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Hour Two | Saints Draft Debate, NFL Free Agency & Tua to Atlanta · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: The Bench.
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  Speaker 2: We have to Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, here we go where the.
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  Speaker 2: Plays get broken down and science gets denied The Bench
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  Speaker 2: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raising
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  Speaker 2: Kine Studios.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in O t B. Hour number
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  Speaker 4: two of the Show. Tuesday Show is brought to you
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  Speaker 4: by Commutnet Steal again. Glad to have them back on
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  Speaker 4: the squad. We had to kick T Bob to Chicago
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  Speaker 4: to get them back, but hey, we got to do
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  Speaker 4: what we got to do to have community to steal
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  Speaker 4: back on the squad. Saints are making moves all over
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  Speaker 4: the place. Also, this is from Kat Arrell. Shout out
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  Speaker 4: el Shugret. The Nuanced Saints have restructured Eric McCoy's contract,
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  Speaker 4: adding a voyage year, so his eight point seven million
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  Speaker 4: dollar base salary plus his five hundred thousand dollars roster
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  Speaker 4: bonus was converted into a signing bonus, which turns like
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  Speaker 4: Flynn get sometimes save them seven point three million dollars
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  Speaker 4: against the twenty twenty six salary cap. What I do
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  Speaker 4: you got? You got one of those one time, and
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  Speaker 4: I never did so I was better the other day.
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  Speaker 4: Ever got like thirteen years ago yeah, so still really
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  Speaker 4: good money, you know. Wow, like and you got it
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  Speaker 4: all like that next time, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Hope for success to your loved ones and friends.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean you pretty much said at them this
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  Speaker 4: morning for the U High Golf Tournament.
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  Speaker 5: To be fair, you did, that's.
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  Speaker 4: Where my kids go. So true.
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  Speaker 5: You can't even deny that, like you really you said that.
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  Speaker 4: He kind of did.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Michael Jordan said it. I can yourself.
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  Speaker 3: I mean basically same guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always said it. I've always said it. Uh
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  Speaker 4: So that's a good move. And McCoy is such a
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  Speaker 4: good player when he's healthy. You just got to keep
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  Speaker 4: him healthy. And if you do with the move that
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  Speaker 4: you made to bring in Edwards, you love what you've
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  Speaker 4: done up front. Also, the Saints have signed tight end
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  Speaker 4: No Offense to a two year deal. No fan got
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  Speaker 4: two year deal, correct, Yeah, two year deal for no
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  Speaker 4: offense and the tight end position for you had to
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  Speaker 4: get an upgrade because you have some free agents like
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  Speaker 4: Falshom Morow, Taysom Hill free agents. Juwan Johnson certainly not
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  Speaker 4: a complete tight end. He is a receiver that is
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  Speaker 4: playing tight end and look in some ways it gives you,
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  Speaker 4: you know, some benefit and some pros and cons to
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  Speaker 4: the but you needed like a real tight end somebody's
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  Speaker 4: played his entire life.
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  Speaker 6: Did somebody Certainly the Saints have had their eye on
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  Speaker 6: for a while. I don't know if he goes back
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  Speaker 6: with Kellim Moore, whatever it is, but he was rumored
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  Speaker 6: to Did he visit New Orleans before it was something
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  Speaker 6: at the trade deadline? I believe this year that the
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  Speaker 6: Saints were close to getting him, and maybe it was
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  Speaker 6: at some point, but he was rumored to be a
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  Speaker 6: Saint this past season at some point.
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  Speaker 3: So it's somebody that's been on their radar.
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  Speaker 7: And like you said, he visited last July during training camp.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, sorry before yeah, okay, there was not the trade
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  Speaker 6: deadline before the actual season. So certainly it's a I'm
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  Speaker 6: not going to sit here and say it like the
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  Speaker 6: greatest tight end to ever played the position, but certainly
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  Speaker 6: a person that fits the need.
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  Speaker 3: What would you call him, Jake? A Y tight end?
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  Speaker 4: He could be either one. I think he could be
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  Speaker 4: a Y R N F to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 4: where Juwan's only going to be an F. If he's
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  Speaker 4: a Y, you're licking your chops a yackle No, it's
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  Speaker 4: definitely not.
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  Speaker 3: That nobody knows what he's talking about.
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  Speaker 4: A yackle would be somebody like Will Disley, who's a
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  Speaker 4: free agent. He was with the Chargers. Like he's a yackle.
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  Speaker 4: He was just called Johnson.
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  Speaker 3: John Johnson's receiving tight end that sometimes chooses not to receive.
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  Speaker 4: True that that part's face.
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  Speaker 8: He runs the route in fairness.
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  Speaker 6: He does fair Sometimes he chooses to receive the ball
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  Speaker 6: very well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but then sometimes he decides not to, Like he's like, yep,
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  Speaker 4: I think my chest needs a ball to hit.
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  Speaker 3: It real quick.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes he decides to miss time is jump a little
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  Speaker 6: bit at an alligator arm it. But sometimes he also
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  Speaker 6: catches over three people's heads and scores a touchdown.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you need it. Look, you needed to add some
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  Speaker 4: tight ends. Now, I don't know what the plant like.
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  Speaker 4: False Tomorrow is a free agent. We keep saying that
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  Speaker 4: last year he made four million dollars the expected market
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  Speaker 4: value for Foster's two point six this this time around.
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  Speaker 4: So even if you added falsterim Morrow to your roster,
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  Speaker 4: like that would give you three tight end options and
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  Speaker 4: he's only gonna cost you two point six million dollars.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to sign a one year deal. I mean, well,
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  Speaker 4: you just got seven years of service time.
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  Speaker 6: So let me tell you there's some really good tight
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  Speaker 6: ends in this draft as well that are going to
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  Speaker 6: be fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh rounders.
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  Speaker 3: We saw it at at the Senior Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Like there was Cozil from Houston who just caught another
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  Speaker 4: ball against LSU in the Texas Bowl. He's every bit,
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  Speaker 4: He's six six and some change. With some real receiving,
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  Speaker 4: he's a really good player. You might get him to
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  Speaker 4: your point, Matt in the fifth, sixth, seventh rounds exactly.
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  Speaker 3: You could get that.
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  Speaker 6: It's just that there's an evolution of tight end happening
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  Speaker 6: in the NFL. And there's a lot of guys that
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  Speaker 6: were probably role players in college. Didn't get a lot
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  Speaker 6: of I didn't have a lot of yards, didn't wasn't
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  Speaker 6: that sexy player, didn't have games like Cozell had with
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  Speaker 6: at Houston versus LSU.
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  Speaker 4: But like init a year at ball State where he
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  Speaker 4: had ninety six catches, You're gonna.
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  Speaker 6: Get some guys in college and this is I'm just
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  Speaker 6: I'm just making it like like a just a nice
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  Speaker 6: even number here. I'm not basing this on any one
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  Speaker 6: person You're gonna have some guys that get drafted in
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  Speaker 6: the sixth seventh round that are gonna make immediate impacts
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  Speaker 6: in a big way. Offensively, You're gonna have guys that
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  Speaker 6: had thirty two catches and three hundred and ten yards
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  Speaker 6: in college and then they're gonna go to someone like
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  Speaker 6: the Rams and score seven touchdowns next year. Like You're
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  Speaker 6: good because there's good players of that position and they're
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  Speaker 6: being utilized in a way that I haven't really seen before. Like,
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  Speaker 6: of course, the tight end's been out there, like you
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  Speaker 6: saw it with the Patriots with broken You've seen these
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  Speaker 6: great tight ends play. I'm not saying that, but the
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  Speaker 6: way they're being used, like thirteen personnel as being like
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  Speaker 6: one of the top personnel groups for the best at
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  Speaker 6: one of the best offenses in the National Football League
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  Speaker 6: is unheard of. But that's what's being done because they
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  Speaker 6: create such bad They create matchup problems when you have
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  Speaker 6: guys that can block but also run routes, and that's
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  Speaker 6: what get it. It used to be like Jake likes
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  Speaker 6: to put like the the why and the F tag on,
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  Speaker 6: like you used to have like the blocker or the
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  Speaker 6: pass catching but now you're starting to get like these
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  Speaker 6: guys that are pass catchers but can also stick their
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  Speaker 6: nose in there, right, and like that's why you see
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  Speaker 6: the best offenses running thirteen personnel. And so they're they're
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  Speaker 6: dressing out four or five tight ends every game because
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  Speaker 6: not only are they really good there, they can play
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  Speaker 6: a lot of different things on special teams as well.
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  Speaker 6: Ward they're ward like, they they're versatile. So you're you
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  Speaker 6: can catch another tight end in this draft late Yep,
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  Speaker 6: that's gonna make a really good impact.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 4: I think this tight end classes. It might not have
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  Speaker 4: the brock Bowers in it, but that's okay. From the
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  Speaker 4: third to the sixth round, it's got some starters in it.
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  Speaker 4: To your point, And because if you're the second tight
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  Speaker 4: end in twelve person l in the NFL today, you're
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  Speaker 4: a starter, like you can play. If you're a third
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  Speaker 4: tight end, you're you're for something for sure.
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  Speaker 6: You could get your name announced before the game, run
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  Speaker 6: out the tunnel by yourself as a starter.
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  Speaker 9: Think about a think about a guy like Jared Camp
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  Speaker 9: from Oklahoma, but you're in a four to five to
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  Speaker 9: two with the combine. People don't talk about him because
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  Speaker 9: he played the linebacker for three years at Oklahoma. You
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  Speaker 9: think that guy's not gonna stick his nose in there
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  Speaker 9: and block for you. And he had over five hundred
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  Speaker 9: receiving yards his loan years at tight end. Like that
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  Speaker 9: guy's not getting drafted before were like round five.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just Titans and you got Oscar delt from Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: I know he's got the fracture in his foot that
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  Speaker 4: he's like, I don't care. I want to go run
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  Speaker 4: as a combine even players.
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  Speaker 6: Like that, and he hadn't had the success certainly like
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  Speaker 6: a Sean mcfay or Shanahan or now with the guns. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: like they hadn't had that success, so you can't put
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  Speaker 6: them in the same category. But I would put Kellen
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  Speaker 6: Moore like offensive minded, Yeah, like I would put him
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  Speaker 6: in that realm of like he could get to that point.
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  Speaker 3: I just said, realm, real like country.
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  Speaker 1: I like.
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  Speaker 6: And I believe that he's going to follow those trends,
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  Speaker 6: And I would say tight end is a big thing
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  Speaker 6: that he wants to implement more and more. He just
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  Speaker 6: has to have the personnel to do it, and they
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  Speaker 6: got to be healthy, of course.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do that.
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  Speaker 4: That is something they can get their third tight end
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  Speaker 4: if they don't bring a veteran player in like Foston
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  Speaker 4: Morro back to the fold, they can certainly get in
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  Speaker 4: the later rounds of this draft, because it's deep when
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  Speaker 4: you're talking about the middle rounds coming up here in April.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's go to mike linebacker though, right there
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of your defense.
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  Speaker 3: Right there in the middle.
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  Speaker 4: To Mario Davis two years with Jets, talked about it earlier,
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  Speaker 4: twenty plus million dollars. So you draft Danny Stutsman out
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  Speaker 4: of Oklahoma in the fourth round. Last year, you got
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Ford out of Texas, who you got in the
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  Speaker 4: fifth round a couple of years ago. All right, Pete
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  Speaker 4: Warner obviously is a will linebacker. You can need somebody
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  Speaker 4: in that three to four to be right there in
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  Speaker 4: the middle of your defense playing mike. Is that Danny Stutsman?
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  Speaker 4: Have we seen enough from him to get the opportunity,
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  Speaker 4: or let's take a look at who's available still a
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  Speaker 4: free agency. Do you go get a veteran linebacker. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: it's a two year deal, maybe it's a one year deal.
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  Speaker 4: To say, you know what, I don't want an off
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  Speaker 4: the ball rookie linebacker replacing Tomorrio Davis. It's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of pressure. Let's sign this veteran player for this year
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  Speaker 4: and then maybe next year we dive back into the draft.
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  Speaker 4: Do you go say, hey, Levante David, you know us,
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  Speaker 4: we know you. You've been in the league fourteen years.
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  Speaker 4: We've played against you in the division every year. Do
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  Speaker 4: you say, hey, Bobby Wagner, you've played fourteen years. I
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  Speaker 4: need you for one. Hey, Kaate Nellis, you've played here before.
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  Speaker 4: That was cool, I want to do it again, right,
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  Speaker 4: Kate Nellis is somebody who's going to cost you probably
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  Speaker 4: eight and a half million dollars for a one year deal,
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  Speaker 4: maybe nine. Devin Bush is probably going to cost you
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more. You have a decision, mate, Just
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  Speaker 4: don't bring in Kenneth Murray. Don't don't do that. Don't
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  Speaker 4: bring in Kenneth Murray. That's not what you need right now.
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  Speaker 4: Matt Milano from Buffalo had a lot of injuries, so
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  Speaker 4: that's always a concern. But on a one year, four
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  Speaker 4: and a half million dollar deal, Matt Milano from Buffalo
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  Speaker 4: can be in the middle of your defense. There's a
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  Speaker 4: ton of options that you can have a one year
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  Speaker 4: deal to try to replace the Mario Davis for one
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  Speaker 4: year year, maybe two. I just think if you go
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  Speaker 4: out and you get somebody in the third round off
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  Speaker 4: theotball linebacker to replace somebody that potentially could be a
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  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, I'm not sure that's the best case
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  Speaker 4: scenario for you. But I love the idea of bringing
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  Speaker 4: in a Bobby Wagner Levonte David. I like the Bobby
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  Speaker 4: kayen Nell. It's one of those guys that's free right
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  Speaker 4: now that you can bring in for a year or two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, certainly it's like Stutsman's chance to step up,
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  Speaker 6: step in, prove that he can be the guy, right
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  Speaker 6: But you would certainly like a little veteran blood in
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  Speaker 6: there to kind of guide and lead and help form that.
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  Speaker 6: I really like the Bobby Wagner move, Like I personally
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  Speaker 6: like I was a teammate when he was a rookie.
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  Speaker 3: Like he's been in the league a long time. Oh god,
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  Speaker 3: you're old. He was a rookie in twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 4: And see I don't uh huh, he's fourteen years in.
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  Speaker 6: Matthew Well, yeah, that heaby math And oh I do
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  Speaker 6: remember he used to have a backpack and it was
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  Speaker 6: a ninja turtle backpack. Well, Bob made him go up
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  Speaker 6: in my book. Yeah it was awesome. No, seriously, I
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  Speaker 6: love it. He had an inja turtle backpack you would
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  Speaker 6: wear all the meetings. I had liked them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the shell on its alarms shell. Yeah did, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's really my only scouting report on Bobby Wagner.
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  Speaker 4: He got played fourteen years in the league. Yep, and
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  Speaker 4: your scouting reporters, he had a ninja turtle backpack as
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  Speaker 4: a rookie. You're not gonna get that anywhere else, folks.
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  Speaker 3: Right here on off the bench.
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  Speaker 4: Oh god, I am a little worried that. Brandon Staley,
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  Speaker 4: who's the Saint Stevens the coordinator, did coach Kenneth Murray
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  Speaker 4: when he was the head coach of the Chargers. And look,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not just trying to be here be throwing shade
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  Speaker 4: at Kenneth Murray. He's just he's not the kind of
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  Speaker 4: linebacker you're gonna want. He's he's a sidelined sideline guy
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  Speaker 4: in a three four defense man.
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  Speaker 3: So who is it?
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  Speaker 4: Who Kenneth Murray? So he played for Dallas last year
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  Speaker 4: but got drafted by the Chargers in the first round
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  Speaker 4: when Staley was the head coach there. But when you
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  Speaker 4: play right in the middle of a three four defense,
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna have guards that have a free path to
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  Speaker 4: you immediately, because that's just the way when you play
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  Speaker 4: an odd front, that's the way that it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: He's not the guy I won't taken on a guard
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  Speaker 4: right there in the middle of your defense. So, like again,
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  Speaker 4: there's places for him. I don't think New Orleans is
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  Speaker 4: that place. That's why I'd rather have Bobby Wagner, Levonte,
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  Speaker 4: David Kayden Ellis. I'll take Devin Bush over that. I
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  Speaker 4: take Matt Milano over that. Devin White's out there. Devin
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  Speaker 4: White just had one hundred and forty five tackles for
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  Speaker 4: the Raiders.
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  Speaker 3: Leo's I don't know what he's really talking about.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think Devin in a in a three four
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  Speaker 4: is the best case for either one either, though.
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  Speaker 9: Leo played a lot of football for the Chiefs. He's
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  Speaker 9: a solid linebacker.
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  Speaker 8: That's if you want to go cheap cheap.
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  Speaker 4: Like if you bargain Ben Hunting, that's gonna cost you
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  Speaker 4: about four and a half million.
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  Speaker 8: Dollars one year deal in channel. Let me what twenty six?
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  Speaker 8: So like a veteran but still young.
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  Speaker 3: They got it.
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  Speaker 4: They have to add somebody. Danny Stutsman. I think he say, good,
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  Speaker 4: change his pace player, bring him in corps for war
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  Speaker 4: Daddy that that's great. I don't know that he can
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  Speaker 4: be your every down linebacker. So bring in a veteran player,
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  Speaker 4: fare him with Danny Stutsman who can give you some
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  Speaker 4: snaps on the defensive side, not just special teams, and
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  Speaker 4: try to replace some of the leadership you lose with
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  Speaker 4: to Mario Davis as.
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  Speaker 6: Well, how do you feel about the Let's talk about
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  Speaker 6: the draft a little bit, like, how do you feel
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  Speaker 6: about replacing via the draft? Because I know there's a
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  Speaker 6: couple of linebackers that you like, certainly the one from
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  Speaker 6: Ohio State.
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  Speaker 4: And then if you take Sunny Styles at eight, I'll
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  Speaker 4: go turn in the car to the commissioner myself.
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  Speaker 6: I'll be there and what about I'll do it. How
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  Speaker 6: about a second round pick Jazah Jaco Rodriguez, who will
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  Speaker 6: be the defensive rookie of the year next year.
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  Speaker 4: It would You're probably right, I think we agree there.
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  Speaker 4: It would have to be certain guys because like I
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  Speaker 4: just said, like to take one to replace Damrio Davis,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to take a strong mentality, and you might
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  Speaker 4: be like, what do you mean, It's just football. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just telling you. And you know this too. You been
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  Speaker 4: in enough locker rooms. When you get drafted to replace
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  Speaker 4: a legend, that brings in an added pressure not everybody
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  Speaker 4: can handle. I was drafted to replace Lorenzo O'Neil, right,
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  Speaker 4: different player, the offense was changing, but in fans minds
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  Speaker 4: like I was brought in to replace Lorenzo O'Neil, who
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  Speaker 4: might one day wear a gold jacket.
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  Speaker 6: So like I know, I get it. I was brought
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  Speaker 6: in and replaced Brett Favre, so I get it, like
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  Speaker 6: I get the pain guys. So there's there's things that
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  Speaker 6: come with that, and you've got to be able to
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  Speaker 6: handle that. So of the guys I think can handle
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  Speaker 6: that sunny styles without question. I'm telling you, Like I
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  Speaker 6: walked away.
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  Speaker 5: So can Jacob Martinez Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 4: Oh he called it Martinez. I was like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 4: but I think he could about say. I thinks I
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  Speaker 4: think C J. Allen from Georgia and I think Jacob Bardriguez,
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  Speaker 4: all three could handle that pressure that I'm talking about
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  Speaker 4: after having conversations with him at the combine.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with you, but I think you're putting
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: a lot on this pressure situation to replace something.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I've just I've been through it.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: No one would have picked you to be able to
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: handle it, but you did. I don't know, I'm just
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: mess a captain, but like, yeah, I mean, especially this sage,
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: these guys are going to go in there and just
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: want they just want to play football.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Not saying it's the only thing, but I'm telling you
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: it is something that is talked about, thought about. Again,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: I've gone through this. I remember the feelings of people
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: talking about replacing the Legend, and they're always going to
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: compare you to that guy. There's people in this draft
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: that can handle that. I don't think everybody can handle that.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: I would agree with you, but that Legend decided to
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: sign with an irrelevant organization. He didn't like retire, he
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: didn't like lay his jersey down on the fifty, you
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: know what I mean.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: He decided to go sign. Was like, there's gonna be pressure.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: He sounds a Jets and I was kind of like, well,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: if he sounds a Jets. Is it really that hard.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a lot of pressure. I mean that
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: got left you. I mean, I'm not saying left.
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: I don't want to say that the guy decided the
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: opportunity was better to play for the Jets.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: Look, I get money, but that's just.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: It's state income tax is going to be off the charts.
• 17:14
  Speaker 9: Well, Jake mentioned, you know, he knows the situation. That's
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: why I wouldn't assigned to with them exactly. And he
• 17:20
  Speaker 9: knows the situation like he's been with the Jets. Did
• 17:23
  Speaker 9: you not remember you played for the Jets.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yeah. The facility's nice. They got a
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: nice cafeteria. Domlets were really good.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: I was there.
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: Maybe that's you know what I'm bad if tomorrow is honest,
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: there's like guys, it was. It was the Omelet and
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: they did like you could.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Get it like a smoothie shake anytime you wanted to.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: It was nice.
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: I got it, and I'm actually kind of actually kind
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: of agree with the decision now for.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: What you just put in the chat. That's our coal.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: For them.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: No, I'm right.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: One thing I do remember about being in New Jersey
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: when I was with the Jets, I was there for
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: a while, is okay?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: If you in a Jersey correct me if I'm wrong.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: You cannot pump your own gas?
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: Right, So I drove from Philadelphia to New York and
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: my uncle was like, hey can I because they get
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: offended if you start pumping your own gas.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: You just can't do it. Like it's actually I think
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: it's a law. You can't pump your own.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: Full service station there's gas attendance because like the gas
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: station will close, and you got to get your gas
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: before the gas station closes, Like how fast Awkwards?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: And then that's what Damario Davis. He chose to go
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: to a place where you can't get gas like after eight.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Pmre in Jersey? Did you live in hobo?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: That's an indictment?
• 18:51
  Speaker 8: It is that like that you don't want to pump
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: your own gas like silver spoon in hand idea by
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: the Saints.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, move on.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: You know, you get older, sometimes you get cranky, Like
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: maybe that's.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: It there is like if you're in the chata, let
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: me know, is there any other state in the country
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: that doesn't let you pump your own nookie?
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: Says a organ?
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: Or well that checked that that tracks organ is soft objectively.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: California is surprise shocking. They let you pump your own
• 19:35
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• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Anyways, Uh, the Saints very well could go linebacker at eight.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know any style is gonna make it, make
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: it to them. If he doesn't, we'll talk about maybe
• 19:50
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• 22:02
  Speaker 4: the squad. We were talking a little bit before we
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: went to break about the Saints and what they could
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: do in the draft, and they lose to Mario Davis.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: So maybe the linebacker position could be something that they
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: hit on in the first, the second, the third round.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: The first round depends on if Sonny Styles is a
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: player that is still available. If he's not, well, where
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: did the New Orleans Saints go? And I think they go.
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  Speaker 3: Across the street.
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  Speaker 4: To the LSU football facility, and so like Monsieur de
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Laine corner, Stop shaking your head. You just lost to
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Lante Taylor. He lost post the debo last year. You
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: need a corner. He's the best corner in the draft.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: You're picking at eight. The Chiefs desperately need a corner now.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: They lost two to the Rams and lost the safety
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: to the Bengals. They need dvs. They're picking right behind you.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: They could be aggressive and moving up to get ahead
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: of you for the same player I've seen marsh Monster fourth,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I think is the highest I've seen him in some
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: mock drafts. So Monster a laying somebody that everybody was
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: impressed with the combine. I was impressed with him. I
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: never had the chance to interview him until the combine
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: blew me away. Great football, like you, very well spoken,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: hell of a player. If the Saints selecd him with
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: the eighth overall pick, how was feeling you were shaking
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: your head?
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't like it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Why I like him?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Okay? Well great?
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: I mean it's the same thing as overpaying and free
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: agency for a corner. You're overpaying in your draft capital
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: for a corner like yeah, you gotta. You have to
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: find you have to have good corners to be successful
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: in the NFL as a defense.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: I got it. But you can't overpay for you think
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: selecting the top corner in the draft at eight.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: Is overpaying with the amount of needs you knit you
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: have and you have a first year or you have
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: a franchise quarterback that's in her a second year, you
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: have a second year your offensive minded head coach.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: Now if you can, if you can pick him like
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: later in the first round, you think it could be later, No,
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: he's not. He's gonna not. So Yeah, I don't. I
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: don't pass. I personally do not like to pick.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Uh tite.
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: I think this is the obvious pick at this at
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: this point. I didn't think that going into yesterday. But
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: I mean the moves you made, it's kind of your
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: biggest need as far as depth in the draft. Like
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: you need a receiver, tons of great receivers, you need
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: an ed rusher, tons of great ed rushers. Corner is
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: kind of your biggest need. Look, I don't think kool
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: Aid mcintree is a one at all. Quincy Riley maybe
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: you can have him as a cornerback two. You don't
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: have a top corner on this team right now.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: It's kind of your biggest spot, Miss Villa Reale.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: I would be for it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: I understand what you're saying, Matt, but with I agree
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: with Taylor, like with the moves that you made yesterday,
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: I think that you can get what you need left
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: in the later rounds.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: There's two types of capital out there. There's actual capital,
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: there's money, and there's draft capital. And you can't overspend
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: on either one of those things for a corner. I
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: just show me where it's worked out. Show me where
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: a team has won a championship with doing that. Maybe
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: there's an example out there, but you're gonna have to search.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: You're gonna have to look and be like, oh, yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: that's right. I think like, yeah, you can draft the
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: top ten cornerback and have a really good corner. But
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: tell me when that has equaled a championship.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I think when Jalen Rams got traded for that was
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: kind of a missing piece. But look, I get your point.
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: It almost worked in Jacksonville, like they had the game one,
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: Portals just couldn't throw the ball that day.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I do hear what you're saying, and I'm agreeing with you,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: and I think he's an incredible player. I think he's
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: not knock on. I think he's good enough to be
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: able to change the rules a bit on what you're
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: talking about. He graded out as the highest corner in
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: college football last year. There was teams that said, we're
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: not even looking your way when we game plan, and
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: you know, like you've played those guys, Lane Kippens said,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: it's like, dude, we're not throwing to you. Stop asking.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I don't even need to warm up.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: So for other corners in this draft, and this isn't
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: because he's an LSU guy. This is like actual analytics
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: and data saying, like McCoy from Tennessee is a good player.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: He's hurt, so we got to see that Hood from
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Tennessee is a good player. See Safe from South Carol
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: is a good player. Chris Johnson from San Diego State
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: is a good player. I don't even remotely think about
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: those guys early. I think Monsur is a different beast
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: than those guys. So if you selected him at eight,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: it would not be a doomsday from me. I think
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: he's a really good player that would be deserving of
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: being a top eight pick. My first choice would be
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Sunny Styles because I think the versatility he gives you.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I just don't know that he's going to be there.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: If he is, again, I'll go turn in the card
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: for Mickey. I'll be set up right next to the stage,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: just handed to me, and I would be very happy.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: You see glee on my face if I got to
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: turn that in for the Saints.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like I would prefer if I have my Saints
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: had on Yeah, like I would prefer them to go
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: and find a corner and the like it's one day
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: of free agency, like the new league you hadn't even
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: technically opened yet.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Go find secure guys.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: Don't overpay for them. Find you some good guys. Take
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: you take your corner in the draft, but don't overpay
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: for him. Now, do I have a replacement for you?
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: Like I understand what y'all are saying, Like he's a
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: deserved top ten pick, He's going to be a great
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: corner in the NFL, But like I don't and and
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: and y'all can make the argument for it, I don't
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: have and I can and I can disagree with you.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: I don't have a replacement for him because I still
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: like this is the draft. This is a perfect draft
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: if they don't have the opportunity for sunny style, like,
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: this is the opportunity to trade back and get more
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: get more picks.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna keep right. I'm gonna keep saying it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: I don't really know if anybody else is saying it,
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: maybe just because it's like against what me has always done.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: But as Mickey limis ever done this well in the
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: first day of free agency either, So maybe he's a
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: new guy. Maybe he can change.
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: Oh you kind of feeling like Kellen has a lot
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: more say than Yeah, we might be giving Ellen did
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: some of this.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I think.
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: Kellen needs a little bit of this. But I also
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: just I don't know what's going on in their front office.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: It's just it hasn't been that way until he got here.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Right as far as like the corners that maybe you
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: could afford in free agency, Cam Taylor Britt from Cincinnati,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: he's going to cost you about nine per Greg Newsom
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: from Jacksonville is going to cost you about nine. Marshaun Lattimore,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be available. He's out there.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Dreike Willing from Seattle, he's a really good players about
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: eight point one is projected, he's gonna cost you per year.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: After that, it gets a little dicey. Then you start
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: getting into Trayvon Diggs territory. He's gonna cost you about
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: seven and a half per year.
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: So it's not some would be over nine.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: It's not the best free agent market for corners.
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: I just I think there's a better line backers than
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: there are corners.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Certainly like stop gap options for a year. So bring
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: back Marshall a lot of more.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I think I think he's gonna be the pick. Now
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: if you select one of the Tennessee guys at eight,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Tennessee who volunteers, Okay, we got two corners, Sam, if
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: you select them at eight, then me and Mickey gotta.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Have a combo. We got we got problems, we got
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: throw hands.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: But I think because of the player that we're talking
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: about and the need.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: That you have there, I think Delane is good enough
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: to be the exception.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: To the r Yeah, me too. What do you think
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: if you're if you don't want to go corner, if
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: you're at eight, well you signed the running back trade?
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah right?
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: So e t N. Well, you know Mickey.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: Trading back actually like if you if you let me pick,
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: that's what I would do.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: But he's not so but he has also never done
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: this well in free agency. Like so we got to say,
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: maybe he's doing things.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: That are you gonna but who you're gonna trade with?
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Because the team that needs corner as bad as anybody's
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: right behind you. Yeah, so where they're like, you know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: like who they're gonna get, they're gonna.
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: Get with what prospect to jump there is.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: They're gonna try to get to six or seven. They're
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: not gonna try to get with you, like because they
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: think you are going to be the guy that selects
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: the corner. So you've got to find a team that
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: is willing to give up some real assets.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: Now, there's a lot of teams with real assets. I
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: was about saying, the Dallas Cowboys, the Raiders, now the Jets.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: The Raiders are probably gonna go offensive line at fourteen
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: after selecting Windows at one, even though they just signed Linderbaum.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: They need a lot of help on the offensive line still,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: and a guard at fourteen. You can make that justified.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Now the Cowboys is where it gets interesting, because they
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: like monsor de Laine, they got they need to help.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: They can move up.
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: They're a team that could jump up for Caleb Downs too.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: If they got the they got the draft treasure chance
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: to be able to do so.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: But again, guys, if any teams looking for a new
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: available we're talking about Mickey Loomis trading back in a draft.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: He's gonna do it. He's gonna do it. I believe
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: it's plus four fifty.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: I've just been burned too much from him.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Well, he's starting to heal those burn winds.
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: As long as he didn't take a line, I'm good.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: He had the best draft last year in the NFL.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: It wasn't good draft, he got an award. More.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: If you're the New Orleans Saints and Dallas calls you
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: and says, hey, for number eight, we'll give you twelve,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: a third and a sixth rounder. Yeah, because that's about
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: what it would take. Yeah, you'd move up.
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: I would because would because you might not get delayed.
• 31:49
  Speaker 9: But you can still get a top flight receiver if
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: that's what you want. You could still get an edge
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: Druscher if you wanted that and you got more draft pick.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: If like if these if if their conversations or anything
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: like media conversations like our conversation and like you're not
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: convicted on one person. Absolutely, you got so many needs,
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: like you said you could. You could get a great
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: receiver and Edgdresser in the third round, you got a
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: linebacker on this Like, there's so many things you can
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: do with those extra picks. You could even trade them.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Could be a vote, could be a vote.
• 32:26
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• 32:28
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  Speaker 6: We've talked a lot about, certainly the Saints moves yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, golf clap to Mickey, good job, good job, good job,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: keep it up.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not doing that yet.
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  Speaker 3: What you done for lately? What have you done for
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  Speaker 3: me lately?
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Let's standing ovation, It's just say we see you.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I'll give a like a hesitant like.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Let's just say Mickey Loomis has been the best GM
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: in the NFL since I've been on the show.
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  Speaker 4: Do you believe that because he had the best draft
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: class and he's doing.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: Because you can tell the best draft class after one year?
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: Obviously the hardware says you can. Matt we're talking about
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: about the Saints. But let's let's stay within their division.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: Let's check in one. Can we check in on the
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: Falcons how they're doing this off season?
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: This is your quarterback room?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh that's good?
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Perfect?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Wrong?
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: That for those listening not watching, it is a picture
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: of Michael Pinnox in a wheelchair. Looks like he just
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: up and then and then Tua getting carded on a
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: gurney off the field.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Ye.
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  Speaker 5: That's the Falcons quarterback room for two thousand and Also,
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: isn't Kirk Cousins still there?
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: Now?
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  Speaker 5: Missed that one?
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: You left?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: These pretty cool at days? It is pretty cool. So
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  Speaker 3: the Falcons, Yes, they signed to turn the ball over
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  Speaker 3: and to.
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  Speaker 5: Win the NFC South.
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  Speaker 4: They also got Eastern Stick.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, a cousin of Western Branch.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, former Chargers legend.
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  Speaker 3: Here.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm looking at this move and I'm thinking about
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: I'm thinking about a comp for this move for the Falcons.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: So two, it goes he's signing with the Falcons.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: And like I think those was it like an easy
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: move for them just because he's a lefty, Like I
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: don't know, like, but they see it seemed to be
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: his destination before this whole week even started, right, Uh,
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: that was the rumor that I was at least reading,
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: and I was trying to find a comp like, is
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: this a good move? Like who's actually going to be
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: the starterst to going in there to be the starter?
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: Is Michael Pennock's going to be healthy? He's had like
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: thirty five knee injuries in his career, his one year career.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: And I was trying to think of a comp and
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: I started looking at the Colts. If you had to
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: say who his career to this point, Who's is better
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: to his career or Daniel Jones before he went to
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: the Colts.
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  Speaker 3: Has had a better career. And I don't even think
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: it's close.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: So could this be the same situation Daniel Jones came
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: in last year and they're like, well, Anthony Richardson is here,
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: He's going to be the starter, Daniel Jones is going
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: to like Who's Like? I feel like it's a very
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: comparable situation in Atlanta than it was with the Colts.
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: Now was that a one off?
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: We've seen it happen with a lot of quarterbacks. We've
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: seen it happen with Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, We've seen
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: it happen with all these different quarterbacks reviving their career
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: somewhere else.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Right now, Tua has.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: Didn't look great a couple of times in the quarter
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: of public opinion because he kind of threw his teammates
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: under the bus. Sometimes there's a way to do that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: He didn't do it the right way. I don't think
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: like there is a way to do what he did
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: as a leader. Certainly coaches do it. Quarterbacks can do
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: it in the public eye throw throw people under the bus,
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: But there's a you gotta do it, like, it has
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: to be the right tone.
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you also yourself when you're like one of the
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: problems and you're doing that, You you can't just blame
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: it on everybody else.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: And you never know who empowered him to do that himself?
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: Was it was it the head coach? Like did somebody
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: empower him to do like? I don't know, because the
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: head coach didn't like it very much. I remember him
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: coming out and being like, uh the heill, Well somebody did,
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: But anyway, is it gonna work out? But let's just
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: say the deal for the Falcon has had these streaks
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: of greatness at Miami good.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been times he's been good in the intermediate stuff.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: He's very accurate. Yeah, and you like if I am
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: somebody like Tua Tongue Baiala and I just got released
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: and the Dolphins are paying me so I can go
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: sign a one million dollar contract, which is what he
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: got from Atlanta. And I look up and I've got
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Bijeon Bromson. I've got Coyle Pits on the franchise. Tag
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Johan and signed there yesterday. Zakia signed back there yesterday.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I've got Drake London. I'm looking at him. Austin Hooper
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: just signed. He was really good. You got weapons, they
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: got a lot of talent. So I'd be like fired up.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: I would do everything I possibly could to be at
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: my very best to try to prove everybody wrong. This
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: is his last opportunity to get a chance to like this.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: And you got dudes around you. If you don't work
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: out in Atlanta, that's on you. You also got Kevin Stefanski, who,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: regardless of what you think of him, he's been an
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: NFL Coach of the Year twice.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: You really don't have any excuses. Yeah, and I get it,
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: he's had these bad streaks. Let's can't what what percentage
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: of that can you blame on the organization, Probably a
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: decent amount of it, but for a decent of like
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: a big period of time when two is, if he's conscious,
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: he's been pretty good.
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: What I mean, it did go downhill after that to
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: your point, like.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: It's such a turd. It's true he got knocked out a.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Lot, but he got knocked out a lot.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: It's a fair point.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: And then after he got knocked out a lot, he
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: wasn't that good, rightfully, so as brain wasn't.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: Working him to throw his teammates under the bus.
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: About intermediate stuff like the Falcons last year invested a
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: lot into their own line and you could say, well,
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: got sacked a lot. Penix held into the ball a
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: lot too, like if if we can get the ball
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: out of his hands quick like their line was actually
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: pretty good, La.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: I was pretty high. Michael Pennix too, you will, I
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: mean you were hoping. I was, Yeah, you had card game.
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: You know you were vested hard out here in the
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: streets at the card game.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, let's do this. Let's take a break on time
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• 42:03
  Speaker 4: talk about the panthers, because the panthers and bucks if
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: we're standing in South. They also made some moves that
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I like, and we'll talk about them when we jump
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  Speaker 4: gonna have Mike Evans. He's on their team anymore. He's
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: three year deal with the San Francisco forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 4: He loves base cities. He loves base cities. I did
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  Speaker 4: not think he was gonna get a three years, but
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  Speaker 4: said there's a not a building tall enough for him,
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  Speaker 4: So he's going to San Francisco building. I mean, he
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  Speaker 4: just likes big cities.
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  Speaker 3: I think you know.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: There's David Busters though.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good move for.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: It's a great Dave and Busters. Yeah, when they're in
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: the draft last year.
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  Speaker 3: AnyWho.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Uh so he's going to the forty nine ers. I
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: love that move for them. It gives them actually a
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: receiver they can trust and not Brandon Ayuk or you
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: know Ricky Piersaw who has been good when he hadn't
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: been heard but he's shot. Yeah, it has got in
• 44:53
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• 44:57
  Speaker 4: actually didn't keep him out for as long as some
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: of the ankles.
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  Speaker 8: Right, he splayed more games than Brandon.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: I you that, like Mike Evans not like read about
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: the electromagnetic fields around their practice.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Issues.
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: Somebody was like Evans around the electromagnetic field is not
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: great because he was hurt all last year.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not good. I did like to move though.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Speaking of the Tampa Bay Bucks, the other Bay in
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  Speaker 4: the game, weell, I like that great, great pickup for them.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: We talked about him Tampa Bay. Oh yeah, he talked
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: about what he was for the Steelers at the end
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: of last year. He was there off, he was their
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: player MVP voted their m v P of their team. Yeah,
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: like he was incredible. I wanted him to be the same.
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: He's a good change of bays for Bucky Irvy last
• 45:40
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• 45:42
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  Speaker 6: He's a lot different. Like he can he can catch
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• 45:52
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• 45:58
  Speaker 6: was that one play towards the end. I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if it was like the game to get in the
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  Speaker 6: playoffs or right, it was a game that mattered. He
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: made an unbelievable yeah catch he was to get him
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  Speaker 6: in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.
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  Speaker 4: Helloy player Jaylen Phillips goes to the Carolina Panthers edge
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  Speaker 4: rusher one hundred and twenty million dollars, big.
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  Speaker 3: Moves, can you pick it? Goes to the Panthers as well.
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  Speaker 4: He did say a half million dollars. Memphis wasn't very
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  Speaker 4: excited about that one. All right, We'll talk more New
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