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Joshua Smith | Bitcoin Fixes Politics | Simply Bitcoin IRL · Simply Bitcoin

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  Hello everybody. Welcome to another episode of
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  Simply Bitcoin IRL. Today we have a very special
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  guest. We have Joshua Smith who's
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  running for president in 2024. Boy oh boy, are things spicing
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  All right, everybody, no more delay.
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  Let's bring up Joshua on stage. Joshua, you came.
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  Highly recommended by a fellow member of Simply Bitcoin, our
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  boy Ruston, who apparently you were on stage with the other
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  day. Rustin's a super fan and we're
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  super honored and humbled to have you on the show today.
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  How you doing? Yeah, absolutely.
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  Thank you so much for having me. I'm, I'm excited to be here and
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  I'm a big fan of Rustin too. That man has the best podcast
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  voice I've ever heard in my life.
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  Absolutely, he does, right. I keep hearing that over and
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  over again. Rustin does have the best
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  podcast voice. We're super, super happy he's on
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  on the Simply Bitcoin team. So man, you're running for
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  president as a Libertarian candidate.
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  I'm going to ask you a very blunt question.
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  Doesn't the Libertarian candidate take away votes from
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  the from the, let's say, And again, like in the traditional
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  Fiat political sense, you could make the argument that
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  conservative, the traditional conservatives and libertarians
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  have more in common than let's say the left wing side of
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  things. Right?
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  Wouldn't you say that the Libertarian candidate takes
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  votes away from the traditional conservative aspects of things?
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  Well, geez, I sure hope so. Let's, let's let's start there.
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  I, you know look these these. Unit parties, the Democrats and
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  Republicans, they're so deeply entrenched in their that's what
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  they are. Yeah, it's a unit party.
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  And and you know, my, my goal is to reach the 51% of the
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  population that didn't vote for a president in 2020 and didn't
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  vote for a president in 2016 because those are my people.
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  Those are the people that are done with this Fiat unit party
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  system that that you know, has no real authority outside of
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  what we decide they have. And so, you know, my my goal is
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  to reach the the Remnant and not so much the the Conservatives.
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  But I, I, you know, I, I, I challenge any Conservative to to
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  walk away from the Uniparty and start voting for people who
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  actually, you know, have your morals and values at heart and
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  not someone who's just campaigning.
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  To to win an election and then do whatever they want to do and
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  put their pet projects out of the world and voice death and
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  destruction on countries around the world for years to come.
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  You know, we're we're we're different.
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  You know at the end of the day that, you know, I I'm very
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  conservative in my personal life.
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  But when it comes down to the libertarian values, I live them
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  everyday, you know, and I think that.
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  You know, this Bitcoin community especially lives those values.
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  There's no doubt about that. A decentralized currency that
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  circumvents the federal government, I mean, can't get
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  much more libertarian than that. And so, you know, my goal is to
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  reach the Remnant. Like I said, it's not just to to
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  go after conservatives and but the more that walk away from
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  that that corrupt terrible system the better.
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  Yeah, 100%. So I agree with that.
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  I I think that there is definitely Uniparty without a
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  shadow of a doubt. I think the last 3-4 years have
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  clearly shown that. But one thing as, as, as as
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  bitcoiners that we've come to this conclusion is that like
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  people still seem to be hell bent on the, you know, I'm
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  voting Democrat, I'm voting Republican because they're
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  essentially what they are. Is two sides of the same coin,
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  really. Yeah, I try.
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  I try to explain it to people like this.
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  Every single bad policy that's ever been passed in your entire
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  lifetime has had bipartisan support.
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  It's the only way it gets through the House and Senate and
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  and eventually through the executive branch.
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  It's all, you know, party bullshit.
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  It's it's absolutely, 100% bipartisan support for the worst
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  policies. The warfare state, the Federal
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  Reserve, the monetary system, the the welfare system, the the
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  family law system, All of the worst policies have bipartisan
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  support every time. So why would we keep doing the
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  same thing? It doesn't make any sense
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  exactly, and I completely agree, and I think Bitcoiners
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  fundamentally agree, which is our audience.
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  But how do we in in in our, in our business, we call it
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  breaking the Bitcoin echo chamber, right?
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  Really getting people to wake up.
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  How do you get people to wake up and you know to, to quote the
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  name of your show, break the cycle that that, you know we
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  keep to seem repeating and repeating and repeating,
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  repeating. Is it something where it's like
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  these parties are just too powerful that it's very, very
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  difficult to win as a third party candidate?
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  Well I think the the opposite is true.
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  It's you know I I have a lot of friends that are that are
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  Republicans and conservatives and they you know, they're
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  constantly telling me you need to join the Republican Party so
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  that we can change it from the inside.
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  And I contend that the the corruption is so deeply
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  entrenched that you will never change the Republican Party.
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  The money goes too far the the Fiat dollars go too far it you'd
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  have a better chance of being a single person trying to change
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  the NYPD from the from the inside.
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  So I contend that the only way we're ever going to change the
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  country is from outside these parties.
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  And a lot of people, you know, might disagree with me.
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  But the truth, the matter is, is that no matter what these people
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  say, when you vote for him, you get John McCain every single
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  time. It's the same over and over.
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  It doesn't matter what party it is.
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  And they may have some social differences and some cultural
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  differences. You know when we talk about
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  like, you know, some people have these social like issues with
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  the trans community or the the LGBT community or the the Antifa
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  community or like all these different communities, right?
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  They may, they may differ on some policy there, but at the
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  end of the day they always find support for the wars.
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  They always find support for the the Fiat machine and they they
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  always find support for taxes. And so the the way to change it,
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  in my opinion, the only way is is, you know, the Libertarian
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  Party first of all, has not been.
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  Very bold and brave. For a long time I probably, I'd
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  say since Harry Brown in 2000, we've been running people like
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  Bob Barr and Gary Johnson and Joe Jorgensen.
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  And these people are kind of milk toast and don't really, you
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  know, they don't reach out to a lot of communities like the
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  Bitcoin community or you know, the the gun community.
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  They just kind of do this like we're almost like the uniparty,
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  but just a little bit different. You know, we want to do a fair
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  tax and we want to do this. It's they they never come out
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  and go boldly and bravely say the things that need to be said.
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  And I think that that's how we reach the.
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  Remnant, I really do. I think that's how we reach the
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  Freedom lovers is be that bold, brash candidate that's like,
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  look, we're going to get rid of 70% of the federal workforce on
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  day one. And we're going to, we're going
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  to, you know, level the ATF building and build a dog park, a
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  memorial dog park. And we're going to, you know,
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  we're going to put Ron Paul in charge of the Federal Reserve.
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  And we're, you know what I mean these these are the things that
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  can can actually change the system.
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  And we need somebody that's actually talking about those
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  things and not saying, Oh well, just a fair tax, just a little
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  tax. We'll let you keep a little bit
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  more. Borrow your money.
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  Like what kind of Libertarian candidate first of all says
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  we'll let you keep. OK that's not how this works
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  when you're a Libertarian, it's you will keep all of your money.
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  We're not going to let you do anything And so you know I think
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  it's. I think it's the messaging has a
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  lot to do with it. It's been really milk toast and
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  and not brave and not bold for a long time.
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  And I I contend that I'm the bold and brave guy that's going
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  to get us more of a percentage than we've gotten in the last
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  several elections at least. So what would you say about the
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  rise of the, you know, the populist movement on the left
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  and on the right, really? Well, that's the that's the
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  problem. Oh, go ahead.
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  Sorry, I thought you were done. Yeah.
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  So, like, what would you say about that?
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  Right. Like on the right, I think it's
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  the America First, right? You have people like Matt Gates
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  that are not taking money from super PAC's, et cetera, et
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  cetera. And on the left, you have
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  something very, very similar, right.
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  You see you're seeing the rise of populism and I think people
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  are sick and tired of this like Uniparty aspect of things.
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  I think it was historical that the speaker, you know, got
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  ousted, essentially. I think if my memory serves me
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  correctly, that's never happened in American history.
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  So like, clearly, like people are seeing the, you know, people
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  are seeing the cracks, so to speak, or else all this
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  political upheaval wouldn't be happening.
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  And so, like you're the case that you're trying to make
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  though is that even with, you know, people like Matt Gaetz
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  that are not taking money from super PAC's working within the
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  party, even the legendary Ron Paul, he he ran as a Republican,
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  right? You still believe that the way
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  to go is through a third party? I believe it's a it's a movement
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  from outside of the unit party. Absolutely that I do believe
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  that 100%. And I will say this, I love Ron
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  Paul. Ron Paul is my my hero.
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  The the man is who got me politically involved.
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  I worked on his campaign in O 8. That's why I'm here today.
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  He endorsed me for chairman of the Libertarian National
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  Committee in 2020. The man is a hero to anybody who
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  likes freedom and liberty. You can't.
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  You can't trash this man. But he wasn't able to accomplish
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  much of anything in Congress. He was able to stand on the
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  bully pulpit and use that to make new freedom lovers and
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  liberty lovers. And the same with his son.
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  He hasn't been able to accomplish a whole lot.
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  And Thomas Massie, who we all love.
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  Wasn't able to hasn't been able to accomplish a lot in fact he
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  just he just got his amendment basically shot down to make it
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  so that you know the the government can't require that we
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  have a kill switch in our cars after 2028.
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  That's insane to think about. Like the government can just
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  kill your car if they think you're driving impaired that's
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  crazy. So like it's not like they've
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  gotten a lot done in these positions and and Matt Gaetz for
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  for all of his, you know, great work that he has done.
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  You know he's he's totally simping for the the Israeli
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  lobby now and then talking about you know, we have to go and
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  protect, you know Israel and Palestine and and you know it's
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  another forever for war. It's another it's another John
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  McCain. That's what's going to happen.
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  That's what always happens with these people.
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  It's Lindsey Graham and John McCain and George Bush all over
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  again. But I do believe that you used
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  the word there that I think is actually very important is
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  populism. And you know, this, this term,
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  populism, it gets like a bad Rep.
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  Especially in liberty circles, right.
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  But the the truth of the matter is populism is just speaking to
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  people who aren't the elite. That's really all it is.
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  And for all of his faults, Donald Trump was very good at
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  this. He was very good at speaking to
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  the people who felt harmed really, really well.
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  He was able to speak just like they wanted him to speak.
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  And you know, he got into office, of course didn't drain
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  any swamp, surrounded himself with swamped in in any wars,
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  probably passed the most gun legislation since George Bush.
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  I mean, you know, it's, it's. It's a populist message, but not
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  a populist deliverance, right. And so I think populism is
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  important. I think people like need to
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  learn about this culture war and the populism and why it's
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  important to speak to the not elite, because the elite, you
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  know, they're the ones with all the money, but the the people
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  are the ones with all the power. Should you get them amped up
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  enough to to get you get you into those positions.
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  So populism isn't a dirty word. I just want to make that very
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  clear. I don't think it's a dirty word.
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  I just think it's the the way that it's used is very
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  important. Yeah.
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  OK. OK.
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  OK. So, all right.
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  So, so we have a lot of things in common.
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  Obviously as a Libertarian, you know, as a Libertarian candidate
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  you obviously or I'm assuming you're a big fan of Austrian
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  economics. How what's your stance on
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  Bitcoin, my friend? Because it is the the the
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  reality is that by the day the amount of of you know Americans
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  holding Bitcoin continues to grow, right.
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  We've seen on the Democratic side RFK Junior and on the
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  Republican side Ron DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswami, you know
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  playing to that saying look we're gonna protect your right
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  to self custody all that stuff etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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  What would your response be? How do you feel about Bitcoin,
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  Joshua? Well, I'm a Bitcoin maximalist.
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  First of all. I just want to make that very
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  clear. I I started investing.
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  Do you take self custody? 50 I have not yet and I know
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  that a lot of people are going to.
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  Yes, I know a lot of people are going to.
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  But I would protect self custody.
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  There's no doubt and I I've talked very heavily about how I
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  would get rid of chain analysis for the federal government.
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  I would make sure that the IRS cannot cannot legally track
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  transactions. You know obviously we the the
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  President has the opportunity to appoint the board of the SEC and
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  the CFDA and all these other or agencies that can regulate the
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  stuff. And so you know we put together
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  some really great people that would that would chair those
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  boards and and become the committees for for those boards.
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  And you know my my thought on Bitcoin is that you know this
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  dream of mass adoption is a very important one and something that
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  we can do if we speak to people in a way that doesn't scare
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  them. And I think the federal
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  government currently is trying to scare people.
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  And I want to be clear, I started I started adopting a
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  long time ago but I I played the shit coins for quite some time.
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  I I've already gone through that phase.
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  It's been several years now, but I, I, I came to the point where
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  I realized that the the framework of Bitcoin and and you
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  know the what it means to freedom is very, very important.
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  And you know it should be the one coin that you absolutely
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  invest in And because it's not to me it's not it's no longer
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  about like making money Fiat dollars off of Bitcoin.
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  It's about becoming the next currency and so.
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  You know, I I think that any presidential candidate that's
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  not talking about protecting these things isn't worth his
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  weight in salt. Because, you know, the central
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  banking system and I, I say this, you know a lot that the
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  Federal Reserve especially is a giant counterfeiting machine
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  that steals your wealth through a tax called inflation and the
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  central banking system and not just in America, worldwide.
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  It's not about, you know, if it's going to fail, it's about
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  when it's unsustainable. They're literally.
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  Devaluing your dollar at a rapid rate.
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  They're rapidly, you know, getting rid of the middle class.
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  So you want to, you want to, you want to end the Federal Reserve?
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  Of course I want to end the Federal Reserve now.
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  Now that's another thing too. And now you have my attention,
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  Joshua. Well and here and here's so
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  here's the the central banking system is absolutely detrimental
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  to freedom in in the world but especially in the United States
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  and but here's the thing and and I'm very logical when I speak
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  about my policies because. You know, a lot of libertarian
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  candidates come in and they're like we're going to abolish the
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  ATF and we're going to abolish the IRS and we're going to
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  abolish the the the Federal Reserve and we're going to get
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  rid of the Department of Education.
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  The truth of the matter is that the the the president does not
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  have the power to do these things.
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  It's not, it's not something the president does.
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  It takes an act of Congress. But what we can do is the the
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  the president actually. Gets to appoint the Federal
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  Reserve chair. And so my goal is and also we
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  looked into some new laws too with my policy team where we
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  actually get to direct the treasury as well.
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  And so you know that the goal would be to get somebody Ron
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  Paul minded into the in the Federal Reserve.
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  I say Ron Paul is like a tribute.
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  I doubt Ron Paul's going to take that job at 87 years old, but if
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  he would we would. But somebody that's going to go
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  in there with their baseball bat and start taking the walls down,
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  essentially we're going to direct the treasury to take no
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  more Fiat dollars from the from the federal.
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  Reserve no more money printing. We're done with that.
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  But but here's The thing is my my view of Bitcoin is that it's
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  such a good framework already for people when the central
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  banking system does come down that they won't feel the blood
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  that people who don't own Bitcoin will feel.
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  Because you've already got this framework that's set, you know,
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  this decentralized, like I said, decentralized currency that
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  circumvents the federal government.
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  You, you already have this opportunity to to make yourself,
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  you know, wealthy. Essentially and and you know
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  when when we get into an alternative currency system,
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  you're going to be at the top of the food chain.
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  And so that's a very important thing to me and I and I think
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  that we need politicians that are talking about this.
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  In effect, you can look it up on bitcoin.com.
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  They wrote an article about about me in 2017.
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  So I've been talking about crypto and politics for quite
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  some time now 6-7 years. But I I've been trying to bring
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  this movement to the liberty movement for so long because it
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  it's, you know, it's young people, they're they're very
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  wealthy. They hate the government.
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  The government's coming after their assets.
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  Like we have to have stand up as a movement and I think they have
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  a political outlet for that to have a a spearhead and A and
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  somebody who's actually trying to work on policy for real, I
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  think that's really important. So yeah, I want the Federal
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  Reserve gone, but I know that these these agencies and and the
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  reserve and the Fed and these things like as the president
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  there's legal. There's like a legal length that
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  I can go to, like I can get rid of 70% of the workforce in these
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  federal agencies, right? Which is great if we get rid of
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  70. 7075% of the of the the FBI at least then we can get them
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  focused back on like you know Interstate sex trafficking and
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  Interstate serial killers and like the things they were
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  created to to to look out for. And then if we get them down
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  small enough and there's a there's a really good case to be
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  made that they don't need to be there anymore.
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  At least the president can go to the Congress and say, hey, look
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  at this, this agency. We don't need it anymore.
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  We need you guys to start thinking about getting rid of
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  it. And of course anything that's
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  unconstitutional in the in America, of course, most of the
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  monetary policy, a lot of these agencies, a lot of the laws on
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  the books, a lot of the regulation, stuff like that.
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  I'm able to, as a president go to the Supreme Court and ask
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  them to take up as well. So those things, those are all
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  the things that I would do. If should should America be
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  crazy enough to put a libertarian in the White House?
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  That's what I would do. But you know, we are not under
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  any illusion. Why do you say that?
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  Why do you say it if if Americans are crazy enough to
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  put a libertarian in the Is it really that crazy?
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  Look at what's happening in Argentina, bro.
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  Yeah, exactly. And I love Javier Malay.
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  He's he that man is an absolute beacon of hope for every liberty
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  lover in the in the world. Because the the South America is
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  showing us right now, today, what happens when you hit rock
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  bottom. OK.
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  And that's what happened. I mean, you look at El Salvador
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  using Bitcoin as legal tender. You look at Javier Malay and
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  Argentina, they're showing us what happens when you take this
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  socialist system and and take it down to the lowest level and
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  forget about the entire working class, right?
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  That's what happens. That's your, that's your, that's
• 18:23
  what you get back in return is you get a Javier Malay saying,
• 18:26
  you know what, You're all shit F your mother.
• 18:29
  We're coming and taking this thing over and he's actually
• 18:31
  winning. You know what I mean?
• 18:32
  And so like. So like that's what I want to
• 18:34
  see in the United States too. And we need to be that same
• 18:37
  mentality, that same like bold, brash, exciting, young, like
• 18:42
  economically and freedom focused mentality.
• 18:44
  And I think that that's what we're bringing to the table.
• 18:46
  But I do say crazy enough as a tongue in cheek thing, of course
• 18:49
  Americans, we're not under any illusion that Americans are
• 18:52
  going to put us in office next year.
• 18:53
  We're not. We want that to happen.
• 18:55
  We're going to run like that's going to happen.
• 18:56
  We're going to try and convert as many people as humanly
• 18:58
  possible. But it's also A50 state media
• 19:01
  tour, right? If you get into the general
• 19:03
  election, I'll be on the ballot in at least 49 states.
• 19:05
  New York is iffy. I'll be on the ballot at least
• 19:08
  49 states. We'll get on a bunch of the big
• 19:09
  shows. We'll probably be on Rogan and.
• 19:11
  At PBD and all these really big shows, we have the opportunity
• 19:15
  to talk about these policies and how they're hurting the American
• 19:17
  working class and the middle class.
• 19:19
  We have an opportunity to talk about Bitcoin.
• 19:21
  We have the opportunity to talk about a Federal Reserve in an
• 19:24
  exciting way, not in a drone on and on academic way, but in an
• 19:27
  exciting way that this is a counterfeiting machine that is
• 19:29
  stealing your wealth. You know how How's the reception
• 19:32
  been? Because that's one of the
• 19:33
  hardest things that we've encountered as bitcoiners,
• 19:36
  right? Is that like one of the things?
• 19:40
  It was Natalie Burnell and she asked Michael Saylor on the Coin
• 19:44
  Stories podcast. And she asked him what is the
• 19:47
  thing that keeps you the most up awake at night?
• 19:50
  And he said people just don't care about sound money.
• 19:53
  And in my experience, you know, other than like my at this point
• 19:57
  I don't really have non Bitcoiner friends cuz I just
• 20:00
  we're we're we're talking and operating on on a different
• 20:04
  wavelength. But, but yeah, man, I what I see
• 20:07
  with most normies is that they're so distracted with the
• 20:10
  bread and circuses. You know, I think with the
• 20:14
  Javier Miley, that was a really big wake up call to me because
• 20:18
  if you think about what happened, right, the fact that
• 20:21
  he didn't win, I know it's going to run off and the polls are
• 20:24
  getting close. But he didn't win flat out and
• 20:27
  people willingly chose to elect the party back into power.
• 20:33
  That was the cause of more than 100% inflation because they
• 20:39
  wanted the subsidized bus tickets.
• 20:42
  Like what I'm looking at is this is a this is a very deep rooted
• 20:48
  cultural issue that if we don't address as bitcoiners, as
• 20:53
  libertarians, but I think they're never going to change.
• 20:56
  I think people shy away from personal responsibility if they
• 21:00
  had a choice between big Daddy government, please take care of
• 21:04
  me and I'm going to just take care of myself.
• 21:08
  I think we have to face the reality that a lot of people are
• 21:12
  willing just to go with the police, take care of me.
• 21:15
  And that that's the disconnect that I see with a lot of
• 21:18
  bitcoiners and a lot of libertarians is that some people
• 21:21
  just want to, it's really, it's a really tough pill to swallow,
• 21:24
  but some people just want to be swallow, some people just want
• 21:27
  to be governed. So my question to you is,
• 21:29
  Joshua, like what? Like how do we move that?
• 21:32
  How do we change that? How do we really wake up people
• 21:35
  to that, that harsh reality that look, you might be taking the
• 21:39
  government's money, but in the long term it's going to be
• 21:42
  horrible for you. It's going to be horrible for
• 21:44
  your kids and your kids, kids and your grandkids, etcetera,
• 21:48
  etcetera, etcetera. And I think that's the important
• 21:51
  message to, to the American public, right?
• 21:53
  It's like, like if you're 40, I'm 40, I just turned 40 in
• 21:56
  March. If you're 40 today, you're not
• 21:58
  retiring, you're working till you're 90.
• 22:00
  Your, your kids and your grandkids are being stolen from
• 22:03
  today. Right now.
• 22:04
  Their futures are gone. And and that's the important
• 22:07
  message because because we're not at rock bottom yet in
• 22:10
  America. It's crazy to say that we're not
• 22:13
  at rock bottom. When we hit rock bottom,
• 22:16
  everyone will wake up, they'll start waking up because they'll
• 22:18
  have nothing left. They'll be in and they'll be in
• 22:20
  bread lines, right? And.
• 22:22
  And so we have to communicate that we're headed to the bread
• 22:26
  line right now. And I think that that's really
• 22:27
  important. But we have to do it in a non
• 22:29
  stuffy way, right? Like we can't have some 90 year
• 22:32
  old or 70 year old academic up there like droning on and on
• 22:36
  boringly to people. And that's that's the problem,
• 22:38
  right? It's like especially the
• 22:40
  libertarian movement is like. We have so many of these great,
• 22:43
  amazing, very smart academics that know every single in and
• 22:47
  out of policy and history and economics and all these great
• 22:51
  things, right? But they just drone on and on
• 22:53
  and on. Like Murray Rothbard, who I
• 22:54
  love. Murray Rothbard's one of my
• 22:56
  absolute heroes. He's who?
• 22:57
  He actually radicalized me in full, right?
• 23:01
  But nobody's going to listen to Murray Rothbard outside of these
• 23:04
  circles. And so we need somebody that is
• 23:06
  a working class, blue collar person like me who gets up every
• 23:09
  morning and puts on my work boots and goes to work like a
• 23:11
  normal human being. And it's felt the the, the
• 23:13
  weight and the sting of all of these these policies that are
• 23:16
  hurting, you know, normal everyday people and let them
• 23:19
  know that like, hey man, you like what you're doing right
• 23:21
  now. You like how it feels to be
• 23:23
  working this hard. Three jobs can't buy a house. 8%
• 23:26
  inflation. You want to start a family, but
• 23:28
  you're worried about starting a family.
• 23:29
  We need somebody that can communicate that all of that
• 23:31
  stuff is being taken away because what they're doing with
• 23:34
  your dollar today, with your, with your Fiat dollar, with
• 23:36
  your, you know, they're taking, they're inflating, they're using
• 23:39
  every single piece of what you have to fight wars around the
• 23:42
  world to continue their pet projects.
• 23:45
  I mean, we have to be able to communicate that to people.
• 23:47
  That's the only way it's going to work.
• 23:49
  And you know, the the Republicans and Democrats just
• 23:51
  aren't doing it. They're not doing it.
• 23:52
  And that's why I keep talking about the Uniparty and why I say
• 23:54
  it can only be changed from the outside.
• 23:56
  Because. Look there I have no, I have no
• 23:58
  special interests, right? Like there's no corporate
• 24:00
  interests in my in my campaign. There's no APAC money coming in
• 24:04
  that you know that we're all a a complete grassroots
• 24:07
  organization, all individual unique donors people that are
• 24:12
  that are like ready to see a system change.
• 24:14
  And there's a lot of them out there.
• 24:15
  There's a lot of people like that.
• 24:16
  But we have to reach them and and we can't just drone on and
• 24:19
  on about boring stuff to these people or they'll never get
• 24:21
  reached. And so I think that an exciting
• 24:23
  40 something year old candidate that gets up and puts on.
• 24:26
  You know, the boots and does the things and raises the family and
• 24:29
  and isn't involved in these things and has been hurt by
• 24:32
  these policies. That's how that's how we reach
• 24:34
  them. I really believe that, I truly
• 24:35
  do. And whether it's me or somebody
• 24:37
  in 2028 after we set up a stage for a bigger run, it's going to
• 24:40
  happen. We're going to do it because
• 24:41
  people are getting fed up. Yeah, people are getting fed up.
• 24:44
  I I, I completely agree. I think it's become very, very
• 24:47
  obvious that just people were sick and tired of the truly it's
• 24:51
  the endless wars that are that are paid for by, you know, the
• 24:55
  Fiat money printer. And shout out to Ron Paul, you
• 24:59
  know the OG libertarian really pointing this out, that famous
• 25:05
  video of him basically prophesizing exactly what was
• 25:09
  going to happen if the United States invaded Iraq.
• 25:12
  Absolute legend. That guy was a bitcoiner before
• 25:14
  Bitcoin even existed. Oh, big time.
• 25:17
  Yeah. So OK, So you wanna end the Fed?
• 25:21
  That makes me happy. You haven't taken self custody.
• 25:23
  That doesn't make me happy. You gotta.
• 25:25
  I know. I know, I know.
• 25:26
  I saw Ruston in the comments saying we gotta, we gotta get
• 25:28
  you, we gotta fix that. Yeah, I know, but that's that's
• 25:32
  easy these days. There's so many great products.
• 25:35
  But OK, so if you end the Fed, what do you replace it with?
• 25:45
  Nothing, and that's your question.
• 25:47
  OK. That's a great answer.
• 25:48
  Yeah nothing there there there's no reason whatsoever that the
• 25:51
  the I'm so anti central planning in general like and and you know
• 25:57
  I say that Murray Rothbard radicalized me but one of the
• 25:59
  first books that really got me interested in in central
• 26:03
  planning was was FA Hayek's The Road to Serfdom right and like.
• 26:08
  There's so many dangers involved with central planning but people
• 26:10
  just accept it as the norm. Like this is just how central
• 26:13
  planning is and and and so I don't want to replace with
• 26:16
  anything. I want it replaced with Bitcoin
• 26:18
  really is what I'd like to see. But any kind of alternative
• 26:21
  market whatsoever where people I don't care if people trade
• 26:24
  chickens and Roosters and goats and stuff like I just want the
• 26:27
  federal government out of our money.
• 26:29
  You know, I, I, you know that I hear this quote a lot.
• 26:32
  I see this quote a lot. I've said this quote a lot.
• 26:33
  Javier has said this this quote as well.
• 26:36
  But you know, you fix the money, you fix the.
• 26:38
  World right. And that's really what it is, is
• 26:40
  the federal government having their hands in these things is
• 26:42
  ruining, absolutely destroying our our our trade power our
• 26:46
  purchasing power our dollars our money and and they're doing it
• 26:50
  on purpose. And so I don't want to I don't
• 26:53
  want the federal government in the the currency market anymore.
• 26:56
  I want them completely out of it And I want people to be able to
• 26:59
  trade freely with whatever they feel like they want to trade
• 27:02
  with. But I do believe that you know,
• 27:03
  in my opinion, the best, the best source of that's going to
• 27:06
  be Bitcoin 100% and what? How do you feel about legal
• 27:09
  tender? Laws, I I think that we should
• 27:12
  get rid of those too. And and so it's it's funny
• 27:16
  because I know that you know some people you know say well
• 27:19
  you can make Bitcoin legal tender, you know, but I I just
• 27:22
  want the government out of it. I want all the regulations off
• 27:24
  the money market entirely. I want banks to operate
• 27:27
  independently. I don't want the federal
• 27:29
  government backing banks up. I want them to have their own
• 27:31
  private insurance like, and we can't do any of that with the
• 27:34
  government constantly involved in this stuff, so.
• 27:37
  I just want them out. All of it gone.
• 27:39
  I don't know that I can do that as the president.
• 27:41
  That's the other thing too, right?
• 27:43
  And and we talked about this. I can't just abolish the
• 27:45
  Treasury. I can't just abolish every
• 27:47
  single committee that regulates these things.
• 27:49
  Right? I can't just abolish the Federal
• 27:50
  Reserve. But we can get in there and hack
• 27:52
  away at it for sure. And and you know, I have a
• 27:54
  great. A great team of advisors and
• 27:57
  policy people already, and in fact, Mike Hobart just joined
• 28:00
  recently to talk about Bitcoin and energy, which is something
• 28:02
  that is not. I still somewhat foreign to me,
• 28:05
  but I know that it's it's an important topic to talk about.
• 28:08
  And so there's some really great people that are like, hey, these
• 28:11
  are the laws that we can't, we can get in and start chipping at
• 28:14
  right away. And that's what I would do.
• 28:15
  I mean, if we won, I would take all my economics friends that
• 28:18
  have been on this campaign, all my Bitcoin friends have been on
• 28:20
  this campaign and say, hey, what?
• 28:22
  Let's sit down. Let's figure out everything that
• 28:24
  we can get rid of today and then what we can start chipping away
• 28:27
  at later. And that's that's what we do.
• 28:29
  That's the total plan when it comes to the monetary policy in
• 28:31
  the United States. That's it.
• 28:32
  It's freedom, Austrian Bitcoin economics guys that are ready to
• 28:37
  go in there and and help me do this stuff.
• 28:39
  Hell yeah, 100%. And what would you say?
• 28:42
  And I and I actually tweeted this out the other day, 'cause
• 28:44
  I, I I believe in the way that you phrase the unit party
• 28:48
  aspects. I I do believe that both
• 28:51
  parties. It's really not left versus
• 28:54
  right, Republican versus Democrat.
• 28:56
  It's really individualism versus collectivism.
• 28:59
  And I think the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are
• 29:02
  just another form of collectivism.
• 29:04
  They truly are. I think the Libertarian Party
• 29:08
  and bitcoiners really represent individualism.
• 29:12
  But I what I tweeted the other day was basically, I don't
• 29:15
  believe that without a Bitcoin standard, I think individualism
• 29:21
  will lose to collectivism every single time.
• 29:24
  Yes, that. 'D be an interesting.
• 29:26
  That'd be an interesting debate for sure, and and something that
• 29:28
  I'd be. I'd be happy to have after some
• 29:31
  more research. For sure you would want.
• 29:33
  You would. You would want to keep the
• 29:35
  dollar, no. No, no.
• 29:37
  I don't want to keep the dollar at all.
• 29:38
  No, OK. No, no, you're talking about the
• 29:40
  OPEC dollar and we can, we can talk about the OPEC dollar if
• 29:42
  you want. No, I I definitely do not want
• 29:44
  Fiat and and the OPEC dollar in the United States.
• 29:47
  In fact, I've been working with a guy.
• 29:49
  Part of this policy team and especially energy but he's a
• 29:51
  he's an economist he he did his whole thesis like 8 years he
• 29:54
  wrote this out about how we could get off the OPEC dollar
• 29:58
  entirely and and you know it's it's something that still I'm
• 30:01
  looking a lot into. But he he said we can
• 30:03
  essentially take like 400 Gen. 4 nuclear reactors, which are the
• 30:09
  small reactors and it would power the entire country of
• 30:11
  America with a surplus and and he said we could start
• 30:14
  outsourcing. Power to other countries we
• 30:18
  could battery battery sell battery bank they build them
• 30:21
  battery banks bring them power and then we would be the the
• 30:24
  world's power when it comes to to energy and and you know we'd
• 30:28
  start getting paid that's how we can pay down our national debt
• 30:30
  and all this stuff but I'm not an you know I I'm an Austrian
• 30:32
  economics guy but I'm not an economist by any means but no
• 30:35
  I'm I'm we have got to get away entirely from from the OPEC
• 30:39
  dollar at at some point it's going to be worth nothing and we
• 30:42
  see it with bricks now right like bricks is is.
• 30:45
  Is getting completely off the the OPEC dollar.
• 30:47
  They are not beholden to it anymore and they're and they're
• 30:50
  building this coalition of countries, right, Russia and
• 30:53
  China and and Iran and like all these countries that we're
• 30:56
  talking about going to war with surprisingly are are getting
• 30:59
  involved in this stuff because they don't want to be a part.
• 31:01
  They won't want to be beholden to this, this OPEC dollar
• 31:03
  anymore because it just funds all the worst stuff in the
• 31:06
  world. So no, I do not want to keep the
• 31:08
  dollar at all. I I want to get completely away
• 31:10
  from it and and I would very much like to.
• 31:14
  I would like to see everybody mass adopt Bitcoin.
• 31:18
  I don't know that that's going to happen in the next 10 years,
• 31:20
  next 20 years, but that's that's the dream I think for everybody,
• 31:23
  right? Like, that's what it You'd like
• 31:24
  to see everybody that possibly can get Sats by Sats today.
• 31:29
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:30
  OK. So end the dollar, replace it
• 31:32
  with a Bitcoin standard. That's what you're saying?
• 31:37
  We could, we could do that. If that's, I mean, if if we look
• 31:40
  at it from an economics perspective, let's go down this
• 31:43
  rabbit hole, then what's tying the United States together today
• 31:49
  is the common denominator of the dollar.
• 31:52
  If you remove the dollar, right, the unity between a state like
• 31:58
  California and Florida, think about it.
• 32:03
  Like what? What?
• 32:04
  What is the unifying thing there?
• 32:06
  Right. If it and and think about all
• 32:08
  the power that stems from DC too, right, that that power
• 32:12
  would be greatly diminished. Have you ever read the book The
• 32:14
  Sovereign Individual? I have not, no.
• 32:16
  OK, no. But I I will say that we need to
• 32:18
  diminish that, that DC power. So I'm looking there.
• 32:21
  It makes the case that essentially Bitcoin would sorry,
• 32:27
  the rise of information technologies, the rise of the
• 32:29
  Internet, would eventually make politics itself obsolete.
• 32:35
  And the reason for that is because the Internet empowers
• 32:39
  the individual, it's disintermediate information.
• 32:41
  Now you don't have to go through legacy media sources which won't
• 32:46
  give you a platform. Now you can just create your own
• 32:48
  platform and now you can choose your own money.
• 32:50
  So over time, essentially what that would do is that would
• 32:53
  empower individuals to not only do their own research, but opt
• 32:57
  in or opt out of certain jurisdictions.
• 33:01
  They just don't seem friendly or not and people would just start
• 33:05
  to leave and go to different locations, right?
• 33:08
  And then that over time what that would do is it would be a
• 33:11
  forcing function where governments would become sort of
• 33:15
  like how they are today, where like they just extract wealth to
• 33:20
  a more business like relationship where people are
• 33:23
  choosing to move to certain jurisdictions because of the
• 33:26
  favorable laws on that. Vote voting with your feet.
• 33:29
  Exactly, exactly. And then we would see an
• 33:31
  acceleration of that right. And then the end goal the the,
• 33:36
  the, the theory of the book essentially is that it would be
• 33:40
  the end of the nation state in in its current form as we know
• 33:45
  it. And I think Bitcoiners, we
• 33:48
  really believe that deep down inside.
• 33:50
  I think libertarians believe that as well.
• 33:52
  I just don't think libertarians had the tools in order to, the
• 33:57
  tool of which is Bitcoin to. It's the most important.
• 34:00
  It's the most important tool. There's no doubt about it.
• 34:02
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 34:04
  And and I don't disagree with you and I you know, I you know I
• 34:06
  I kind of take. In my heart and I'm running for
• 34:09
  president. So I can't go on on you know on
• 34:11
  a national stage and be like, look we're going to have 5000
• 34:14
  Lichtenstein's, right. We're going to give you know
• 34:16
  what. But I I am a national divorce
• 34:18
  fan as well. I think that, you know these
• 34:20
  these cooperating like states that are no longer governed by a
• 34:25
  federal government and and you kind of vote with your feet on
• 34:27
  the policies that you like and you, you take full control over
• 34:31
  your own money and you don't have to worry about the
• 34:33
  government. That's what I want.
• 34:34
  I mean, that's that's really the dream of every libertarian and
• 34:36
  probably Bitcoiner too. So I don't disagree with you.
• 34:40
  If you think the Bitcoin standard would would actually
• 34:43
  accomplish that. I'd be more than happy to to
• 34:45
  work with economists to make sure that that happens.
• 34:47
  But I also would much rather have a Bitcoin standard than the
• 34:51
  OPEC dollar, right? I mean, at at the end of the
• 34:53
  day, it's way, way, way better than anything else going on
• 34:56
  right now. So, yeah.
• 34:59
  Yeah. OK.
• 35:00
  All right. So you have brought up the OPEC
• 35:03
  dollar many, many times. Clearly, it's something that
• 35:05
  you've done research on. Clearly you've you it.
• 35:08
  You find it interesting. What is the OPEC dollar and why
• 35:11
  is it a problem? Let's make them full screen.
• 35:16
  Well, it it it's, it's backed by the oil.
• 35:19
  I mean that's that's what it is and it's, you know, it's part of
• 35:22
  the central banking scheme. And I'm not like I said again
• 35:25
  I'm not an economist by any means but I do know that you
• 35:28
  know if you try to opt out of the OPEC dollar as a country,
• 35:32
  our country might go to war with you which is pretty pretty wild
• 35:35
  to think about And it you know, but I say I say OPEC dollar, but
• 35:38
  really everybody in the in the movement kind of just calls it
• 35:41
  the Fiat dollar right. And and that's probably the
• 35:43
  better, the better way to to market it to the people is
• 35:47
  because when you say OPEC, most people don't have any idea what
• 35:49
  you're saying talking about and and you know it to some extent.
• 35:53
  I don't all the time either so but it is backed by the oil and
• 35:58
  and I think that you know it's a system that we need to get away
• 36:01
  get do away with entirely. So I don't know what's your,
• 36:03
  what's your view on it? I think that the because since
• 36:10
  really the. US $1.00 I like that.
• 36:12
  Sorry, no. Yeah.
• 36:13
  I mean, that's what you'd call it, I think, Since the US won
• 36:17
  World War. Since the US won World War 2,
• 36:21
  and really, like after the Cold War, it became undeniable that
• 36:25
  the US was just the, you know, the global leader.
• 36:28
  And then what tends to happen is when a country becomes the
• 36:31
  global leader, they also have, you know, the world's reserve
• 36:34
  currency. And I think that the US
• 36:36
  government has weaponized that tremendously.
• 36:39
  I think that they've not only hurt the rest of the world who's
• 36:45
  holding dollars on their balance sheet that all the central banks
• 36:48
  around the world, but it's also hurt the most, the lower and
• 36:53
  middle classes of this country to the point where, you know,
• 36:57
  you're seeing these vast wealth inequalities that I don't think
• 37:01
  would be normal in a functioning free market.
• 37:05
  I think they are literally caused by, you know, this, this
• 37:09
  broken money, this broken system.
• 37:12
  And yeah, I mean, like look like look at Cuba, look at North
• 37:15
  Korea. Look at all these, you know, all
• 37:18
  these countries that the US placed sanctions against.
• 37:22
  And you know, the the what they pitched the American people is
• 37:25
  that, oh, it's it's for regime change.
• 37:29
  Right. Cuba and North Korea haven't
• 37:31
  gone anywhere, right? They did the same thing to
• 37:34
  Russia, by the way, Right? They they attacked the Russian
• 37:36
  central bank. Russians aren't going anywhere.
• 37:39
  No, right. Absolutely not.
• 37:41
  So you know, they've, they've weaponized the dollar and the
• 37:44
  biggest victims of dollar weaponization isn't necessarily
• 37:50
  the governments of which they say they're going to attack.
• 37:53
  It's really the people in those countries that get hurt the
• 37:57
  most, right. So yeah, I, I, I'm, I'm not a
• 38:00
  fan of the dollar for that cent in that sense because it's been
• 38:04
  Co opted by the administrative state, it's been Co opted by the
• 38:07
  government for political means and also to pay for themselves
• 38:11
  truly. Yeah, the only time that dollar
• 38:13
  ever hurts, hurts, hurts the government's is when they decide
• 38:17
  they don't want to be a part of that dollar like we've seen with
• 38:20
  Gaddafi and Libya And of course in 1950s when when Iran had
• 38:25
  their, you know, they had their little revolution and got their
• 38:27
  first democratically elected Prime Minister, Mohammad
• 38:30
  Mossadegh. And he decided he was going to
• 38:32
  nationalize the oil and get away from the West and not let them
• 38:35
  you know just take this this oil at such cheap prices and and and
• 38:40
  so Britain's MI 6 and in the United States the CIA basically
• 38:43
  ran a coup in Iran and and took out the the the. 1st Prime
• 38:49
  democratically elected Prime Minister and reinstalled the
• 38:53
  Shah so they could keep getting this oil.
• 38:55
  And that's really where, you know, if you if you think about
• 38:58
  the the Petro dollar or the OPEC or any of that stuff, I mean
• 39:01
  that's, you know, that's just the same thing, right.
• 39:04
  It's just over oil and they and they.
• 39:06
  Basically went in and toppled an entire regime and it reinstalled
• 39:09
  A theological tyrant. And Iran was on their way to
• 39:12
  being like retirees, you know, But so was America.
• 39:15
  So was America, right? At one point we were on our we
• 39:17
  were on our way to being retired at 50 years old with a house and
• 39:20
  babies and grandkids and all that stuff.
• 39:23
  And and Iran was on their way. And if you look at some of these
• 39:25
  pictures prior to, you know, Britain and and America, get
• 39:28
  involved in that way. It's crazy to see the women were
• 39:30
  wearing like, you know, evening gowns and going out and they had
• 39:33
  neon signs and the men wore fedoras and they were driving
• 39:36
  Chevy Bel Airs. And and then all of a sudden,
• 39:38
  you know, we go in there and now they're all wearing the face
• 39:42
  coverings. And it's all theological again,
• 39:44
  and it's pretty Wildman to to think about what the government
• 39:47
  will do if you opt out of their system, you know, especially in
• 39:49
  the West. Yeah, 100% the, the, the lengths
• 39:52
  of which they will go go to is just absolutely insane.
• 39:56
  But I think there's a silver lining to that.
• 39:58
  And the silver lining is I think people are finally starting to
• 40:01
  wake up to this. And I think this really started
• 40:05
  happening since the pandemic, like the all the whole pandemic
• 40:08
  thing. It just ripped the Band-Aid off.
• 40:10
  And I think you really, we're kind of living through this
• 40:14
  great awakening, this new renaissance, so to speak.
• 40:17
  I feel it personally right. I don't know.
• 40:21
  I don't know if you'd agree with that statement.
• 40:22
  Oh, I 100%. I mean nothing.
• 40:25
  Nothing. Since Murray Rothbard has
• 40:27
  radicalized me more than the COVID tyranny, and I call it the
• 40:29
  COVID regime is what I like to talk about.
• 40:32
  And I've talked about you using Guantanamo Bay to lock them all
• 40:35
  away for their crimes against humanity.
• 40:37
  But no, it it is a renaissance and and there's some really cool
• 40:40
  stuff that had happened over this too.
• 40:41
  Like the right All of a sudden it's about holistic healthcare
• 40:43
  and. You know, some of them started
• 40:46
  talking about like monetary freedom and and healthcare
• 40:49
  freedom and you know, doing away with the police state.
• 40:51
  And I'm like, whoa, I've never heard the right talk about these
• 40:53
  things. But in, you know, in return we
• 40:55
  have the the left and and the Democrats simping for, simping
• 40:59
  for a police state and pushing for westernized like medicine
• 41:02
  forced on people. And so it was like a really
• 41:05
  weird, like paradigm shift really is what it was.
• 41:08
  I, I, I hope that more people woke up.
• 41:10
  But, you know, once they started taking business with some like
• 41:13
  31% of the businesses that were shuttered will never come back
• 41:15
  to market. I mean, those people are pissed.
• 41:17
  They're going to be mad forever. And you took mom and pop spots
• 41:19
  away while you were forcefully feeding, you know, consumers to
• 41:25
  places like Amazon and Walmart. And yeah, they should be pissed.
• 41:29
  You really should be very, very, very mad.
• 41:31
  And I think a lot of people are. And you know, I, I, I, I hope
• 41:34
  that people don't forget that. That's, that's you know?
• 41:36
  And they're so the the the federal government is so good at
• 41:38
  the like, you know, oh, that was bad.
• 41:40
  But look at this. We're going to war now with
• 41:42
  Palestine and Iran's getting involved.
• 41:44
  And and this is what we this is what the West does.
• 41:46
  They they just, you know slide a hand.
• 41:48
  And so I'm hoping people don't forget this because the COVID
• 41:52
  regime was the the most tyranny that we've ever had in the
• 41:55
  United States in my lifetime. You know, it definitely says
• 41:58
  100%. Definitely.
• 42:00
  Since definitely since the the Patriot Act at least.
• 42:02
  But I mean that's 3 1/2 years of them shutting your businesses
• 42:05
  forcing you to take medicines you don't want you know and all
• 42:10
  this what they do they paid you 1600 Fiat dollars like and what
• 42:12
  did you buy with it You couldn't have, couldn't have paid your
• 42:15
  rent for more than a month or two, you know.
• 42:17
  And so yeah, I hope people that are, I hope people are pissed
• 42:20
  and I know a lot of people are pissed and I know it turned, it
• 42:21
  turned a lot of people around from this like oh the
• 42:23
  government's going to save us because they the hell they are.
• 42:26
  They're not going to. They absolutely won't.
• 42:28
  I completely agree. No, no, the government is the
• 42:31
  problem. It's just it's it's it's crazy
• 42:33
  that, you know, people have to endure 100% inflation before
• 42:37
  they start looking at an option. I'm referring to Javier in
• 42:41
  Argentina before they start looking at the alternative
• 42:44
  option. They say, you know, that that's
• 42:45
  probably a good idea. Like El Salvador had to go
• 42:48
  through a 30 year civil war until people got fed up with the
• 42:52
  status quo. The Uniparty equivalents over
• 42:54
  there, the traditional right and left party.
• 42:57
  And they're just like, let's try something new.
• 42:59
  The political party of Naimbu Kele is literally called Way I
• 43:04
  See This, which translates to new ideas, yeah.
• 43:07
  Well, The funny thing, a lot of a lot of people don't understand
• 43:10
  and and South America is basically like New Jersey.
• 43:13
  This is what this is how a lot of people have explained it to
• 43:16
  me and there is no like real right.
• 43:19
  Much of any real right there, it's like you have basically our
• 43:22
  equivalent of Democrats and then the the far, far left socialist
• 43:27
  right. And unless you're talking about
• 43:28
  like Chile in the 70s or whatever, but you know, it
• 43:32
  really, it really is like that socialist hellscape that we hear
• 43:36
  about all the time in South America.
• 43:37
  That's really what it's become. And yeah, at some point
• 43:40
  something's got to give, right? Like.
• 43:42
  It's unsustainable. People can't live like that.
• 43:44
  And people you know, when you when you're pushed into a corner
• 43:47
  financially and culturally and and socially.
• 43:50
  I mean you're at some point people are going to strike back.
• 43:53
  They're going to. They have to you.
• 43:54
  Unless you kill your entire population they're going to rise
• 43:57
  up against that stuff. And you know what, whether it's
• 43:59
  like a a business cycle or whatever, it's it's, it's it,
• 44:02
  you know, it can't take a very long time.
• 44:03
  And I hope, I hope that Americans.
• 44:06
  Have enough sense and I know that that's a, you know I'm
• 44:08
  really hoping here the Americans have enough sense to not let us
• 44:12
  hit that that like terrible rock bottom.
• 44:14
  I mean we went through to 1008 together, right.
• 44:17
  It was terrible everybody. You know, it took years for
• 44:19
  people to get back on top and the market to come back and but
• 44:23
  we have very serious like issues here today and there's there's
• 44:28
  ways to fix these things. By just not continuing to opt in
• 44:32
  the same system that we've been opting into for decades and
• 44:35
  decades and decades. Really.
• 44:36
  Truly gotcha. OK, All right, so first of all,
• 44:39
  huge fan. You have my vote.
• 44:41
  All right, It's Bitcoin, maxi, small government, and the dollar
• 44:45
  and the Fed. I'm sold.
• 44:47
  And the wars, Yeah, I mean, but you and the Fed.
• 44:50
  You and the wars. Right.
• 44:51
  Yeah, that's that's a lot of people don't understand that.
• 44:53
  It's like you suffocate the state.
• 44:56
  You can suffocate the state right now by just opting out of
• 45:00
  it entirely. With Bitcoin, you can suffocate
• 45:01
  the state by doing it 100%. I mean, I mean dude, that that's
• 45:04
  that's why Elizabeth Warren is like course, do you see that
• 45:08
  that SIOP that she did the the last two weeks?
• 45:11
  It was insane. She used her media allies to
• 45:15
  basically release this bogus Wall Street Journal article that
• 45:19
  said that Hamas raised illicit funds using crypto that turned
• 45:26
  out to be a flagrant lie. Wall Street Journal walked it
• 45:29
  back, but Elizabeth Warren used that article as source material
• 45:33
  to write a letter to the White House.
• 45:36
  And then the White House tapped on the Treasury.
• 45:38
  And then the Treasury circumvented the legislative
• 45:41
  process using the Patriot Act to introduce or propose these crazy
• 45:48
  regulations that would essentially it would be a de
• 45:51
  facto criminalization or an attempt to criminalize or a
• 45:56
  stepped a step towards criminalizing self custody in
• 46:00
  the United States. Right.
• 46:01
  So that just tells me that they're absolutely terrified of
• 46:04
  this. Thing.
• 46:04
  Oh, they're yeah, you're over the you're over the target.
• 46:07
  There's no doubt about it. And they know that.
• 46:08
  And you know, I I was just on Tim Poole a couple days ago.
• 46:11
  How was that, by the way? This is tiny, so, well, it's
• 46:14
  it's. It's it's huge.
• 46:17
  I mean, it's it's crazy when you're doing a show and you
• 46:18
  know, a million people are watching and it's pretty crazy,
• 46:20
  right? But Tim, Tim is like pro.
• 46:24
  Crypto. He's a bitcoiner.
• 46:27
  He's a bitcoiner, but he's pro all crypto.
• 46:29
  He thinks he he's he's not out of the shit killing phase and he
• 46:32
  doesn't believe and he doesn't believe that there's any way to
• 46:35
  ever be anonymous as a bitcoiner.
• 46:37
  Which I which you know I. We had this kind of argument.
• 46:41
  Now again, I'm not I'm not like a a professional when it comes
• 46:44
  to these things. I just, I just understand that
• 46:46
  Bitcoin's important it, you know, it's the movement that can
• 46:49
  help us attain freedom. It's a way to get yourself into
• 46:52
  financial freedom. It's a way to starve the state.
• 46:55
  So those are, those are my talking points.
• 46:57
  But for him, he's like, well, the government's always going to
• 46:59
  be able to find a way to track your, you know, and I'm like,
• 47:02
  well, if you had a president that was like, OK, listen, IRS,
• 47:05
  it's illegal now for you to to do.
• 47:07
  You know these transaction tracing and get rid of chain
• 47:10
  analysis you can't use chain analysis anymore and obviously
• 47:13
  self custody's got to be we got to put a full ban on trying to
• 47:16
  take away self custody and and but he doesn't understand that
• 47:19
  that you know he's like well they can just you know find any
• 47:22
  business that's that takes transactions from that
• 47:24
  blockchain and this and I'm like whoa dude you're going really
• 47:27
  far out of your way to try and. Diss Bitcoin here when the the
• 47:31
  truth is is that there's always going to be a way to get around
• 47:33
  this stuff. It's it's what it's what's for.
• 47:36
  It's what's created for and there's there's you know through
• 47:39
  the lightning network and and stuff that I've heard about you
• 47:42
  know the there there's a lot more anonymity and anonymity
• 47:47
  coming down the pipe too It's not like it's it's always going
• 47:50
  to be the same things change and and so he was he's he's not
• 47:54
  against it he's for it. But he thinks that you know that
• 47:56
  he doesn't have the same dream of mass adoption to him.
• 47:59
  There's still this aspect of like rising and falling and and
• 48:03
  you know, making gains and all this stuff.
• 48:05
  And to me it's, you know, bitcoins the way to opt out of
• 48:07
  the system. That's that's the the big
• 48:09
  difference, you know, Yeah, I mean it it's the IT is fixing
• 48:13
  the system but it it's very hard and it kind of reminds me of of
• 48:16
  Jeff Booth and released this video.
• 48:18
  He had a amazing talk the other day, but basically he was
• 48:21
  describing how it's incredibly difficult to see an alternative
• 48:27
  from within the Matrix. Sure.
• 48:29
  And I think that a lot of us live in this, what I call the
• 48:33
  Fiat Matrix, and it's incredibly difficult to picture an
• 48:37
  alternative system just because, like, think about it like we've
• 48:43
  spent our entire lives in this, right?
• 48:45
  People don't understand that they're a lot of the political
• 48:49
  mishaps or their economic hardships aren't coming because
• 48:54
  the opposing political parties in power, it's coming because
• 48:58
  the money is fundamentally broken.
• 49:00
  If you fix the money, you fix a lot of those economic hardships
• 49:05
  entirely and people are just completely blind to it.
• 49:08
  And I think that this was on purpose where they've they've
• 49:11
  taken up this divide and conquer strategy where it's like it's
• 49:15
  the Democrats, it's the Republicans.
• 49:18
  And then everyone just gets distracted fighting each other
• 49:21
  and get it getting caught up in the culture war while regard
• 49:24
  well, regardless of who's in power, they just continue to
• 49:28
  print money. Oh yeah.
• 49:30
  And they're not and they're not going to slow down.
• 49:31
  And and it's, it's funny, 'cause I got in this conversation with
• 49:34
  some Trump supporters after the Tim Poole Show because, you
• 49:37
  know, I, he kept talking about Trump.
• 49:39
  And I was like, I was like, yeah, I don't want you to vote
• 49:41
  for Trump. Like, I'm serious.
• 49:42
  I don't want you to vote for Trump.
• 49:43
  I don't want you to vote for the Republicans.
• 49:45
  And I'm. I'm going to be very clear about
• 49:46
  that, not just, 'cause I'm running for president, but
• 49:48
  because I'm tired of the Republicans and Democrats
• 49:50
  governing my life. I want you to stop doing that.
• 49:52
  Your choices affect my family, and you need to think about
• 49:55
  that. It's not just you, buddy, it's
• 49:57
  everybody else, right? But we were talking about that
• 49:59
  on Tim Poole and he's like, you know, the the commoners were
• 50:02
  like, 'cause I'm, I talk a lot about the middle class because I
• 50:04
  know that when the middle class is gone.
• 50:06
  We're in a lot of trouble and it's rapidly disappearing.
• 50:09
  And you know, these are the people that keep American
• 50:11
  running. And and so and so these people
• 50:15
  were like, you know, Donald Trump was the best American
• 50:18
  president in my lifetime for the middle class.
• 50:20
  And I'm like, he printed more money than any president in my
• 50:24
  entire life. You cannot tell me that he was
• 50:27
  good for the middle class by devaluing their purchasing power
• 50:31
  and stealing their wealth through inflation.
• 50:34
  We will never. Well, my I got more money on my
• 50:36
  paycheck. Yeah, but it was worth less.
• 50:38
  And now and now you know I have six kids, right?
• 50:42
  I'm raising six children. We got two adopts.
• 50:46
  We got one coming any, any day now.
• 50:47
  Our grocery bill has gone from 500 bucks every two weeks to 750
• 50:51
  bucks every two weeks and like the a matter of a year and a
• 50:55
  half, two years and just buying the same stuff.
• 50:58
  So, like, so like the Donald Trump is you going to blame that
• 51:01
  all on Joe Biden or maybe Donald Trump?
• 51:04
  Recklessly printing money, more money and spending more money
• 51:07
  than any president in my lifetime might have had
• 51:09
  something to do with that. That's directly affecting you as
• 51:12
  a an American middle class citizen today.
• 51:15
  You might want to look into that.
• 51:16
  It's very important. I I I think, you know, I think
• 51:19
  regardless of who is in power like it, it's like, yeah, like
• 51:24
  Trump Biden. I think that the power of the
• 51:27
  money printer is just so intoxicating that it's
• 51:32
  irresistible. The only solution is to, you
• 51:35
  know, the other way that bitcoiners say it is separation
• 51:37
  of money and state. And I think bitcoiners
• 51:40
  fundamentally understand that no one deserves the power of the
• 51:42
  money printer. If you want to make more
• 51:45
  Bitcoin, you have to mine it and pay for the mining
• 51:48
  infrastructure. You have to get in line like
• 51:50
  everybody else. Everyone's equal.
• 51:52
  There's no government bureaucrat that gets special privilege that
• 51:55
  clearly they've been abusing. Like how else is, like all these
• 51:59
  politicians worth hundreds of millions of dollars off of your
• 52:02
  salary? Don't even get me started.
• 52:04
  It's so crazy. So you get you get into office
• 52:07
  with $27.00 in your bank account and you come out with
• 52:09
  25,000,000. That doesn't make any sense.
• 52:11
  How does that happen? So question for you.
• 52:14
  So obviously we know. We know where you stand.
• 52:18
  This is great that you came on a Bitcoin show, right?
• 52:21
  Bitcoiners. You got You got someone who
• 52:23
  wants to end the Fed, make Bitcoin legal tender.
• 52:27
  You know, doesn't like the dollar.
• 52:28
  I like it. All these things are good.
• 52:31
  But where? Where?
• 52:32
  What's the state of the rest of the Libertarian Party?
• 52:36
  How do you feel about Bitcoin? Well so so it's it's funny you
• 52:39
  ask IN2022A caucus called the Mises caucus took over the the
• 52:44
  Libertarian party and these are the the Austro economics guys.
• 52:48
  I mean it it, you know, it's it's got the shares, the name of
• 52:51
  the institute. But these are the Murray
• 52:53
  Rothbard, Han Tournament Hapa Manger guys, right?
• 52:57
  Like these are the guys that came from that side of the
• 53:00
  libertarian movement. And in fact the the Libertarian
• 53:02
  party had a split in the in the 80s.
• 53:05
  I guess you know it was the Cato and Mises.
• 53:08
  Guys were like running the party together and they had this big
• 53:11
  split and all the Mises guys left and Cato kind of took over
• 53:13
  the party. And that's how we started seeing
• 53:15
  people like Bob Barr and Gary Johnson and these guys who don't
• 53:18
  don't know their, you know, their butt from the hole in the
• 53:20
  ground and when it comes to the stuff.
• 53:23
  And so the party now is way more radicalized today than it was
• 53:27
  even four years ago. And they're all, they're all
• 53:30
  Bitcoiners. I mean in in fact the the leader
• 53:33
  of the Mises Caucus, Mike Kais, who was my very, very good
• 53:35
  friend like brother for a long time.
• 53:38
  And I were able to get a crypto committee installed in the
• 53:43
  national Libertarian Party so that they could start looking
• 53:46
  into not just not just fundraising crypto in general,
• 53:51
  but but also using blockchain solutions for party processes
• 53:56
  like voting and our national conventions and and the and the
• 54:00
  and the like. And so, you know, they're
• 54:03
  they're. Much more into it now than they
• 54:06
  were even five years ago. They're definitely they're, you
• 54:09
  know, it's definitely the the only party in the United States
• 54:11
  of America today that you can confidently say would try to end
• 54:16
  any bans and regulations revolving around crypto
• 54:19
  adoption. So gotcha.
• 54:22
  Gotcha. OK, Interesting.
• 54:24
  I didn't know about that. I didn't know about that.
• 54:25
  I think, I think Ruston was trying to tell me about the
• 54:27
  split. OK.
• 54:30
  So what? What was?
• 54:31
  What was the? And if there was a split in the
• 54:34
  base, where did that? Like where did that base go?
• 54:39
  A lot of those guys went to the Democrats, man.
• 54:41
  A lot of the a lot of the Cato guys.
• 54:43
  So what? So that the initial, the initial
• 54:46
  split that way, that way guys went to the Democratic Party.
• 54:49
  A lot, a lot of these Cato reason libertarian guys have now
• 54:52
  gone to the Democratic Party. This like Andy and all these
• 54:55
  guys that were writing for Cato and writing for interesting fee
• 54:59
  even. And some of these these guys,
• 55:01
  yeah, they, they went to the Democrats and started working
• 55:03
  for Democrats. A lot of them are working for
• 55:05
  RFK Junior now as well, which I think is hilarious, 'cause, you
• 55:08
  know, this guy goes on a space. Well, here here's how I feel
• 55:12
  about him. He went on a space and talked
• 55:13
  about how much he supports crypto and all this stuff and
• 55:15
  then turned around and said we need to use government backed
• 55:17
  bonds to fix that. The the mortgage crisis, right.
• 55:20
  And I'm like, Oh my goodness, of course he's got a ton of money
• 55:23
  coming in from AIPAC, so he wants to send troops on the
• 55:26
  ground over to Israel and and Palestine, of course.
• 55:29
  He was like a. Severe eco fascist.
• 55:32
  I don't. I don't know how people just
• 55:33
  forget about the fact that he was like, I want any business
• 55:35
  that doesn't go along with the climate change narrative shut
• 55:38
  down. Like, I don't know.
• 55:39
  He hates guns, too. Yeah.
• 55:41
  And he and he said several times that it, you know, if he could
• 55:43
  get it, if he could get it through Congress and the Senate,
• 55:45
  he would sign a bill getting, you know, completely repealing
• 55:49
  the 2nd Amendment. Any libertarian worth of salt
• 55:52
  that's that's enjoying this guy is is is too far gone for me to
• 55:55
  be honest with you. And I get it.
• 55:57
  Like he's really good on healthcare freedom.
• 55:59
  My wife loves him, my wife's, she's one of the founders of
• 56:02
  Informed Choice Iowa, which is like the healthcare healthcare
• 56:04
  freedom group here in Iowa. They're the ones that push to
• 56:07
  have them like outlaw the mass mandate and tell businesses in
• 56:10
  the United in in Iowa that if they wanted to operate here,
• 56:12
  they couldn't force this experimental drug on us.
• 56:15
  And so she's like, oh, I would totally work in his law office,
• 56:18
  but his rest of his policies are crap.
• 56:20
  You know, and and she even knows that and she's like apolitical.
• 56:23
  So I don't know. I don't know.
• 56:25
  Is there such thing? Is it so that your wife, who is
• 56:29
  married to a a presidential candidate is apolitical?
• 56:34
  Is. There, I would say, I would say
• 56:36
  that my my wife is, she's a lobbyist when it comes to
• 56:39
  healthcare freedom and outside of that she's a black.
• 56:42
  Can you define what what healthcare freedom is?
• 56:44
  Oh, they've oh, so I mean, you're you're in full custody of
• 56:48
  your own healthcare. I mean they.
• 56:50
  But they but they've also, but they've also pushed.
• 56:53
  They pushed like, you know when a child dies here of sudden
• 56:55
  infant death Syndrome in in Iowa, the coroner now has to put
• 56:59
  their vaccine schedule on their. On their death certificate so
• 57:03
  that it can show how how it used to.
• 57:05
  They didn't have to put any of that information.
• 57:07
  So they push for like a bunch of different things that that you
• 57:10
  know give more transparency to to especially the death of
• 57:14
  children. Is there something that they're
• 57:15
  very, very in tune with? Of course they're all, they're
• 57:18
  all like pretty vehement anti Vaxxers as well.
• 57:21
  I don't always agree on all that stuff, but I do.
• 57:23
  I do. I do.
• 57:25
  More so agree with it now than I did before I met her for sure
• 57:27
  but she's had me read a ton of books and information and data
• 57:30
  so but but I also believe that you know Americans have the
• 57:33
  right to choose their own healthcare any way they want.
• 57:36
  I think that the you know federal government subsidizing
• 57:38
  it much like they do with colleges has absolutely
• 57:40
  destroyed the healthcare system in the United States.
• 57:42
  I think patent laws on drugs have absolutely destroyed the
• 57:45
  the pharmaceutical companies and.
• 57:48
  So I agree with her on a on a lot of it, most 99.9%.
• 57:52
  And I think, you know, I agree with, I agree with RFK Junior on
• 57:55
  the healthcare freedom movement as well.
• 57:57
  But outside of that, he's not anywhere near a libertarian.
• 58:00
  I say this about Vivek too, right?
• 58:02
  This guy wants to go to war with Mexico.
• 58:04
  I mean he's like that's crazy to me, you know?
• 58:06
  And now of course he's talking about this, this, right, that
• 58:10
  Israel has to take the whole area and all this stuff.
• 58:13
  I mean, the guy, you know, he's not a libertarian.
• 58:15
  He's got some good policies, though.
• 58:16
  Good policies, good. He's good on.
• 58:18
  He's good on Bitcoin for sure. It's he's been good at.
• 58:22
  It's interesting because all these wars, they would not be
• 58:25
  possible without the money printer.
• 58:27
  So like. Shocking one side it's like,
• 58:31
  yeah, I love Bitcoin and the other side it's like yeah let's
• 58:34
  go to war with these guys, let's go to war with these guys.
• 58:36
  So yeah it's just it's an it's an interesting phenomenon that
• 58:40
  that disconnect but. It's the it's the the money
• 58:43
  counterfeiter, by the way. I don't call it the money
• 58:44
  printer anymore. I just call it the count, the
• 58:46
  the giant counterfeiting machine.
• 58:48
  That's what it is. And you said you're running.
• 58:50
  You said you're running for president.
• 58:51
  I'm running for president. Yes, yes.
• 58:53
  And you know, like I said, I'm not under any crazy illusion
• 58:56
  that that the American public's going to culturally change
• 58:59
  overnight and elect me. But we are.
• 59:01
  We are going to take the show on the road and we are going to, we
• 59:03
  are going to do all the biggest shows and we are going to go to
• 59:05
  as many corporate news media stations that will have me.
• 59:09
  Some of them, yeah, I'm sure. I know I'll end up on Fox
• 59:12
  several times because we've already had media requests from
• 59:15
  Mike Kennedy and stuff like that.
• 59:16
  So we'll be on those shows for sure.
• 59:19
  I think Kat Temp just followed me on Twitter.
• 59:21
  So I'm probably going to get on gut filled soon.
• 59:23
  So like, yeah, we're going on, we're going on these shows and
• 59:25
  we're going to talk about this stuff and I'm going to be bold
• 59:27
  and brash and say if they want to kick me off, they can kick me
• 59:29
  off. You want to?
• 59:30
  You want to give me the wrong? All treatment?
• 59:31
  That's fine. We don't need the corporate news
• 59:33
  media anymore. They need us, all right, but
• 59:35
  could you do me a favor? When you go on these shows,
• 59:38
  right, it's Bitcoin 'cause you can end the Fed, you can do
• 59:42
  whatever, but Bitcoin is the solution.
• 59:44
  So I I agree. I agree.
• 59:46
  You have these massive platforms that you're about to have
• 59:49
  because you're on a noble endeavor, right?
• 59:51
  To run as a libertarian third party candidate in the United
• 59:54
  States, as a Bitcoin, as a Bitcoin centric show.
• 59:58
  We ask you, man. Bitcoin is the solution.
• 1:00:01
  Just point to that. Just point to that.
• 1:00:02
  You're gonna have a massive platform.
• 1:00:05
  I agree. And and you know the, I think
• 1:00:08
  the first step to that is having somebody that's willing to say
• 1:00:11
  we're no longer going to regulate your, your economics,
• 1:00:15
  man. I mean, I think I really do
• 1:00:17
  'cause that gives, that gives everybody the, the.
• 1:00:20
  You know, the sure thought that they don't have to worry about
• 1:00:23
  the government coming in and taking everything from
• 1:00:24
  everybody, right? And I think that that's probably
• 1:00:26
  one of the biggest problems with mass adoption, is that people
• 1:00:30
  are afraid that the government's gonna be able to just come in
• 1:00:33
  and take your money or or, you know, I know a lot of times it
• 1:00:36
  was funny, 'cause you, you brought up Palestine and and
• 1:00:39
  Elizabeth Warren saying that they raised all this money,
• 1:00:41
  Hamas raised all this money in in Bitcoin.
• 1:00:44
  But, you know, a lot of people are like, well, what happens
• 1:00:45
  when the power gets turned off? And I'm like, hey, how did Hamas
• 1:00:47
  raise all this Bitcoin if the power was off?
• 1:00:49
  It doesn't make any sense. To me but but so I yeah, I agree
• 1:00:52
  with you man. I think that it's you know it's
• 1:00:54
  probably the most important issue in the world right now and
• 1:00:58
  and I think that it needs a lot of attention in the media and
• 1:01:01
  I'm I'm going to talk about it and Jethro who's a good friend
• 1:01:04
  of mine and literally messages me like 300 times a day is going
• 1:01:07
  to make sure that I always talk about Bitcoin.
• 1:01:09
  So and and Ruston too, cuz dude, you have the platform.
• 1:01:14
  You have the message. But you're gonna be exposed to a
• 1:01:19
  lot of the mainstream media that I would say, and what bitcoiners
• 1:01:24
  are running into this issue where it's like, we advocate for
• 1:01:27
  Bitcoin but we're stuck within this echo chamber, right?
• 1:01:31
  If you have this platform right, it's not only about ending the
• 1:01:34
  Fed, it's about ending the Fed and then providing the solution.
• 1:01:37
  The solution is Bitcoin. So it's like end the endless
• 1:01:40
  wars. How do you end the endless wars?
• 1:01:41
  Bitcoin, right. So like Bitcoin is the solution
• 1:01:44
  to a lot of these, a lot of these issues, a lot of these
• 1:01:46
  problems. And that's, that's that's what I
• 1:01:48
  would ask for. You, bro.
• 1:01:49
  You have my vote. If you have my vote, if you
• 1:01:52
  promise me on air. I promise you, I promise you to
• 1:01:55
  talk about Bitcoin and and I have talked about Bitcoin in
• 1:01:57
  just about every interview that I've ever done where we talk
• 1:01:59
  about monetary policy. I've talked about how it is the
• 1:02:02
  the fix for this stuff and how it does starve the state and.
• 1:02:05
  You know I have my, my, my current talking points about it.
• 1:02:07
  But there's other things that you know, I I say about it as
• 1:02:10
  well and I'm always going to talk about it because first of
• 1:02:13
  all I'm a doctor. I'm I'm a maxi.
• 1:02:14
  I think it's the only crypto that that I'm not a I'm not an
• 1:02:18
  investment advisor. But I will say it's the only
• 1:02:20
  crypto that I think you should probably be investing in because
• 1:02:23
  it is the IT is the one. It's the it's the chosen one
• 1:02:26
  man. It's the the one with the
• 1:02:27
  framework that's going to save us.
• 1:02:29
  It's the way to fight the government without even getting
• 1:02:32
  elected my man. So peaceful revolution, the most
• 1:02:35
  important vote you'll ever make in your life is taking Bitcoin
• 1:02:38
  to self custody. Anyways, Joshua, I want to be
• 1:02:40
  respectful of your time. I know we're at the top of the
• 1:02:43
  hour. If people want to vote for you,
• 1:02:45
  where can they find out more about you?
• 1:02:48
  Where can they stay plugged in to see what you're doing, what
• 1:02:51
  you're up to these days, and how they can support you and your
• 1:02:54
  campaign? Sure.
• 1:02:55
  So we have the website at joshuasmith2024.com.
• 1:02:58
  There's a bunch of stuff you can do there you can.
• 1:03:00
  Sign up to become a volunteer. There's a form for that.
• 1:03:02
  There's a course donations. The only problem with the
• 1:03:05
  federal government and the and the campaign finance laws is
• 1:03:08
  that if we take Bitcoin donations, which we're more than
• 1:03:11
  happy to do. We still have to report or make
• 1:03:15
  a good faith effort to get your name, address and employer, but
• 1:03:20
  it's just a good faith effort. So that that is something that
• 1:03:23
  we still have to do, unfortunately, because they will
• 1:03:25
  find me out the butt if I don't. And of course, follow me on
• 1:03:28
  Twitter at Joshua at large. That's where I'm at the most of
• 1:03:30
  the time, and I'm always at war with the other blue checks
• 1:03:33
  there. But it's fun.
• 1:03:34
  It's a good time. So come hang out on Twitter.
• 1:03:36
  It is. It's narrative trench warfare on
• 1:03:39
  the battlegrounds of the Internet.
• 1:03:40
  That's that's what it's all about.
• 1:03:43
  But winning one person? Winning over the hearts and
• 1:03:47
  minds, one person at a time. Anyways, Joshua, like I said,
• 1:03:51
  it's been an honor. Love to have you back on the
• 1:03:54
  show again. You know in the next couple
• 1:03:56
  months or so we are heading into election season, so 2024 is is
• 1:04:00
  going to be absolutely bonkers. So we would love to have you
• 1:04:04
  back on next year when all the madness is happening, just to
• 1:04:08
  check in to see how you're doing.
• 1:04:10
  Well, and just to be clear, we all have our own primary process
• 1:04:13
  as well. It's it's at our National
• 1:04:15
  Convention in May of next year if you want to see me in the
• 1:04:18
  general election, the. The best thing you can do, the
• 1:04:21
  absolute best thing you can do, is join your state Libertarian
• 1:04:24
  Party, show up to their state convention, and either become a
• 1:04:27
  national delegate or vote on our slate of national delegates to
• 1:04:31
  send to the National Convention. Because 1200 people or less.
• 1:04:35
  Pick our our our nominee. So it really is all about the
• 1:04:38
  delegates that show up to DC next year at our convention over
• 1:04:41
  Memorial Day weekend. I believe in May, right.
• 1:04:43
  Memorial. Yeah.
• 1:04:43
  Memorial Day weekend that will be at in DC and it's a one vote.
• 1:04:49
  There's a debate and one vote. It's on C-SPAN.
• 1:04:52
  You can all watch it And I am the front runner.
• 1:04:55
  The current currently considered the preeminent candidate.
• 1:04:57
  But anything can change between now and May.
• 1:04:58
  So become a delegate. Show up to the National
• 1:05:01
  Convention. Vote us in.
• 1:05:02
  Make sure we get in the general and we'll be on your ballot.
• 1:05:05
  Take action, take agency, get involved.
• 1:05:08
  Absolutely, 100%. Joshua, thank you so much for
• 1:05:11
  coming on the show. Really appreciate it.
• 1:05:13
  I'm going to close it out. Give me a couple minutes or so.
• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:23
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• 1:05:27
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• 1:05:30
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