Latest / The Dave Holly Hour / Dave Holly Hour Episode 214 January 25, 2024
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- 0:00Music.
- 0:15Gifts, Chaser's Food and Spirits, Excel Chiropractic, Quality Nails,
- 0:20Jesse Moffitt Entertainment, and the Sioux Falls Arts Council.
- 0:24The Dave Holley Hour features Sioux Empire arts and entertainment conversations.
- 0:24Music.
- 0:29A true lover of arts, entertainment, good food, and fun times,
- 0:34including an occasional Jack Daniels.
- 0:36Okay, so a few Jack Daniels. Here he is, Dave Holley.
- 0:44Welcome, one and all. Great to have you along, as today we will be speaking
- 0:49to JAS Quintet saxophonist Joel Shotwell.
- 0:55They're going to be playing Saturday night in Flandreau at the Crystal Theater. Fun place to play.
- 1:00Joel stopped by the Dipsy Doodle production studio this week before it became
- 1:06the Dripsy Doodle studio. You see, there's this warmer weather,
- 1:11you know, to get up a freezing that we all wanted so bad.
- 1:14If you hear water dripping in the background, it's snow melting coming through the window.
- 1:21Thankfully, able to move audio equipment out of the way.
- 1:25And it could also be called the dripsy studio due to my runny nose.
- 1:31Thank you so much. First cold of the year, said Mr. Sarcasm. Hmm.
- 1:36I do need to update you on a concern of mine.
- 1:39A couple of weeks back, I woke up with basically the equivalent of that big
- 1:46smoke monster from the TV show Lost in my right eye.
- 1:49That's how bad the floaters were and so forth, dust bunnies and stuff like that,
- 1:54you know, very limited vision and couldn't focus in on things.
- 1:58So I was hoping it would simply go away, as floaters typically do.
- 2:02So a few days later, I was able to get into the Sanford Optical Clinic because
- 2:06things weren't improving.
- 2:08And then a week after that, which would have been last Friday morning,
- 2:11the eye surgeon looked me straight in the eye.
- 2:17You'll like that pun intended, huh? And said there were four choices,
- 2:22two of which would have put me in the situation of maybe a 50% chance of going blind.
- 2:28So, I went with what was behind door number four, which was the whole shebang.
- 2:34So, here's the process. In order to prevent my left eye from possibly having the same issue,
- 2:41she lasered it, and I got injections in both eyes, and I got back,
- 2:46or I go back, rather, February 14th.
- 2:49And if the left eye is doing well, and the right eye has been clearing some,
- 2:54she will most likely laser that one.
- 2:58And while they do numb the area, there is still some pain involved with the laser.
- 3:03I made it through, didn't have to ask her to stop, but it's a different type
- 3:07of pain. Oh my, don't want to have to do it again, but I'm going to.
- 3:11Because if all goes well, I should have a restored vision.
- 3:16All right, in the meantime though, I can't drive or work.
- 3:22Typing, texting, reading, all quite difficult.
- 3:26I had to cancel trivia the past week, but hoping with the large screen TV and
- 3:32an iPad that I can put right in front of my eyes, I'll be able to make it through
- 3:37that this coming Monday.
- 3:39The heartbreaker, though, was having to bow out of being in this year's premiere premieres.
- 3:45Tough to memorize lines, and with balance and depth perception being off as
- 3:50well, blocking directions would have been very trying.
- 3:54Not to mention the fact that the day that they open would be a day after my
- 4:00next most likely eye surgery.
- 4:02But since I can still talk, a little bit at least, we trudge on with this show
- 4:07because at least I can talk.
- 4:10Joel Shotwell coming up in just a few minutes.
- 4:13But first, let's pop the cork on this bubbly little show.
- 4:18Music.
- 4:55Whatever you're drinking, whatever you're drinking it from might very well be
- 5:00determined by where and when you're listening.
- 5:03My choice, my choice, of course, is a Jasper Newton Jack Daniels Diet Coke with Lime.
- 5:09For you, whether it's a cup of coffee, glass of milk, bottle of water,
- 5:13mug of beer or cocktail, glass of wine or a flute of champagne,
- 5:18lift it high and toast it to those that care.
- 5:23You know, those friends that wonder how you're doing.
- 5:26Ask if you need anything. Can I give you a ride?
- 5:29Or they can sense that while you might be shrugging off a situation,
- 5:34but know there's more to it. So cheers to caring people.
- 5:39Speaking of cheers, if you were a fan of the old sitcom cheers,
- 5:43then you're going to love Chaser's Food and Beverage, West 12th and Ellis Road.
- 5:49The friendly staff will get to know you by name and provide you with great food
- 5:53and drink and lots of smiles.
- 5:56Monday night, Dave Holley, our trivia, cross your fingers at Jesus.
- 6:00Starting at 7 and this coming Monday night, the trivia theme will be Double
- 6:04Down, all about the twos.
- 6:07If that sounds like a repeat from last week, it was, because we never got to do the Double Down.
- 6:11So we're doubling down on the fact that Dave will do trivia this coming Monday. day.
- 6:17What over the past week made Dave laugh, guffaw, chuckle, chortle,
- 6:23giggle, smile, or maybe even shed a tear of joy,
- 6:27that would go to those great people that just make stuff up. Improv Falls.
- 6:33Now, while my sight was horrible, etc., I could at least hear Improv Falls,
- 6:39and I, you know, could put a hand down, and the distance I was from,
- 6:42I could tell who each of them was, that that type of thing.
- 6:46But, you know, when you've gone through something and you just need a good laugh,
- 6:51and if you're ever in need of a good laugh, you see that Improv Falls is playing somewhere, go.
- 6:57You will be thankful for it.
- 7:00Coming up next, JAS Quintet saxophonist Joel Shotwell on the Dave Holley Hour.
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- 10:00Music.
- 10:01The Dave Hawley Hour, like eavesdropping on a great conversation between two
- 10:06very interesting people.
- 10:09Welcome back, everybody. Oh, my goodness.
- 10:12It is always so great. It is such a pleasure to talk Sioux Empire arts and entertainment.
- 10:19Always great to have a guest back from time to time.
- 10:23And, well, this guy's made a few multiple turns here around the wheel with Dave
- 10:28Holley Hour Joel Shotwell, how are you, my friend?
- 10:32I'm good, how are you doing? Glad to hear that I'm doing well,
- 10:34yeah And it's great to have you And, you know, here we are, it's Thursday and
- 10:39you're going to be playing this weekend Yeah, we get to play with JAS Quintet
- 10:44at the Flandreau Crystal Theater.
- 10:48And that's what JS doesn't get to play in Sioux Falls a whole ton,
- 10:52uh, just cause it's quintet and we do like kind of our own thing.
- 10:56So it's not kind of, it's usually not in the corner background music,
- 11:00although we do it and we love playing with each other no matter what,
- 11:03but, uh, it's kind of nice when it's special in a theater because we get to do our thing for real.
- 11:07And it's kind of the setting that, that size of group was meant to be in.
- 11:11So have you played there before? We have. Okay. Yeah.
- 11:14It's a great little show there once and loved it. Yep. Yep. Yeah.
- 11:18It's like one of these gems that exist all over the state.
- 11:21Actually, these, a lot of these small towns have these theaters and they've
- 11:24kind of people work in the town to keep them going or people will like re revitalize
- 11:29them and stuff like that.
- 11:30Yeah. Well, my hometown of Rock Rapids is hoping to do that at some point. That would be awesome.
- 11:34Got a lot of work to go on that one yet. Yep. Yeah. So that is a fun place.
- 11:38The Crystal Theater in Flandreau. Yep.
- 11:40Yeah. And what's so great about it is you go out there and, you know,
- 11:44the marquee that's still out there and so forth. Always a fun, fun time.
- 11:48It is. All right. So who will be involved in the quintet at this time about?
- 11:52The quintet is Jeff Paul on piano, Andrew Reinhart on bass, Jim Spears on trumpet,
- 11:58Dan Heyer on drums, and myself on saxophone.
- 12:02All right. You know, I've been thinking about this the other day because I was
- 12:06listening to some Golden Oldies and there were some sax parts in it.
- 12:10And I know we always talk, you know, when you are around, it's usually we're
- 12:13talking talking jazz and who your saxophone influencers were from the jazz area and so forth.
- 12:21But are there some great solos on the saxophone that you hear from time to time
- 12:27in pop music that you go, Oh man, I got to do that. Yeah. I mean.
- 12:33Sometimes like in pop music, I, I, it kind of, there, there's only like a couple
- 12:38that really, where I get that feeling where you're saying like, oh yeah, I got to do that.
- 12:42And one of them is like, you know, Wayne Shorter's solo on Asia, Steely Dan.
- 12:46And that, when I heard I was, that totally helped open my mind to the idea of
- 12:53like more pop saxophone in a way, but it's hard.
- 12:57Like I, I totally respect it. And part of it is like, I, when I,
- 13:01when I do, and I've tried to practice it and mimic that sort of style,
- 13:05I don't really quite feel right.
- 13:07Like it connects with me very much.
- 13:10Not that it, it never bothers me either. Like every time I hear it,
- 13:13I'm like, that is absolutely perfect.
- 13:15No one should ever ask me to do that because like i
- 13:18can't like i like it's like i don't find i'm
- 13:21not compelled to like work right that towards
- 13:24that but yeah there's like at like tom scott like at the stuff he does he's
- 13:29done tons of stuff and i'm sure you've heard like he was on all sorts of 80s
- 13:33records and does solo stuff and every time i hear him it's usually he was on
- 13:37that zilli daniel album too and it's usually like whoa this is somebody who
- 13:40does this the best as they can And it's like, is it lute to back?
- 13:43And I think on SNL, like, holy crap, like that's insane.
- 13:47Like, and I just can't, it's like an attitude, right? Like, and I admire it
- 13:53and respect it, but I don't have that sort of attitude.
- 13:56But to answer your question, yeah, that Wayne Shorter one is the only one that's
- 13:59really got me where I'm like, oh, like that's. I have to.
- 14:02Yeah, I would, I would love to be in those shoes, you know?
- 14:07All right. but in the meantime in the shoes that you are in jas how many years
- 14:11you guys been around now wow hmm people it's probably kind of like cliche to
- 14:17to say like oh i'm not quite.
- 14:21Sure yeah but i actually am i'm trying to think like probably 15 years uh we've
- 14:30awesome we've all been playing together for probably close to,
- 14:33close to 20 years like in some aspect right
- 14:37the jas was an accident kind not
- 14:40an accident we put the five of us together for a reason but you
- 14:44know it became jas and then it kind of just stuck that way like those things
- 14:48do uh because why not like oh we've been using it let's just use it so with
- 14:53that particular configuration of those five guys it's probably been 10 to 15
- 14:58years okay wow and And how many, do you still call them an album?
- 15:03I do, yeah. And we do other stuff too. Because you've got one up in a frame
- 15:07even up there. Oh, thank you. Yeah.
- 15:09Wow, that's awesome. And now I actually have a turntable that I can play shit
- 15:13on. Sweet. That's awesome.
- 15:17Yeah. Sorry, I got lost. Yeah, so how many albums have you been putting out then?
- 15:22Well, we've done as a band together too, but we've also done an album we played with Jamie Lynn on.
- 15:30That was hers we played on like half of one of hers we've also done little recording
- 15:35projects for for little things not like full albums so and there's always stuff on the horizon,
- 15:43or ideas like oh we could do this or we could do this you know
- 15:46when we do an album with the jas quintet
- 15:49it is a true jazz quintet and
- 15:52we it's meant to be live so right
- 15:55the recording a thing like that is worthy of
- 16:00putting on a final album we have to
- 16:02do it in a setting where it's like let's get the best sounds we
- 16:05can so it's a little more involved so it doesn't happen
- 16:08as often right yeah it's not like you know people putting
- 16:11out uh albums because part a was done in somebody's home part b was done and
- 16:17they all just find somebody to put it all together and go oh yeah it's nice
- 16:20mix yeah yep yeah which is a cool way to do it too like my last album we all
- 16:25recorded separately and did it that way. But with the quintet.
- 16:30It's just a different thing, so. Right. But yeah, we've been able to get some
- 16:36good live recordings of each other too, and that's been fun to listen.
- 16:40Is this your favorite group to be in?
- 16:42I think, yeah, I mean. Because you play in a variety of different bands and so forth.
- 16:47It's hard to say that like the favorite, but it definitely feels the most comfortable
- 16:52and at home. The most personable?
- 16:53The most, yeah. Yeah. And I mean, all the groups that I tend to play with,
- 16:57because I'm really picky,
- 16:59I don't, it really matters to me where I spend my time, you know,
- 17:03like, and I know that sounds like really stuffy, maybe, I don't know,
- 17:07but I don't, I don't want to leave my family to go spend time with people I don't love, you know?
- 17:13So like when I play with, you know, anybody else, the Hags, John Bakken,
- 17:18now I've played with some and other groups,
- 17:21it's always going to be people that I'm all in, but JAS definitely feels like
- 17:26the most, when we play together, it's like, oh, yeah,
- 17:30it matters that we've been speaking to each other in a musical way for 10 to 15 years.
- 17:36What do you like about everybody that's in your group? Well, I don't like them.
- 17:41Not the feeling you love them. Nothing, nothing. Those dirty bastards.
- 17:47No. No. do you
- 17:51want me to tell you what i like best about each one of them that would
- 17:54be wonderful okay okay i like that idea okay yeah
- 17:59so as a professional on a
- 18:02professional level i'll start with andrew and then
- 18:05i'll talk about their personal okay okay so andrew would
- 18:09be on the professional level obviously he plays upright
- 18:13bass and electric bass really really good
- 18:16professional level too he can communicate really really really well in fact
- 18:22like a lot of times i have to i run things through him or bounce ideas about
- 18:26communication off of him because i feel like that's probably one of my weakest
- 18:30points then he has a lot of experience that way also like if something goes wrong,
- 18:35in a musical setting especially when it comes to technology or any setting musically
- 18:41which happens all the time you're setting up you're sound checking things are
- 18:44going wrong he can He can usually kind of burrow in and figure those things
- 18:49out. And he does a good job. Yeah.
- 18:52On a personal level, he's just, you know, we camp together.
- 18:57I go stay at his cabin. You know, like we're raising children and we bounce.
- 19:03We talk about those. We have cigars. Yeah.
- 19:05Yeah. I mean, I just like his honesty. So Jeff, Jeff Paul, the piano player
- 19:11on a professional level, he's, he's one of the most interesting piano players
- 19:16that I've ever played with.
- 19:18He can, because he is open and we've done this for so long and he's patient with someone like me,
- 19:25how I, that's how I feel is he's been patient with me along my growth,
- 19:29you know, and I know he doesn't feel like that, but, but not
- 19:32doesn't feel like he's fathering or anything like that but
- 19:35you know what i mean like but you i'm trying to be overly humble
- 19:38right yeah i feel comfortable taking risks but he
- 19:41likes that and he'll go there and he and we
- 19:43can kind of discover it what's fun is that you know
- 19:47we all tend to go have our own dialect so professionally man
- 19:50he he listens so closely he
- 19:53knows exactly where i am in a musical phrase
- 19:56or idea even if i'm abstract i of
- 19:59feel like he knows what kind of abstraction i'm drawing from
- 20:02tech like just as far.
- 20:05As like theoretical ear knowledge like also
- 20:09if i'm moving in a pattern that's like
- 20:12logical but not typical
- 20:15he knows what that sounds like and he goes there with
- 20:18me that's the whole point of the music you know
- 20:21like there's a reason why some people play
- 20:24together all the time because they figured each other out you know so
- 20:27he i feel on a professional level that's jeff
- 20:30and he brings a lot of music to the table uh personal
- 20:33level same thing with we have cigars you
- 20:37know i went and saw his concerto tried to get as close
- 20:39as i could i made jokes that me and riley were
- 20:42gonna my daughter we're gonna throw things at him anyway yeah
- 20:48we we just are good good friends which is you know
- 20:50will be a common theme with every member of the band he has a
- 20:53a fine collection of hats too great collection of
- 20:56hats and i like his like kind of
- 20:59just passion about different things other than music because
- 21:03it's nice to know that i'm not the only weirdo out there
- 21:06that likes to obsess over other things you know
- 21:08you talk about the professionalism of those two especially
- 21:11andrew and jeff being in the south dakota symphony orchestra as well and absolutely
- 21:17knowledge that they have from from that and you know and by the way jeff is
- 21:22usually playing like an oboe or something when it comes to that yep so you know
- 21:26that it's the knowledge of other instruments it's the knowledge of how.
- 21:30Music in a classical way can be put together but by the same token doing jazz
- 21:35and how it can be improv yep yeah yeah i mean the more you know of any about
- 21:41the more you know the better,
- 21:43your ideas are, you know, like, and it can come from any place,
- 21:47you know, musically or outside of that.
- 21:49I think it's, that's really cool to know people like that. Yeah.
- 21:52All right. Moving on. Dan Heyer. Oh yes. Drummer Dan. Yeah. Drummer Dan professionally,
- 21:57like you can always leave it up to Dan.
- 22:00Like, you know, like I have ideas, like a lot of times.
- 22:05You know, everybody works a little differently. And what I noticed first with
- 22:08Dan professionally is that I used to maybe, and I don't know,
- 22:13you never know how you come across, but I used to be like, oh,
- 22:16I was thinking about drums like this. Maybe this could work.
- 22:18But with, with Dan, I can just say, oh yeah, it's kind of like faster and like,
- 22:25just kind of like throw like real abstract and then just know that he's going
- 22:29to kind of start tweaking that.
- 22:31And I don't need need to interject i just know that eventually he's
- 22:34going to stumble on something that i could have never fathomed and that'll
- 22:38be way better and every single time that seems to
- 22:40be the case i'm like oh damn and then he also like
- 22:43has the ability which this is what i really love
- 22:46everybody in the band but but the drummer can dictate a lot in a band like the
- 22:52drummer is basically in charge i think when we're performing especially in this
- 22:56aspect because he has the most power but dan Dan isn't afraid and he's good at changing on the spot.
- 23:04Like we, it's, we don't always play our tunes the exact same way.
- 23:08In fact, we sometimes we play them very differently and a drummer can impede that.
- 23:13If a drummer doesn't want to go where we're going, then we're,
- 23:16we're stuck going where he goes, you know, we could fight it, but it's all.
- 23:20So Dan has great, um.
- 23:23I mean, and obviously he's a great drummer too, and all sorts of styles.
- 23:27I like Dan too, because me and him go work with schools in the area too.
- 23:32Like band directors will hire us and we'll come work with their band clinic for an hour or two.
- 23:38And Dan's really good at that. He can take the rhythm section and he has great advice.
- 23:42And we work good as a team because we're kind of like go out at different angles.
- 23:46Personally, yeah, he's raising a daughter. And last snow day,
- 23:52last year, like he came over and played Ninja Turtles with us all day on the
- 23:56Nintendo Switch, you know, so.
- 23:59Nothing like knowing a military man that plays that. I know.
- 24:04Yeah. And he just sweet. He's always so chill.
- 24:07Yeah. Like he, like he, he handles things well, where I tend to get emotional.
- 24:12I let my emotions take over me sometimes. And then last but not least,
- 24:16Jimmy, on a professional level,
- 24:19we've like pretty much one of the first guys I played with when I moved back
- 24:22to Sioux Falls, like on a first guys that I was like, kind of like,
- 24:26oh, this, this guy is like, knows how to get gigs.
- 24:30And, and so, or he's like showing me that, oh yeah, if I, if I hustle too,
- 24:35I could probably do stuff also, you know, like, so I felt like I learned from him that way.
- 24:41And musically, we have grown up together in very formative years of our development.
- 24:47So, which on a professional level is really interesting and rare.
- 24:52And I never take it for granted that, and it's funny and we laugh,
- 24:58but it's also like a freaking miracle because we can do things wrong at the
- 25:03exact, we often will do it wrong at the exact same time, the exact same way.
- 25:07Rarely does one of us make a mistake.
- 25:10Not with the other person. And it's weird as hell. It's like,
- 25:14we've never played it that way before, but we did that time and we did it exactly together.
- 25:18When we're playing next to each other, we breathe together.
- 25:22It's like a unit because we play wind instruments too. It's a,
- 25:25it's a, it's a, it's really compelling.
- 25:30And it's a reason why we, people like this do it all the time.
- 25:34You know, like when you have a connection that deep, it's really amazing.
- 25:39Amazing like you know you get like it's almost like a form of
- 25:42like group meditation but with
- 25:46him it's so odd because there's a clear thing
- 25:50happening that you could no science could explain i don't think yet today you
- 25:54know what i mean right well quarks you know we know that the word chemistry
- 25:58is yeah yeah that's the thing there's magic we know that you know with some
- 26:05Some physics or whatever,
- 26:06like, you know, you can alter a cork here and it will alter the cork across
- 26:10the world or anywhere in the universe.
- 26:12Like that has to be happening on a musical level. And I don't mean that lightly,
- 26:16but something like that has to be happening.
- 26:19There's no other explanation for it unless the processing in our brain is just
- 26:23that amazing, which it might be. Who knows?
- 26:26Yeah. And what I love about it is the fact that you've mentioned it.
- 26:29Oh, here's these guys that they can impede it.
- 26:32They can take it a certain way. and then you're going okay
- 26:35all right and follow along but all of
- 26:38you have this trust amongst each other
- 26:41that it's gonna be great
- 26:44no matter what yeah and you talk about you
- 26:47know never playing the song the same way what are
- 26:49rehearsals like or do you guys not have to worry about rehearsal because you
- 26:53have all been doing it enough and you know what you're coming to the gig with
- 26:57it kind of depends like if it's we got together before we went west river this
- 27:01summer for a rehearsal because we hadn't played some of the tunes.
- 27:06We were trying new tunes out. Mm-hmm.
- 27:08And sometimes it's a matter of whoever wrote the tune just kind of wants to
- 27:12know what it feels like in that context.
- 27:15So we'll rehearse when there's new material like that, or if it's been a while,
- 27:20you know, or like if we can like just get together to play some new stuff, we will do that.
- 27:24We generally don't, unless we have a guest, like we had Andrea Ross.
- 27:29Yes. She, she sang with us for the SDPV thing.
- 27:32So we rehearsed with her on that way. Maybe we can get forms down if things
- 27:36are more like we have a guest, so we need to like, they're not going to know
- 27:39our language. You know what I mean?
- 27:41Or like, we don't know what they're capable.
- 27:45Like we, we can do whatever, but we don't want to make them feel uncomfortable.
- 27:48So yeah, we, we don't really rehearse much, you know.
- 27:52When you do, where do you rehearse? Andrew's basement. Andrew's.
- 27:55Okay. He's got a piano and nice.
- 27:57He's kind of got a little mini studio and a good space room for it.
- 28:01You know, it's kind of like it's set up kind of that way. So it's pretty nice.
- 28:04Just down the street. I know. Right here in the neighborhood.
- 28:06We talk about that often. Yeah.
- 28:09We should tell you sometime when you're where you can come and watch. Oh man.
- 28:12We're usually yelling at each other and like somebody will start punching someone else.
- 28:18Like Jan's throwing drumsticks. After everything you've said so far, I can.
- 28:23We actually rehearsed once like in Annie Younger's studio, her painting studio.
- 28:28And she had like a class there drawing and she was painting us.
- 28:31She is working on this painting of us rehearsing it's freaking amazing but
- 28:34anyway like somebody was was drawing and we were kind of like in between
- 28:36tunes they're like are you guys always this nice to each other and we're like i
- 28:40guess i mean this we're just talking like you know there's not like you always
- 28:45gotta you want to navigate like make sure you listen to everyone you know like
- 28:49sometimes people like i've played with groups coming into town like sometimes
- 28:53you get i'm not suckered and it's good experience right but sometimes you get
- 28:57like a call and some like Like there's a group in town,
- 28:59they're from Chicago and they're doing tunes from, I don't know what band and
- 29:02you're, they need a tenor sax player.
- 29:03So you go do that and you go to the rehearsal and the MD is just angry and yelling
- 29:08at everyone. And like, you're like, oh my God, don't screw up.
- 29:11I don't want this guy on my ass. Yeah.
- 29:14But then I do want them to hire me again. Yeah. And that, but maybe,
- 29:19I mean, it's usually, I've played with a few of those groups multiple times.
- 29:22It's fun, but it's also like, what a
- 29:25weird world to have to live in where you're doing in
- 29:28music and have to be yelling at somebody like what
- 29:31the hell yeah don't you think that's uh partly i
- 29:34i mean we talk about this so often on this show is the collaborative
- 29:38nature of the arts community here not
- 29:41the competitive yeah and so i'm sure that when you do work with people from
- 29:47out of town that there are different styles yeah i was thinking about that today
- 29:52with the front actually the competition we we have competition for sure right
- 29:56everybody wants to get their piece piece of the pie, but everybody
- 29:59will help each other get piece of the pie. Yeah, the idea of the competition isn't.
- 30:03Winning because there's no winning the idea of the
- 30:06competition is is like i was explaining this to a friend
- 30:09let's and you know what i think i've read this also in rick rubin's book the
- 30:14creative act if you haven't read it it's amazing it's one of the best things
- 30:16i've read in years and in one of the chapters a lot of that book just can reconfirm
- 30:22like some things in my head that i was like am i crazy for thinking this this
- 30:25is one of them that yeah i'm competitive i grew up doing doing sports all the time,
- 30:28but the competition is more like, I don't, I don't get mad losing.
- 30:34It's, it's the idea of that person just showed me what I'm capable of.
- 30:38You know what I mean? Like when I hear another saxophone player,
- 30:41I use this description, actually it played in a trio with John Bakken and Dan
- 30:44Heyer in a trio open for us.
- 30:47And Brian Hannigan was playing sax and he's a beast.
- 30:51And, and I could have listened to that 45 minutes of him playing and thought competitively,
- 30:55like i have to beat him but i was thinking competitively i
- 30:58was thinking like jesus this is amazing he's playing everything teach
- 31:02me he's showing me what i'm capable of but what
- 31:05do i do next so that it it it complements that so
- 31:08it told that the competition is good because it
- 31:11teaches you it doesn't matter if you're better what
- 31:14are you going to do that's yours you know what i mean right yeah stop
- 31:17comparing yourself to others yes it's not learn from others
- 31:20but yes it doesn't have to be that you have
- 31:23to be the same as someone else yeah
- 31:26yeah and the beatles and the beach boys did that yeah true like
- 31:30they were listening to each other's albums as they were making them they're like wow this
- 31:33is in it and admiration but then they're like let's make one better yep you
- 31:36know look what happened just beautiful art you haven't bought an ewe yet have
- 31:42you no i haven't any plans to no i don't think okay yeah nothing wrong it's
- 31:49the only type of person I know that can pull that off. He can and it's great.
- 31:53I think they're cool like I played one before but I just don't like,
- 31:56I love the I love the thing that the saxophone gives me too much, you know.
- 32:01Yeah. And I can't, it's hard for me to go to other, I play other instruments often but,
- 32:07When I'm, when I'm practicing, it's the sax in my hand because it's just,
- 32:11I have a certain amount of control over it so I can orate what I'm feeling.
- 32:16And it's hard to let that go.
- 32:17You know, I'd like to get a bass clarinet, a good one.
- 32:21Really? I love that. And it feels close to a saxophone.
- 32:25I, right now I have in my house a Contra bass clarinet, which is six foot tall
- 32:30and I'm playing it cause they needed somebody to, because the lady who usually
- 32:33plays it in the high plains woodwinds is going to have a baby.
- 32:36And so paul shelf who directs that said hey would
- 32:39you want to play contra base and i'm like well can i
- 32:42would you have one and they're like the group does you can have it
- 32:45and i'm like oh yes i will if
- 32:49i can have that in my house for like the next four months which i will it sounds
- 32:53amazing it is the coolest thing it's just and what will that be a part of that
- 32:59the high plains woodwinds high plains and the concert is maybe i can tell you
- 33:04when that concert is because some people may may want to go because it's kind of cool.
- 33:07Yeah. My wife plays saxophone in it.
- 33:10See, I did not know that. You didn't? No. High Plains, oh wait, April. It's a Sunday.
- 33:18Oh boy. Maybe I didn't put it in. Oh my God, I better find out.
- 33:22Yeah. I'll have to let you know at a later date.
- 33:25Yeah, she plays saxophone in it. So. Well, excellent. Yeah. I look forward to hearing that then too.
- 33:31But in the meantime, Saturday night you will be at Flandreau,
- 33:34in Flandreau rather, at the Crystal Theater.
- 33:38Some new music or basically some things you've been doing in the past and just
- 33:43revamped or what do we have?
- 33:44Saturday will be some new music from my album, and we're going to play a tune
- 33:49that Dan Heyer wrote and probably some of Jeff Paul's tunes that are new that
- 33:54a lot of people probably haven't heard, and a tune that Andrew wrote,
- 33:58which is like we've done experiments on it.
- 34:00But we played it, and every time it's one of those where we're finding it.
- 34:04And the last time, we kind of did something a little bit different on the radio,
- 34:08and it was really awesome.
- 34:10So a lot of new stuff. There won't be much that people have ever heard us do
- 34:14before, probably, and mostly original things.
- 34:17Any new albums in the works?
- 34:20No, not actively, but just...
- 34:25Personally, for me, just it's always a reset time right now.
- 34:29True. And it's hard to like, I feel like this just kind of waking up into doing work, good work again.
- 34:39It's hard to reset after a big project like the last one I had because I did
- 34:45a couple of projects with Mark Romanowski too.
- 34:47Who still has to be on this show. Yeah. He was just on the street too. That's right.
- 34:52But yeah, there will be stuff. I'm just trying to figure out what.
- 34:56Okay. Well, we look forward to it no matter what. Well, thank you.
- 34:59All right. And so you know the trick.
- 35:01Usually there's two questions that I ask at the end, but since you've been on
- 35:04enough and it is a new year, let's kind of go this way since you led into it
- 35:10perfectly by talking about getting recharged and so forth.
- 35:13Yes. Are you a resolutions person or a goal setter?
- 35:18Hmm. No, I don't set resolutions because I don't want to set myself up for disappointment.
- 35:23See, that's me. Yeah. And I don't, I don't set goals until I know I can execute them.
- 35:31So I will have a possibility of a goal in mind, but I won't commit to it until
- 35:37the commitment has to happen. If that makes sense.
- 35:42See, for me, I'm one of those that I don't do resolution because you're right.
- 35:46You know, usually within two weeks, everyone has broken the resolution.
- 35:49But if you have a goal, you get to the end of the year and you can mark off
- 35:53which ones you did and did not. Sure.
- 35:56And then you can say, okay, were we, you know, overshooting on what we should
- 36:02have been doing here on this one?
- 36:04Is it something that's still attainable next year? Sure. Is it okay that it's
- 36:07next year and it didn't happen this year?
- 36:09And you can look at it in a variety of ways instead of beating yourself up.
- 36:13Absolutely. Yeah. I like that.
- 36:15Yeah. And that's kind of the way that I go. But, uh, you know,
- 36:18I guess I have lists, you know, so a similar thing, I guess I don't think of
- 36:22them like goals, but that's good. Good point. They are goals.
- 36:25They're like, and I just look and see what I can accomplish and what I can't.
- 36:29And maybe the, the like, yeah. Okay.
- 36:31I even added a new section to everything for 2024 of work toward.
- 36:37Sure. Yeah. Not just, you know, here's a goal. You got to get this done or not.
- 36:41That's a good idea. Toward. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool.
- 36:45So looking forward to that, but always look forward to seeing you on stage. Yeah.
- 36:48And the people that you were with, obviously, are just top notch as well. So fantastic stuff.
- 36:54All right. You did say, you know, you were competitive in sports.
- 36:58What sports were you in? I was in bowling, fast pitch, softball,
- 37:03football, wrestling, basketball.
- 37:07I would have been in any sport that I could have been in.
- 37:11But there's some that just didn't work, you know, because you just only so much
- 37:15time, I guess, when you're a kid and your parents only have so much money,
- 37:18you know. I had you pegged as a wrestler.
- 37:20Oh, really? Yeah. Yes, which I was as well. That's awesome. We should wrestle.
- 37:24You want to wrestle? Oh, we can do it. I can't care down to arm wrestling at this age, though.
- 37:28Thumb wrestling. And I'm taking a look at your arms going, oh shit, I won't win.
- 37:33Thumb wrestle, we'll do that. Okay, we can handle that. All right.
- 37:37Joel Shotwell. So Saturday night, what time?
- 37:407.30. 7.30 in Flandreau at the Crystal Theater. How do we get tickets and how much are they?
- 37:46I think they're only 10 bucks at the door. 10 or 15 if you go to the Crystal
- 37:50Theater website, I think they're on there. Yeah, I know. I'm like, that's pretty awesome.
- 37:55Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's a great little venue, too.
- 37:59Really cool spot. We like playing there. The people there have always been super cool. Yeah.
- 38:03So. All right. Well, looking forward to it, my friend. Thanks,
- 38:07man. And as always, thanks for stopping by.
- 38:09Yeah. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. And we'll be back to wrap up the Dave Holley
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