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- 0:00Coming to you live from deep within a snowy, exhaustingly snowy, radioactive wasteland.
- 0:07We are the survivors of the alt right Apocalypse, the few, the
- 0:11brave, the bitchy, once more wading into battle against the lobster zombie hordes
- 0:17with rant Zerker number one eighty eight. We all know what we're doing is
- 0:24wrong and stupid. I'm your host, Alison, and with me is Brian
- 0:30and Karen. All right and barking in the background. I'm sorry, Jojo.
- 0:37Lindsay stayed home today. She's feeling really, really sick. She had
- 0:40a terrible migraine and since she's been bedridden and and Jojo all day. And
- 0:45I think she's waking up now. And so Jojo is excited. Oh oh
- 0:50yeah, well he's just happy that she did not stay like dead. I
- 0:57guess I was. I was muted for a second there because Kevin was out
- 1:04of sight and quiet, and that's never never good. Something's happening. What's
- 1:11the She's doing something bad? So I had to go look for her.
- 1:17Yeah, okay, Well my dog is out in the front playing frisbee with
- 1:22my husband, so we're sort of sorted. Uh so, well, let's
- 1:26begin. I'll start by saying, if you want to, you want to
- 1:30help us out to make sure that we can continue to these shows. We
- 1:32were once again doing our monthly Oh speak of the Devil. The dog just
- 1:34came in the monthly fundraiser at feedbadger dot com slash support. Although I don't
- 1:41think Scipio really barks a heck of a lot, he hasn't. He seems
- 1:46to have quieted down quite a bit as he gets older. Kevin will Kevin
- 1:49will make up for the lack. Although although Scipio does like to sing the
- 1:57song of the people, that means a roller, not a howler like a
- 2:05whale, like the sounds of whale song. It's not how how was like
- 2:13oh yeah, this is more like a grown you know, like a groan
- 2:17to uh oh, like like Borat does. He makes noises like Nibbler,
- 2:23the Nibblonian from Futurama, and he looks a lot like nibble Nibbler. We
- 2:29could like stick a diaper and a cape on him and like get him like
- 2:32a little uh little third eye and take him out trick or treating. That
- 2:38sounds like a That sounds like an exceptionally good use of your time. I'm
- 2:42like, well, actually, this article is interesting because it's published in the
- 2:46Guardian. I think that the Guardian has sort of taken a turn for the
- 2:50worst. If this was what was published twelve years ago. It was twelve
- 2:52years ago that this was published. Yeah, so everybody knows that feminism is
- 2:58bullshit, Let's be honest. The only people who don't are the ones who
- 3:01aren't particularly on the ball. Well, the normies that don't really like look
- 3:07into it much. Yeah, they don't look into it much. They just
- 3:09sort of take it for granted that these people are telling the truth when they
- 3:14talk about history and so. But everybody else, the feminists, And I've
- 3:19asserted this a lot for a long time because I see that when feminists argue,
- 3:23they always say, yeah, you're right, but let me do a
- 3:27little dance of sophistry so we can all pretend you're not. Have you noticed
- 3:31that you're right? You're right? Yeah, this it's absolutely freaking right.
- 3:36But you know we rape culture, sexist jokes, misogyny, cha cha cha
- 3:44cha cha cha, patriarchy, male privileged cha cha cha cha cha cha.
- 3:49Therefore you know I'm right. Okay, argumented to being wrong, Okay.
- 3:55Tom Martin is the he used to go around on camera and ask ask women
- 4:11in college about their feminist thoughts. You must remember him vaguely? Did he
- 4:18about suffrage? Women's suffrage? Well, no, I don't know the specific
- 4:25questions. I just recognized the name and I was like, oh, that's
- 4:28so familiar, and then I started googling and yeah, no, I recognize
- 4:32his face. He's a very clean cut kind of guy who would go around
- 4:39on camera asking, you know, like, okay, so what do you
- 4:42think about the patriarchy you know, or whatever? And oh, it's everywhere.
- 4:46I didn't even realize it until I took gender studies and he runs sexismbusters
- 4:54dot Org at the London School of Economic makes something like that. Yeah,
- 5:02so, which is just I think that the London School of Economics. I
- 5:10think that's where the women who came up with preference theory comes from. Mike
- 5:19Buchanan's always citing her work on Basically what she found was, after analyzing all
- 5:28the data, is that as an occupation or a field becomes increasingly populated with
- 5:33women, it loses status and monetary value right remuneration, because they don't consider
- 5:43economic work like work force participation, to be their primary priority. So as
- 5:58women become as more or women become doctors, right, they participate less in
- 6:03terms of hours, they participate less in terms of specialization, they participate less
- 6:10in terms of labor unions and collective bargaining and all of those things. Right,
- 6:16And money isn't their first priority, and the prestige of the field isn't
- 6:20necessarily the first priority. Right, So cases for a lot of women.
- 6:27So they'll they'll attempt to take these fields, make them more socially prestigious at
- 6:31the same socially prestigious, yes, but not necessarily financially prestigious. And so
- 6:38what you're or they may not participate at all, they'll get an empty and
- 6:42then just won't exploit it. They won't actually do a job as a doctor.
- 6:46What I've also noticed is that they changed the culture, yeah, the
- 6:49workplace. So it goes from being a meritocracy to more nepotistic, clique ish,
- 6:57tribalistic, and more focused on like atmosphere tone. Yeah, oh yeah,
- 7:08that the office maintain a certain tone. Well, this is this is
- 7:11the problem that you know, I keep seeing when I hear like women who
- 7:15complain about, you know, stem fields being unwelcoming to them, you know,
- 7:19like, uh, people, the men in the stem fields don't treat
- 7:24them right, And I'm like, yeah, because they're all fucking autists,
- 7:27right, and you're expecting them to all be prince charming. Well that's not
- 7:30going to happen, right. You're basically doing the equivalent of like walking into
- 7:36a room full of people in wheelchairs and saying, well, all your wheelchairs
- 7:43make me feel uncomfortable, get rid of them, right. I mean,
- 7:46these these there's a distinct correlation between men maleness, autism, and interest in
- 7:56the dry sciences, so physics and engineering and stuff like that. Right,
- 8:00And also like the women who used to be in those we're also autistic.
- 8:05We're also autistic. So I mean, if this is there, if this
- 8:07is a woman who's like in her little cubby hole trying to, uh,
- 8:13I don't know, calculate the gravitational mass of a massive whatever, and and
- 8:18she and somebody accosts her by entering her space, and she looks at you
- 8:22like a frightened animal. More likely to be on the autistic spectrum, you
- 8:28know, and we know they're literally not sexually interested in you. Probably they're
- 8:33probably more likely to be just blunt and and did you get that done?
- 8:41Well, why the fuck not? Yeah, you know, and then they're
- 8:45like, well, that's so rude, and it's like, well, you're
- 8:48a fucking normy bitch. Get out of the fucking autist fields. Yeah,
- 8:54gender normatives, get out. No, not get out, no, no,
- 9:01neurotypical, neurotypical, get the fuck out. And just because women have
- 9:05so, it happened to be more often neurotypical, Like yeah, it really
- 9:09does come down to that. Scientifically minded people, men and women are not
- 9:16incredibly adept at being social, which is they're not well. It isn't unfortunate
- 9:22because okay, if Alan touring was wait, wait till I finish my thought,
- 9:30it's unfortunate because if they were more adept socially, the women who are
- 9:35already in the fields already accept the the the fact that it's a meritocracy,
- 9:39it's blunt, it's all about results. You know, would be able to
- 9:43stand toe to toe with the women who want to come in and throw their
- 9:46neurotypical weight around. That's well, I'm just saying that their space. And
- 9:54but these these these autistic women, they're not as capable of of playing the
- 10:00game. Shall we say the neurotip. Yeah, no, it's it's there.
- 10:03They're being led down a fucking primrose path all the time. And it's
- 10:05the same with the men. And it's like, you know, like what
- 10:09what you have as a situation with say someone like Alan Turing and what was
- 10:13what was the big complaint about him from all of his coworkers, colleagues,
- 10:18you know, underlings everything. He's not personable, he's not warm, he
- 10:22doesn't want to socialize, he's he's just like focused on the work only to
- 10:31the exclusion of everything else. Right, Well, you know that got results,
- 10:35right, And that's and you know, lucky for Alan Turing at least
- 10:41in the context of you know, everything having to do with that, right,
- 10:46lucky for him, because this kind of work, right, the kind
- 10:52of work that you need to be doing in those fields is extremely You need
- 10:56to have a monomoniacal focus on it. You need to basically exclude everything else.
- 11:03You can't. You don't have time. You don't have six months of
- 11:07like waking hours every fucking year to devote to like pursuing sexual and social relationships.
- 11:16No, you're freaking trying to solve problems, right, and the problems
- 11:20don't involve people they involve numbers and mass and freaking the laws of physics,
- 11:30right, that's what they involve. Right. You can't you can't say,
- 11:33oh, well, you know what this man is. Absolutely he's got an
- 11:35IQ of one hundred and fifty five, right, and he's like a super
- 11:41genius at like building a freaking mechanical brain, Okay. And he's going to
- 11:48build a mechanical brain that's gonna be able to like decode Enigma, right,
- 11:54be able to figure out the German enigma, win us the war. Okay.
- 12:00Well, if he was socially inclined at all, he'd be spending half
- 12:07of his time socializing. Yep. I'm just sorry, but you're you're looking
- 12:20at a situation where where you're asking these men James de Moore, most awkward
- 12:26fucking person on the planet that I've ever talked to, that I've ever interviewed.
- 12:31Right, he's so awkward socially right, absolutely fucking brilliant. Right,
- 12:39My husband, he doesn't fit in where he works. He's an engineer,
- 12:43he works in he does a lot of coding. He works in like data
- 12:45management and stuff like that, right, and he does a lot of the
- 12:48technical work. He doesn't fit in where he works, they all want to
- 12:52promote him to management, right, All the managers want to promote him to
- 12:56management. Well, management is what he would be best at. And he's
- 13:01like, yeah, I don't want to be a manager, right. Just
- 13:03because I'm sociable, right, just doesn't mean I want to be a manager.
- 13:11I'd rather stay in the union, right and not fit in right with
- 13:18these small rabbit rabbit like technical people right who basically look at him and go,
- 13:24oh God, if you punched me, I die. Yeah, you
- 13:31know, like, well he looks like a biker and he's very personable.
- 13:39So I just want to say, first of all, happy Halloween. Enjoy
- 13:43Halloween while we still have it, because I imagine that Halloween might disappear.
- 13:52Also, Happy birthday my daughter Rachel Chel. Okay, so let me do
- 13:58the things because we sort of got I track there. Yeah, all right,
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- 14:58I just I have one task that I need to finish, one spoopy Halloween
- 15:03task. So all right, I think she needs to get the candy in
- 15:09the pool. Are you do you have treaters coming? We may, we
- 15:15may. Indeed, yeah, I might too. Actually I meant that might
- 15:18be why JoJo's bar, because this is a special treat for for the supporters.
- 15:24So I'm gonna go do that. We'll come back. Won't be very
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- 16:03let's get into today's article. This is from The Guardian. This is twelve
- 16:07years old and it is entitled you Can't Deny It. Gender Studies is Full
- 16:12of male blaming bias by Tom Martin. So we have an article that's older
- 16:18than like how long I've been doing this, which is ten years. That's
- 16:25basically making the case and we've already been making anyway, I study the subject
- 16:30and it avoids male issues and justifies attacks against Menah September of two thousand and
- 16:37eleven, Jonathan Dean reacts dismissively to the news that I am suing the Gender
- 16:44Institute of the London School of Economics, where I was a student fear not
- 16:48Male Readers eight September. I guess that's the name of the another article or
- 16:53something. Let me see, Yeah, let's get the straight. Gender studies
- 16:59is not about women good men bad. Oh so this is like a year
- 17:04before that, I guess, yeah, yeah, no, it is,
- 17:08it very much is. Yeah, it's it's about women good. Men could
- 17:15be good, but they choose to be bad. Yeah. So it's worse
- 17:18than like, oh, it's just in their nature. It's like you could,
- 17:22you could be better, but you're choosing not to, which means that
- 17:26this is a you know, it's intentional people, it's willful, right,
- 17:30yeah, Okay, Uh where was I? Martin claims he had the misfortune
- 17:34of being subject to a torrent of anti male discrimination Dean Wrights adding quote.
- 17:41Martin alleges that the course material he studied was systematically anti male, overlooked men's
- 17:45issues, and ignored any research that contested a woman, good men bad line
- 17:51of reasoning. Furthermore, he claims the Gender Institute drummed into the students a
- 17:56simplistic view of women as victims and men as per portraders. Huh, where
- 18:02have I heard that? Before. No, I don't know. I don't
- 18:04know men as a monolithic perpetrator class and women is a monolithic victim class.
- 18:11I have not heard that this is, like, I don't there should be
- 18:15a word for it, like it's it's a revolutionary idea. Yeah, I
- 18:25just want to point out that this was twelve years ago. I know all
- 18:29that premise. Everybody, everybody who researches this stuff knows that it's bullshit.
- 18:36And gender studies, yeah, the whole gender studies narrative, the whole women's
- 18:40studies narrative, the whole narrative is complete crap. And like, all you
- 18:45have to do is ask one simple question, all right, what proves that
- 18:48men have preference for other men? Yeah, in order for there to be
- 18:53a society in which men benefit at them men at the expense of women,
- 18:57there has to be male pre friends. Yep. There's no other way.
- 19:03And there is absolutely nothing that proves that, not even among gay men.
- 19:08In other words, the basic premise of feminism has no proof. It actually
- 19:14has ample proof against it, this confirming evidence. You know, So every
- 19:19time someone says, well, patriarchy theory, you should say citation because they
- 19:23don't have anything it is a non scientific concept. Yeah, no, you
- 19:30need to. You need to basically we need to start using the you know,
- 19:34the terminology patriarchy hypothesis or patriarchy conjecture, right, and then on top
- 19:41of on top of that, we have to begin to describe it as a
- 19:48wrongful accusation in which men as a collective were summarily conviction sentence first, then
- 19:59conviction then trial. No, no, never trial. We don't, We're
- 20:03not even. It's basically a false accusation that has been presumed true. Yep.
- 20:08It's a gigantic false accusation by this society against men that has not just
- 20:15never been proven true, but been proven false, and yet well over and
- 20:19over and over over and over and over again, and we still perpetuate it.
- 20:25And funnily enough, you know, I mean, we do this,
- 20:29we say to men and boys that they have no place in our society as
- 20:33men and boys. And then and then these these individuals who do it.
- 20:37Yeah, and if you know what it is, this isn't you know what.
- 20:41I'm pretty sure that they're not so stupid they can't make the connection between
- 20:44saying to men and boys, yeah, you have no place in society as
- 20:47men and boys, which is what they're doing. No positive masculinity. Men's
- 20:52contribution to society is oppressive to women on the whole. Men steal from women
- 20:59using society on the whole. Men use society as a means or or use
- 21:04rape as a means, as a socially acceptable means to keep women under their
- 21:08control. All of these statements are feminist statements and promoted by feminist academia,
- 21:15feminist influence, government and NGOs and media. Okay, and these individuals who
- 21:22promote these statements, I don't think they're so stupid not to realize the ultimate
- 21:26effect of these statements on men, because they pretend they're like shock Pikachu face
- 21:33when men start checking out when the participation of men not just in the reproductive
- 21:40economy, but the actual economy is declining hand over fist year after year,
- 21:47you know, and then then again shock pika. I don't think that they
- 21:49are that stupid. I think they know that that's going to be the result.
- 21:55In fact, I think that they know that all of this is going
- 21:57to drive us over a cliff. They just I don't want to do no,
- 22:03no, no no. I don't think that they know that this is
- 22:04going to drive us over a cliff because nobody's actually allowed to really talk about
- 22:10because anytime you talk about something that could actually snap them out of it and
- 22:12go, oh, what the fuck are we doing? We're headed off a
- 22:15cliff, right, They freak out because they they are in denial and they
- 22:21are delusional. And the delusion is that a society can be perpetuated and sustainable
- 22:27with only female productivity. And that is the biggest fucking lie of all right,
- 22:37you know, like you have the Merry Dailies and the Sally millergare Hearts
- 22:40of the world saying, you know, well, men should be and you
- 22:45know, the uh Valerie salonises right saying men should be basically could or or
- 22:52you know, maybe through selective procreation or whatever. Right, you know,
- 22:56maybe we don't have to kill anybody, but you know we could just through
- 23:00so just a little bit of eugenics, just a little yeah, a little
- 23:06bit you know, just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, bring men
- 23:10out time for an abortion and when it's not you know, yeah, so
- 23:15and then we could we could orchestrate, we could organize a society where men
- 23:18are only like ten percent of the population, and that would be the ideal
- 23:22society. Right, that's what you know, every time I'd see a Hillary
- 23:26freaking supporter wearing the Future is female shirt, you know, like, and
- 23:30I ask them like, do you know what that actually means? You know
- 23:34where that that quote arose from, that slogan arose from it. It rose
- 23:41from the idea that men should only be ten percent of the population. Right,
- 23:47that's a Sally Miller Gerhart freaking sentiment. And yeah, and so they
- 23:52should be reduced to ten percent of the population at most and be basically just
- 23:59you as sperm donors and women will take care of everything else because you know
- 24:07that'll work, right, that'll that'll definitely work. And and I'm just like,
- 24:12no, it's already not working, Like are you fucking retarded? Like
- 24:18what is going on? It's already not working, righted, And it's we
- 24:25haven't even gotten to the point where we're culling the male population, right.
- 24:32We still have a population that's we still have a birth rate that's slightly more
- 24:36than fifty percent male and slightly less than fifty percent male overall. So you're
- 24:45you're still looking at like the population is forty eight forty nine percent male,
- 24:51and we still can't fucking make it work unless men are heavily inv in making
- 25:02it work. Yeah, and how and then they get mad. They get
- 25:10mad, right, you know, oh, leave women alone. And then
- 25:14when men alone, they're like, why aren't you having getting married to us
- 25:19and taking our babies. To be fair, it's probably other women. But
- 25:26they got to realize those women who are complaining about men not approaching not getting
- 25:30married, well, the loudest voice in the room is women saying, don't
- 25:36approach us and marriage is slavery. Yeah. Ok. And if you want
- 25:41to be a louder voice and the honest to God truth is the only way
- 25:45to overwhelm the feminist voice now is not through the conservative Herodin voice, which
- 25:51is, oh men, o, they ol us to pay for our living.
- 25:56No, you got to actually care. At this point, there's there's
- 26:02no. It's not just that men are holding out and saying, ah,
- 26:06I'm walking to care into women care. It's that they're in such a state
- 26:08of pain that they won't respond to shaming anymore. That's the problem with shaming
- 26:15is that you shame people into depression and then they stop responding, or drug
- 26:18abuse or suicide, and they just stop respond They just curl up, and
- 26:22you cannot shame them more and to get them out of a place that they
- 26:26got into because they were shamed. So any kind of herod and conservative wife
- 26:32herod and crap is not gonna work. Any kind of statement based on anything
- 26:37but a sense of concern and compassion for men is not gonna get them out
- 26:41of this turtle position. Sorry, ladies, So you can't You cannot shame
- 26:47them by saying man up, you know, marry, man up, go
- 26:51and approach women, man up, take jobs and stuff. Now, you
- 26:55can't shame people out of depression. It doesn't mean you can't shame them out
- 27:00of out of what you because what were you telling them yesterday? Make room
- 27:07for women in the workplace, step back, take a step back, to
- 27:12make room for women in the public sphere. Don't approach women because it's rude
- 27:19and it and it upsets us, right and all of this, And then
- 27:23all of a sudden you're complaining about the results of what you were demanding yesterday.
- 27:29The conservative women would say, well, we didn't demand that, Yeah,
- 27:32they they just didn't stand up against it, Like this is the honest
- 27:38satrue. You know, I can say that it's not going to work,
- 27:41But also you know what men at this point in time, men deserve to
- 27:47have women who have their back. Yeah, well, I mean and they
- 27:49don't, oh right, Like I made I think it was in my Female
- 27:55Hypoagency video where I basically said, you know, might have been that one.
- 28:02You know, like this narrative isn't true of all women, but all
- 28:07women seem to be perfectly willing to tolerate this right to tolerate other women perpetuating
- 28:15this narrative. And so it's like the whole single mother thing, right,
- 28:22Well, how are you going to how are you gonna like fix that?
- 28:27Okay, and get women to start making a common sense, intelligent choices,
- 28:37reproductive choices right that do not make them a burden on other people or the
- 28:42government, right or you know both right, because the government has no money,
- 28:48it's our money. Like it if there are no sensible women, and
- 28:56there are no consequences standing and shaming the women who make those irresponsible choices,
- 29:08right, if all the sensible women who make sensible choices and responsible choices for
- 29:15themselves are engaged in making excuses for the ones who who make the irresponse,
- 29:25Oh well, you know, she just she had a tough childhood and oh
- 29:29well, she just you know, and we can't really shame her because she's
- 29:33just doing her best. She's doing the best she can. Yeah no,
- 29:36fuck that, fuck that, like this is this is This is what drives
- 29:42me crazy is even the sensible women aren't willing to actually go that extra step
- 29:51to say that what these other women are doing with their lives and the lives
- 29:56of their children is not Okay, I just watched it bass Fizz video for
- 30:00the first time in forever, right, and he you know where he called
- 30:06uh single bitter single mothers raccoons, right because apparently they they really love bass
- 30:15Fizz. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, sorry, and he but he
- 30:25he said he called them raccoons because they love trash men. And he's like,
- 30:29you know, I'm sorry, but if you got four kids by three
- 30:30different baby daddies and none of those baby daddies could be ours to stick around,
- 30:37maybe you there's something wrong with your decisions. Mm hmm, right,
- 30:45Like because unless they all raped you to get you knocked up, right,
- 30:52those were your decisions. You picked those men, yep, right, And
- 31:00nobody's willing to actually put it on these women, right because as a woman,
- 31:07even if you're raped, you can be on long term birth control,
- 31:12you can get an abortion, you can opt for adoption or safe haven abandonment.
- 31:21You don't need to condemn that child to a lifetime of only having a
- 31:30baby mama and not even knowing who baby daddy is. Yeah. Right,
- 31:37But it's not that they're being raped. It's that they're picking these men,
- 31:41right, trash men. They complain about the trash that they roll in.
- 31:45They're raccoons. Yeah, that's uh. I'm actually very amused by that,
- 31:52the raccoon theory or the raccoon epithet, because it really does get to the
- 31:57to the meat of the matter. But they love the trash. They have
- 32:01to allow these ways. They don't like the way they smell after they've rolled
- 32:06it. The consequences of their actions. But here's the big it's not just
- 32:10the women suffering the consequences. It's there, I know, it's their children.
- 32:15Well, one thing we could try doing, is get is do a
- 32:19hell of a lot more to uh improve and expand upon the punitive father registry
- 32:23so that we can identify the fathers and give them the option to have custody
- 32:30or to share custody with the mother, or pay child support. You know
- 32:34for both you know, and uh, maybe that would start to get the
- 32:38gears moving in these women's heads if they know that it's not going to just
- 32:44be really easy to walk away with the kid in money, that they're actually
- 32:47going to have to negotiate with another adult human being. Yeah, you know
- 32:52what I mean. And honestly, maybe these women want the kid, but
- 32:57they don't want the dad, even though they find desirable, they just don't
- 33:00want to have to deal with them in their lives. Which why are you
- 33:05creating a kid with a person who you don't want to father that kid?
- 33:08Yeah? Honestly, where is your common sense? But yeah, that's a
- 33:14that's again there's a complexity there because when we talk about women need to be
- 33:19subject to the consequences, now they're creating a child. The child has done
- 33:23nothing wrong and he and they're going to have to suffer their the results of
- 33:28their mother's shitty behavior. Yep, bad choices. And this is sort of
- 33:35a wicked problem because if I could extract the woman from the scenario and actually
- 33:42have no blowback fall in the child, then that would be the ideal situation.
- 33:49Uh, I don't know, you're right, Probably it's just gonna have
- 33:52to be shaming the crap out of women, or at least guilting them,
- 33:55making them realize that you are going to be held responsible for the vulnerability of
- 34:00something that's completely reliant on you and innocent of innocent did not choose this and
- 34:07did not choose this, and you are going to take responsibility for doing the
- 34:13best that you can, even before that little life exists. M Yeah,
- 34:17I got a super chat from Senior Sticks gives us two dollars and says the
- 34:24artificial woman will save us. Humans are messy. Thank you, Senior Sticks.
- 34:30And you notice if you send through a super chat, it will it
- 34:34will send a message out to every chat that we are connected to right now
- 34:37because I'm well because I made that happen. So made that the talent,
- 34:45made the chat more interactive, and you integrated it. I did. I
- 34:52integrated it into the discord as well as all like the Rumble, because Rumble
- 35:00has always been like a dessert island that wasn't quite connected to the other places
- 35:06even though we're streaming there. But this kind of brings Rumble in so people
- 35:08can see. You know that we have custom emojis on Rumble that people can
- 35:14use, like the cool Doge and then people can see it. Maybe they'll
- 35:19be like, oh, I want to play with the cool doge, and
- 35:21so they will follow us on Rumble because I think Rumble is a good platform
- 35:23that should grow. Although their app, their mobile app, needs some work,
- 35:28but still, well, you know, you know, you know what,
- 35:30you know what Viva Fry does. I don't know if any of our
- 35:32listeners know who he is. I do, I do, yeah, yeah.
- 35:36Viva Fry and Robert Barnes when they do their streams, they they do
- 35:42the first half hour or so on YouTube Rumble and Locals, and then they
- 35:49end the stream on YouTube and send everybody the link to Rumble, and then
- 35:55they do the next hour or so on maybe hour and a half on Rumble
- 36:00and Locals, and then they do an after show where they answer questions for
- 36:08money five bucks. Five bucks gets you an answer to a question on locals.
- 36:15So they they basically they they're trying to transition people from YouTube toward Rumble
- 36:24and Rumble rants at least until the end of the year. I'm not sure
- 36:31whether it's the end of the fiscal year or the end of the year year.
- 36:36They're not charging anything for there you go Rumble rants. I don't think,
- 36:44right, they normally take YouTube takes thirty percent, Rumble takes twenty percent,
- 36:47but for some reason this year, Rumble pledged to like stop taking Rumble
- 36:54rent money in August or something like that. So yeah, so they're not
- 37:04taking a commission at least not on Viva and Barns right. I don't know
- 37:12whether that's like across the platform, so don't quote me on that, but
- 37:16but yeah, so it's like, if you want to build up a free
- 37:21free speech platform, then you know, maybe maybe consider doing that format.
- 37:29Yeah, I followed, I follow I start out with them on YouTube,
- 37:32and I follow them over to rumbles there you go and occasionally to locals.
- 37:39Should I move? Yeah, I'm not on local. I was. I
- 37:43was watching molling you on there. I kind of dropped off going a local.
- 37:47I don't like it layout. So yeah, it's not it doesn't have
- 37:52the best UI, but it is where a lot of the people that you
- 37:54are like whatever happened to so and so a lot of them are over there.
- 37:59Oh yeah, the ball's cozy, Rumble, you know, Teal Deer
- 38:02is there, like yeah, Coltaane is there. So if you're like,
- 38:07there are people that you're like, Oh, I wonder what happened to this
- 38:09person? They might be over there. I got another super chat super chat
- 38:15from Senior six and he gives it two dollars and says, well, the
- 38:19artificial womb draw women woman quickly. What do you mean, draw woman quickly?
- 38:23I don't understand the question, jez okay. I I don't understand how
- 38:30the artificial womb will solve anything. I am. I don't. I don't
- 38:36think so either. First of all, I don't think it's really reliable technology.
- 38:39Second of all, I don't think I think that it's probably gonna be
- 38:44really only good for like, very rich men that can afford it. I
- 38:49think that regular men are gonna want to do it the old fashioned way.
- 38:52There's just a number of issues with that. I think that sif you're saying
- 38:55artificial womb is like the fix, I don't think it's the fix. I
- 38:59think think it's actually a step towards the like fucking a brave New World dystopia
- 39:04in my opinion. Yeah, No, I think that most people, when
- 39:07they're contemplating having kids, most people want a co parent. Yeah. And
- 39:15uh, and then on top of that, I mean you could say,
- 39:17well, okay, gay men could opt for an artificial womb. But I
- 39:22just don't see given the sheer complexity of the biological processes going on, I
- 39:29don't see how the technology could be the technology of the actual womb could be
- 39:36replicated by an artificial womb. I mean, just stated a goat doesn't mean
- 39:42that they are actually you know what, what one thing is occurring is the
- 39:45artificial womb or something similar to it is making it so that infant or uh
- 39:54in utero? What were they and I don't want to say fetuses, but
- 39:59uh babies who are ges stating they are viable younger and younger? Now,
- 40:04yes you can't Yeah that was and one week. So the question is if
- 40:12it does introduce a question if a woman has a fetus removed during the the
- 40:19the window of viability, and she decides she doesn't want to be a parent,
- 40:25why can't a man either possession of his own DNA, Yes, of
- 40:31his own DNA and you know, pay for the continuing gestation of it.
- 40:37Well, this, this is this is what I always ask when these like
- 40:40creaking insane pro pro choicers, Right, pro choice, no restrictions period,
- 40:47Right, I'm like, okay, well, so let's say, and it's
- 40:53it's all because it's her body, her choice. Okay. So let's say
- 40:58you could we could pull a star trek, okay, and we could beam
- 41:04the baby out to feed us out at even at six days gestation, right,
- 41:12and beam it into an artificial womb. And the man will underwrite the
- 41:16entire project and pay for the child, and the woman will own nothing,
- 41:22the mother will owe nothing to anybody? Right, would you go for that?
- 41:28And they're like no, like I have never had a single fucking feminist
- 41:34pro choice or say that they would be okay with that. So that tells
- 41:37me it's about it's not about their body, it's not about their choice to
- 41:42be a mother. M I don't know what the fuck it is about the
- 41:49power to deny men, or the power to end life, yeah, or
- 41:58the power to not be bothered not you know that they can go with the
- 42:02rest of their life never having a fleeting thought about, Oh, I wonder
- 42:07how my progeny is out there somewhere you know. No, they'll know exactly
- 42:14where it is. It's in a fucking dumpster, It's in a landfill somewhere,
- 42:19yep, or you know, ash is in a fucking medical incinerator.
- 42:27All right, so yeah, it's the ability to play god. Okay,
- 42:30I got a superchow, so thank you. I got a super Chow from
- 42:35a great indoors who gives us five dollars and says, just testing out the
- 42:39superchowd pop up mechanism. Nothing to see here, badger on all right,
- 42:45well you yeah, it works, it's it's I'm displaying it right now.
- 42:51So I told you. You want to see your name in big letters on
- 42:55the screen, send a superchow. It'll go right through. I got another.
- 43:00Here's another one from Nova Fan, which I'm also going to put on
- 43:04the screen for twenty dollars. Thank you so much, Nova Fan. And
- 43:08he says Republicans, when feminists refuse to be traditional in marriage for selfish reasons,
- 43:14sleep the same Republicans when men refuse to get married to feminists avoid being
- 43:19harmed by the legal system. Panic. Yeah, thank you Nova fans.
- 43:24It's unfortunate and this is not true. Like there are individual conservatives who will
- 43:30recognize this problem, but for the most part, it seems like the party
- 43:35line is just blame men like men like feminists. Okay, they're afraid of
- 43:40women. Jet feminists blame men for constructing society, and Republican or conservatives blame
- 43:47men for not constructing society. Yeah, and between the two of them,
- 43:52men have no comfortable way of existing. Who but at least even Kevin agrees.
- 44:00At least conservatives, you get the veneer of not being as supposedly fiscally
- 44:07being more fiscally responsible, or keeping the government knows out of the economy,
- 44:12the veneer of it. I honestly don't think they really do. But yeah,
- 44:16all right, Well men's issues always vote men's issues. Yeah, all
- 44:23right, I'll get back to the article now. Dean, a former researcher
- 44:29at ls's Gender Institute, denies everything. Gender studies programs encourage students to acknowledge
- 44:36the limitations of a victim centered understanding of womanhood buying words, but a close
- 44:42analysis of the core text shows that all the old male blaming biases are still
- 44:46there. Patriarchy theory, the idea that men typically dominate women is omnipresent.
- 44:53When research shows women tend to boss men interpersonally. Texts highlight misogyny but never
- 45:00miss injury. So he was using miss injury twelve years ago. It's anti
- 45:04male equivalent despite research finding that women's verbal verbalize Women verbalize four times more miss
- 45:10indry than men do misogyny. It's probably gone up since then. Actually,
- 45:15and the pre texts highlight violence against women only, despite decades of research showing
- 45:21that women are more likely to initiate domestic violence. Does anyonet to say anything
- 45:27to that? Or should I just keep doing? No, it's it's it's
- 45:29all. This is all old hat, but but it is. It is
- 45:34nice that this kind of stuff was being published in the Guardian twelve years weird.
- 45:38I don't think. I don't think this guy works for them anymore.
- 45:43Okay, let's get a few things thinks straight, says Dean. The dominant
- 45:46ideas, approaches, and insights of the vast majority of academic disciplines are produced
- 45:52by four and about men. There are entrenched gender biases in most fields.
- 45:58So what he's saying is it like everywhere else in academia, it's for men.
- 46:01So mathematics that's for men, Geometry that's for men. Science that's for
- 46:07men. Right, those things are for men'sology, history, literature, sociology
- 46:21is is gender study. Well no, wait, actually men dominate most of
- 46:23that, but women all they get is gender studies. That's all they get.
- 46:29Okay, anyway, no wonder, I wonder. I can't use their
- 46:31their their degrees for anything. You have to remember that this is this is
- 46:35part of what you remember the show we did with Teal Deer on feminist nosis.
- 46:38Yeah, this is the white male system. Yeah. What this guy
- 46:43is saying is because these are meritocracies, they are inherently masculine. And it's
- 46:47not wrong. The meritocracy is, which is ironic because the guy would probably
- 46:53turn around and say that any benefits to a meritocracy, or of course there's
- 46:58really the result of femaleness somehow. But yeah, he's right, Like,
- 47:01they are masculine spaces because they're focused on merit and outcome and your ability to
- 47:09affect movement towards your goal. Shall we say, Yeah, I mean that's
- 47:15a masculine space. So he's right. The problem is that he goes from
- 47:21saying this masculine space is anything but of service to society and women, like,
- 47:28yes, it's a masculine space, but what is the ultimate benefit.
- 47:31Who are the ultimate beneficiaries of all of the activity in this masculine space.
- 47:37Who's the ultimate beneficiary of all of the drones in the termite mound building the
- 47:40frickin' termite mound, the queen and the offspring and the future of the mound,
- 47:45like, yeah, this that's the thing. Like, so they stop
- 47:49at the dominant ideas approaches are are masculine. Therefore women are are oppressed by
- 47:57everything else in society because it's based on masculine virtues like meritocracy, which they
- 48:01won't recognize as masculine virtues, but they will do so in order to say
- 48:08that that you see how it is men constructed society, that's why it excludes
- 48:15women. But men aren't actually responsible for the positives of society existing. So
- 48:21yeah, you know, yeah, no, they constructed everything but except the
- 48:24good bits, but which we're stolen from women somehow when good bits arise from
- 48:31the meritocracy that they're associating with mathunity in order to argue that they exclude women,
- 48:37going, yeah, no, the the irritating thing, right, because
- 48:42meritocracy is considered a masculine value. It's just not considered a positive right just
- 48:46like it And meritocracy is also now considered under critical race theory to be a
- 48:52white supremacist value, right, and it's it's Basically, what they argue is
- 49:00that it's what GitHub argued years ago, right when you know they had their
- 49:06their big doormat or whatever, when you went into their building and it said
- 49:13meritocracy. That was their motto, meritocracy, and they got rid of it,
- 49:16and they threw that away as a motto because all of these feminists and
- 49:21woke people and social justice warriors said, meritocracy is a sham. Right,
- 49:25there's no such thing as meritocracy. You know, I agree about this earlier.
- 49:34I agree there is such a thing as nepotism. There is such a
- 49:37thing as personal bias, There is such a thing as getting ahead start,
- 49:42But not in meritocracy. Well, no, there there is such such a
- 49:47thing within systems that are broadly meritocratic. Right, Like my husband, my
- 49:55husband's my husband's cousin had a dad with connections, right, who could make
- 50:02a phone call for him to get him his first job. Right. My
- 50:07husband did not have a dad who could make a phone call for him because
- 50:10of his connections and get him his first job. Right. He had to
- 50:14struggle more. He was born in a different at a different starting line.
- 50:17Okay, that's just the way it is, right, and not everything is
- 50:22about the output. Not everything is. Sometimes it really isn't all about what
- 50:27you know and what you can do. It's also about who you know and
- 50:30what they are willing to do for you because they know your parents, right,
- 50:35And that's just the way it is. He got his first freaking real
- 50:38job because he texted a friend of his from school whose brother owned a business,
- 50:45and he texted him and I'm just out of frustration, didn't ask him
- 50:49to make any phone calls. He just texted him and said, what the
- 50:52fuck do I have to do? It's been nine months, What the fuck
- 50:54do I have to do? Put will suck your dick for a fucking job
- 50:58at the top of my resume, right, And then his friend took it
- 51:02upon himself to call his brother and say, hey, you want to give
- 51:06this guy a shot because he's having a real hard time because he's got no
- 51:08connection. So there is no such thing as a straight meritocracy. It does
- 51:15not exist. If it exists, it exists. The most uncorrupted versions of
- 51:21it exist in the dry sciences, the realm of the autists. Okay,
- 51:29but the idea that women are cut out of meritocracies, No, no,
- 51:37they're not. They just take all of the merriatiocratic elements of a system and
- 51:44turn it into nepotism, turn it into favoritism, turn it into freaking getting
- 51:50along, you know, social lubrication, all of that stuff. They don't
- 51:55give a shit about productivity, right, even some of the autistic women I
- 52:00know. I'm like, are you kidding me, bitch? Right, every
- 52:06time you take three days off to go skiing or something, you break a
- 52:08bone and then you're off for like two months of paid leave. Right,
- 52:15Can can you manage a weekend without breaking a fucking bone doing something stupid?
- 52:22Well? And then and then and yeah, and then in a year you're
- 52:25gonna want to go on maternity leave and you'd be like, well, I
- 52:29earned it. And it's like, well, yeah, you're you're talented,
- 52:31you're productive when you're there, right, But that doesn't keep the fucking water
- 52:37running. Yeah. But ultimately, even though there are counterexamples to meritocracy,
- 52:45the idea that you get your foot in the door, maybe through your contacts,
- 52:49maybe through your family contacts, but at that point you have to actually
- 52:52perform, there is that concept as well. And overall, okay, just
- 52:59let me finish, Just let me finish, overall, what this guy is
- 53:02arguing is like, there's a feminine sphere and a masculine sphere, okay,
- 53:09and the masculine sphere is governed by meritocracy and logic and outcomes and goals,
- 53:20which he would probably regard as masculine because he's saying that that excludes women.
- 53:27And then when women get into these fields, and this goes back to what
- 53:30we were talking about in the beginning, they change them. They changed them
- 53:34into something that is less functional on the meritocratic axis. And I want to
- 53:38talk about one example that's really close to my heart, the publishing industry.
- 53:44You know, twenty thirty forty years ago, the publishing industry was dominated by
- 53:50men who were editing, and women who were probably more masculine, who are
- 53:53editing, and and writers who also had more of the meriticratic logic, goals
- 54:04results kind of attitude. And now it is becoming dominated by people who think
- 54:10that how things are said, the tone, whether or not they're morally correct,
- 54:15and that changes every single god damn day with every single person, and
- 54:21ultimately just results in a warlord like free for all King of the Mountain deathmatch
- 54:30over who has the most social dominance thus can enforce their opinion of what is
- 54:35moral. That's what's going on. You see that there is no there is
- 54:38no external thing that anybody can judge themselves by. So they are always trying
- 54:43to hit the shifting target of being virtuous, and yet the only person who
- 54:47really ends up being most virtuous is the woman who can slam body slam everybody
- 54:52else around her hardest. You notice that, Karen, Well, when I
- 54:59was when I was in the industry, it was basically eighty percent of the
- 55:06fiction publishing industry was female agents, female editors, female publishers, right,
- 55:15yes, And so they're making the decisions as to what gets published. They're
- 55:21the gatekeepers. And then you have you have a situation where this was you
- 55:30know, during the sort of the e book entrepreneurship phase, where you had
- 55:35all these small public publishers pop up. And what I found was there were
- 55:43very few small publishers, independent publishers out there who did ebooks and print books
- 55:52that did not try to sell their authors on the idea that this publishing house
- 56:01runs like a family. And and so you'd have, oh, I love
- 56:07my publisher. You know, the place is like a family. It's like
- 56:10and I'm like, oh, fuck no, not touching that shit with a
- 56:15ten foot pole. Right. Oh, it's it's run like a family.
- 56:19No, I need something that's run like a business, like it needs it
- 56:22wants to make money. And I found one, right. But it's like
- 56:29this idea that you know, it's all about the fields. It's all about
- 56:31the fields and feeling supported and feeling you know, inter like your feelings are
- 56:37being entertained and you know, and like you're just very comfortable there and you
- 56:42can you can raise a concern about something at any point and and and it's
- 56:46like and they'll always accommodate your feelings. And it's I was just like,
- 56:51that is the last fucking thing I want, right, And that is kind
- 56:54of you know, and if you want to go into like sort of missonry
- 57:00in fiction, particularly in children's books, things like boys are stupid, throw
- 57:07rocks at them and you know all of that, right you're looking at this,
- 57:12which I wouldn't mind if there were also books called, you know,
- 57:21club gross, get rid of slimy girls, right, like Calvin and Hobbes.
- 57:28Okay, if we were still allowed to have that, have that kind
- 57:31of combative rivalry between boys and girls, that goes both ways, but we're
- 57:38not allowed to have that anymore. And so you're looking at a lot of
- 57:45that is decided by the fact that women run the whole show basically, and
- 57:52so I'm just like fiction publishing is, I don't need to be there,
- 58:02No, And I think it exactly not worse than that, because now everything
- 58:07is about virtue signaling and being sensitive and I can see that it really has
- 58:14nothing to do with that. It's it is a like I said, a
- 58:16free for all queen of the mountain. Whoever wins the battle is the one
- 58:22with the most social clout and the and the and the prize is to erase
- 58:29her enemy from from the the from the the writing sphere or the writing industry.
- 58:37And I've seen this, like that's what's happening now, Like they're they're
- 58:40canceling women for or other women for some of the most minute transgressions, and
- 58:46they're just killing you out and they've turned the entire publishing industry or they are
- 58:52in the process of turning the entire publishing industry into a battle ground over virtue
- 58:58signaling. And it's not really about virtue signaling. I mean, I think
- 59:01if women had more risk tolerance. They would probably just use pick axes and
- 59:05knives to just to just eradicate their enemies. You know, that's basically like
- 59:10really virtue signaling and censorship and social ostracization is women's pick caskses and knives.
- 59:19So all they go in these these women are chomping at the bit, grinding
- 59:23for some blood. And they go into an industry and they turn it into
- 59:27a blood bath. It's not a physical blood bath, I'm using a metaphor.
- 59:30It's a social blood bath. But that that kind of competitive absolute aggression
- 59:38comes out, and that's what you know, they get into there and this
- 59:42is what you see. And whereas in a in a they talk about how
- 59:46men's spaces are competitive, Yes, but they're very strictly controlled in how they're
- 59:53competitive. Okay, you're not a in a cooperative competitive circumstance. You're competing
- 1:00:00to become the best through a meritocracy. You're not competing to utterly eradicate your
- 1:00:07rival, you know, to blow Yeah, because of the sphere like out
- 1:00:12of the world. Yeah, because the ice flow. Because because you know
- 1:00:16the way Gilgamesh knew this with Anky do right, and the way even chimpanzee
- 1:00:22emails know, right, Uh, you get into a conflict, right,
- 1:00:29there's one who's the victor and one who's who's who's who loses, right,
- 1:00:36then you make amends because if if there's someone who is tough enough to give
- 1:00:43you a proper fight, right, well you you actually might want to befriend
- 1:00:49that person, right, you might want to have that person or that individual
- 1:00:54as an ally. Right, Because they're like this is they did this with
- 1:01:01They looked at different sports right where there's sort of one on one it's a
- 1:01:10like combative ritual combative sports, right, so boxing and competitive sports right where
- 1:01:16people are directly competing with each other, tennis and stuff like that. And
- 1:01:22they found that when you have two men who are competing, right, then
- 1:01:29after one of them is declared the victor and the other declared the loser,
- 1:01:34right, they have a much more sincere and warm way of shaking hands or
- 1:01:44even hugging once the fight is done. Right, Whereas with women it's cold,
- 1:01:51it's cold and perfunctory. They only have to do it because it's a
- 1:01:53tradition within male sports. So they just they go through the motions, right.
- 1:01:59They not they do not want to be friends make friends, and that's
- 1:02:02because women never had to do those things, right if if they were in
- 1:02:07direct competition with another woman, right, they don't. They didn't have any
- 1:02:12shortage of allies. They had a man. And that is the real problem.
- 1:02:16When women take over an industry, they have no ability or less ability
- 1:02:22to control their competition with each other. Yeah, forgive turn the industry into
- 1:02:29the wasteland of psychological violence. And partly it's because they aren't held to a
- 1:02:35standard of behavior when it comes to how they treat other women and how they
- 1:02:38treat men. And also, we live in a society which seems to be
- 1:02:43convinced that men have nothing to learn from men, nothing at all, that
- 1:02:47women are the moral good and men are the fallen ones. And it's like,
- 1:02:52no, actually, we women do. If women want to take want
- 1:02:55to be part of men's industry, they need to learn how they do it.
- 1:03:00It Like it's arrogance to think you can walk into a space and know
- 1:03:04it better than the people who built it. Yeah, and demand that it
- 1:03:07changed as sooner, then demand that it changed. And then when it changes
- 1:03:12and you fuck it all up. Yeah, blame men again. Blame the
- 1:03:15men. Yeah, jeez. And like, honestly, you know, women
- 1:03:22with that example of the female fighter. You know, what they probably want
- 1:03:25is like, you know, the ability to win by backstabbing, like literally
- 1:03:30stabbing the other woman after the fight is over, you know, like a
- 1:03:35like a like a thirty second free for all if you can, you know,
- 1:03:37sudden death. If you stab your partner, if you stab your opponent
- 1:03:43to death, you still win. That Like there's no sportsmanship going on with
- 1:03:49women, you know, and it's like value, Like, honestly, there's
- 1:03:53some under there's some reason for this. I think that women's competition is so
- 1:03:58devastating. And part of the reason is because if women are unable to secure
- 1:04:02resources, their children die. Yeah, so they are the line of defense
- 1:04:08between their children and starvation. So their competition will be deadly. Okay.
- 1:04:14Men can have these cooperative competitive relationships in which they share some sense of common
- 1:04:18purpose, but for women it's more difficult because a lot of their activities are
- 1:04:24individualistic in a lot of ways, they're just on their own sort of,
- 1:04:29And so that there's this kind of level of violence makes sense in the terms
- 1:04:32of women compete over resources, and that resources are always the most devastating competitions
- 1:04:39for humans in many ways. And also when women are engaging in violence,
- 1:04:45it usually means that the kids are going to be next in line for death.
- 1:04:48So women have evolved certain psychological things that men don't have. They have
- 1:04:54the ability to when violence starts. It seems like they have ability to just
- 1:05:01it, just go balls to the wall and like it it, like bring
- 1:05:06everything to bear, every kind of savagery to bear, and also deal with
- 1:05:11it psychologically better. This is something that they found when they when they looked
- 1:05:15at female versus male drone pilots. You take away the risk to self.
- 1:05:19Women deal with the psychological fallouts of dealing violence to others better than men.
- 1:05:26R U. They are. They are brutal, and there's reasons for it,
- 1:05:31and if we don't acknowledge that, we will never be in a situation
- 1:05:35of perhaps turning that brutality to the benefit of humanity, because every negative is
- 1:05:41also a positive. Okay, I'll get off my soapbox. I got I
- 1:05:45got a super chat from Paul Grafton. He gives us one hundred tie bots
- 1:05:53be a HTS the tie currency, and he says, your coworkers are like
- 1:05:58your family. You can't choose them either. Thank you Paul Grafton for the
- 1:06:02tie bots bots. I don't know how you say that. I should probably
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- 1:06:48work is you know, like I've said multiple times, more and more,
- 1:06:54I'm realizing that we're, as far as I know, the first outlet to
- 1:07:00connect the last the lack of recognition of men's issues to a lot of the
- 1:07:05problems we're seeing in the greater world. So the lack of recognition of men's
- 1:07:10issues, men's right to their own activities, essentially The fallout of that was
- 1:07:15Gamergate and Anita Carsarkisian and the takeover of men's activities because well, women should
- 1:07:23have access to it, and that means women should dominate how the social landscape
- 1:07:28of those activities is conducted, or at least not not even all women,
- 1:07:32just feminist women. And then progressively we see more and more of this,
- 1:07:36Oh, this will be improved by removing the masculine virtues and substituting feminists,
- 1:07:45feminists and feminine and feminine own reality into it. And the more we do
- 1:07:51this, the more we are basically deconstructing what makes our society work. And
- 1:07:56honestly, I think we're doing it because women don't know what to do with
- 1:08:00themselves. They're bored, they don't have a sphere anymore, so they're co
- 1:08:04opting men's sphere to the destruction of both. So, if you would like
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- 1:08:39till the point at which this whole process which we recognized eleven years ago,
- 1:08:45twelve years ago, thirty years ago, this whole process of kicking masculinity out
- 1:08:51till people the pain of it becomes so great that people recognize that we need
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- 1:09:12can start enjoying a civilization that has a future. Okay. Oh and also
- 1:09:18if you want to send us a message, feed the Badger dot com slash
- 1:09:20just a tip. All right, let's get some more done with I don't
- 1:09:24think you're not the article. I don't know, okay. By pretending men's
- 1:09:30issues are disproportionately focused on, and by implying that there is lots of anti
- 1:09:35female bias everywhere, Dean attempts to justify the continuation of attacks on men and
- 1:09:43avoidance of men's issues debates, as is standard in the gender studies orthodoxy.
- 1:09:47Today, when women's studies become gender studies departments, it signaled a new era
- 1:09:53of inclusion for men's issues. A rejection of this now is a betrayal of
- 1:09:58men and equality prop stop. I just want to point something out to the
- 1:10:03conservatives. In order to present men's sphere as a oppression of women, the
- 1:10:15existence of men's fear and men's ways of doing things and men's virtues as oppression
- 1:10:20of women, they had to embrace this idea of a blank slate when it
- 1:10:26comes to gender. So, in other words, men aren't doing these things
- 1:10:30because they're men, and not only doing these things because they're men, but
- 1:10:32doing it overwhelmingly to protect and provide for other people. They're doing it because
- 1:10:39they artificially want to exclude women from these areas. So this entire narrative relies
- 1:10:48on a gender neutral proposition. Everything that we have seen from feminism relies on
- 1:10:57a gender neutral proposition. All these radical feminists who are suddenly popping up and
- 1:11:01turning back and saying but wait, they are doing so because their own what
- 1:11:09they were pushing has now come and bit them in the ass in the form
- 1:11:12of trans women. Got to realize this and you're not going to solve the
- 1:11:17problem by ignoring what women did. What these women did in order to destroy
- 1:11:25the notion of gender binary in order to promote the notion of patriarchal oppression.
- 1:11:32Yep, you got one or the other. You gotta make a choice.
- 1:11:36Yeah. I keep on mentioning this to like, because I do. I
- 1:11:41have done a lot of conservative talk radio spots, and I always mentioned this,
- 1:11:45like, you know when people say, well, when did this,
- 1:11:47you know start, you know, the trans thing, the gender ideology thing
- 1:11:55and all of this, like where did it come from? And I'm like,
- 1:11:57well, it came from second wave feminists, the very people who are
- 1:12:01complaining now that the very people that we call trans exclusionary radical feminists right who
- 1:12:08are complaining now, they're the ones who actually packed the Pandora's box and then
- 1:12:14insisted on opening it right and letting all this shit loose. And now they
- 1:12:18don't like the inevitable, predictable, entirely predictable results of what they created.
- 1:12:26Well, it was going on like a long time ago, and was it
- 1:12:30Graham She and some of these other people that wrote on this gender queer theory
- 1:12:33stuff and putting it in schools that's old that goes back to the sixties and
- 1:12:38seventies. So it's not like it's not like it just suddenly came out of
- 1:12:42nowhere. It's just that, you know, it takes like a generation or
- 1:12:45so to educate people and then all of a sudden you're dealing with this mess.
- 1:12:49So you should have been paying attention back then, is what I'm saying,
- 1:12:53paying attention to us. Yeah, like we were the first line of
- 1:12:57defense. We were the first people thrown into the abyss. And not not
- 1:13:01just us in particular, but those researchers and those advocates who were looking at
- 1:13:08the situation for men as a counter argument to this proposition that everything's get gender
- 1:13:15neutral and every gender difference is a result of patriarchal oppression. Yeah, well,
- 1:13:18I mean you look at you look at people like Warren Ferrell and Fred
- 1:13:21Hayward. And Fred Hayward, right, he was at the he was in
- 1:13:28the Red Pill movie. And you know people people like that, right,
- 1:13:34the old guard, right, the Paul Elam's right, the old guard of
- 1:13:39the men's movement, And you look at them, they were sounding the alarum
- 1:13:44back in the seventies and eighties, right, And but the rest of society.
- 1:13:50Basically, I think that they just kind of well, you know,
- 1:13:55what's what's the problem. It's just a few kooky women with some kocamamiam ideas
- 1:14:00in universities. Also, these ideas in some ways are very satisfying. We
- 1:14:04want to save women, we don't want to oh yeah, you know it's
- 1:14:09like we like this stuff. Well do you like this stuff that we're seeing
- 1:14:12now? Yeah? Yeah, no, And it's like, well we're getting
- 1:14:15the hangover now, oh yeah no, It's it's like we were drunk on
- 1:14:23you know, like any anybody who actually wants to read some really good stuff,
- 1:14:28right, they could google Adam Jones effacing the Male and also Adam Jones
- 1:14:41The Globe and Males, uh, which is about the Globe and Mail newspaper.
- 1:14:46But it's like he changed the male in the title is males in the
- 1:14:50title is u is male? As in sacks? Right? And and just
- 1:14:57read those just just read those things that were written like fuck more than a
- 1:15:05decade ago. I'm sure. I mean, these are people who have been
- 1:15:12quietly plugging away at perforating the narrative, right and actually showing us our own
- 1:15:18asses, right, Like, okay, we have a pro female by it,
- 1:15:26right, and you hear it constantly, women and children, women and
- 1:15:29children, women and children, women and children, women and children, right,
- 1:15:31And then you know somebody has the gall like Jordan Peterson has the gall
- 1:15:36to say, well, the reason why women are the way they are is
- 1:15:41because they didn't evolve as women. They evolved as the mother child diad.
- 1:15:45And everybody loses their fucking mind. Women don't have to have children. Yeah,
- 1:15:50but the only people who passed on their traits genetically were mothers, right,
- 1:15:59who didn't have children. They're evolutionarily irrelevant, right, None of their
- 1:16:06daughters inherited their traits because they didn't have any right. This is this is
- 1:16:13and we are so wrapped up in this idea of you know, women are
- 1:16:18super important and women are super vital, and women are super like they they
- 1:16:23they they are so competent and and you know that they're is so important to
- 1:16:30society. But at the same time, they're not responsible for anything, right,
- 1:16:35And you point it out and people are like, what, I just
- 1:16:38don't see it. I just don't see it. I don't know that women
- 1:16:45are so vital that if they walk off the job, everything collapses. But
- 1:16:48they shouldn't be held responsible for everything collapsing if they walk off the job.
- 1:16:54Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah? I know, and it's like it's
- 1:16:57like really and or they should be expected to make responsible decisions. Oh,
- 1:17:03we can't expect that of them, right, Oh, you know, welfare
- 1:17:09is it? I don't like it, but it's necessary because these poor women
- 1:17:14who got knocked up by the knock up fairy. Who's gonna pay for their
- 1:17:24children? Yeah? Well maybe they should have thought of that before they freaking
- 1:17:28opened their legs. Right. I got some super chows and super chats to
- 1:17:35recognize, so I'm gonna go ahead and do that really quick. Uh.
- 1:17:42First, I got a super chow from Great Indoors and he says Halloween is
- 1:17:47an appropriate time for some feminist howling do eat. Well, I'm sorry,
- 1:17:50I don't have I don't have that sound. So if you want, if
- 1:17:58you want, I think he's I can. If you want, I can,
- 1:18:01If you guys want, I can start my dogs up. Yeah,
- 1:18:10I can start. I can start my dog's howling. I I vote no,
- 1:18:16but you guys do it. No, No, I'll do it right
- 1:18:19now. I know you will. I'll do it right now. Oh Okay,
- 1:18:26no they're not interested. Dodged, dodge that bullet. All right,
- 1:18:32well, thank you great indoors. Sorry, I don't have anything for that.
- 1:18:39I also got a super chow from Sir Biggles. Sir Biggles bot and
- 1:18:47added the bot is added. Just the bot is what the bot is added
- 1:18:55somehow, Yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah? That what like
- 1:18:59the when it goes like he's not saying bought, he's like, oh,
- 1:19:02oh, oh I know what you Yeah, no, no, I know,
- 1:19:04I know. It's just Sir Biggles. Yeah, gives us fifty dollars
- 1:19:09and says, been listening to you since twenty sixteen. Keep up the goods
- 1:19:12work. May your hearts never fail. Well, thank you, Sir Biggles,
- 1:19:15really appreciate it. Then I got another one from ash Run for five
- 1:19:20dollars. Thank you so much, Thank you very much. That's really nice.
- 1:19:25Thank you. And he says with this twelve year old article, it's
- 1:19:28so hard to not see the similarity between current men's rights responses as poor men
- 1:19:32versus the quote this is what men's rights looks like end quote, ten to
- 1:19:38twelve years ago. Even now, we have gender studies arguing men's issues are
- 1:19:42rooted in misogyny. It's ridiculous. Yes, yeah, No, it's the
- 1:19:47more things changed, more they stay the same. And it's like it's exact.
- 1:19:51You know, there's only so much pointing out that you can do.
- 1:19:56I think there's going to have to be some kind of like actual real world
- 1:20:04reckoning. You know there is a real world reckoning happening. No, not
- 1:20:09yet, what that we're on walking towards World War three? Well, no
- 1:20:15world war reckoning. I only think it's world War three. It's just the
- 1:20:19end of the petro dollar. Yeah, no, it's it's the end of
- 1:20:24the US dollars as the global reserve currency, the end of the petro dollar.
- 1:20:32Three different scenarios that could actually escalate into world wars. Thirty three point
- 1:20:43six trillion dollars of US debt and growing you have you have, Sorry,
- 1:20:53Justin Trudeau increased the money supply in Canada by thirty over twenty twenty and twenty
- 1:21:00twenty one, and now he's like, WHOA, where's all this inflation coming
- 1:21:05from? Right? Okay? And it's like food is projected there are projected
- 1:21:13to be global food shortfalls, and from what I see, nobody's curtailing how
- 1:21:19much food they waste, or very few people are curtailing how much food they
- 1:21:25waste. So it's like I'm looking at it and I'm thinking, you know,
- 1:21:30like we have these ossified systems of government. Government can never do anything
- 1:21:38efficiently. The federal government in Canada decided that they were going to do a
- 1:21:44federal housing program, right, so the federal government was going to get involved
- 1:21:49in housing development across the country here in Canada, and rents have doubled in
- 1:21:59the two years since Justin Trudeau announced that. And now he's saying, well,
- 1:22:03the federal government has no business in housing, right because yeah no,
- 1:22:09He's like, oh fuck, I fucked up, and and he's like,
- 1:22:14yeah no, not my fault. The federal government really has no housing.
- 1:22:17And I'm just like, and then you got all you got all these retards
- 1:22:21out here going oh, I'll vote m DP because they want to increase entitlements,
- 1:22:29and I'm like, where where's the fucking money coming from? H Like
- 1:22:34it just can we can we stop thinking about money and start thinking about bushels
- 1:22:43of wheat? Okay? Can we can we start thinking about bushels of wheat?
- 1:22:46Because money is just a representation of productivity or product. Right, it's
- 1:22:57just a representation of goods and services. You You can print all of the
- 1:23:02money you want, right. If you're handing out people handing people money for
- 1:23:09free and they're not doing anything producing anything labor or product to work for it
- 1:23:16to earn it, then what are they going to buy with it? Nothing?
- 1:23:20People don't seem to like. I had this very brief argument with I
- 1:23:26guess as socialist on Twitter, and he was like, well, you know,
- 1:23:30they're print money and everybody gets a UBI and I'm like, but that
- 1:23:32doesn't make people wealthy. What makes people wealthy is the productivity of your neighbor.
- 1:23:38Is Like, if you think about yourself and yourself, what it's money
- 1:23:44is just products, just the ability to get products. But if you don't
- 1:23:47have products to get, the money is just going to chase fewer and fewer
- 1:23:51things. Yea. The productivity increase of factory workers in like the eighteenth century,
- 1:23:59eighteenth and nineteen tenth century is what elevated people out of poverty because now
- 1:24:03you had one hundred widgets that you could you were making one hundred widgets a
- 1:24:10year that you could give or end up putting into the material economy, and
- 1:24:16you and your neighbors had access to money just facilitates that. Yeah, No,
- 1:24:23I remember, I remember learning in elementary school and I think it was
- 1:24:27grade six. They played us a bunch of radio plays about some teenagers who
- 1:24:32found themselves stranded on a desert island and they had to build an economy,
- 1:24:38and their initial economy was solely barter, right, it was just barter this
- 1:24:45for that, and then they developed a money system, right, a currency
- 1:24:49system, and because that just makes it easier, you know, like you
- 1:24:56don't have to go around with your dead bird saying, you know, do
- 1:25:01you need a dead bird today? Because I could really use some of those
- 1:25:05berries you picked, right, Okay, it just improves the efficiency of the
- 1:25:13economy, right, to have fungible money and or a fungible currency. But
- 1:25:19like money is just paper. It's just a representation of what you can purchase
- 1:25:30with it, and people don't understand that, Oh just print more money,
- 1:25:32yeah, oh yeah, and what are you gonna buy with it? Nothing?
- 1:25:38If the shelves are empty, The shelves are empty. So I got
- 1:25:45another super chat from Albernita Retro and he says, here's five thanks for the
- 1:25:56content, thank you, And I think he meant to say content, but
- 1:26:01I wanted to read it exactly as it's written, because I'm a dick like
- 1:26:04that. And then I got a super chow but it's kind of big,
- 1:26:09so you're not gonna see the whole thing. So I'm just putting it up
- 1:26:12there so you guys can see it. But I'll read it out here.
- 1:26:14Loquacious primate. Don't show the image. No, I'm not. I can't
- 1:26:20show the image. Okay, Oh yeah, I see. Yeah, that's
- 1:26:26that's interesting, says I wanted to assure Alison that you aren't all screaming into
- 1:26:30the void when I saw this piece of artwork, which is in the discord.
- 1:26:34Sorry, that's the only way you're gonna see it. I guess there's
- 1:26:36a link. You guys could potentially like type the whole thing in if you're
- 1:26:41fast enough. By artist Amanda Sage, I thought of you. I don't
- 1:26:44know her personally or her politics. I think I can tell by looking.
- 1:26:48But the title refers to a supposedly ancient Indian practice of lifting up skirts to
- 1:26:53ward off war. While one could see it as a feminist gesture, I
- 1:26:56found it interesting because it acknowledges the power of the feminine over the social world
- 1:27:00in a direct and not always comfortable to look at that, to look at
- 1:27:04way, all right, thank you. That's an awfully afy landscaped punani there.
- 1:27:13Yeah, like for for for for an ancient Indian woman. That's got
- 1:27:18some serious land seriously modern landscaping going on. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind
- 1:27:25of demonic, but you know, yeah it's also kind of demonic. And
- 1:27:28yeah it's pretty demonic. Oh, it doesn't look like an orchid with dewey
- 1:27:33petals. No, it looks like something. It looks like something puking spider
- 1:27:39webs. Yeah, okay, it's not it is. Okay, let's keep
- 1:27:45going, all right, that would be a note back back to the article.
- 1:27:49Yeah, that's a note for me, dog okay. Uh. Dean
- 1:27:57offers up some token men, but of Jeff Hearn and Michael Kimmel have paved
- 1:28:01the way for increasing numbers of men to contribute to academic gender studies, So
- 1:28:06which issues of these academics actually discuss class and racial inequalities between men, The
- 1:28:13causes and consequences of male violence, the lived experiences of different kinds of male
- 1:28:16sexuality, and the ways in which ideas of masculinity influenced social and political thoughts,
- 1:28:21so discussions of male violence, but not female on male violence. I
- 1:28:27can I I want to say something to this because I know that since like
- 1:28:30Michael Kimmel came up probably and I know that Allison got into it with the
- 1:28:33other guy, Michael Michael Kimmel, Jeff her No, no, no,
- 1:28:42the blood. Yes, I've gotten into it when you got into it with
- 1:28:47Michael Flood. But because actually yeah, actually with Michael Flood. At one
- 1:28:54point I showed him, like U researchers who had replicated or rep dellicated his
- 1:29:01premise I don't know what to call it, and had found it to actually
- 1:29:05not like not play out the way he said it would. And he was
- 1:29:09like, oh, I've never seen this before. I'm like, you don't
- 1:29:12pay attention to your home critics or not even critics. These these these people
- 1:29:17would died in the world pro flood premise people, but they couldn't make it
- 1:29:23work. Well, here's the thing that I wanted to mention, because I
- 1:29:29think it's related. Obviously, people like Michael Kimmel and other male feminist types
- 1:29:36that claim to care about men, they will invoke racial differences. Well you
- 1:29:44know, they'll they'll talk about black men's experiences, and they'll talk about like,
- 1:29:47I don't know, Pakistani men or whatever, just not white gay men.
- 1:29:53Yeah, yeah, queer men, gay men, trans women. They
- 1:29:57basically will intersect and stay away from treating men as a whole and instead focus
- 1:30:04on intersections. And this is something that I don't know that people can see
- 1:30:10what's happening. But when they do that, they are first of all,
- 1:30:14taking away the male identity from all those men's, all those subgroups of men,
- 1:30:19because they're not acknowledging them as men. And to sort of further drive
- 1:30:25this home, because I've talked to people who care about men supposedly, but
- 1:30:30they don't. They care less about men if those men are white, and
- 1:30:33more about men if those men are black, for example, which is stupid
- 1:30:36because they're all men. And if you start playing that game, you will
- 1:30:41always lose. Because this is the game that these people play. This is
- 1:30:45the intersectional game. Intersectionality exists to erase men from the equation because they're always
- 1:30:51the last thing considered. They're always at the bottom of the totem pole.
- 1:30:56It doesn't matter, right, So I spoke, well, let me finished.
- 1:31:00So I watched this Chris Williamson, I like his channel most of the
- 1:31:04time he is talking about these issues. And he had a guy on and
- 1:31:08they were talking about like, uh no, I'm sorry, it wasn't Chris
- 1:31:12Williamson. It was it was uh Nolan will Noland, Okay, who is
- 1:31:17like this teacher in the UK that you know, talked about men's issues.
- 1:31:20I had him on the show once he lost his job. It was like
- 1:31:23a while ago, and he had a guy on there and they were talking
- 1:31:26about how to beat feminism, right, They were like talking about how to
- 1:31:28defeat it, and the guy was saying that what we need to do is
- 1:31:32it's black men that have to like be the bulwark. They have to like
- 1:31:36because they're the they're the Canadian, Canarian the coal mine, right, And
- 1:31:40I'm like listening to that, I'm like, all of this is true.
- 1:31:43Like obviously, if you want to see what's what the state of the rest
- 1:31:46of the world is, look at the black population, especially in the United
- 1:31:49States, although not exclusively, and see where that is. Look at the
- 1:31:54fatherlessness, look at the the murders you know between you know it within the
- 1:32:00the gang, the gang population, the teenage pregnancy, the abortion rates,
- 1:32:03the poverty, all of that stuff, Okay, this is they take the
- 1:32:08fathers out, women marry the state, and this is what you get.
- 1:32:12And the black population is where it started. And obviously I've been saying this
- 1:32:15for years and years and years and years as the cause. But this guy
- 1:32:20was saying, all we gotta do is get black men on board. But
- 1:32:24what he doesn't realize is that if you are if you are black and you
- 1:32:30grow up in and or just a minority of any kind, because we're all
- 1:32:32bombarded with this propaganda black men, if you tell them here's what's going on,
- 1:32:36they're going to the problem is is that they've been conditioned to see themselves
- 1:32:41as black before they see themselves as men. So they're going to they've been
- 1:32:45conditioned to attribute all of their problems to white supremacy or whatever. You know,
- 1:32:50you can you could just move, you move into a different department and
- 1:32:54you just say, oh, it's you know, Mexicans have this problem,
- 1:32:57or Latinos have this problem because of racism, muslim men have this problem because
- 1:33:00of aslamophobia, trans women have this problem because of transphobia, et cetera.
- 1:33:05So it's all designed to keep you from seeing what's really happening. And so
- 1:33:11I told well. I didn't tell them obviously, but I put a comment.
- 1:33:14I said, look, until black men stop seeing themselves as black and
- 1:33:18see themselves as men, this is never going to change. Never because their
- 1:33:26racial identity, which they have been conditioned like over generations repeatedly to see themselves
- 1:33:32as that first, is the thing that will ensure that they won't be able
- 1:33:36to work with other men of other races and ethnic backgrounds and sexual orientations to
- 1:33:43change things. This is the by design they're supposed to keep them apart.
- 1:33:46This is why black men and there's like hostility between the races that's been fermented
- 1:33:54so that black men and white men and Latino men and Asian men don't work
- 1:33:57together. And so because they don't see themselves as men, because men don't
- 1:34:01tend they don't have a brotherhood in the same way that women have a sisterhood.
- 1:34:06They see themselves as individuals more likely, so they're less likely to do
- 1:34:11that, but they have been conditioned to see themselves through the lens of race.
- 1:34:15This is the problem. So until there's a way to get black men
- 1:34:20to stop seeing themselves as black men and see themselves instead as men and then
- 1:34:27go to other men and say, hey, are you also having problems with
- 1:34:30you know, insert male issue here, Then what you'll be able to work
- 1:34:33together? So this is supposed to keep this is I think this is designed
- 1:34:38to keep people apart. This is why I don't like the likes of Jeff
- 1:34:42Hearn, Michael Kimmel, Michael Flood, and some of these other guys that
- 1:34:45are out here, you know, saying oh, yeah I care about men,
- 1:34:47but you know I care more about men of this type or that type.
- 1:34:51It's like, no, you either care about them all and you want
- 1:34:54to deal with all of it and you want to treat it like one big
- 1:34:57problem or you don't really care about any because you're gonna play these you're gonna
- 1:35:00play these games where you're putting this this type. Yeah, you're gonna end
- 1:35:03up playing feminist games and you will lose because it's it's been set up that
- 1:35:09way, so you have to like throw all of it out. So anyway,
- 1:35:12that's what I wanted to say about that. Yeah, No, it's
- 1:35:15it's like it's like when when I when the you remember the the old failed
- 1:35:21term curiarchy, you guys, that's the kariarchy. Yeah, yeah, no,
- 1:35:28thatchy, And I was like, okay, so, how's that different
- 1:35:30from patriarchy At the end of the day, it's not intersectional. And I
- 1:35:35was like, oh, so you took a bowl of lettuce and you called
- 1:35:38it a salad, patriarchy salad, right, and then you added a few
- 1:35:43mandarin orange slices, cash shoes, and sesame seeds and and some grilled chicken,
- 1:35:49and now it's no longer salad. Like what, No, the base
- 1:35:55of the the theory, the base of the meal is still ol the fucking
- 1:36:00lettuce, right, It's still based on male privilege and female oppression. And
- 1:36:04until you actually wipe out those, it's you know, you might as well
- 1:36:10just take a house with a broken foundation that's sinking, right, and just
- 1:36:15well just keep putting more plaster on the cracks in the walls and and uh,
- 1:36:19you know that saft spot on the floor, Just just push the TV
- 1:36:23stand over top of it so that nobody steps on it and falls through the
- 1:36:28floor, and and it's still a good house. Right. No, No,
- 1:36:31you gotta bulldoze the whole fucking thing and rebuilding the foundation. You got
- 1:36:38to rebuild the foundation at least, don't build something with greater weight on the
- 1:36:42on it, thinking that that's going to solve the foundation issues. Yeah,
- 1:36:45but yeah, that's like the the the whole thing about intersectionality is it does
- 1:36:49divide men into these groups and keeps them keep each other identify together. They're
- 1:37:00victimhood, they identify, and men have a tendency to not want to see
- 1:37:05an association with vulnerability and their masculinity, like the fond they don't. So
- 1:37:11this is also buying into like just a natural psychological rejection of that connection in
- 1:37:16men. But yeah, it's if you don't, if they don't start to
- 1:37:20realize that what feminists are calling intersectionality is just different manifestations of male disposability.
- 1:37:30Yep, well it's it's it's often the same manifestation to different degrees, right,
- 1:37:35because look at trans women. Look at transwomen. Now, what is
- 1:37:40the progression here? And I'm not talking about the women who would have always
- 1:37:43had gender deuphoria throughout history, but the progression is that women took over men's
- 1:37:49role. And they said that that role that men do is a result of
- 1:37:54oppressing women and excluding them from this activity, not an activity that naturally comes
- 1:38:00out of masculinity and masculine virtues, Which is not to say that women can't
- 1:38:03take part, but generally they're more masculine if they do, or masculinely orientate
- 1:38:09it. So they said, no, this isn't, this isn't. These
- 1:38:13meritocratic fields aren't a manifestation of men's desire to work cooperative, compete, cooperative,
- 1:38:21cooperatively over who is able to achieve a goal. And I wanted to
- 1:38:26say that men have brotherhood around goals, whereas women sisterhood around identity. But
- 1:38:31they want to compete cooperatively towards achieving a goal. Right, this is something
- 1:38:39that comes out of them, their masculinity, So it's something a part of
- 1:38:43their identity and their self and their toolkit for dealing with the world. But
- 1:38:48we can't recognize that. We have to take that away from men and say
- 1:38:53no, this is actually the exclusion of women's ways of knowing its oppression.
- 1:38:58And then what comes out of that men are left without a recognized identity.
- 1:39:03You're gonna have men who are marginal in whatever way. And I'm not talking
- 1:39:09about like again, the women who would have gender us for you, the
- 1:39:13trans women who exist in every society and throughout history. I'm talking about the
- 1:39:17trans trenders. They have been excluded from their own role. They are gender
- 1:39:24refugees. That is a manifestation of male expendability. And the transphobia against trans
- 1:39:34women comes from this expectation of conservatives, mostly that men assume a role that
- 1:39:43they have been shamed out of assuming by feminists. Yeah. Yeah, no,
- 1:39:47it is the ultimate catch twenty two. If you're not useful to society,
- 1:39:53then you need to go pound stand and nobody has to care about you.
- 1:39:57Right. But if you are useful to society in the ways that actually
- 1:40:01matter, right, that that actually create productivity, then you're stealing something from
- 1:40:09a more deserving woman. Yeah, you're you're you're not expressing the unique thing
- 1:40:15that you that as a man, as someone who's masculine, you give to
- 1:40:17society. You're actually just depressing women and stealing from them. So in being
- 1:40:23producing something, you're actually stealing. This is the message I know, I
- 1:40:28know, and it's the message that men get, and this is why they've
- 1:40:30been treated expendable. Yeah no, And this is this is why I yelled
- 1:40:34at Michael Kimmel in right is you know, like because they throw around like
- 1:40:41you know, I took issue with toxic the term toxic masculinity He's like,
- 1:40:45well, you just don't understand what it means. You know, maybe you
- 1:40:46should take a women's studies course. And I was like, okay, but
- 1:40:54you throw that word around like confetti, like it like it. It's like,
- 1:40:59it's completely harmless. If a grown ass adult with access to the internet
- 1:41:04needs to take a women's studies course to truly understand what you mean by that,
- 1:41:09why are you throwing that term around eight year old boys? Because I
- 1:41:15can guarantee you they haven't taken a gender studies program to understand the nuance and
- 1:41:21that you don't mean anything you know mean by it or anything all I mean
- 1:41:26by nuances. They just don't want to take responsibility for the abusiveness of the
- 1:41:30term. Yeah. Yeah, you can prove the abusiveness of the term because
- 1:41:38when I did my beach at SFU on toxic femininity, all the fucking feminists
- 1:41:43lost their freaking minds. Yeah, well, I mean, marry you put
- 1:41:47those two words together, and yet men have to deal with it. And
- 1:41:51here's the thing, Like, it's like a person with a freaking baseball bat
- 1:41:57who hits you in the head, and you're like, you hit me in
- 1:42:00the head with a baseball bat, and they're like, but there's nuance here.
- 1:42:03I hit you in the head because I wanted you to do something,
- 1:42:06It's not because I wanted you to be in pain. Yeah. And it's
- 1:42:11like that's the entire discourse around that so called nuance of toxic masculinity. I
- 1:42:16know, I know, it's it's it's it's really infuriating because you know,
- 1:42:19like I I literally they that the Women's Society at SFU or the Feminist Society,
- 1:42:28they were just so outraged they you know, published an open letter condemning
- 1:42:32my speech right before anybody had even you know, bothered to like find out
- 1:42:40what I might have been wanting to talk about, right, And and it's
- 1:42:45like, you know, ooh, that's implying that femininity is toxic. And
- 1:42:50and I'm like, oh, but whenever men say that the term toxic masculinity
- 1:43:00makes them feel like you're saying that masculinity is toxic, right, You're like,
- 1:43:04oh, pshaw, that's not what we mean by it at all.
- 1:43:09Actually, you're a misogynist for even saying so, yeah, for even thinking
- 1:43:14about that. You know, far be it from a woman. We are
- 1:43:17morally perfect from implying that masculinity is toxic. No. What we're saying is
- 1:43:26that masculinity is that's no quality that aren't toxic. There you go, and
- 1:43:32there you go, that's the perfect, the perfect. Yeah no, And
- 1:43:38I'm just like, oh god, I hate this. I hate that we
- 1:43:42have this narrative in like I said, I don't mind rivalry. I don't
- 1:43:47mind you know, men and women being the bickersons, right, you know,
- 1:43:53I don't mind Pope, men and women poke in fun at each other's
- 1:43:56foibles, right, finding fault with each other's faults, right, all of
- 1:44:01those things. I have no problem with that. What I have a problem
- 1:44:05with is the fact that it's so one sided. You are allowed to bash
- 1:44:10men and bash them, not not just criticize them, but bash them.
- 1:44:17You're not even allowed. Okay, he's walking, he's leaving. Oh good
- 1:44:24thing I had you here. Otherwise the maleman wouldn't have like moved on.
- 1:44:30He would have taken over your entire house. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah,
- 1:44:33no, that's what he does. That's why he comes here. Oh
- 1:44:41he's not leaving quick enough. He's at the neighbor's house now. But but
- 1:44:46yeah, no, like it's you you have a situation where like it's not
- 1:44:51allowed to go both ways. It's not just about you know, kind of
- 1:44:56that poking fun, pointing out flow, kind of kind of like the Russell
- 1:45:04Peters brand of comedy where he talks about he does all the different accents,
- 1:45:11you know, Jamaican, Indian, Chinese, right, like the Hong Kong
- 1:45:15accent and all of that, and talks about you know, like, okay,
- 1:45:18you want to see some crazy, you know, just have an Indian
- 1:45:23guy go into a Chinese shop and argue over price because the Indian guy he
- 1:45:30wants to pay zero and the Chinese guy wants to get every penny out of
- 1:45:35you that he can. And this is not a relationship that's going to work
- 1:45:40out, right, And yeah, no, So, I mean these are
- 1:45:44truths culturally, and there are truths biologically about men and women, and you
- 1:45:49can poke fun at all of those things, right, except you can't.
- 1:45:56Except it only goes one way. And it's not just joking. When feminists
- 1:46:00do it, meant it's mean. It's mean, and it's cruel, and
- 1:46:05it's debasing and it's degrading, and it's meant to demoralize. It's not meant
- 1:46:11to just make people laugh and uh and go oh yeah, it's funny because
- 1:46:16it's true. You know, that's not what it's meant as. It's not
- 1:46:24meant that way. And and I hate it. I hate it. I
- 1:46:27hate it. It's a it's a it's a society wide splander. Yeah,
- 1:46:31I would agree with that. All right, let's read a little bit more
- 1:46:34of this, all right, let's read. Yeah, let's go back to
- 1:46:40how how far are we going in? I don't know, I don't know,
- 1:46:43I don't know. So anyway, Dean, oh, this is the
- 1:46:48last paragraph. I think Dean is effectively admitting the bias the gender orthodoxy refuses
- 1:46:55to mention all those people fighting for equality in the Father's rights movement are all
- 1:46:59those men enslaved in conscription or men's shorter life expectancies. I enrolled at l
- 1:47:04S's elite Gender Institute to learn how best to combat discrimination in a world which
- 1:47:10verbalizes four times and more sexism against men than it does against women. It's
- 1:47:15high time gender studies get set a better example so we might all emulate it.
- 1:47:19Those are rookie numbers. Four times. I think it's probably more like
- 1:47:24four hundred times now at this point. Yeah, it's twelve years later,
- 1:47:28and we've only done we've only gone further. Well, and you know as
- 1:47:34well, when you actually look at how people take things, right, how
- 1:47:39people perceive things, I think that four times as much missondry even back then,
- 1:47:49Right, you have to be really blatantly misinderous in order for it to
- 1:47:56even register as man hating. Right, Whereas you just have to tell a
- 1:48:01woman she's pretty and she will and that's considered misogyny, or ask her to
- 1:48:08smile, right, or accidentally, uh not close your legs when she sits
- 1:48:15next to you on the subway, right, just not notice you're busy texting
- 1:48:20on your phone. You know, all all of these, you know,
- 1:48:24like when in order for something to register as miss injury, it has to
- 1:48:29be a macro aggression, is what I'm saying. And that was the case
- 1:48:34back then too, right, it has to be really blatant. And so
- 1:48:41I don't I don't think that four times as much is a good measure.
- 1:48:48It's I don't think that it's I wonder how measure? Well, it was
- 1:48:53probably like from a sociological study or something like that, right, Yeah,
- 1:48:59But you know, like the problem with one of the problems with feminist false
- 1:49:05false accusation is that it sets the baseline for miss inery really high. And
- 1:49:12the reason why is because they justify intense amounts of mysingry like blaming men for
- 1:49:17blaming men for everything that's wrong in society but not everything that's not giving them
- 1:49:21credit for everything that's right. Yeah, like that's they deserve it, and
- 1:49:27they we have this whole artifice of unscientific reasoning to justify it, and so
- 1:49:32they feel like a certain amount, they feel like, you know, they
- 1:49:35get they get at least ninety percent missionry free, if that makes sense.
- 1:49:40Like that? The first, uh, the first I don't know, how
- 1:49:45would you define it? The first I don't know unit measurement of mysionry.
- 1:49:54The first ninety unit measurements of mysagery are free because men are responsible for strrible
- 1:49:59at tra against women, which isn't itself recognized as missonry. The fact that
- 1:50:03we even have a narrative justifying treating men like ship because of their alleged treating
- 1:50:08women like shit. Yeah no, and it's and and you know, when
- 1:50:13you can when you can turn around and justify this is using statistics on types
- 1:50:16of violence that women also engage in against men. Do you guys hear me?
- 1:50:20Am I hearing you? No? Do you not hear us? Okay,
- 1:50:28well what what I'm what? Yeah, you know, okay, what
- 1:50:30I would say. What I would say is that you know, when you
- 1:50:33have when you have a an already entrenched field of you know, alleged study
- 1:50:43that uh pause, its that treating women better than you treat men, caring
- 1:50:48about their problems more than you care about men's problems, right, wanting to
- 1:50:54be nicer to women than you are to men. Right, And this is
- 1:50:58true of both men and women. That having more positive feelings about women than
- 1:51:04you have about men. Right, That this is actually misogyny because benevolent sexism
- 1:51:13is indeed a form of misogyny. Right. If you can actually turn missonry
- 1:51:18into a form of misogyny, right, the root cause of miss indry is
- 1:51:24actually misogyny. Missonry is just secondary misogyny or or a byproduct of misogyny.
- 1:51:33Right. When you have that kind of narrative that's already entrenched not just in
- 1:51:39academia, but in the media, in you know, in any kind of
- 1:51:45communications field hr Right, all of these areas, the law, right,
- 1:51:54all the government, all of these areas. When you have that, then
- 1:52:00how can you possibly be able to measure the one against the other in any
- 1:52:08kind of fair way, because even when you're treating women good, you're treating
- 1:52:12them bad. And when you're treating men bad, it's just what they deserve
- 1:52:16because they are bad. It's not manating, it's just it's just criticizing bad
- 1:52:21behavior. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, there's the bar for
- 1:52:29missonry has been set so high because missonry is almost like this compulsion that we
- 1:52:36have the fact that we've constructed this entire narrative in which men are to blame
- 1:52:42for societies woes but not for society's you know, excellence and achievements. It's
- 1:52:49just all right. Well, I do want to just tell everyone we are
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- 1:53:43read your comment at the next reasonable show. Shoe all right? Who really
- 1:53:48big shoe? Really really big shoe? All right? So, Brian,
- 1:53:55did you have any final words on this? I just it's been twelve years.
- 1:53:58I know we will do in the same story sing it well, I
- 1:54:01got I did get another super chow. So I wanted to shout out to
- 1:54:08ash Run for five dollars. Thank you ash Run. And he says,
- 1:54:15we know the amount of ads we see every day on average, this is
- 1:54:17four to six thousand. It could be an idea to count to amount of
- 1:54:23mystery Emanci's every day by just using social media. I would not be surprised.
- 1:54:27On Instagram if it will ramp up to fifty to one hundred anti mail
- 1:54:30or mail bashing posts per day or more, imagine the effect it has on
- 1:54:34men, thank you, ah asthron asthron. Imagine what if we had a
- 1:54:41future in which miss injury wasn't considered to be socially acceptable. Imagine looking back
- 1:54:46at this society like it it hopefully that they will also have solved that whole
- 1:54:53judging the past harshly. But I'd imagine that this is not going to age.
- 1:54:59Well no, no, no, no, this is definitely like these
- 1:55:04people are experiencing. They don't know it yet, but this is sunk and
- 1:55:08cost fallacy and action. Like by the time everything goes to shit, they're
- 1:55:12gonna look back and say what the fuck have I done? And that?
- 1:55:15But in the meantime, they'll never I mean, it's gonna be it's not
- 1:55:18easy. It's easy to wrong, and it's especially not easy for women to
- 1:55:24admit that they're wrong. Yeah, but and and the feminists are gonna say,
- 1:55:28are gonna basically do the equivalent of saying, why did you let us
- 1:55:31do that? Yeah? Exactly? Of course that everything's on fire, Yeah
- 1:55:38yeah, exactly, No, for sure, it's like you know that you've
- 1:55:41seen that like TikTok video of the woman who went on a date with a
- 1:55:45man she made a little TikTok video, and she said all these positive things
- 1:55:49about him, that he was very polite and nice, and he looked he
- 1:55:53was handsome and tall, he had everything that she wanted, but she just
- 1:55:57didn't feel like he had any husband vibes. She wasn't getting husband vibes.
- 1:56:00So she said, you know that she they're not going to see each other
- 1:56:04anymore. She can't see him anymore. And he said okay, and just
- 1:56:06like left it at that. He's like, all right, bitch and that,
- 1:56:10and then she was upset, like, why didn't he like try to
- 1:56:13convince me otherwise? Why didn't he fight for me? Yeah? I mean,
- 1:56:18oh yeah, no. My husband, my husband got kicked out of
- 1:56:21he was living in a co op with a bunch of freaking university students,
- 1:56:25like freaking hippyish people and uh and he just he just his ex had just
- 1:56:31dumped him. And and so there were these two girls who in the house
- 1:56:38who were interested in him, and and they both propositioned him, and he
- 1:56:44was like, well, I'm I'm not I can't, I'm not ready to
- 1:56:47get into a relationship. But you know, I am a hyper sexual male,
- 1:56:51right and he really is, and you know, so I wouldn't mind
- 1:56:58some something something on the side, right, friends with benefits, And at
- 1:57:02one point they even talked him into a threesome with the two of them.
- 1:57:08M hm and uh. And that went on until one day he knocks on
- 1:57:13one of the doors and oakes his head inside and says, you feel like
- 1:57:17some company night, And she's like, no thanks. So he's like,
- 1:57:20oh okay, and he goes across the hall and focks the other one.
- 1:57:26And that was when he got kicked out of that house. Mmm. Yeah,
- 1:57:30actually abiding by the rules laid down. Yeah. Oh man, Well,
- 1:57:38you know, I guess the but she said he wasn't husband, didn't
- 1:57:43have a husband vibe, So wasn't it ultimately to her benefit that he was
- 1:57:46like, yeah, no, don't waste more time on me. Yeah,
- 1:57:50yeah, don't waste more time on me. I'm gonna move on. I
- 1:57:53wonder how many how many women since then? He's uh, hopefully he's he's
- 1:57:58found a woman who considers him husband material, isn't going to play these stupid
- 1:58:03games. Yeah, well, or or even if even if he isn't husband
- 1:58:09material, it's like, okay, so why would you want to stay with
- 1:58:14him? Man? If you're looking for a husband, why would you want
- 1:58:16to stay and waste six months or a year or whatever of your valuable youth?
- 1:58:25Uh, trying to convert him into husband material. It's like like,
- 1:58:32I'm sorry, but I even with even with my husband, right, I
- 1:58:38don't think that he was husband material in the sense of h He was still
- 1:58:44recovering from the breakup, and he was still having a lot of problems.
- 1:58:47But one of the things that he did tell me was, you know,
- 1:58:51because I asked him, you know, if if she hadn't broken up with
- 1:58:56you, you know, how long would you have stayed with her? And
- 1:59:00he was like, oh forever, There's no question about that. I was
- 1:59:05like, okay, husband material. Huh, all right, well there you
- 1:59:11go. All right? Sorry, did I read that super chat? Oh?
- 1:59:15Yeah, I did know. There's another one as another one? Yeah,
- 1:59:17I thought there was a loquacious primate gives us five dollars, Thank you,
- 1:59:21loquacious Primate and says sorry. If that image was hard to look at,
- 1:59:27it was even more disturbing in person. While I'm not sure the artist
- 1:59:30thought of it this way, I saw it as an acknowledgment that women can
- 1:59:33move societies towards or away from war. Rather than just passive or oppressed victims
- 1:59:38of masculine war. Agreed, agreed, And I you know now I haven't
- 1:59:45seen it. I haven't looked at it. I'm going to need you to
- 1:59:48send me the link. It's in the super child channel. But yeah,
- 1:59:54it's I'll I don't know, I'll drop it in a live show. I'll
- 1:59:58just make a copy of it. So if you had a live show like
- 2:00:00text chat, you should be able to see it. Now. Oh okay,
- 2:00:05all right, I'm not gonna look yet. Yeah, I need to
- 2:00:11eat something and sure it. Yeah, you know, I've been warned,
- 2:00:18but I will come back and look at it later. All right, let's
- 2:00:21close this thing out. Yeah okay, So Alison, should I just get
- 2:00:29in there now or what? Or do you have to say something else?
- 2:00:31I know, I just want to remind everyone that we are doing a monthly
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- 2:01:09please please share this video because sharing is caring. Thank you guys so much
- 2:01:12for coming on today's episode of The Rant Zirker, and we will talk to
- 2:01:15you all in the next Did you ask did you do that intro? Or
- 2:01:16no? Remember you doing the intro? Maybe I was doing something else.
- 2:01:20I did do the intro? Did okay? I did it perfectly and you
- 2:01:26didn't. Yeah, I was. I was. I'm in the back room.
- 2:01:30I'm always I'm in the back room doing stuff something that doesn't the first
- 2:01:34time. The first time, you didn't screw it up and he wasn't there
- 2:01:38to witness. I wasn't. I was okay. Well that's all that really
- 2:01:42matters, all right, anyway, thanks guys for coming on the show.
- 2:01:45We'll talk to you all in the next one.