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Devin Jackson on the NFL Draft a couple weeks away, Utes still getting 2 players drafted in the 1st round (?), David Bailey vs Arvel Rees... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 3: Amy another one, Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell show.
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Speaker 4: Welcome in, Devil Jackson, sports editor and NFL Draft insider
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Speaker 4: over at the Philadelphia Inquirer, Devin, Welcome back to the show.
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Speaker 1: How are you, sir?
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Speaker 2: Doing great? Getting ready for the NFL Draft here in
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Speaker 2: a few weeks and excited to be on site for
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Speaker 2: that again. And yeah, I'm looking forward to you know,
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Speaker 2: it's kind of the time of the year everyone's kind
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Speaker 2: of focused on that and ready to you know, jump
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Speaker 2: into the NFL Draft discussion. So I'm excited that it's
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Speaker 2: just a little under two weeks away, or a little
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Speaker 2: over two weeks away.
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh this year, right, that's where the draft is happening. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Yet you spent a lot of time in Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you're in PA. But they're different countries Pittsburgh
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Speaker 4: and Philly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, obviously earlier in my journalism career,
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Speaker 2: you know, I lived in the State College area, but yeah,
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Speaker 2: I've gotten to Pittsburgh quite a bit over the years,
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Speaker 2: and I spent quite a bit of time there, So yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm excited to get back there and uh see what
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Speaker 2: it's all about. You know, obviously there they have some
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Speaker 2: bodies of water in downtown Pittsburgh, and you know, from
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Speaker 2: what I gathered there, they're going to be doing a
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Speaker 2: lot of things, you know, transferring prospects back and forth
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Speaker 2: across the water and you know, trying to get to
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Speaker 2: the stadium all those different things. So I'm excited to
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Speaker 2: check it out and see what it's like. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh has a beautiful backdrop, and you know, I think
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Speaker 2: it's one of those underrated cities that you know, a
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Speaker 2: lot of people don't. You know, it's not really a
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Speaker 2: destination city per se. But but I think, you know,
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Speaker 2: see that that you could enjoy a lot.
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Speaker 4: I was just there last week calling some fights, and
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Speaker 4: it is it's underrated.
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Speaker 1: It's it's a cool spot.
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Speaker 4: So if you get a chance, you're out there, listen,
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Speaker 4: you get a chance to go to Pittsburgh, go enjoy it.
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Speaker 1: It's a cool sports town as well.
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Speaker 4: My I love that the NFL has moved the draft
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Speaker 4: out of New York City every year and it is
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Speaker 4: now allowing other experience, other markets to experience it. My
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Speaker 4: big campaign, my big hope is that eventually it will
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Speaker 4: be non team cities that get a chance to touch
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Speaker 4: on this NFL community. Like, of course, they're going to
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Speaker 4: go to places where they already have a presence, where
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Speaker 4: they already have infrastructure, they already have facilities. We're out
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Speaker 4: here in Salt Lake City. We're never going to get
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Speaker 4: an NFL team here. It would be awesome if we
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Speaker 4: could at least get a draft. Do you think that
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Speaker 4: we ever get to a point where the NFL, as
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Speaker 4: they try to expand, you know, market share, they try
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Speaker 4: to expand the reach to their fan base, does maybe
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Speaker 4: not to Salt Lake City, but does end up in
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Speaker 4: a place that doesn't have an NFL team for the draft.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what seems that way. You know. I think
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Speaker 2: when you think about the draft, you kind of want
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Speaker 2: a place that you know is a bit of a destination. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: Like I think eventually they're going to run out kind
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Speaker 2: of out of ideas of places to go because, like
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're think of like certain parts of the country,
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Speaker 2: like you know, in Green Bay last year, it still
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Speaker 2: was pretty chilly at that time of year, so you
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Speaker 2: I think you also want to keep in mind, like
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Speaker 2: you know, geography wise, location wise. You know, I think
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Speaker 2: they're pretty open to, you know, expanding and wanting to
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Speaker 2: be in different places. And you think about all the
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Speaker 2: different games that they have in different countries and they're
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Speaker 2: trying to expand their international reach. You know, I could
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Speaker 2: certainly see them following that same thought and mindset and
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Speaker 2: doing the same with the NFL Draft and getting in
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Speaker 2: different places and you know, maybe exploring the interest in
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Speaker 2: those certain cities. You know, NFL, you know, as much
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Speaker 2: as we love the thirty two teams, you know, there's
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Speaker 2: been a lot of discussion around expansion and continue to
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Speaker 2: grow the game and whatnot. They talked about moving teams
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Speaker 2: and maybe having international teams as well. So I think
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Speaker 2: it's certainly now the realm of possibility. All Right.
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Speaker 4: Fernanna Mendoza expected to go number one to the Raiders
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Speaker 4: in this upcoming draft, and we've got to report this
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Speaker 4: week that he does not intend to show up and
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Speaker 4: be there for the draft. Is that problematic for the
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Speaker 4: league in any way?
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Speaker 2: I think it certainly hurts just a little bit because
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Speaker 2: I think for them, you know, Obviously they're accustomed to
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Speaker 2: having the top overall pick there. You know, obviously, like
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Speaker 2: cam Ward was there last year in Green Bay and
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Speaker 2: some of other quarterbacks have gone on one overall. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's the most important position in the NFL, and you know,
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Speaker 2: I think it's certainly hurts their product. But also knowing
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Speaker 2: the way that they cover the draft and the way
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Speaker 2: that they operate, there's still going to be plenty of
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Speaker 2: cameras inside of their home or wherever they decide to
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Speaker 2: have their celebration in Miami from the Mendoza family. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, for you know, kind of that
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Speaker 2: experience of you know, not having the top overall guy
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Speaker 2: in the draft, you know, the projected best player in
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Speaker 2: the draft, or the guy that's going to go number
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Speaker 2: one overall. You know, I do think the NFL is obviously,
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Speaker 2: you know, probably disappointed about it and going to continue
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Speaker 2: to try and push and get the feature in the
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Speaker 2: Olympics there and make it kind of a yearly thing
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Speaker 2: for them.
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Speaker 4: How much clarity is coming into shape with the draft
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Speaker 4: approaching around what's next after Fernanda Mendoza. I haven't seen
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Speaker 4: a ton of consensus on like the number two even
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Speaker 4: the best available lineman. It seems like, you know, even
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Speaker 4: if you just go by the mock drafts and the reports,
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of people who maybe have differing opinions
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Speaker 4: on these prospects this year. Is that is it diverging
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Speaker 4: as we get closer to the draft when a turn
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Speaker 4: comes to the opinions on these guys, or do are
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Speaker 4: we finding some level of consensus as now you've got
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Speaker 4: all the information that we're going to get, you know.
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Speaker 2: Past I would say usually around this time of the year,
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Speaker 2: you kind of have a good feeling of where those
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Speaker 2: first couple of picks are going to go. But this year,
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Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit different because you know,
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Speaker 2: they're you know, you know, Mendoza is gonna go number one,
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Speaker 2: but you know where the Jet's going to do at
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Speaker 2: number two. Obviously they're between a couple of prospects like
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Speaker 2: you know, R V. Reese and David Bailey, even the
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Speaker 2: Cardinals at number three. You know, they haven't met with
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Speaker 2: any potential first round mindman so far in the HROT process,
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Speaker 2: like bringing them for visits or anything like that. And
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Speaker 2: obviously they showed a lot of interest in guy like
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love and you know, Ruben Bain, So, I think
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Speaker 2: this year the diverging opinions is kind of reflective of
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Speaker 2: not knowing exactly where uh, you know, picks after the
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Speaker 2: first pick with the Raiders, who's going to come off
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Speaker 2: the board next, because I think that continues to you know,
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Speaker 2: we'll shape you know, what happens in the next couple
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Speaker 2: of picks, like say r Roll Reese does go number two. Okay,
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Speaker 2: well the Cardinal have you know, you know, could pick
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Speaker 2: David Dailey, Grooven Bange or my Love. You know. So
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Speaker 2: there's so many different ways that these teams can go
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Speaker 2: inside the top five that you know, I don't think,
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Speaker 2: you know, as opposed to years past, you know exactly
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Speaker 2: who those five players are going to be in the
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Speaker 2: first five picks. I don't think that's the case this year.
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Speaker 2: And it's making a little bit difficult to project exactly
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Speaker 2: how that first round is going to go because it
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Speaker 2: can go, you know, a number of different ways, and
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Speaker 2: no team seems to have, you know, tip their hand
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Speaker 2: in terms of where they're going to go, where they're leaning.
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Speaker 4: Devin Jackson, NFL Draft Insider, our guest here on the
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Speaker 4: Sean O'Connell Show, as the NFL Draft comes up in
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Speaker 4: just over two weeks, and the University of Utah has
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Speaker 4: a couple of guys that are hoping to hear their
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Speaker 4: name called on day one. Caleb Lomo and Spencer Fano.
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Speaker 4: We're excellent at the tackle positions for this University of
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Speaker 4: Utah football team. And you know, I've seen mostly Spencer
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Speaker 4: in that top fifteen range, Caleb in the final five
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Speaker 4: or six picks of the first round or sliding into
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Speaker 4: the second.
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Speaker 1: Are you hearing anything I'm not.
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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty accurate in where their stock lies.
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Speaker 2: You know, I think Fano is kind of an interesting
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Speaker 2: one because you know, earlier I feel like in the
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Speaker 2: cycle he was going consistently in the top five, top ten,
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Speaker 2: but now I think it's mostly like top ten, top fifteen,
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Speaker 2: maybe even slipping to the late teams. And I think
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Speaker 2: Lomu is going to be a guy that you know,
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Speaker 2: a lot of people will just expect him to be
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Speaker 2: there at the late round one, early in round two,
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Speaker 2: but I think he's going to go, you know, within
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Speaker 2: the first twenty twenty five picks, because I think there's
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Speaker 2: gonna be a big run of offensive tackles going off
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Speaker 2: the board in the first round, especially after you get
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Speaker 2: outside of the top ten. So I think you know
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Speaker 2: we're keeping that in mind. I think Lomu probably has
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Speaker 2: a little bit higher sung and thought about a little
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Speaker 2: bit more highly than the consensus seems to think of.
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Speaker 2: But I think you're pretty spot on on Fano and
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Speaker 2: where he's being valued right now.
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Speaker 4: You may have just answered this next question, but you know,
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Speaker 4: it's a quarterback weak draft, and a lot of times
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Speaker 4: that grabs all the headlines from a position group standpoint.
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Speaker 4: We're seeing Fernanda Mendoza and then like maybe Ty Simpson
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Speaker 4: in the first round, maybe no other quarterbacks in the
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Speaker 4: first round. With an absence of quarterbacks sucking up all
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Speaker 4: the oxygen and the attention, what position group do you
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Speaker 4: think is going to be featured most in that first round?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I were to bet, I'd probably say tackle
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Speaker 2: or receiver. I think those two positions. You know, no
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Speaker 2: matter what the strengths of the drafts are, I think
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Speaker 2: the NFL has an offensive line problem right now, and
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Speaker 2: there's not a not a lot of quality off intive
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Speaker 2: linem and available and free agency. Most of the time,
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Speaker 2: you're if you're those type of guys, it's in the
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Speaker 2: draft or you're trading for them, you know. So I think,
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Speaker 2: especially with the offensive line group, I think has a
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Speaker 2: chance to go you know, six, seven and maybe eight
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Speaker 2: players you know, go off the board in the first round.
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Speaker 2: And then receiver. You know, there's always a big run
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Speaker 2: on receivers in the first round, and I think there's
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Speaker 2: at least five to six worthy candidates and going off
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Speaker 2: the board. But if I had to bet today, I
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Speaker 2: think offensive line will probably be probably be the position
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Speaker 2: group that that goes most frequently in Route one, especially
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Speaker 2: with a lot of teams that are you know, kind
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Speaker 2: of rebuilding and trying to look toward the future and
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Speaker 2: trying to figure things out, you know, on the offensive
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Speaker 2: line standpoint, and you know, you know throughout the week
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Speaker 2: that I mean, there's been some other guys that have
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Speaker 2: emerged into late round one names in terms of like
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Speaker 2: interior offensive line, and because I feel like that's an
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Speaker 2: area of the draft that is pretty strong in the
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Speaker 2: first couple of rounds. So yeah, I think off into
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Speaker 2: line will probably be my pick in terms of the
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Speaker 2: position just picked most. You know, by the time we
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Speaker 2: get to draft.
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Speaker 4: In the Arizona State's got a couple of guys that
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Speaker 4: really interest me at two positions you just mentioned. We'll
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Speaker 4: start with the offensive line and Ihan Akor the He
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Speaker 4: had an incredible combine, he had incredible pro excuse me,
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Speaker 4: Senior Bowl week, and I've started to see his name
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Speaker 4: preep onto some of these lists. Is like the third
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Speaker 4: or fourth best available tackle? Is he a first round pick?
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Speaker 2: I think so? Yeah. He has the tools. You know,
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Speaker 2: he has a length to size, the athleticism, He's continuing
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Speaker 2: to check boxes throughout the draft cycle. Saw him down
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Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl and he had a really strong
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Speaker 2: week there, had a strong testing day at the combine.
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Speaker 2: You know, you have you know Mike Rabel, you know,
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Speaker 2: has Pro Day and and you know doing some hands
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Speaker 2: on you know, drills with him there as well. So
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Speaker 2: to me, it seems like he feels definitely like a
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Speaker 2: late first round pick, a player that teams take, you know,
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Speaker 2: maybe as a developmental guy, and you know he kind
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Speaker 2: of develops his game, continues to round up, round out
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Speaker 2: his game at the NFL level and become a future starter.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, he seems like a guy that is absolutely
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Speaker 2: going to go in the first round. You know, he's
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Speaker 2: exactly what teams look for in offensive tackles and especially
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Speaker 2: going that range. So yeah, I would expect him to
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Speaker 2: go in the first round.
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Speaker 4: What about Jordan Tyson, He's you know, there's a conversation
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Speaker 4: about injury with him. He was obviously an incredible talent
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Speaker 4: for that same Sun Devil's team.
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Speaker 1: Where where do you think he goes?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been a little bit harder to project because,
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Speaker 2: similarly to Fano, early in the cycle, he felt like
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Speaker 2: a guy that no doubt was going to go in
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Speaker 2: the top ten, top fifteen. Obviously injury concerns. He hasn't
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Speaker 2: had a chance to really work out during the pre
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Speaker 2: draft process. There's concern obviously the previous injuries his hamstring,
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Speaker 2: and I think he had a knee injury a few
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Speaker 2: years ago when he was at Colorado. So yeah, he's
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Speaker 2: a hard one to pinpoint where exactly he's going to go.
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Speaker 2: He's absolutely a first round caliber receiver. He could be
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Speaker 2: the first receiver off the board. He could be the
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Speaker 2: fourth or fifth, just depending on how comfortable teams are
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Speaker 2: with you know, kind of where his athletics standpoint stands,
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Speaker 2: and in terms of health and where he projects going
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Speaker 2: forward over the next couple of years. He's going to
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Speaker 2: be a guy that can stay on the field when
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Speaker 2: he's on a few He was incredible athlete, a credible,
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Speaker 2: incredible player, one of the more well rounding, well rounded
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Speaker 2: receivers in this draft class, and certainly has the talent
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Speaker 2: to be a number one receiver on the NFL team.
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Speaker 2: But there are some other questions that he has to
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Speaker 2: answer and a team has to feel comfortable with taking
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Speaker 2: taking a chance on him. But he certainly should be
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Speaker 2: a guy that you know, goes within the first twenty picks.
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's kind of one of those things
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Speaker 2: that our team's comfortable with his long term health, and
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Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest question with him right now.
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Speaker 4: We saw a couple of headlines guys splash pushing at
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Speaker 4: their HBCU showcase workouts the IPP International Player Program in
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Speaker 4: the NFL finding maybe some well not not maybe finding
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Speaker 4: some elite athletes. They did find some incredibly elite athletes,
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Speaker 4: and the headline was that you are Bernard kid.
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Speaker 1: Does he end up on an NFL roster? Probably not
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Speaker 1: this year, but.
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Speaker 2: Ever I think so, you know, we've seen even players
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Speaker 2: from the IPP program, you know, end up you know,
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Speaker 2: I think the most famous initial in my lotta who
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Speaker 2: is the starting left tackle for the Eagles now. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I certainly think he ends up on NFL roster. Maybe
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Speaker 2: he stashed away on a practice squad for a few
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Speaker 2: years as he continues to learn the game and continues
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Speaker 2: to you know, develop into a football player, because he's
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Speaker 2: not right now. But yeah, I think those type of
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Speaker 2: players always find a home in NFL. I think just
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Speaker 2: last month there was a basketball player that the Colts
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Speaker 2: turned into an a tied end. So I think that
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Speaker 2: those type of athletes, guys that have the physical traits
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Speaker 2: and physical ability you know, and tests like the way
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Speaker 2: he did, they're they're always going to find an NFL home.
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Speaker 2: And I just think it's a matter of how soon
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Speaker 2: can you get on the field. He's probably three to
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Speaker 2: four years away from actually, uh, you know, turning into
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Speaker 2: or you know, a rosterable player, But I think he's
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Speaker 2: going to end up on a practice squad and a
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Speaker 2: team's going to take a chance. You know, it's going
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Speaker 2: to be a long term developmental you know, guy that
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Speaker 2: is really going to take a few years to really
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Speaker 2: round into shape. But yeah, the NFL team, uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: digging long term there. I think they're absolutely absolutely going
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Speaker 2: to take a chance on them.
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Speaker 1: My lot has obviously worked out quite nicely.
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Speaker 4: Let's say that this guy, after some investments, some work,
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Speaker 4: he works out nicely. How much more robust could the
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Speaker 4: international scouting program be in the NFL, because I mean,
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Speaker 4: it's it's still very much in North America can sport
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Speaker 4: and mostly the United States of American sport. Obviously you
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Speaker 4: get some talent from Canada, but it feels like you're
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Speaker 4: we're just just barely barely scratching the surface on what
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Speaker 4: could happen with those big bodies being brought from everywhere,
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Speaker 4: because it you know, it's hard to make starting offensive
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Speaker 4: tackle or big time pass rusher money and other sports
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Speaker 4: when you're six five sixty six and two fifty plus.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about the punter position and the number
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Speaker 2: of guys that you know, go through from you know,
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Speaker 2: transfer from you know, playing rugby or Australian rules football
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Speaker 2: and become a punter and go on to be a
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Speaker 2: guy that you know, becomes a consistent NFL player, you
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Speaker 2: like someone like Tory Taylor. So, you know, I think
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Speaker 2: with the nfo's reach in continuing to expand, and you know,
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Speaker 2: playing in these different cities and you know, continuing to
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Speaker 2: try to grow their brand and in all these different areas.
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Speaker 2: I think it just opens more for the possibility of
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Speaker 2: these international players coming over and you know, being guys
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Speaker 2: that turned into the NFL players eventually, whether it's through
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Speaker 2: you know, an I p P program where they're you know,
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Speaker 2: they play their entire life in Europe and then go
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Speaker 2: to college in the United States and then become an
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Speaker 2: NFL player. You know, I think about Peter Clark, who's
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Speaker 2: a tight end right now at at Temple University. Uh.
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Speaker 2: You know, I got a chance to talk with him
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Speaker 2: last fall, and he lived his entire life and London,
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Speaker 2: went through the NFL Academy program and became, you know,
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Speaker 2: one of Temple's best tight ends they've had in the
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Speaker 2: last ten to fifteen years. So I think there's already
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Speaker 2: starting to kind of be of a pipeline of NFL Academy,
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Speaker 2: the I p P program. You know, they're they're doing
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Speaker 2: so many things are ready to you know, kind of
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Speaker 2: create those opportunities for international players that don't slip through
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Speaker 2: the cracks and you know, don't slip through uh and
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Speaker 2: and end up turning to to be NFL players, you know,
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Speaker 2: down the line, through through other or other means that
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Speaker 2: are the resources. I think the NFL has already kind
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Speaker 2: of made that pipeline start to happen. I think there
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Speaker 2: might be a little bit more emphasis and you know,
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Speaker 2: maybe they're sending NFL scouts internationally, you know, during during
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Speaker 2: the year to try and even expand their reach a
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Speaker 2: little bit more and not just relying on these programs
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Speaker 2: like I P, P and F in the NFL Academy
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Speaker 2: to do so. So I think there there are plenty
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Speaker 2: of possibilities for the NFL to continue to make their
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Speaker 2: footprint known internationally. And I think scouting, uh, these international
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Speaker 2: players and giving them opportunities to prove that they can
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Speaker 2: play at the NFL level, I think that's uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: kind of the next step and next natural step for
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Speaker 2: them to to continue to expand their reach.
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Speaker 4: All right, before I let you go, I'm going to
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Speaker 4: give you a top five pick, and I'm going to
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Speaker 4: tell you you have to take either David Bailey or
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Speaker 4: Rvel Reese.
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Speaker 1: Who you takeing.
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking RVL Reese. I think right now he has
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a stronger baseline as a prospect.
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Speaker 2: I think with David Bailey, uh, you're thinking about the
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Speaker 2: high end. He can be a high end pass rusher.
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Speaker 2: You know, he can be a disruptor. Uh. But when
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Speaker 2: I think about r L Res, He's already a really
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Speaker 2: good athlete. He is already a really strong run defender. Uh.
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Speaker 2: He rushes with power and the limited passport rest he has,
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Speaker 2: and you're just teaching him a little bit more the
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Speaker 2: nuances of the position. You know, he's already a good
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Speaker 2: football player instincts, has already shown the ability to play
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Speaker 2: at the second level and play in space. I think
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Speaker 2: he just brings you and gives you more, uh you know,
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Speaker 2: to defense and than David Bailey does. Right now. I
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Speaker 2: think Bailey much stronger, uh you know, run or pass
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Speaker 2: rusher than run defender at this current moment. And I'm
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Speaker 2: not sure if he's going to ever be a true
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Speaker 2: three down threat in terms of like he's wrecking plays
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Speaker 2: and correct a whole series. Certainly he's going to be
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Speaker 2: a really good pass rusher, has the twitchings the explosiveness
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Speaker 2: to get to the passer. But with Reese, You're you're
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Speaker 2: really getting a full package that you know thrives on
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Speaker 2: run rundowns, shedding blocks, and now you're adding the pass
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Speaker 2: rush repertoire and he's you know, training a lot and
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Speaker 2: doing so so right now, I would say I value
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Speaker 2: RB O rees over David Daily.
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Speaker 1: Devin, always appreciate your time. Let's have you out again
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Speaker 1: draft week.
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Speaker 2: All right, yeah, absolutely, thank you so much.
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Speaker 4: Devin Jackson, NFL drafts analysts and sports editor over at
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Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Inquirer. He will be in Pittsburgh for Draft Day.
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Speaker 4: We'll get him on Draft week