You know, you might you
- 26:37S8: might want to look at this. So so try to
- 26:40S8: resource them gently ask questions. How can I support. But
- 26:44S8: then there really can be as as the person as
- 26:47S8: their host to say, hey, I live here, I love
- 26:51S8: you guys, but this is not working. All this yelling
- 26:55S8: is not good for me, for my health. It's not
- 26:58S8: good for you and we've got to come to a solution.
- 27:01S8: So come. So after that nice stuff. That nice stuff
- 27:04S8: doesn't work, then. Hey, you guys need. Your rent's going
- 27:07S8: to go up. Something's going to happen. Because this needs
- 27:09S8: to change.
- 27:11S1: Arlene Pelican, our guest. You got questions? 805, 55, 7898
- 27:16S1: 800 555 7898. Any unsolicited advice is felt as criticism.
- 27:23S1: That's a powerful statement, sister.
- 27:26S8: Yeah. Jim Burns I can't claim that one, but I
- 27:29S8: use it all the time.
- 27:30S1: Wow. Okay. Taking your calls or you can call text
- 27:35S1: in with your question. 800 555 7898 800 555 7898.
- 27:44S4: Coming up, I want to go to something that Arlene
- 27:46S4: had on a recent podcast. If you are parenting teenagers,
- 27:50S4: you may feel this one. What do you do when
- 27:52S4: you feel like your teen just doesn't like you very much?
- 27:56S4: 805 55 7898. If you have questions, we'll tackle that
- 27:59S4: one coming up.
- 28:01S7: When you don't know who's better to ask than an expert.
- 28:05S7: You're listening to Carl and crew.
- 28:07S4: It's the beautiful, difficult season of parenting. And that's true
- 28:10S4: no matter what season of life you are in as parents,
- 28:14S4: toddlers to teens to adult children.
- 28:16S3: Oh Nelly.
- 28:17S1: I just gotta say. Oh, Nelly.
- 28:20S4: You think it gets easier? It doesn't. Arleen. Let's talk
- 28:25S4: to parents of teenagers. I have two teenagers in my home,
- 28:28S4: and I sometimes joke with other parents, particularly having a
- 28:31S4: 16 year old daughter, that there are times when you're like,
- 28:34S4: I don't. I'm going to walk into the room, but
- 28:36S4: I don't know which kid is meeting me. Is it
- 28:39S4: the one?
- 28:40S3: Hilarious.
- 28:41S4: Is it the one who's, like, happy to see me
- 28:43S4: and wants to debrief on the day? Or is the
- 28:45S4: one that's like, mom, why are you looking at me?
- 28:48S4: Sometimes it's like, ooh, tread carefully there. What do you say, Arlene?
- 28:52S8: That is so funny. You have a daughter like. You know,
- 28:55S8: I also have a 16 year old daughter. No, this
- 28:57S8: is so funny. And realizing. Okay, my child is under
- 29:02S8: some serious construction, and I will be the parent and
- 29:06S8: not be offended if my child one day is like
- 29:09S8: besties and then one day is like glaring at me.
- 29:12S8: So I think there is that patience and that understanding of, oh,
- 29:15S8: it's going to be okay. So I think as a parent,
- 29:17S8: when your teen acts like, I don't want to be
- 29:19S8: with you, I think you kind of have to be
- 29:21S8: like my husband James, who is just like, I really
- 29:23S8: don't care. I'm going to sit next to you anyway.
- 29:26S8: So so there is that point that it's like, I
- 29:29S8: don't care what your if you look like you want
- 29:31S8: to be here or not. Your eyes are going to
- 29:33S8: roll like we are going to whatever go on this
- 29:35S8: family vacation. We are going to go out to eat.
- 29:37S8: We are going to go for a bike ride, I
- 29:39S8: don't care. Just get on your bike and let's go.
- 29:41S8: That's my husband. That's how he approaches things. And I
- 29:44S8: really think that approach with a teenager is good. Like,
- 29:47S8: I don't care that you want to sit there in
- 29:49S8: your room on your phone, I don't care. Like, we
- 29:52S8: are going to go visit grandma right now, and then
- 29:54S8: we're going to go out for ice cream, go get
- 29:55S8: in the car. And even if they're just oh so
- 29:57S8: mad about it, I still don't care. But the heart
- 30:00S8: of it, of course, is I want to spend time
- 30:02S8: with you. You know, I have a few more years
- 30:04S8: with you until you graduate out of my home, and
- 30:07S8: I want to be with you. And no matter how
- 30:09S8: much a kid kicks and screams and pretends they don't
- 30:11S8: want to be with you, they're going to look back
- 30:13S8: and think, okay, yeah, my mom and dad were there
- 30:16S8: instead of, yeah, I didn't see my mom or dad
- 30:18S8: for 2 or 3 years because I guess they couldn't
- 30:21S8: handle the eye rolls. So just stick with your teen,
- 30:24S8: even if they don't seem like they like you or
- 30:26S8: want to be with you. Of course. Don't overcrowd them.
- 30:29S8: Give them autonomy. Let them make their own decisions. Don't
- 30:32S8: make every mike. Don't make. Micromanage them, but spend time
- 30:36S8: with them.
- 30:37S1: Between birth order and just how they're all so different.
- 30:41S1: It's really funny to watch parents with one. And then
- 30:45S1: they get two and they're like, what in the cat
- 30:47S1: hair happened? Somebody changed all the rules on me mid-stream.
- 30:50S1: Speak to that quickly.
- 30:52S8: Oh, every child is different. And, you know, one child
- 30:55S8: might be ready for a phone at 15 and your
- 30:58S8: other child could be 22 or.
- 31:00S1: 40 5.
- 31:01S8: 545. So every kid is different. So you have maybe
- 31:05S8: similar values, you know, similar chores, similar those kinds of things.
- 31:09S8: But the way that you deal with them, the way
- 31:11S8: you spend time with them, their responsibilities, what you allow
- 31:13S8: them to do may be very different based on who
- 31:16S8: they are. And usually it's a reflection of one is
- 31:19S8: kind of not usually, but many times one is more
- 31:21S8: like the mom, one is more like the dad, and
- 31:24S8: so have those insights. Keep a light heart about it
- 31:27S8: and just be a student of your child.
- 31:30S1: Yeah, I hate to say it, but I was glad
- 31:31S1: for the mom kids. Okay, so here we go. Roberto
- 31:34S1: in Florida. You're driving, my man. What's your question for Arlene?
- 31:39S11: Good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I'm going
- 31:42S11: to try to be real quick. Um, well, it's on
- 31:46S11: behalf of my wife. My wife has two kids, you know,
- 31:49S11: they're both are grown. And, um, every now and then,
- 31:52S11: they always come. They said that they need some help.
- 31:54S11: And we've been helping for many, many years. But, you know, um,
- 32:00S11: just recently there was an incident that one of them
- 32:03S11: from another state called my wife and said that, you know,
- 32:06S11: the water heater breakdowns. So my wife is sending $500 to,
- 32:10S11: you know, just to parch the water heater. Um, and
- 32:14S11: then the, the the call later the same day, they
- 32:19S11: called my wife and they said that they need to
- 32:21S11: pay their mortgage, and it was $2,500. And I told
- 32:25S11: my wife, don't do it. You know, they're already grown.
- 32:29S11: It's time for them to take responsibility. But my wife
- 32:32S11: did it. So I was upset because I feel like
- 32:35S11: my wife wasn't respecting me. Yeah. What should I do?
- 32:39S8: Yeah. That's so good. I wonder, I hope your wife
- 32:42S8: is listening. Or listen to this later on. So I
- 32:47S8: think what your wife is doing, she thinks it is kindness. Right.
- 32:51S8: But it is not kindness because it is showing your
- 32:55S8: adult children. Hey, you're not capable of doing this yourself.
- 32:58S8: So anytime you hit a rough spot, I'll help you.
- 33:02S8: So honestly, your approach of saying, you know, no, you're
- 33:04S8: an adult. You need to figure out how to do
- 33:07S8: this yourself. That is actually the kinder thing to do,
- 33:11S8: so that your adult kids can figure out how to
- 33:14S8: stand on their own two feet because you and your
- 33:16S8: wife will not be there forever. And so for your
- 33:19S8: wife to understand that it's economic outpatient care, it's a
- 33:23S8: one of a book called it that, that you're giving
- 33:25S8: them economic outpatient care. And when they get this care,
- 33:28S8: they realize, I don't have to care for myself because
- 33:31S8: my mom will bail me out. Notice they call the mom.
- 33:33S8: They don't call you. Right. So so that's that. And
- 33:36S8: then in terms of the respect piece, yes. That you
- 33:39S8: feel disrespected. You went against what I said you didn't respect.
- 33:42S8: You didn't back up. So try to listen to her, honey.
- 33:46S8: Tell me all about why you want to give that
- 33:48S8: money and listen. Okay, I get that, but. But you
- 33:52S8: need to also respect that I have an opinion and
- 33:56S8: that I am the leader of our home. And when
- 33:58S8: you go against me, I feel very disrespected. So have
- 34:02S8: that conversation as well. But you did. You did the
- 34:05S8: right thing by by withholding so that they can figure
- 34:08S8: out how to how to do their mortgage.
- 34:10S1: Yeah. Because those Amazon packages are still on the front
- 34:13S1: porch and they're still going out to choke and pukes
- 34:15S1: for lunch. You know what I mean, Arlene. Still happening.
- 34:18S8: That's right.
- 34:20S1: Oh my goodness. Okay. Uh, boy, this is amazing content
- 34:24S1: here today. And some of you are wondering, hey, might
- 34:28S1: there be a clearinghouse where I can get everything that
- 34:31S1: Arlene has to say about these different topics and bada bing,
- 34:34S1: bada boom. Look at this.
- 34:36S4: So glad you asked. You can text happy to (800) 555-7898.
- 34:41S4: Arlene has written extensively books, but also she's got a podcast.
- 34:45S4: Other resources, some video courses. Uh, she's even done something
- 34:49S4: with screens where she sits down and talks to her
- 34:52S4: kids who did not get phones until I think most
- 34:55S4: of them are now late in high school, even into college.
- 34:57S4: So you'll get to hear about that as well. Text
- 35:00S4: happy to (800) 555-7898.
- 35:03S1: Arlene. We get this big enchilada next week called share
- 35:07S1: about 4 million bucks. And I wanted to because I
- 35:10S1: want our boom crew to hear hearts of our experts.
- 35:13S1: And this has been awesome. You know, it's it's part
- 35:17S1: of that training thing. But give us your best response
- 35:22S1: to why jump in to share. We're listener supported here.
- 35:26S1: I don't even know if you knew that we're listener supported,
- 35:28S1: but why? Why do that?
- 35:29S8: Even when I get in the car and I can
- 35:33S8: listen to the radio, right. And need like that, that
- 35:36S8: piece of encouragement. I can't tell you how many times
- 35:39S8: growing up as a young adult, as a young mom,
- 35:42S8: young wife, you know, all of those things. Let me
- 35:44S8: just turn on the radio and listen to what these
- 35:46S8: people have to say about my situation. And time and
- 35:49S8: time again, it would. I remember when I was struggling
- 35:52S8: with infertility. And I heard a message about Abraham and
- 35:56S8: I thought, okay. And Sarah. She waited, and God was faithful.
- 35:59S8: And it would just hit you exactly at the right
- 36:01S8: time when you need it. And when you give to
- 36:04S8: Moody Radio, you're allowing that lifeline to keep flowing. For
- 36:09S8: someone who just either accidentally flips on the radio and
- 36:13S8: is like, oh, who is this Jesus? I want to
- 36:16S8: hear more about this Jesus. To that intentional person who
- 36:19S8: wants to follow Christ, just doesn't know how to unpack that.
- 36:22S8: And they're listening to amazing people like Gary Chapman or
- 36:25S8: Janet Parshall. You guys, you know, Chris Fabry, and they're
- 36:29S8: hearing these things. It's so, so powerful. So I am
- 36:32S8: such a big fan of Moody Radio.
- 36:35S1: Thank you Arlene. That's a blessing for sure. Alright. Text happy.
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