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- 0:03Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American
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- 1:17Speaker 2: All right. Welcome, everybody. It's October 5th, 2026. We're here
- 1:19Speaker 2: at the Why Reef High Studios in Phoenix, Arizona? I'm
- 1:25Speaker 2: a little out of it because I have been seating
- 1:27Speaker 2: the chair to Blake. You did a great job. Lots
- 1:30Speaker 2: of great reports. Thank you for holding it down. I
- 1:33Speaker 2: was off the grid for four days. I did a
- 1:36Speaker 2: really amazing camping trip with my two eldest children, and
- 1:40Speaker 2: it was great. I'm telling you people, touch grass. Go
- 1:43Speaker 2: do it. Get off your phone. It will change your
- 1:46Speaker 2: life for the better. I certainly feel that way. So
- 1:49Speaker 2: I'm catching up on the news as well, and so
- 1:51Speaker 2: we're just going to get into it. And the big
- 1:54Speaker 2: news out of the weekend, from all accounts, is what's
- 1:57Speaker 2: going on in Brazil. Heck yeah!
- 1:59Speaker 4: You know, I want to actually say this because it
- 2:02Speaker 4: feels a little crazy. One of the first things we
- 2:05Speaker 4: did when I joined the show was the last election
- 2:07Speaker 4: in Brazil, which was not a good one. It was,
- 2:10Speaker 4: of course, very close. The incumbent conservative president, Jair Bolsonaro,
- 2:15Speaker 4: I remember Charlie would always say Bolsonaro because he would
- 2:18Speaker 4: assume it was a Spanish name, but actually it is
- 2:20Speaker 4: just Bolsonaro.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Bolsonaro.
- 2:22Speaker 4: And he lost to Lula, the left-wing guy. It was
- 2:24Speaker 4: very close. It was one of those suspicious races where
- 2:28Speaker 4: all the early results were in his favor. And then
- 2:30Speaker 4: in the northeast part of the country, which is the
- 2:32Speaker 4: most left-wing, the poorest, the shadiest in a lot of ways,
- 2:36Speaker 4: late results gave Lula this very narrow victory.
- 2:40Speaker 3: And then.
- 2:41Speaker 4: They had stuff where they had kind of their version
- 2:44Speaker 4: of January 6th where some supporters of Bolsonaro occupied the
- 2:48Speaker 4: Capitol building. Bolsonaro was in Orlando for a bit. It's
- 2:51Speaker 4: been pretty dramatic. Brazil is like America, but on steroids
- 2:55Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. They have even more aggressive judges,
- 2:58Speaker 4: even more aggressive lawfare. And now they have, it looks like,
- 3:03Speaker 4: an even more dramatic comeback because Bolsonaro's son, Flavio Bolsonaro...
- 3:08Speaker 4: He ran for president against Lula. It was their first round,
- 3:12Speaker 4: and he won 47-45. It's headed to a runoff, so
- 3:16Speaker 4: it's not a secure thing yet, but it's looking... Odds
- 3:19Speaker 4: are very strong that we'll get a conservative win there.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's going to a runoff. That's going to
- 3:23Speaker 2: happen October 25th, so it's not a huge long... I
- 3:26Speaker 2: actually kind of appreciate that, that the elections happened pretty
- 3:29Speaker 2: close together. But what's interesting about this story is, as
- 3:33Speaker 2: you said, the parallels to some of the Trump saga
- 3:36Speaker 2: that we've all lived through.
- 3:37Speaker 5: I mean.
- 3:37Speaker 2: He survived an assassination attempt. They banned him for running
- 3:40Speaker 2: for office. He's now serving a 27-year sentence. His son
- 3:44Speaker 2: is running to get his father out of prison. Yes,
- 3:46Speaker 2: that is actually part of his, he's going to seek
- 3:48Speaker 2: amnesty for his father. And so what's also interesting is
- 3:52Speaker 2: that he was losing in the polls. The polls had
- 3:55Speaker 2: Lula up, and yet here they have this massive surge.
- 3:59Speaker 2: People are taken to the streets. And then what's crazy,
- 4:01Speaker 2: so obviously Flavio is the eldest son of Jair, Jair?
- 4:08Speaker 2: I've met him in person. I should know this. But
- 4:12Speaker 2: then get this. Michelle Bolsonaro, the wife and Flavio's stepmother,
- 4:16Speaker 2: she was elected senator for the federal district, her first
- 4:19Speaker 2: elected office, as the top vote getter there. Carlos Bolsonaro,
- 4:24Speaker 2: the second son, was elected senator for Santa Catarina. Jair
- 4:29Speaker 2: Renan Bolsonaro, the youngest son, who's only 28, elected to
- 4:32Speaker 2: federal deputy for Santa Catarina. Renato Bolsonaro... Jair's brother also
- 4:37Speaker 2: won a seat in Congress. And according to Brazilian reporting
- 4:40Speaker 2: on the family's results, Eduardo Bolsonaro, third son, did not run.
- 4:44Speaker 2: He has been living in the United States. So you
- 4:47Speaker 2: got the whole family right there accounted for. But yeah,
- 4:50Speaker 2: I actually met Jair before he was imprisoned. Very nice man. Very,
- 4:54Speaker 2: very gregarious. Tons of charisma. And so this is just
- 4:58Speaker 2: a fascinating story. And then on the backdrop of this,
- 5:01Speaker 2: what a lot of people are pointing out is that
- 5:04Speaker 2: since USAID has been demolished and deconstructed. You've got a
- 5:10Speaker 2: crazy trend of right-wing candidates throughout South America winning elections.
- 5:17Speaker 2: And this is the crazy part, I think, for all
- 5:20Speaker 2: of us to look at this, right? Since USAID was dismantled,
- 5:24Speaker 2: Latin America's right wing keeps winning and its left keeps losing.
- 5:29Speaker 6: So.
- 5:30Speaker 2: by an average, if you look at all this together,
- 5:32Speaker 2: plus 23 points.
- 5:33Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 5:34Speaker 2: I don't, I, I, it's, it's beyond a conspiracy theory.
- 5:37Speaker 2: It might not be, it might be causation without correlation
- 5:40Speaker 2: or correlation without causation rather, but it is fascinating.
- 5:43Speaker 4: It's really interesting to me. I doubt there's a direct
- 5:46Speaker 4: causal thing. I think one thing that actually matters a lot,
- 5:49Speaker 4: for example, is just in El Salvador, they had a Bukele.
- 5:54Speaker 4: He did a, a bunch of right-wing policies.
- 5:57Speaker 2: But is he like 90% popular?
- 5:59Speaker 4: Something like that. You know, he massively cracks down on crime,
- 6:02Speaker 4: on gangs, sends the murder rate down to practically zero,
- 6:06Speaker 4: massively fixes up the country. He kind of showed, as
- 6:09Speaker 4: people say, you can just do things, that you can
- 6:11Speaker 4: actually defeat these gangs if you are hard-headed enough. And
- 6:16Speaker 4: I think that was massively popular. All of these Latin
- 6:18Speaker 4: American countries have similar problems with a lot of cartels,
- 6:22Speaker 4: powerful gangs, sometimes gangs vestigial Marxist revolutionary groups. And he says,
- 6:27Speaker 4: if you are tough with them, you can defeat these guys.
- 6:30Speaker 4: And I think that plus a few other vibe shifts,
- 6:34Speaker 4: you know, they had a lot of these countries went
- 6:36Speaker 4: as well.
- 6:36Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 6:37Speaker 4: A lot of these countries went, yeah, they saw the
- 6:38Speaker 4: Venezuelan failure. A lot of these countries went hard on
- 6:41Speaker 4: actually immigration. They took, for example, Chile took in a
- 6:44Speaker 4: lot of Haitian immigrants proportionally, like Biden wave level amounts
- 6:47Speaker 4: of Haitian immigrants didn't go great. So I think all
- 6:50Speaker 4: of them sort of saw the failure of left-wing government
- 6:53Speaker 4: all at the same time.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Chile had a plus 16 point victory for the right
- 6:57Speaker 2: wing in December of 2025. So we're getting all these wins.
- 7:00Speaker 4: But I will say also, Mike Benz did point this out,
- 7:04Speaker 4: that when Jair Bolsonaro won in 2018, there was a
- 7:09Speaker 4: big surge in USAID funding that went to Brazil. And
- 7:13Speaker 4: it wasn't for political stuff, but it was for support
- 7:16Speaker 4: of civil society issues. And a lot of stuff that
- 7:19Speaker 4: they'll present as neutral.
- 7:20Speaker 7: Yes.
- 7:21Speaker 4: And it was like $ 80 million. Think about how much
- 7:24Speaker 4: money that would be in U.S. politics just going to
- 7:27Speaker 4: various nonprofits here. In a much poorer country like Brazil,
- 7:31Speaker 4: that can go a long way.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Yeah, and you see the map right there of all
- 7:34Speaker 2: the right. So Honduras, right wing wins by 21 points.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Costa Rica, the right wing wins by 43.6 points. Colombia,
- 7:41Speaker 2: one point. It was a squeaker. Ecuador, 11 point win. Peru, 0.3,
- 7:46Speaker 2: another squeaker, but it won. Bolivia, 23.6% right-wing win. Chile, 6%.
- 7:52Speaker 2: I mean, these are not even close calls in most
- 7:54Speaker 2: of these countries. And now Brazil, as you said, that
- 7:57Speaker 2: is almost like– so what we'll often talk about with
- 8:00Speaker 2: the United States is the demographic shifts that we've seen
- 8:03Speaker 2: in the last 40 years. It's the Brazilification of America, right?
- 8:07Speaker 2: You become much more sectarian, much more tribalized. We don't
- 8:11Speaker 2: like it. It's not a good thing. But Brazil already
- 8:14Speaker 2: has that. on steroids compared to the United States. So
- 8:17Speaker 2: a lot of what you see happening in Brazil does
- 8:20Speaker 2: feel like a mirror image of the United States. And
- 8:24Speaker 2: this is, I think, a promising trend. What's also frustrating, though, Blake,
- 8:28Speaker 2: is that you've got the whole of South America, one
- 8:30Speaker 2: of the most resource-rich environments. These countries are all going
- 8:33Speaker 2: to be working in cooperation closely with Marco Rubio at State.
- 8:38Speaker 2: These are going to be allies now. And yet we're having...
- 8:43Speaker 2: I would say a pendulum swing back in the United
- 8:45Speaker 2: States where all of a sudden DSA is popular with people,
- 8:48Speaker 2: which is terrifying, which needs to be stopped. And we're
- 8:52Speaker 2: going to talk about that as we're going to have
- 8:54Speaker 2: Jay Feeley on here in just a little bit. Then
- 8:57Speaker 2: we're going to turn our attention to Europe. So while
- 9:00Speaker 2: the West is in crisis, in some of these stories
- 9:03Speaker 2: out of England, out of France, they're terrifying. You got
- 9:06Speaker 2: migrant boats arriving at the coast of England instead of
- 9:09Speaker 2: defending their shores. They're kicking out. Local residents. We've got
- 9:13Speaker 2: riots in France. This uprising is happening throughout the West,
- 9:16Speaker 2: and it's driven by leftists. And meanwhile, in South America,
- 9:20Speaker 2: they're finally coming back to grips with common sense.
- 9:22Speaker 4: A very funny thing. In Brazil, you can vote if
- 9:25Speaker 4: you're abroad, and so there's a lot of American Brazilians
- 9:28Speaker 4: who are voting in that election. And they actually have
- 9:30Speaker 4: the results by different cities. So, for example, there's a
- 9:33Speaker 4: lot of Brazilians in Florida. They're voting hard for Bolsonaro.
- 9:36Speaker 4: So Orlando, that has a lot of votes for Bolsonaro. Miami,
- 9:39Speaker 4: I believe, was pro-Bolsonaro. And then the left-wing ones, Brazilians
- 9:43Speaker 4: who moved to D.C., oh, they're supporting Lula. Brazilians in
- 9:46Speaker 4: the Bay Area, they're supporting Lula.
- 9:47Speaker 2: That's fascinating.
- 9:48Speaker 4: It matches some funny patterns there. I'd say one of
- 9:51Speaker 4: the biggest white pills of this is if all of
- 9:53Speaker 4: those countries can swing to the right, we do have
- 9:55Speaker 4: a lot of Hispanics in the U.S. I think that
- 9:58Speaker 4: will hopefully set a trend. where they could think, oh, wait,
- 10:01Speaker 4: conservative government in Latin America is going well, is making
- 10:04Speaker 4: our home countries better. Hopefully that mentality would spill over
- 10:08Speaker 4: into the U.S.
- 10:10Speaker 2: Well, I'm a big believer. Listen, I'm the $ 20 burrito guy.
- 10:14Speaker 2: I didn't mean to be. I understand things are too expensive,
- 10:18Speaker 2: but on the home front, there is so many wins
- 10:21Speaker 2: that we need to just keep reiterating. The economy is
- 10:24Speaker 2: far better than people give it credit for. I know
- 10:26Speaker 2: a lot of us don't feel it. I know that
- 10:27Speaker 2: things are too expensive. But there are so many wins.
- 10:30Speaker 2: We cannot give up the wins that we have enjoyed,
- 10:32Speaker 2: that we're currently reaping the benefits of. We have net
- 10:36Speaker 2: negative migration out of this country. We've got to stay focused, folks.
- 10:39Speaker 2: So this Brazil election, let's throw up 145, this image.
- 10:43Speaker 2: So you've got Flavio at 47%. percent of the vote
- 10:47Speaker 2: and Lula at 45. Neither got to 50 percent. So
- 10:52Speaker 2: it will go to runoff. However, there's a lot of
- 10:54Speaker 2: right wing candidates that, you know, assuming those right wing
- 10:58Speaker 2: candidates would probably vote for Flavio. He's actually got an
- 11:01Speaker 2: amazing chance to take back power in Brazil. And another
- 11:05Speaker 2: dynamic that a lot of people are talking about is
- 11:07Speaker 2: what President Trump has pointed out. You can see it
- 11:10Speaker 2: right here, 141, Trump's truth. 125 million people voted today
- 11:14Speaker 2: in the first round of Brazil's presidential election. The results
- 11:17Speaker 2: came out shortly after the vote closed. On the same day,
- 11:19Speaker 2: in Detroit, Philadelphia, California, and numerous other U.S. cities and states,
- 11:23Speaker 2: the results, with much smaller numbers, will often take weeks
- 11:26Speaker 2: to rig. I mean, calculate. Voting in America is corrupt,
- 11:30Speaker 2: President DJT. So this is now where we kind of
- 11:33Speaker 2: turn our sights. Because... You mentioned when Lula was elected,
- 11:37Speaker 2: there was a lot of shenanigans. It seemed like the blue,
- 11:41Speaker 2: there was votes that were ginned up in those deep
- 11:44Speaker 2: liberal progressive enclaves in Brazil. So are we going to
- 11:48Speaker 2: see that again? That becomes a question, right? But it
- 11:51Speaker 2: is worth pointing out, you can count your ballots on
- 11:55Speaker 2: election day. Other countries that are far inferior to the
- 11:58Speaker 2: United States do it. And yet we insist on a
- 12:01Speaker 2: voting system that leaves us hanging in the wind and
- 12:05Speaker 2: open to shenanigans. So if you think that I'm a
- 12:07Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist for even bringing this up, maybe you should
- 12:11Speaker 2: look in the mirror and just figure out how to
- 12:14Speaker 2: count your votes on election day. Like Florida does, for example,
- 12:17Speaker 2: like Brazil does, like France does. So the fact that
- 12:20Speaker 2: we cannot have a vote count on the same day
- 12:22Speaker 2: remains an utter national disgrace.
- 12:24Speaker 4: Well, one of the favorite left-wing words of the past
- 12:26Speaker 4: decade or so is gaslighting, where they say, you know,
- 12:28Speaker 4: they just lie to you to your face about what
- 12:30Speaker 4: you can see. And the stuff about our elections is
- 12:33Speaker 4: a top example of that, that, as we see, literally
- 12:37Speaker 4: even much poorer, much less developed countries. Brazil has the
- 12:42Speaker 4: Amazon in it. If anyone had an excuse where they
- 12:45Speaker 4: could say, oh, it's going to take a while to
- 12:46Speaker 4: get some of these votes in from this random village
- 12:50Speaker 4: that's deep in the Amazon or whatever, they would have
- 12:52Speaker 4: that excuse. But in fact, of course they can count 99.9%
- 12:55Speaker 4: of their ballots in a single evening. And then here
- 13:00Speaker 4: in the U S we have to have New York
- 13:01Speaker 4: is going to take weeks to count their ballots. This cycle,
- 13:04Speaker 4: California will take possibly more than a month to count
- 13:06Speaker 4: its ballots in this cycle. And every cycle they seem
- 13:09Speaker 4: to get worse. And they're going to tell us there's
- 13:12Speaker 4: perfectly justifiable reasons for We'll get these articles from the
- 13:15Speaker 4: New York Times that say, actually, there's no evidence there's
- 13:18Speaker 4: anything untoward about this. And it's just no one believes
- 13:21Speaker 4: it because, first of all, you shouldn't allow it even
- 13:24Speaker 4: if nothing untoward is happening because it just looks wrong.
- 13:29Speaker 4: Part of running a successful democratic system, a system where
- 13:32Speaker 4: we vote, is not merely that it should be fair,
- 13:35Speaker 4: but it should look fair. That's why we have rules
- 13:36Speaker 4: about what judges can do, that judges can't do stuff
- 13:39Speaker 4: that makes them appear biased. It undermines the system. Having
- 13:43Speaker 4: an electoral system where you take weeks to count the ballots,
- 13:45Speaker 4: where there's a new dump of votes that arrived way
- 13:49Speaker 4: later than all the others, and it might be way
- 13:50Speaker 4: different from earlier votes, is going to make people say,
- 13:53Speaker 4: this system sounds phony, this system sounds BS, I don't
- 13:57Speaker 4: trust it, I'm going to embrace more radical ideology in response.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Can't allow it. Of course. That is ultimately what happens,
- 14:04Speaker 2: is the... cynicism sets in with the electorate, and they
- 14:09Speaker 2: do get more radicalized. And we're seeing that with young people,
- 14:11Speaker 2: by the way, at Turning Point, all over the country, right?
- 14:13Speaker 2: When they feel like the system is rigged against them,
- 14:16Speaker 2: that's when you get radical politics. But I want to
- 14:18Speaker 2: set this up in a bigger way here. And we
- 14:22Speaker 2: talk about how Brazil, in some ways, it's almost like
- 14:25Speaker 2: the ghost of Christmas future. This is what we're looking
- 14:29Speaker 2: at demographically. And That is what this is all about.
- 14:32Speaker 2: Why we can't have secure elections in the United States
- 14:34Speaker 2: is because they want to import new voters. That's the
- 14:37Speaker 2: whole game that this is actually what they're playing at.
- 14:40Speaker 2: And I can prove it to you. This is CNN.
- 14:43Speaker 2: They tell you, guess what? Replacement or ideology is a
- 14:47Speaker 2: conspiracy theory. Oh, but also, here's how we're going to
- 14:51Speaker 2: turn Georgia blue permanently.
- 14:52Speaker 8: Stop for we're just still a red state, a purple
- 14:55Speaker 8: state or a state about to tip blue. It's a
- 14:57Speaker 8: big and legitimate question because of the rapid pace of
- 15:00Speaker 8: demographic change here. Back in 2000, Georgia's population was 65% white.
- 15:04Speaker 3: That's down to 48% now. Blacks were 29% of the
- 15:06Speaker 3: Georgia population in 2000.
- 15:06Speaker 2: That's up to 32%.
- 15:07Speaker 8: Hispanics were 5% back in 2000, more than 12% now.
- 15:09Speaker 8: And the Asian vote is also growing fast, just 2%
- 15:10Speaker 8: of the population back in 2000, now above 5%.
- 15:25Speaker 5: So this is Marietta Campus.
- 15:28Speaker 8: Kerry Fulks lives in Atlanta, sees the change every drive
- 15:31Speaker 8: to his graduate school studies in Marietta. Suburban Cobb County
- 15:35Speaker 8: was solid red 15 years ago. Solid blue now.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Oh, you see that? It's always revealing. Yeah, but here,
- 15:42Speaker 2: this is the one-two punch. You've got to play that
- 15:44Speaker 2: clip and now listen to Bernie Sanders, who used to
- 15:47Speaker 2: be against mass migration and open borders, but he gets
- 15:49Speaker 2: it now. Check it out. Sot 1.
- 15:52Speaker 3: And what we have got to do is move forward.
- 15:55Speaker 6: This country, as soon as possible, through comprehensive immigration reform
- 16:00Speaker 6: and a path toward citizenship.
- 16:03Speaker 2: You see this? These clues are all around you. If
- 16:07Speaker 2: you can put them together, their whole point is the
- 16:10Speaker 2: Brazilification of America. That's what they want to do. So
- 16:14Speaker 2: Brazil is the ghost of Christmas future. This is what
- 16:17Speaker 2: we're looking at in our very, very near demographic future.
- 16:21Speaker 2: And it's all crazy. Brazil's a crazy place. We do
- 16:24Speaker 2: not want to emulate Brazil where they throw Bolsonaro in
- 16:27Speaker 2: prison for 27 years. We do not want that. Go ahead, Blake.
- 16:29Speaker 4: I was just thinking, you look at these videos and
- 16:31Speaker 4: they say, oh, Georgia's tilting blue. Is the narrative ever, oh,
- 16:35Speaker 4: Republican governance has failed in this rapidly growing state? No,
- 16:39Speaker 4: it's basically never that. It's always just that demographic change
- 16:42Speaker 4: changed it. I don't know that I've ever in recent
- 16:45Speaker 4: history seen a story that says this state is tilting
- 16:48Speaker 4: blue because... Democrats have won elections and done incredibly well
- 16:53Speaker 4: with their policies. It is entirely identity-based stuff, and that's
- 16:58Speaker 4: the only reason they ever stay blue. No one thinks
- 17:01Speaker 4: California is well-run.
- 17:02Speaker 6: No.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Not even Democrats think this. And what's their pitch to voters?
- 17:06Speaker 2: What's the left-wing pitch to voters? I'll show it to you.
- 17:10Speaker 2: It's not two.
- 17:11Speaker 6: Well, we're going to lower costs for the American people. How?
- 17:13Speaker 6: We've got to win the House and or the Senate.
- 17:15Speaker 6: We'll Well, how will we do this? I have legislation
- 17:18Speaker 6: with with Chris Van Hollen. We've got to get Republicans
- 17:21Speaker 6: on board. Raises taxes for people who make over a
- 17:25Speaker 6: million dollars a year in income. And it provides tax
- 17:29Speaker 6: cuts for people, individuals and even couples up to who
- 17:34Speaker 6: make up to about one.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Hundred and sixty thousand dollars a year.
- 17:37Speaker 2: That's some relief. So you see that the whole game
- 17:41Speaker 2: is there. They want demographic replacement. They want a third
- 17:45Speaker 2: world America. And then they want to tax the producers
- 17:49Speaker 2: to give money to the people they imported. It's the
- 17:52Speaker 2: whole game. The whole game is we give you free stuff.
- 17:55Speaker 2: If you come in here and we're going to pay
- 17:57Speaker 2: you with debit cards and free housing and free airfare
- 18:00Speaker 2: to the place you want to go, you can bring
- 18:02Speaker 2: in your tias and your tios and your nephews and
- 18:04Speaker 2: your nieces and we'll do this chain migration thing. And
- 18:07Speaker 2: you're going to vote Democrat because they're going to take
- 18:10Speaker 2: money from rich white people and they're going to give
- 18:13Speaker 2: it to the people they imported. It's the whole game.
- 18:16Speaker 2: It's the whole game. It's not because, to Blake's point,
- 18:18Speaker 2: that they run anything well. It's not that their progress,
- 18:22Speaker 2: as they call it, makes anything better, makes it all worse.
- 18:25Speaker 2: But that's what they want. They want to dismantle the
- 18:28Speaker 2: things that have made America productive, successful, and rich, thriving,
- 18:32Speaker 2: a beautiful place that people want to come to. Got
- 18:36Speaker 2: to stop it. Can't let it happen. Allow me to
- 18:41Speaker 2: ask you a quick question. When was the last time,
- 18:43Speaker 2: if ever... You got a second opinion on your mortgage.
- 18:46Speaker 2: Or if you're renting, have you ever wondered if owning
- 18:49Speaker 2: a home might actually be more within reach than you think?
- 18:52Speaker 2: The truth is a lot has changed over the last
- 18:54Speaker 2: few years. Home values have changed. Interest rates have changed.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Lending programs have changed. Even your financial goals have probably changed.
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- 19:57Speaker 2: online at andrewandtodd.com Jay Feeley here in studio. We're so
- 20:11Speaker 2: blessed to have him here. So you are in a dogfight,
- 20:14Speaker 2: but we're basically, based on all the polling I've seen,
- 20:18Speaker 2: and you confirmed this to me, it's like neck and neck.
- 20:21Speaker 2: It's 50-50. Which is, I can't stress enough for the
- 20:25Speaker 2: audience how important your seat is for defending Congress and
- 20:29Speaker 2: the House. We need to keep it in Republican hands.
- 20:32Speaker 2: I think you are the perfect guy for this. So
- 20:34Speaker 2: let's just start fresh with our audience, because we've already
- 20:37Speaker 2: done this, but maybe people forget. Your backstory, you were
- 20:40Speaker 2: an NFL kicker, you were a broadcaster. Let's start there.
- 20:45Speaker 3: All right.
- 20:45Speaker 9: So actually after college, I didn't get drafted. So I
- 20:49Speaker 9: didn't go right into the NFL. Where did you go
- 20:51Speaker 9: to college?
- 20:51Speaker 3: I went to Michigan.
- 20:52Speaker 5: Go Blue.
- 20:53Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that.
- 20:53Speaker 9: Won a national championship my senior year. Met my wife
- 20:56Speaker 9: at the beginning of that year. It was a pretty
- 20:58Speaker 9: good year for us. Where's Danny groaning in the background?
- 21:00Speaker 9: He's an Ohio State fan.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Go Blue.
- 21:03Speaker 9: So I became a financial advisor. I did that for
- 21:05Speaker 9: a couple of years. Opened my own office and didn't
- 21:07Speaker 9: know if I'd ever get in the NFL.
- 21:08Speaker 3: Kept doing... tryouts. My wife would, she was working too.
- 21:11Speaker 9: So literally we would go to the middle school down
- 21:13Speaker 9: the road and I would kick and she'd shag balls.
- 21:16Speaker 3: And, you know, kept the dream alive.
- 21:18Speaker 9: And, and all of a sudden I get an opportunity
- 21:20Speaker 9: to go into camp and I, I ended up winning
- 21:22Speaker 9: the job. And now you're in the NFL, you know,
- 21:24Speaker 9: I'll tell you a funny story. It's my, my rookie
- 21:28Speaker 9: year where we have a little two bedroom apartment that
- 21:30Speaker 9: we rented. We have our first child. And so, you know,
- 21:32Speaker 9: I'd go to practice games, go home and, and we
- 21:35Speaker 9: go back and this is like 2001 and, So there's
- 21:38Speaker 9: no social media.
- 21:39Speaker 3: You go back and.
- 21:39Speaker 9: You're watching ESPN and watching the highlights. And my first
- 21:43Speaker 9: game winner was on my daughter's first birthday.
- 21:45Speaker 3: We go home to our apartment. We're sitting there.
- 21:48Speaker 9: And I'm watching the highlights, and Chris Berman goes, Jay,
- 21:50Speaker 9: see me, touch me, feel me with the game winner.
- 21:53Speaker 3: So Chris Berman gives me a nickname. I'm like, this
- 21:55Speaker 3: is the greatest thing ever. Like, I've made it.
- 21:57Speaker 2: Chris Berman gave me a nickname. That was, I mean,
- 22:00Speaker 2: Chris Berman and his, like, rumbling, bumbling, stumbling. The Raiders.
- 22:06Speaker 2: The Raiders.
- 22:07Speaker 4: We want to be seeing whoop for you on election night.
- 22:09Speaker 2: I know.
- 22:10Speaker 3: So I played 14 years. I went right into broadcasting. Broadcast.
- 22:13Speaker 3: for 10 years.
- 22:14Speaker 9: You know, on the business side, I sit on a
- 22:16Speaker 9: couple of private boards, one here in Scottsdale, private companies,
- 22:19Speaker 9: and helped start a couple of other companies, one in
- 22:21Speaker 9: the longevity industry, actually, here in Arizona, and decided, though,
- 22:26Speaker 9: you know, that, honestly, it was God's push. You know,
- 22:29Speaker 9: God was pushing me. My wife kept encouraging me the
- 22:31Speaker 9: last couple years, hey, what is God's purpose for you?
- 22:34Speaker 3: Is it broadcasting?
- 22:35Speaker 9: And candidly, I kept pushing back on her like, hey,
- 22:37Speaker 9: I only have to work five months of the year.
- 22:39Speaker 9: I get seven months off. I love the job. I
- 22:41Speaker 9: got to go do football games. And I get paid
- 22:43Speaker 9: really well. Stop trying to push me out of this job.
- 22:46Speaker 9: But I did really get to that point. I felt
- 22:48Speaker 9: that way. And when President Trump was shot, I've said
- 22:51Speaker 9: that was a big moment for me where I started saying, hey,
- 22:53Speaker 9: what are you willing to give up? What comforts are
- 22:55Speaker 9: you willing to sacrifice for your country? And I have
- 22:59Speaker 9: a brother in the Coast Guard and one in the
- 23:01Speaker 9: Air Force. So You know, I know what real sacrifice is.
- 23:03Speaker 9: Running for office is not real sacrifice like serving our
- 23:06Speaker 9: country is, but it is a type of sacrifice.
- 23:09Speaker 2: Oh, it's a huge sacrifice.
- 23:10Speaker 9: And we do need people who don't need the job,
- 23:12Speaker 9: who want to go there not to enrich themselves. We
- 23:14Speaker 9: have politicians on both sides that go there to create
- 23:16Speaker 9: a career, to stay in office, to enrich themselves, and
- 23:19Speaker 9: we need the opposite. We need people that are willing
- 23:21Speaker 9: to go there sacrificially and stand up for their beliefs.
- 23:24Speaker 2: I mean, we need Christians in office. There's no question. Like,
- 23:26Speaker 2: real Christians. I remember the first time you were in
- 23:28Speaker 2: our studio, and the thing I told Tyler— When we
- 23:33Speaker 2: convened later and he was like, how did it go?
- 23:35Speaker 2: And I was like, it's amazing. I was like, Jay's
- 23:37Speaker 2: a real Christian. Like you're, you're like out of the
- 23:41Speaker 2: overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks and you spoke
- 23:44Speaker 2: so much about what your family means to you. what
- 23:47Speaker 2: your kids mean to you, the fact that they're believers,
- 23:49Speaker 2: the fact that you get to raise your kids like that.
- 23:52Speaker 2: And I could just see how much, because I feel
- 23:54Speaker 2: that too. My kids' faith and the quality of their education.
- 23:57Speaker 2: It's the number one thing. Yeah, it means everything.
- 23:59Speaker 10: That's right.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Everything else flows from the foundation of faith.
- 24:02Speaker 2: And so I really believe that we need Christians. It's
- 24:04Speaker 2: this whole like boogeyman, this Christian nationalism, all this. That's
- 24:07Speaker 2: not what this is. It's do you have values to
- 24:10Speaker 2: not be corrupted by your office? Do you have values
- 24:12Speaker 2: to put the country first, to put your values in
- 24:15Speaker 2: the public sphere and defend? like our values and traditions
- 24:19Speaker 2: and our history, our heritage.
- 24:20Speaker 4: Do you have enough values to not despise America?
- 24:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:23Speaker 4: A lot of people very clearly do.
- 24:25Speaker 9: So I start with this. I'm a sinner saved by grace,
- 24:28Speaker 9: trying to live for Christ on a daily basis. And
- 24:31Speaker 9: I don't ever try to, you know, go out there
- 24:34Speaker 9: and present an image that I'm perfect by any means,
- 24:36Speaker 9: you know, but I am trying on a daily basis.
- 24:38Speaker 9: I get up every morning, my wife and I, we
- 24:40Speaker 9: pray to put on God's armor and protection. And then
- 24:43Speaker 9: we try to honor him in everything we do, the
- 24:45Speaker 9: way in which we think the way in which we act,
- 24:47Speaker 9: the way in which we speak. And I think if
- 24:50Speaker 9: you do that, like Speaker Johnson was out here this
- 24:52Speaker 9: past week, and we did a couple events together. We
- 24:54Speaker 9: did one with some pastors where he didn't talk politics
- 24:57Speaker 9: at all, but just encouraged them. And he gave a
- 25:00Speaker 9: great quote from John Quincy Adams. And John Quincy Adams says,
- 25:03Speaker 9: duty is ours, the results are God's. And that's where
- 25:07Speaker 9: I'm residing for the next 30 days. Like, let me
- 25:09Speaker 9: do everything I can do because this seat is consequential.
- 25:13Speaker 3: It will matter.
- 25:14Speaker 9: Right now, if you look at Cook Report, there's probably
- 25:16Speaker 9: 21 seats in the house that are up for grabs.
- 25:18Speaker 3: You know, we got to win basically half those seats.
- 25:20Speaker 3: to keep the House.
- 25:21Speaker 9: And we know the difference that this country will look
- 25:24Speaker 9: like if Republicans keep the House and we're able to
- 25:27Speaker 9: then go forward the next two years and continue all
- 25:30Speaker 9: these plans that are having positive impacts on our country,
- 25:33Speaker 9: reshoring manufacturing, resetting trade parameters. The lowest crime in 60 years.
- 25:38Speaker 9: You know, the tax cuts, you know, to all the individuals,
- 25:41Speaker 9: you know, mostly which are for people that are making
- 25:44Speaker 9: less than $ 100, 000. You know, all these measures that you
- 25:47Speaker 9: can look at and say, hey, the country's on the
- 25:48Speaker 9: right track.
- 25:49Speaker 3: We're doing the right things.
- 25:50Speaker 9: Even though, you know, we want inflation to be lower
- 25:52Speaker 9: and we want costs to come down for the average individual.
- 25:55Speaker 9: But the answer is on the other side. are all
- 25:57Speaker 9: higher taxes. I heard Mark Kelly say it yesterday. They
- 25:59Speaker 9: asked him in an interview. He's like, I want to
- 26:01Speaker 9: bring down cost. And they're like, well, how do you
- 26:03Speaker 9: do that?
- 26:03Speaker 3: More taxes. That was his answer.
- 26:05Speaker 4: We were talking about this last week that they'll make
- 26:08Speaker 4: a deal out of gas prices, which we should worry about.
- 26:11Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like they're shutting down
- 26:13Speaker 4: refineries in California. Like their entire long term agenda is
- 26:17Speaker 4: make gasoline more expensive, make energy more expensive.
- 26:20Speaker 9: No question, because everything they did when they got an office,
- 26:22Speaker 9: they shut down the Keystone pipeline. They stopped the leases
- 26:26Speaker 9: in the Gulf and in the Pacific.
- 26:30Speaker 3: They stopped LNG exports.
- 26:33Speaker 9: Everything they did was based on this Green New Deal
- 26:36Speaker 9: that was going to produce less energy. And I always
- 26:39Speaker 9: give the example when I'm talking to people of Germany, because,
- 26:42Speaker 9: you know, Democrats, when they create policy, they base it
- 26:46Speaker 9: on intention. Like if the intention is good. You know,
- 26:48Speaker 9: they're trying to protect the environment. They're trying to help
- 26:51Speaker 9: poor people. If the intention is good, it's the right
- 26:52Speaker 9: policy in their minds. Whereas Republicans, conservatives, we're like, no,
- 26:55Speaker 9: if the result is good, then that's the right policy.
- 26:59Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if your intention is good, you get
- 27:00Speaker 3: the wrong policy.
- 27:01Speaker 2: I don't even buy the fact their intentions are good.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Well, I'm being as generous as I can be. You
- 27:06Speaker 3: look at California.
- 27:07Speaker 9: Gavin Newsom spends $ 37 billion on homelessness. They have twice
- 27:10Speaker 9: as many homeless.
- 27:11Speaker 3: You look at Germany.
- 27:12Speaker 9: Germany says, hey, we want to get rid of fossil fuels.
- 27:14Speaker 9: We want to go to renewables. and we'll get rid
- 27:17Speaker 9: of nuclear, and what's the end result? Their energy costs
- 27:19Speaker 9: have doubled, and they're relying on Russia, a foreign adversary,
- 27:21Speaker 9: for their energy.
- 27:23Speaker 3: Terrible policy.
- 27:23Speaker 4: I just feel like one of the best arguments in
- 27:25Speaker 4: favor of Republican governance, conservative governance, is look at any
- 27:28Speaker 4: jurisdiction at the state level where Republicans have won five
- 27:32Speaker 4: elections in a row, and then look at one where
- 27:34Speaker 4: Democrats have won five elections in a row. What are
- 27:36Speaker 4: the trajectories of those two places? And even if it's
- 27:40Speaker 4: in oh, it's a flyover state, it's boring, it almost
- 27:42Speaker 4: certainly has low cost of living, it probably has a
- 27:45Speaker 4: growing population, growing economy, all these things are going well.
- 27:48Speaker 4: And then in the Democrat states, California, Illinois, Colorado even,
- 27:52Speaker 4: the state that was booming became a blue state, and
- 27:55Speaker 4: now it's another state that people don't really want to
- 27:57Speaker 4: go there anymore.
- 28:00Speaker 2: What their plan is is demographic replacement. They're very honest
- 28:04Speaker 2: about it. Pathway to citizenship. They want the Brazilification of America.
- 28:08Speaker 2: And what they want to do is they want to
- 28:10Speaker 2: tax the productive class to the bone, and they want
- 28:13Speaker 2: to give that money in freebies and buy votes. That's
- 28:15Speaker 2: the whole plan. It's not because they're running their states well.
- 28:18Speaker 2: It's not because they're running their cities well. It's because
- 28:21Speaker 2: they're promising free giveaways to the voters they just imported.
- 28:25Speaker 9: And they're being honest about it for the first time.
- 28:27Speaker 9: So you heard Chuck Schumer. You heard Congressman Tom Swoozie
- 28:30Speaker 9: up in New York. He said, I couldn't believe this.
- 28:33Speaker 9: He said, my number one priority, the most important thing
- 28:36Speaker 9: I want to do in Congress is to give an
- 28:38Speaker 9: amnesty to the tens of millions of people that we
- 28:41Speaker 9: allowed across the border. Okay, so your number one priority
- 28:44Speaker 9: is not to protect the people of America, your constituents.
- 28:47Speaker 9: Your number one priority isn't to create the right economy
- 28:50Speaker 9: or to bring down costs. No, it's to give amnesty
- 28:52Speaker 9: to the illegals that you allowed to come across the border.
- 28:55Speaker 9: That's asinine, but thank you for being honest about it.
- 28:57Speaker 9: So that we can draw a contrast for the voters.
- 28:59Speaker 2: Well, this is Arizona Democrat Joanna Mendoza. She's literally attacking
- 29:04Speaker 2: every good thing I like about this state. Stop five.
- 29:06Speaker 11: The big, beautiful bill, tax cuts, spending cuts. Good for
- 29:09Speaker 11: Congressional District 6?
- 29:11Speaker 8: No.
- 29:11Speaker 11: We're hearing from folks that the tax cuts for billionaires
- 29:16Speaker 11: actually are hurting everyday working folks.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Oh, so like no tax on tips, no tax on overtime,
- 29:25Speaker 2: no tax on Social Security. That's actually hurting people.
- 29:28Speaker 9: Doubling the child tax credit, allowing your auto loan interest
- 29:32Speaker 9: to be deductible. By the way, that's about 70 million
- 29:36Speaker 9: people that have taken advantage on their last tax forms.
- 29:38Speaker 3: Of those specific... tax deductions.
- 29:41Speaker 9: And the majority, 90%, are under $ 100, 000. It is so
- 29:47Speaker 9: ridiculous and so asinine. And Amish says the same thing.
- 29:50Speaker 9: He says, I want to get rid of the work
- 29:52Speaker 9: and family tax cuts. It's the number one thing he
- 29:54Speaker 9: wants to do. Let's get rid of that. And at
- 29:56Speaker 9: the same time, he says, you know, I care about
- 29:58Speaker 9: affordability and I want to drive down costs.
- 29:59Speaker 7: No.
- 29:59Speaker 9: And then when they ask him, OK, how are you
- 30:02Speaker 9: going to drive down the cost of housing? More subsidies,
- 30:05Speaker 9: government subsidies. The answer is always government spending. It's always
- 30:08Speaker 9: more government control because that is the social.
- 30:10Speaker 2: It doesn't work. We've tried this so many times. All
- 30:13Speaker 2: it does is ruin things. All it does is lead
- 30:15Speaker 2: to malaise. All it does is lead to stagnation. Arizona
- 30:18Speaker 2: is like I moved here after Charlie was killed. from California.
- 30:22Speaker 2: And I came here and I instantly, you could feel
- 30:24Speaker 2: it like this is a right of center state. The
- 30:26Speaker 2: people are happy. The kids are growing up healthy. They
- 30:29Speaker 2: have choices where they send their kids to school. Businesses
- 30:32Speaker 2: are able to thrive. The cost of living is still
- 30:34Speaker 2: like reasonable, but it's, it's under threat. Like, and it,
- 30:39Speaker 2: and it's crazy. Like all you have to do is
- 30:41Speaker 2: go live where I live for five seconds and realize
- 30:44Speaker 2: the blessings of the state. We got to keep it red.
- 30:46Speaker 2: We got to keep CD one red. All right, Jay, you're,
- 30:50Speaker 2: this is an irony. I didn't realize you're running against
- 30:55Speaker 2: a socialist. And if you, if you live in the
- 30:58Speaker 2: Phoenix area, you'll see some signs that literally just have
- 31:01Speaker 2: him with Bernie Sanders. And, you know, he's like, you know,
- 31:05Speaker 2: I mean, Shah, the socialist elect your local social elect. Yeah. And, and,
- 31:09Speaker 2: but what's an irony, like, I can't even believe a
- 31:12Speaker 2: socialist is running neck and neck with you because you're
- 31:13Speaker 2: quality people. You're well-known your name ideas through the roof
- 31:17Speaker 2: around here. Um, because of all your years with the Cardinals.
- 31:21Speaker 2: But he was actually, didn't he like, wasn't he a
- 31:23Speaker 2: doctor for the team or something like this?
- 31:26Speaker 3: When I was with the Jets, when I was playing
- 31:28Speaker 3: for the Jets.
- 31:28Speaker 2: Oh, he was with the Jets, okay.
- 31:29Speaker 9: He was a sideline doctor during the games, like an
- 31:32Speaker 9: airway specialist, which is just some irony.
- 31:34Speaker 3: I was the one who figured that out.
- 31:36Speaker 9: I'm like, I think, let me see if he was
- 31:37Speaker 9: on the team, you know, working for them when I
- 31:39Speaker 9: was playing there.
- 31:40Speaker 2: What is with doctors and nurses and teachers? And they're just,
- 31:44Speaker 2: they tend to be, I don't know as much about doctors,
- 31:47Speaker 2: but those professions were the ones that celebrated Charlie's death
- 31:51Speaker 2: the most, by far the most.
- 31:53Speaker 3: One of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.
- 31:55Speaker 5: Totally.
- 31:56Speaker 2: And I don't understand what the draw is, but let's
- 31:59Speaker 2: compare and contrast you two. I mean, what's he for?
- 32:02Speaker 2: What are you for?
- 32:03Speaker 9: So the easiest way to compare and contrast it is
- 32:06Speaker 9: capitalism versus socialism. And he will try to present himself
- 32:10Speaker 9: as a moderate. That's what he's trying to do. Here's
- 32:12Speaker 9: the reality, is... He has been a Bernie Sanders guy
- 32:16Speaker 9: for 10 years. He's campaigned with Bernie Sanders. He has
- 32:18Speaker 9: credited Bernie Sanders with taking the Democrat Party from where
- 32:21Speaker 9: they were and moving them to where they are currently and.
- 32:23Speaker 3: Thinks that's a very positive thing.
- 32:25Speaker 2: He thinks that's good?
- 32:26Speaker 5: No.
- 32:26Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
- 32:27Speaker 9: Now, he had a choice in his primary because the
- 32:30Speaker 9: Democrats came out with a promise to America. It was
- 32:33Speaker 9: their pledge to repudiate the DSA, to say that we
- 32:36Speaker 9: believe in capitalism, we believe in secure borders.
- 32:38Speaker 3: He chose not to sign that pledge. So you made
- 32:41Speaker 3: it very clear.
- 32:42Speaker 9: In fact, one of his opponents in the primary, who
- 32:44Speaker 9: the DCCC endorsed, Marlene Woods, she signed the pledge. So
- 32:47Speaker 9: it's very clear, if he's honest, where he stands and
- 32:51Speaker 9: what he believes. He's donated to these groups, Indivisible and
- 32:53Speaker 9: Our Revolution, these NGOs, that you go on their websites,
- 32:56Speaker 9: it's all DSA principles. It's abolish prisons, abolish borders, get
- 33:00Speaker 9: rid of the police, abolish ICE, seize the means of production.
- 33:03Speaker 9: These are all Marxist beliefs and will fundamentally change the
- 33:07Speaker 9: very nature of our country. They want to abolish the Senate.
- 33:09Speaker 9: They want a unicameral body, one body that chooses the president.
- 33:13Speaker 9: My sixth great grandfather was Roger Sherman. Roger Sherman is
- 33:17Speaker 9: one of our founding fathers. He's the one who came
- 33:19Speaker 9: up with bicameral legislation. He's the only member who signed
- 33:23Speaker 9: all four of the founding documents. So it's personal to me.
- 33:27Speaker 9: And I think we just need to be able to say,
- 33:30Speaker 9: This is exactly what they believe. Here's the choice that
- 33:32Speaker 9: we have in this election. And, you know, he wants
- 33:36Speaker 9: Medicare for all socialized medicine. When you look at the
- 33:39Speaker 9: cost of that, and I think this is one of
- 33:40Speaker 9: the reasons why a lot of Democrats aren't doing debates
- 33:43Speaker 9: around the country and governor races here, obviously, in House seats.
- 33:47Speaker 9: He skipped a debate on PBS and two forums with
- 33:50Speaker 9: the AARP. When you promise these things, you don't want
- 33:53Speaker 9: to have to get challenged on how to pay for it,
- 33:55Speaker 9: how you're going to do it. Socialized medicine, Medicare for all,
- 33:58Speaker 9: the cost is somewhere between $ 30 and $ 50 trillion over
- 34:01Speaker 9: a 10-year period. We're $ 40 trillion in debt, and they
- 34:05Speaker 9: want to add $ 30 to $ 50.
- 34:07Speaker 3: Trillion, and they can't tell you how they're going to
- 34:09Speaker 3: pay for it.
- 34:09Speaker 9: And I'll just say, when we were talking in the
- 34:11Speaker 9: last segment about Christians and Christians getting involved, when you
- 34:15Speaker 9: look at the end result of socialized medicine, when you
- 34:17Speaker 9: look in Canada— You begin to get to a situation
- 34:21Speaker 9: where you put value on life. And in Canada, the
- 34:24Speaker 9: fourth leading cause of death right now is assisted suicide,
- 34:28Speaker 9: their MAID program. And you see lots of videos of
- 34:31Speaker 9: people that are in their 40s who are presented with
- 34:35Speaker 9: this option of assisted suicide in Canada because they're stage
- 34:37Speaker 9: four cancer.
- 34:38Speaker 3: They leave Canada. They come to Canada.
- 34:40Speaker 9: And they get the treatment that they actually need and
- 34:42Speaker 9: hopefully can save their lives. And the fact that you
- 34:44Speaker 9: get to a point where you're like, well, I don't
- 34:46Speaker 9: think your life is worth saving.
- 34:48Speaker 3: So here's an option to kill yourself.
- 34:50Speaker 9: And then I saw a story in the Netherlands where
- 34:52Speaker 9: they just had a two-year-old that they did assisted suicide on.
- 34:56Speaker 3: You know, it's insane.
- 34:58Speaker 9: Where this goes, the road that it takes us down.
- 35:00Speaker 9: It's why it's so important for Christians to get engaged
- 35:03Speaker 9: in politics.
- 35:03Speaker 3: Right now, on average, 40 million Christians don't vote.
- 35:07Speaker 2: I just looked that up.
- 35:08Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
- 35:09Speaker 9: Every presidential election since Reagan has been decided by less
- 35:13Speaker 9: than 10 million votes. And we have 40 million Christians
- 35:15Speaker 9: that sit on the sidelines. I saw some pastors who
- 35:18Speaker 9: came out and talked about it. And the reality is
- 35:20Speaker 9: I'd love to go and talk to all the churches
- 35:22Speaker 9: in the district. Even on a Saturday and sit down
- 35:25Speaker 9: and say, hey, here's who I am. This is what
- 35:27Speaker 9: I believe. Here's where my faith is. And ask any
- 35:30Speaker 9: question that you want. But so often those doors aren't open.
- 35:32Speaker 9: So many pastors are scared of allowing you to come
- 35:35Speaker 9: in and allowing even the opportunity to talk to the
- 35:38Speaker 9: people at their church.
- 35:39Speaker 2: I totally agree. It was one of Charlie's biggest pet peeves.
- 35:41Speaker 2: It's why we launched TPOSA Faith. If you seed the
- 35:44Speaker 2: public arena, nature abhors a vacuum. And guess who's going
- 35:48Speaker 2: to fill that vacuum? People who don't like our values
- 35:51Speaker 2: that don't like this country, candidly. Yeah, I mean, here
- 35:53Speaker 2: it is. Among self-identified Christians, I just looked this up
- 35:56Speaker 2: when we were talking, born-again Christians, they project about 41
- 36:01Speaker 2: million do not vote. 41 million. And if you go
- 36:05Speaker 2: to self-identified Christians who regularly attend church, about 32 million
- 36:09Speaker 2: do not vote.
- 36:10Speaker 4: It's crazy. We always get these emails where people say,
- 36:13Speaker 4: how can I help? And one of the things Charlie emphasized,
- 36:16Speaker 4: and we try to repeat, is just If you go
- 36:20Speaker 4: to church, talk to the people that you know, people
- 36:23Speaker 4: or if you're in a if you're in a shooting club,
- 36:25Speaker 4: if you're a hunter, talk to these people like people
- 36:28Speaker 4: you assume are voting actually ask because you will be
- 36:31Speaker 4: stunned over and over. They think, ah, now I forget.
- 36:34Speaker 4: I don't get around to it. Not really my thing.
- 36:37Speaker 4: And there are people who because of their priorities, their values,
- 36:39Speaker 4: what they care about, they should be on our side.
- 36:42Speaker 4: They should be engaged.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Totally.
- 36:43Speaker 3: Liberal churches are one of the most active people.
- 36:47Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 36:47Speaker 3: Liberal churches will push their idea.
- 36:49Speaker 9: Look at James Talrico and the heretic that he is
- 36:52Speaker 9: and what they push in that church, how they pervert
- 36:54Speaker 9: the Word of God for their political means. And that's
- 36:58Speaker 9: why we need to be transparent and.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Stand up against it. We had a clip in the
- 37:01Speaker 2: cold open of Talrico saying, all religions are the same
- 37:05Speaker 2: road to the same truth. And it's like, dude, you're
- 37:07Speaker 2: not a Christian.
- 37:08Speaker 9: Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and life.
- 37:10Speaker 9: No one comes to the Father but through me.
- 37:12Speaker 2: By the way, you know, this mission, this broader mission
- 37:15Speaker 2: of saving the West is, you know, the West is Christendom,
- 37:18Speaker 2: and we need to save it. There's a reason these
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- 38:29Speaker 2: is free, but the knowledge is priceless. So we've got
- 38:35Speaker 2: Nathan Kofnes up first, and we've got Rahim Kassam. So
- 38:39Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about Western civilization writ large,
- 38:42Speaker 2: in general. And there's a lot of problems, as we
- 38:45Speaker 2: have often pointed out. And Nathan Kofnes, you might remember,
- 38:49Speaker 2: we had him on the show once because of the
- 38:51Speaker 2: Arday Affair at Cambridge, where he did a substack, and
- 38:55Speaker 2: it blew up, and it ended up... You know, ending
- 38:58Speaker 2: in his ouster, Arday, Professor Arday. Well, yes.
- 39:01Speaker 4: So, I mean, just to remind people, Arday was the star,
- 39:05Speaker 4: one of the youngest black professor in Cambridge history. And
- 39:10Speaker 4: Nathan wrote a blog post that just pointed out he
- 39:12Speaker 4: is a plagiarist. He is basically a fraudster. And it
- 39:16Speaker 4: caused a whole cascade. Apparently, his whole life was a lie.
- 39:19Speaker 4: And then, unfortunately, Mr. Arday took his own life. And
- 39:23Speaker 4: then this turned around into they decided to drop the
- 39:25Speaker 4: investigation of how this happened. They basically just turned it into, well,
- 39:29Speaker 4: I think we should, well.
- 39:30Speaker 2: Nathan and describe it. Nathan, welcome back to the show.
- 39:33Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show. Thank you. Good to see you.
- 39:37Speaker 4: First of all, let's just remind people what happened after this.
- 39:41Speaker 4: They decided to turn you in. into this scapegoat villain
- 39:44Speaker 4: as if you did anything wrong by exposing someone who
- 39:48Speaker 4: was fraudulently allowed into the university by the senior people
- 39:51Speaker 4: in British academia.
- 39:53Speaker 12: Well, I mean, not to be defensive about it, but
- 39:56Speaker 12: all I did was publish one article that just said true,
- 40:01Speaker 12: was just full of true statements that Arday was a
- 40:04Speaker 12: plagiarist and a fraud and made up his life story.
- 40:07Speaker 10: I wrote one article and that was it.
- 40:11Speaker 12: In a 22-day period, the British press published 249 articles
- 40:18Speaker 12: about Jason Arday, making it a national sport to make
- 40:22Speaker 12: fun of him for every lie he ever told since
- 40:24Speaker 12: he was a kid. And then Cambridge University, after setting
- 40:30Speaker 12: Arday up for this humiliation, finally they place him under investigation,
- 40:38Speaker 12: basically force him to resign. He goes home and then
- 40:41Speaker 12: kills himself. So if one were to assign moral blame
- 40:47Speaker 12: for what happened, I would argue that I am not
- 40:54Speaker 12: the right person to point the finger at. But you
- 40:56Speaker 12: see that it was in many people's interest to scapegoat me.
- 41:02Speaker 12: In the press, the university, everybody's letting me take the
- 41:06Speaker 12: fall for the bad outcome for this So there was
- 41:12Speaker 12: a lot of hate directed at me. And in response
- 41:16Speaker 12: to that, Ghent University, which had always had it out
- 41:19Speaker 12: for me for months, suspended me. And then after mediation
- 41:27Speaker 12: by the U.S. Ambassador Bill White, the suspension was lifted.
- 41:32Speaker 12: But then they banned me from campus and from teaching
- 41:36Speaker 12: for 90 days. And In the whole confusion, a government-funded
- 41:49Speaker 12: anti-racist organization in Belgium has filed a criminal complaint against
- 41:56Speaker 12: me for racism. So now they're trying to put me
- 41:59Speaker 12: in jail.
- 42:00Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's why we invited you on here. So
- 42:02Speaker 4: this group, it's a little opaque to us in America.
- 42:05Speaker 4: It's UNIA, however they want to say it. And so
- 42:09Speaker 4: this is a private actor, but you say it is
- 42:12Speaker 4: beginning a process to potentially imprison you for bad thoughts.
- 42:16Speaker 4: And I know you state it's allegedly over a talk
- 42:20Speaker 4: that you gave last spring, but we have to presume
- 42:24Speaker 4: the main reason this is happening is likely the R-Day affair.
- 42:27Speaker 4: It made you a... acceptable target once again.
- 42:30Speaker 10: That's right.
- 42:31Speaker 12: So I gave a talk to the Catholic Flemish Student
- 42:33Speaker 12: Association in April. Afterwards, an Antifa guy wearing a keffiyeh
- 42:42Speaker 12: hurled a bottle at my face and gave me a concussion.
- 42:46Speaker 12: And I reported that to the police and everything was
- 42:48Speaker 12: on CCTV and he was identified and the prosecutor declined
- 42:52Speaker 12: to do anything about it. So that's not a crime
- 42:56Speaker 12: in Belgium. But the talk where I just described the
- 43:01Speaker 12: history of wokeism, the history of this idea that all
- 43:05Speaker 12: groups of people are innately exactly the same, that is
- 43:09Speaker 12: the crime that they're taking very seriously. This UNIA organization
- 43:15Speaker 12: that you mentioned, they are theoretically independent, but they're funded
- 43:20Speaker 12: almost entirely by the government. So the government funds them
- 43:24Speaker 12: to search for racists And when they find a racist,
- 43:28Speaker 12: they report it to the prosecutor's office. So that's the
- 43:32Speaker 12: stage that we're at. What the prosecutor decides to do
- 43:36Speaker 12: with this, we'll see. But from an American perspective, it
- 43:42Speaker 12: sounds like totally implausible that anything could come of this.
- 43:46Speaker 12: But in Europe, people do go to jail for saying
- 43:50Speaker 12: politically incorrect things.
- 43:52Speaker 2: Are you allowed to leave Belgium right now? Is that
- 43:54Speaker 2: where you're at currently?
- 43:55Speaker 10: I mean, Yes.
- 43:58Speaker 12: If they would put a hold on my passport, which
- 44:01Speaker 12: is not impossible, that would happen at a later stage.
- 44:05Speaker 3: My goodness.
- 44:07Speaker 2: So let's just lay this out. You called out Jason
- 44:10Speaker 2: Arday for being the plagiarist he was. Nobody is debating that.
- 44:13Speaker 2: Nobody has ever debunked this. No, they're not debunking your substack.
- 44:19Speaker 2: Nobody's saying that he actually wasn't a plagiarist. Everybody's acknowledging
- 44:22Speaker 2: that he was. You actually brought it to light. You
- 44:25Speaker 2: didn't write follow-up articles. You didn't attack him further. Maybe
- 44:29Speaker 2: a tweet here or there, whatever. But the British press
- 44:32Speaker 2: went crazy on this story. I mean, that's over the pond.
- 44:35Speaker 2: We were hearing about it over here like crazy. It
- 44:37Speaker 2: was also a huge story here. He then takes his
- 44:40Speaker 2: own life. There's marches in the cities in London. People
- 44:43Speaker 2: are holding up a picture of you, your name, painting
- 44:47Speaker 2: you as the villain for pointing out that this guy
- 44:49Speaker 2: was doing bad things. And now... Belgium is coming after
- 44:54Speaker 2: you and potentially going to throw you in jail, citing
- 44:57Speaker 2: as a, I would say, a convenient scapegoat some speech
- 45:02Speaker 2: that you gave about woke culture and the history of woke,
- 45:05Speaker 2: which I'm going to watch, by the way. You know,
- 45:08Speaker 2: it's like, I looked it up. This channel has a
- 45:12Speaker 2: thousand subscribers. I mean, this is obviously just a convenient
- 45:18Speaker 2: excuse to demonize you, villainize you, and imprison you because
- 45:23Speaker 2: of the Jason Arday saga. This whole thing is bonkers
- 45:27Speaker 2: to me. And I hope our State Department is communicating
- 45:30Speaker 2: with Belgium saying, you're not going to do this. You're
- 45:33Speaker 2: not going to do this to our American citizen. Is
- 45:35Speaker 2: there any update on that front?
- 45:38Speaker 12: You know, I just got in trouble. The university was
- 45:46Speaker 12: persecuting me. for my free speech, which is obviously, uh,
- 45:51Speaker 12: against American values and, uh, ambassador Bill White comes in
- 45:58Speaker 12: like a superhero and set things straight. But, you know, I,
- 46:01Speaker 12: I can't rely on the, the idea that somebody is
- 46:07Speaker 12: going to come rescue me, uh, that, but, uh, you know,
- 46:13Speaker 12: it would, I, I, I hope, uh, that there would, uh,
- 46:17Speaker 12: the Trump administration would continue to take an interest in
- 46:21Speaker 12: these kinds of matters.
- 46:22Speaker 2: They should, and they must. And we'll try and do
- 46:24Speaker 2: our part here because this is just, this is absolutely
- 46:29Speaker 2: not acceptable anywhere in the Western civilization. You were getting
- 46:35Speaker 2: punished for bad, like wrong thing, essentially, which we thought
- 46:39Speaker 2: was just, you know, a story. It was just a,
- 46:41Speaker 2: you know, these are just 1984. It's crazy the direction
- 46:43Speaker 2: that Europe has gone in.
- 46:47Speaker 4: Well, we're actually going in a good direction on speech,
- 46:49Speaker 4: I think.
- 46:49Speaker 2: Yeah, we are. But this is this can't this can't happen.
- 46:54Speaker 2: You said something in our first segment, Nathan, that I
- 46:57Speaker 2: want to revisit. You said in the American context, it
- 47:00Speaker 2: seems obscene, absurd, bizarre, implausible that anybody would be thrown
- 47:05Speaker 2: in jail for a speech they gave. Right. About wokeness
- 47:09Speaker 2: and the history of wokeness. But in the Belgian context,
- 47:12Speaker 2: that is actually quite plausible and it happens all the time.
- 47:16Speaker 2: So for our audience that is not familiar, doesn't know
- 47:19Speaker 2: what it feels like on the streets and in daily
- 47:22Speaker 2: life in Europe, what is the state of free speech
- 47:25Speaker 2: in the country you're currently residing in?
- 47:28Speaker 12: If you have a conversation with a European about free speech,
- 47:33Speaker 12: they'll say, of course, we have free speech. You're free
- 47:37Speaker 12: to say what the government says you're allowed to say.
- 47:41Speaker 12: And you say, no, that's not what I mean. Free
- 47:44Speaker 12: speech means you can say what you want to say
- 47:47Speaker 12: But your own thoughts, and even if somebody disagrees with it,
- 47:50Speaker 12: even if the government doesn't agree with it, they don't
- 47:53Speaker 12: know what you're talking about. You cannot communicate a concept.
- 47:57Speaker 12: They don't have the concept. They don't understand. If you
- 48:01Speaker 12: try to explain, well, you could say this very politically
- 48:04Speaker 12: incorrect thing in America, even something that's wrong and evil
- 48:07Speaker 12: and bad, you're still allowed to say it, you know.
- 48:11Speaker 12: They said, well, why would you be allowed to say that?
- 48:13Speaker 12: There should be a law against that. How could you
- 48:15Speaker 12: have a society if people can just say what they think?
- 48:20Speaker 12: So we have.
- 48:22Speaker 10: A very long way to go.
- 48:23Speaker 12: I don't even know how to start having a discussion
- 48:28Speaker 12: with them about free speech.
- 48:32Speaker 10: That's where we're at right now.
- 48:34Speaker 2: So we have this clip from Emmanuel Macron that I
- 48:38Speaker 2: think encapsulates kind of what you're saying. pretty about free speech.
- 48:42Speaker 2: It's him complaining about it, actually.
- 48:45Speaker 13: Because, I mean, free speech is a pure bullshit if
- 48:48Speaker 13: nobody knows how you are guided through this so-called free speech,
- 48:52Speaker 13: especially when it's to be guided from one hated speech
- 48:54Speaker 13: to another hated speech. I just want to have a
- 48:58Speaker 13: transparent road through these different speeches, and I want, by
- 49:03Speaker 13: the way, to have a sort of public order. I
- 49:05Speaker 13: want to avoid racist speech, hated speech, and so on.
- 49:09Speaker 2: This is my point. It's a sad one. Okay, so
- 49:12Speaker 2: that's him saying free speech is BS. We had to
- 49:15Speaker 2: bleep it out. He apparently knows how to swear in English.
- 49:18Speaker 2: He just throws out everything about it.
- 49:20Speaker 10: It.
- 49:21Speaker 2: It's just, I don't want racist speech.
- 49:22Speaker 4: We don't want racist speech. We want public order. It's
- 49:26Speaker 4: very funny. I was also, myself, I was looking up
- 49:28Speaker 4: Germany's basic law. It's like their constitution. And it says,
- 49:31Speaker 4: everyone has freedom of speech and there shall be no censorship.
- 49:34Speaker 4: This shall be subject to rules to protect personal honor
- 49:38Speaker 4: and young people and public. So is it really just
- 49:41Speaker 4: like that? They can't even the concept really just doesn't
- 49:45Speaker 4: make sense to them. The idea of I don't.
- 49:48Speaker 12: Know if it's just that everybody who desired freedom went
- 49:53Speaker 12: to the United States through through hundreds of years of
- 49:57Speaker 12: immigration or just it's that. Or culturally, they just somehow
- 50:04Speaker 12: never got it. But Europeans don't have the same desire
- 50:09Speaker 12: for freedom that Americans have. It's a very profound cultural difference.
- 50:19Speaker 10: I don't know exactly where it comes from.
- 50:22Speaker 4: Do you feel like, within that context, is the situation
- 50:26Speaker 4: getting worse? I mean, obviously your own case, I think,
- 50:28Speaker 4: suggests the answer. But is the situation getting noticeably worse
- 50:32Speaker 4: in the last few years? I've sort of detected this
- 50:35Speaker 4: from across the pond the way in German politics they're
- 50:39Speaker 4: talking much more openly, should we ban the AFD party
- 50:44Speaker 4: for being criminal? In France, they initiate a lot of
- 50:47Speaker 4: legal proceedings against Le Pen and other politicians for alleged
- 50:52Speaker 4: hate speech. In Britain, we hear a lot about arrests.
- 50:54Speaker 4: Is it getting just noticeably worse across the board? And
- 50:57Speaker 4: is it laws that are getting worse or just bureaucrats
- 51:00Speaker 4: are getting more aggressive?
- 51:01Speaker 2: Or is it the public sentiment?
- 51:02Speaker 4: Yeah, public sentiment, too.
- 51:04Speaker 12: They've always been like that. They've never had free speech.
- 51:08Speaker 12: They just swing between left and right-wing fascism. It's gotten
- 51:12Speaker 12: worse in the sense that they have more to cover
- 51:16Speaker 12: up and they have more that needs to be protected
- 51:20Speaker 12: from the– the critical examination that would result if we
- 51:25Speaker 12: had free speech. So with the, obviously mass immigration, many
- 51:32Speaker 12: people and the issues, that's a huge issue in Europe.
- 51:37Speaker 12: And if people have freedom of speech, then they would
- 51:41Speaker 12: say things that are, that make people.
- 51:45Speaker 10: Upset about that.
- 51:46Speaker 12: So there's a guy in Belgium, Vries, I haven't learned
- 51:51Speaker 12: any Dutch, but anyway, He cited statistics regarding immigration and crime,
- 52:02Speaker 12: and he was reported, like I was reported, he was
- 52:05Speaker 12: reported for racism. And he was ultimately, the judge said that, yes,
- 52:13Speaker 12: the statistics you cited were correct, but you're guilty of racism.
- 52:21Speaker 12: And he got a jail sentence. And the judge said,
- 52:25Speaker 12: you're not being convicted of spreading misinformation. You're being convicted
- 52:29Speaker 12: of hate speech. Because he presented the information in a
- 52:35Speaker 12: way that the judge decided.
- 52:38Speaker 10: Was motivated by hate.
- 52:41Speaker 12: So even though there was no dispute about the fact,
- 52:45Speaker 12: it was because he was hateful.
- 52:47Speaker 10: By saying the fact.
- 52:49Speaker 12: So That's why they can't have free speech, or people
- 52:55Speaker 12: would say the hateful fact, and then maybe the return
- 52:59Speaker 12: against immigration.
- 53:00Speaker 2: Well, and this is what's interesting. Mass migration has created
- 53:04Speaker 2: a far larger victim class across the West, and we
- 53:09Speaker 2: have civil rights laws and hate speech laws. And so
- 53:12Speaker 2: the body of potential victims is just expanding, expanding, expanding.
- 53:17Speaker 2: And when you... So essentially, we've created... a protection system,
- 53:21Speaker 2: a racket, to protect the mass migration that the left
- 53:24Speaker 2: so desperately wants. I mean, in France, we have parties
- 53:28Speaker 2: that are openly calling for the creolization of France. They
- 53:31Speaker 2: want the demographic replacement, and anybody that stands in the
- 53:34Speaker 2: way of that will now be persecuted.
- 53:36Speaker 4: Yeah, they could say the truth, and they're like, ah,
- 53:38Speaker 4: you said the true thing, but for the wrong reason.
- 53:41Speaker 12: People probably think I'm exaggerating, that that isn't exactly what happened.
- 53:45Speaker 10: That is exactly what happened. The judge.
- 53:49Speaker 12: Sending you to jail, you're not being prosecuted for misinformation,
- 53:54Speaker 12: you're being prosecuted for hate. So it was just simply
- 53:57Speaker 12: quoting facts, citing facts is a crime.
- 54:01Speaker 4: I think one of those memos they made once was
- 54:04Speaker 4: it cited malinformation, which is the use of likely true information,
- 54:09Speaker 4: but in evil ways. And that's one of the things
- 54:12Speaker 4: they go against.
- 54:13Speaker 2: Nathan, please keep us posted as this goes. What's happening,
- 54:17Speaker 2: this persecution... and prosecution is unacceptable, especially for an American
- 54:23Speaker 2: citizen abroad. And we'll do our part to make sure
- 54:26Speaker 2: that this stays front of mind for the State Department,
- 54:29Speaker 2: because you need to be protected against this persecution. It's vile.
- 54:34Speaker 4: Check out his substack, Nathan Kofness' newsletter substack. Be sure
- 54:38Speaker 4: to check that out. And thank you for coming on, Nathan.
- 54:41Speaker 10: Thank you.
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- 55:49Speaker 2: This has been a fascinating study in European politics.
- 55:53Speaker 4: Something is not right. Something is not right.
- 55:55Speaker 2: With those people. And we have Rahim Kassam, who is,
- 55:59Speaker 2: by the way, the National Pulse is an absolute must-read.
- 56:03Speaker 2: The National Pulse, everybody check it out. Rahim does a
- 56:06Speaker 2: great job running that website. And you'll get news from
- 56:09Speaker 2: a perspective that actually makes sense. But also, Raheem understands
- 56:13Speaker 2: the European mindset. He understands the British mindset. And he
- 56:15Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in Paris and all that stuff.
- 56:17Speaker 2: So we wanted to have him on about this. Hey, Raheem,
- 56:19Speaker 2: how are you doing, my friend? Good to see you.
- 56:22Speaker 5: I'm well. Coming to you live from London today. Thank
- 56:25Speaker 5: you for having me.
- 56:25Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Somebody's got to do it. So, Raheem,
- 56:29Speaker 2: France is burning again. And we are going to get
- 56:31Speaker 2: into England because there's a crazy story about a migrant
- 56:34Speaker 2: boat that we got to hit. And just to... The
- 56:38Speaker 2: liberal brain, the progressive brain, it's like they see a problem,
- 56:40Speaker 2: and they're like, how can we exasperate it? How can
- 56:43Speaker 2: we make it worse instead of fixing it? Anyways, France
- 56:46Speaker 2: is burning, and I don't think our audience is fully
- 56:49Speaker 2: aware of the context. The protest, I read it from
- 56:51Speaker 2: the National Pulse, your article. You had a great background
- 56:54Speaker 2: on it. The protest ostensibly began as a response to
- 56:57Speaker 2: teacher shortages, large classroom sizes— poorly maintained school infrastructure and
- 57:03Speaker 2: inadequate ventilation during recent heat waves.
- 57:05Speaker 4: Inadequate ventilation. And so that's why they're setting schools on fire.
- 57:08Speaker 4: And we also spotted some Palestinian flags.
- 57:12Speaker 2: Yes. Tell us, Rahim, what is going on in France
- 57:14Speaker 2: and how widespread is this?
- 57:16Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 57:16Speaker 11: Hence the use of the word ostensibly, because these were
- 57:20Speaker 11: the reasons that have been given by French authorities to
- 57:25Speaker 11: for riots that have now been taking place for about
- 57:29Speaker 11: a week, predominantly now with what they call migrant background individuals.
- 57:38Speaker 11: It's just a sort of euphemistic way to say migrants,
- 57:42Speaker 11: maybe illegal migrants. Almost always in such cases, people who
- 57:49Speaker 11: have entered into the country unlawfully, even though they may
- 57:52Speaker 11: currently have legal status, thanks to French government policies. And,
- 57:56Speaker 11: you know, you said we'd get to England. I'm afraid
- 57:59Speaker 11: those people will get to England as well. And that
- 58:02Speaker 11: is why the big sort of protests are kicking off
- 58:07Speaker 11: here on our south coast because they're looking at places
- 58:11Speaker 11: like Paris, because they're looking at northern France, because they're
- 58:14Speaker 11: looking at other parts of the continent whereby these people who, remember,
- 58:19Speaker 11: did not come to Europe, did not get there of
- 58:26Speaker 11: their own volition, but were brought to Europe by the
- 58:30Speaker 11: likes of Angela Merkel in 2015, when she said, everybody,
- 58:34Speaker 11: come one, come all, we can do this. You're all
- 58:36Speaker 11: doctors and nurses and engineers and scientists and nuclear physicists
- 58:42Speaker 11: from Angola, and we'd love to have you. And they
- 58:46Speaker 11: were also brought by these aid organizations, and these aid
- 58:50Speaker 11: organizations coming under intense pressure Scrutiny now, especially in England,
- 58:56Speaker 11: because fundamentally, what do we have here?
- 59:00Speaker 5: We have a modern day slave trade.
- 59:02Speaker 11: You know, these people are coming over and effectively entering
- 59:04Speaker 11: into indentured servitude to the people who they paid to
- 59:07Speaker 11: bring them over.
- 59:08Speaker 5: These are criminal gangsters.
- 59:10Speaker 11: They are mass human trafficking organizations. And I, you know,
- 59:14Speaker 11: sitting here in the country of William Wilberforce, can't help
- 59:19Speaker 11: but think that he may be rolling in his grave
- 59:21Speaker 11: just about a half mile down the road from where
- 59:23Speaker 11: I sit in Westminster Abbey to think that the governments
- 59:27Speaker 11: of these countries are are not just bystanders, not just feckless,
- 59:32Speaker 11: not just illegitimate entities. I mean, we don't even have
- 59:36Speaker 11: an elected prime minister in this country, but a complicit, actually.
- 59:41Speaker 11: And that Andy Burnham in the United Kingdom and that
- 59:45Speaker 11: Emmanuel Macron are actually traffickers themselves.
- 59:50Speaker 2: I think that's, honestly, I know that's not the way
- 59:53Speaker 2: the media paints it, but you're 100% right. We have
- 59:55Speaker 2: been subjected to this mass migration that nobody voted for,
- 59:58Speaker 2: nobody wanted, nobody set out and said, hey, I want
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: to see the demographic replacement of all of Europe and
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: all of America, and I want to see it done
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: in 20, 30 years. But this has been absolutely the
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: project of the bureaucrat class, and Europe has got it
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: worse than some and most because it happens to be
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: right next door to Muslim countries in the Middle East.
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: That's where the refugees come from. I thank the Lord. Listen,
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: I can't stand illegal immigration, but I thank the Lord
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: that at least to our south we have Catholics. The
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: Muslim situation. I want to show a picture, though. Throw
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: this picture. I zoomed in on this picture of this police,
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: or I guess it was a fireman, a firefighter in
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: France that was caught on fire. There was some rubbish,
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: as you would say. Yeah, burning trash, set off an
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: aerosol cam, blew up.
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: In his face.
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: Yeah, but look at the faces of these kids. When
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: the average American thinks of French immigrants school-aged kids that
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: are old enough to be riding out. Is this the picture?
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: I mean, look at this. These are all minorities. All
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: of them. I mean, maybe there's a few non-minorities. This
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: is the future of France. I mean, we saw this
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: maybe a little bit in the World Cup. But this is,
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: I mean, it's so much more drastic than I think
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: people over 50 probably assume. But the demographic replacement, Raheem,
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: is dramatic. And you're in London, and you could probably
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: feel it there. I mean, It's dramatic. From 2000 to 2026,
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: it's just transformed the entirety of that city.
- 1:01:29Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I mean, I wrote a book about this
- 1:01:32Speaker 11: in 2015 and 16 called No-Go Zones, where I went
- 1:01:36Speaker 11: around to increasingly Muslim and Arab-dominated neighborhoods, not just across Europe,
- 1:01:41Speaker 11: but in the United States as well. I remember writing
- 1:01:44Speaker 11: about Dearborn and writing about Hamtramck and warning people. The
- 1:01:48Speaker 11: subtitle of the book was How Sharia is Coming to
- 1:01:50Speaker 11: a Neighborhood Near You. And, you know, of course, I
- 1:01:53Speaker 11: was called an alarmist and a racist and you name it.
- 1:01:57Speaker 5: But actually, actually, if you go back.
- 1:02:01Speaker 11: And look at the prognostications that I made in that book,
- 1:02:04Speaker 11: I kind of regret not going further. I don't think
- 1:02:07Speaker 11: I actually went far enough. And remember at the time
- 1:02:11Speaker 11: how hard it was to talk about those issues and
- 1:02:13Speaker 11: how hard it was to get, you know, people actually
- 1:02:16Speaker 11: discussing them around the dinner table and discussing them on news.
- 1:02:20Speaker 5: And all of this stuff. And of course, look at today.
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: Look at today in Michigan.
- 1:02:24Speaker 11: I said at the time, Michigan is trending in a
- 1:02:27Speaker 11: direction where you're going to have these issues, not just
- 1:02:29Speaker 11: written to certain neighborhoods like Dearborn and Amtramck, but actually
- 1:02:32Speaker 11: writ statewide. Oh, Rahim, you're crazy. You're a crazy person.
- 1:02:37Speaker 11: We can't have you talking about such things on television shows.
- 1:02:41Speaker 11: And so we'll never invite you back again. And that,
- 1:02:44Speaker 11: by the way, applies to some of the largest, I
- 1:02:46Speaker 11: won't get into naming names here, largest supposedly centre-right broadcasters
- 1:02:52Speaker 11: in the United States, just disappeared from their airwaves overnight
- 1:02:57Speaker 11: after writing that book.
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: So, yes, you can see it here in London. Yes,
- 1:03:00Speaker 5: you can absolutely feel it in France.
- 1:03:02Speaker 11: And when you look at the riots and protests and
- 1:03:04Speaker 11: things like that that are going on, one other thing
- 1:03:06Speaker 11: has to be mentioned.
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: They're not stopping them. They're barely trying to stop them.
- 1:03:14Speaker 11: These guys are now teamed up with Mélenchon, who is
- 1:03:16Speaker 11: the far-left leader, the communist leader, in France, and they
- 1:03:21Speaker 11: are being egged on by the very types of people
- 1:03:23Speaker 11: that the French left seek to become their next presidents
- 1:03:27Speaker 11: and prime ministers. This Islamification has undergone an intense institutionalization
- 1:03:36Speaker 11: in the last 18 months, and you're seeing it in
- 1:03:39Speaker 11: the US too?
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: That's just terrifying, is because, you know, I am a,
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: I'm a Europhile, I'm an Anglophile, This is what gave
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: birth to the American experiment and this beautiful land that
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: we love. So to see Europe come to such straits,
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: self-imposed by a demographic replacement that they are now feckless
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: and unable to stop because it has been institutionalized is very,
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: very troubling. Yeah, ask your thing. No, I have a
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: clip I want to play because it does relate to
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: domestic politics. And we have a midterm coming up. I
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: understand prices of gas are high. There's frustration in the base.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: But look at what we have accomplished. And the contrast
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: with Europe and what they're going through is so stark.
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: Sat 10.
- 1:04:31Speaker 7: The Donald Trump administration is arguably the most influential this
- 1:04:35Speaker 7: century and probably as well dating back a good portion
- 1:04:38Speaker 7: of the last century as well. Trump ran and has
- 1:04:41Speaker 7: always run on a very hawkish immigration platform. Get this
- 1:04:45Speaker 7: 2025 net migration in the United States down at least
- 1:04:48Speaker 7: 60 percent from last year. In fact, we may be
- 1:04:51Speaker 7: heading for the first time and at least 50 years
- 1:04:54Speaker 7: in which we have net negative, net negative migration into
- 1:04:58Speaker 7: the United States. And last year, of course, in 2024,
- 1:05:02Speaker 7: the net migration in the U.S. was 2.8 million. This year,
- 1:05:05Speaker 7: we might be talking about negative net migration. My goodness gracious.
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: How significant is that, Rahim? You're a student of history
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: and living memory, basically. He said 50 years. I think
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: in living memory, we haven't seen this. How significant is
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: this one issue to the future of Western civilizations?
- 1:05:23Speaker 11: Well, massive because, and not least because of the impact
- 1:05:27Speaker 11: that it's also now having around the world. So to
- 1:05:30Speaker 11: European nations, and you're seeing it in Germany with the
- 1:05:32Speaker 11: alternative of Deutschland, you're seeing with the rise of Marine
- 1:05:35Speaker 11: Le Pen, you're seeing it here in the United Kingdom
- 1:05:38Speaker 11: now too, is all of these guys have gone from, well,
- 1:05:42Speaker 11: you know, we can cut immigration to actually, no, we've
- 1:05:45Speaker 11: got to follow those guys.
- 1:05:46Speaker 5: We've got to follow our American friends. We've got to
- 1:05:47Speaker 5: have negative net migration.
- 1:05:51Speaker 11: The only problem is, that we worry at the moment
- 1:05:54Speaker 11: because we don't just have an immigration crisis.
- 1:05:56Speaker 5: We have an emigration crisis.
- 1:05:58Speaker 11: You know, young white people are leaving this country. Wealthy
- 1:06:02Speaker 11: people are leaving this country. The job creators are leaving
- 1:06:06Speaker 11: this country. And so it's not even just enough now
- 1:06:09Speaker 11: to talk about net negative migration.
- 1:06:11Speaker 5: You also have to get into who that.
- 1:06:13Speaker 11: Means is leaving, because otherwise you're going to just end
- 1:06:15Speaker 11: up chasing away people you want here and calling it
- 1:06:18Speaker 11: net negative migration.
- 1:06:20Speaker 6: Hmm.
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, that's I actually hadn't thought about that,
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: but that does make a lot of sense. I mean,
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: we're I don't know where they're going to go because
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: America is embracing DSA right now. So, I mean, if
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: you're betting on the futures here, we're going to have
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: potentially a lot more DSA candidates win, enter office and
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: keep promoting the same malaise that is so burdened parts
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: of Europe, including England, Rahim. So I think this is
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: endemic across. I get maybe you go to South America.
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: Maybe that's where you go. South America, they seem to
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: be going right right now. So I don't know what
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: the answer is. Rahim, you are so important to the
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: conservative movement in the U.K. I really think people do
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: not appreciate how instrumental you have been, both with Blexit,
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: the rise of Nigel Farage. Brexit.
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: Actual Brexit.
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: Yeah, what I said.
- 1:07:11Speaker 4: He said Blexit.
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: Oh, that's funny. Oh, well. Now known as Rise, by
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: the way. Now known as Rise. But Brexit. So and
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: you have been there from such an early state and
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: people understand, you know, it intimately well. And you know
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: how important the immigration topic is. The migration topic is
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: to Nigel Farage and reform. So but this is crazy.
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: And I'm going to read a tweet from Patrick Christos.
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: He says, we are through the looking glass now. Police
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: have put an entire British town under something called Section
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: 34 dispersal order. meaning they can even order residents to
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: leave and not return just so they can import a
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: boat full of illegal migrants. This is like bananas. So
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: this boat arrives on the shore. What is Section 34?
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: I mean, this just seems bizarre to an American context.
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: Like somebody comes in and tells me I have to
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: leave my house because migrants have to come in. Like
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: what is actually going on? Separate fact from fiction here, Raheem.
- 1:08:11Speaker 5: Well, I'm afraid the fact sounds like fiction, right? I mean, the.
- 1:08:20Speaker 11: Anarcho-tyranny, the reality of what's going on in small English towns,
- 1:08:27Speaker 11: not just on the coast, by the way. It's like
- 1:08:30Speaker 11: you had, you know, under Joe Biden, every town's a
- 1:08:33Speaker 11: border town now, because these people, these migrants who come
- 1:08:36Speaker 11: in on these, you know, what are deemed small boats...
- 1:08:40Speaker 11: We'll get into that in a second, the nomenclature that's used.
- 1:08:44Speaker 11: They're actually dispersed all around the country. But this is
- 1:08:48Speaker 11: a particular example on the southern coast of England that's
- 1:08:51Speaker 11: taken place overnight last night. And I don't want people
- 1:08:54Speaker 11: to think that these are just you know, one-offs, that
- 1:08:57Speaker 11: this happens maybe once.
- 1:08:58Speaker 5: Every two or three months or anything like that. No, no, no, no.
- 1:09:02Speaker 11: This sort of thing is happening every day or at
- 1:09:04Speaker 11: least every other day. The scale of it may differ.
- 1:09:10Speaker 11: But you're talking about several hundred migrants that, again, to
- 1:09:15Speaker 11: recap what we were talking about in the last block,
- 1:09:19Speaker 11: are pushed into Europe, are pushed into France, make their
- 1:09:23Speaker 11: way through France, get to northern France, get to places
- 1:09:26Speaker 11: like Calais, paying human traffickers all along the way. You know,
- 1:09:32Speaker 11: the Home Secretary who's in charge of immigration, the minister
- 1:09:35Speaker 11: who's in charge of immigration in the United Kingdom today said,
- 1:09:39Speaker 11: that no woman on that entire route, no migrant woman
- 1:09:43Speaker 11: on that entire route has not been raped, by the way.
- 1:09:46Speaker 11: So this is the sorts of things that they're aware of.
- 1:09:51Speaker 11: And then they take these little dinghies, right? Well, they
- 1:09:53Speaker 11: used to be little dinghies. Now they've gotten quite big.
- 1:09:57Speaker 11: About two weeks ago, you had several hundred people on
- 1:10:01Speaker 11: one of these. I mean, it's literally a scene where
- 1:10:04Speaker 11: out of Camp of the Saints, which a lot of
- 1:10:07Speaker 11: the audience will hopefully be aware of, the 19th Congress
- 1:10:12Speaker 11: spy book. Now, what will happen is these people will
- 1:10:17Speaker 11: get within a couple of dozen miles of the British coastline,
- 1:10:21Speaker 11: and then the British Coast Guard or the Lifeguard will
- 1:10:25Speaker 11: go out and rescue that boat using British taxpayer resources,
- 1:10:31Speaker 11: bring those people into port, and process them, taking asylum claims,
- 1:10:39Speaker 11: all of this sort of thing. In this town, Gosport,
- 1:10:42Speaker 11: I mean, there have been protests all across the summer
- 1:10:45Speaker 11: about this stuff. But in this one particular town, I mean,
- 1:10:47Speaker 11: people are so reasonably irate that they've been taken into
- 1:10:52Speaker 11: the streets. They've been protesting. They've been using what should
- 1:10:56Speaker 11: be a right to free speech and free assembly. And
- 1:10:58Speaker 11: the police, in response, have issued this Section 34 order
- 1:11:03Speaker 11: It's a dispersal order. It's meant for situations wherein criminal
- 1:11:10Speaker 11: gangs are trying to take over cities. And there has
- 1:11:13Speaker 11: to be an element of sort of what you would
- 1:11:15Speaker 11: call martial law. But in this instance, it's being used
- 1:11:18Speaker 11: to suppress ordinary people in the town from even leaving
- 1:11:22Speaker 11: their homes so that they may not join protests, so
- 1:11:25Speaker 11: that they may not demonstrate. I mean, a lot of
- 1:11:27Speaker 11: these people have taken it upon themselves to sort of
- 1:11:29Speaker 11: lay nails on across roadways so that these migrants cannot
- 1:11:34Speaker 11: go any further than the port you know because otherwise
- 1:11:36Speaker 11: they're bussed to all different parts of the country they're
- 1:11:39Speaker 11: bussed to nice swanky hotels all around the country they're
- 1:11:42Speaker 11: put up at enormous taxpayer expense by the way i'm
- 1:11:44Speaker 11: talking billions and billions um across across the years that
- 1:11:48Speaker 11: this has been going on and um you know now
- 1:11:53Speaker 11: we're seeing again to stress this point this kind of
- 1:11:55Speaker 11: anarcho-tyranny that's.
- 1:11:57Speaker 5: Going on in the.
- 1:12:00Speaker 11: Are aimed at the ordinary law-abiding citizens for simply speaking
- 1:12:04Speaker 11: their minds, rather than the criminal illegal aliens who are
- 1:12:08Speaker 11: breaking into the country and causing havoc.
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: Yeah, Rahim, it's just, I feel, I talk to my friends,
- 1:12:15Speaker 4: I have some friends in Britain, and it feels like
- 1:12:17Speaker 4: every day there's headlines that are bafflingly insane. I just
- 1:12:21Speaker 4: saw this one. A man who tried to break into
- 1:12:23Speaker 4: the Israeli embassy in London to carry out a knife
- 1:12:25Speaker 4: attack has been jailed for life. Abdul Al-Badri arrived in
- 1:12:28Speaker 4: the UK on a small boat 16 days before making
- 1:12:32Speaker 4: this knife attack, but waved him in, gets a knife,
- 1:12:35Speaker 4: does this attack. These boats are arriving. They're shutting down
- 1:12:40Speaker 4: entire towns. Right now, one of your government secretaries, she's
- 1:12:45Speaker 4: changing the law, so apparently NGOs have an easier time
- 1:12:49Speaker 4: sponsoring refugee resettlement. But But experts say the numbers are
- 1:12:54Speaker 4: too small to deter channel crossings. Because the only way
- 1:12:57Speaker 4: you can deter a channel crossing is, of course, to
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: just wave more people in by other means. You couldn't
- 1:13:02Speaker 4: just stop them. It feels like we're reaching some sort
- 1:13:05Speaker 4: of breaking point, Rahim. And do you think we'll reach
- 1:13:08Speaker 4: the breaking point of Britain first or the breaking point
- 1:13:12Speaker 4: of this politically? Can we actually get remigration as a
- 1:13:16Speaker 4: policy that the people who we've waved in these past
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: five years need to go back?
- 1:13:21Speaker 11: Yeah, well, that is obviously going to happen under a
- 1:13:24Speaker 11: reformed government.
- 1:13:25Speaker 5: And that is the most.
- 1:13:27Speaker 11: Likely party that can beat the Labour Party at the
- 1:13:30Speaker 11: next election. That's what all the data will show. The
- 1:13:34Speaker 11: Labour Party being the governing left-wing party that's doing all
- 1:13:36Speaker 11: of this. But it started with the Conservative Party, which
- 1:13:40Speaker 11: is why reform.
- 1:13:41Speaker 5: As an entity even exists. That is a commitment. They
- 1:13:45Speaker 5: have a commitment to deploy the Navy immediately.
- 1:13:47Speaker 11: Into the channel to stop these votes coming over in
- 1:13:49Speaker 11: the first instance, and also the mass deportation of anybody
- 1:13:53Speaker 11: that has arrived unlawfully, illegally.
- 1:13:56Speaker 5: Or that have sham asylum claims, sham welfare claims, you know,
- 1:14:00Speaker 5: all of these people. If you can't speak the language,
- 1:14:04Speaker 5: you're out. It's done. It's over.
- 1:14:06Speaker 11: Now, the British public have to want to vote that
- 1:14:09Speaker 11: into place, and we don't have a general election necessarily
- 1:14:12Speaker 11: until 2029, but it could come.
- 1:14:13Speaker 5: Earlier, could come.
- 1:14:16Speaker 10: In 2029.
- 1:14:16Speaker 5: But let me tell you something.
- 1:14:19Speaker 11: Having been here two weeks, spending a lot of time
- 1:14:21Speaker 11: with Nigel Farage and the reform team, there is no
- 1:14:24Speaker 11: doubt in my mind it's about to get very aggressive.
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: Raheem Kassam, editor-in-chief of the National Pulse. Check out that website. Subscribe.
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: Support this important journalism. He does great domestic stuff. I mean,
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: I check it all the time for news here in America,
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: but also abroad. He's got a unique perspective there. Raheem Kassam,
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: God bless you, man. Stay safe over there and get
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: Nigel over the finish line.
- 1:14:47Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: Will do.
- 1:14:52Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you
- 1:14:54Speaker 4: can trust, go to charliekirk.com.