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BONUS: Wired To Hunt’s Rut Radio 11/30/16 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Mark Kenyon of Wired to Hunt,
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Speaker 1: and we're here today for our final episode of Wired
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Speaker 1: to Hunt's ut radio here in two thousand and sixteen,
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Speaker 1: where we have been checking in every week for the
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Speaker 1: past six or seven weeks now with hunters from all
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Speaker 1: across the country to hear about running activity and reports,
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Speaker 1: what's been happening, what's been working, and all that kind
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Speaker 1: of good stuff. So, Spencer, you've been kind of leading
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Speaker 1: the charge for us on this one, and I first
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Speaker 1: and foremost want to thank you for doing such an
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Speaker 1: awesome job with us and checking with people all over
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Speaker 1: the place and getting this kind of intel I know,
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Speaker 1: for me personally and from a lot of other people
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Speaker 1: out there listening, this has been really helpful. So so
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Speaker 1: where to go. Man, Thanks, I appreciate that. And uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not a chore. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is a ton of fun to talk to these people,
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Speaker 1: and every week, you know, get to I feel like,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm sitting in there tree stands sometimes when
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Speaker 1: I get to hear about the the encounters that they're
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Speaker 1: having and stuff like that, and you know, take that
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Speaker 1: as another piece of the pause as to how I
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Speaker 1: should be hunting in my home state of South Dakota. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So so you've talked to I don't know, dozens of
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Speaker 1: different hunters now over the course of this kind of
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Speaker 1: mini series, and you've been getting all that running intel
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Speaker 1: and stuff. Do you think that you were you able
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Speaker 1: to apply anything you heard from these other guys to
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Speaker 1: your own hunts? You know, did you have any example
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Speaker 1: where such and such was like, hey, you know, I
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Speaker 1: really think it's starting to pick up or X was
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Speaker 1: working and you thought about that in your own hunts.
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Speaker 1: Were you able to do anything like that? Because I know,
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Speaker 1: for me personally, I start picking up on some of
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Speaker 1: the things I was hearing from guys and applying it
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Speaker 1: to some shifts in my strategy. Yeah. I think one
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Speaker 1: thing in particular was I've always kind of felt like,
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Speaker 1: you know, the rut seems like it has these hard
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Speaker 1: boundaries of when it starts, when it ends, when this
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Speaker 1: phase is going, stuff like that. But this kind of
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Speaker 1: made me learn that it's so so fluid. Um, not
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Speaker 1: just across the nation, but even incredibly local. Um for
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Speaker 1: me talking to these people at on North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa,
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Speaker 1: a Braska, stuff like that. UM, I would agree with
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Speaker 1: him one week and then discreet the next week. Um.
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Speaker 1: But then you know, it could be on both fronts
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Speaker 1: where I would feel the movement was much better, but
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Speaker 1: they would feel is a lot worse. UM. Stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: It made me realize that you just have to be
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Speaker 1: out there. I guess that there's no one amazing three
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Speaker 1: days stretch all the time where you're gonna be out
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Speaker 1: there and you're gonna kill a deer. Yeah. That that
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Speaker 1: for me, like every year I'm reminded of it, but
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Speaker 1: then the next year I go back into the season
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Speaker 1: forgetting it. It's that the rut, it just it never
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Speaker 1: seems to be as advertised, like it's never going to
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Speaker 1: be two in two or three weeks of this NonStop
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Speaker 1: action and incredible hunting. It sees, you know, long periods
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Speaker 1: of you know, just nothing and then little bursts of
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Speaker 1: that kind of activity. If you happen to be in
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Speaker 1: the right place at the right time with the right deer,
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Speaker 1: then you get that magic. But you know, it's it's
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Speaker 1: really hard to guess when that's going to be. It's
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Speaker 1: hard to be in the right place when it happens.
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Speaker 1: So it really is for me that rut is just
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Speaker 1: It's about perseverance. It's like, can you stick to it
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Speaker 1: long enough for those special moments, because they will happen
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Speaker 1: eventually if you're out there, but it's not always going
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Speaker 1: to be like a TV show and it happens right away. Um.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know, given the fact that you've been
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Speaker 1: doing this now and talking to so many people, you've
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Speaker 1: kind of had an interesting high level overview. Have you
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Speaker 1: have you seen any big I don't know, have you
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Speaker 1: taken away any big aha moments or lessons learned from
3:29
Speaker 1: this experience hearing from so many hunters over the course
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Speaker 1: of this two thousand and sixteen run. Well from the
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Speaker 1: podcast in particular, you know, I just talked about how
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Speaker 1: I would find myself like disagreeing with the neighboring state,
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Speaker 1: but at the same time I realized that this rut
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Speaker 1: is really universal. Um, Like, some weeks I would add
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Speaker 1: more in common with the people from New York or Oklahoma. Uh,
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Speaker 1: then I would with like the Iowa or Minnesota or
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Speaker 1: something like that. And it made me realize how close
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Speaker 1: all this is happening. You know, I could be a
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Speaker 1: thousand miles from one of these guys, but the peak
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Speaker 1: breeding or the seeking and chasing phase for both of
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Speaker 1: us might only be a couple of days apart, and
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Speaker 1: so it's really made me open up my ears. I
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Speaker 1: guess to two guys that I always felt like I
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Speaker 1: had less in common with, but I really do. UM.
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Speaker 1: So that's been one great thing. It almost feels like
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Speaker 1: every one of these reports is relevant, even if I'm
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Speaker 1: not near where they're hunting. There's a lot of truth
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Speaker 1: to that because I think one of the major I
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Speaker 1: mean the major factor that that determines at least when
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Speaker 1: deer going to Estrius, when a doe comes into Estus
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Speaker 1: is just daylight. Is the changing amount of daylight. And
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Speaker 1: that is universal. You know, that's not something that's different
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Speaker 1: between New York and North and North Dakota. That's happening
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Speaker 1: at relatively the same time and anywhere in that part
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Speaker 1: of the country. Now there are some differences north to south,
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Speaker 1: but um, but that's something that I think lots of
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Speaker 1: times we assume the rut is so regional, when in
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Speaker 1: many cases it's it's a little bit closer than maybe
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Speaker 1: we we think. And I think to your point, when
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Speaker 1: we're hearing these types of updates, I think it kind
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Speaker 1: of shines a light on that. So that's a really
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Speaker 1: interesting observation. You were mentioning a couple other things, though, too,
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Speaker 1: write in regards to when you thought the peak was
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Speaker 1: and different things a on those lines. It wasn't necessarily
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Speaker 1: podcasts related, but just some observations that I had myself.
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Speaker 1: One of the one was that I feel like this
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Speaker 1: was like the foggiest rut that I've ever been around.
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Speaker 1: Um and we had kind of talked about this the
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Speaker 1: whole year or the the whole you know, last month
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Speaker 1: or so about in the podcast about how mild the
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Speaker 1: weather has been. I think that mild weather has just
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Speaker 1: like fallen in that absolute perfect zone for foggy mornings,
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Speaker 1: and so like I hunt River Bottoms a lot, which is,
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Speaker 1: you know, more likely to be foggy there than anywhere else.
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Speaker 1: And there would be mornings where my end of October
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Speaker 1: and beginning of November, SI's like for a week straight
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Speaker 1: where I would haunt my first hour with you know,
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Speaker 1: less than like a hundred feet of visibility or less
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Speaker 1: than fifty feet of visibility at some point, and that
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Speaker 1: has to really make you like scratch your head during
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Speaker 1: that time and go May and you know what is
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Speaker 1: going on that I'm not seeing. And at the same time,
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Speaker 1: what is this tuning for? What is this doing for
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Speaker 1: the deer movement? Like if a Bucky's out there looking
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Speaker 1: for does he has to be moving almost extra you
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Speaker 1: would think? Or was it the opposite, you know, is
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Speaker 1: he moving less knowing that it's still foggy right now?
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Speaker 1: The visually he can't you know, lay his eyes on anything.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Did you notice like an excessive foggy
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Speaker 1: mornings this year or not? I definitely did, And I
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Speaker 1: wonder that I had the same as that question as
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Speaker 1: you had. You know, there were some of those hunts
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Speaker 1: in early November for me, where like, for example, there's
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Speaker 1: one two day stretch in particular I can think of
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Speaker 1: right now where I hunted the same stand two mornings
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Speaker 1: in a row. The first morning, you know, it's like November,
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Speaker 1: I don't remember. It was like sixth or fifth or
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Speaker 1: seventh summer around there, and that first morning it was clear, crisp, cool,
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Speaker 1: and the deer were just everywhere. It was just chaos,
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Speaker 1: all sorts of movement. I was back in there the
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Speaker 1: very next day, same type of temperature, same type of everything,
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Speaker 1: except for really thick fog and it was just dead.
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Speaker 1: And I had gone in that more and thinking it
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Speaker 1: was gonna be a great morning, and I saw hardly anything.
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't one of those things where you know,
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Speaker 1: I just wasn't seeing Dear, because I couldn't see a
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Speaker 1: long ways. The day before, all the activity I was seeing,
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Speaker 1: or at least like the activity I was seeing was
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Speaker 1: within like forty yards of me, Like there was deer
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Speaker 1: all over and right within range. And now the next day,
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Speaker 1: same situation, but with fog, nothing close at all. So
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Speaker 1: I was sitting there thinking that the exact same thing
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Speaker 1: you're It's like, is the fog just keeping them from
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Speaker 1: moving or what's happening here? I don't know, but it
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Speaker 1: raised questions. And that's one of those things about the
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Speaker 1: rut Is and really Dear Rye in general, is it's
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Speaker 1: so fascinating to try to understand how these different factors
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Speaker 1: influenced dear movement and behavior. And we can kind of
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Speaker 1: guess and you know, put together different hypotheses, but we
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Speaker 1: never really know, um. And that's I guess what keeps
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Speaker 1: me going out there lots of times, just trying to
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Speaker 1: answer those questions that that are tough to answer, sometimes. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think the lesson there's somebody needs to car about
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Speaker 1: the niche of fogginess deer movement on a scale somewhere,
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Speaker 1: So we need that intel, that's for sure. Speaking of
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Speaker 1: speaking of scales, you're you've become very good at asking
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Speaker 1: the question of so and so, how has the deer
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Speaker 1: activity been on a scale of one to ten. I
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Speaker 1: want to turn that back on new Spencer for the
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Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen rut, like your whole November late after
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Speaker 1: over a period here, how would you rate the two
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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen rut for you personally? Add personally and
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Speaker 1: this is like very personal. I'm just referring myself, not
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Speaker 1: even just South Dakota's movement in general. UM, I would
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Speaker 1: say it was like a seven. Um. I saw like
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Speaker 1: the good movement you'd expect at the end of October group.
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Speaker 1: But then my beginning of November was pretty disappointing. Um.
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Speaker 1: But then what ended up what happening was I was
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Speaker 1: able to get a rifle in my hands. Some of
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Speaker 1: these seasons opened up for me that you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of crossed over with the rut a little bit, and
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Speaker 1: so then the hunting obviously got a lot better. For me. Um,
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Speaker 1: had I had a bowl in my hands of it,
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Speaker 1: it probably would have been worse and I'd be telling
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Speaker 1: you was like a five or six. But I got
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Speaker 1: lucky there. That was my saving grace this year was
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Speaker 1: being able to pick up a rifle a couple of
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Speaker 1: times and get out with that rather than sitting in
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Speaker 1: a tree. Yeah, that that helps, definitely helps the odds,
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Speaker 1: that's for sure. For me. If I were to try
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Speaker 1: to give you my personal ranking, I would probably give
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Speaker 1: it a maybe a seven as well, like a six
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Speaker 1: and a half to a seven. Um, because I saw
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Speaker 1: a really good early action, Like my best running action
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Speaker 1: was from like that last week of October through the
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Speaker 1: first week of November. That two week period for me,
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Speaker 1: I was like in it consistently lots of activity, lots
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Speaker 1: of chasing and seeking and all that kind of stuff
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Speaker 1: bucks fighting. Um. But then from probably like the eighth
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Speaker 1: through like the fifteen or sixteenth or seventeen sixteen, it
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Speaker 1: was really low as far as trial camera pictures and
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Speaker 1: actual in person sightings. UM. I mean, my time in
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Speaker 1: Ohio was really pretty dead. The camera pictures here and
10:02
Speaker 1: there and in Michigan were pretty dead. Um. But what's
10:06
Speaker 1: interesting is then when I came back from Ohio very
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Speaker 1: soon after that, prior round the sixteenth or seventeenth of
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Speaker 1: the month, all of a sudden, the cameras like a
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Speaker 1: flip switch, and I started getting more daylight and more
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Speaker 1: pictures of mature bucks down there than I had all season.
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Speaker 1: You know, before i'd been hunting down there, while i'd
10:24
Speaker 1: hunted down there after, this is by far the best. Um.
10:28
Speaker 1: So it seemed like for whatever it was, you know,
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Speaker 1: that was when things were picking up down there, while
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Speaker 1: for me in Michigan it was earlier. I don't really
10:35
Speaker 1: know what to make of that, but um but it
10:37
Speaker 1: was interesting to see. So, speaking of the best, you know,
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Speaker 1: a couple of days stretch of hunting in South Dakota here,
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Speaker 1: I thought it took place around like November, And this
10:47
Speaker 1: is a really strange thing to basis off of, but
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Speaker 1: I'll tell the story. So I was hunting like the
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Speaker 1: same area for like four straight days in western South Dakota,
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Speaker 1: and from where I was staying to where I was hunting,
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Speaker 1: it was about a half hour drive it every day.
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Speaker 1: On the third day, I saw the rendering truck out
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Speaker 1: on this stretch of interstate picking up dead deer um
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Speaker 1: and it was about a five to ten mile stretch
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Speaker 1: where there had been a lot of deer hit in
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Speaker 1: that area. So the rendering truck had cleaned it up
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Speaker 1: on like the fourteenth, you know, the interstate no longer
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Speaker 1: had any carcasses. The fifteenth that was driving that stretch
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Speaker 1: of interstate again and I saw like three bucks over
11:23
Speaker 1: one thirty that had been hit overnight. And then I
11:26
Speaker 1: saw another deer that had its head cut off that
11:28
Speaker 1: was hit the night. So that was under like a
11:30
Speaker 1: less than a twenty four hour period that all that
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Speaker 1: took place. And so I mean it was incredible to
11:36
Speaker 1: me all those deer that got laid out, and you know,
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Speaker 1: the odds of those things getting hit on the interstate,
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Speaker 1: you know, against how many deal were actually probably moving.
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Speaker 1: That had to you know be a significant portion of
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Speaker 1: they're their best movement. That had to be when they
11:52
Speaker 1: took place there. So I think next year we need
11:53
Speaker 1: to start talking to like some rendering truck guys maybe
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Speaker 1: houses and see when their activities picking up. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're a friend of mine. Um. Craig Doherty always used
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Speaker 1: to tell me that the way he tracked the progress
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Speaker 1: of the rut in his area was he talked to
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Speaker 1: his local UPS guy UM, I think it was UPS
12:13
Speaker 1: or FedEx or something like their post office guy. He
12:15
Speaker 1: would check with this guy UM, and then he would
12:18
Speaker 1: also check with I think it was a car repair
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Speaker 1: person UM, like a you know, like a wrecking shop
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Speaker 1: where they bring an accident cars that have been an
12:25
Speaker 1: accidents from roadkill type situations like that. UM. And those
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Speaker 1: two people would give him the update on how much
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Speaker 1: road kill there was and how many different cars have
12:35
Speaker 1: come in because of it, and he could actually track.
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Speaker 1: He'd see it consistently certain times you see it peek
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Speaker 1: up and towards mid November and then come back down.
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Speaker 1: And so I think there's some interesting things you can
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Speaker 1: pull from that type of that type of observational data.
12:50
Speaker 1: I guess, because, like you said, if there's that much
12:53
Speaker 1: row kill, you know that's obviously because there's been so
12:57
Speaker 1: much movement back and forth across the road that's of
13:00
Speaker 1: course going to result in a few kills along the way.
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Speaker 1: That seemed as relevant is anything that my trailer camers
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Speaker 1: were telling me or what I was seeing on stand.
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Speaker 1: So November is is about gone? I think today is uh,
13:13
Speaker 1: I don't say is November twenty nine or no, and
13:16
Speaker 1: so that's basically the end of sweet November. But we
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Speaker 1: do have one final set of reports from across the country, right, Spencer. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So we start off with Eric Long in Ohio of
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Speaker 1: Drumming Log Wildlife Management, and then we have Clay Forest
13:31
Speaker 1: with Stewart Ranch Outfitters in Oklahoma, and then we have
13:34
Speaker 1: Mark Kaiser from Deer and Deer Hunting TV in Wyoming,
13:37
Speaker 1: and then we end with Bill Winkie in Iowa with
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Speaker 1: Midwest white Tail. Awesome. Well, I'm looking forward to hearing
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Speaker 1: what they've been seeing and what's happening here in this
13:47
Speaker 1: end of November period and then uh, I guess until
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Speaker 1: next year. Spencer. Good luck with your hunts in these
13:55
Speaker 1: next coming weeks and you know, to another run and
13:58
Speaker 1: same to you, Mark. December is definitely no November, but
14:02
Speaker 1: at least we get to hunt. That's the truth. Should
14:05
Speaker 1: be fun. But quickly before we get to our first update,
14:10
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Speaker 1: and joining us on the line first is Eric Long,
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Speaker 1: the owner of Drumming Log Wildlife Management. Now, Eric in Ohio,
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Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been there
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Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in this last
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Speaker 1: week or so, within the last week or so, UM,
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Speaker 1: I would say it's probably about a six to seven
14:46
Speaker 1: in some areas even higher. Um right now. Unfortunately, Ohio's
14:52
Speaker 1: gun season is in full swing as of yesterday, and
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Speaker 1: so it's really just gonna disrupt a little bit of things,
14:59
Speaker 1: you know, uh, the activity, uh, in a sense of that.
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Speaker 1: So but yeah, i'd stay within the last week. I mean,
15:06
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty good. It's still pretty good. So what
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Speaker 1: phases the route would you then say that we're in
15:11
Speaker 1: in Ohio? Um, without a doubt, I would say here
15:16
Speaker 1: on a uh for sure. On the downside of it, um,
15:21
Speaker 1: you know, like a week and a half, two weeks ago,
15:24
Speaker 1: it was just absolutely insane. I mean it was the wonderful,
15:28
Speaker 1: wonderful activity, best I've seen in years. Um. But as
15:34
Speaker 1: a week went on, it was definitely dropping those older
15:37
Speaker 1: class white tails. You know, they came off those does
15:40
Speaker 1: and they were really on their feet and um, you know,
15:42
Speaker 1: those two year olds were just acting like bowling balls
15:45
Speaker 1: out in the food plot, just blowing everything up, you know. Um,
15:49
Speaker 1: but right now, um, you know it's like I was
15:52
Speaker 1: hunting the uh this past weekend and I had older
15:55
Speaker 1: class white tails three or four year olds in the
15:57
Speaker 1: food plot just concentrating on feeding and not any running activity.
16:02
Speaker 1: But they were still on their feet in plenty of daylight.
16:05
Speaker 1: And those younger bucks, those year and a halfs and
16:07
Speaker 1: two year olds were just constantly hounding on those year
16:10
Speaker 1: and a half year old does those dough fons that
16:14
Speaker 1: met that you know, weight requirement sixty plus pounds that
16:18
Speaker 1: that can't come into esters? So they were definitely hounding them.
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Speaker 1: But it was very odd that those older class year
16:25
Speaker 1: weren't really messing with those just as younger bucks were,
16:28
Speaker 1: which is typical, just a bunch of teenagers trying to
16:30
Speaker 1: get a date for the dance, you know. So so yeah,
16:34
Speaker 1: what about with betting this time of year? Um, say,
16:37
Speaker 1: you haven't been out in a couple of weeks and
16:38
Speaker 1: you're just getting making this now, do you think the
16:41
Speaker 1: betting has changed a lot from like mid mid November
16:44
Speaker 1: till now? Yeah? I mean, as a season in the
16:49
Speaker 1: state of Ohio. You know, it's just it's a it
16:51
Speaker 1: gets pretty pressured anymore, um so, especially you know this
16:56
Speaker 1: week of Gunn and M. Yeah, it's but if you
16:58
Speaker 1: have a place that's you know, kind of remote and
17:01
Speaker 1: you know a special place where the pressure or you're
17:04
Speaker 1: in a cd M co walk where the pressure is
17:06
Speaker 1: not very you know, uh substantial, definitely, the betting areas
17:12
Speaker 1: definitely changed. To answer your question. You know, as the
17:14
Speaker 1: foliage comes off and you know, the quality dear, you
17:18
Speaker 1: know those bucks that you've got to think cover the
17:20
Speaker 1: equals food. I preach it a lot, you know, and
17:23
Speaker 1: that's where you know, doing some good quality deer management
17:25
Speaker 1: comes in producing those great quality betting areas that have
17:29
Speaker 1: food because those older bucks, you know, especially on a
17:31
Speaker 1: cd M program, you know, they have lost a lot
17:34
Speaker 1: of weight, but they want to feel secure at the
17:37
Speaker 1: same time, and you know, doing some teens all management
17:39
Speaker 1: and stuff like that produces that. You know, you're putting
17:42
Speaker 1: those weight, putting that weight back on those deer's like
17:44
Speaker 1: giving them a secure place. So you know, hopefully I
17:47
Speaker 1: answer your question, but yeah, you know, to do the
17:49
Speaker 1: foliage coming off and you know, feeling secure, So yeah,
17:53
Speaker 1: you just you know, I would concentrate myself on um,
17:57
Speaker 1: you know this food right now. Are there any food
18:00
Speaker 1: in particular that you think are better than others right now? Yeah?
18:03
Speaker 1: You know your car you know staregum corn obviously, you
18:07
Speaker 1: know obviously beans can you know it's protein, but they
18:10
Speaker 1: can you know, they have a the ability to get
18:12
Speaker 1: carve out of it. Um. You know your brassicas, your turnips,
18:16
Speaker 1: you know your adshes, you know stuff like that. But yeah,
18:19
Speaker 1: if you you know, did your your job, um and
18:22
Speaker 1: if you had the possibility of planning food plots, you know,
18:26
Speaker 1: see that's the thing. And I don't mean to preach
18:28
Speaker 1: a little bit, but doing just planning a food plots
18:31
Speaker 1: one thing this time, you know, having it available this
18:33
Speaker 1: time of year, but more importantly, because of the pressure
18:36
Speaker 1: you've got to produce habitat and that covered the equals
18:39
Speaker 1: food because those deer, especially in the state of Ohio,
18:42
Speaker 1: no matter where you're at in the stable Ohio, you know,
18:45
Speaker 1: we're there's a lot of people out there and those
18:47
Speaker 1: bucks that we're all trying to trying to kill, you know,
18:50
Speaker 1: they want to feel secure. And if there's quality betting
18:53
Speaker 1: areas next to those soups, food sources. You know, your
18:57
Speaker 1: chances of at least an opportunity of viewing um uh,
19:00
Speaker 1: if not killing them. You know, it is a great possibility. Yeah,
19:04
Speaker 1: that's that's a great point. But what about going forward
19:07
Speaker 1: in this next week or so, what do you think
19:09
Speaker 1: the buck activity is going to be then? On the
19:11
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten um next week or two um,
19:15
Speaker 1: I would say it's gonna be minimal because of the
19:18
Speaker 1: firearms season that's going on in Ohile. I mean, it's
19:21
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of nocturnal activity. Just be patient,
19:25
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's and I say this jokingly, it's
19:28
Speaker 1: almost take a week off after gun season. And I
19:30
Speaker 1: say that jokingly obviously, but because those dear it's gonna
19:34
Speaker 1: take them a little bit to get back on their
19:35
Speaker 1: their their on their program, on your program because of
19:39
Speaker 1: all the disruption, you know, people doing deer drives or
19:43
Speaker 1: you know, just the activity that's normally not there. So
19:46
Speaker 1: it's gonna take them a while to get feel feel
19:47
Speaker 1: comfortable again to you know, utilize those food plots uh
19:52
Speaker 1: in daylight hours. All right, Eric, Well that's some great
19:55
Speaker 1: information and thanks for joining us. Yes, not a problem
19:57
Speaker 1: anytime you know that, all right, And enjoining me on
20:00
Speaker 1: the line next is Clay Forest, the operator of Stewart
20:04
Speaker 1: Ranch Outfitters now Clay in Oklahoma. What would you say
20:08
Speaker 1: the RUT activity has been there on the scale of
20:10
Speaker 1: one to ten in this last week or so? Uh,
20:14
Speaker 1: we are probably right around Uh, I'm gonna call it
20:18
Speaker 1: about an eight right now. Uh, We're we're experienced a
20:22
Speaker 1: little bit of lockdown, UM in the last couple of
20:25
Speaker 1: three or four days. Prior to that, right around Thanksgiving,
20:28
Speaker 1: it was it was really going pretty high here as
20:31
Speaker 1: far as h RUT activity. So we're we're kind of
20:34
Speaker 1: on the downhill swing as far as prime rut time
20:37
Speaker 1: here in southern Oklahoma. But I still I still think
20:40
Speaker 1: we're about an eight, seven and eight at this point.
20:42
Speaker 1: So do you think it's been better than that this year?
20:45
Speaker 1: Or is an eight the highest it's been for you guys? Um,
20:50
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say eight's kind of the high. Um, We've
20:54
Speaker 1: kind of had a weird year as far as just
20:57
Speaker 1: um overall RUT activity. The um for the most part,
21:03
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it. We've had days where it's
21:05
Speaker 1: been really really uh been a high number, you know, say,
21:08
Speaker 1: at nine or ten and then the very next day
21:10
Speaker 1: it's it's gone back down. So it's kind of been
21:12
Speaker 1: an up and down year as far as r I
21:14
Speaker 1: don't think it ever really just plateaued or anything to
21:17
Speaker 1: that nature. So um, I think I think it hates
21:20
Speaker 1: about as good as we got this year. How has
21:23
Speaker 1: that been translated to your clients and they're hunting for
21:26
Speaker 1: this last week? If it's net at and eight, have
21:28
Speaker 1: you guys gotten a lot of mature bucks on the ground,
21:30
Speaker 1: then Uh, yes, sir, but we've had to earn on
21:34
Speaker 1: the last last few days or really quite since Thanksgiving,
21:38
Speaker 1: We've we've got some good mature mature bucks on the ground,
21:42
Speaker 1: but they've definitely made us earn them as far as
21:45
Speaker 1: we're fortunate enough to be able to glass in our
21:47
Speaker 1: country and kind of make moves onto your if we
21:49
Speaker 1: need to, if they were to bet down at the
21:50
Speaker 1: dough and and that sort of thing. So um, even
21:53
Speaker 1: though I think it's uh, we're experienced a little bit
21:55
Speaker 1: of locked down and at some unseasonally warm warm temperature
21:58
Speaker 1: is kind of like we've been battling all year, still
22:00
Speaker 1: been able to get mature deer on the ground. What
22:03
Speaker 1: about with those mature deers specifically, Um, what kind of
22:06
Speaker 1: activity have you seen them have over these last few days.
22:09
Speaker 1: Do you think that they're showing any interest in the doughs?
22:11
Speaker 1: Are they focusing on food? Do you think it's lockdown
22:14
Speaker 1: with what's going on there? Um, Honestly, I'm gonna give
22:17
Speaker 1: you a fifty fifty answer. I think it's a little
22:19
Speaker 1: bit of both. We just got a mature deer down
22:21
Speaker 1: last night. He's go to school right at right at
22:24
Speaker 1: one fifty five and a half year old deer that
22:26
Speaker 1: has been chasing does for the last two or three days.
22:30
Speaker 1: We've had eyes on him, and that was kind of
22:33
Speaker 1: toward the north end of the ranch. We shot a
22:35
Speaker 1: buck two days ago, again, another five and a half
22:38
Speaker 1: year old mature buck who really was just coming to food. Uh,
22:42
Speaker 1: he came in off a big grain field or we
22:44
Speaker 1: feel that we've got and kind of funneled into a
22:46
Speaker 1: draw and we got a shot on them, but did
22:49
Speaker 1: not care too much about about does. So we're experiencing
22:52
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. Um. So it's kind of
22:54
Speaker 1: mate hunting a little interesting here in the last week
22:57
Speaker 1: and a half ten days or so, well, last i'ment
23:00
Speaker 1: talked to you in I think it was the end
23:01
Speaker 1: of October. We had talked about how the unseasonably warm
23:05
Speaker 1: temperatures had really suppressed the dear movement. Do you think
23:08
Speaker 1: that the weather right now plays as big a factor
23:11
Speaker 1: as it did two or three weeks ago in Uh, No, sir,
23:14
Speaker 1: I don't think so. We're still seeing a lot of movement,
23:17
Speaker 1: and it it's pretty close to normal. Um. As far
23:19
Speaker 1: as as weather, when I talked to you last we
23:22
Speaker 1: were fifteen degrees above normal. We're right now. It's it's
23:25
Speaker 1: pretty close to being right. So, uh, We've seeing a
23:28
Speaker 1: lot of deer funneling in the big fields and that
23:31
Speaker 1: sort of thing. So as far as overall activity, I
23:34
Speaker 1: think the weather is not really planning just a big
23:35
Speaker 1: part into it. We're supposed to get a big front
23:37
Speaker 1: here in the next couple of days, and I think
23:38
Speaker 1: in the next a little bit it should be should
23:41
Speaker 1: be pretty pretty good as fart dear movement. So, speaking
23:44
Speaker 1: of the next couple of days, what do you think
23:45
Speaker 1: that bucket activity is going to be in this next
23:47
Speaker 1: week or so? On a scale of one to ten,
23:51
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not gonna call it a ten, but
23:52
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it pretty close. We're we're gonna get
23:55
Speaker 1: our first two or three or four days stretch of
23:58
Speaker 1: cold weather. Um, we're supposed to have a little precipitation
24:02
Speaker 1: this weekend which might kind of done it a little bit.
24:04
Speaker 1: But um, I think the high for here on Saturdays
24:07
Speaker 1: like forty five, which is a little bit low normal.
24:10
Speaker 1: So really looking forward from about actually from about Thursday
24:13
Speaker 1: to Monday is looking We're looking really well, are looking
24:16
Speaker 1: good as far as uh uh deer movement and buck activity.
24:20
Speaker 1: So I really think if you're in southern Oklahoma in
24:22
Speaker 1: the next week, week and a half, it ought to
24:24
Speaker 1: be really really good. Alright, Clay Well, I love following
24:27
Speaker 1: the Facebook page and I'm excited to keep checking out
24:29
Speaker 1: over this next week or so with the best movement
24:32
Speaker 1: on its way. So thanks for your call, yes, sir,
24:35
Speaker 1: thank you, Spenser, appreciate it alright. And joining me on
24:39
Speaker 1: the line next is Mark Kaiser, co host of Deer
24:42
Speaker 1: and Deer Hunting TV and outdoor writer. Now, Mark had
24:46
Speaker 1: just talked to you last week about the rut activity
24:48
Speaker 1: in Nebraska, but lately over Thanksgiving, I know you were
24:52
Speaker 1: back in your home state of Wyoming. How would you
24:54
Speaker 1: say the bucket activity has been there on a scale
24:57
Speaker 1: of one to ten in this last week or so,
25:00
Speaker 1: I would say it's still rating at a sixth or
25:04
Speaker 1: a seven for white tails. But on the opposite spectrum,
25:09
Speaker 1: the mule deer spectrum, there's is winding down quicker, and
25:13
Speaker 1: I'm I wouldn't even rank that as a four probably,
25:18
Speaker 1: you know, three maybe, but a four, but not a five.
25:21
Speaker 1: The mules deer were already what we were seeing is
25:24
Speaker 1: they were banning up in bachelor groups, already not not
25:28
Speaker 1: at all mindful, worrying about having two or three bucks
25:32
Speaker 1: together in a group, whereas the white tails there were
25:35
Speaker 1: still some chasing going on. It actually impressed me how
25:38
Speaker 1: much activity was out there. So we're encroaching the beginning
25:42
Speaker 1: days of December here. What about a secondary rout in
25:45
Speaker 1: that area? Is that something that you ever witness I've
25:48
Speaker 1: witnessed it a lot. You know, I grew grew up
25:50
Speaker 1: and spent a lot of time hunting in the Dakota's,
25:53
Speaker 1: living here in Wyoming, hunting extensively in Montana. You do
25:57
Speaker 1: see that. The problem with so many of the states,
26:00
Speaker 1: and in the two I just mentioned Montana Wyoming, is
26:03
Speaker 1: there's no December hunting seasons, you've got to move back
26:06
Speaker 1: over to the Dakotas. And the research that I've read
26:10
Speaker 1: and and talked to the biologist stuff is you're looking
26:13
Speaker 1: at about a ten per cent uh group of dolls
26:17
Speaker 1: that haven't been bred yet, and and that seems like
26:21
Speaker 1: maybe not a lot, but when you're only get to
26:24
Speaker 1: have that little fling once a year, ten group of
26:29
Speaker 1: dolls coming back into asterisk can can spike the activity,
26:33
Speaker 1: albeit even for a brief time period. Yes, so in
26:36
Speaker 1: these coming days, if you were looking to fill a
26:39
Speaker 1: tag in the Dakotas or wyoming, or what would be
26:42
Speaker 1: your tactics would you be focusing on dolls are looking
26:44
Speaker 1: for food or different kind of betting. You've probably mentioned
26:47
Speaker 1: the three things and and it comes down to three
26:50
Speaker 1: things all the time. But a definitely find those dough
26:54
Speaker 1: groups fine where the bigger numbers of dos are congregating,
26:58
Speaker 1: and that's going to lead you to be which is
27:00
Speaker 1: food because these deer are just burnt down to the
27:04
Speaker 1: bone now, the bucks especially, but the doughs have run
27:07
Speaker 1: a lot too. Uh again stuff I've read they're they're
27:11
Speaker 1: burning of their body weight off during the rut. They've
27:16
Speaker 1: got to gain some of that back, they'll never gain
27:18
Speaker 1: it all back, so they're going to be going to
27:20
Speaker 1: the good food sources. And again that's where the doughs
27:24
Speaker 1: are gathering. And then the third thing to look for
27:26
Speaker 1: is sanctuary and refuge. In many of these states, these
27:30
Speaker 1: deer have been hunted non stop since September. Think about it.
27:35
Speaker 1: If you've been hunted and pursued for them any days
27:38
Speaker 1: on end, you know where all the good hiding spots are,
27:41
Speaker 1: or you're not alive. You've already taken a ride in
27:43
Speaker 1: a Coleman cooler somewhere. So you've got to know where
27:46
Speaker 1: the good safety zones are, where the good food is,
27:49
Speaker 1: and if you want to have that last um little
27:53
Speaker 1: fling on dating dot com, you've got to know where
27:56
Speaker 1: the doughs are. Well, Mark, I saw your son just
27:58
Speaker 1: killed a great buck there, and why coming over Thanksgiving break,
28:01
Speaker 1: why don't you tell us about that hunting, the deer
28:03
Speaker 1: activity you saw in those sits. And I just i'd
28:07
Speaker 1: just come back myself, so I hadn't had a lot
28:09
Speaker 1: of time to scout. I scouted one evening the night
28:12
Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving, and he was flying home late that night,
28:16
Speaker 1: and what I saw was some pretty good buck activity
28:18
Speaker 1: that night. It was cool. There was four or five
28:21
Speaker 1: bucks working a group of dos and they were definitely
28:24
Speaker 1: in pursuit. And I spotted another buck off on the
28:26
Speaker 1: stage brush. These are white tails. That was had a
28:29
Speaker 1: hot doll. He had pushed off out and away from
28:32
Speaker 1: all the other deer. So to me, it looked like
28:34
Speaker 1: it's going to be a good hunt. We we ran
28:37
Speaker 1: right into that exact factor. The next morning, a lot
28:41
Speaker 1: of deer moving. We were hunting some creek bottoms. The
28:44
Speaker 1: bucks were cruising, the dos were still wanting to get
28:48
Speaker 1: you know, and be chased by the bucks. And uh,
28:51
Speaker 1: we even spotted a hot doll that afternoon. And then
28:54
Speaker 1: driving out that day, we spotted a really big buck
28:57
Speaker 1: cruise in the middle of the day, ten or ten
29:00
Speaker 1: living in the morning. He walked right across the road
29:02
Speaker 1: in front of us. We tried to get on him,
29:04
Speaker 1: but we couldn't get on him. And uh, but the
29:07
Speaker 1: problem we ran into and this is the problem. You know,
29:10
Speaker 1: I'm no different than anyone else. Right, that was Thanksgiving,
29:14
Speaker 1: We hunted. Nobody was out the next day. Everybody had
29:17
Speaker 1: the three day weekend and people were everywhere. And I
29:20
Speaker 1: didn't have exclusive rights to this property. So we were
29:23
Speaker 1: sitting there waiting for the bucks to come to us. Well,
29:26
Speaker 1: there's other people hunting this property for the next two
29:29
Speaker 1: days wanted to do deer drive and they just totally
29:32
Speaker 1: pushed everything off the property. So I had to go
29:35
Speaker 1: to Plan B, which was to hunt where we've seen
29:37
Speaker 1: this bigger buck and hunt on the fringe areas where
29:41
Speaker 1: deer were going back and forth between property boundaries. And
29:44
Speaker 1: that gets a little sticky because then you've got to
29:46
Speaker 1: make sure that your shot is perfect dead on, because
29:48
Speaker 1: you don't want to deal with angry landowners of a buck,
29:51
Speaker 1: you know, jumps the fence and you got to track
29:53
Speaker 1: him on the other side. And uh, we stuck to
29:56
Speaker 1: our guns there and went after the big ones and
30:00
Speaker 1: out of a big one and Cole made a great
30:02
Speaker 1: stock on a buck that was on a hot doll.
30:05
Speaker 1: Another buck was there and another doll, so he had
30:07
Speaker 1: to crawl in close to these deer without being spotted
30:11
Speaker 1: with all these eyes, and he did it. He ground
30:13
Speaker 1: crawled right on his belly right there through some prairie
30:16
Speaker 1: graphs and and made a great shot at just under
30:19
Speaker 1: three yards on a buck that was running yet right
30:21
Speaker 1: at the end of November. Well, if you want to
30:23
Speaker 1: see some awesome pictures from that hot you can check
30:25
Speaker 1: out Mark Keyser's Facebook page. But Mark, going forward in
30:29
Speaker 1: this next week or so, what do you think the
30:31
Speaker 1: bucket activity is going to be then in that area,
30:35
Speaker 1: in this area and much of the white tailed zone,
30:38
Speaker 1: but specifically this area, it's gonna start dropping off fast
30:42
Speaker 1: and in some places. One of the other spots we
30:45
Speaker 1: looked at that very day shot that buck. I went
30:49
Speaker 1: to another property and last day it was almost night
30:52
Speaker 1: and day. Those white tail bucks were kind of laid up,
30:55
Speaker 1: not really want to run. So you're going to see
30:58
Speaker 1: in the next week it's it's gonna are shutting down fast.
31:01
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean you still can't get into some running,
31:04
Speaker 1: but what it will mean is the bucks that have
31:06
Speaker 1: done the majority of the running, especially the four and
31:09
Speaker 1: a half year old that you know, they're just the athletes,
31:13
Speaker 1: they're gonna be pretty darned tired. You're gonna see the
31:16
Speaker 1: two and a half year old still moving good, some
31:19
Speaker 1: of the three and a half year old, but four
31:21
Speaker 1: fives and up, those deer that are their dominant deer,
31:25
Speaker 1: they're they're tired and they're not gonna do any hard
31:27
Speaker 1: running unless they absolutely know what doe was an asterisk. Alright, Mark,
31:32
Speaker 1: well that's some great information and good luck on the
31:34
Speaker 1: rest of your season. Thanks for joining me. Thank you sir,
31:39
Speaker 1: all right and joining me on the line. Last is
31:41
Speaker 1: Bill Winkie, the owner of Midwest White Tails. Now, Bill,
31:46
Speaker 1: you have had an outstanding season thus far, taking two
31:49
Speaker 1: incredible bucks, but I know you're still on the hunt
31:51
Speaker 1: for some doughs in Iowa there. What would you say
31:54
Speaker 1: the buck activity has been on a scale of one
31:56
Speaker 1: to ten lately, so during the past week, Uh, I
32:00
Speaker 1: think it really starts ramping down, um during the week
32:03
Speaker 1: that we're in. So, you know, four or five days ago,
32:06
Speaker 1: I might have said it was a six, and now
32:09
Speaker 1: I might say that it's a three or a four. Um,
32:13
Speaker 1: you know, working its way downward just because of the
32:15
Speaker 1: distance we are from the the breeding cycle that you
32:21
Speaker 1: just get that trailing off a fact where you've got
32:22
Speaker 1: a few doughs that are still an asteris and then
32:24
Speaker 1: they start to get mopped up and then pretty soon
32:27
Speaker 1: you know, there's really not much left um to get
32:29
Speaker 1: those bucks on their feet. So my thinking is usually
32:33
Speaker 1: around they of November is more or less when the
32:38
Speaker 1: primary ruts starts to shut down to the point where
32:43
Speaker 1: you know, I don't hut mornings typically after about the
32:46
Speaker 1: November because the amount of daylight movement in the morning
32:50
Speaker 1: is pretty low among bucks. Um. There's always exceptions. Of course,
32:53
Speaker 1: individual deer can behave differently, and you can have you know,
32:56
Speaker 1: certain population dynamics where you've got maybe a higher number
33:01
Speaker 1: of doughs in a certain area where maybe you're gonna
33:02
Speaker 1: pick up a few more of them, you know, a
33:04
Speaker 1: few more bucks on their feet, you know, trying to
33:06
Speaker 1: find that last dough. But you know, on average, the
33:09
Speaker 1: November is kind of the closing date in my mind
33:13
Speaker 1: for the normal running activity. Do you think that the
33:16
Speaker 1: buck movement in general has declined or just the daylight movement.
33:21
Speaker 1: I think they're in bucks. I think the ball movement
33:24
Speaker 1: in general has declined. Um. But overall, if you're looking
33:28
Speaker 1: for deer, I think the amount of deer movement is
33:30
Speaker 1: actually up now because the dose kind of hide during
33:34
Speaker 1: the the peak of the breeding portion of the rut.
33:38
Speaker 1: They just get pastored so much, they just don't really
33:40
Speaker 1: come out and they opened very much like they do
33:43
Speaker 1: you know, other times of the season. So I'm seeing
33:45
Speaker 1: a lot more doughs, now tons of dos, and then
33:48
Speaker 1: the odd box still poking around. But it's not you know,
33:52
Speaker 1: it's it's not anything like which you would have seen
33:55
Speaker 1: even just a week ago. So you really alluded to
33:58
Speaker 1: evening sits there. Um, if you were hunting an evening
34:01
Speaker 1: still trying to get a buck on the ground, would
34:04
Speaker 1: you be more focused on their bedding or dose? Right now?
34:06
Speaker 1: We're looking for a food source. I've I've had pretty
34:11
Speaker 1: decent success at this time of the season um in
34:13
Speaker 1: the past, and I was always hunting on food. This year,
34:17
Speaker 1: I don't have a buck tag last We saw a
34:19
Speaker 1: pretty nice block last night while we were dough hunting,
34:22
Speaker 1: you know, so there was some activity and he wasn't
34:24
Speaker 1: really looking to eat. He came out, worked a couple
34:27
Speaker 1: of scrapes, made one loop through the field, and then
34:29
Speaker 1: went right back into the timber again. So you know,
34:32
Speaker 1: like I said, there's always going to be exceptions. But
34:34
Speaker 1: all the other bucks that we saw last night, which
34:36
Speaker 1: weren't a large number, were pretty pretty small number of bucks.
34:39
Speaker 1: They were all feeding. They weren't looking at the does
34:41
Speaker 1: at all, So that's I would say, that's sort of
34:44
Speaker 1: what you you get, You get the odd one that
34:47
Speaker 1: still acts like it's the rots, and then the rest
34:49
Speaker 1: of them are most interested in food. So with that
34:52
Speaker 1: in mind, you know, I'm almost focused on food sources now.
34:56
Speaker 1: I think you can probably get by with a little
34:58
Speaker 1: bit of morning hunting. Yet, if you if you're a
35:00
Speaker 1: hardcore and you don't have anything else that you have
35:02
Speaker 1: to do, you know, you don't have any other obligations
35:05
Speaker 1: that are going to keep you out of the field,
35:07
Speaker 1: then there's no reason not to hunt mornings. If you're
35:09
Speaker 1: gonna do that, you might as well poke around those
35:11
Speaker 1: do betting areas for a little bit longer, because you
35:13
Speaker 1: still get the odd buck. You know that it still
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Speaker 1: does think it's the rut, But you know, like I said,
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Speaker 1: it's it's really starting to slow down fast. And the
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Speaker 1: best show in town right now is going to be
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Speaker 1: sitting on the food. Well, you just talked about scrapes
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Speaker 1: there a little bit, And do you think that there's
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Speaker 1: any useful information you can get from deer sign right now,
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Speaker 1: like scrapes and rubs, and do you think you'll find
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Speaker 1: a lot of deer still hitting those? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'm not really a big sign guy. Um. I used
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Speaker 1: to try that when I was early in my hunting education.
35:46
Speaker 1: I tried to make sense out of all that stuff,
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Speaker 1: and I just got more and more confused, and it
35:50
Speaker 1: led me down the wrong roads. So I don't really
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Speaker 1: pay much attention to it. To be honest with you, UM,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what I would gain from signed at
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Speaker 1: this point. The only sign I think that's really relevant
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Speaker 1: is stuff that you can identify. Um, the one that
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Speaker 1: made the sign. I mean, everybody thinks, oh, there's a
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Speaker 1: big rub, it had to be made by a big buck.
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Speaker 1: I've just seen way too many year and a half
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Speaker 1: whole bucks polishing up big trees. Um, you don't have
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Speaker 1: to have a big buck to make a big rub.
36:21
Speaker 1: We've got telephone poles out here that are you know,
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Speaker 1: probably an inch or or more, you know, in in circumference,
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Speaker 1: smaller in the areas where the deer rubbing on, theyven
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Speaker 1: rubbin on that hard and uh, you know, you see
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Speaker 1: everything you know on the planet that's rubbing on those things.
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Speaker 1: And it's not just you know, some some kind of
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Speaker 1: gigantic buck that would take on a telephone pole. What
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Speaker 1: about going forward in this next week or so, what
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Speaker 1: do you think the buck activity will be then on
36:49
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, I think it's gonna
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Speaker 1: start ramping back up again unless you've got hunting pressure.
36:56
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be on the food, and it's gonna
36:57
Speaker 1: be on feeding patterns. And you had this period when
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Speaker 1: the rutt lays down, when the bucks are their their
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Speaker 1: war out. They might be beat up, they might be
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Speaker 1: even wounded and injured, you know, where they need to
37:08
Speaker 1: just lay down for for a week or so and
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Speaker 1: and lick their wounds, and then they get back into
37:13
Speaker 1: the serious business of trying to you know, put the
37:17
Speaker 1: fat back on again or you know, put the weight
37:19
Speaker 1: back on again. That they lost her in the rut.
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Speaker 1: So I would say that really starts going pretty pretty hard,
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Speaker 1: you know, around the first of December or so. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you really see that that called the flight to food,
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Speaker 1: you know, where those bucks are really focused on eating. Um. So,
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Speaker 1: as long as it's a little bit cold and the
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Speaker 1: deer have been hunted real hard, you know, so that
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Speaker 1: they're only nocturnal, you should actually see an improvement in
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Speaker 1: the number of bucks, but they'll be on primarily feeding patterns.
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Speaker 1: All right, Bill, Well, good luck with the rest of
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Speaker 1: your season getting some dose down and if you guys
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Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, go to Midwest whitetail dot com
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Speaker 1: to see the two awesome deer that Bill harvested this year.
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Speaker 1: And thanks for your time, Bill, I appreciate it. Thank you, Spencer.
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Speaker 1: And that concludes the final episode of Wired Haunt's Rut Radio.
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