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Show Rewind 9-3-26 · South Carolina's Morning News

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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news on 103.5 FM and
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  Speaker 1: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
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  Speaker 2: This is Kelly Nash, possibly the only person at iHeartMedia
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  Speaker 2: Columbia today that is comfortable. Good morning, Christopher Thompson. Do
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  Speaker 2: you need me to get you a.
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  Speaker 3: Block of ice? Kelly, you're very cold-blooded, aren't you?
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  Speaker 2: Apparently so. Part of the reason I left Connecticut and
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  Speaker 2: New York and that greater region was the bad government.
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  Speaker 2: But another reason is I cannot stand being cold. I
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  Speaker 2: like it when it's about 80 degrees. to 95. That's
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  Speaker 2: like my sweet spot. Even in the seventies, I'm usually
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  Speaker 2: a little chilly. And so behind the scenes here at iHeart,
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  Speaker 2: I walk around for years with a little like portable
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  Speaker 2: heater that I just set up next to me when
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting in any studios, because typically the, I would
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  Speaker 2: say the temperature is about 68 in these studios. Today
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  Speaker 2: I walk in and Christopher has got the doors open.
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  Speaker 2: He's like perspiring everywhere. They did something on the roof
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  Speaker 2: here with our air conditioning system. I'm going to guess
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  Speaker 2: it's about 80 degrees in here right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's awful. It is awful.
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  Speaker 2: Again, I'm the only one that's comfortable here.
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  Speaker 3: You're wearing a suit jacket.
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  Speaker 2: I will take off my jacket here in just a minute.
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  Speaker 2: I've been running around this morning getting ready for today's broadcast.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be doing some TV shoots later on today, which
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  Speaker 2: is why I've got the suit on. I didn't put
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  Speaker 2: the tie on yet. That will be coming later.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be taking off clothes in the meantime. Hey, hey,
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  Speaker 3: look at.
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  Speaker 2: That stripper music going for you.
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  Speaker 3: Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Um, so yes, uh, I'm off to a great start.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not so much for the other employees here. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I hope you guys are having a great start and
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  Speaker 2: we'd love to get your feedback on all the stories
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  Speaker 2: that we're talking about. I love it when you people engage, uh,
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  Speaker 2: with the talkback feature on the I heart radio app,
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  Speaker 2: just push that microphone and, uh, you get about 30
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  Speaker 2: seconds to comment on things. Uh, Christopher and I get
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  Speaker 2: a little bit longer than that. And so I'm, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to start with, um, just the blanket. what's the
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  Speaker 2: word I'm looking for? Bias towards, I'll say, normalcy. And
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  Speaker 2: that might be offensive to some, but there is a
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  Speaker 2: bias against traditional values. There's a bias against what we
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  Speaker 2: would call a nuclear family, all of those things. And
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  Speaker 2: we've seen that play out across the country. I hate
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  Speaker 2: the fact that it happens here in South Carolina. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm pointing to a This is an article. This is
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  Speaker 2: not an op-ed piece. This is an article in today's
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  Speaker 2: state newspaper headline. Can South Carolina businesses turn away customers
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  Speaker 2: for being gay? Here's what the law says, written by
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  Speaker 2: Damien Bertrand. Now, of course, you can't turn away people
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  Speaker 2: just because they're gay. If two gay people walk into your,
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  Speaker 2: first off, I shouldn't even know if you're gay. But
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  Speaker 2: if I do, I can't say, oh, oh, no, you're
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  Speaker 2: not going to get to rent my house. I don't
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  Speaker 2: allow gay people around. We already have federal laws in
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  Speaker 2: place for these types of things. But inside the story,
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  Speaker 2: Damien takes it a little bit further. Unlike other states,
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina does not have any statewide protections for gay individuals.
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  Speaker 2: They want us to create special laws to protect them. Again,
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  Speaker 2: there's no rights that you and I and straight people
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  Speaker 2: have and white people have that are not afforded to
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  Speaker 2: all people in this country. And he points, I'm assuming
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  Speaker 2: Damien's a guy, he points out that there is the
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  Speaker 2: 1964 Civil Rights Act, which prevents discrimination in the workplace,
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  Speaker 2: it prevents the Fair Housing Act, all these types of things.
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  Speaker 2: But then he goes in and he starts talking about
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  Speaker 2: how South Carolina legislators are trying to create anti-gay bills.
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  Speaker 2: And then the first one he brings up is SC
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  Speaker 2: Bill 4756, known as the Student Physical Privacy Act. I
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  Speaker 2: would describe that as protecting females in the restroom.
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  Speaker 3: From men, from boys.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: We, again, most of the things that we are concerned
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  Speaker 2: about are protecting the young females. It's not about protecting
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  Speaker 2: young males. If there's a female who identifies as a
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  Speaker 2: male and feels comfortable wanting to use the male restroom...
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  Speaker 2: I guess, have at it. I mean, obviously, the school
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  Speaker 2: would have the discretion or the school boards and those
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  Speaker 2: types of things. But I'm saying I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: a 16-year-old boy is not going to be intimidated if
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  Speaker 2: a girl comes in and says, I want to stand
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  Speaker 2: at the urinal. But a 16-year-old girl should be intimidated
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  Speaker 2: if a teenage boy walks in and says, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I just want to be here with all you gals.
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  Speaker 2: That's a completely different thing. You don't want to recognize that.
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  Speaker 2: But he says, the way he describes it here, it's
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  Speaker 2: known as the anti-trans bill that has been passed and
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  Speaker 2: signed into law. The bathroom bill established state regulations that
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  Speaker 2: exclusively designate multi-occupant bathrooms and changing rooms in public schools.
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  Speaker 2: This means that transgender individuals cannot use the bathroom they
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  Speaker 2: want to use. And then he goes on and says,
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  Speaker 2: we have a full list of the anti-LGBTQ bills here
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  Speaker 2: that are currently moving through the statehouse. When you position
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  Speaker 2: something as anti-something as opposed to pro-something, that's why I
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  Speaker 2: am not, the way I look at it, I am pro-life,
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  Speaker 2: not anti-choice. It is you, the quote-unquote pro-choice movement that
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  Speaker 2: is anti-birth. That's what you are.
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  Speaker 3: And this article goes on, and it wraps up with,
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  Speaker 3: it makes it sound as if there's a mass exodus
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  Speaker 3: of LGBTQ people leaving the South because they're so upset
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  Speaker 3: with our anti-gay laws.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently, the group really, so who is this group? Safe Home?
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard of them. But Safe Home has released
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  Speaker 2: a nationwide report card. Uh-oh, how did South Carolina do
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  Speaker 2: on our report card? What? We got an F.
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  Speaker 5: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 2: And we're ranked 46th in the country. There's people more
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  Speaker 2: anti-gay than us, I guess. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't bother. At least four states.
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  Speaker 2: At least four states. But again, I don't feel as if.
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  Speaker 2: We're not anti-anything. We're not... Well, we're anti-socialists. We are anti...
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  Speaker 2: Some of us in this audience, anti-Clemson. And there'll be
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  Speaker 2: some of you who are anti-gamecocks. But we are not anti... black, Latino, gay,
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  Speaker 2: anything like that, because you don't fully endorse it and
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  Speaker 2: support it and, you know, want to run shoulder to
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  Speaker 2: shoulder with it doesn't mean that you're anti that. It
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  Speaker 2: means you're going to let people live their lives. That's
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  Speaker 2: what freedom looks like. Freedom is people being free to
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  Speaker 2: move about the cabin. You get up and you do
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  Speaker 2: whatever you'd like to do as long as it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: impede on me. And that's the difference. But that's not
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  Speaker 2: the way the state newspaper wants to report it this morning.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Do you feel anti-gay
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  Speaker 2: here in South Carolina? Do you feel anti-gay in Charleston?
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel anti-gay here in Columbia, the Midlands, the Lowcountry?
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  Speaker 2: Let us know on the Talkback feature. It's 610.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: We are talking about the state newspaper this morning with an...
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  Speaker 2: Story talking about how we fail. South Carolina got an
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  Speaker 2: F when it comes to protecting gay people and LGBTQ people.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have any special laws on the books, and
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  Speaker 2: we're supposed to according to them.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and we do have a talk back, so let's
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  Speaker 2: go ahead. I am a gay woman that lives outside
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  Speaker 2: of Charleston, and I am not anti-gay, obviously, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't want men in my bathrooms, locker rooms, or playing
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  Speaker 2: and women's works. And a lot of gay people, male
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  Speaker 2: and female, feel the same way and wish for a
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  Speaker 2: divorce from the trans and queer community. You know what?
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  Speaker 2: First off, thank you for using the talkback feature. Perhaps
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  Speaker 2: you could give me a... I don't know what the
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  Speaker 2: definition of queer is. I'm completely confused as to... I
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  Speaker 2: remember that used to be a slur word that we
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  Speaker 2: would use in a derogatory form towards people that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: usually on our sports team that were not doing their
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  Speaker 2: job properly. That's how... It was a bad word in
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  Speaker 2: the 80s. It somehow now has become... I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what the difference is. You know, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer.
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  Speaker 2: And she's making the statement, we'd like a divorce from
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  Speaker 2: the trans and queer communities, apparently. But, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: point that I was making earlier, freedom. South Carolina is
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  Speaker 2: a freedom-loving state. And what I mean by that is
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  Speaker 2: when you talk about freedoms, what are freedoms? Do you
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  Speaker 2: have the philosophical freedom to just think and control your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts the way you want to control them and decide
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  Speaker 2: your moral decisions? Of course you do. Do you have
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  Speaker 2: freedom from the state, not just the state of South Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: but the state of the United States? That's that when
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  Speaker 2: they say the state, usually they're talking about a country,
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  Speaker 2: some sort of political overlords. Do you have the freedom
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  Speaker 2: from them putting things on us like slavery, uh, Hunger?
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  Speaker 2: Could they create hunger? Unfair control? Right now we do.
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  Speaker 2: It seems as if the socialist movement would like to
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  Speaker 2: change some of that. Do you have freedom of speech,
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  Speaker 2: freedom of religion, freedom of the press? All people do,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of your political affiliation, your background, your sexual preferences, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And do you have personal freedom? Do you have autonomy
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  Speaker 2: over your body? And I know that that's where the
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  Speaker 2: left loses their minds. And they say that the Republicans
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  Speaker 2: want control over a woman's body when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: reproductive rights. The argument is a very simple argument. The
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  Speaker 2: woman has a unique position, unlike males. We don't get
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  Speaker 2: to carry the babies. If it was something that we
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  Speaker 2: both shared, then I guess that would, then it would
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  Speaker 2: be the state or the, you know, there's a moral
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  Speaker 2: decision being made for you that after a certain amount
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  Speaker 2: of pregnancy, you cannot end that child's life. And that's
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  Speaker 2: in South Carolina, we call it the heartbeat law. When
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  Speaker 2: you can establish that there's a heartbeat, you can see
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  Speaker 2: that that thing's alive. It's not a clump of cells.
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  Speaker 2: It's a now It's documentable that that is a living thing.
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  Speaker 2: You don't get the option to end that living thing.
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  Speaker 2: You've now, so that thing, whatever you call that thing,
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  Speaker 2: a fetus, whatever, that has rights now. It has freedoms.
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  Speaker 2: It has the ability to just see what it can become.
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  Speaker 2: And you can't impose your will on that. And that's
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  Speaker 2: when we're talking about freedoms, like when a I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: I don't know of any anti-gay laws. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: of any benefit that I have as a straight person
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  Speaker 2: in South Carolina over gay people, meaning that I can
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  Speaker 2: do things that they can't do. And I appreciate that
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  Speaker 2: gay woman listening to us somewhere just outside of Charleston,
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  Speaker 2: as she described, and she apparently loves freedom.
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  Speaker 3: Very rational discussion on that. Yeah, I think there are
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  Speaker 3: a lot of– I think there is a conservative movement
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  Speaker 3: within this– I guess queer is like the umbrella term
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  Speaker 3: for everything within the LGBTQ community, I guess. That seems
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  Speaker 3: to be the way it's being used these days. But
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a conservative movement within that community that
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  Speaker 3: just says, wait a minute, that's not how far we
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  Speaker 3: wanted to go. We simply want to be respected for
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  Speaker 3: who we are, regardless of our sexuality. Nobody wants... women
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  Speaker 3: in men's restrooms and vice versa.
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  Speaker 2: You shouldn't say no one. Well, we have a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of politicians who want it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'm saying within that conservative movement.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And, and certainly they, as she pointed out, they,
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  Speaker 3: they're not interested in seeing male athletes compete in women's
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  Speaker 3: sports either.
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  Speaker 2: No, that it really ruins the sport because then it
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  Speaker 2: just becomes now I'm fear. Like when we had the
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  Speaker 2: Olympics and the, transgendered boxer was up there and we
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  Speaker 2: were like, God, now it's not becoming like something that
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  Speaker 2: you can even cheer for. It's just something that you're
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  Speaker 2: fearful of.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like that one woman, I think she was from Italy
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  Speaker 2: after she got her face crushed and she's just quit
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of the fight. And she said, I've
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  Speaker 2: never been hit like this, but yeah, because you're now
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  Speaker 2: you're fighting a man. It's just different. It's not that
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  Speaker 2: men are better. Men are born stronger. Well, they develop stronger.
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't say they're born stronger. If you took a,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a two-year-old versus a two-year-old, I guess it
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  Speaker 2: might be the same equivalent, but women, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: if we had like a maturity Olympics, The women would
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  Speaker 2: crush the men. Oh, sure. Absolutely crush the men by
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  Speaker 2: the time they're like 12. They're thinking like a 30-year-old man.
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  Speaker 2: At that point, their decision-making is so much better, usually,
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  Speaker 2: at least typically. I don't know if that's still the
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  Speaker 2: case today with the youngsters. But anyway, I appreciate the talk, Bex,
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  Speaker 2: if you have thoughts on that or other things. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, did you see the news yesterday? I saw
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  Speaker 2: that Hunter Biden may be trying to cover the entire
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  Speaker 2: LGBTQ spectrum himself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like it.
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  Speaker 2: He announced in a podcast he's 48.6% gay. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what that even means, but it certainly would imply
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  Speaker 2: he's been with men, and apparently he might be. He
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  Speaker 2: almost prefers men to women, but he's done. The only
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  Speaker 2: thing not in his spectrum currently is the tea. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: maybe we'll get that coming. That announcement forthcoming from Hunter Biden.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: It is 621.
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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, Columbia, South Carolina. I'm calling in reference to
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  Speaker 5: the lady that called from Charleston that said that she
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  Speaker 5: was gay. and they want a divorce, just like they're
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  Speaker 5: fighting for their rights to be included, fight for your
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  Speaker 5: rights to not be included.
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  Speaker 3: Just a thought.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think that that's exactly what you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: inside the LGBTQ community. And thank you for using the
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  Speaker 2: Talkback feature to encourage that. The The previous talkback that
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  Speaker 2: we had in reference to the state newspaper's article about
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  Speaker 2: how South Carolina has failed some sort of test to
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  Speaker 2: create laws to protect gay people. We had a talkback
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  Speaker 2: from Charleston where the woman described herself as gay and said,
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  Speaker 2: I want a divorce from the transgendered community because I
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  Speaker 2: don't want men in women's sports. I don't want men
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  Speaker 2: in my restrooms. I don't want that. It's kind of like,
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  Speaker 2: We're seeing some people in the LGBT or the LGB community,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, divorce themselves from the T. And she said
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  Speaker 2: the Q community. And again, I'm not completely clear on
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  Speaker 2: the Q community, but that's neither here nor there. The
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  Speaker 2: transgender community is who they're looking to divorce from them.
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  Speaker 2: And that movement was hijacked, right? When the gays and
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  Speaker 2: lesbians first began fighting for equal rights, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: them would point up to, what was it, Stonewall? I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to remember the name of the gay bar in
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  Speaker 2: New York City where the New York Police Department was
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  Speaker 2: constantly arresting people for violating gay laws that they had
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  Speaker 2: set up at the time in the 1950s and 60s.
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  Speaker 2: And then they had some riots that got launched and
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  Speaker 2: then the protests began. And then out of that came
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  Speaker 2: the gay pride parade movements and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: some would say it's been an overcorrection. There was a time,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in a lot of our lifetimes where, yes,
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  Speaker 2: gay people were oppressed because they were gay. I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: alive for the Jim Crow laws, but those would be
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  Speaker 2: laws designed to oppress people. That was, there was a,
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  Speaker 2: you had a different set of rules that applied to
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  Speaker 2: a certain group of people. And that was true of
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  Speaker 2: gay people. And then, you know, up until the 1960s
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  Speaker 2: and 70s, I guess. But since then, we have been
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  Speaker 2: pretty equally dispersing of the freedom. You know, if I
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  Speaker 2: can't speed, you can't speed. If I can go into
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  Speaker 2: this building, you can go into this building. Meaning, you know,
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  Speaker 2: unless it's a private country club or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: That should be the goal for everybody, Christopher. Sure, no
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  Speaker 3: doubt about it. Yeah, I mean, and you point out
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  Speaker 3: to this community being hijacked, it's one liberal faction that
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  Speaker 3: has turned it on its ear to, By demanding things
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  Speaker 3: that most gays and lesbians have no desire to see.
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  Speaker 2: And I've often made the reference to David Dukes. David
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  Speaker 2: Dukes attempted to hijack the Republican Party back in like
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  Speaker 2: the late. 80s, early 90s, if I remember right. He
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  Speaker 2: was the head of the Klan or something out of Louisiana,
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  Speaker 2: and he wanted to run as a Republican. And the
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  Speaker 2: Republican Party said, no, you're not welcome here. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why I'm saying for the Democrats, you've got to tell
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  Speaker 2: the trans community, you are not welcome here to hijack
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. And tell the socialists, you're not welcome here.
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  Speaker 2: I know you want to be a big tent party,
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  Speaker 2: but you cannot allow them to just hijack that party
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  Speaker 2: and turn it into this Circus. It's a circus, but
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  Speaker 2: it's also trying to oppress other Americans. When you force
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  Speaker 2: a teenage girl to compete against a teenage boy, you
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  Speaker 2: have done something shameful. When you allow teenage boys or
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  Speaker 2: just men in general to go into the women's restrooms,
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  Speaker 2: that is shameful. And they need protections from the government,
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  Speaker 2: which we all thought we had, but now everything's changing
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  Speaker 2: so quickly. And I'm running late at 631.
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  Speaker 6: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, 636, we got a stunning little piece of footage yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe it was the day previous, on CNN, where
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  Speaker 2: you have, what's her name, Abby, it's not Hoffman, that
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  Speaker 2: was the bank robber, wasn't it? Who's Abby? Abby, whatever
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: her name is, the host on CNN. And then she's
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  Speaker 2: got Jemele Hill, the former ESPN journalist, and they're creating
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  Speaker 2: the narrative that capitalism is.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: A form of white supremacy. Now, also on the panel
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: is a guy named Camille Foster. Camille Foster rose to
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: prominence about 20 years ago when he launched a telecommunications
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: company when he was like 24 years old or something.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: And he became a multimillionaire. And if you're familiar with
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like Fox Business, you'll see Camille on that show from
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: time to time. Here he is explaining why capitalism couldn't
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: possibly It's impossible for it to be a tool of
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  Speaker 2: the white supremacists.
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  Speaker 8: I've always preferred Adam Smith's description of capitalism as the
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: natural system of liberty, the idea that people can own property,
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: that they can exchange it freely with one another for profit.
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  Speaker 8: that they can find ways to put their resources to
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: good use, those private property, and profit in a way
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: that is actually beneficial to everyone else, that there can
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: be gains from trade that are mutually beneficial. These are
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: foundational ideas that have created more wealth than any other
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: system in human history.
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  Speaker 6: That is what capitalism is.
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  Speaker 3: That is not white supremacy. Do you think capitalism has
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: always worked that way?
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: I've just described the actual... I've actually just described the
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: basic facts of economics. Slavery is an institution that is
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: older than writing. It predates capitalism. The notion that whites
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: and all these other things are bound up with capitalism
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: in an intrinsic and fundamental way is so absurd and
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: laughable that it barely needs to be defended.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: So poor, poor Jamil Hill is so narrative driven that
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: when the cold, hard truth that that white slavery, anything
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: that you want to call capitalism, it's impossible to be
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: associated with it. She can't let it go. Abby, whatever
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: her name is on CNN, can't let it go. No, no, no, no.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Capitalism is its white supremacy.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I understand, at least, the fact that some people might
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: say capitalism isn't working. They don't like the current system.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I get that. A lot of Democrats argue that. How
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: did they go from that to it being an oppressive
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: anti any other color than white policy? Where does that
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: even come from? How do you get from point A
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: to point B?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: And by the way, Camille is a black man describing
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that he's a multimillionaire talking to a black female multimillionaire.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: on a show being hosted by a black female multimillionaire,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Abby Phillips, Abby Phillips.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, they're all, they have all somehow cracked the code to,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: to get to the top of the food chain here
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: in the white supremacist nation or any, I guess, nation
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: that has capitalism.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Uh, include, you know, even if it's an African run nation,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: it would be, um, It would be a white supremacist tool, apparently.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: And I guess, you know, if you were to try
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: to listen to Jamel Hill's narrative, it would continue that
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: it may have been designed to be used for good,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: but now it's somehow it rewards whites over blacks. I
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: guess you would say something to that extent.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: She has said the same thing about climate change.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yes. And, you know, as somebody who has a background
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: in sports journalism, that's what she does. I would point
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and say, is it true in sports? Are you saying
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: that there's more white athletes than black athletes or is
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: that a meritocracy? Is that the best get on the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: field or on the court? Because if that's true, why
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: wouldn't it be true in business? Because business people want
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: to make money. When you look at the NFL, NBA, whatever,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: they will forgive about anything. We've had people who have
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: been beating their wives openly somehow get signed to rosters, right?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Because they want to win. That guy gives me an advantage.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I want to win. The same is true in business
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: carte blanche. You can say that about all businesses. They
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: all want to make money. And if they can find
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: a black person, a Latino person, a transgendered person who
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: will make them money, they will run with that person.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: That's all this is. How can I make money? That's
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: all that anybody cares about. And it takes the color
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: out of it. But the narrative is so entrenched that
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: they can't, even when you have a black man explaining
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: it to them, they can't. They can't comprehend it.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Hopefully you're not blinded.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: Hopefully.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I think you're probably all free thinkers and we appreciate
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: your free thinking time that you're spending with us this morning.
• 23:00
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• 23:02
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• 23:08
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  Speaker 6: Good morning, my friends.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: You know, South Carolina, we love college football. Gosh, do
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: we love college football. It's one of the few states
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: where every year you see college football TV ratings outperform
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the NFL. The entire state, Greenville, Columbia, Charleston, constantly just
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: drumming the NFL when it comes to television ratings. And
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: so we're all excited about this big weekend that's coming up. Yesterday,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Jordan Rodgers on ESPN, he's one of the analysts, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: he was asked, is there a game where you could
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: see an upset similar to App State knocking off Michigan.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: That was a 34-point underdog that upset Michigan that year
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: in 2007. This was his answer.
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: Well, I don't think any of them are too likely,
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: but if there was one that I go, well, I
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: could maybe sell you that this one could get interesting,
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: it'd be Furman at Tennessee.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Furman!
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: When you look at Tennessee, they're breaking in a new
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: five-star quarterback. And he is really talented, Faison Brandon. But
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: in these games where App State upsets a Michigan, it's
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: not usually they are more talented. It's that the better
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: team beats themselves.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, a five-star quarterback could try to do too much
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and throw some interceptions and turn to some pick six.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine if Furman from Greenville, South Carolina, marches into...
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Tennessee and just stuns Rocky Top.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: That'd be huge.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh. I'm saying a little prayer for the Furman Paladins.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Morning News.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: We're going to take a break here and be back
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: in just a moment. Donald Trump signing a big bill yesterday.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. Also, a celebrity has passed. We'll
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: talk about the influence. of that celebrity and how it
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: changed culture. They changed the culture of America. That and
• 25:12
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• 25:14
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• 25:17
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news on 103.5 FM and
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Well, Fox News broke it at the top of the
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: hour that the activist Gloria Steinem apparently died yesterday. We're
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: getting the news this morning that she died at 92.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: For you younger folks, you might not be familiar with Ms. Steinem, who,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: very successful businesswoman, launched numerous magazines and just used her
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: activism to make herself quite wealthy. And her basic message,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: if I could just, you know, take all of Gloria
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Steinem's work and put it into one sentence. It's that, quote,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: traditional marriage punishes women. The laws are meant to help
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: women lose their legal identity and rights. That was her message.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: And she started that push in the 60s, launched her
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: magazines in the 70s, and so much of culture was
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: influenced by that, that this idea that you're accepting less
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: in life if you're a traditional female who gets married
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and has a traditional husband, and then you have a
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: traditional nuclear family. And we see so much of culture today,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: very upset about the nuclear family. They don't like it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: That's one of the, I was listening to one of
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the actors on, what's it called? The Green, what's the,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: it's like a Marvel comic or whatever. They got an
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: HBO show out now, The Green something or other. Green Lantern,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: is that it? I don't follow these things, Christopher, but
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I heard him being played on a podcast and he
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: was making the point That in America, you have two options. One,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: you're going to go it alone. Or two, you're going
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to get married and then it's going to be you
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and your family. And he used the phrase against everybody.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: But it's not fair that everybody doesn't get to have
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: a family. And so we should have laws designed basically
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to stop that. Stop the traditional families. That's the attitude.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: That's crazy talk.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Well, that's, again, socialism, Christopher. When they talk about making
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: everybody equal, they're talking about it at the lowest common denominator.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: They don't want people elevated. They don't want us all
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: independently wealthy and not needing the state to provide us
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: food and just basic necessities. Food, health care, all those
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: types of things, they want that to be the same
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: for everybody. And it's basically line up and get your gruel.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I know. I know. And Gloria Steinem was a big
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: proponent of that idea that marriage is a horrible thing.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Poor women. Yeah, I guess for the men who would
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: be the oppressor as opposed to the oppressee. And I
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: guess in her version of it, it's a version where
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: the man comes home after a day at work and
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: receives a back massage. and a warm meal, and then
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: is told how great he is, and then he can
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: ignore his wife and then go read his newspaper or
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: whatever they used to do in the 60s, and then
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: off to bed he goes, and you stay up and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: take care of the kids. I don't want to mess
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: with them either. That was her version of a marriage.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: That's the way she kind of characterized it. I would
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: just say we have lost a lot in America. Birth
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: rates are at record lows. The traditional family is under
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: attack And Americans, I think some Americans are waking up
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to that idea. We are seeing a movie. Who is
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: the young lady who said something at the Charlie Kirk thing,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: like a Turning Point USA event? And she was like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: get married, have kids before you think you can afford them.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: You're going to appreciate that decision when you're in your
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: 40s and 50s. And the blowback that she received from
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: all these leftists, like, who the hell is she to
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: say that? So you're financially irresponsible then. If you don't
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: have $ 1. 8 million ready, because that's what it costs to
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: raise a kid, is $ 1. 8 million, you should not ever
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: have a child. Okay, well, did you have the $ 300, 000
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: before you bought the house? Oh, you paid that off
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: in installments. Mortgage, yes. Yeah, exactly. That's how life works.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Think about it. But they don't want to think about it. Again,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for the friends and family of Gloria Steinem.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: And again, very successful business lady, multimillionaire. She did finally,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: by the way, get married. In case you're wondering, she
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: got married, I just saw this, at age 66. She
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: got married, unfortunately, for her. I don't know if she
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: knew that the man that she was marrying was ill,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: but he died about three years later. So a very
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: short marriage for Gloria Steinem, and then she never remarried again.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Kelly, I feel like so much of what you said
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: already this morning is, how did we get here?
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: We're living in crazyville.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand now why kids don't watch movies. the
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: old shows anymore, like leave it to beaver, for example,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: they would, they wouldn't even understand that. They wouldn't even
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: understand the, the two parent household and the, you know,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: the happiness that's portrayed at the dinner table every night.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't happen that way anymore. And you've got
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: to ask, how did we get here? And, and are
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: we really in a better place than we were back then?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Uh, I would think by just about any standards, you
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: could say no.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Um, educationally, we're not, just the happy index is lower.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Everything is going in the wrong direction the more this
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: liberalism creeps into American culture. Gloria Steinem was a big
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: part of pushing that agenda 60 years ago. And again,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry she's passed, but I'm sorry that she got
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: such a big platform to influence so many young women
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: in the 60s, 70s, and 80s that it has led
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to where we're at currently. But That's neither here nor there.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: All we can do is take it from here. We
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: play the ball where it lies, and this is where
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: we're lying. It is 7-0-9. If you've got thoughts, let
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: us know on the Talkback feature.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I've got like 900 things going on over here. All right,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: good morning. Hi there. It's Kelly Nash. Christopher Thompson and
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I are bringing you South Carolina's Morning News. This may
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: be a two-parter, this segment might be. I will start
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: off by saying 15 hours ago, Ralph Norman ended all
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: debate with a tweet. I'm not going to read all
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: of it, but he says, as I repeatedly said on
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: the campaign trail, my fight is never with other Republicans.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: It's with socialist Democrats and the rhinos who enable them.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Talks about how proud he is of the race. The
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: primary may be over. The stakes have never been higher.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: The radical socialist agenda. Coming from the left is a
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: direct threat to the values that have made our state
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: so great we cannot afford division, complacency, or to sit
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: on the sidelines while the future of the country is
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: at stake. I respect the decision of South Carolina voters.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Congratulate Senator Darlene Graham. And I will support our Republican
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: nominee in November because defeating the Democrats and protecting our
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: conservative values must remain the priority. So that should be it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Should be it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: That. For all of you Ralph Norman supporters who got
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: all excited when he said, what was it, Monday or Tuesday? Tuesday,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I guess, was when he was coming out of Congress
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and said to the reporter who asked, what would you
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: tell undecided South Carolina voters? He said, I'd say write
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: in Ralph Norman.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: And now apparently he's saying he misheard the question. Possibly.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the question he thought he heard was.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: That's what I've been pondering too.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I will give grace.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I will give grace. I don't think that anybody needs
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: to circle back on Ralph Norman. Ralph Norman is a
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: wonderful legislator who, again, had my vote in the primary.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: That being said, the primary is over. And as Ralph
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Norman says... We must support the Republican nominee in November
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: because defeating the Democrats and protecting our conservative values must
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: remain the priority. Now, for any of you people who
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: are not happy with Darlene Graham, I totally understand that.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I get it. Most of you would not have been
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: happy with Lindsey Graham either. And I understand that as well. However,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: there is a huge difference between Annie Andrews and Darlene Graham. Massive.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: And a lot of it has very little to do
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: with either one of them in the sense that if
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Annie Andrews is the senator, that in itself could be
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: enough to swing the Senate to the Democrats because she
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: will caucus with the Democrats. And she is a Democrat.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Whether she is exceedingly to the left or not is
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: irrelevant here. The people in charge are. And by the way,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: if you think that you're going to continue to get
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: moderates out of the Democrats, some people like to think
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer's a moderate.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: He is not.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: But he is being driven right now by Bernie Sanders
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: and Elizabeth Warren and Ro Khanna. And the most extreme
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: parts of that party are the ones that will take over.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Meaning all the committee assignments. Whoever your favorite Republicans are,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: name your favorite conservative, whoever he or she may be.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: They're gone. They're not fired from the Senate, but they're
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: fired from running any kind of committees. And whoever runs
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the committees has all the juice. And so you are
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a vote for even the most moderate Democrat gives all
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the power to burn. Basically, just say I'm writing in
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren and I'm writing in Bernie Sanders. That's what
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: you're doing. if you vote for the Democrats at the
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Senate level. On the House level, I'd say you're voting
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: in AOC, who just, again, switched parties. She just switched parties.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I'll say that a third time. She just switched parties
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: to the Democrat socialists. It is official. She is a socialist.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: She is not a Democrat. She is a socialist. When
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the socialist campaign came out, she said, that's who I am. Oh,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: they aligned perfectly with me. And so now she is
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: energized by that. James Tallarico, socialist, whatever.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: El-Sayed.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hannity was talking about El-Sayed, socialist. Mamdani, socialist. These
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: are the most extreme people who literally hate the American
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: way of life. They cannot stand it. And so they
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: will do whatever they can to end that. So a
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: vote for any Democrat, no matter how moderate they are,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that's what that's a vote for. And there's no getting.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Out of that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: You can't say, well, they wouldn't be that way. Well,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how they would be. They're not at
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: the top of the ticket. They're not the person in
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: charge of their party. And speaking of running their party,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: there was a vote yesterday. Ralph Norman voted against it.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to text right now, is
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to try to get him on to talk about his
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: vote against it. But that vote— or it was two days
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: ago now— that vote has got Hakeem Jeffries so angry. Not
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: even the vote. The procedural motion before the vote is
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: what he's really ticked off. When you see what the
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: leadership of the Democrat Party is doing, we will— I'm
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: stunned that they're that open about it. But we will
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: talk about that and more. Whatever you got on your
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: talkback mind, use it. Hit that talkback feature on the
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, 725. And just like that, here he is on
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the phone, the man, the myth, the legend, Ralph Norman.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Doing great, Kelly. Glad to be with you.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to have you back on the show.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: And we were talking about yesterday the House had a vote.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: and our understanding from the media is it was basically
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: to condemn socialism, and there were five Republicans who voted
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: against it, and that would include yourself. Can you explain
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: why you would vote against that?
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Well, it was a messaging bill to give people cover.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Socialism and the Republicans and Democrats said, that are part
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: of it are, you know, they're going to do what
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: they want to do. They're going to continue big government,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: big social spending. And this was just a messaging bill.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: And I guess it stems back really to the fact
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: that with the SAVE Act, we've been talking about that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: That's off the burner now. And that's the most important thing.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: These frivolous bills that do nothing, I'm just tired of it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: And it's, Surely I'm against socialism. I'm a free market capitalist.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: But it's just there are a growing number of us
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: that we're not doing anything up here. We're not doing
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: the people's work of solidifying, verifying our elections, cutting our deficits,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: and just doing the basic things. And that was the reason.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Ralph Norman on the phone yesterday, you voted against that bill.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Is there, and again, I know from your campaign for
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the Senate that you, you feel like the Senate is
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: where the bills go to die. Good legislation dies in
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the Senate. Um, is there anything else that the house
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: should be doing? Would you, if, if like Mike Johnson's
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: listening on the I heart radio app, good mornings, house speaker,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Mike Johnson, if you're listening, what would Ralph Norman like
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: to see the house take up at this point? Anything?
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Um, The SAVE Act is– now, we voted on it
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: three times, but I would not pass any more Senate
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: bills at all, not vote for anything until they deal
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: with it. That's it.
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Know, we're continuing down this path of destruction and putting
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: up fake bills that mean nothing. It just shouldn't be
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: in our vocabulary or in our voting today, and it's–
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: And I think that the Speaker would agree with that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, the Senate is where all the bills go
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: to die, not just the good ones. They make the
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: good ones worse. And they're not willing to take it
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: up and deal with it.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, Congressman, we wish you all the best today.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Like I said on the air earlier, I appreciated your
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: tweet yesterday about unifying the Republicans here in South Carolina.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: It's too important to lose that seat.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: You know, I would never. Democrat like Annie Andrews, pro-trans,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: pro-mutilating our young children, no, we can't do that. And
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I would never do that. We've got to unify as
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: one party, and let's do the best we can and
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: try to make this state as red as we can.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to have you on the show, sir,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: and very much appreciate you making time for South Carolina's
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Morning News.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: We just had Congressman Ralph Norman on talking about why
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: he voted against the condemnation of socialism yesterday in the House.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: And if you were to read the resolutions, there's a
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: bunch of whereases and whereases and whereases. And basically what
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: it says is that socialism is responsible for the death
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: of over 100 million people worldwide. Socialist ideology necessitates a
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: concentration of power. that has collapsed time and time again
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: at the communist regimes, totalitarian rule and repressive dictatorships. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: think everybody agrees with that. I mean, it's never, it's
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: never worked. Um, and that's the funny thing that, so
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: how about this? When the people say, well, we want
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: like the Finland socialism, that's the one we want.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Okay. That's picking shoes. Yeah.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: They're not a, um, socialist country, by the way. But
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: there are some, but again, we've pointed out in America,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: we already have some socialist programs in this country. So
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: by that standard, we are already socialist. What they're pushing for,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the Democrat socialists are pushing for a true form of socialism,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: which again, calls for a concentration of power and a
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: limitation on what people can do. And so it was
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: overwhelmingly passed. I forget, it ended up with eight democrats
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: voting for it as well but the thing that really
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: ticked off the democrats specifically hakeem jeffries and the uh
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the leadership of the democrat party because he is one
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: of the leaders he's also got uh what's her name
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: kathleen uh forget her name the whip the whip she
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: got a whip it real good um they got together
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: and they put out a little there it is katherine
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: clark and House Democrat caucus chair Pete Aguirre. Those three
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: held a little get-together and put out a statement regarding
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: the procedural vote because it would not have been able
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: to come up for a vote had they not had
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: two Democrats who sided with the Republicans to get it
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: up there. So this is what Jeffrey says. The decision
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: by two of our colleagues to blindside the entire House
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Democrat caucus and join the Republican majority to pass a
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: procedural rule on the brink of failing represents a significant
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: breach of trust. This is an action that necessitates a
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: serious response. And we have asked the committee on the
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: caucus rules to take this up in short order. When asked,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: what does that actually even mean? He said, anything and
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: everything is still on the table in regards to those two. Wow.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: So vote your conscience at your own peril.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: This is what we, when we talk about the, like,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I know Republicans get very frustrated when Republicans don't vote
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: for Republican things or whatever. But you're not going to
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: see a Republican House leader, nor would I want you
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: to see a Republican like John Thune or whomever, coming
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: down on somebody. Like, let's take the most liberal. What's
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: her face in Maine? Susan Collins.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: You take Susan Collins and you say either she does
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: what we tell her to do or there's going to
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: be serious consequences. She's been stripped of all committee assignments.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: We are going to pull all the funding that the
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Republicans use to support her and blah, blah, blah. We're
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: going to actively primary her. That is what a lot
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: of people want to see happen. I don't like that.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: That's that's authoritarianism. That is you. putting down your foot
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: and saying, you're going to do exactly as you're told.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I want my representative in South Carolina to vote the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: way I want them to vote for South Carolina. The
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: person in Maine should vote in the best interest of
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: the people of Maine, not the best. And again, there
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: might be a conflict there. What Jeffrey's and the, and
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: the Democrats say is we move as one or else
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: there are consequences to you personally. And so whoever these,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: these two are, I don't even know who they are,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: like where they're from or whatever. If their people back
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: home don't like that vote that they just did, they're
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: going to hear about it this year. They're up for election.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: They're going to find out here in a couple of
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: months whether or not that was the right move or not.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: If it wasn't, they'll be out of a job. If
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: it was, they'll be back in Congress.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: So he's dealing harshly with moderate Democrats.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Just the two, not the eight. Because there's a couple–
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: in that eight is the two. So like Henry Culler,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: who I had the privilege of meeting thanks to Representative
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Joe Wilson. I got to meet Henry. He's a Texas Democrat.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I guess we might even call him a Republican at
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: this point because he's so strong on the border. And
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: he's– because his district is all about build the wall.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: But he's a Democrat. He was one of the guys
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: who voted for it. Jeffrey's not dealing with him. He's
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: talking about the two who kept it alive with the
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: procedural vote. And they're going to deal with them harshly. Now,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: what does that look like? And you would think that
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: somebody would walk it back. But no. What's her name?
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: The whip and the caucus leader. They stood right there
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: with him while he said it. And they're like shoulder
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: to shoulder on this. We're going to punish those people.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: They're going to feel the wrath of the Democrat Party.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: And think when they punish their own like that. Imagine
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: if they get an upper hand on Americans. They will
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: punish you as well.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Well, when's he going to start punishing the progressive Democrats
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: who are bucking against the Democrat platform? When does that start?
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: They're a big tent party.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: We're not a big tent, though, for the moderns. We're
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: a big tent for the socialists. And again, it's so
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: ironic that they would call themselves Democrat socialists. It'd be
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: like if Republicans started using a phrase like, I'm an
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: American supremacist. Like, why would you? I mean, just get
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: rid of the word supremacists, you know? But either or.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: They want to be socialists. They can be socialists. It's 739.
• 46:42
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• 46:47
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• 46:49
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• 46:57
  Speaker 10: Hey, good morning, guys. It's Mark in Newberry. You're talking
• 46:59
  Speaker 10: about the Democratic Socialists. You know, I think it's really
• 47:02
  Speaker 10: funny because I'm not sure that they even understand their
• 47:05
  Speaker 10: own platform. I saw Al-Saeed on with, I think it
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: was Jesse Waters one night, and within two minutes, he
• 47:13
  Speaker 10: said he wanted government health care, free health care for all,
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: and then turned around just a few seconds later talking
• 47:21
  Speaker 10: about something else and said he didn't want the government
• 47:23
  Speaker 10: making health choices for him.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Makes sense of that.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Good point, Mark.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Mark from Newberry. You know, that's good work, Mark. Thank
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: you for bringing that to our attention. I missed that.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I saw parts of that interview with Jesse Waters and
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: El Saeed. And I also like the fact that El
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Saeed and the Democrats, socialists, are trying to separate themselves now. from,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: what's that guy's name? Hassan Piker.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Hassan Piker. He was great in the primaries, not so
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: great in general elections, apparently. Piker not letting him off
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: the hook. Y'all, you're all the ones who contacted me
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: and asked me to stump for you. And they try
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: to minimize him by saying he's just a podcaster for
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: God's sake. Well, if he's just a podcaster, why did
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: you invite him to come to Michigan and go out
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: on the road with you? If he's just a podcaster.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: You obviously thought he had influence. And by the way,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I will point out that Rush Limbaugh was just a
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: radio host. Just a radio host who many credit with
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: the 1994 revolution, the Republican revolution. If you asked.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Former Speaker Newt Gingrich, he would say Rush Limbaugh was
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: a major contributing factor to that. So, yes, whether it's
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: social media or it's just the media in general, some
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: people are able to build a big platform. Hasan Piker
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: is one of those people. And when you invite him
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: to come out on tour with you, then you get
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: all the stuff that comes with that. And right now,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: the fact that Hasan Piker is calling for the ending
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: of the United States and says that 9-11, we totally
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: deserved it. and Charlie Kirk had it come in, and
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: all these types of things that Hasan Piker wants to espouse,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: you can't separate yourself from that now.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: No, you can't. You can't say, well, I like his
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: values because he likes me and wants to vote for me,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: but I don't like his values on this, that, and
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: the other.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, how do you separate the fact that
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: you want the government to pay for all the health care,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: but you don't want the government involved in health care?
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: No.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: It's 747.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Morning News.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: You know, last year, Henry McMaster became the longest serving
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: governor in South Carolina history. He's not the longest serving
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: governor currently in office, though. That's Greg Abbott down in Texas.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: But Henry's enjoying the last few months. He's got four
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: months left in the term and then that'll be it.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: And so he's soaking up all the benefits of being
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the governor. And Sunday he will be at Darlington and
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: riding in the pace car. I appreciate that the folks
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: over at Darlington, when they made this announcement, his support
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: of our sport and our track goes far beyond being
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: a fan. His leadership and commitment made it possible for
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: NASCAR to become the first major professional sport to return
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: to competition following the outbreak of COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: I'd forgotten about that.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: And that is one of those things where I remember UFC,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: they started having fights again, but the lunacy of the
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: pandemic- uh, caused everything to stop. And again, common sense,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: thankfully ruled the day in South Carolina. And we were
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: able to say, uh, they're sitting outside, they should be fine.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: And so we allowed people to go to Darlington, but yeah,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty cool thing to do. I would imagine
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: riding in it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know how big a race fan he actually is,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: but he realizes how important Darlington is to that community,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: to the economy. I mean, it's one of the few
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: pro sporting events in the state of South Carolina. And
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: he's always celebrated it. I've been over to the governor's
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: mansion several times for media events where you'll see the
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: car parked right in front of the governor's mansion. And,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: you know, Henry's always there with, you know, one of
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: the drivers and it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's a
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: made for, for photo op moment, but still it's, it's,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: he shows his support and he's been, he's been that
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: way for the last eight years or so.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Now, Christopher, are you a, do you consider yourself still
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: a sports fan or have you become such a professional
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: that you don't have a fandom anymore? I, fandom would
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: probably be the wrong word.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: I I'm an avid observer of sports observer.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: What do you think would be the coolest thing to
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: do as the governor? Like I was thinking when he
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: came on the field with Donald Trump at Williams price stadium,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: that's probably to me, that'd be the coolest thing that
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: you could do.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: That was probably pretty big, but I don't know. I
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: don't know if anything, Trump's no pun intended writing it.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: They won't be writing in that pace card, you know,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: great speeds, but nonetheless to get a chance to run
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: that track, that'd be pretty cool.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: You know what, before we do the race, I'd say, hey,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: can we just do a lap like the fastest we
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: can do it with a professional?
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to be driving it at
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: 140 or whatever, 150, whatever they get those things cranked
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: up to as a pace car, but let's crank it
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: up and let it ride. Wave to all the fans.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I'm happy that Henry McMaster gets to do that. That's
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: this Sunday. They've got a lot going on. They've got
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: a truck race or something going on Saturday as well, right?
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: So Darlington will be jam-packed this Labor Day weekend.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: We hope so.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: All right. So we'll be back up. Trump signed another
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: bill yesterday. We'll talk about what that did. It is
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: now seven 54.
• 52:36
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• 52:46
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• 52:50
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• 52:56
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• 52:59
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• 53:03
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• 53:08
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• 53:13
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• 53:18
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• 53:21
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• 53:24
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• 53:26
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• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Who is this?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: And she had just gone viral at that point. Christopher,
• 53:35
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• 53:38
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• 53:41
  Speaker 2: their first game of the year was going to be
• 53:43
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• 53:45
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• 53:48
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• 53:51
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• 53:54
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• 53:57
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• 54:00
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• 54:01
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• 54:02
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• 54:05
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• 54:08
  Speaker 3: And she suddenly became the bigger name?
• 54:10
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• 54:14
  Speaker 2: I can't even be the number one-rated Kelly Nash. I'm
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: the number two to her. But I'm still fighting. Look,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I'm trying harder. I bet you I put in more
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: hours than that, Kelly Nash.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you do.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I work my butt off to try to get that
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: number one slot back. I used to be the number
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: one Kelly Nash. It wasn't that long ago.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: You're number one in our hearts.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Christopher. And, you know, Gavin Newsom, you might
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: have heard that on the top of the hour news break,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: coming to South Carolina. Now, he is crisscrossing the state,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: according to the local media. I went to the Democrats' website.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I don't see anything for today. But it does say
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: in the news reports, I'll just read this line. Governor
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Newsom will be stopping in Aiken, West Columbia, Lancaster, Beaufort,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and Dorchester County both Thursday and Friday. So that is
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: crisscrossing the state. Apparently plenty of opportunities if you'd like
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: to meet him.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: But you have to sign up in advance.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, is that the deal?
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Yes. And they say that it's limited audiences. You may
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: not get in even if you sign up.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I love this, by the way. I love that Gavin
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Newsom feels as if South Carolina must be in play.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I know that in the bigger picture, he's just trying
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: to lay the groundwork for his presidential campaign. But he
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: wouldn't really be here, I don't think, if he didn't
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: think that there was an opportunity for Annie Andrews. And he,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: by the way, he's one of the suckers who took
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: the bait on the Jermaine Johnson has a shot poll.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, he was the first one to jump on that.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: And retweet that out.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: The next governor is known by about, literally his name
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: is known by about 14% of the state. That's the
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: next governor? Okay. You got that right. Anyway, so his
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: appearance over the next few days to me says that
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: some Democrats, not all, think that South Carolina's in play.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I like that. I want them to spend money here
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: and not spend it in places where it might really
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: be effective. I'm looking at you, Texas, because Ken Paxton
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: is not a very good candidate. This guy does not
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: know how to campaign, apparently. And so James Tallarico, who
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: is a horrific candidate unto himself, just literally they should– well,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I guess next week they're going to be running ads.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: I think Paxton announced they're running $ 15 million in ads
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: beginning next week. Just run that– just don't even be
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: in the spot. Just let Tallarico talk because every time
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: he talks, he says crazy stuff. You know, he was
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: talking the other day about how he agrees with the
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: idea that white supremacy is behind capitalism. We got to
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: end that. We got to trans the kids. The bravest
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: people amongst us are the trans kids, according to James Tallarico.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Those are the— not the military. Those people who sign up
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: to go and die in foreign lands, they're nothing compared
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: to a 16-year-old saying, I'm in the wrong body.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Interesting that you bring that up, Kelly, because— Texas is
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: a little bit like South Carolina in that regard, because
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: you're talking about a race in which Paxton, not a
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: strong Republican candidate. A lot of people have refused to
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: get behind his campaign. Ted Cruz is urging people look.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Look at what you've got as the alternative. Now, Annie
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Andrews is not as radical as James Tallarico.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Few are.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: But nonetheless, you've got Republicans in this state divided too,
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: and some are unwilling to get behind Darlene Graham's campaign.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Well, again, I will reiterate it until November. I was
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: a Ralph Norman voter, but I am all Team Graham
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: right now. I am Team GOP. And for those of
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: you who are under the... misguided illusion that somehow you're
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: helping conservatives conservatism by losing a race you don't understand
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: how politics works because the natural progression of things is
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: to shrink freedoms and expand government that is just the
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: way nature works it's like if you don't mow the
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: lawn it's going to be filled with weeds it's going
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: to overgrow your house it's going to be a mess
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Right now, the Republicans may not be the conservative movement
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: that you'd hope for, but at the minimum, therefore, just
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: maintaining where we're at. And that's a lot more than
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: can be said for the Democrats. They want to expand
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: government and shrink freedoms. That's the way those two things work.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm all on Graham. I'm all on Republicans. And
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: we got to win this thing in November. But again,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's actually going to be because we're
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: a plus 10 state. So I can't imagine. You know,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: that many Republicans are going to say, I'm sitting home
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: or I'm voting for somebody else to make that big
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: of a difference. I mean, it might be a little
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: bit tighter for Darlene. She might only win by three
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: or four points, but I think she wins by three
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: or four points minimum. But that's my thoughts. What do
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: you think? Use the talkback feature. Maybe you're going to
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: go see Gavin Newsom, who, by the way, I've had
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: on the show before. Nice guy, completely misguided on politics,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: but a great guy. You might enjoy meeting him. All right,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: let us know on the talkback feature. It's 8.09.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: So it was a big day, you know. Trump always
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: has big days, but he got to sign some legislation yesterday.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: The House passed a measure 370 to 48. That is
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: bipartisanship right there. Meeting the two-thirds majority threshold needed to
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: move the bill quickly under suspension of the rules. It
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: funds the government now through December 11th. So we are
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: not going to have a government shutdown as could have happened.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: before the midterms. We're now going to get through the midterms.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: And this is just a great reminder that Democrats have
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: no problems at all hurting you.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: None.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: They don't think twice about just wrecking your vacations or
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: punishing you in any way, but they won't punish themselves.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. When they're up for reelection, it's a different story.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, It was last year, I think, that
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: we had the record, at that time, 43-day government shutdown
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: because they wanted the Republicans to extend the subsidies for
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: the health insurance premiums. Again, the ones that the Democrats
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: voted to expire on said date. There was no Republican
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: voting supporting subsidies because the Republicans always said this is
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: just socialism. You're just redistributing wealth, and it's stupid, and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: you're driving up the costs of health care. So now
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: the American people are going to see what you actually did.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: So they wouldn't come along, and they shut down the government.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Did they get that? No, they never got it. Then
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: they had a 76-day shutdown because they were upset that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: ICE was getting funded. And again, that one, ICE had
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: already been funded. So it had nothing to do with ICE.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: It was just a grandstanding. They wanted somehow the government
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: to go back and defund the program that they had
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: already funded, which was insane.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Political theater.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: But now that we're getting close to their elections, I mean,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: could we not have the same type of grandstanding to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: shut down ICE again? Have we fixed that? Have we
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: fixed the premiums? Are we not going to provide the subsidies?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Where's your fight, Democrats? Where's your spines? Oh, again, it's
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: inconvenient for you this time. So overwhelmingly passed it yesterday.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: And Donald Trump has signed it. Now, I know there's
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: some Republicans who are upset about this. They're like, why
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: do we just keep kicking the can down the road?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Mike Johnson said something to the extent that this will
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: allow us the time to come up with a thoughtful
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: budget for the year. We're going to avoid the threat
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: of another Democrat shutdown. I said the continuing resolution gives
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: appropriations more time to hash out the full year budget bill.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Have we ever actually, what's the last time we actually
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: had a real full budget just voted on?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: It's been like years. It feels like it. Yes. So
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: we just do these CRS.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: And for those of you who are like, I don't
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: want to say fiscal hawks, but just people who are
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: cognizant of the fact that $ 40 trillion in debt is
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: crushing the America, um, you recognize that despite Donald Trump's
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: best efforts, you can't grow yourself out of this debt.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: It's impossible. There has to be cuts at some point.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: It's like, if you make a hundred thousand dollars a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: year and you have $ 5 million in debt, at some
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: point you have to stop adding to the debt. Yes,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: you have to grow some as well, but you have
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: to stop spending. So you can't spend $ 150, 000 a year
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: when you're a half million dollars in debt. Um, The
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: math doesn't math. So we need to start getting some
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: fiscal responsibility in D.C.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: That's why Rand Paul's pitching his plan again, the six
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: penny plan. Cut six cents of every dollar the federal
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: government's projected to spend across the board. No matter the department,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: six cents of every dollar spent, the government would cut
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: that out of the budget. He says that would balance
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: the budget in five years with no new taxes.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: And I.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, that sounds so easy. It's kind of like
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: when Richland County pitches or any county pitches the penny tax.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: It's just a penny. It is 6%. That is a
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: pretty dramatic cut. I have seen some projections where if
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: you just capped the government spending at whatever last year's
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: rate was, just take the 2025 budget, whatever they spent
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: in 2025, and say we're not adding to it until
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: we're balanced. You could probably do it in like 10
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: or 15 years. You'd get rid of the debt. But
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: they can't even– to them, that's a– because they project
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: in so much expense, extra expense every year, that if
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: you say we're just going to– we spent $ 100, 000 on
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: that program last year. We're going to spend $ 100, 000 on
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: it this year. That's a cut. And the Democrats cry
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: and moan. And, oh, my gosh, it's a 5% cut.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: The children are.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: Going to die.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: All right. We've got to take a break. It's 819.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: I feel like there are smarter ways that we could
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 7: balance the debt. I mean, there's so many little ways
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: that the government has of getting in on all of
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: the action that involves money. And where does all that
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: money go? They just legalized marijuana in so many states.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: Tax the hell out of it. Take that tax and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: put it towards the deficit. I mean, where is it
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 7: going right now?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Hello there. I appreciate using the talkback feature. I'm Kelly Nash.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: That's Christopher Thompson. And did we do we know who
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: that young man was?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Joe from the Somerville area.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Joe, in Somerville for listening. You know, I'll
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: point out that, yes, marijuana is legal in a lot
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: of states, although it's ironic because I've years ago when
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Trump first got into office, I said he should punish
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: those states because it's still a federal offense. And just
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: On principle, Donald Trump had the ability, if he wanted
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: to at that point, to say, no, federal law is
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: still the law of the land, and until they legalize
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: it in Congress, you can't legalize it at the state level.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: But he didn't, and so now we have entire industries.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: A couple of things have happened in states like California
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: and Colorado. They've noticed that the legal sales of it
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: are– dwindling and because people don't want to pay tax.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: They'd rather, they'd.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Rather buy it from their local dealer on the street.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: So, you know, that's one thing I'll also point out
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: that when government gets money, uh, I came to South
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Carolina originally right around the same time that we were
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: passing the South Carolina education lottery. And I remember being,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: you know, the, the marketing on that was pretty much,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: you're not going to have to pay for education anymore.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a little bit of an overdramatization of
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: what they were saying, but that was kind of the idea.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: But has your tax dollars for education gone down substantially? No.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: What has happened is the cost of education has continued
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: to rise as there's more and more money in the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: market for education. They just charge more and more for it,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: so that money ends up getting eaten up anyway. So
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: you still pay yours, and then we'll take more of
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: yours through the education lottery and or marijuana tax or
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: whatever other way government can get a hold of the money.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: But that's the way government works, and that's why you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: need to have people standing there who will fight to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: shrink the size of government and shrink the size of spending. Now,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: when we come back, I have bad news for Charleston.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: You don't have people. Well, maybe it's good news. Maybe
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at it wrong. Maybe Charleston has the best news,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: and it's us here in the Midlands. I'm looking at
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Horry County. Either they got horrible news or great news.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: We'll run it through your perspectives, see what you think
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: about that as we come back on South Carolina's Morning News.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: It's 827.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Well, Henry McMaster signed the... budget with the earmarks. And
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: he said, earmarks have long been a part of the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: budget process. And we've worked over the years to make
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: the process of reviewing them more transparent and accountable to
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: the taxpayers of South Carolina. That has been an ongoing process.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: And we've continued to strengthen that review of proposed earmarks
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: before taxpayer dollars are committed. Um, and he did not, uh,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: veto any of them. They're all, they're all in, uh,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: they did point out in one of the stories I
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: was looking at that, uh, some of the things that
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: they did not put in for the governor to consider
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: in Richland County, for example, an economic mobility and business
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: growth plan proposed by Leon Howard and Annie McDaniel was scrapped.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Also funding for the flock drone responder for the Irma
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: police department left out. So sorry for y'all. But if
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: you'd go and just look at the top earmarks, and again,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: we're talking about limiting government spending because then, You don't
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: want to have debt problems, but you also don't want
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: to expand government. Even if you can afford it, the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: more spending, usually the growth of government. There's 120 earmarks
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: of a million dollars or more. Top allocation. The number
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: one most expensive earmark was $ 7. 5 million for a Myrtle
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Beach fiber optic cable site.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 9: $ 6.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: 1 million to resurface a bridge in Horry County. $ 6
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: million for a Malden multipurpose stadium. So there's the upstate
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: getting in on it. $ 5 million for the Congaree River
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: District here in Columbia. Myrtle Beach Infrastructure got some cash
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: and let's see, that's called the Daniel Morgan Technology Center
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: in Spartanburg also got it. Now, I think the most
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: expensive thing that the people down in the greater Charleston
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: area got was $ 4. 8 million for the National Medal of
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Honor Leadership and Education Center, which I believe is in
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Mount Pleasant. But if you were to just break it
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: down by counties, top earmarks, most of the money went
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: to Greenville, York, and Horry counties, which ironically are supposed
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: to be the most conservative counties. Ironically.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: But also where a lot of leadership in the House
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: and Senate resides.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: And the last county. is Charleston County. It came in
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: dead last. Now, I don't know. Maybe that means first. Again,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: depending on the prism of how you look at this,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: the fact that the Charleston County legislation groups didn't come
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: in here and get the most money, is that a
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: good thing or is that a bad thing? I've talked
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: to some legislators. They asked that I don't say their names,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: and so I won't, who said, look, it's not as
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: if that money is going to go back into anything.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: That money is going to be spent. The question is,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: are we going to spend it in my district or
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: are we going to spend it in somebody else's district?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Same thing with the federal things. Are we going to
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: spend it in South Carolina or are we going to
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: spend it in Georgia? And that's their argument for fighting
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: to get more money for the state. or for your county. Well,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: let's be honest here, Kelly. For starters, the governor punted this.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: He could have said no to the whole thing because
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: the House and Senate originally said they were going to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: put together a committee and they were going to consider
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: each earmark, each dollar, each taxpayer dollar spent on its virtues. Instead,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: they came to that compromise and decided, okay, we're done here.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: We fought our fight. We lowered what the House was
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: asking for. Let's just agree to it and go home,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: which is what they wound up doing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they did leave out, like we said, the flock cameras,
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  Speaker 2: the mobility and business growth plan. There are several things
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  Speaker 2: that they did cut out before they sent it to
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  Speaker 2: the governor.
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  Speaker 3: Before they spent how much?
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  Speaker 2: It was like $ 300 and something million, right? I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to remember the exact figure. It's an eye-watering mark, $ 350
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  Speaker 2: million roughly. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And that none of that could have gone to taxpayer.
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  Speaker 3: I know there's a section in there regarding senior citizens
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  Speaker 3: and their property taxes. But what about tax relief for
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  Speaker 3: the rest of us? Did did all that money need
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  Speaker 3: to be spent?
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  Speaker 2: Well, and, you know, again, the arguments against these things is,
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  Speaker 2: is this a core role of government, state government? And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I like for Malden. They're building a multipurpose stadium.
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  Speaker 6: Great.
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  Speaker 2: Good for y'all. Malden County or Malden taxpayers should be
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  Speaker 2: the one funding the multipurpose stadium, not the people who
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: live down in Beaufort or something like that. It's not
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  Speaker 2: the job of the state to provide a multipurpose stadium.
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  Speaker 2: It's the job of the district, the county. If you
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  Speaker 2: want to get a couple of counties together and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: can we raise our taxes to do this because it'll
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  Speaker 2: benefit all of the county area? rate?
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure their argument is, but you don't know how
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  Speaker 3: many state tourism dollars will generate with that Malden all-purpose facility.
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  Speaker 2: And again, that's their thing, right? It's always going to
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  Speaker 2: bring in more money or something like when you're looking
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: at the resurfacing of a bridge. Okay, that is kind
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: of the role of government. So you got to pay
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  Speaker 2: for that. But even like the National Medal of Honor
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  Speaker 2: Leadership and Education Center, is that a state thing? I
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: like honoring And teaching people about the Medal of Honor
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: and those, you know, that's a great American value. But
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: should the state be paying for that or should that
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: be privately fundraised? Those are just great arguments that people
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: can bat around. We're currently at a place where it's
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: probably a combination of the two. I would imagine that
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  Speaker 2: they probably are privately fundraising and they're getting state dollars
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure I should go visit it. I've, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never I know I've never been
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  Speaker 2: to it. So I'll have to go find that next
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  Speaker 2: time I'm down in Mount Pleasant National Medal of Honor
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  Speaker 2: Leadership and Education Center. seeing that $ 4. 8 million of my
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: tax dollars went there.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Not my tax dollars, our tax dollars. If you've got
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on the earmark process, let us know on the
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  Speaker 1: Your news, traffic, weather, and information stations. This is South
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  Speaker 2: This is Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson and looking at
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  Speaker 2: an op-ed piece in the state newspaper from a lady
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: named Lisa Jarvis, who is an op-ed person at Bloomberg,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: talking about how the Republicans need to do more to
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  Speaker 2: help with health care costs. And she makes the statement
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: that the cost of health care is expected to surge
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  Speaker 2: by 10 percent in 2027, the highest increase that we've
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  Speaker 2: seen in a while. And she's not wrong. That is
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  Speaker 2: the projections. If you were to look at national health
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: care expenditures, and this is from KPP, which is a
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: liberal organization, and they track it all the way back
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: to 1970, the first time using twenty twenty four dollars.
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  Speaker 2: So this is not at the time what they were spending.
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  Speaker 2: This is what just our value of our money is.
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  Speaker 2: The first time we cracked a trillion dollars in spending
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  Speaker 2: was around nineteen eighty three. By the time Obama got
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: into office, we were looking at we had more than
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: doubled it. It was one point nine trillion dollars by 2008.
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  Speaker 2: It's currently. So hang on, let me get to it
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: right now. It is currently at five point one trillion.
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  Speaker 2: So since Barack Obama instituted the Affordable Care Act, we
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: have more than doubled the cost of health care. And they're, again,
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  Speaker 2: blaming the Republicans for this. They broke the system. The
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: system is broken. They cannot be the ones to fix it.
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  Speaker 2: They're the ones who broke it. If I'm the one
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: who broke the lamp, don't ask me to fix the lamp.
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  Speaker 2: unless it's your punishment yeah exactly if i if you
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: give the kid the car and then he drives the
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: car and he blows the motor and all this sort
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: of stuff you don't say well okay let's get you
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: another one or we didn't but we didn't spend enough
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: on it no the problem is the democrat policies they're
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: the ones that are driving up health care costs the
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: republicans need to do a better job of messaging and
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: fighting that but ultimately it's the democrat policies that are
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Crushing health care costs and making not just the health
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: care costs unaffordable for everybody, but also shrinking the ability
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: to have access to doctors. That is continuing to be
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: a problem in America as well. If you agree or disagree,
• 1:15:57
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• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: It's 846.
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  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 1:16:05
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  Speaker 2: My name is Kelly Nash, and I feel like that
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: guy who does the get out of your timeshare commercials.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: I am not a lawyer. And so, obviously, I've never
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: heard of a Tui Rodriguez charge. Are you familiar with that, Christopher?
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  Speaker 3: Just by reading the Lindsay Clancy saga from yesterday, yes.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, the judge has issued the Tui Rodriguez charge, which
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: urges jurors to carefully reconsider their positions while making clear
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: they should not abandon honestly held beliefs. This is the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: final step before the case can end in a mistrial.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: So he had to issue the Tui Rodriguez charge to
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: the jury yesterday. If there's going to be a mistrial.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: So apparently that is on the table for today. Nancy
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Mace tweets out the hot take.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: Yesterday, which Nancy Mace or Nancy Grace.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: Nancy Mace.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: If postpartum mental illness becomes a get out of jail
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: free card for murdering your children, then by logic, anyone
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: diagnosed with postpartum mental illness, should lose immediate custody of
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: their children. Ooh, okay. So that is, now that is,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: who's going to push back on that?
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  Speaker 3: It's a dangerous precedent.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If you're saying that this is a logical conclusion to
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: somebody with postpartum depression, is that they murder their children,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: then I happen to agree with Nancy Mace on this.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Then once you are diagnosed with it, you lose access
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: to your kids until you overcome the postpartum depression. But
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: this is dividing the country, Christopher. We have people fighting
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: on all sides of the aisle here.
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  Speaker 3: And it's hard to believe that the jury has had
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: it this long and can't come to a decision. But
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: I guess that shows the divide, not only in the nation,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: but right there in that jury room. And, you know,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: God bless the prosecution if they're going to have to
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: go through this all. I don't see how you can't
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: try her again, though. If this goes down as a mistrial,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: how can you not retry her?
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  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: And, you know, little side note, not that I want
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: to become known as the sexist, but there are nine
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: females on this jury, which seems a bit much. Typically,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: they try to go about, you know, half and half,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: but they didn't here. They went nine and three. And
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: so does that factor into it? There'll be books written
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: about this, documentaries done, and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever the result is, whether they find her guilty, whether
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: they say she's not guilty by reason of insanity, if
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: there's a mistrial, whatever, this is going to be one
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: of those things that's talked about for years to come
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: and probably will be retried over and over again, kind
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: of like what we're doing here with Murdaugh. Do we
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: have any updates on him? I haven't seen anything lately.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: Not, no, not in the last couple of weeks.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: So did they set the trial? like where it's going
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: to be?
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  Speaker 3: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: We still don't even have that.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: The judge is still studying all the different venues.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: Is he going to die of old age before we
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: actually get back to the trial?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: No, it's, I mean, it's still going to happen in
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  Speaker 3: April of next year.
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  Speaker 2: April of next year. Yes.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: So Every spring we have ourselves a Murdoch trial. So
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: we got that to look forward to. But anyway, yeah,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what the jury comes back with today.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Suddenly I'm like all of a sudden about like court
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: TV and stuff. You know, you've got the you got
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: that trial. You had Tiger Woods yesterday change his plea
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: to guilty. Or I don't know if I said maybe guilty.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: I think it was more of no contest is what
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: he pled, which gives him the five year suspended sentence.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: We've got the pastor. Did he murder his wife? You've
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: been watching the documentary. You were our court reporter on
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: that one.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: You're the only one who watched the documentary.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: Well, there are people who've studied that case a lot
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: more closely than I have.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe they'll use the talkback feature and give us
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: their impression on the Myrtle Beach pastor trial. But there's
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: a lot going on in the court world and politics.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Of course, Glenn Beck and then Clayton Buck and then
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: Sean Hannity will get you through the day with all
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: that info and more. We'll be back tomorrow after 6.