Latest / The Newsletter Podcast with Fexingo: Substack, Beehiiv, and Email Newsletter Business / How One Newsletter Built a Community Around Its Paywall
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- Lucas: So there's a moment in every newsletter writer's life when they realize the real product isn't the emails—it's the people reading them. Luna: You mean like when the comments section becomes the main event? Lucas: Exactly. And I want to talk about a really concrete example of that: The Hustle's Trends community. For folks who don't know, The Hustle is a business newsletter that built a massive audience, and a few years back they spun up Trends, a subscription tier that included a Slack community. Now, the newsletter itself was always sharp, but the community is what made people stay. Luna: I've heard about that—a lot of subscribers said they joined just for the Slack. Did it actually help with retention? Lucas: That's the thing. They reported that community members were significantly less likely to cancel. And it makes sense when you think about the psychology. Once you're in a Slack with a few thousand ambitious professionals, you've got a network, a support group, a place to ask dumb questions without judgment. That's a lot harder to walk away from than a weekly email digest. Luna: So it's about switching costs. The email alone is easy to cancel; the community is sticky. Lucas: Right. And the key is that they structured the community around the newsletter's topic—business trends, market analysis, career moves. So it wasn't just a generic networking group; it was directly tied to the content people were already reading. Luna: And they had member-only events too, right? I remember seeing something about virtual meetups with founders. Lucas: Yeah, they hosted these intimate webinars and AMAs with entrepreneurs and investors. Those became a major draw. You're not just paying for information; you're paying for access to people who are a few steps ahead in your field. Luna: I love that. It's like the paywall becomes a velvet rope instead of a wall. Lucas: That's a perfect way to put it. And speaking of supporting the work that goes into that kind of experience—it's exactly why we keep this show ad-free. We believe the content and the community around it should be the product, not the ads. If you want to support that choice, the link is buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure, just knowing it helps keeps this going. Luna: And it does, honestly. It lets us focus on the ideas without worrying about sponsors. Anyway, back to the velvet rope. Lucas: So what's interesting to me is how they designed the paywall itself. It wasn't a hard gate. They gave away a ton of free content, and the paid tier was framed as 'go deeper and connect.' That's a different pitch than 'pay or you lose access.' Luna: So it's more of an invitation than a threat. How does that change the conversion math? Lucas: Well, when you frame it as access to a community, people see it as joining a club rather than buying a product. And clubs have their own social dynamics—there's a sense of belonging that kicks in before you even pay. You hear about the Slack, you lurk in the free content, you feel like you're almost part of it. The paywall just makes it official. Luna: That's the 'almost' psychology. And you mentioned the feedback loop—how did they use the community to shape the actual newsletter? Lucas: They paid attention. They had channels for specific topics, and they'd see what got the most discussion. Then they'd spotlight those themes in the weekly email. It was a virtuous circle: community informs content, content brings more people to the community. Luna: So the community becomes a focus group, but also a loyalty engine. Have you seen smaller newsletters pull this off without a big team? Lucas: Absolutely. I've seen solo writers run a simple Discord or even a group chat on Telegram with a couple hundred paid members. It doesn't have to be a fancy platform. The key is consistency—showing up, asking questions, and making people feel heard. One writer I know does a monthly live Q&A, and that's the only community feature, but it's enough to keep people renewing. Luna: So what's the one metric you'd tell a newsletter writer to watch if they're adding a community? Lucas: Churn rate, specifically the churn of community members versus non-members. If you can see a clear gap, you know the community is doing its job. But I'd also watch engagement—like how many people are active in the Slack each week. If you've got a community that's dead, it's worse than having no community at all, because it signals that the promise was hollow. Luna: So a quiet community can hurt you more than help you. That's a good warning. Lucas: Right. It's not enough to just open a Slack channel and hope for the best. You need to seed discussions, welcome newcomers, and create rituals—like a weekly thread or a regular AMA. The Hustle did that really well, but they had a team. For solo writers, the bar is lower, but the effort still has to be real. Luna: And what about pricing? How should you price a community tier compared to a content-only tier? Lucas: There's no magic formula, but I've seen people price it at two to three times the newsletter-only rate, sometimes more. The logic is that community is higher value because it includes access to people, not just information. You're essentially selling a networking product, and that has a different price sensitivity. Luna: So you're not just charging for the content, you're charging for the relationships. That's a premium position. Lucas: Exactly. And the beauty is, the community doesn't scale linearly—it actually gets better as it grows, to a point. So you can justify raising the price as the community becomes more vibrant. It's a network effect, which is rare in the newsletter space. Luna: But don't you run the risk of the community becoming too big and losing that intimacy? Lucas: That's a real risk. The Hustle eventually had to create sub-channels for specific industries to keep conversations manageable. For smaller newsletters, I'd suggest a cap on membership or a waitlist to keep things cozy. You want to maintain that feeling of being part of an inner circle. Luna: So there's a sweet spot between too small to be valuable and too big to be personal. How do you find it? Lucas: You experiment. Start with a small group, see how the conversation flows, and then gradually open up. Keep an eye on how many people are actually posting, not just lurking. If you have a thousand members but only fifty are active, that's not a community—it's a billboard. Luna: Yeah, that makes sense. I've been in Slack groups where it feels like a ghost town, and it's a turnoff. Lucas: Exactly. And that's why you need to design the community around a shared goal or identity. The Hustle's Trends community worked because it was for ambitious professionals who wanted to stay ahead. That shared ambition created a common language and a reason to engage. Luna: So what would you say is the first step for a newsletter writer who's thinking about adding a community? Lucas: Start by asking your most engaged readers what they'd want from a community. Run a survey or just reply to some emails. You might be surprised—maybe they want a job board, maybe they want mentoring, maybe they just want a place to share wins and struggles. Then design the community around that specific need. Luna: So it's about listening first, not just launching a channel. That feels like a solid approach. Lucas: Yeah, and the same principle applies to the paywall. You want to make sure the community is framed as the reward, not the lock. It's a mindset shift, but it can make all the difference in how people perceive the value of your paid tier. Luna: I think our listeners will get a lot from that. It's a strategy that can work for any niche, as long as you put the people first. Lucas: And that's the real takeaway. The newsletter gets people in the door; the community keeps them in the room. If you can master that, you're not just building a list—you're building a tribe.