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NBA Playoffs Banter: Recapping 1st Round Series! Will We Get Game 7? 2nd Round Look Ahead Matchups! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: NBA basketball fans, Welcome back to the NBA Playoff Banter Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: He's Marshall, I'm Chris, and we're here to talk some hoops.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that first week into the playoffs, although it
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  Speaker 1: got a great rating, to be fair, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was pretty light. There was that. There was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of blowouts and kind of a weird start to the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. But ever since midweek, whenever last week and
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  Speaker 1: this last week and in last night too, has just
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  Speaker 1: been great. We got a lot to talk about. So
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  Speaker 1: we're going to dive into the you know, the the
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  Speaker 1: Knicks and Pistons and Denver Clippers, t Wolf, Lakers, Golden State, Houston. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll do some of that other East Coast stuff. The
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  Speaker 1: series that are either over or almost over will kind
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  Speaker 1: of stash. Like the Celtics. It's really what that one is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is it over? Is it done? We'll find
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  Speaker 1: out tonight. They have had some injuries of like something
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  Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. Tatum missed the game. Drew
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  Speaker 1: Holiday missed the game with a hamstring. When you hear hamstring,
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  Speaker 1: you just never quite know how that's gonna go. One
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  Speaker 1: thing that is certain, they're letting them play the physicality,
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  Speaker 1: even someone who you know was there for the eighties
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  Speaker 1: and nineties and early two thousands, you can make an
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  Speaker 1: argument they may be letting them play a little too
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  Speaker 1: much because, you know, one of the topics we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about is the calls at the end of games,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe I should say no calls at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the game, which on the surface is cool, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, there is some I don't know. It kind
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  Speaker 1: of makes me think they should just be let them
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  Speaker 1: be more physical during the year. Man. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying all the way back to being able to
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  Speaker 1: close slide someone on a you know, on a breakaway.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just funky. That Detroit We're gonna start there
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  Speaker 1: with the Nixon Pistons, but that Detroit series is in
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  Speaker 1: a nutshell is a perfect example. It's like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of calls you could make, but that last one was
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  Speaker 1: a faull. But then again, I just got done watching
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of files that didn't get called. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a little funky. But like I said, it's been great.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it and kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: not just recap, but you know, talk it, talk it through,
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  Speaker 1: see what's gonna happen because you know before you know
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  Speaker 1: it here, maybe as early as Saturday and Sunday, but
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  Speaker 1: for sure Monday and Tuesday, the round two is gonna
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  Speaker 1: kick in. And Round two is kind of sneaky. It
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  Speaker 1: just kicks in and you're damn near every other day
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  Speaker 1: they always have these large gaps in the first round
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  Speaker 1: because they want to get everything televised. Like tonight there's
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  Speaker 1: four freaking games on. So yeah, we're gonna get into
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  Speaker 1: it in just a second. Of this year, first time
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  Speaker 1: of all, let's bring in Marshall see how he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: But let's get going on this Nicks pistons. It's obviously
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  Speaker 1: live as we speak. We're not gonna break it down,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh, play by play why it's going on.
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  Speaker 1: But it's been a fun game pretty much all the
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  Speaker 1: games have been fun. If a team does get a lead,
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  Speaker 1: it's not gonna last long because they come storming back,
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  Speaker 1: as we saw in game one actually and sought you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the last game, Game four, they were going back
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  Speaker 1: and forth with that. They take the lead, they take
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  Speaker 1: the lead. What are your thoughts on this one, man,
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  Speaker 1: Because we talked about this last Monday thing in that
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  Speaker 1: it has a chance to go far because the Knicks
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  Speaker 1: aren't that deep and they're pretty offensive based. And the
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  Speaker 1: Piston but the but the Pistons are inexperience as a unit.
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  Speaker 1: Although you know it's all based around a young up
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  Speaker 1: and coming stud but they do have as you even
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  Speaker 1: laid out a couple of times as far as listing players,
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  Speaker 1: they do have a lot of vets on the team.
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  Speaker 1: So I think both teams have kind of gone over
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  Speaker 1: their head a little bit, like they they've they've played
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  Speaker 1: over their their not ability. But I think the Pistons
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  Speaker 1: have played pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Damn great in many ways, and also, like the Knicks
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  Speaker 2: defense at times have been I gotta admit, it's been
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  Speaker 2: better than I thought it would be.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, and life is good, man. I I've been missing
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: out on a lot of sleep. I actually take an
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  Speaker 3: app at work today because it's either a hockey playoff
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: game or a basketball playoff game. And I'm like that,
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: going to bed till midnight. I just told I told
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  Speaker 3: my fiance, like that, just this time of the year,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna have some West Coast sport. I love hockey too,
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  Speaker 3: so it's like last night I watched the Warriors. I
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  Speaker 3: ain't going to BET's like twelve oh three. You know,
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  Speaker 3: so it's just that tonight, same thing. There's a good
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  Speaker 3: basketblall and hockey. So I'm just gonna enjoy the sport
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  Speaker 3: time of the year. Uh, start off with this series. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think that the the signs are looking
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  Speaker 3: good for Detroit right now. Obviously, free markets can change
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  Speaker 3: as much as college sports nowadays, but they do sometimes
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  Speaker 3: move buys around. But I think Detroit kind of a nucleus.
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  Speaker 3: You got cutting Ham, you got a big and you
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  Speaker 3: can't shout almost some like pretty quality vets. So I
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  Speaker 3: think even if the Pistons were to lose sight, you
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  Speaker 3: gotta be pretty happy for the trajection. Trajection you're going
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  Speaker 3: towards like this is a team that lost twenty games
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  Speaker 3: in a row a couple of years ago, was kind
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  Speaker 3: of a joke in the league, and now you're put
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  Speaker 3: up a great fight round one when no one really
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  Speaker 3: expected it.
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  Speaker 1: So, uh like the second biggest turnaround wins wise, besides
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  Speaker 1: that Celtics team a chunk of years ago, I think
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  Speaker 1: something like that. They made a big jump this year.
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  Speaker 3: So again credit to the staff because that that's that's hey,
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  Speaker 3: and to the staff and the GM like you found
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  Speaker 3: a good matter again, not like a high class Rocky
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  Speaker 3: Bell like B level vets to go with the young
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  Speaker 3: studs and you're you put together a really good squad.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, obviously the main talking play of the
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  Speaker 3: series was well, well, first of all, the main talking
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  Speaker 3: point should be it's been a great series. It's been fun,
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  Speaker 3: it's been competitive from the starting physical yeah, physical, hell
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  Speaker 3: the and this out of all the series. If you
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: looked at if you did not know the series lead,
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  Speaker 3: like who was up whatever, games to whatever, if you
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  Speaker 3: just had people watch the games and o'b seeing the
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  Speaker 3: final score, you'd be like, okay, well, i'm gonna say
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  Speaker 3: that Detroit's up like three games to one, or it's
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  Speaker 3: two to two. Like for you to see, dude, that
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  Speaker 3: Detroit's actually down the series three games to one, you'd
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  Speaker 3: be like, well, that doesn't make any sense if you
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  Speaker 3: look like stats and stuff. So they've kind of had
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  Speaker 3: some bad luck, like in Game one, super close game
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  Speaker 3: that Game four they had a whistle that definitely did
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  Speaker 3: not go their ways. So and part of its sports
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  Speaker 3: like there's always a lady luck involved.
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  Speaker 1: But in Game one they gave up a big lead
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth too, so I don't think that's unlucky,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, the well game for you, but no, you're right,
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  Speaker 3: But it's just you look at it where you're like, damn,
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  Speaker 3: like we could have this this series. It could be
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  Speaker 3: a two to two or maybe Detroit could even be
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  Speaker 3: up three to one. So I do think it comes
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  Speaker 3: learning comes within experience, right in night out ten times. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: For a team to win a title, they have to
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  Speaker 3: go through some growing pains and this is like kind
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  Speaker 3: of their first rodeo together for this squad. But it's
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  Speaker 3: it's just been a fun series. It really has. I
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  Speaker 3: think this is a series we can see a few
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  Speaker 3: true because I think both these teams are comedian next year.
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  Speaker 3: I think Detroit is that. I don't think this is
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  Speaker 3: just a one year hiccup. Chris, Hey, so cutting you
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  Speaker 3: have has been great this series.
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  Speaker 1: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: The physicality, that's that's been a big factor in this series,
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  Speaker 3: but it's also been a big factor across the league.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard, like on multiple podcasts on ESPN, everyone's been
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  Speaker 3: talking about how man they're really letting the players play,
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  Speaker 3: which is as cool like basketball is the more physically
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  Speaker 3: used to be. But you know, it's like what memo
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  Speaker 3: got past that had such a drastic change. I guess
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: I could say this now instead of saying it like
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  Speaker 3: for eight more times. But it's like, if you want
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  Speaker 3: the sports more physical, I'm I'm fine with that, But
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  Speaker 3: what why.
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: I can't hear you. Don't hang up, but I can't
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: hear you right now? Hello, I got you? Now, Okay,
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I think someone called I just send it
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  Speaker 4: to my smail.
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  Speaker 3: So why have we had such a drastic change of
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  Speaker 3: just from the game in the regular season until now, Like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: physical play? If that that, that's cool. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it was arguing about it, but it really has, Chris
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  Speaker 3: seemed like a different sport we're watching to where a
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  Speaker 3: lot of things that you would see called a foul
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  Speaker 3: in the regular season are just play ons now. But
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  Speaker 3: it's like, damn, well, this play Like it's almost like
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  Speaker 3: now it's the player Where're like, well, if so if
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  Speaker 3: if physical plays physical play to play on play on
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: when the refs do call foul, now that almost has
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: to have a player confused, like, dude, I just body
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: that guy down there and he blocked my shot, But
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: now I get called for this Nickeld time foul like
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  Speaker 3: it kind of doesn't make the kind of puts the
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  Speaker 3: rests in a tough spot where, hey, we're gonna let
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  Speaker 3: more physical play happen. So they do start calling fouls
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  Speaker 3: now of the players probably thinking in my head like, dude, well,
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  Speaker 3: what is a foul now? Like it definitely has got up.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think the ref's kind of dug themselves
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  Speaker 3: bit a hole out too, because if you're gonna let
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  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff happen when you do call the
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  Speaker 3: fouls now the player in the back of this man's
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  Speaker 3: got a one. What am I allowed to get away
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  Speaker 3: with now? And whatnot?
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, like I will say this, the last two
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  Speaker 1: years or something like that, I can't remember, they they
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  Speaker 1: have allowed a tad more contact, like you're seeing more
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  Speaker 1: like forearms in the back, not like slamming people, but
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  Speaker 1: like being able to put your hands on somebody a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. You still can't like slow down their shoulder
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  Speaker 1: or even like like you used to be able to do.
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  Speaker 1: But so that they have allowed a little bit more contact,
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  Speaker 1: uh recently, right, But to your in it and to
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  Speaker 1: be fair, it always goes up, like the physicality allowing
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  Speaker 1: more the energy of everybody. It always goes up in
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, but this year in particular, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it has it seems like it's at an all time
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: not an all time high, but you know it's it's
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  Speaker 1: much higher. They're getting rid of and or with they're
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: you know what they're allowing, and so yeah, it is
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  Speaker 1: a little funky. And obviously you know that Detroit Sei
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  Speaker 1: you know game he did. There was contact on that three,
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  Speaker 1: And there doesn't have to be a ton of contact
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  Speaker 1: on a three to get the call. Sometimes just where
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: you're where you're, where your feet are, so you have
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: to allow the player to come down. Now, I will
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  Speaker 1: say this, he did move his right leg to the
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  Speaker 1: right more that he probably would have. I will say
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  Speaker 1: that we're used to seeing like a kickout forward, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so he did kind of he did kind of lean
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, but I would say that's a foul usually.
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  Speaker 1: So they did get screwed. They did get screwed there.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know overall, it's like to me, I
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  Speaker 1: think people were are just starting to get so we've
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  Speaker 1: gone so far the other way that you know, you
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  Speaker 1: have like most like maybe ten to fifteen guys that
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: can really just soccer. The game up and so and hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know a lot of people talk shit about that,
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  Speaker 1: and people can draw files better than others, or flopping
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. As soon as someone's on your team and
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  Speaker 1: they're doing it, you know, like Luca is a pain
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  Speaker 1: in the ass to watch sometimes, but if he's on
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  Speaker 1: your team, you're gonna like your offensive possessions more likely.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, it's always a give and take with that,
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  Speaker 1: but I do like that they're being more physical. The
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  Speaker 1: Knicks had like a sizeable lead kind of early. It
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  Speaker 1: was like thirty I mean, look at this, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: nine to thirty four, mark thirty one to twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: and and all of a sudden, Pistons come storm back,
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  Speaker 1: you know, well into the third they take the leader's
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  Speaker 1: their first leads since sixty four. They were down by
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  Speaker 1: sixteen at one point, and they had they even pushed
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit more to sixty eight sixty one.
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  Speaker 1: They had another nine to zero run late in that third,
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  Speaker 1: and there was this so points since a one nine
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  Speaker 1: in the second quarter to basically the end of the third,
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  Speaker 1: Detroit went on a thirty nine to sixteen run and
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  Speaker 1: it looked like first of all that place was was
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: going nuts. But it looked like, wow, you know that
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game. But the Knicks comes thorming back.
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  Speaker 1: And so this this is most of these games I've
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: been back and forth, and then you have Brunson and
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Kat and it's you know, like the piston stud man
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  Speaker 1: he had. They did get a foul, Oh boy, got followed,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it, but like Cunningham had two great
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: looks at it in his in a spot that he
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: usually hits. I will say that, but you know, Brunson
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  Speaker 1: generally a clutch player. You know Kat has these last
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: two games, Cat has been crazy down the stretch. And
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: it's funny. You know, he's a pretty good defender at times,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: at times really good winever he's not. He'll never be
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: in an all defensive team. However, in this series, if
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: you look late in these games, he's made not just
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: oppensive plays but defensive plays. And his little back to
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: back games with that fade over the left shoulder like
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: he did win in Game three, hit it and then
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: did a harder one where he was almost behind the
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: rim and hit it. Hit like two long ass threes.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I still would like to see more bruns Than and
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  Speaker 1: Cat too. Man. I mean the pick and pop should
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: be like the go to. Now you could also say
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: they're gonna save it for next series, going it kids Boston,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: So I guess there's something to be said there. But yeah, man,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you know, let's not completely rule out the Pistons, so
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: we won't talk about the decisions they'll have to make.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: That'll be the next podcast if they get you know, eliminated,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: because they do have some free agents, so it will
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: be kind of interesting, like Beasley and others. But what
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts here? Do you think they can push
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: this thing to game six and maybe even game seven,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: because you know, given those first two games in Madison
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Square Garden, they were not intimidated whatsoever.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and right now this one is staying really close tonight.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: It's been within about three to four points either way
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  Speaker 3: for the whole game so far. We worry about mid
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: second quarters. So I do think this one comes down
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  Speaker 3: to the end. I hope that it goes back to Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: I again, I think if you're there's a highly likely
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: chance that if Hardaways does get that foul called, he
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: ain't gonna miss all three free throws, that game is
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: going ot at worse, So they did get a little screwed,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: but that part of sport. Yeah, one point game to
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: get Founder going. I think they probably win the game
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: because he's always been a pre good shooter, so that
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: was a tough pill to swallow. But they didn't come
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: out flat. They've been again, they've been taking turns taking
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: the league here in one possession games. So I do
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: think tonight's stay's closed. I do think I think they
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: find a way to actually uh six. Yeah, I think
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: they finally get back in Detroit. So I'm gonna be
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: a little little crazy here, but I'm gonna say Knicks
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: winning seven. So I think that they find a way
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to win this one. They get a little home cooking, refs,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: nice whistles at home, and I do think that they win,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and then the next win a massive square guarden for
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: a game set, which would be great for Rady's great week.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: It's always fun to watch games there. So yeah, I'll
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Detroit Detroit, then Nicks wrap it up.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, what about that call where the ball hits the rim,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: nobody's touched the damn thing and they they start the
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: clock and they and the horn goes and it's like dude,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: no one touched the ball. What are we doing? And
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: then they and then and then they got the other
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: team got the ball. It was like, wow, you could
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: do that almost every game. And the funny thing is
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: it was like, I don't know. That was just weird
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to me. I couldn't believe. I don't remember seeing that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: But a player has to touch the ball for it
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to go in that scenario anyway, not when you inbone
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: the ball the clock goes, not the shot. But that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: was a little funny thing where it's like, how is
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the horn going when we don't even know? It was
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: weird anyway. Kate Huntingham in that game for twenty in
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: four blocks, Brunson had thirty two to fifteen of them
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: came in the fourth quarter, eleven assists, four of seven
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: from three in towns, five of six from three, twenty
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: seven and nine. Like I said, he's just been the
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: last two games, he has been just doing his thing
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: and number far obviously you know him spending all that
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: time in Minnesota. I'm really happy to see him making
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: defensive plays and almost actually all three wins he's made
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like not just one defensive play in each game. So,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not not put him on the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: All Defensive team, but it's just been nice to see.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: It's been really nice to see. Let's go to Denver, Clippers.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I think we both had this puppy deep. I picked Denver.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I believe you picked the Clippers. It's been an entertaining,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: entertaining series. On one hand, the buzzer like you're you're
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: probably not gonna see a buzzer beater like that, obviously,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: but there is controversy and a lot of people just
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: because it's a cool play, you know, are ignoring that
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: that something weird happened in that. But once again, this
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: has been a great, great series. I mean Denver was
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: up eighty five to sixty five with eleventh at the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: beginning basically of the fourth, like the third quarter, Jokics
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: just went off. He almost he was like a point
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: short of what the Clippers team did. He was just
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: going off. Then all of a sudden, Kawhi said, hey,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that's right, I'm here too. They cut it to ten
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: with the eighteen to four run over like a five
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: thirty one stretched there were still five minutes left up
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: by ten, Leonard had one point. I can't remember how
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: much he had in the quarter, but he had fourteen
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and six of fifteen, and they flashed it with a
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: handful of minutes left and he was four of five.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: He hit that big three. They used like an overall,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a twenty seven to eleven run to pull it to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: ninety six ninety two, and of course, you know they
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: trailed by as much as twenty two points. It was
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: their first lead taking that ninety seven and ninety six.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: You know, Leonard hits that big three. It's been a
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: great series, really fun series, crazy, crazy way to end
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the game. But you know, there is some more detail
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that my co host is gonna tell you about because
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: we actually talked about this before we hit record on
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the podcast.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: So with that play, I remember my buddies sent me
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the video on Twitter. They zoomed in of like Jokics,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: the dude took three steps without dribbling the ball. So
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: if you watch them kind of dribbles out of the
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: elbow and then runs back and there's one two three
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: shot and then you see the Clippers bench freak out
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: because oh, you didn't get off in time. It's like, dude,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: how did you guys miss? Because you always see that
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: the universal just every player coach does the travel signal?
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: No one made the travel signal, And I just don't
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: get how you missed that. So how do you how
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: do you miss the Pistons foul at the end of
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: the game, which then they say in the NBA report, well,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: we missed it, sorry, And then and then so I
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: did the.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Pistons game real quick. They didn't even wait until the report.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Remember they they did it in the locker room and yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that's even like, man, go after yourself. What do you
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: mean you just went to the locker room, So why
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: didn't we get to review it?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and two minutes later you're like, oh, dude, we
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: missed the call, Like, uh okay. And then for this
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: one again, how do you miss a three step travel?
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Like the dude literally like and Jo Kich is a
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: big dude. Those were big ass steps. He's got big feet,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: you know, Like, come on, man, Like, I don't know
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: how you missed that call. So then I I literally Chris,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: I'm going I'm like, hey, there's no way the NBA
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: missed this travel. Let me go the two minute report.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: So I pulled up the two minute report and there
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: was a report which involved Jokics but it was like
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: NBA apologizes for Jokics literally bear hugged Harden was it called?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like and then and the reps are like, yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: gow you telling Yogis wanted to f how hard we
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: missed that one. It's like, damn, like you refs, you
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: guys had a bad weekend, you did.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I just you know, certain players, Jokis is one of them,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: but there's a handful of players that just there's just
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: certain things that they just get away with. I don't know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and you know, traveling some players, so I don't know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: it's not as bad as it used to be. I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: will say that, but like, yeah, it's it's weird.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, normally for a traveling a lot of
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: times like when the guy goes in for a dunk,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: get extra step or something. But I mean, this dude
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: was just like he was running away from content out.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: It's a crucial yes, and the rest should be watching
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: his feet. They're not whatever. So then you could chuck
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: up this shot which is airball into into to the
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: to the teammates. Credit. Dude, that's a hell of a
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: heads up play right there to know how to catch
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: that ball to slam it down. Know that you literally
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: have to be super quick because when he when he
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: ducked the ball, there's points you're one on the clock left.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: So that was a great play.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: That replay you can see it went in, but damn
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: it was closed.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: So I guess my biggest takeaway Chris forher this series,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: as fun as it's been, is the fact that first off,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I think you got to congratulate and give a lot
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: of props to the kitchen. And I know it's not
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: sounded crazy because the dude's MVP, but okay, so he
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe he was the one that owned up
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: throwing a hissy fit and he wanted to coach out you. Yeah, Malone,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: we can't talk to me Moreri's fustiness off. Okay, whatever,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: But my initial thought going series is, what, dude, you
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: just hurd the most tenured the most tenured coach in
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the Western Conference the NBA. I think it's gonna put
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: you in a hard spot because now you have a
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: guy coming in who you know, I'm sure he's out
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: on the staff and obviously as as an assistant, you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: like kind of what Malone does, but it's really hard
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: to replace head coach like that. That gives a different
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: mantra that gives different play calls. That's kind of just
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: a tough spot for a players head coach. Even if
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Malone was driving me crazy, he still has been your
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: head coach for a long time. It creates good tendencies.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: So I will give a huge compment to Jokic for
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: kind of guiding the team and also to the players
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: for kind of like riding the troops. I really did
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: think that that coaching decision was going to backfire and
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: you would not be winning close games like this down
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: the stretch. But if you watch the highlights of that game, dude,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: he's just a machine. Like, whether it's the step back three,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: a pass, rebound, like, he's just otherworldly. You now you
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: see why the guy's up for debate a game, whether
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: it's him or SGA game for MVP. So, but that
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: game four a low. I mean, the whole series has
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: been great, it really has. Uh, but to see the
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Clippers who So if you go to YouTube TV because
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I just want to refresh myself, I went to the
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: YouTube TV highlights of that game. They uh they they
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: were down twenty three points the Clippers, like in the
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: second half, I'm like, you know, and you know, so
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, well wait what happened? So if you're dead,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: for dude, Denver, what the fun I know that NBA
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: has changed nowadays, but to blow a twenty point lead
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: almost in a full quarter, that's hard. That normally doesn't
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: happen come playoff time. They quarter, sure, you know, but Chris,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: normally in playoff games, if you're at twenty, that should
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: be a sign of like, dude, we got this wrapped,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: like you know, I know it was that Clippers Arena,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, but dude, normally NBA, these are growing ass
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: man like they're they're they're one of the best players
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: in the world. You're not gonna blow a twenty point lead.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And they were a tenth of a second way from
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: going into overtime. So I just I think that this
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: is a game where we can debate, go back and
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: forth on who's been playing great. Obviously, it's great to
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: see not only Jokis play, but it's also good for
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: the sports to see Kawhi because this dude went healthy. Chris,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: if we had to reevaluate, like who's top ten players
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: in the league, I know that his name has been
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: off that list for a long time because he's been
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: hurt a lot. But when he's healthy, he still is
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: an elite basketball player. I'm not sure if he's top ten,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: but he if one hundred percent healthy, probably go he
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: goes back up to that top. It is crazy the
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: how often he is bagged up but went healthy. He's
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: special and we're seeing that out of him. So really
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: is a great battle between him and the Ookic. But
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: that game four again a mistravel. I guess it is
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: what it is. Hey, the Nuggets hold on by the
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: grace of God to pull to pull that one out.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: I I just I think this is just a heavyweight.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Do you think this thing's going seven? It feels like it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this goes seven. I think that the
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: teams defender home turf and then you have it well,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: or maybe they flipped it, but I do think this
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: goes seven. But I'm still gonna take I believe my
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: original call was Clippers and seven. I'm sick with Clippers
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: and seven. I do think they fight a way to
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: pull it out. But hey, if Yo Kich pulls off
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: this series, man again, a tip of the cap, because
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: that dude put on a hell of a show. Game
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: four I'm sure he'll try to do the same thing again,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: but I just I still think the Clippers got enough
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: overall firepower to get it done.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: My friend, Yeah, it's uh. He's actually fourth quarter points
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Kawhi's second, Brunson's first, Kahi second, Polo
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and Tatum are third and fourth. Yeah, man it it
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: has been fun and I'm still stick with it. My
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Denver and I do think it'll be seven, so that
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: that that lines up.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Only sorry, one last come quickly. Yes, you know, we
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: talked about how Denver had playoff or sorry, Denver had
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: defensive issues coming down in the second half of the year.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Their defensive right like twenty first, I believe like the
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: last twenty three games of the season, whatever defense they
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: played in that last four game, in the last three chords,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: that last game, if it was impressive because before the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Clippers had that huge run, the Clippers had like sixty around,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: like sixty two points almost hear the end of the
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: third quarter. So whatever defense Denver had figured out was impressive.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Because we're talking, I know that the game has been
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: more physical, We've had lower scoring games, but holding the
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: team to low sixties at home in a playoff game
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: is impressive. So maybe as much I did say, hey,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: having a different coach can switch things up in a
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: negative way, maybe that also has refreshed some of the
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: team ideas in a positive way as well. I hate
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: to kind of flip flop, but maybe the new coach
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: has had some good and some back. But I just
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: couldn't believe how low scoring of a game the Clippers
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: had prior to that huge fourth quarter run because there's
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: so many tons of players on that team, because you
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: can't you can't have an off night and hold guys
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: like Harden Kawhi and their role players at home to
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: low sixties in three quarters. So maybe Denver has offense,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: maybe he's a little bit different without the head coach,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: but defensive, maybe they found out a new pattern to
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: help him as a team.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes when you get that little time as well,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you know, it does help just to scout them up,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: you know what I meantime that sometimes that does the trick.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll see if it holds. And you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the one thing about the firing is the whole you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: light of fire in the belly, you know what I mean,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Because when a coach gets fired, obviously even if the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: even if the players wanted them out, which that's what
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: it sounds like, even Jokic. Then you know, you start
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: to go out, you know, the Pride kicks it, you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and you're just like, all right, dude, we gotta we
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: gotta tighten up. Some of the stuff he was saying
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: was right, you know. So yeah, yeah, so that that
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: might be you know, part of it too. But yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: it's been a great series and you know, just to
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: have a chance for this one to go set. Well,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: it's gonna go six, we know that, but it might
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: go seven. You can make a realistic argument that we
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: just talked about the Knicks and Pistons that that could
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: go six or seven. The Wolves, Lakers and Golden State
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Houston both could go six. I wouldn't be shocked if
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: it went seven. I wouldn't like it, but I would
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: be I would I wouldn't be shocked. Let's go to
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Golden State, Uh Houston. You know, like you said, we
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: mentioned uh physicality again. It's not gonna be the first
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: time we mentioned it. But last night that first half,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I mean it was like WWE Royal run. Like every
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: other second, It's like, oh wait is this a highlight
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: from the last one. Are we, well, what's going on?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: They're fighting again? And it was it was all over
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: the place, But we knew it was gonna be physical series.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: On one hand, you'd think, oh man, these teams can
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: really you know, like they have some firepower, but they
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: also can defend. And it's been pretty hard to know.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: It's really fun season or series to watch. You know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Houston was doing pretty good there, you know, sometime in
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the third and there was a ten o run to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: get the lead sixty to fifty seven with the eight
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: to forty four left in the in the the third
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: for Golden State, and it just kept going. They increased
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: it to sixty eight to fifty eight seven twenty one.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Mark I literally screenshot this because it was eighteen to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: three in favor of Golden State in that third quarter.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: But what's so crazy about this stuff? We're looking at
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the seven to twenty one mark of the third, right
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: screenshot five point fifty nine of the third, it's sixty
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: eight to sixty five. And then Houston, you know, has
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: another run twelve to four somewhere in there to pull
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: it to two, and ultimately later in the fourth eight
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: thirty mark, they use a ten three runover about two
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and a half minutes, they took the freaking lead and
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: they had forced At the time mid fourth they had
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: forced ten turnovers, which isn't a lot, but they scored
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: twenty points off him and Seng Goon started to really
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: shine late in that game though, seven zero runover at
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: two minute mark, one oh four to one oh one,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Golden States on top Bam Van Fleet ties the game. Uh,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: he was like eight of a eleven or something at
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: that point. Curry was doing the thing, but Jimmy Butler
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: very quiet in the first half, one of three for
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: four points. But he started doing his thing and he
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: ended up with like twenty five points. He was ten
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: to ten from the line. What's his toes that Brandon
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: pot As, what's that his name? As he went off
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to They combined for fifty three points. We know Butler's
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: banged up. He did get that extra day off though,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and they're still up three to one. But very efficient
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: game from Butler getting a lot from the line. Like
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I said, Steph's gonna do his thing. Defense is there
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: just a grind it out game and another fun game.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: But they're up three to one in a series that
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: could be two to two very easily.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this one man, as I as I've been ranting
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: to you, I I got spoiled man watching that team
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: that won those rings with all the players they had
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: that that was that. I was lucky to watch that.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: But this is a new team. I still love my squad,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: just a different team. I did reads yet, No, you can't.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: It's it's not fair. It's not fair. So I first
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: of all that you know I did, I didn't watch
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: much Houston Rockets games this year. Dude, that Saint Good's
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: a fucking ball player. In the third quarter, that guy said,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: none of you Everston Garden because Draymond's dumbass was in
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: foul trouble for doing the ship that he does. But
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: with him on the bench, dude, say Good said, dude,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: none of you all can guard my ass. I'm gonna
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: go to the basket. Go to the basket, Go to
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: the basket. Now, basically, he's not a great free throw shooter,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: because if he was, we probably lost the game.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: He lost the game. That's a good call. He did
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: not shoot the free throw as well. Yeah, them as
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: a team was they shot the ball very poorly.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: H So overall. You know, I honestly felt like we're
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: gonna lose that game because every time that we did
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a run, they answered that. And Curry.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Curry was pretty mild mannered. He he only hit one
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: three in the first half. He didn't do that well.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: He he had a couple of dagger threes, but not
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: like we're used to seeing him, not like he played
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: in Game three.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: So right to.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Give Houston credit. They have a great game plan to
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: the celetic cury, which they've done effectively. That Amon Thompson,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: all the others, and that put Imski, who in the
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: first half drove me crazy, and love Buddy Heel who
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: could They both cat shown the shooting the ball a
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: little bit. But in the second half, the part that
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: killed me was that put Emsky. And I know I'm
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: nippicking here, but he he had like two or three
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: plays where he left van Fleet open to try to
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: go double team sangun and dude, he can't do that,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Like that's the good guy's not going to jack of three.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: But when you left van Fleet, he was Steph Curry.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Last night, that dude, I believe, hit six or seven
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: threes and they didn't touch the f and rim to
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: save their life. That dude was okay, okay, he was
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: locked every time when it wasn't always the pods.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: But he finished eight of twelve from three.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: That dude alone, Like he hit dagger three for the
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: dagger three, he said, good played his butt off. Draymond
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: was on the bench for almost the whole three quarters,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: so it was definitely kind of a gritty Golden State win.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: But I guess to kind of wrap up my main
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: point here was the fact that I read an article
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: in the Athletic and it was about Jimmy Butler who
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: did land on his butt, had a pelvis injury, and
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: he sucked it up and was a tough SLB like
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: he usually is. He's like, yeah, dude, you know, Dylan
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Brooks kind of pissed me off, and that gave me
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: a little bit of energy. So you know, that's one
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: of those things where dude, Jimmy Butler's and alpha. That
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: dude's a dog. He plays hard. I know he's definitely
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: burned his bridges at places where he's played at in
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: times past because he's got a personality for sure. Yeah,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: But but when when he's on the court, for your team,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: and he's in good spirits. That dude's he's a gamer.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: So that goes back to what we're talking about. If
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: he's on your squad, you all of a sudden, like,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: you know what, Jimmy's I.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Like, Jimmy, Yeah yeah, he's yeah, yeah.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so's competitive, you know. Uh Dylan.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Same here and Dylan Brooks was chirping him and uh,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: he's like that gave me a little extra blood. You know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I got the blood fellowed a little bit, so Dylan.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: But that's how Dylan Brooks is. But overall, I will
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: say I've been griping you because it's just it's been
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: a tough offensive series to watch. Either of these teams
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: are like super gifted offensively, but stat raiding again, they
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: for they they're the fourteenth and sixteenth the best offenses
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs this year.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: So there's only sixteen teams in the in the thing.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, it went pretty for for the first round stats,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: So it's been a it's been a grind, but hey,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: I it would surprise me to see Houston uh drag
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: this thing back to Golden State for one more. I
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: do think they've they've they've so yeah, they've Guardian Curry
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: about as good as you humanly can that he he has,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: he'll he'll do some special once in a while because
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: he especially is one of the best of all time.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: But he's really yeah, and I think, you know, speed
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: up like we were. If we're we're to buy stock
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: on a team, we'd buy stock in Detroit. I buy
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: more stock in Houston, man. That man, these guys are
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: very just long athletic that say good. I don't know
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: his age, by these relatively pretty young, like you've got
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: some pieces, man, And that dude's a That dude's a
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: force like not many bigs have the I don't know
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: that that dude's a big that obviously, yeah, he's special.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: So I'm happy they got the win. H And again,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: hey Butler, you got maybe that any day off will help.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: He even said he's like, dude, I'm not one hundred percent.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: And even Kurve was like, if this was a regular season,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: he probably be on for one or two weeks. So
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: he's kind of got it out for you man. I
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: really I think this does come back for six I do.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I think that Houston Golden Say have gone back and
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: forth after highs. They have their lows. You are trying
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: to see who Golden Stay can step up when Curry's
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: sitting on the bench or when Butler's a little rested
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: and sore, you know, and Houston offensively they are a
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: little bit challenged, man, they make up for it defensively.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: You're not getting it easy buckets. We haven't mentioned Steven Adams,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: who's the best NBA offensive rebounder of the year, and
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: that dude's a tough son of a bitch, so you're
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: not gonna push him around either. So I don't think
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Houston gets done this year, Chris. But that's not a
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: team might want to play as they developed, because that's
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: that's just a really tough, physical team. Maybe got to
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: improved a little bit offensively, but defensively, man, dude, that
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: is the grind to score. And I know I've been
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: griping you because Golden State can't score. Part of it
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: is simply the fact that Houston plays some day have
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: good defense and they don't really allow easy buckets.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Was it Butler? Was it Green that boxed them out
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: at the end.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Or Butler didn't Butler got the big rebound of the
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: last shot the game with what Green slowdown said good
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: to four shot, Well it comes out time out. That
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: article literally said Jamie said, hey, you you make him
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: put up a brick and I'll get the rebounds. That's
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: what happened for that place.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, So Jimmy twenty seven points on twelve shots
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: on a bruises back. He was twelve of twelve, six assists,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: no turnovers. Obviously mister Podzy had six threes that helped,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: but they were twenty of twenty two from the from
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the line compared to nineteen of thirty one what they
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: were from. So I mean, it's not even a if.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe Sengun missed his stuff a little late, you know,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: because he was seven to ten, which it felt like
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: it was worse, but I think it was the timing
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: of when it happened. But that that was crazy. Now,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: the one thing I'll say is Jalen Green. Okay, he
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: had that big game that they had to win. He
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: had eight three six assists, thirty eight points, but since
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: then nine point six boards, five assists, eight points last
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: night one assist and actually his last seven games coming
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: into the playoffs. And I will say this, I don't
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: know how many games minutes he played in these games
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: because they had it locked, you know, so I think
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: this is one of those Twitter stats. But it's been five, seven, two,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: seven thirty eight, nine and eight. So even if you
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: just focus on seven thirty eight, nine and eight so
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: far Jalen Green, you know, we'll see where he ends
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: up and how good he is. That would be. I
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: think they have more young core players Houston. I agree
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: with you that, but I will say that Kay Cunningham
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: can make the world go around, you know what I mean.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: He can really put your just your offense, defense, he
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: can just he just makes people around him so much better.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna say it's a push because of
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the talent. You're right, and they've been playing together now
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: for a little bit and here they are the second seed.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: But he's got to get his shit together.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Let's just say that. Let's try to put it nicely
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: because sometimes he's he's one of those guys that he
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: gets up for certain things, and you think once you're
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: in the playoffs, you get up for anything.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's one thing to keep an eye on.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Speaking to keep an eye on the Minnesota Timberwolves and
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers has been a fun series as well.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: We just really had that one blowout. Well, Game one
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and Game two were basically blowouts. Yeah, the Timberwolves got
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: it down to like I think it would have been
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: if hit a three, it would have been a six
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: point game deep in the fourth. But it was pretty
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: much they handled us. Speaking as a Timberwolves fan, but
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: game three, Game four, you know, the big wonder was okay, yeah,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: one game one? Are you what are you going to
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: do at home? Because they've had an issue with this
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: core dating back to that Memphis series where they lost
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: two out of three at home. Obviously, we know the
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Denver series. Last year, in the Dallas series, I mean,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: they had to win three out of four road games
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: just to go to the conference final, which you can't
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: rely on. So I gotta admit it was very refreshing
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: for them to really say, hey, we gotta worry about
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: this shit. We gotta because the place is jumping. I
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: mean it is loud as hell, but yeah, I don't
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: know what it was, but they were kind of letting
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: their guard down or whatever it was. But they played
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: really well. They out rebounded the defense, they've limited the turnovers,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and ant In Randall has made the right they haven't
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: held the ball overly much. They haven't gone io, they
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: haven't you know, dragged it down beyond that first game,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: which you still played pretty well. You just had too
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: many turnovers randall. Other than that, it's been really great.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: So the playmaking has been phenomenal. In these last two games.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: It came down. You know, they were the worst clutch
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: team in the league, the Timberwolves, they had the most
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: of them, they had the worst record in it. And
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: you know that little thirteen to one run to put
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it away. And then obviously, you know, speaking of back
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and forth, crazy stuff down the stretch, back and forth
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: when you know there's like a nine point lead and
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: then Lebron hits three straight threes, and I mean Lebron
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: and the defense lately you can tell he had five
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: days off and then two days off before because I mean,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: this dude on defense even has just been ridiculous at
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: forty obviously, right, you can't do that all season, you
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: can't do it all game. But you know, role players matter,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: and if you look at the top two, Okay, cool
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: going in the series. We'll give you Luca and Lebron,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: but Reeves's, Reeves and others are way further down that
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: list before you even mentioned a laker. And the defense
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: has been just solid. Randall's been solid on Lebron, Lebron
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: and Luca and and the key thing is they finally
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: went after Luca this year. Last year they barely did it.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Ant's going at him, Randall's going at him. Anybody that's
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: on him. He's like, go Adam and McDaniels too, because
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: they hit him on McDaniel's McDaniel's last year and or Conley,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: and it's like you got to make him pay.
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: And you know, now McDaniels kind of has confidence in
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: what he's doing offensively instead of just trying to be
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: a good three point shooter and be a three and d.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: It's it's been great, man. The way they've closed these
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: games have been you know, at home in the clutch,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: it's been phenomenal. It just shows you, though, that if
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you look at the assist, that will break down. If
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: you look at the assist from Luca, it's you know,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: he's almost got that Jokic thing, Marshall, where he's gonna
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: get his thirty something, maybe forty something, but you don't
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: want him to have like twenty six, twenty eight, and
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: then fourteen assists, and that has been crucial, and without
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: that lob threat that he had multiple lob threats on
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: that damn Dallas team, and then obviously were a deeper,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: stronger defensive team. You know, We've seen it time and
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: time again, and even when a team where you put
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: some stars together have a full year in the playoffs,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: they still got to figure it out. We've seen that
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: plenty of times and they're still in the process of
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: figuring it out. So it's been a breath of fresh air.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of long winded, as you can tell. I'm
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: very excited. Marshall.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I do have a question. I've asked a
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: couple of my buddies this. This one just bothered me.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Someone asks you for just fear analysis.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be a podcast if you didn't spring a
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: question on me.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, this isn't basketball talk here, So now
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: this is my perspective. And I'm obviously not Chris Finch.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not an NBA coach. I'm just like girls basketbaigh
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: school coach. But this has been driving me crazy. So
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I've realized one of the things I like to do
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: this year is when Luca has the ball. The Wolves
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: have enjoyed kind of trying to trap him at half
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: court but being the pastor, or double teamed him at
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: half court, but being the pastor that he is, sometimes
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: that does lead to a turn over. I agree, but
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: it's also led to a lot of a lot of
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: wide open threes for like Reeves or Hatchamura. To me,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I think the Wolves are better off playing him one
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: on one because I again this was I didn't keep
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: complete stats, but I saw there was like five or
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: six times where we're like, you try to double Luca
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: and it's swing swinging that them three and I just
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: don't quite get the strategy. So I'm sure they're probably
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: gonna keep doing it. But does does that bother you?
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Because to me, why not let a guy like Jada
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: McDaniels or nas or whoever guard Luca.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna be not taking him to the rack yesterday?
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: What's a higher percentage at the rack layup or a
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: dunk or a corner three, what's a higher percentage.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: I'd rather I'd rather let Luca go one on one
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: that just see they give up the open threes.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I just think you answer my question, what's the higher
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: percentage I bring him or ally oop at the rim
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: or a corner three. Corner three is the as we
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: know on average. Anyway, I don't know their averages, but
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: on average it is the most accurate three.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I saw. Obviously, a dunk is going to be a
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: higher percentage shot than a three, for sure, but or
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: a layup or getting followed. Yeah, yeah, you know we
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: have gone.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Mc daniels and Randall have gone one on one with
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: them plenty. Yeah, but you know, I don't know. It's
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's kind of a catch twenty two.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: But this is what I do know. Okay, this is
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: what I do know. Game one he had five turnovers.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: He had eight or he had one assists in five turnovers.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Game two he had nine assists, is his high in
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: these lot, you know, in the four games. But he
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: had four turnovers still. Game three, eight assists but five turnovers.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Game four to assist four turnovers. So whatever we're doing
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: is working pretty fucking good. But it's also they don't
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: have a big And it's funny because if people are
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, you don't know what you're talking about.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: If he played with Rudy Oh my god, Like, good luck, dude,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: good luck with that, because he's so much more effective
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: when he has the lob effect, you know, it's so
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: much more effective. And here's the scoop. He only has
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: one assist in this series in the fourth quarter. He's
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: so him and aunt in the fourth quarter, Luca is
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: five of seventeen with one assist. Ant is ten of
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: twenty three, so he's double them up. He's obviously shot
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: more too, with seven assists in the fourth quarter. You
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: could have flipped it last year, you know. So what
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: this is telling us is you need a full team, right,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: You need the right fit next to you. Doesn't mean
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: you have to have the dream team right, as we know,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: but you do need to have the pieces that fit.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: And as we know, they tried to get a in protector.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: It just didn't go through the trade. So it's a
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: mixed bag. It's a mixed bag. You know. Obviously, you
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: know the Rudy Iso stuff if you look at the analytics, dude,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: So game one, in game two that Luca isoed Rudy
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: seventeen times and got thirteen points out of it. So
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: game three, in game four, they haven't even tried it. Overall,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: he's five fourteen from the field, one of seventeen from
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: three when Rudy is the primary defender. I keep telling people,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Rudy doesn't get played off the court defensively. He does. However,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: if you don't have four shooters on the court, he does.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Can't He can, especially in this type of series, get
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: played off offensively. People forget you saw had Mitchell is
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: a better pick and roll guy than an He just is,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: and they had better playmakers, and they had they had
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: usually four shooters in him. And remember they had high
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: powered offenses there, you.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Know they shot.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Yep. The thing was is they didn't have the defenders
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: we have. So yeah, if any big man KG and
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: well maybe not KG because he's quick footed, but most
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: big man, if you got to run out to the
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: three and cover for your teammate, it's not gonna look good.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not gonna look good.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: So a lot of that was.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Recovering for for mistakes made in front of him and
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: him trying to make up for it. This whole one
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: on one thing. If you look at a lot of
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: these analytic guys, go look at the analytics when when
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Rudy's on the court, and the ice though. The it's
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: it's just not as effective as people make it out
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: to be. It's just not like literally, analytics tell you
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: it's not. So I test. It's fun, I mean, and
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: the crowd loves it. The crowd's like, oh, here we go,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: We're gonna cook them. But then it's really not. And
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: here's another one. Rudy Gobert has the best defensive field
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: goal field goal defensive field goal out of anybody in
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: the playoffs this year. When the Rudy is the primary
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: defender is shooting, the shooters shooting thirty five percent. That's
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: thirteen point seven percent lower than the expected field goal.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Also number one in the NBA that was actually during
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: the year. So you know, I hear what you're saying,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: but in this scenario, I think we're doing a pretty
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: damn good job at.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Him, you know, Okay, well aa obviously to the three
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: to one series lead shows it. But I just it's
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: just paidful because I am sure for the Wolves with
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: you to just see that same swing and they know
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: all is open threes and to give Reeves an achimurkred,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: there're some good three point shooters. But to flip this
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: to the Wolves for a positive, I think they closed
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: this series out. It might be Game six, but that's
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: because now obviously And does not have the stats yet
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: to back up with Lebron Luca. But to me another
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: defensive massive issues in fact that when this tea's want
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: to take over, he's been able to take over in
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarters, and the Lakers really do not have
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: a player that can slow him down. Obviously, sometimes he
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: even gets a little three point happy, but And has
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: literally just like put the team on his back and
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: had a really overall good series. And I think that
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: is his cold bloodedness of wanting to finish a game.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: I think he's gonna win it for them in six.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be really hard to slow down
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Luca and Lebron in Game five at home. But hey,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: the Wolves have played great defense and the other big factor.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: And I think the NBA gave him a little generous
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: generossity with these days off in the games. But after
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: between five and six and six and seven there was
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: like one day off each JJ ready to not make
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: a single sub in the second half of Game four,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: the Lakers, whoever they came out of halftime with, never
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: left the court. That shows he doesn't trust his bench,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: and they would have the depth of Timberwolves due so
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: for a game five to game six and six to seven,
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: if it goes seven, those guys gonna get a little tired,
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: right Lebron.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: So they have a two day break from that last game.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I thought I thought it was a one day break
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: between five and six and six and seven. I might
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I might have missed some.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: No, I'm saying that they had to after that game
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: four on Sunday afternoon.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he did that.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: To your point, they have two days off.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: True, you're you're yeah, you're right, You're right.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: That played into his decision. Now, the other thing that
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: people haven't been talking about. Ant did the same thing.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Not the whole lineup, of course, but Ant and Randall
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: played everything but like forty six seconds. So he played
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: twenty a little over twenty three minutes and the finished
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: it too. But for the starting lineup, to your point, yeah,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: that just shows you, and you know they I think
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: it was smart for a while, but when they had
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: that ten point lead, Marshall, that's when they should have
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: put in somebody for a couple of minutes because you
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: can really tell they were gassing. Now Yeah, this last game,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I think Ant put it on his back. But to say,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: if you look at the other games, we've had a
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: very spread team. I mean McDaniel's had a thirty point
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: game in a twenty eight point game, Randall's averaging twenty
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: two points, McDaniel's ever twenty points N's average in fourteen.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's just just Ant. Ant's just doing
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: stuff that he Ant's playmaking. He's actually making the right
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: play rather than trying to play hero ball. That's the
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: biggest difference there. This last game he went to line
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: seventeen times when he didn't even make a trip to
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: the line in game three, which was crazy. So I
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: wouldn't just say aunt wildam and that's it, because if
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: we don't have that thirty from Jaydon in game three,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: you know, like we've gotten like it goes to show
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: you we have the role players around him that fit
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: pretty well.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just and again, I just think this is
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: part of the media. But he I think he's gonna
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: be the guy who helps you win that closeout game. No,
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: but no, it's a very Again, it goes show they're
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: a deeper team, they have more depth, they have more talent,
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: they have a bench like Blakers clearly show they don't.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Even if you knew, even if J. J Rick knew, Hey,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: I get two days off. It is really weird for
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: a coach not to bring a guy off the bench
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: shade at all, Like you gotta let yeah.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Like you know, they say it's never happened before, which
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I've seen it in college, but I don't believe I've
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I've seen it in the pros. Did you see that
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: stat though, in the fourth quarter so far with Naas, No,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: he's not even of ten from the field in the
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Now it's it's a small sample size, but
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: he's six or six from three.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just think everyone is. It's it's just
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: been amazing, Like if you look at the fourth quarter, man,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: they have look at this. So game one twenty three
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: to seventeen, LA shot twenty eight percent from the field,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Game two twenty to thirteen, twenty six percent from the field.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Game three outscored thirty to twenty. LA shoots thirty five
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: percent from the field. Game four thirty two to nineteen,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter shooting twenty eight percent. I mean,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: this is when they've had issues, you know, But right now.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: They're they're doing their thing. Man, they're basically making up
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: for a lot of like victories during the year that
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: we thought we should have had.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Well, and I guess, just to wrap this one up,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: on my take, it's I think winning six. I do
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: think there's gonna be too much Lebron Luca craziness in
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: game five. But I do think the Wolves win at
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: home and target Center in game six and they advance.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. I don't want to see
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Game seven, sure, but I agree. I think it. I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: definitely think that because you know, to be fair, these
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: last two games were very tight, you know, yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: scoring Game three looks weird because it was a thirteen
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: to one run, but.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: It was tight.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: So and you know they had to I think they're
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: down by eleven tier point. That was the second biggest
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: comeback we ever had in the playoffs. Now we don't
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: have a lot of playoffs, you know, but sure still
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: eleven points. Like usually to your point when it comes
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: to the others, you're talking about that Dever series, Like, man,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: that's like, I mean, okayk made a huge run back,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: but that was you know, without their star player too.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: So now so Golden State or sorry, Celtics three to
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: one over Atlanta Orlando Orlando once again this year. Then
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the playoffs has made it tough, right, you know Tatum
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: missed the game. We know Drew Holiday has a hamstring.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Now is it just a miyor thing or whatever. I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: don't know. They have, you know, so many ball handlers
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: and playmakers that they'll probably be okay until they get
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: to the conference final and then maybe the final. So
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: they do need to be healthy though, I will say that.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: But they did make it through without of course, then
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: then they needed him for that little spark that he
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: gave and it kind of helped him. But this one
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: has been a good series. Orlando. It feels like they
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: just they need a point guard. But they have a
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: lot of repetition at certain you know, positions. But what
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: do you think of this series? Do you think it's over?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: You think it's done? It's done in Boston or Orlando
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: kind of force it a little deeper because I think
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's done.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: I do think that Orlando covers the spread. I think
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: they they have covered the spread a couple of times
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: this game. And I again, as I mentioned Golden State
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: and Houston, play really good defense. I didn't know this
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: because I didn't watch any Orlando games this year for
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: the bregular season, but Orlando has the best offensive defense
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: in the East, in the Eastern Conference. So defensively they
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: are good. Yeah, there may not be is they got
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: fair other offense a little bit, but they're up right
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: now early twenty one to fifteen. I do think Boston
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: wins the game tonight. I think they'll take care of
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: the six point deficit right now. But just because they're
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: at home and uh, you know, Tatum is probably gonna
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: with his boys, probably gonna take care of business. But
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: I do think Orlando has played people closely expected. The
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Vegas points spreads for most of the series, Chris have
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: been covered by Orlando, So I do think that the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: points spread book makers. How did the Magic a bit?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: And if they do add a little bit of offense,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: I missing a couple of wings too. I think this
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: Magic team, you know, we talked about for the past
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: three years, they've been a kind of first round knockouts,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Like what's wrong with them? I think if you have
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: the defense now and I forget what ESP guy was,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: but one one dude said this past week he's like
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: he thinks that in a couple of years Paulo Banchero
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: could be a top top five player in the NBA. Like,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know who that, I forget
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: who was, But as an NBA he's definitely you get
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: You now got an alpha scorer and he got defense.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: He maybe get a little more healthy. This team could
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: be good. I just don't think this is their year yet.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: But if if, if, if they if they win, if
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: they win tonight, Ovie surprised he can go back to
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Game seven. I don't think they will, but this magic
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: team is a step in the right direction and just
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: get a little healthier. Yeah, for Boston, this was again,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: as we have said, probably a gentleman's sweep. They only
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: always let one go. So we're we we should have
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: both bet Celtics and five. My friend, that should have
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: been our trend one of our training picks for the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: first podcast show of the year for us from the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: NBA playoffs.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you said five.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: I just went we should I should have bet it
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: before the Yeah, to make some money.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Off of but yeah, yeah, yeah, so obviously it's over now.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: You know, the Pacers in overtime get the job done.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: They cleaned up the series. Trent Junior tied the three
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: point record in the last or was it two games
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: ago with ninety threes. He's like, I'll put up eight
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: in this one, thirty three points. Giannis had thirty as well.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Obviously didn't get to see a.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Lot of this game.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: But the Pacers man like, they had six guys and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: double figures, very spread, and Alburton played pretty good it appears,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: but you know, he just couldn't hit a three. But
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: McConnell came up big off the bench. It appears, didn't
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: even shoot a three. It was seven to eleven, one,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: nineteen to one, eighteen. It's over no surprise there, obviously.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: You know, I did think that Milwaukee could have maybe
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: pushed it to Game six. I remember saying, Matt, you know,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Dame did return, but then he got hurt and that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: really sucks for him. Obviously, you knew something was gonna
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: happen in the offseason. You assumed anyway, whether it was
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: a trade, you know, who knows, who really knows if
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: you honest was going to force trade or whatever. But
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: now it's like, I'm kind of leaning to that more
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: now because you know, with like you can improve your
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: team through trades. But if you know Dame's not coming
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: back until at least you know, April, right, to make
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: it a year, and you're in your what is he
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: thirty five?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Something like that.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: He's older, isn't he? Yes, so to come back from that,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: and he's a little quick guy. Little quick guys that
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: are a little different and they need all that quickness
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: they can get and keep retained. So it just sucks. Man.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: We can sit there and you know, I was just
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: talking about Holiday, the Drew Holiday thing. Obviously you know
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: that was a mistake. You know, some of their trades
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: you can you can be critical of. We talked about
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: this as we reviewed the series. I don't know. I mean,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: they did win a championship though, you know, so that
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: that really stands out to me that they won a
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: championship at least, So we'll see. The rumor is Miami
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: and others we've heard Golden State. I don't think that now,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: but it was before the Jimmy trade. There's a couple
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: of teams that really want you honest. Everybody wants you honest, right,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: not everybody, but a lot of people. But they put
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: up a fight obviously right. I mean they pushed it
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: overtime tonight. It was a somewhat competitive series. I thought
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: it'd go at you know, one more had a chance
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: at a Game seven. But the Pacers, man, they got
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: it done. And you know, depending on what happens, you know,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: they'll probably start either Saturday, actually they'll start Saturday. They're
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: gonna start Saturday more than likely, because it's either it
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: all depended on how series go, and usually that meant
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Saturday or Sunday at the earliest for these series they
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: get going and Monday and Tuesday at the latest. And
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: so if one of those series between Golden State in
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Houston or the Timbrels and Lakers, if one of those
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: goes game seven, that will start on Tuesday. So it's
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: like you'll go to a Game seven and hey, you know, boom,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: you're going right there. So and the second round definitely
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: flows a lot quicker. And I believe there's somewhere in
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: the five, six, seven, somewhere in that range. There is
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: a two days off, but a lot of it's every
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: other other day that you got a game. So Pacers
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: looking pretty strong. Obviously they got a hell of a matchup.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: You look at the Nicks and Pacers and you're like, yeah, man,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: and then you look at who they got to play
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: next day, You're like, oh, that's gonna be.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: A tough one. Uh. I will say the Bucks were
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: up four with forty seconds to go and then they
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: let no tea and the Bucks are up four with
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: twenty eight seconds going overtime and lost as well.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Y Gary trade they needed dame time. Man, that's uh.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Gary Trent Junior had a bad pass of twenty nine
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: seconds left and Halbert's made a layup, and then he
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: also Gary Trent Junior also had turned over with ten
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: seconds left and Halbert's made a lay up for the win.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: So Gary Trent Junior did not have a good close
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: to the series, or else I could have gone back
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: to Milwaukee. So yeah, that was a tough one. And obviously, hey,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: since he won a ring, you had, you had Middleton leave,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: you had Drew Halty leave. It's kind of been a
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: tough patch. And now obviously the NBA, it's a starger
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: of the league. If you're honest watch I.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Want to say the Middleton he's not playing like he
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: was though, you know what I mean.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: So maybe that was acceptable that yeah, it obviously he
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: still a big name.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's hindsight, you know that, you know.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And obviously in part of being a jam
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: it's you got to make the tough choices. But and
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: I guess they just extended the guy too. But yees,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: since you're right, since they've won that rain, Chris, they've
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: kind of been really trending the wrong way despite still
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: having easily a top five player in the world, like
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: still on the team, who still has plenty of years left.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: So if he dips out, man, you're you're looking at
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: a gram situation in Milwaukee. If if Jannis jumps out
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: of town.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: But hey, hats off to the Pacers. They were definitely
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: the better team in this series.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: I I like Halberton's just a fun guy to watch play.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: I do think the Miles Turner is one of those
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: special bigs who can shoot the three ball really well. Again,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: every time I watch him play, he just seems to
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: show out. So I guess I'm a Miles Turner fan.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: He just for years I wanted the Timlves to get
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: him and put him next to Cat.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: That that would do. That had been fun, that you
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: would have had two bigs that can thought a three
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: and then and then the rim protection he'd be doing
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: that and then yeah, funny enough, Kat's better at power
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: forward on defense, you know not but on defense he's
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: a better He's better at defense, he's not great and
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: drop coverage and all that. As a center, that would
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: have been a hell of that. That really would have
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: He tried and tried, but remember how long that they've
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: been trying to trade him, and then they finally like,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: let's just keep him. Yeah, because he was always on
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: the blocks, but they just held out him. He's a
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: damn good player, so you know, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Think part of it was, as we said the first show, Uh,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: you know that mojo you have to last year like
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: the Pacers. Yes, they got a little lucky with the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: injury breaks, but they had a really good play for
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: last year. So it's no surprise it carried over and
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: you got you got some guards, you got some bigs.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: It's a well oiled machine and it gets to play
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: fast tempo that that does. Obviously they've improved defensively, but
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta score with them, okay, because they're
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: gonna drop one hundred and twelve hundred and fifteen game.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: You got to match it, and they got the dogs
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: to do it. So hats off to them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think even their backups. Dude, their backups are
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: running that damn. They ran us ragged on their backup
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  Speaker 1: line up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think a lot of people had them
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: winning five, maybe win the series, but they took care
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: of business. So credits to them, and uh, hey they're
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: they're advancing. Yeah, the Giannis Sweepstakes will potentially will begin offseason.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: But that dude, that's a that's an all of a piece,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: and that dude's got a lot of years left in
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: his body, so we'll see how that goes. Hats off
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: to the Pacers for being the I suppose now the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: second team to officially win a Round one series in
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: the NBA playoffs. There you have it.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: And you know, we had that one OKC game where
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: they had that crazy comeback to win, but that that
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: was a four to zero series. Memphis didn't really put
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: up a fight fight. I thought maybe there'd be two
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: out of the five or something that maybe they they
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: you know, get going or whatever. But and I mean Cleveland,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: oh my god, like you know, we know that their
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: comp wasn't crazy, but analytically they freaking buried them, dude,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: I mean it was. I think it's the biggest point
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: differential of all time in the playoffs. Like I can't
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: say it any other way.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: Are you talking Cleveland Orth or Cleveland or okay see
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: or both?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Well really both, but analytically Cleveland buried them, like as
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: far as the point differential, the most point differential of
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: all time. But yeah, both of them buried them. Not
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: much to talk about both of them sweets. There was
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: that one game, you know, where they had to make
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: a crazy comeback, but other than that, not much there,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: you know. So you know those series pretty much, they're
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: just gonna wait and see what happens. Now, well, not
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: not Cleveland. We know Cleveland's playing Indiana, and I assume
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: that would start Saturday. Maybe it would start even Friday
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: night now that I think about it, So Tuesday night.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Bet the overs because hey, people plays just as fast
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: fast as Yeah, so that's gonna be just some too
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: too well oiled offensive machines in that series.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's a great, Like I said, that's a great,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: like Boston, like, we don't tell me the Knicks stuff
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: now because I don't want to get spoiled.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, I was about to sow I will say anything.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't tell me, because I'm kind of pissed. I
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: had to check to not see that overtime ship because
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I recorded that second half too.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: Oh shit, sorry, brother, Okay, my bad.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: No, no, I'm the one who brought it up. I
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: had to look because I had to see where we're
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: at the series, you know, to talk about it. I
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: was hoping it wasn't done yet when I looked at it,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's still going. No, it's my fault.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: I did to myself, but I had to be done.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: But you know, like that's a great series on paper,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: it's more of a hardcore series. I'd say Cleveland and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Indiana isn't going to go crazy with the ratings per se.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: But if you get to the five, six, or I
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: should say, if you get to the six or seven
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: game series, that's when it can get really interesting and
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: then everybody, casual fans, everybody gets involved, you know, ratings wise,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: and that is we've had a damn good first round
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: so far. The ratings are up, you know, the first weekend,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: although it wasn't a great weekend per se. There was
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: a couple okay games, no doubt, but overall it wasn't
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: a great one, but it it actually had a Bonker's ratings. Uh.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: And the follow up now has been pretty good here,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: really good. Actually, the Lakers Timberwolves first round or yeah,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: the first round NBA Playoff Game four average seven point
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: three to five million. It was up thirty two percent
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: from last year's Clippers Mavericks. And remember this two years ago,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: that Warriors King series.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: Remember that, Oh that that was a great series.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: That was yes, and that's the only one.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: So it's the second most watched game four, whereas that
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: was number one seven point five. This one was seven
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: point three, so it was right there. The Knicks Pistons
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: was actually down from Philly Knicks just a little like
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: sixteen percent. The Friday night Timberwolves Lakers was up thirty
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: percent uh from Celtics Magics or Magic And overall the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: cover it's up thirteen percent uh from last year. So,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: like I said, they had that big weekend to start
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: out with, and so far, so good. Like it's as
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: far as just the ESPN platforms, it's so far through
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: eleven games, Uh, it is their highest rated since they
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: started taking over, uh, the NBA once once they got it.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: You know, now there is out of home ratings now,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: so in bars, in restaurants and and uh like the airport,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: they do measure that, whereas they didn't before. So it's
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: it's still a funky measurement in general Neelsen ratings. But overall, uh,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: you know, things are looking up that way, that's for sure.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: And you know another thing, about the beginning of the season,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: the ratings were down fairly sizably. But I did some
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: research in general. I went first to hockey. How was
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: it doing at that time? This was before Christmas, and
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: it was down the the NFL. Actually now it's just
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: a it's just slightly down, like two percent, but it
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: was down the regular season. The only regular season platform
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: that saw gains was Amazon, so and you know, it
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: was political season, and these last three presidential runs have
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: been very you know, distracting, let's say, right, so it
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: has distracted a lot of people from that obviously twenty
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: twenty at COVID and all that stuff too. So either way,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: they had the biggest Christmas they've ever had, even with
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: the NFL says to the I was nineteen, and they
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: ended up only being down a percent from last year,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: and ABC was up ten percent because they kind of
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: backload the schedule now to get some big matchups down
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: the stretch instead of wasting them too much on the
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: early stuff when football is still going. I also noticed
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: that multiple games that were you know, broadcasted at that time,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: the star player was hurt, so that played into it too.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: So a lot of people love to just you know,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: go won't go broke with the NBA, even though they're
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: gonna double and maybe triple their last deal, but they
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: love whatever reason. It doesn't matter what's up or down.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: If the NBA is slightly down, it's the ratings are horrible.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: It's always been that way. I know why, but we
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: won't get into that right now. But sure, overall it's
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: pretty solid now. Obviously, they wanted the Lakers in Golden
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: State in round two. They still want that, right, so
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: that would be a blockbuster for ratings. But just getting
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: one of them would be big, and that younger team
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: would have gone through some players like Jimmy Butler and
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Curry in Luca and Lebron.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see how it goes. Obviously, I'm hoping
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: for my Wolves, and the tim Wolves were like the
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: highest rated team last year up until like Game three
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: against Dallas, because you know, once you're down three zip,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: everyone knows the series done, so it kind.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: Of pill part.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Once we've gotten to the second
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: and into the semifinals. In the finals, we need six
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: game series. It's not always seven, right, I mean sometimes
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: it is, but like, but sometimes the seven games can
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: be boots, you know, Whereas sometimes you can get a
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: six game series and four out of the six are
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: good and the closers good, it's just almost as strong
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: as the game seven. So that's kind of been. It's
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: like we've had six straight years with a new champ,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: no repeats, and right now some of those teams have
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: a chance to get closer to that. And that's when
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: you start to if you can get six and seven
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: game series, and you can get someone trying like Boston
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: trying to go for a repeat, it starts to get
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: the casual fan base really mixed up, you know what
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And just to I just for my head,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: I just what was your prediction for the Golden State
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: Houston want to get.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, Golden State, and well it was six. Okay, I
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: don't yeah six, it's still six.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, Golden Stad six Okay, got you all right?
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so hey, again, this has been the I mean, hey,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: the Western Conference has been delivered besides the OKC Memphis Rundown.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: But hey, okay, see we will get to the next
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: week because that is a very good team. They just
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: kind of had a cake walk and no one got hurt,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: so that that team's dangerous. And the Grizzlies just it
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: wasn't there year year.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: So it's a good call with no injuries because that
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: would suck.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know sometimes and again that's that's what
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: can decide a series. Like again, I still think the
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: words get on the ring if Clay doesn't tear his
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: acl but it happens and Kyrie, you could say the
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: same thing to flip for Kyrie if he doesn't tears me.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: So hey, if Sam Cassell doesn't get hurt Game one
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: against the Lakers in the conference final in two thousand
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: and four, we matched up a lot better with that
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Detroit basketball team.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: Uh huh, so hey, you just gotta gotta pray, hope
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: and obviously no one ever wants the insured, especially for
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: day and like one of the faces of the league
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: for all we can tell, just a really good dude.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: That was sad to see, but it's part of and
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: I think truly show. My last play in the show
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: will be watching that Wolves game three, in game four,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: or especially game four, the stuff that Lebron can still
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: do the shire for a dude that is forty years old.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: Like I know he did have that foul, but like
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: he had a couple of defensive plays in that game
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: where he like he's straight up like stripped like it
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: or like or Jamie Daniels and but it's like, dudeah,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: you're forty and you're ripping this kid who's like fifteen
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: years like I don't. And he had block too, Like
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: the dude doesn't. He hasn't slowed down, Chris, you're supposed
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: to still. Now you get the forty and he's out
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: there like playing a full game almost with like and
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: he's not getting embarrassed defensively.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: Like I think game remember game two he trapped that
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: ball on the on the backboard.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's it's it's sh just And that's why.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I think if they can get the right parts like
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Luca's perfect for him because he's finally a guy that
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: can take the pressure off him offensively, so they he
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: can do that type of thing, you know, and when
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: he can focus. Hey, you know what you're going off,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: everything's going good with you. I'm gonna go on the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: defensive end now, and that gets scary obviously. You know.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: We'll see how this this plays out.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was the one time when Lebron had the ball,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: like it was just him and Devon Chanzo between the
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: at the free throw line. I'm like, oh, yeah, this
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: ain't gonna go good. Yeah, he kind of turned his shoulder,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: did that old lay defense, Like, I don't blame you,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: dog like dude. Lebron is still a force at forty.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: So all right, so we'll be back next week. I'll
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: be probably coaching Freeze. I'll make a little more easier
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: time time to watch more games and lose more sleep. Hey,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: the boys are out. Enjoy the nice weather. Hopefully the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: springtime is kicking in. Wherever you live, we're out. Peace