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So That Happened: Eight Incredibly Weird UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and thank you
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Speaker 1: for joining me for a new episode of UFO's in
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Speaker 1: the Paranormal. Today's episode is called So that Happened Eight
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Speaker 1: incredibly weird UFO Encounters. There are no humanoids in this episode.
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Speaker 1: These are all close encounters of the second kind, and
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Speaker 1: by that I mean cases in which UFOs affected the
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Speaker 1: physical environment in some way. So yeah, no humanoids, but
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Speaker 1: I guarantee it you will find these cases very interesting.
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Speaker 1: They're incredibly strange. I've got cases from a wide variety
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Speaker 1: of locations, one from Denmark, two from Holland, and five
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Speaker 1: from the United States, including Connecticut, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York,
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Speaker 1: and West Virginia. These cases reached back to nineteen sixty
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Speaker 1: six up to twenty thirteen, pretty recent. But most importantly,
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Speaker 1: they contain really compelling evidence. The full range of evidence
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Speaker 1: we see associated with UFO encounters, including radar returns, actual
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Speaker 1: photographs of UFOs, but landing traces, electromagnetic disturbances, physiological effects,
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Speaker 1: animal reactions, the whole deal, and boy, oh boy, are
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Speaker 1: these cases weird. First case I'd like to talk about
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Speaker 1: today I call a UFO collides into a house This
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Speaker 1: is a very strange case. I hadn't heard it before.
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Speaker 1: I was quite stunned to hear about this one, which
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Speaker 1: does involve multiple witnesses, multiple events, actually has radiation readings
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Speaker 1: along with it. It's a very compelling case. It occurred
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Speaker 1: on April twenty third, nineteen sixty six, in Dorchester, Massachusetts.
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Speaker 1: I think you're going to find this one really amazing.
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Speaker 1: It was about ten forty five pm on April twenty third,
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, when Jeenekwnicki was in her apartment home
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Speaker 1: located at one two eighty four Dorchester Avenue. This is
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Speaker 1: in Dorchester, which is a suburb of Boston, Massachusetts, and
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Speaker 1: she was listening to a WMEX radio talk show moderated
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Speaker 1: by Steve Fredericks. And this is when he took a
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Speaker 1: phone call from a woman in the area who said
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Speaker 1: she had just seen a UFO moving over Dorchester Avenue,
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Speaker 1: which is gene Kalnicky Street. She was shocked, so she
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Speaker 1: quickly grabbed two of her six children, Judy age eleven,
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Speaker 1: Robin aged nine, and ran with both of them to
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Speaker 1: the front bedroom of their third floor apartment, which overlooked
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Speaker 1: Dorchester Avenue and looking out the window, they were shocked
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Speaker 1: to see a UFO floating just a few feet away
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Speaker 1: outside of her apartment windows, floating right across Dorchester Avenue,
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Speaker 1: right above Ernie's auto repair shop. Now, this craft had
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Speaker 1: a typical saucer shape, had one large yellow light and
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Speaker 1: circular red blinking lights around the circumference, with a transparent
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Speaker 1: bubble on top. These lights were all flashing on and off,
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Speaker 1: and the craft itself was bobbing up and down as
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Speaker 1: it moved to the south direction. But then it stopped,
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Speaker 1: hovered over a sign on top of the Auster built
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Speaker 1: company building, and as it started to move out of view,
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Speaker 1: the three witnesses as a group ran back to the
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Speaker 1: living room to look out the other window, and they
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Speaker 1: watched as it crossed the street and now came straight
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Speaker 1: towards them, exactly at eye level. In fact, it approached
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Speaker 1: so close that they feared a collision and stepped back
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Speaker 1: from their window. At this point, they could hear it
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Speaker 1: making a low humming sound as it passed right between
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Speaker 1: their apartment building and the one next door. It then
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Speaker 1: moved almost to the end of the alleyway between the buildings,
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Speaker 1: then stopped and hovered for several minutes, and as this
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Speaker 1: yellow light on top blinked off and on, they could
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Speaker 1: see that this transparent dome on top was glowing from within.
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Speaker 1: Then the object moved erratically off to the east and
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Speaker 1: was gone, but the encounter wasn't over yet. Jean, Judy,
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Speaker 1: and Robin returned to the front bedroom and excitedly discussed
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Speaker 1: their sighting. At this point, Jean's seventeen year old son, David,
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Speaker 1: walked in after walking the dog outside and hearing his family.
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Speaker 1: He called the newspaper and learned that numerous people in
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Speaker 1: the area had called into report seeing a UFO, presumably
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Speaker 1: the same one. It turned out that there was in
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Speaker 1: fact an advertising plane flying that night in the area
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Speaker 1: with a big sign behind it, and this was being
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Speaker 1: used to explain the sighting. But further research by Raymond
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Speaker 1: Fowler showed that this plane had actually landed at ten thirty,
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Speaker 1: which absolutely ruled out the Kolniki family he's sighting. So
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Speaker 1: they were so excited by their encounter that most of
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Speaker 1: them were unable to sleep that night, and hours later,
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Speaker 1: at five am, eleven year old Judy was lying awake
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Speaker 1: in bed thinking about the encounter. Her nine year old sister,
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Speaker 1: Robin was asleep in the bed by the window. So
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Speaker 1: Judy's still thinking about this strange craft when there's suddenly
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Speaker 1: a brilliant flash of light which lights up the window,
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Speaker 1: right through the Venetian blinds and illuminates her bed. Now
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Speaker 1: this filled her with fear, but she was too afraid
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Speaker 1: to call attention to herself, so she called out softly
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Speaker 1: to her mother. Now, when her mom didn't hear, Judy
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Speaker 1: leaped out of bed and walked up to the window.
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Speaker 1: Looking out, she saw this same object again, only this
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Speaker 1: time it was close enough that had the window been opened,
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Speaker 1: she said, she could have actually reached out and probably
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Speaker 1: touched it. She said it was about the size of
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Speaker 1: a car, disc shaped with again red lights around the edge,
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Speaker 1: a dome on top with a bright yellow blinking light.
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Speaker 1: And as she saw it, this object began to bob
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Speaker 1: up and down in front of the window. So Judy
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Speaker 1: at this point is rooted to the spot with fear.
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Speaker 1: She screams in terror. As if in response, the object
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Speaker 1: begins to bump, bob up and down even more quickly,
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Speaker 1: and then suddenly there was a heavy, dull thud as
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Speaker 1: this object apparently struck the side of the house in fact,
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Speaker 1: all of the windows in the house rattled. Judy's bed
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Speaker 1: rocked back and forth, and all the lights in the
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Speaker 1: house immediately went out. And as Judy herself says, it
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Speaker 1: was so close I could almost touch it. It had
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Speaker 1: a bubble on top that seemed to be round, with
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Speaker 1: red lights around the edge. It seemed to be made
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Speaker 1: partly of silvery gray metal, with no doors. It banged
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Speaker 1: against the house as we watched it. I was sitting
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Speaker 1: in my bed and it rocked the bed back and forth.
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Speaker 1: Then the lights in the house went out, so still screaming,
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Speaker 1: Judy ran from her room. At that same moment, their
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Speaker 1: German shepherd dog whined and scratched at the back porch door. Jean,
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Speaker 1: her son, David, and two friends, Mary Burdick and Helen
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Speaker 1: Litchfield all together ran out onto the back porch and
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Speaker 1: saw the same object again, only this by this point
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Speaker 1: it had moved off a mile or two away. They
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Speaker 1: watched for about twelve minutes, at which point the house
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Speaker 1: lights came back on, so they returned inside and David
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Speaker 1: called the Dorchester police. They immediately tried to explain the
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Speaker 1: sighting away as a nightmare or lightning, but there was
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Speaker 1: a Boston Globe photographer at the police station when the
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Speaker 1: kalnikis called, so he went directly to their house along
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Speaker 1: with Roland Oxland, another newspaper photographer, and per Roland. The
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Speaker 1: kids were quote still hysterical and crying. Now UFO researcher
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Speaker 1: Walter Webb heard about this sighting and didn't some investigations
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Speaker 1: and he learned that there was in fact a power
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Speaker 1: failure affecting twenty five hundred homes and it was at
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Speaker 1: the exact same time of the Kalmnike's sighting, so that
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Speaker 1: tracked perfectly and in fact tracing this power failure, they
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Speaker 1: found two faulty cables on poll number two on East Street,
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Speaker 1: which was located only one block northwest of the Kalmnike's residence.
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Speaker 1: Now NIGHTCAP researcher Ernest Reid went to the house and
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Speaker 1: tested the windowsill in Judy's room with a Geiger counter,
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Speaker 1: and he did find evidence of radiation that was beyond
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Speaker 1: normal levels. And Walter Webb, after speaking to all the
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Speaker 1: witnesses and Judy, he was convinced that Judy, who wasn't
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Speaker 1: in fact an honor student, was telling the truth. As
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Speaker 1: he says, if it were a hoax. She was a
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Speaker 1: very good actress to cry as convincingly as she did.
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Speaker 1: Police officers and news photographers found the whole family upset.
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Speaker 1: I questioned Judy very closely. I don't think someone perpetrating
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Speaker 1: a hoax could make a child stick to such a
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Speaker 1: detailed story under repeated interrogations over such a long period.
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Speaker 1: Her account impressed me, to say the least. And as
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Speaker 1: Judy says, I always used to say that there was
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Speaker 1: no such thing as a flying saucer. I thought those
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Speaker 1: people who said they saw them were making it up.
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Speaker 1: Now that I saw one myself, I never want to
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Speaker 1: see one again now. In further support of the Kawniki's case,
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Speaker 1: only one day earlier and a mere thirty two miles
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Speaker 1: to the north, on the evening of April twenty second,
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, at around nine p m. Nance See Modugno,
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Speaker 1: age eleven, looked out her bedroom window in Beverly, Massachusetts
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Speaker 1: and saw an incredibly strange looking object lying just above
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Speaker 1: Sohere Road. This is only forty feet from her window,
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Speaker 1: and as she says, the object had four lights, red, blue, green,
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Speaker 1: and a lamp color. It looked like a football, but
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Speaker 1: was the size of a car on top. It had
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Speaker 1: no windows, the front was pointed. I was terrified. I
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Speaker 1: had no idea what it was. It would be like
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Speaker 1: if a car was in the air right outside your window.
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Speaker 1: That's how I remember it being. I think it was metallic,
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Speaker 1: and I remembered the flashing lights. I knew instantly that
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Speaker 1: it was nothing I'd ever seen before. She rushed down
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Speaker 1: told her parents. They didn't believe her at first, but
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Speaker 1: finally she persuaded them to go outside and they all,
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Speaker 1: a whole group of adults saw this object hovering over
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Speaker 1: nearby Beverly High School, and in fact, it came so
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Speaker 1: low overhead, dropping out of the sky that one of
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Speaker 1: the witnesses was so frightened she actually urinated herself. I
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Speaker 1: did cover this case in more detail in my episode
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Speaker 1: on schoolyard Encounters if you'd like to hear more about this,
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Speaker 1: but it's amazing confirmation of the case that occurred the
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Speaker 1: day later and when final probably related case occurred on
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Speaker 1: April twelve, nineteen sixty six. This is again in Dorchester,
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Speaker 1: was around seven forty five pm when witnesses saw a low,
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Speaker 1: flying oval shaped object with a dome and colored lights.
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Speaker 1: It exhibited the same behavior as seen over Beverly. It
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Speaker 1: circled over a schoolhouse, bobbing up and down, and at
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Speaker 1: the time there was an unexplained power failure in the
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Speaker 1: neighboring town of Roxbury. Then five days later, on April seventeenth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, a UFO was seen hovering over a
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Speaker 1: sk in Peabody, Massachusetts. Again, it was oval with a
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Speaker 1: dome on top and had red, green, blue, and white lights,
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Speaker 1: and after hovering, the object moved rapidly away with an
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Speaker 1: oscillating motion. How weird is that there are not a
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Speaker 1: lot of cases like that. In fact, I think that
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Speaker 1: one is probably unique in the UFO literature. There might
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Speaker 1: be some out there that just haven't been reported. But
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Speaker 1: like many cases, this one involves a series of events.
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Speaker 1: Rarely is a UFO encounter a one off and isolated event.
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Speaker 1: Usually there are a lot of people experiencing activity in
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Speaker 1: a location at one time, but again, most people don't
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Speaker 1: report it. And would you if something like that happened?
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next case, which
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Speaker 1: is also incredibly weird, I mean, just beyond bizarre. I
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Speaker 1: call this one a UFO with a message. This is
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Speaker 1: occurred in December twelveth nineteen sixty seven, in Ithaca, New York,
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Speaker 1: and this was during a very intense wave of UFO sightings.
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Speaker 1: The full range of encounters, but this one involved a
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Speaker 1: lady who received a very personal message. ETS do provide
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Speaker 1: messages to people. This kind of message is incredibly profound,
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Speaker 1: very personal, really poignant, and I think you'll find this
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Speaker 1: case really compelling. This exceptionally unusual case was investigated by
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Speaker 1: William D. Donovan and again it took place during a
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Speaker 1: huge wave of activity in Ithaca, New York. In fact,
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Speaker 1: involved about one thousand sightings over a very short period
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Speaker 1: of time. But the primary witness in this case is
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Speaker 1: Rita Nally, aged twenty four. She's a part time beautician
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Speaker 1: and mother of two. Her daughter, Renee was six months
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Speaker 1: old at the time and her son Dana was in
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Speaker 1: kindergarten now. On the night in question, December twelve, nineteen
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Speaker 1: sixty seven, she was driving home from North Lansing, where
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Speaker 1: she had visited a friend, to her home in South Lansing,
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Speaker 1: New York. Her son Dana was in the back seat.
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Speaker 1: They were en route thirty four between Auburn and Ithaka,
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Speaker 1: and her son was jibber jabbering like crazy, just talking
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Speaker 1: like a little kid does. Rita was paying very close
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Speaker 1: attention to driving as the wind was blowing quite strong
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Speaker 1: and there were occasional snow flurries. It's about seven p m.
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Speaker 1: Coming around a corner, Rita noticed something very strange. As
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Speaker 1: she says in her own words, I noticed this brilliant
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Speaker 1: red glow like on the inside of my car. I
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Speaker 1: thought it's a police car. I've been speeding. I looked
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Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror and saw nothing. It was
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Speaker 1: nothing but this red light covering everything, And I thought,
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Speaker 1: what is it? And I could just figure it out.
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Speaker 1: And I was shaken like a leaf trying to figure
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Speaker 1: a way out of this. So she thought it was
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Speaker 1: the police, but she didn't see any police car, nor
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Speaker 1: did she hear any sirens. So she just kept driving
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Speaker 1: and that's when the UFO appeared, and, as Rita says,
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Speaker 1: I was suddenly panicked. This object, whatever it was, suddenly
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Speaker 1: appeared on my left. It came into sight over a
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Speaker 1: telephone pole. I glanced out and I saw brilliant red
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Speaker 1: and green lights underneath an object that was airborne. It
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Speaker 1: must have been fifty five to sixty feet in diameter.
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Speaker 1: It was round and had a little dome like thing
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Speaker 1: on the top, and it tilted once. You couldn't look
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Speaker 1: right out and stare at it for long because the
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Speaker 1: lights were so bright from it. So at this point,
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Speaker 1: Rita realized that her son Dana, was unnaturally quiet, and
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Speaker 1: she looked back at him and saw that his eyes
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Speaker 1: were bugging out of his head, is how she put it.
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Speaker 1: So she screamed at him, are you all right? And weirdly,
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Speaker 1: he didn't respond in any way. He just sat there,
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Speaker 1: staring straight ahead, as if in a complete trance. So
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Speaker 1: she looked back at the object. She could see it
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Speaker 1: was about one hundred and twenty feet high, one hundred
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Speaker 1: and eighty feet away, And the next thing she knew,
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Speaker 1: this object sent down a beam of light which struck
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Speaker 1: her car. As she says, it extended a white beam
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Speaker 1: of light from underneath, and it just completely took right
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Speaker 1: over the controls of my car. My car stopped moving
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Speaker 1: when it stopped. My first thought was to grab Dana
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Speaker 1: and get out of the car and run. Then I thought,
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Speaker 1: what good is it to run? This object? This thing
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Speaker 1: has got complete control of me. I was shaking. I
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Speaker 1: just didn't know what to do what was happening. I
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Speaker 1: became hysterical. I couldn't scream. My throat felt tight, it
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Speaker 1: was dry. The situation was weird. This was the first
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Speaker 1: time I had ever been really scared. My eyes started hurting,
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Speaker 1: started burning, and I couldn't swallow. So there were no
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Speaker 1: other cars on the road. Her head lights had gone out.
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Speaker 1: She did see the lights of a house, but they
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Speaker 1: were about a mile away. She tried stamping on the accelerator,
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Speaker 1: but nothing happened. Then the colored lights on this object
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Speaker 1: started flashing, and she realized that her car was now moving.
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Speaker 1: As she says, this thing was taking me off the road.
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Speaker 1: I twisted and turned the steering wheel in the opposite direction.
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Speaker 1: But no matter what I did, I even tried using
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Speaker 1: the brakes to stop, my car gradually moved sideways and
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Speaker 1: took me under the shoulder of the road. So this
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Speaker 1: object pulled her car about ten feet off the shoulder.
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Speaker 1: Rita could now actually hear the object, which was making
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Speaker 1: a humming sound, which she said was very much like
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Speaker 1: a swarm of bees, or maybe a TV antenna blowing
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Speaker 1: in the wind. Then the humming sound stopped, and this
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Speaker 1: is when she heard voices talking to her again. I'll
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Speaker 1: just let Reda describe this. As she says, these voices
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Speaker 1: came out of the thing, this hovering object. I want
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Speaker 1: to explain. My windows were rolled up tight, and as
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Speaker 1: I said, the wind was blowing. The voices sounded like
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Speaker 1: a group of people, a chorus of voices. They were
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Speaker 1: all talking at the same time, saying the same thing.
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Speaker 1: Only they spoke as if what they were saying was
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Speaker 1: being translated into English because the words were broken. These
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Speaker 1: were not impressions in my mind. They were external coming
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Speaker 1: from that hovering thing. They sounded like maybe they were
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Speaker 1: talking through a loudspeaker, but not quite. I couldn't tell
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Speaker 1: whether they were male or female. There were so many
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Speaker 1: of them, all at once. They gave me a dreadful message.
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Speaker 1: So speaking chorus, the voices from this UFO said, and
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Speaker 1: I quote Paul Donalds Moravia killed in Messina in a
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Speaker 1: tractor trailer owned by Joe Ettinger Moravia. So Rita recognized
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Speaker 1: this man's name. In fact, Paul Donalds was the sister
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Speaker 1: of her friend Marian Donalds. The voices continued and said,
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Speaker 1: your son will not remember the time stop from the
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Speaker 1: car from the time you left the highway, so that
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Speaker 1: was the message. At this point, the UFO moved her
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Speaker 1: car back onto the road. She said. Her car lights
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Speaker 1: came back on, and the car, still apparently under control
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Speaker 1: of the UFO, moved on down the highway. The object
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Speaker 1: was to her left at this point and coming around
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Speaker 1: to straightaway. The object slowly moved off and Rita was
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Speaker 1: able to regain control of her car. Now it took
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Speaker 1: a little bit longer for her to regain her composure,
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Speaker 1: and finally she thought of her son and asked him
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Speaker 1: if he saw anything. She said, did you see what
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Speaker 1: Mama saw? And he replied no. So she drove home
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Speaker 1: to find her husband, John, concerned about why she was
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Speaker 1: so late. She didn't want to tell him. He became
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Speaker 1: increasingly concerned by her silence, and she was clearly upset,
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Speaker 1: so he asked her repeatedly what had happened, and finally
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Speaker 1: she just broke down in tears and told him everything.
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Speaker 1: She said. Physically, she had a headache, some eye pain,
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Speaker 1: and neck pain, and her husband was absolutely shocked by
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Speaker 1: this story. He just wanted to forget the whole thing,
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Speaker 1: as frankly Rita did herself, but that evening she did
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Speaker 1: have a nightmare about the incident, and the next afternoon
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Speaker 1: she got a shocking phone call from her sister who said,
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Speaker 1: what do you think of Paul Donald's getting killed in Messina.
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Speaker 1: Rita was, of course shocked, asked her sister what happened,
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Speaker 1: and it was just as the voices from the UFO
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Speaker 1: had said. He had been killed in a tractor trailer
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Speaker 1: owned by Joel Ettinger. The accident happened around four pm
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Speaker 1: on December twelve, which was about three hours before Rita's
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Speaker 1: sighting and about seventy five miles away. Paul Donald was
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Speaker 1: only twenty nine years old, so Rita's case generated a
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Speaker 1: huge interest when it was published in Popular Science magazine
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Speaker 1: and Fate magazine, and reportedly other experiences followed, but she
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Speaker 1: became so tired of all the publicity and attention she
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Speaker 1: was getting she refused to discuss her experiences any further
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Speaker 1: with any researchers. How weird is that? I mean, there
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Speaker 1: are a lot of cases where people do receive messages,
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Speaker 1: but having a UFO come down and warn you that
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Speaker 1: someone you know has passed on, wow, very strange. And
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Speaker 1: in support of Rita's testimony are the many, many cases
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Speaker 1: that were occurring in that area at that time. Really incredible.
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Speaker 1: Now let's move to another case which is very well verified.
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Speaker 1: This one has photographs, it has radar returns, it's got
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Speaker 1: a great witness, a police officer. It's incredibly well investigated
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Speaker 1: case as well, probably one of Denmark's most famous UFO
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Speaker 1: en conners. I call this one a very hot UFL.
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Speaker 1: This occurred on August thirty, nineteen seventy and Hatterslev, Jutland, Denmark.
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Speaker 1: And I'm actually going to include two cases in this
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Speaker 1: segment because there's one that occurred after it that's remarkably
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Speaker 1: similar and equally strange and compelling. So, as I said,
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Speaker 1: this case is Denmark's perhaps most famous and best verified
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Speaker 1: UFO and Connors certainly among them, and it garnered national
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Speaker 1: headlines and was covered in numerous UFO publications across the world.
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Speaker 1: The witness is Danish police officer Vald Hansen Marup. He
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Speaker 1: was thirty eight years old at the time of his encounter,
23:07
Speaker 1: and it was on August thirty, he's nineteen seventy, around
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Speaker 1: ten fifty pm. He was driving alone in his patrol car.
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Speaker 1: This was an almost brand new six cylinder Ford Zodiac.
23:21
Speaker 1: He was on an isolated road about eight to ten
23:23
Speaker 1: kilometers north of Hatterslev, Denmark, and this is when his
23:28
Speaker 1: life changed forever. He was near the t junction of
23:31
Speaker 1: the Hatterslevveltroop Highway, crossing the road to cab Drup, and,
23:38
Speaker 1: as Yvald says in his own words, suddenly the car
23:42
Speaker 1: was surrounded by a bright, bluish white light, and at
23:46
Speaker 1: the same time the engine stopped. The lights of the
23:49
Speaker 1: car also disappeared. Even the light of the ignition, I
23:53
Speaker 1: drove aside the road and stopped. The bright neon light
23:58
Speaker 1: outside was so dazzling that I could see nothing. With
24:02
Speaker 1: my arm hiding my eyes to protect them against the light,
24:06
Speaker 1: I succeeded in groping my way to the radio. When
24:09
Speaker 1: I got to the microphone and tried to call the station,
24:13
Speaker 1: it appeared that the radio was just as dead as
24:15
Speaker 1: any of the electric installations in the car. So now,
24:20
Speaker 1: with his car dead and the dazzling lights blinding him,
24:23
Speaker 1: Yvald had no choice but to sit in his car
24:26
Speaker 1: and wait to see what would happen next. And soon
24:30
Speaker 1: events escalated to a very concerning level, because, as Ivald says,
24:35
Speaker 1: the temperature inside the car was increasing and it became
24:39
Speaker 1: pleasantly hot. It could be compared to the heat you
24:42
Speaker 1: feel when you drive against the sun on a summer day.
24:45
Speaker 1: Slowly his eyes adjusted to the light over his patrol vehicle,
24:49
Speaker 1: and at the same time the beam of light began
24:52
Speaker 1: to slowly retract, allowing him to see the object, which
24:56
Speaker 1: he estimates was about twenty meters or sixty feet away, And,
25:01
Speaker 1: as Ivald says in his own words, after a while,
25:05
Speaker 1: the light was rising. It was a conical light with
25:08
Speaker 1: a diameter of four to five meters. When I was
25:11
Speaker 1: bending forwards and looking up, I could see that the
25:14
Speaker 1: light cone ended at the bottom of a big gray thing.
25:19
Speaker 1: If I should describe the thing, I can only say
25:22
Speaker 1: that it was circular and about ten meters in diameter.
25:25
Speaker 1: Seen from my position obliquely from below, the object had
25:30
Speaker 1: two extensions or domes at the underside. They were about
25:34
Speaker 1: one and one and a half meters in diameter. Not
25:38
Speaker 1: a sound was heard from this thing. After a few seconds,
25:42
Speaker 1: the light was drawn into the thing. It is difficult
25:45
Speaker 1: to explain how the light was not extinguished, but the
25:49
Speaker 1: bottom of the light was rising so that it became
25:52
Speaker 1: dark under the cone. It took about five minutes for
25:56
Speaker 1: the light to be drawn up. I stepped up out
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Speaker 1: of the car and saw how the last remnant of
26:03
Speaker 1: the light cone disappeared into the bottom of the thing,
26:06
Speaker 1: in a hole with a diameter of not quite a meter.
26:10
Speaker 1: So when Ivald stepped out from his car, he touched
26:14
Speaker 1: the hood and almost burned himself on the hood of
26:16
Speaker 1: the car. It was so hot, and as the cone
26:19
Speaker 1: of light retracted back into the object, it started moving
26:23
Speaker 1: away slowly at first, Yvald thought quickly and managed to
26:27
Speaker 1: snap a series of six photographs of this object with
26:32
Speaker 1: the police car's camera as it moved off. Three of
26:36
Speaker 1: them did not come out, but three of them clearly
26:38
Speaker 1: show this object. In a matter of a few seconds,
26:42
Speaker 1: it vanished vertically into the air, still totally silent. It
26:46
Speaker 1: was around this time that another car did pass him
26:48
Speaker 1: on the highway, and Ivald thought about flagging this driver
26:51
Speaker 1: down to ask if they had seen anything, but the
26:54
Speaker 1: object was gone, so he just let the car drive by.
26:58
Speaker 1: He did check his own cruiser and area, but noticed
27:01
Speaker 1: nothing unusual. He got back into his car. He estimates
27:05
Speaker 1: the entire encounter lasted just a couple of minutes, and,
27:09
Speaker 1: as Ivald says, when the object moved away, all lights
27:14
Speaker 1: in the electric system of the car returned. I tried
27:17
Speaker 1: to start it and it started quite normally. Just as
27:20
Speaker 1: I again was able to get in touch with the station,
27:24
Speaker 1: I reported to the station what I experienced. So this
27:28
Speaker 1: is when he found out that another motorist had also
27:31
Speaker 1: called the station and reported that his car was stopped
27:34
Speaker 1: and roughly the same area on the same night. So,
27:38
Speaker 1: returning home that evening, Yvald's wife immediately noticed that he
27:42
Speaker 1: was pale and frightened. He told her about what happened.
27:46
Speaker 1: He also called the nearest Danish Air Force base, who
27:51
Speaker 1: was very interested in what happened and actually took his
27:54
Speaker 1: film for analysis. He also shared his encounter with his
27:59
Speaker 1: fellow police office. Most believed him, though there was one
28:02
Speaker 1: who expressed some concern about Evald's mental health. Now, it
28:07
Speaker 1: wasn't long before reporters heard about his encounter, and Evald
28:11
Speaker 1: granted a few interviews. But when his experience was published
28:15
Speaker 1: in newspapers, he began to receive constant phone calls and
28:19
Speaker 1: interview requests, which became so numerous that he came to
28:23
Speaker 1: regret going public with his encounters. Now, it turned out
28:27
Speaker 1: that several people in the area did say that they
28:29
Speaker 1: had also seen UFOs on that same night. After three
28:34
Speaker 1: months of investigation, the Danish Air Force closed their investigation
28:38
Speaker 1: of the case, saying that they didn't think Evald had
28:42
Speaker 1: a UFO encounter, and that perhaps he had seen the
28:46
Speaker 1: landing lights of a passing jet aircraft while at the
28:49
Speaker 1: same time there was a meteor in the sky, and
28:53
Speaker 1: at the same time his car, which by the way,
28:56
Speaker 1: again was almost new, coincidentally malfunctioned, so a pretty obviously
29:02
Speaker 1: debunking explanation. Few people agreed with this, and in fact,
29:07
Speaker 1: Ewald himself did recall seeing Air Force jets about ten
29:11
Speaker 1: minutes after his encounter, and they looked quite different. Now,
29:15
Speaker 1: many years later, he found out that a radar operative
29:19
Speaker 1: for the Air Force his name is Nis Kragg, said
29:23
Speaker 1: that he had also seen a UFO on his radar
29:27
Speaker 1: scope on the very same night of Evold's encounter and
29:30
Speaker 1: in the same area. And the story doesn't end here because,
29:34
Speaker 1: by incredible coincidence, exactly three years and one day later,
29:39
Speaker 1: on August fourteen, at ten fifty pm, pretty much the
29:44
Speaker 1: same exact time, Evald was on the same road, this
29:48
Speaker 1: time near school bawling about two kilometers south of his
29:51
Speaker 1: original encounter, when he saw a bright light shining over
29:55
Speaker 1: a field, coming from a saucer type UFO, and in
29:59
Speaker 1: this field he could see several horses and cattle panicking
30:02
Speaker 1: and running around inside this cone of light, and an
30:06
Speaker 1: incredible replay of his previous encounter, this UFO moved towards him,
30:11
Speaker 1: came right overhead shone down a cone of light directly
30:15
Speaker 1: onto his patrol car, once again stopping the car's engine
30:19
Speaker 1: and electrical system. This time, the object was tilted at
30:23
Speaker 1: a forty five degree angle, projecting the beam of light
30:26
Speaker 1: right at him and allowing him to get a good
30:29
Speaker 1: view of the underside of this saucer shaped craft, which
30:33
Speaker 1: he said had three half circular bumps, very similar to
30:37
Speaker 1: the object he had seen earlier. This time he did
30:41
Speaker 1: hear a soft woshing noise coming from the object. He
30:44
Speaker 1: tried to take photos, but they did not come out.
30:48
Speaker 1: Then three years later, in nineteen seventy six, Ivald was
30:52
Speaker 1: driving with another officer along the A ten Highway. This
30:55
Speaker 1: was between Colding and Hatterslab not far away when they
30:59
Speaker 1: both saw I saw another UFO, a glowing dome shaped
31:03
Speaker 1: object floating just above the trees. They drove towards it
31:07
Speaker 1: to get a better look, and the object began to
31:10
Speaker 1: move up and down, then suddenly disappeared. The next day
31:13
Speaker 1: they did learn from the local newspaper that a woman
31:16
Speaker 1: from a nearby village had seen a UFO on the
31:20
Speaker 1: same evening. Now, perhaps related to Evold's encounter, is another
31:26
Speaker 1: equally if not more dramatic car stopping case, which also
31:30
Speaker 1: occurred in Jutland, Denmark. This next case occurred on the
31:34
Speaker 1: evening of September twenty nine, nineteen ninety five, and the
31:39
Speaker 1: witness was twenty four year old Claus Lundholm, who was
31:43
Speaker 1: heading south between brond and Velge on his way to
31:47
Speaker 1: visit his parents. He had his pet dog, a black Labrador,
31:51
Speaker 1: in the car, who was laying on the back seat.
31:54
Speaker 1: It was around nine thirty pm and he was traveling
31:56
Speaker 1: about sixty kilometers per hour and suddenly his dog, for
32:01
Speaker 1: no apparent reason, became nervous. Klaus came around a corner
32:05
Speaker 1: in the road and was shocked to see that the
32:08
Speaker 1: instrument dials on his dashboard went completely crazy. His speedometer
32:14
Speaker 1: dial went up to maximum speed, as did the revolutions dial.
32:19
Speaker 1: Now the temperature dial went into the red and the
32:22
Speaker 1: needles started vibrating back and forth. And at the same time,
32:26
Speaker 1: his windshield wipers started going at high speed and they
32:29
Speaker 1: weren't even turned on. He tried flicking the switch to
32:33
Speaker 1: turn them off, but this had no effect, and his
32:36
Speaker 1: dog at this point became very agitated. And this is
32:39
Speaker 1: when he looked outside his car and saw that his
32:42
Speaker 1: headlights were pulsating in brilliance, becoming dim and then bright,
32:47
Speaker 1: and at the same time his engine began to misfire.
32:51
Speaker 1: Klaus tried pumping the accelerator, but this had no effect.
32:55
Speaker 1: In fact, the engine then went completely dead, as did
32:58
Speaker 1: his headlights and his entire electrical system. The car rolled
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Speaker 1: to a stop in the middle of this dark country road.
33:07
Speaker 1: Now fearful about what was happening, Flaus tried several times
33:11
Speaker 1: to turn the key and start the car, but nothing happened.
33:15
Speaker 1: He did notice one very weird and curious detail. The
33:19
Speaker 1: clock on the dashboard was faintly lit up, but instead
33:23
Speaker 1: of the normal time, it read the numbers eighty eight
33:26
Speaker 1: eighty eight eighty eight. So Klaus at this point fell
33:31
Speaker 1: almost like time had stopped, or that he was moving
33:33
Speaker 1: in slow motion. He continued trying to restart the car,
33:38
Speaker 1: and this is when he began to sense an indescribable
33:41
Speaker 1: oppressive presence coming from overhead. He hadn't seen anything at
33:45
Speaker 1: this point, but twenty seconds into all of this, a
33:49
Speaker 1: blindingly brilliant light exploded over his vehicle, coming from above,
33:54
Speaker 1: he said, It blinked and pulsated rapidly. His dog began
33:58
Speaker 1: to whine furiously and tried to hide under the back seat.
34:02
Speaker 1: Now opening the door and kind of leaning halfway out
34:05
Speaker 1: of his car and looking up, Klaus, who was forced
34:08
Speaker 1: to squint against this brilliant light, saw that this light
34:12
Speaker 1: was in fact coming from a huge disk shaped object
34:16
Speaker 1: right above him. He could see a series of concentric
34:20
Speaker 1: circles of separate lights which were situated on the bottom
34:23
Speaker 1: of the craft, a bunch of them, and they became
34:26
Speaker 1: increasingly brilliant towards the center. The object itself, he estimates,
34:31
Speaker 1: was about fifteen meters wide and only four meters above
34:35
Speaker 1: the car, so, needless to say, this scared him quite badly.
34:40
Speaker 1: He retreated back into his car and shut the door,
34:43
Speaker 1: and looking around him, he could see that the beam
34:46
Speaker 1: of light from this object extended around his car and
34:50
Speaker 1: covered the entire section of the road. He said, it
34:53
Speaker 1: was very sharply defined and weirdly did not illuminate the
34:57
Speaker 1: surrounding area. The light, he said, was a very strong
35:01
Speaker 1: blue white and had a strange quivering quality to it.
35:06
Speaker 1: He was afraid, but very curious, so he rolled down
35:09
Speaker 1: his window and stuck his arm and head outside and
35:12
Speaker 1: looked up, and he did notice something else strange. The
35:16
Speaker 1: light seemed to cause a kind of indefinable but powerful
35:19
Speaker 1: sense of peace and tranquility. While he did still have
35:23
Speaker 1: some fear, he says he also felt this incredible pleasant
35:27
Speaker 1: feeling that he had never experienced before. In fact, he
35:32
Speaker 1: felt like he was about to be taken on board,
35:34
Speaker 1: or that he might see the entities who were piloting
35:36
Speaker 1: this craft. He had a real strong impression that they
35:39
Speaker 1: were recording him or taking his picture in some way. Then,
35:44
Speaker 1: very slowly, the light diminished in intensity, and he saw
35:48
Speaker 1: that the disc shaped object was now moving forward ahead
35:52
Speaker 1: of him. He moved off towards some nearby trees, so
35:55
Speaker 1: low that it had to tip to avoid hitting them.
35:59
Speaker 1: It then moved out of sight. The entire encounter took
36:02
Speaker 1: place in complete silence, so afterwards he sat in his
36:07
Speaker 1: car thoroughly shook up, tried to calm his dog down,
36:10
Speaker 1: who appeared to be equally traumatized. The whole encounter lasted,
36:14
Speaker 1: he says, no longer than one minute. But after about
36:18
Speaker 1: three to four minutes of calming down, he tried to
36:21
Speaker 1: start his car. It did start immediately, the electrical system
36:25
Speaker 1: functioned normally, and he drove straight to his parents and
36:28
Speaker 1: told them what happened. Other than sharing the experience with
36:32
Speaker 1: his parents, he told nobody for some time, But after
36:36
Speaker 1: seeing a documentary about UFOs, he decided to contact researchers
36:40
Speaker 1: who began an investigation, and they discovered that the residence
36:45
Speaker 1: of a farmhouse just a few kilometers away said that
36:49
Speaker 1: at seven twenty pm on that same evening, they were
36:53
Speaker 1: in their kitchen when an object came over their house
36:56
Speaker 1: and sent down a brilliant beam of light into their
36:59
Speaker 1: yard for a full five seconds. Hard to deny cases
37:04
Speaker 1: like that. If there's one thing UFOs are known for,
37:07
Speaker 1: it's coming down over cars driving along at night on
37:11
Speaker 1: a remote highway. There are quite literally hundreds of cases
37:16
Speaker 1: like this, and those two are really compelling cases with
37:22
Speaker 1: quite a bit of evidence as well as not only
37:26
Speaker 1: the radar, the photographs, but animal reactions electromagnetic disturbances of
37:32
Speaker 1: a very strange kind. Can you imagine your windshield wipers
37:35
Speaker 1: going up at high speed and everything just going haywire
37:38
Speaker 1: in your car and then you see this giant craft
37:42
Speaker 1: hovering right overhead. Amazing. Now, let's move to another case,
37:47
Speaker 1: which is largely unique. I don't know that there are
37:50
Speaker 1: many other cases out there like this. There's a few,
37:53
Speaker 1: but none quite like this. I call this one a
37:57
Speaker 1: silver UFO with prongs. This occurred in October of nineteen
38:02
Speaker 1: seventy three in the very tiny town of Wilco, West Virginia.
38:08
Speaker 1: It is a multiple witness case, doesn't have a whole
38:11
Speaker 1: lot of physical evidence to support it, but with double
38:14
Speaker 1: eyewitness testimony that certainly adds a level of credibility to it.
38:20
Speaker 1: And this is a case where we see a UFO
38:23
Speaker 1: hovering over high tension wires. Quite a few cases of
38:27
Speaker 1: that as well. That's one of the reasons I wanted
38:29
Speaker 1: to include this. This very small town of Wilco, West
38:33
Speaker 1: Virginia had a remarkably unusual encounter witnessed by two people,
38:37
Speaker 1: Mary Rose and her eleven year old son, Teddy. This
38:42
Speaker 1: case was investigated by David Badner and Ted Spickler, both
38:46
Speaker 1: Muffon Field investigators, and was published in the Muffon UFO Journal.
38:52
Speaker 1: It was just after dark on a Monday evening in
38:55
Speaker 1: October of nineteen seventy three as Mary and her son
38:59
Speaker 1: Teddy were walking home after visiting Teddy's grandmother. They were
39:04
Speaker 1: approaching some power lines when suddenly a low flying saucer
39:08
Speaker 1: shaped craft covered with bright lights came swooping overhead from
39:13
Speaker 1: behind them. Teddy wondered for just a second if it
39:16
Speaker 1: might be a helicopter, but the object made only a
39:19
Speaker 1: quiet humming noise, so it clearly wasn't a helicopter. Now,
39:24
Speaker 1: at this point, both Rose and Teddy were standing directly
39:28
Speaker 1: under the power lines, and this is when the UFO
39:31
Speaker 1: positioned itself directly above them, and they could see it
39:34
Speaker 1: with a silver white disk about twenty feet in diameter
39:39
Speaker 1: with red, purple and kind of greenish blue lights. Rose
39:43
Speaker 1: became filled with fear when she saw these weird, two
39:47
Speaker 1: silver prong like extrusions coming out from the bottom of
39:52
Speaker 1: this silver disk and lowering down towards them. Now, judging
39:56
Speaker 1: from the advanced look of this object this craft, she
40:01
Speaker 1: definitely believed it was not ours and was from outer space.
40:05
Speaker 1: She was terrified of was trying to capture both her
40:08
Speaker 1: and her son. She said she could feel a strange
40:11
Speaker 1: sensation of heat and electricity coming from these lowering wrongs.
40:17
Speaker 1: So both Rose and Teddy ran from underneath this object
40:21
Speaker 1: to a nearby tool shed about sixty feet away, and
40:24
Speaker 1: hid under the shed. In fact, Rose was so frightened
40:28
Speaker 1: she refused to look at the object and hid her
40:31
Speaker 1: face in her arms. By the time they hid, this
40:35
Speaker 1: object quickly departed, though it took the witnesses a full
40:39
Speaker 1: half hour to compose themselves after this very close and
40:43
Speaker 1: very unusual encounter. A pretty strange case that barely qualifies
40:49
Speaker 1: as a close ucouner of the second kind. But I
40:51
Speaker 1: think at night, because the witnesses did feel heat coming
40:55
Speaker 1: from this object, I suspect it was scooping up electricity
40:59
Speaker 1: over them the electric lines. We have so many cases
41:02
Speaker 1: of this sort of thing that I think that might
41:05
Speaker 1: be what's going on here. This is, of course speculation,
41:08
Speaker 1: but turns up a lot all right. Now we move
41:13
Speaker 1: to another case which is so strange, very well investigated
41:18
Speaker 1: by jaylen Heinek himself, and involves multiple witnesses and not
41:23
Speaker 1: some really strange after effects to it or associated events.
41:28
Speaker 1: I should say, at any rate, I call this one
41:31
Speaker 1: struck by a beam of light from a UFO. This
41:35
Speaker 1: occurred on June seventeen, nineteen seventy seven, in Kotili Lake
41:39
Speaker 1: in Louisiana. And what a case this is, because not
41:42
Speaker 1: only is the event itself strange, but what happened afterwards.
41:48
Speaker 1: This next case is a doozy. Was around dusk on
41:51
Speaker 1: June seventeen, nineteen seventy seven, as five people Dale Schschneider,
41:58
Speaker 1: he's twenty six years old, and his two daughters, Gina
42:01
Speaker 1: aged fourteen and Chrissy, age eleven, and a couple who
42:05
Speaker 1: were good family friends, were packing up and preparing to
42:09
Speaker 1: go home after a camp out at the Cotille Lake
42:12
Speaker 1: Recreation Area in Louisiana. Dale and his two daughters were
42:17
Speaker 1: walking alone, carrying ice chests, towels, air mattresses, and other
42:22
Speaker 1: camping and fishing and swimming gear. Everyone was just talking
42:25
Speaker 1: and they had just about reached the road where Dale's
42:28
Speaker 1: pickup was parked. And this is when they all suddenly
42:31
Speaker 1: heard a very strange sound. And I'll just let Dale
42:34
Speaker 1: describe it in his own words. As he says, I
42:38
Speaker 1: became aware of an ultra low frequency. I heard it
42:42
Speaker 1: and felt it vibrate my sternum simultaneously. I looked up
42:47
Speaker 1: towards the sound or sensation as it were, and above
42:51
Speaker 1: the tree line was the outline of a huge craft
42:53
Speaker 1: or ufo. It hovered completely still and had points of
42:57
Speaker 1: lights surrounding its shape. It appeared to have parking lights on.
43:02
Speaker 1: It was huge. I will guess the size to be
43:05
Speaker 1: about seventy five feet across fifty feet high. It was
43:09
Speaker 1: disk shaped, but plates and sections were clearly visible at
43:14
Speaker 1: this very instant. The craft floated directly above us. Almost
43:18
Speaker 1: it moved immediately, yet gracefully, almost in a magnetic sense
43:23
Speaker 1: of control. Was much closer now and less hidden by
43:26
Speaker 1: the trees. The underside was almost horse soouge. The underside
43:32
Speaker 1: was almost horse shoe shaped and irregular, but anything below
43:37
Speaker 1: these points of light were too shadowed for details now.
43:42
Speaker 1: As Chrissy says regarding the sound, it was a sound
43:46
Speaker 1: you could feel more than here. I was sort of
43:48
Speaker 1: shocked into looking. It didn't remind me of anything, and
43:53
Speaker 1: as Jenny says, I couldn't believe I could be seeing this.
43:58
Speaker 1: I never saw anything like it. It was awesome in
44:02
Speaker 1: a biblical sort of way. So all of them stopped
44:05
Speaker 1: walking and talking. All of them looked up in absolute,
44:09
Speaker 1: open mouthed astonishment. And then strange went to incredibly weird
44:14
Speaker 1: and bizarre, because, as Dale says, before we could react,
44:20
Speaker 1: the middle of the craft started to glow. But I
44:23
Speaker 1: suspect this was an illusion of a floodlight, for I
44:26
Speaker 1: looked to my side and the children were brightly illuminated
44:29
Speaker 1: in their shock, mouths still open, holding the swimming gear.
44:34
Speaker 1: Before we could shield our eyes or turn away, there
44:37
Speaker 1: came from the same source several rays or beams of
44:41
Speaker 1: blue light. They were not diffused, but not unlike lasers
44:45
Speaker 1: or laser beams. They appeared to strike us at the
44:48
Speaker 1: solar plexus. It was an intense, silver, blue, thin beam,
44:54
Speaker 1: three to five of them centered on our bodies. We
44:57
Speaker 1: were immediately affected. I recall hearing crackling sounds in the
45:02
Speaker 1: air right around us, but not loud or threatening. We
45:06
Speaker 1: were trapped and what I guess was a force field,
45:09
Speaker 1: for we couldn't move hardly at all. In a few moments,
45:13
Speaker 1: our entire bodies shone in the eerie blue aura. We
45:19
Speaker 1: slowly forced our head down to see our arms glowing
45:23
Speaker 1: with electric blue light. Movement had become difficult, as in
45:28
Speaker 1: a dream, slow, heavy, so Chrissy remember this, remembers this,
45:33
Speaker 1: as she says, the blue lights were more focused on us,
45:37
Speaker 1: the white lights were broader, and, as Gina says, when
45:42
Speaker 1: it shone down on us like a force field. We
45:46
Speaker 1: just had to stand there and look at it. Dale says,
45:50
Speaker 1: I had never been subject to such a force field
45:53
Speaker 1: or that type of energy. It kind of fogged my
45:56
Speaker 1: head up. After what seemed to be about ten seconds,
45:59
Speaker 1: all all the lights vanished instantly, along with the force field.
46:04
Speaker 1: The craft began to glide away over the treetops. So
46:08
Speaker 1: at this point the craft moved off from the direction
46:10
Speaker 1: that it had come from, with these weird headlights still on.
46:14
Speaker 1: The loud humming sound faded as this object moved farther away.
46:19
Speaker 1: The children immediately began to frantically jump up and down, shouting,
46:23
Speaker 1: did you see that flying saucer? Did you see those
46:26
Speaker 1: lights coming down? So Dale was absolutely stunned by all
46:30
Speaker 1: of this. He tried to calm them down, find a
46:33
Speaker 1: rational explanation, but there was none, and the children were
46:37
Speaker 1: absolutely convinced that they had seen a flying saucer, and
46:42
Speaker 1: Dale slowly came to the same conclusion because there was
46:45
Speaker 1: no other explanation. Meanwhile, Gina and Chrissy ran back to
46:49
Speaker 1: the cabin to inform their older sister who was in
46:52
Speaker 1: the cabin, and they shouted out to her, You'll never
46:55
Speaker 1: believe us, but and their sister interrupted and replied, oh, yes,
46:59
Speaker 1: I will. I heard you outside. So they finished packing
47:04
Speaker 1: up and began the drive home, just the three of them,
47:07
Speaker 1: Dale and his two daughters. And this is when events
47:10
Speaker 1: became even more strange, because one hour later, as they
47:15
Speaker 1: drove home, a man in another car, a drunk driver,
47:19
Speaker 1: ran two stop signs and slam very hard into Dale's
47:23
Speaker 1: pickup truck, and in fact the truck was pretty much totled.
47:28
Speaker 1: Dale broke his finger, Gina broke her leg. By coincidence
47:32
Speaker 1: or synchronicity, Chrissy, who normally would sit in the window seat,
47:38
Speaker 1: had been so frightened by the encounter that she insisted
47:41
Speaker 1: sitting in the middle. In the accident, the passenger door
47:46
Speaker 1: was blown open, and everyone thought that had Chrissie been
47:50
Speaker 1: sitting there, she probably would have been ejected from the
47:53
Speaker 1: car and killed. Gina, who was much taller, did have
47:57
Speaker 1: her leg forced under the dashboard and it was severely mangled.
48:01
Speaker 1: In fact, she was unconscious for twenty four hours, spent
48:04
Speaker 1: two weeks in the hospital, and wore a cast for
48:07
Speaker 1: the entire summer. So researchers wonder, and I quote it
48:12
Speaker 1: is little wonder that they and especially their parents, believe
48:16
Speaker 1: that the UFO encounter may have prevented the death of
48:20
Speaker 1: at least one of them. So they believe that this
48:24
Speaker 1: was not a coincidence, and of the two events, the
48:27
Speaker 1: car accident and the encounter, the UFO 'connor was far
48:31
Speaker 1: more shocking, and Dale's not sure if this was coincidence
48:35
Speaker 1: or not that they were meant to see it, But
48:37
Speaker 1: like his daughters, he believes that he did encounter an
48:42
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial craft. As he says, I too, am convinced, and
48:48
Speaker 1: to this day I cannot recall the memory without heavy moodiness,
48:52
Speaker 1: sometimes getting a little shook up. I am a rational person,
48:57
Speaker 1: but my feet haven't been on the ground since that night.
49:00
Speaker 1: My life has not been the same since that night.
49:04
Speaker 1: I was never frightened until after it was over. Underneath
49:07
Speaker 1: I was terrified. I thought we were going to die.
49:10
Speaker 1: It was the most frightening and interesting thing I've ever seen.
49:14
Speaker 1: It's an incredible feeling to see something like that. You
49:17
Speaker 1: can sense the intelligence, the culture. Shock, right at first
49:22
Speaker 1: is the most evident thing. Your value has changed. You
49:26
Speaker 1: realize that there's someone out there with incredible technology. It's
49:31
Speaker 1: got to change you. It just really changes your outlook.
49:35
Speaker 1: It was the most awesome and unexplainable experience I've ever had.
49:39
Speaker 1: The entire incident was a shock and a bewilderment. So
49:44
Speaker 1: when researchers asked what Jenna would say if someone didn't
49:48
Speaker 1: believe her or she replied, there's nothing I could say.
49:52
Speaker 1: I know what I saw. I can't make you think
49:55
Speaker 1: I did. You'd have to see it yourself now. When
49:59
Speaker 1: Chrissy at was asked what the most memorable thing was
50:02
Speaker 1: about the experience, she said the blue light. I just
50:07
Speaker 1: remember the light and that it was a real big
50:10
Speaker 1: So Dale, unable to forget this experience, two months later,
50:13
Speaker 1: sought help and was put in touch with j Allen Heinek.
50:18
Speaker 1: In fact, he even considered going under hypnosis to better
50:21
Speaker 1: understand what happened to him and why, because he says,
50:25
Speaker 1: I know there's something very unfinished about it. I just
50:29
Speaker 1: want to know why. Now. He doesn't think it was
50:33
Speaker 1: a negative experience. In fact, he says he would like
50:35
Speaker 1: to meet extraterrestrials face to face, and all the witnesses
50:39
Speaker 1: want to see the UFO again. As it turns out,
50:43
Speaker 1: this wasn't Dale's first encounter. Seven years earlier, in nineteen seventy,
50:48
Speaker 1: he and some high school friends had seen a small
50:51
Speaker 1: craft hovering only forty feet overhead, sending down a cylindrical
50:56
Speaker 1: shaft of light. They drove near it, at which it
51:00
Speaker 1: darted away, and in fact his friends were so frightened
51:04
Speaker 1: they also fled the scene. How bizarre is that? I
51:07
Speaker 1: do wonder if there's any connection with this auto accident
51:12
Speaker 1: and the siting itself. The witnesses certainly seem to think so,
51:16
Speaker 1: and they take this as a very benevolent encounter, even
51:19
Speaker 1: though it did affect them profoundly and was quite scary.
51:24
Speaker 1: Such an interesting case, There's always another. Here's one that
51:28
Speaker 1: is probably one of the most bizarre I've ever heard of,
51:32
Speaker 1: And this might only peripherally be involved with UFOs or ets,
51:37
Speaker 1: but there doesn't seem to be any other explanation. I
51:40
Speaker 1: call this one alien footprints. This occurred on September fourth,
51:45
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine in roeue Claw, Poland, and it is
51:50
Speaker 1: truly bizarre, as you'll see. I really can't say much
51:53
Speaker 1: more without giving it away, so let's just get to
51:57
Speaker 1: the case. Researcher Pyotr is the investigator for this incredibly
52:03
Speaker 1: strange case, complete mystery. He wrote about it in his
52:08
Speaker 1: book UFOs over Poland and it appears to involve the
52:12
Speaker 1: intrusion of some small humanoid who left footprints inside the
52:16
Speaker 1: witness's house. His name is Jersey Wazaluski. He had an
52:22
Speaker 1: apartment located at fifty three nine Kruzwicka Street in roe Claw, Poland,
52:29
Speaker 1: and in fact, his flat is on the fourth floor
52:31
Speaker 1: of this building, as you can see here. On September fourth,
52:35
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, he left his flat and he had
52:39
Speaker 1: left the kitchen window open, and when he returned, he
52:44
Speaker 1: found that there were seventeen strange marks but looked like
52:47
Speaker 1: footprints on the blue vinyl floor tiles of his kitchen
52:51
Speaker 1: and hallway. Each mark was about thirteen millimeters in diameter,
52:57
Speaker 1: roughly oval in shape and separated by forty centimeters and
53:02
Speaker 1: in fact, as Pew Tur writes, it looked as if
53:05
Speaker 1: someone had marched through the kitchen and hall and then returned,
53:09
Speaker 1: leaving in the same direction from which they entered, which
53:12
Speaker 1: presumably was through the open window in the kitchen where
53:16
Speaker 1: the tracks led. But the thing is, this is the
53:19
Speaker 1: fourth floor, so whoever came in there would have to
53:21
Speaker 1: have either gotten there from street level or floated down
53:25
Speaker 1: into it. Now, the floor was made of polyvinyl chloride tiles,
53:32
Speaker 1: and researcher Pyotur had these tiles analyzed at Rouquaw University
53:38
Speaker 1: and the results were nothing less than astonishing. The analysis
53:42
Speaker 1: of these tiles showed that they had not been melted
53:45
Speaker 1: by a high heat, as was previously assumed, but instead
53:50
Speaker 1: were affected by some kind of quote, highly concentrated magnetic field.
53:56
Speaker 1: They did find traces of ozone, the internal structures of
54:00
Speaker 1: the tile were unchanged, meaning there were no crushing marks,
54:03
Speaker 1: no deformations or damage, and there were no traces of
54:07
Speaker 1: burns found either. It was all just this weird magnetic
54:11
Speaker 1: field that had affected them somehow. The quote footprints were
54:16
Speaker 1: sort of whitish in color. The area around them was
54:19
Speaker 1: also slightly discolored, but there was no explanation. In other words,
54:25
Speaker 1: it couldn't have been ball lightning. It definitely wasn't any
54:28
Speaker 1: corrosive agent or accelerant, it wasn't a heavy weight. In fact,
54:33
Speaker 1: there was no logical explanation. It appeared exactly as if
54:37
Speaker 1: something had flown in through the open fourth story window,
54:41
Speaker 1: walked around the kitchen, into the hallway, back to the window,
54:45
Speaker 1: and flew off. But with no direct eyewitnesses, the mystery
54:49
Speaker 1: of this remains unsolved. Interestingly, the witness, Jersey, did get
54:55
Speaker 1: a number of offers from quote collectors who wanted to
54:58
Speaker 1: buy these weird affected floor tiles. So there you go.
55:03
Speaker 1: How weird is that? Looks like some et walked into
55:07
Speaker 1: this guy's kitchen, floated down from above he's on the
55:10
Speaker 1: fourth floor, burned his pile and went on its merry way.
55:16
Speaker 1: I like this case because these landing traces, if you will,
55:20
Speaker 1: these et footprints are almost impossible to fake. So what
55:24
Speaker 1: happened there nobody knows, But man, oh man, is that bizarre?
55:30
Speaker 1: Now he moved to an equally bizarre case, really well verified.
55:35
Speaker 1: I find this one quite interesting because there are some
55:38
Speaker 1: really interesting physical effects and multiple witnesses who are independent
55:43
Speaker 1: of each other. I call this one I was trying
55:47
Speaker 1: hard to hold onto reality. That is, of course, a
55:51
Speaker 1: direct quote from the witness, who's a highly qualified, very
55:54
Speaker 1: well educated witness, always adds level of credibility to a
55:59
Speaker 1: person's account. This one occurred on March eighth, nineteen eighty
56:03
Speaker 1: two in Bethel, Connecticut, and boy, it's a very strange UFO,
56:10
Speaker 1: very strange effects. As we will say. J. Allen Heinich
56:14
Speaker 1: is the main researcher for this case. He interviewed the
56:17
Speaker 1: witness directly. He's anonymous, we'll call him John. He was
56:21
Speaker 1: an army officer in Vietnam who worked as an aircraft observer.
56:26
Speaker 1: It was his duty to call in ground and air
56:28
Speaker 1: strikes and identify aircraft what she could do sometimes by
56:33
Speaker 1: sound alone. Now, at the time of his encounter, he
56:36
Speaker 1: was employed as a professional photographer working for a private
56:40
Speaker 1: company engaged in highly classified military projects, and in fact,
56:45
Speaker 1: John held a top secret clearance. As J. Allen Heine
56:49
Speaker 1: says about this case, this case rates as one of
56:53
Speaker 1: the most bizarre UFO cases I have ever ever come across.
56:58
Speaker 1: It fits no recognized pattern, yet was independently witnessed by
57:03
Speaker 1: two highly technical, trained people separated by more than a mile.
57:08
Speaker 1: So Johns encounter began when he was at home in
57:11
Speaker 1: his workshop repairing a camera with eight fifteen pm again
57:16
Speaker 1: on March eighth, nineteen eighty two, and I'll just let
57:19
Speaker 1: John describe what happened, as he says, I was seated
57:23
Speaker 1: at my workbench repairing a camera when the tools in
57:26
Speaker 1: my hands started to shake, and I became aware of
57:29
Speaker 1: a low, rumbling sound which intensified in the space of
57:33
Speaker 1: approximately ten seconds to the point where I could no
57:37
Speaker 1: longer hold the tools in my hands because of the vibration.
57:41
Speaker 1: At that point, the whole house was shaking, and my
57:45
Speaker 1: first thought was that we were having an earthquake. Later,
57:49
Speaker 1: we found that the vibration of the house had been
57:51
Speaker 1: so great that our washing machine and a floor cabinet
57:56
Speaker 1: had moved two to three inches from the wall, and
57:59
Speaker 1: the flooring had separated from the wall in the amount
58:02
Speaker 1: of a half inch at one place for a distance
58:05
Speaker 1: of two feet. At the point when the whole house
58:08
Speaker 1: was shaking, I went into the hallway and met my
58:11
Speaker 1: wife coming out of the bedroom. We both quickly went outside,
58:15
Speaker 1: as the sound now seemed to be coming from the
58:18
Speaker 1: definite direction and seemed to be getting closer, and it
58:22
Speaker 1: was because now on the porch, John, with a pair
58:25
Speaker 1: of binoculars in his hand, and his wife both saw
58:29
Speaker 1: this massive craft. He estimates it was about seventy five
58:33
Speaker 1: feet high, only one hundred feet away, moving at about
58:38
Speaker 1: eighty knots. He said. The object itself was quite dark,
58:41
Speaker 1: just a black mass with about forty to fifty small
58:45
Speaker 1: red lights on either side. He estimates it was about
58:49
Speaker 1: one hundred feet long seventy five feet wide. Now, they
58:53
Speaker 1: do have two dogs, and they do live right next
58:55
Speaker 1: to an airport, and when low flying flanes would come by,
58:59
Speaker 1: the dogs would often come out and bark at them.
59:02
Speaker 1: But when this object showed up, the dogs did something
59:05
Speaker 1: very unusual, as John says, they behaved as never before.
59:11
Speaker 1: They were extremely frightened and hid under the bed, something
59:14
Speaker 1: they never do. The dogs were petrified, so as they
59:18
Speaker 1: stared at this neither John nor his wife could believe
59:21
Speaker 1: their eyes. They could not understand what they were looking at.
59:25
Speaker 1: As John says, what we saw doesn't fit into anything
59:29
Speaker 1: I've ever seen before in my whole life. I thought
59:33
Speaker 1: it might be an aircraft crashing, but dismissed this thought
59:37
Speaker 1: almost immediately as it remained at a constant high and
59:41
Speaker 1: was moving too slowly, well below the stall speed of
59:44
Speaker 1: any aircraft I know, and its lights looked like no
59:48
Speaker 1: aircraft configuration I had ever seen, so he was most
59:52
Speaker 1: impressed by its slow speed and the low but very
59:56
Speaker 1: loud rumbling sound also odd was but even though there
1:00:00
Speaker 1: was a near full noon, the structure between the lights
1:00:04
Speaker 1: was quote absolutely black, as he says, this thing was
1:00:09
Speaker 1: just completely black. In fact, it looked to him almost
1:00:12
Speaker 1: like it was absorbing the light around it, with almost
1:00:14
Speaker 1: no reflection on it whatsoever. Both he and his wife
1:00:19
Speaker 1: did have the impression of immense size, and the weird
1:00:22
Speaker 1: rumbling sound reminded them of the movie Close Encounters and
1:00:26
Speaker 1: the mother Shit. John says, it was nothing like anything
1:00:30
Speaker 1: I know about. It was very close. There was no
1:00:33
Speaker 1: exhaust or smell. It was like being in a rowboat
1:00:36
Speaker 1: out in the ocean and having a giant oil tanker
1:00:40
Speaker 1: come slowly by. You really get the feeling of immensity.
1:00:45
Speaker 1: So this object moved off, and following the sightings as understandable,
1:00:50
Speaker 1: John was deeply shaken up, as he says, I was
1:00:54
Speaker 1: trying hard to hold onto reality. So in a search
1:00:58
Speaker 1: for answers to making some phone calls, he called the
1:01:02
Speaker 1: local and state police, who told him that they were
1:01:04
Speaker 1: quote swamped with calls from all kinds of people reporting UFOs. Now,
1:01:10
Speaker 1: having technical knowledge of aircraft and knowing the lingo, he
1:01:14
Speaker 1: phoned the local airport and the local Naval air station
1:01:18
Speaker 1: in Norfolk, Virginia, also the Sikorsky Air Service at Norfolk
1:01:23
Speaker 1: and Westover Air Force Base. Now, the airports did say
1:01:27
Speaker 1: that they had also received calls, but the other agencies
1:01:30
Speaker 1: provided no useful information. The air traffic controller at Oxbury
1:01:35
Speaker 1: Airport so that they had actually seen it and that
1:01:38
Speaker 1: the quote thing had come right over one of their
1:01:42
Speaker 1: own house. This is located about two miles from John's house,
1:01:46
Speaker 1: and this guy said that the vibration from this object
1:01:49
Speaker 1: had made a coffee cup literally walk across the table
1:01:52
Speaker 1: and fall to the floor. So the next day John
1:01:56
Speaker 1: spoke with a fellow Air Force Reserve officer who was
1:01:59
Speaker 1: driving home in this area and he also saw the
1:02:02
Speaker 1: same object. His friend is in fact a program manager
1:02:06
Speaker 1: who works on camera systems, electronic countermeasures, laser designators and
1:02:12
Speaker 1: more so a very intelligent guy, and he was driving
1:02:15
Speaker 1: along this country road when this object, he says, came
1:02:19
Speaker 1: about five hundred feet over his car, causing a very
1:02:23
Speaker 1: heavy vibration. Who was moving very slowly, he said, almost hovering.
1:02:28
Speaker 1: He briefly wondered if this could be a formation of helicopters,
1:02:32
Speaker 1: but when he saw this black mass and the red
1:02:34
Speaker 1: lights at the side, he described it exactly the same way.
1:02:37
Speaker 1: He realized it wasn't anything he knew about. It was
1:02:41
Speaker 1: something completely out of the realm of his experience. As
1:02:44
Speaker 1: he says, it bothered me that I couldn't identify them,
1:02:48
Speaker 1: no structure, no silhouette. So Jay al and Heinich was
1:02:53
Speaker 1: very impressed by this case, and as he says, the
1:02:56
Speaker 1: case is so bizarre that one can hope that some
1:02:59
Speaker 1: of our readers and suggest a logical explanation. The case
1:03:03
Speaker 1: is a complete maverick. Indeed, when Bob Gribble of the
1:03:07
Speaker 1: UFO Reporting Center in Seattle notified the center QFOS about it,
1:03:13
Speaker 1: I was on the verge of not following it up
1:03:15
Speaker 1: at all, but I finally decided to waste one phone
1:03:18
Speaker 1: call on it. An amazing encounter by any definition, I mean,
1:03:24
Speaker 1: Jay Allen Heinich was absolutely persuaded it did take place.
1:03:28
Speaker 1: There apparently were quite a few witnesses. I suspect there's
1:03:32
Speaker 1: a lot more than the ones we know about, because again,
1:03:36
Speaker 1: people rarely report their encounter in any official capacity, and
1:03:41
Speaker 1: this guy did because he was educated with aircraft and
1:03:46
Speaker 1: he wanted to know what was going on. It wouldn't
1:03:50
Speaker 1: surprise me a bit if there's a whole line of
1:03:52
Speaker 1: people who saw this object but didn't tell anybody. Now,
1:03:58
Speaker 1: let's move to another very very strange case, which I
1:04:01
Speaker 1: call high strangeness in Slosina. This occurred on December twenty seven,
1:04:06
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, in Slosina, Poland. And yeah, this is a
1:04:12
Speaker 1: very unusual case. Again a simple sighting, but technically a
1:04:17
Speaker 1: close encounter of the second kind. The effects that the
1:04:21
Speaker 1: witnesses described in this case are really quite unusual. It's
1:04:25
Speaker 1: why I wanted to include this case. It's really quite
1:04:29
Speaker 1: compelling and I think you'll find it really fascinating. This
1:04:33
Speaker 1: final very unusual close in corner of the second kind
1:04:37
Speaker 1: comes from researcher Iraq Miasga. This one involves two witnesses. Anna,
1:04:43
Speaker 1: aged sixty four and her daughter, Ua, age twenty two,
1:04:48
Speaker 1: was ten forty two pm on December twenty seven, twenty thirteen,
1:04:52
Speaker 1: and YOUA was turning off the Christmas tree lights in
1:04:56
Speaker 1: their home, again located in Slowsina, Poland. This is when
1:05:00
Speaker 1: a light outside the window caught her eye, and looking outside,
1:05:04
Speaker 1: she saw a dome shaped craft covered with bright orange
1:05:08
Speaker 1: lights coming out from behind a nearby house. Was slightly
1:05:12
Speaker 1: larger than a full moon. She said, it had short
1:05:15
Speaker 1: and long rays of light coming off the surface, weird
1:05:19
Speaker 1: rays of light. The object itself pulsated with light, was
1:05:23
Speaker 1: pretty close, about one hundred and fifty meters away four
1:05:26
Speaker 1: hundred to five hundred feet, no higher than ten meters
1:05:30
Speaker 1: above the ground, about thirty feet, so she called out
1:05:33
Speaker 1: for her mother. They both saw it. They estimated the
1:05:36
Speaker 1: size of this object was about seven to nine feet,
1:05:40
Speaker 1: no larger than a small passenger car. It made no
1:05:43
Speaker 1: sound that they could hear, so the mother, Anna joined
1:05:47
Speaker 1: her daughter and actually used a pair of binoculars to
1:05:50
Speaker 1: look at this object. She could see a red light
1:05:53
Speaker 1: on the right side and a green light on the left.
1:05:56
Speaker 1: Said it was hovering right above the high voltage electric lines.
1:06:00
Speaker 1: But weirdly, the rays of light coming out of this
1:06:02
Speaker 1: object were not normal. Some were short, some were long
1:06:07
Speaker 1: about two meters. But what was so weird is that
1:06:10
Speaker 1: they kind of cut off after reaching a length of
1:06:13
Speaker 1: about two meters, and while the object itself was quite bright,
1:06:17
Speaker 1: it was not blinding. In fact, they said it was
1:06:20
Speaker 1: rather quote pleasant to the eye. It did occasionally tilt,
1:06:24
Speaker 1: giving them a good view of the underside. This is
1:06:27
Speaker 1: not a normal plane or aircraft or helicopter, as you
1:06:32
Speaker 1: can see from their drawings. But there were some very
1:06:36
Speaker 1: high strangeness details. One was that the witnesses were listening
1:06:40
Speaker 1: to the radio at the time of the encounter, but
1:06:43
Speaker 1: the very moment this object came into view, the entire
1:06:47
Speaker 1: environment around them became enveloped in complete silence. The radio
1:06:51
Speaker 1: didn't fuzz up or malfunction or turn off, they could
1:06:55
Speaker 1: just no longer hear it. Also weird or these strange
1:07:01
Speaker 1: black spots that were swirling around the object. It looked
1:07:04
Speaker 1: almost to them, like it was absorbing the light around it,
1:07:09
Speaker 1: and in fact, as it approached a street light, the
1:07:13
Speaker 1: beam from the street light seemed to get pulled away
1:07:17
Speaker 1: from the light itself. I mean, the light didn't go out,
1:07:20
Speaker 1: it stayed on, but the beam itself kind of disappeared
1:07:24
Speaker 1: or was somehow suppressed. In fact, even the outlines of
1:07:28
Speaker 1: the nearby houses next to this object became pulled into
1:07:31
Speaker 1: this weird darkness. It looked to the witnesses almost as
1:07:35
Speaker 1: if the object was exerting some sort of energy field
1:07:38
Speaker 1: around it that was pulling light towards it. And a
1:07:42
Speaker 1: third element of high strangeness was that both witnesses felt
1:07:46
Speaker 1: that time almost seemed to come to a stop. They
1:07:49
Speaker 1: watched this object, they thought, for about ten to fifteen
1:07:53
Speaker 1: minutes as it moved around, But when the object moved off,
1:07:57
Speaker 1: they were shocked to see that only five minutes had passed.
1:08:00
Speaker 1: So that was weird. And as soon as this object
1:08:03
Speaker 1: was out of view, the noise of the radio immediately
1:08:06
Speaker 1: filled the house. So they were really puzzled by that,
1:08:10
Speaker 1: And in fact, the daughter was so filled with fear
1:08:14
Speaker 1: that she was unable to get any sleep that night.
1:08:17
Speaker 1: She had previously had two encounters, and after the first one,
1:08:21
Speaker 1: had been having regular dreams about UFOs. This one really
1:08:25
Speaker 1: scared them for some reason, and at this point neither
1:08:28
Speaker 1: of them wanted to talk about UFOs anymore or have
1:08:31
Speaker 1: any other encounters. So there you go, another amazing high
1:08:36
Speaker 1: strangeness case. I like that one because it is a
1:08:40
Speaker 1: good example of the so called OZ factor, with this
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Speaker 1: unnatural silence that pervades the environment during an encounter, but
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Speaker 1: it's also got incredibly strange effects involving light around this
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Speaker 1: craft and also of course the weird sense of timelessness
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Speaker 1: that the witnesses report. This is something we do here
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Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, so yeah, it definitely is
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Speaker 1: an important case, I think. So that's it for today.
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Speaker 1: Eight cases from all over the world, which you would
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Speaker 1: probably categorize as close encounters of the second kind because
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Speaker 1: they do infect the environment in some way. Yeah, no humanoids,
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Speaker 1: but I think you'll agree those cases were very interesting
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Speaker 1: and certainly add to our knowledge of what's going on here.
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Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to do this episode. I think
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Speaker 1: these cases show just how incredibly strange a UFO encounter
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Speaker 1: can be. So that's it for today. Once again, thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for watching. I truly appreciate it, and
1:09:42
Speaker 1: until next time, keep asking those hard questions because it's
1:09:45
Speaker 1: up to you to do it. Don't know if our
1:09:47
Speaker 1: governments are ever going to willingly disclose. It's up to
1:09:51
Speaker 1: all of us to make sure that we know all
1:09:54
Speaker 1: we can about this subject. So yeah, keep searching for
1:09:58
Speaker 1: the truth, and most important of keep having fun. I
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Speaker 1: will see you next Friday, Stay safe, bye for now.