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NFL Draft March Madness: Making A Bracket For The Bears No. 25 pick · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Wendy city podcast, presented by a fan side at that man right there is Alex Shapiro and I am Kenneth Davis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't play a little game today using a little bit of March madness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to let my guy, my co-host with the most started off and kick it off and I'm going to toss it to one the only Alex Shapiro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so this used to work really well when we had three people on this show because each of us got one vote.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So three people there was always a tiebreaker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who will of us?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a little bit harder to do that because what do we do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a tie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So here's what we're going to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We are doing the March Madness.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a bracket of 16 players who the bears could take with the number 25 overall pick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I am going to be Kenneth's director of college scouting and Kenneth is going to be the GM.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to provide a little scouting report.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then Kenneth is making the pick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So again, this is a bracket seated one through 16.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and then by the end of the bracket, we will know who the bears are taking at number 25 with our little draft madness not don't get like super hung up on the seeding you might disagree with the seed I put some of the seeds together for a good conversation, okay, there's a podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a YouTube show we want us to be entertaining conversations, so please don't harass us too much on the seedings because I know I think it's going to feel easy about the seedings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, without further ado, Kenneth, are you ready to begin?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I am definitely ready to begin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have our one versus 16, that first round matchup are one seed, defensive tackle from Ohio State Caden McDonald.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now Caden McDonald sat behind Tyler Williams,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, for a time at Ohio State, but really took off as a starter of this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, it was a great read run defense and he anchored that unit, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He, he is a run stopper.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is going to help the bears stop the run as a D T 65.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a whole lot for a college D T 65.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That'll be a lot for a college D T three sex.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he is crushing the quarterback a little bit nine TFL, two force fumbles, one
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and when he was waiting under Tyler Williams, he was actually a US scholar athlete on our in 2023 and 2024 and he's a community ambassador for the Ronald McDonald House of Central Ohio.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like he's checking the high character marks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We know how much character means the Chicago Bears means to write polls.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The interviews the character with Colston Loveland.
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[SPEAKER_03]: played a big role in Colson leveling being the number 10 pick they want those high character guys that stuff matters he takes those boxes just with the community work and by the way Ben Johnson can have a little fun he lined up at full back a little bit so even Ben Johnson's like oh I could I can use this defensive tackle a little bit maybe so that is hidden.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mick Donald are number one seed going against 16 seed a man you brought to this show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to look at our senior bowl, mock draft that we did a little while ago, Kenneth Davis brought this guy to the table, Caleb Banks DT out of Florida.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is big.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is quick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is tough 35 inch arm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So obviously, really, really long.
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[SPEAKER_03]: been dealing with this nagging foot injury.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's tried to power through it instead of shutting it down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm talking about when we're talking about a tough guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When he is healthy, you could see him being an impact defensive tackle of three tech for this team, but he has been limited by the nagging injuries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Kenneth Davis, one seed, Kaden McDonald versus our 16 seed,
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I just want to give you all everything as far as my thoughts behind here as I put on my GM at for those who are listening, I'm putting on something over my head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've followed us for years, the GM had is very important to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I put it all around this time of year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I just want to give you all this just because this one in 16 does not mean that I'm going to have whichever one of these players make it to the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also I'm also adding in kind of in my head rounds to where these guys are perhaps going to be selected by the bears.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they may not make it to the end of the name 25 this is at 25 to be this is a 25 to be the I have to select a first run back yes, I have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is where it's this is why that's why it's a that's why he's a 16 seed here because this is to be the number 25.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, okay, but with, with, level, gallamore, guillymore, what is the need of a nose more than someone who's going to be a penetrating three-style technique kind of interior and a lot of defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't select Caleb Banks in the first round when his foot went out on him again at the combat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I will prefer to select Buddhist gojo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb, but I can't take him in the first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna have to take Caden even though I don't think I need another nose tackle at this point in my life, but I just, this is the first round pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I cannot spend the first round pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on a quick player with a bad foot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the second day pick for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Ryan polls kind of stay this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You think Neville Gallamore's presence on this team is going to
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to say take no's tackle off your board, but, you know, you might be more in a no's tackle, but you are looking elsewhere.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not looking at a guy who is going to be this incredible run stopper to really, really help you on first and second down and can dent the pocket a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like a, you know, we're thinking about a younger, I don't want to say, Andrew Billings tight, but, you know, he's a little bit of stuff in that run on first and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I got that in fridge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, Neville is supposed to be the billings replacement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I don't want to draft a no-stack or really in the damn first round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He better be one of the greatest no-stackles to effort no-stackles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'll take you in for my first pick, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, good, my defense has to be for me to be like, you know what I need in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A true no-stackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We must be nice all over the place like the oh we were getting to the corner back We was just not stopping the run right for me to be like I need a nose this bad But I can't take I cannot to to me if the bears at some point make a move on Caleb banks They cannot do it in the first day of the draft
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[SPEAKER_01]: That foot and I think it's something that you said he's big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's quick and that probably elusive why he's getting hurt because he might be a little bit too freaky forms his own good in the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, sometimes a player and again, he was injured, but Derek rose me, I mean, I'm in one of my close friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's always to be like, he's a Ferrari, not a GM car and what we meant was once he got smacked in a wreck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was never going to be the same because sand bill sport super cars are not the same to put back together as I'm going to the junkyard and I got a billion parts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So getting back to this I have to not go with who I prefer and take K to McDonald McDonald at 25 because I cannot select K lip in the first round with that foot popping right back up and it's set in this heart and that kid because there's nothing control in that situation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: nine game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who is going to take on Kate McDonald in the second round?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Kenneth, I have a feeling you're going to love this one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Number eight, we have CJ Allen, linebacker, Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The bears brought to Marco Jackson back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They have some free agents there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to be okay, but linebacker, but they could certainly draft and get younger and add to that room.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's without a question that they could add linebackers to that room with CJ Allen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have a guy who can like really, really play in the middle is solid in all phases.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is not going to be super exposed in past coverage compared to some of his peers in this class.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's also really instinctive and really crashes downhill on the run like he can shoot those gaps.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can diagnose a play and get in the frame.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's going to help you in the run.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to help you in the past, bunch of tackles, 88 tackles this year, ATFL, three and a half sacks, two force fumbles, fumble recovery, yet an interception two years ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So playmaker and what have we seen?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what have we said for many years together?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Adding Georgia Bulldogs, that play on that Georgia Bulldog defense?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's for success.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: See the Eagles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The buzz was he did not do really well in those combine interviews, but he's got like top 10 talent and and if there is one cop If there is one cop pro cop from a high lemons game It is fellow us each rogen almond raw St. Brown and we know Ben Johnson has been looking for his almond Rossing Brown Didn't find it last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We thought maybe D. J. Moore was gonna be that guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, guess what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: D. J. Moore's out here So it's Ben Johnson saying oh my god, listen
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know we got so many white receivers, but this guy's here at 25.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can be my Amin Ross ain't round.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He played a little bit with Caleb Williams, they overglapped for one year, played a little bit together in 2023.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ken Ben Johnson, can he resist?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pick it up, but Kyle M in and adding another white receiver, another pass catcher to this unit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Take the choice between inside linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: or the Dynamo receiver who somehow failed at 25.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My problem, one, they do not need to go receive or in the second one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first two picks, unless it's a left tackle being involved, should not go to the offensive side of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no crazy center that you have to get your hands on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I wouldn't go, those would be my only offensive picks that I would take would be in the trenches at left tackle or generational center down there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about in that past game, solid isn't what I want to hear about in coverage?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to hear that you excel in some phase, and maybe your solid in other phases, the instinctive part helps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like one didn't we pick up a receiver that people thought made it had an absolute problem last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why he fell to the second round and looped the burden.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm much of that, how much is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but when you start putting them together, the problem is when they start running them together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to separate that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't put more of them in the room, but I'm going to have to the value has me going with my Kyle Lemon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got to go with the value of where where he was supposed to go this being the first round pick and him falling to the second round where I could still get me off the ball linebacker like it again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm going against Georgia, but I can still get me off the ball line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got and again, I got Devin Bush right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like I'm worried that in the year after next, Devin Bush is going to be fighting five of the time and Chuck Norris at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: our peach of Norse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so nom, uh, the no-round house kicks, um, from Chuck, but no, this has got to be McCye, this has got to be McCye, because Allen's not, he's not doing it enough for me in the coverage game for me to be like, okay, this off the ball guy can't play downhill, but if he's got a back pedal, he can back pedal with the best of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you get your guy from S.C. being an S.C. at
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[SPEAKER_03]: We know that Ryan pulls when they run simulations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If he sees somebody there, who he doesn't think is there, he will save Ignore this simulation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what they said about Calagord.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Calagord was there for them to suck around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They said, yeah, it's no shot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we're not ignoring this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In this one out of a thousand scenario where my guy lemon is sitting in it, we're not ignoring it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the nine seed moves on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe Kenneth Davis adding another wider shape or 25.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know, I don't know me, but he did, he did all the seating, but it's on me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, man, you're making the picks up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just got a little director guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, our 512 matchup.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Number five, corner back from Tennessee, Colton Hood, this guy is a press man, press man guy, good fit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He will slide into what DNA wants to do on the edges and they lost Nishon, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Zay Fraser and Terrell Smith are still kind of question marks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do they feel good going forward with like Jalen Johnson and Tyreec Stevenson being the top guys
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or do they add to that group?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, Colton Hood is going to figure in to that competition for CB2 on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, 12, we have Caches Howell, an Eddrasher from Texas, and M. This guy is super fast, super high energy, super motor man, however, however, he's got a really short arms, can I?
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[SPEAKER_03]: under 31 inches, which is not what you want to hear from an adressor, but he has been productive despite his short arm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's been productive in 52 games between four years at Bowling Green and A&M, 27 insects, 35 and a half TFL, three force fumbles in it, a career high, 11 and a half sex, and 14 TFL last year, so it's not like he had one big year
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[SPEAKER_03]: high motor, fast guy, short arms, some production, cats, who are you picking cold and hood or caches, how old?
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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, well, I'm gonna go with this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Texas sayin' them, they have oil, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The oil money flows, that Texas sayin' them, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing, I swear to have, they have edge rushes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you're talkin' about,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what, now's Garrett I believe went there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have, what's the name Miller from Denver Broncos that went there by a mill, I was about to say, Vernon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you, so with me, I think the bears need definitely corner back help, and I hear the arms part, what the production is too crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we still haven't given the defense an impact player yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so right now, even though opposite Jalen Johnson is a question mark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to put in caches how to fit into that rotation with Austin Booker and O'Dangbo at edge to give them another wave, we'll find trying to find the corner back moving forward, but I got I have to pressure the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you, you already gave me a no stack of them, like I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get to the dare quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, love it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, our four and our 13 matchup now at four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have a guy who has increasingly had some smoke around him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is all right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Connected to the bears.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Connected to the bears a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is a manual, McNeil Warren safety out of Toledo.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is big.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is fast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is a playmaker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Five interceptions, nine force fumbles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and 11TFL.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can play in the box.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can play deep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Does this sound like anybody Kenneth Davis?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, is he just the next jacquan brisker to play alongside Kobe Bryant?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got Kobe Bryant who's going to be your free safety, but who's going to be your strong safety?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who's going to be your enforcer that like pseudo linebacker when you're in nickel is the manual McNeil Warren the man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or are we going number 13 seed Blake Miller right tackle out of Clemson now this guy is super durable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He started 54 games of Clemson pretty much all at right tackle, but he had a handful of snap snapped left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is also very big six seven 320 pounds 34 and a quarter inch arms.
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[SPEAKER_03]: but only five sex allowed total over the last three seasons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, Kenneth, are we going with the super durable right tackle who is extremely big or are we going with the big heavy hit and safety who's a playmaker?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We go on with some men you make no war.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need a right tackle, even.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a right tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I finally know that for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I only mentioned it because I know, um, last year there was a lot of talk about Arm on Membo this Arm on Membo that he was a right tackle, but a lot of people were all into the Arm on Membo game even though it was like, hey, uh, uh, uh, darn right on this team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yes, uh, I'm with you, I'm aligned.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A manual, like Neil Warren, the four seed moving on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so now we are at the six 11 game are six feet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: another safety, but out of Oregon, Dylan Phenomen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is also ranging.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is also versatile.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can play deep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can play in the box.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is also a playmaker in interceptions to first fumbles and three seasons between Purdue and Oregon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The reason he is a six seed and not a four seed, even though some people predict he will go earlier in the draft is for our purposes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's just not as big as a manual
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[SPEAKER_03]: We want the big guy, give us the big guy to play strong safety.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he is the sixth seed, 11 seed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm giving you another edge rusher to consider.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Keldrick, fuck, big boy, fits the DA size mold.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Six, six, 275 pounds, 34 and three eighths of an inch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Arms, he is young.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He turns 21, it's September.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now why is he our 11 seed?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, experts say he needs to improve defending the run.
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... but he's like a high ceiling got high ceiling if he can develop his craft if he can develop his craft learn from diodeng boat because diodeng boat by the way still on this team is probably going to be your number two pass russia if he can hone his craft on that second line be a good pass russia work on that run defense is caldric is caldric fuck the pick or is dill and thenomen
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this, this is where the scene, um, I'm going to have, you're going to make me draft like two other edge brushes by the end of this damn thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we're going to, with these guys are going to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to, we're going to, we're going to call good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go with this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just with this one, I'll go with this for the sake of argument.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go because we need depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll we could see the versatility out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do that, but a focus the guy that I want to take, but I'm going to have to take a defensive pressure later on in this situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll just.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there will be more addressers for you to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if God has so many mock drafts have going to the bears earlier on in, mocks, I know I have to select him, so I will let this edge rush or go and bring in another safety.
21:53
[SPEAKER_03]: There has certainly been some smoke connecting the phenom into the bears as well.
21:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, our three 14 matchup, three 14 as we move down as we move down the bracket.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Caden Proctor, left tackle, Alabama.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This guy is a three year starter at Alabama.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, pretty solid pedigree, very proven.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you were if started three years of Bama in the SEC, if you've seen it all, he did have a three-month stint at Iowa before his sophomore season in January, he transferred to Iowa, but then in the transfer portal again, he transferred back to Bama basically,
22:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I made a mistake leaving Bama.
22:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to come back.
22:40
[SPEAKER_03]: So he came back after three months at Iowa.
22:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Smart on the other two.
22:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Smart young men.
22:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Another dude, this guy is big.
22:48
[SPEAKER_03]: 6, 7, 350 pounds, but he can move like this guy is good in in space.
22:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And what I get too
23:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, the best of us take is like, whoa, this guy is a dynamo, he can be an absolute force at left tackle, but the lows are also pretty low and that inconsistencies like, okay, how do we work to get this guy playing at a more consistent level.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying us because I'm the bear scouting director right now, director of college scouting, that might be okay for us because by the way, Joe Tuney ain't gonna play forever.
23:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And if we need a big left guard to come in there, it might not be the worst thing in the world if we have catered brought to play a left guard.
23:50
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, by the way Ben Johnson, this is another big dude who was done some crazy stuff on offense.
23:57
[SPEAKER_03]: He has caught screen passes.
23:58
[SPEAKER_03]: He has played running back in the pistol.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has played quarterback in the wildcat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope it's pretty darn good.
24:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Guy looks pretty comfortable with the closet.
24:08
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the screen pass that you'll see.
24:10
[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to Google it on YouTube or whatever, it's a screen pass at like the 12 yard line or something.
24:16
[SPEAKER_03]: He nearly takes it into the end zone for a touchdown.
24:19
[SPEAKER_03]: You've just barely steps out of bounds before bringing the ball in.
24:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, look, there's a running back.
24:24
[SPEAKER_03]: So, so, Ben Johnson, what can you do with this enormous human being totaling the rock?
24:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, also protecting Caleb Williams.
24:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, also just destroying people out on the outside, as the point of attack, I'm like outside zone stuff.
24:40
[SPEAKER_03]: So, that's Kate and Proctor are number three seed.
24:46
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a wider receiver slash punt returner KC conception from Texas and this guy is a man beater with yards after the carry upside he is also a major threat in the return game last year.
25:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Get 25 returns for 456 yards that's an 18.2 average and two touchdowns.
25:11
[SPEAKER_03]: He won the Paul Horneg Award for most versatile player in the nation.
25:16
[SPEAKER_03]: And he also led the Aggies with 61 catches 919 yards and 9 touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's not like he's just a punk return guy.
25:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this guy also contributes on offense.
25:27
[SPEAKER_03]: So Kenneth, we're going Caden Proctor.
25:30
[SPEAKER_03]: He up and down left tackle at Alabama, where we're going Casey conception.
25:37
[SPEAKER_03]: these special teams, big play waiting to happen who's gonna help us out on offense, too.
25:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to both of their parents for knowing the power of having K as the first letter in your name.
25:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, KC's conception, I like the versatility of these brains, but you kind of get that when what you brought Raymond in from Detroit and free agency.
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So how much of that is he actually gonna get to do this season?
26:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Not to say you can't have too good return our guys, I can also play receiver.
26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But, come on, let's stop playing games.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Caden Proctor is in necessity.
26:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And before you even said, and you took the words out of my mouth, is that if you can move inside, Jalthuni is going to sooner or later be replaced hopefully later, but you would have the guy that could maybe do spot duty at left.
26:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And also one thing we've talked about in the past, is having a versatile,
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Depth swing.
26:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: What you see happens in green bay where multiple guys can play multiple positions, even if sometimes they don't like it, but you need something like that.
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have to go ahead and take Cain proctor from.
26:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Ed Drusher out of Clemson, this dude was megahyped coming into this season because in 2024, get 11 sex, 19 and a half TFL, six force fumbles, that's a lot of force fumbles, six force fumbles.
27:07
[SPEAKER_03]: So people will like yo, this guy could be a top 10 pick based on what he can do.
27:12
[SPEAKER_03]: The production this year, however, fell off, five sex, nine and a half TFLs, the
27:20
[SPEAKER_03]: died down considerably after the noticeable dip in production.
27:26
[SPEAKER_03]: But senior bowl week, all of a sudden, he looks great again.
27:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Had a great senior bowl week, often often mentioned as a standout performer.
27:36
[SPEAKER_03]: People like, oh, yeah, that TJ Parker guys that we all like.
27:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, it's pretty good.
27:40
[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty.
27:41
[SPEAKER_03]: So TJ Parker, we're just slot in right at seven.
27:46
[SPEAKER_03]: He is going
27:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Peter Woods.
27:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, Peter Woods.
27:53
[SPEAKER_03]: This guy is strong.
27:55
[SPEAKER_03]: He is powerful.
27:55
[SPEAKER_03]: He's very good on stunts, but again, shorter arms and not as much production.
28:02
[SPEAKER_03]: So kind of similar TJ Parker not so much production.
28:05
[SPEAKER_03]: This year's it as an edge rusher.
28:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Peter Woods not so much production over the last two seasons five sex 12 TFL.
28:15
[SPEAKER_03]: But as we've mentioned on this show, maybe we're not stressing the small DT thing, you know, small DTs are kind of starting to be invoked a little bit Kenneth, so are you worried about the small DT or which claims in player are you picking to move on here.
28:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know where I'm going, I'm going Peter Woods.
28:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on down, D.T.
28:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I need different types to do different things.
28:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I need a man to do a special task for me.
28:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is to get in between that garden that center.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and disrupt that quarterback.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's Peter Woods all day.
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Climpson's defense hasn't been what it was a few years ago on the day of Dabo.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But Peter, what's was one of those guys to earlier on this year when you were being the best fan knowing that they needed ET, just like Caleb Banks, who's one of those guys that jumped up early is one of the DTs that people had, a lot of thoughts about coming out of college this year, as you said, he hasn't lived up.
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Neither one have lived up to what expectations were, but I
29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I need a D.C. so I'm going with the, I need a three technique is what I mean to say and I'm going to go with Peter Woods.
29:25
[SPEAKER_03]: First, sure.
29:26
[SPEAKER_03]: The classic 10 over 7 upset our final matchup of the first round are two seed.
29:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Ed Dresser, out of Missouri, Zion, young.
29:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, meteoric riser in this pre-draft season, another splashy guy at the Senior Bowl.
29:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Zion Young, very intense, focal leader.
29:51
[SPEAKER_03]: But he also brings out energy on the field.
29:53
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like he's just all talk.
29:57
[SPEAKER_03]: He backs it up.
29:58
[SPEAKER_03]: He backs it up on the field with the energy that he's bringing out of the field.
30:01
[SPEAKER_03]: He had a career high, six and a half sacks, and 16.5 TFL last year, and experts specifically noted a big step forward in his run defense this year.
30:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is he available at 25?
30:18
[SPEAKER_03]: He's, he's not, he's not like lighten up the track field, but he brings the energy, he's getting better and better.
30:27
[SPEAKER_03]: So he is our two seed Zion young.
30:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Our 15 seed Max, he and not sure right tackle Arizona state.
30:39
[SPEAKER_03]: This guy came to football a little bit late.
30:42
[SPEAKER_03]: He started playing in juco.
30:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And experts again like Zion young noted improvement year after year after year he was another very buzzy senior bow player because well honestly Experts did not like but they saw out of him in day one, but he shook it off and again got better and better and better as the senior bow went on and it
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that shows me that, hey, we can bring him in and he will have that resilience to continue to learn in the NFL, oh, by the way, he's also a mega athletic freak.
31:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Six, six, 320 pounds, 33 and seven eighth inch arms and he ran a 491, 491, 40, so very, very athletic right now.
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I got one of those.
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so the guys I mentioned, a lot of draft boards connected.
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm going Zion, you know, got in the zoo as my last guy out of this first break around.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
31:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going with me.
31:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to improve this defense.
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like we took care of left tackle, at least we tried to take care of left tackle.
32:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Lisa was a player that's primarily played left rather than to me taking one of the right and trying to shoehorn them into being in the left tackle competition.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to take place with Willis and with Jones now proctor can join into that that battle also and as you mentioned, he adds depth if he does not win the job, perhaps being able to play guard moving to as an in as an interior line.
32:27
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's just dive right into our second round.
32:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Kenneth, what do you say?
32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Go right in.
32:32
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, we have made it to Saturday of the tournament.
32:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Caden McDonald, number one seed against Mackay Lemon, the Nines.
32:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Your nose tackle, that you're like, I have an evil gal more.
32:49
[SPEAKER_03]: With your wide receiver, you're like, this is my third wide receiver.
32:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Kenneth, I'm sure this is, yeah, I'm sure, well, I'll just let you take it from here.
32:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, I'm going right here.
33:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's simple.
33:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta go with McCoy Lemon.
33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need another nose at this point.
33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I got this one.
33:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I pointed at my nose with those listening.
33:13
[SPEAKER_01]: As a joke, but yeah, I don't need another nose tackle.
33:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Having more depth at receiver, having someone that can play IE as I'm in my same brown.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go with that.
33:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And it also gives me the ability to like we saw with DJ Moore.
33:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe one of these guys, maybe one of these guys is really good in fist-to-system, but I can use him in a trade moving forward, particularly because in this offense, the league is paying attention to this offense, and these guys' names are going to be getting out because it's been Johnson's offense.
33:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So we can bring him, we may be able to move him for a pick later, or
33:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Luke the bird and whoever, Romo Dunzay, someone may have value that I can use because I can just keep flipping these receivers, but just to be honest in this situation, I don't need to know tackle as much as I can have another threat I'm going with the threat.
33:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, our other matchup is the 12 seed, caches how all as a reminder, he is the super fast super high energy, super short arms guy with a lot of production between Bowling Green, just to say,
34:14
[SPEAKER_03]: against the four seed safety out of Toledo, our big fast playmaker at Safety Emanuel, McNeal, Warren, Kenneth, who's the thickest.
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: This one is hard.
34:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, you called me with this one.
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I really want a manual, McNeal, I really, really do.
34:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I, but I think cash is how maybe something, but I'm going to take it man, you will make new war.
34:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're going to take it man, you will make new.
34:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
34:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
34:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So actually short arms be damp.
35:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, yeah, I'm going to go with that because I'm just looking at what I need.
35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have to go with that because of the next row.
35:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that leads us to our.
35:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe it is, yeah, it is our sixy Dylan, theon.
35:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Safety from Oregon against our threeseed.
35:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Kayden Proctor, Left Tackle, Ella Bama.
35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta go with Proctor.
35:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Proctor, Left Tackle moves on, yeah, I get it, completely alive, there.
35:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
35:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And then finally to wrap up the second round, our Tennessee, the GT, that the three types,
35:58
[SPEAKER_03]: that Kenneth covered so much Peter Woods out of Clemson, you know what, five sex in two years, what, you know, with Monta Svetto and Dio Dango, maybe we'll get better.
36:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Against the two seed, the Eddresh Rotomiserie Zion, Io.
36:15
[SPEAKER_01]: We will not be filling in that three technique position in this bracket draft.
36:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We are going with Zion Jung to make it into the next round.
36:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Wonderful.
36:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, onwards, we're in the sweet 16 men, but for us, the sweet 16 is actually a final four because we really have 16 teams.
36:36
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
36:36
[SPEAKER_03]: So our final four is Mackay Lemon, who is somehow some way available to us, even though he probably won't be a manual, McGneal, Warren, the safety.
36:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Caden Proctor, the left tackle, and Zion young.
36:51
[SPEAKER_03]: the edge defender.
36:53
[SPEAKER_03]: We have two offensive players and two defensive players.
36:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Our first matchup of the final four number nine, Mokai, Lemon White or Seaver, USC, against our foreseed, a manual McNeil Warren safety out of Toledo.
37:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, the value is just going out the window, but we got to click, go, click close to home and we're going to Toledo.
37:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I need to safety more than I need a third row receiver at this point, particularly if he can be a guy that can be here for a four to six seasons, I need that guy, so going with the manual with Neil Warren and certainly a much more much much more realistic chance that a manual, but Warren.
37:48
[SPEAKER_03]: The up and down tackle three-year starter at Bama, against the meteoric risers.
37:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Zion young from Missouri.
38:01
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a hard one.
38:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I need pressure on the damn quarterback.
38:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna have to go with, I wanna say, Caden, proctor to be honest with you.
38:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Just because,
38:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You can never have enough left tackles if they're good.
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But I need to pressure the quarterback defense needs help.
38:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have to go Zion, y'know.
38:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And hopefully that other, hopefully that other Alabama tackle who is now on the Bears roster, maybe he turns into a guy, a judge or a whills.
38:38
[SPEAKER_03]: They, you know, you don't need two tackles from Alabama, you know what I'm ready.
38:42
[SPEAKER_03]: So Zion, y'know, come on down.
38:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And just like we all basically expected the bears to do, we have two defensive players left on our board, Kenneth, four, the championship round.
38:59
[SPEAKER_03]: The person who will be crowned the winner
39:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Who is the pick?
39:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it makes me a warrant to have a better career.
39:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Being honest, but I gotta get to that quarterback.
39:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have to go with Zion.
39:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more important what's in the front than in the back because if we're playing a hot in the front, we can cover up a lot more than they can in the back compared to the back playing hot, but the quarterback doesn't have to get the ball out.
39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to get that ball out quick.
39:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That part, I got to go with Zayah, you know, I got him a zoo.
39:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations, Mr. Young, the newest Chicago bear.
39:54
[SPEAKER_03]: My goodness, a month ago, we were talking about him as a day two pick.
39:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And now he's the bear's pick at number 25, at least in our fantasy land.
40:05
[SPEAKER_03]: That is not good actually to reality because, by the way, draft boards have nothing to say.
40:11
[SPEAKER_03]: So this was fun, Kenneth.
40:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Rachel, I hope you had fun going through this exercise.
40:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Rachel, I put it together.
40:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did have fun.
40:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We gotta do this again with some different players.
40:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I challenge you to do this next week with some different.
40:28
[SPEAKER_00]: My goodness.
40:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with some different players, but yeah, this one was pretty good.
40:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody shout out to Alex for putting up the season and putting all this together.
40:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He did a fantastic job.
40:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But let me ask you this.
40:39
[SPEAKER_01]: out of the players, give me two or three players that were included into these brackets that you regardless of what we did right here, really want to see on the bears, perhaps on the list of guys they would take at 25 to Benino, who falls to them.
40:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think you nailed two of them in the championship round, like
40:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, if I had done this myself, oh, man who will make no war and Zion young would probably be there towards the end.
41:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the intensity from Zion young.
41:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that he is a guy who was improving and improving and improving.
41:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And man who will make no war and it's like, you need that we've talked about all here that the bearish just need more safeties and you put him next to Kobe Bryant.
41:29
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like Kevin Byrd in Jekwann Brisker again, you're just you're good on the back end and you feel really good about that back end.
41:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not as sold on hey just because the bears have never got a more.
41:45
[SPEAKER_03]: The team is out on a nose tackle as you were obviously I made him the number one in the first round.
41:51
[SPEAKER_03]: At as kid Macdonald, yeah, I mean, this guy could go in the top 32 picks the reason I.
41:56
[SPEAKER_03]: So to pull back the curtain a little bit, it's like, okay, the bears aren't picking high in the first round.
42:01
[SPEAKER_03]: They're picking late or in the second round round.
42:03
[SPEAKER_03]: They're right.
42:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to wait another handful of picks until you get to that second round pick.
42:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Kidemic Donald is not going to be here, but that's a wrong pick.
42:10
[SPEAKER_03]: So if the bears want him on their football team, they're going to have to take him around 25 or maybe they trade back a little bit, but he's going to be going around that 25 zone and not going around, at least when I believe,
42:25
[SPEAKER_03]: not going around that second round pick.
42:27
[SPEAKER_03]: So if the bears fall in love with the player, they fall in love with the character.
42:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And they say he can help our run defense woes, which it was an issue for a lot of last year.
42:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Then again, I think people got caught up with ADP, right?
42:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Average draft position.
42:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Average draft position.
42:48
[SPEAKER_03]: That is a fantasy for balls.
42:50
[SPEAKER_03]: The ADP only happens, there is no ADP in the NFL because the draft only happens once, right?
42:57
[SPEAKER_03]: It only happens once and we've seen the bears before go and grab a guy who experts believe you should have been taken lower.
43:05
[SPEAKER_03]: They do it all the time, Ruben Hibbley, this is a guy who experts serve as a UDFA, they drafted him in the fourth round.
43:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Jervon Dexter was considered a huge reach.
43:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Darnell Wright, another guy, considered a rich people say, oh, Darnell Wright's going to go into 20s or high teens.
43:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's what they, he was 10 to the bears.
43:28
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
43:29
[SPEAKER_03]: So, so I don't get caught up in the number of it all.
43:33
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just to me, it's like, OK, I think Kitten McDowell could fit the bears.
43:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And I do think the character thing is a deal.
43:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're all good.
43:42
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's one more guy who I would call out is, is, man, it's a technology to not make it far.
43:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So many right tacos, the only one you said that they took Donnell right at 10, that they took in the DT, they could have still gotten the right taco and had a DT that goes to the Super Bowl.
44:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, that's me.
44:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's being a revisionist.
44:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you're worried about.
44:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.
44:06
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the first series.
44:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And you made that seem like that was going to derail
44:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that part?
44:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I, oh my God, what did it, then he goes on to do what?
44:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, have play for nominal football.
44:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to lack him as a person.
44:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the thing about life.
44:24
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Alex, any extra points before we get out of here?
44:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I do have an extra point because we haven't talked enough about USC today.
44:31
[SPEAKER_03]: We've talked a little bit with McCylam and I had to get a USC do it in there.
44:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And at USC, we celebrate champions.
44:41
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm tying in USC celebrating champions with a lot of my Oscar talk of the past couple months for celebrating three Trojan champions.
44:49
[SPEAKER_03]: That is one Ryan Kubler.
44:51
[SPEAKER_03]: His demand he writes scores with whose name.
44:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I sadly, I'm gonna.
44:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I know guy you're talking about the another guy you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He writes he writes the music for Ryan Kubler he's two guys met at USC the University of Southern California the greatest film school.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In the world, they each won Oscars, so congrats for sinners for their work on sinners, rank who were for screenplay, oh, you got for the music, and another Trojan one and Oscar for short film, three Trojan champions, way to go, way to bring the hardware back home.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I just wanted to celebrate three wonderful Trojan two who did great at the Oscars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, so I wanted to tell you, I, of course, was at work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when I got home, I wasn't in real time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had the cinema photographer for Centers was up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was one of the ones that they had to get because that's really one of the main things that set the movie apart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you sent me the Michael B. Jordan one, I was like, I said to after I was like another chain was snatched, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then that phrasing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So me and my buddy, you said his phrase, I just made up called chain snatcher, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the chain snatcher was a athlete who didn't seem as fast as they were without the ball as they were with the ball, i.e.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jerry Rice, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You never called Roger Rush from behind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this, but the person that this name really became,
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[SPEAKER_01]: big for with someone near, I won't say dear to our hearts with someone near to the NFC North and that's Antonio Freeman of the Green Bay Packers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Antonio Freeman was on a run during this career where he was one of the better receivers in NFL and he wasn't fast fast, but he was once he caught the ball in his hands, you were not catching up with Antonio Freeman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where the phrase change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Game speed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where the game, the change snatch is like, got it, you can't get it back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so when you sent that, it was like, oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's funny, Kintin and I, I thought some had a physical today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alex was nice enough to wait for me so we can record this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we were talking about,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about different movies and now selling him like some of my feelings about doom and how people who hyped it or whatever and visually it's always great but all the doom their initial doom and the doom remakes it's that's a part of the film it's that visually
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[SPEAKER_01]: it initially was a great bitch stunning film or whatever and talking about how I was like you really don't think you're watching the same actor when you're watching centers like it you don't think it's not like all he's playing both characters you're kind of just like those are two different people right you know you're not watching like oh man he gets to he gets to be in scenes with both of those beautiful women that's not what you're really thinking you're like that's smoke girl that stacks girl or whatever
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that how they being important and the growth because I put on this Michael B. Jordan has grown into this type of actor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has wasn't always as he was a good actor, but net and you could see just the depth of what he can do with his tools.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was good to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So shout out to you when you saw that text.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, that's who's going to get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said he got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, from creative from creative centers, like those guys have, I mean, pretty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't forget black hair.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right, of course, of course.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like these guys have had a wonderful, wonderful career together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Real station.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't even watched.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have a watch for real station.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to go back and watch it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Gotta go back and watch it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to go back and watch it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like shout out, thank you for bringing up Michael B. Jordan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about it when I had
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[SPEAKER_03]: What a performance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's on top of vampire movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, again, like I'll say the kids and I was like, I was like the vampires were just there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, that movie could have been about, I was like, it was about the great migration, blues, the milk, sin of the delta.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, and then you're like, wait, and it's vampires, like, because again, vampires, you will use it like this doesn't deserve, but it's like, no, it's one of those things where, if when the walking day was good, like the day and are just a part of this thing, really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, not to say they're not important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but it's also kind of emblematic of society or the destruction of society in a way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was good to talk, Oscar talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to bring this back in the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So good work again all around Alex, appreciate you, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure you tune in for our next episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We always appreciate you taking time, Alex and myself, we appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you be safe.
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