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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 9-14-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Happy Monday, everybody! Welcome to the Sean O'Connell Show. Hopefully you.
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  Speaker 2: Had a wonderful weekend.
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  Speaker 3: No reason not to.
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  Speaker 4: Great weather, great football, interesting storylines unfolding in the sports
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  Speaker 4: landscape of our lovely home state.
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  Speaker 3: A full slate of NFL games this.
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  Speaker 4: Weekend, college football, a real Saturday night, night game, Rice
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  Speaker 4: Eccles Stadium. blowout win over Arkansas. Let's go, baby. The
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  Speaker 4: phone lines are open. The text line is open. We
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  Speaker 4: want to hear from you. 877-353-0700. What was your favorite thing?
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  Speaker 3: What was maybe your least favorite thing? We still have
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  Speaker 3: to nitpick. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: You can't just blindly jump on the bandwagon. Well, we're
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  Speaker 4: all on the bandwagon already. You can't just blindly steer
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  Speaker 4: the bandwagon and not expect that there's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a growing pain here or there, but so far so good.
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  Speaker 4: 43 to 10. And really it was 43 to three.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. 10 was against the backups.
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  Speaker 4: That second Arkansas Razorback scored and come until late in
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  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter after they put together like an eight
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  Speaker 4: minute scoring drive scoring with a field goal that is
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  Speaker 4: in the first quarter. And after that, it was all Utah.
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  Speaker 4: Devin damp here, 18 to 24, 261 yards. Two touchdowns
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  Speaker 4: through the air. He did throw the interception, got hit
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  Speaker 4: while he was throwing, and ball sailed over the middle
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  Speaker 4: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: You don't ever love to see that.
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  Speaker 4: Dampier added another two scores on the ground, so responsible
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  Speaker 4: for four touchdowns on the day. 11 carries for 50 yards.
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  Speaker 4: Way Sean Parker, another spectacular day in.
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  Speaker 3: His own right. 10 carries, 53 yards, and he is.
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  Speaker 4: He is your best pass catcher apparently as well, because
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  Speaker 4: for the second game in a row, he did things
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  Speaker 4: through the air, five catches, 65 yards and a touchdown.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to jump the line here and tell you
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  Speaker 4: that my favorite thing about the Utah wind against Arkansas
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  Speaker 4: is Mac G who we caught up with last week
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  Speaker 4: in coordinator's corner. You can find Kevin McGiven's conversation, Colton
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  Speaker 4: Swan's conversation here.
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  Speaker 3: On the Sean O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 4: You can find those things on the archives or in
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  Speaker 4: the archives at ESPN 700 sports.com or on the ESPN
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  Speaker 4: 700 app. And you will hear me talking to Kevin
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  Speaker 4: McGiven and asking him after the Idaho game, you know,
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  Speaker 4: how deep in the bag did you go? Mac G
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  Speaker 4: how creative was that? in the grand scheme of how
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  Speaker 4: creative you can be with this offense. And we saw again,
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  Speaker 4: a Utah football offense doing things that are just outlandish
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  Speaker 4: that are unorthodox, that are unique, that, that other teams
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  Speaker 4: in the country just are not going to do or
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  Speaker 4: not capable of doing right now because of personnel and
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  Speaker 4: whatever else. And you're doing it in games. You don't
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  Speaker 4: even have to do it. So the best stuff, right?
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  Speaker 4: He's saving the best stuff, but he's giving every team
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  Speaker 4: that Utah plays Utah state, Kansas and beyond. He's giving
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  Speaker 4: these teams something to think about. He's giving these teams
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  Speaker 4: something to wonder about. He's giving these teams something to
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  Speaker 4: stay up at night and ponder by.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, what is, what do we do?
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  Speaker 4: What do we even call a personnel grouping? If you know,
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  Speaker 4: if it's a, if it's 11 or 12 personnel, you're
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  Speaker 4: counting running backs and tight ends in the formation. What
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  Speaker 4: number do you have to give it if there's two quarterbacks?
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  Speaker 5: 877-353-0700.
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  Speaker 4: That's actually a genuine question that I have.
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  Speaker 3: Any of you high.
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  Speaker 4: School coaches, college coaches, pro coaches out there, what do
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  Speaker 4: you call that when you're scheming against it?
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: All right. They're out there in 12 personnel. Give me cowboy, cowboy, cowboy.
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  Speaker 3: All right. We need nickel, nickel, nickel, nickel.
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  Speaker 4: When you're the defensive coordinator and a team comes out
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  Speaker 4: with two quarterbacks on the field, what do you.
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  Speaker 3: Call that personnel grouping? What does it tell you that
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  Speaker 3: you have to do? That's what I love.
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  Speaker 4: That's my favorite thing right now about this Utah football team.
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  Speaker 4: You got good play from the offensive and defensive lines.
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  Speaker 4: You are continuing with the rotation and the figuring out things.
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  Speaker 4: We did not see Ike Garcia in the game the
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  Speaker 4: way that I thought we would. Cedric Jefferson is holding
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  Speaker 4: it down on the right tackle spot very well. Zaraway
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  Speaker 4: Williams is doing a good job out at the left
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  Speaker 4: tackle spot. I told you heading into the game against
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  Speaker 4: Arkansas that even though the team, the team itself, even
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  Speaker 4: though Arkansas is a squad, not that great. I told you,
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  Speaker 4: you probably have to worry a little bit about at
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  Speaker 4: least one or two guys on that, on that team,
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  Speaker 4: Morgan Scali. He pointed out Steven souls, Jr. Who is
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  Speaker 4: an edge rusher for them. He's built like a linebacker.
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  Speaker 4: He's a speed edge rusher.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: He's about 240 pounds. He's about 6'2. He's an athlete
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  Speaker 4: out at the edge, number 35. Morgan Scali had him highlighted.
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  Speaker 4: That's a guy who's going to be playing on Sundays, which,
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  Speaker 4: of course, will be determined at a later date. Quincy
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  Speaker 4: Rhodes Jr. is the guy that I was talking about,
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  Speaker 4: number 97. He came into the season less than 100%
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  Speaker 4: healthy against North Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: He played like he was healthy. against the University of Utah.
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  Speaker 4: When I say like he was healthy, I mean he
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  Speaker 4: played a snap count indicative of someone who is more
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  Speaker 4: close to full health against the University of Utah. And
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  Speaker 4: credit to this offensive line, neither of those guys did
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  Speaker 4: jack you know what. Neither of those guys made a
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  Speaker 4: play that really.
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  Speaker 3: Amounted to anything. Quincy Rhodes Jr. had one tackle. Steven
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  Speaker 3: Soles Jr. had one tackle.
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  Speaker 4: Arguably, the two best players on their front and maybe
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  Speaker 4: even on their entire defense didn't do anything. Joker Johnson
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  Speaker 4: ended up being, I think, their most impressive player on
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  Speaker 4: the day. Defensive back out of Hammond, Louisiana. He probably
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  Speaker 4: belongs somewhere on the ESPN all-name team, on the college
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  Speaker 4: football all-name team alongside Rabbit Evans and company. But Arkansas
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  Speaker 4: didn't do anything. Utah dominated this game the same way
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  Speaker 4: they dominated the Idaho game. In some ways, it was
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  Speaker 4: a cleaner, more impressive performance than the one that you
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  Speaker 4: had against Idaho. And you were doing it against guys
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  Speaker 4: from that sec talent pool. The must was chanting at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the game sec. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, all right, calm down. We love you must,
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  Speaker 4: but calm down. Arkansas is a terrible representative of what
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  Speaker 4: sec squads are actually going to look like this year.
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, Utah bent a
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  Speaker 4: little bit on that first defensive drive. Colton Swan then
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  Speaker 4: got things settled down, and you dominated this game from
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  Speaker 4: eight minutes into the first quarter all the way until
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  Speaker 4: about six minutes left in the fourth quarter. It was
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  Speaker 4: nothing but Utes. Well coached, well executed. physicality fun. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you could tell how much fun the guys are having
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  Speaker 4: out there and that's not even what it's about. We
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  Speaker 4: wish it's all it was about. The fans were certainly
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  Speaker 4: having a great time. Halftime was wonderful. Eric Weddle being
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  Speaker 4: inducted into the ring of honor is great to see
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  Speaker 4: our guy. Great to see the whole family got a
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  Speaker 4: chance to talk to his wife and got a chance
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  Speaker 4: to say hello to Weddle. The younger gauge was in
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  Speaker 4: the building and on a recruiting visit. really he was
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  Speaker 4: in the, he was in the building to be there
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  Speaker 4: to support his dad because he was not doing the
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  Speaker 4: recruit thing that, you know, pregame, everyone goes down on
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  Speaker 4: the sidelines, stands around the kind of support staff, the GM,
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  Speaker 4: all these people come over, they talk to you. Well,
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  Speaker 4: For those who are interested, Gage Weddle was not in
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  Speaker 4: that scrum. He was not in that mix. He was
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  Speaker 4: not doing that. Now, I think part of it is
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  Speaker 4: because there's no novelty. It's not exotic for him to
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  Speaker 4: be on a sideline where some of these guys, it's
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more of a privilege. I mean, Gage
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  Speaker 4: has grown up on college football and NFL sidelines.
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  Speaker 3: He's had access to the Utah football.
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  Speaker 4: Sideline basically whenever he wants it, whenever they're in town
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  Speaker 4: for his whole life.
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  Speaker 3: Tell you who was it.
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  Speaker 4: My guy, I saw my guy, Ty Sparrow, the father
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  Speaker 4: of Bodie Sparrow, the number one recruit in the state
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  Speaker 4: of Utah, who's a commit to Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 3: They were at the building. They were on the sideline.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to suggest that it actually means anything,
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  Speaker 4: but Utah trying to stay in the mix there, despite
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  Speaker 4: a strong verbal commitment from Bodie Sparrow to the Oklahoma Sooners.
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  Speaker 3: Look, Oklahoma, they lost.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma lost to Michigan. Utah won.
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  Speaker 4: According to my math, that means that the best player
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  Speaker 4: in the state should come to the University of Utah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's exactly how it worked. it worked. 877-353-0700.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me how you feel.
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  Speaker 4: Favorite thing you saw in the game and the least
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  Speaker 4: favorite thing that you saw in the game. I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to jump the line again. I'm going to tell you
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  Speaker 4: my least favorite thing about what I've seen now through
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  Speaker 4: two games for the University of Utah. You ended up
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  Speaker 4: with four sacks in this game, so that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 4: Nice to see you put up some numbers there.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is that two of those sacks were in
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  Speaker 3: mop-up time.
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  Speaker 4: You could make a case that John New Halls was
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  Speaker 4: borderline in mop-up time also. So really it was Jaimo
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  Speaker 4: who had an unbelievable game with his spin move interior
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  Speaker 4: pass rush sack early in the game in the second
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  Speaker 4: quarter that.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of like planted the flag for sack Lake city.
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  Speaker 4: The thing that I don't like the nitpicking thing for me,
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  Speaker 4: and we're going to be overwhelmingly positive today because I
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  Speaker 4: want to make sure you all know that I know
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  Speaker 4: this was an overwhelmingly positive outcome. This was a great
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  Speaker 4: game for the university of Utah. It was an excellent
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  Speaker 4: step forward. It was moving at the right pace, in
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  Speaker 4: my opinion, and it's a confidence builder, but We are
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  Speaker 4: now two games in, and there's no defensive end. There's
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  Speaker 4: no edge rusher with a sack for this Utah football.
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  Speaker 5: Team.
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  Speaker 4: Twice now, we've seen Lance Holtzclaw almost, but you don't
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  Speaker 4: get almost stats. I guess that's not true. You do
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  Speaker 4: get almost stats. They're called QB hurries. And I actually,
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  Speaker 4: when he was... he had exited the building. He, he
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  Speaker 4: was walking on fourth South with his family post game.
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  Speaker 4: And I, you know, he was lamenting how close he
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  Speaker 4: was when he, he executed his own spin move. And
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  Speaker 4: then what, you know, didn't quite gather himself and finish
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  Speaker 4: the play and make the tackle.
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  Speaker 3: That was my least favorite thing.
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  Speaker 4: Now, two weeks in a row, you don't have any
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  Speaker 4: defensive ends with sacks. And I want this pass rushing squad.
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  Speaker 4: I want sack Lake city to be sack Lake city.
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  Speaker 4: And you're not going to be, if your defensive ends starts,
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  Speaker 4: don't start piling up the, the pass rushing stats. That's my, again,
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  Speaker 4: it's a nitpick, but right now, Nate Tailman's got a sack.
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  Speaker 4: Carson Kalfusi interior D lineman's.
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  Speaker 3: Got a sack.
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  Speaker 4: Jai Mo's got a sack. Elijah Ellis has a sack. John,
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  Speaker 4: who Hall's got a sack.
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  Speaker 3: Ethan day. I need you, bud.
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  Speaker 4: Paul Fitzgerald, cash, Dylan, Lance holds claw.
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  Speaker 3: We need sacks out of you.
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  Speaker 4: And I know we're only two games in and hopefully
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  Speaker 4: that'll come, but I'm answering my own question.
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  Speaker 3: That was my least favorite thing about this game.
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  Speaker 4: I thought there were opportunities for that position group to,
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  Speaker 4: to start piling up their own stats. 877-353-0700 on the
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  Speaker 4: text line or the phone lines.
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  Speaker 3: Who's calling? We have Mike from Harriman. That's James, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, behind the glass. Mike from Harriman, how are you?
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  Speaker 7: I'm good. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm great. Tell me what you think.
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  Speaker 7: So, first, what I like is Ficklin's an absolutely great passer.
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  Speaker 7: I hope Utah holds on to him as we go
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  Speaker 7: forward because I think he's a really, really strong passer
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  Speaker 7: and a great runner. It's not what I don't like.
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  Speaker 7: It's what I have a question about our ability to
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  Speaker 7: establish the run with a running back in like Parker
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  Speaker 7: running the ball. Maybe they're just not giving it to
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  Speaker 7: him enough. 51 yards seemed a little light to me.
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  Speaker 7: Comment on that if you would.
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  Speaker 3: I understand what you're thinking. I understand how you feel.
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  Speaker 4: I want you, instead of looking at his total yards
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  Speaker 4: in a game, to look at his average. His rushing
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  Speaker 4: average is going to be something because the multiplicity of
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  Speaker 4: this offensive playbook... Kevin McGibbon is not the dude who says,
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  Speaker 4: all right, three yards in the cloud of dust, three
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  Speaker 4: yards in the cloud of dust, three yards in the
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  Speaker 4: cloud of dust. It's just not going to be the thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be unorthodox. It's not what Utah fans
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  Speaker 4: are accustomed to seeing. Now, I think it's unconventional for
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  Speaker 4: Utah in a way that we're all going to grow
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  Speaker 4: to really love and like. Way Sean Parker so far
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  Speaker 4: on the season is still averaging 5.6 yards a carry,
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  Speaker 4: which is right in that same category he was at
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  Speaker 4: last year. 22 carries, 124 yards, three touchdowns, 5.6 yards
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  Speaker 4: per carry. He's also been remarkably active in the passing game.
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  Speaker 4: He's already got 22 catches. Oh, excuse me. He's got
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  Speaker 4: eight catches, 22 rushes. He's got eight catches for 88 yards.
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  Speaker 8: So he's.
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  Speaker 4: Way Sean Parker is giving you almost six yards every
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  Speaker 4: time he runs the ball and he's giving you an
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  Speaker 4: average of first down yardage. Every time he catches a pass,
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  Speaker 4: he's got an even split of three rushing touchdowns and
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  Speaker 4: three passing touchdowns. It doesn't look the way we're used
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  Speaker 4: to having it look. but it is production. And I
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  Speaker 4: think it's still okay to question whether or not this
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  Speaker 4: offensive line is going to be able to pin its
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  Speaker 4: ears back and run just like a traditional power, a
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  Speaker 4: traditional counter, a traditional dive, even a zone read, and
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  Speaker 4: get the push that they need and make sure that
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  Speaker 4: you can actually move the ball and run four-minute offense
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  Speaker 4: and gobble up clock if you're trying to milk a
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  Speaker 4: lead or things like that. You have not been put
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  Speaker 4: in that situation as of yet, but when you're running
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  Speaker 4: the football, you're running it to a nice, healthy average.
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  Speaker 4: And that I think should be enough for us so far.
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  Speaker 4: It's a great question, Mike. It's a fair question.
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  Speaker 3: I'll see.
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  Speaker 9: Cause that's one of the things I think all of
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  Speaker 9: us are like, we know how much it matters to
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  Speaker 9: way Sean Parker to get over the thousand yard mark.
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  Speaker 9: And it matters historically because, It's like having your best
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  Speaker 9: player be a 300 hitter in baseball. If you're under 300,
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  Speaker 9: if you're 280, it's not bad. It feels much better
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  Speaker 9: to have your best player hit over 300. Running back,
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  Speaker 9: if you get 980, 960 in a season, that's really good.
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  Speaker 9: It feels way better if you've got a one in
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  Speaker 9: front of it. I think that's top of mind for everybody.
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  Speaker 9: He hasn't had a ton of rushing yards the first
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  Speaker 9: couple games.
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  Speaker 4: Way Sean might not get 1,000 yards rushing this season,
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  Speaker 4: but guess what? Way Sean might end up being like
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  Speaker 4: an eight 50 rusher and a six 50 pass receiver.
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  Speaker 4: And that is more impactful for Utah winning football games.
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  Speaker 4: I would rather have way Sean Parker rush for 750
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  Speaker 4: yards and have Utah be a 10 win team than
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  Speaker 4: have him run for a thousand yards and have Utah
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  Speaker 4: be a nine win team. And I think that that's Kevin.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I know that's Kevin McGiven's priority.
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  Speaker 4: Way Sean has zero room for, And he's not doing this.
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  Speaker 4: This is us doing it. Way Sean has zero room
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  Speaker 4: to say, oh, no, I don't like the way that
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  Speaker 4: I'm being used right now. Way Sean gets the ball
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  Speaker 4: and way Sean is a playmaker in both the pass
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  Speaker 4: and the run. There will be a time this season
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  Speaker 4: where you have to run four minute offense. You have
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  Speaker 4: to run the ball. where maybe Devin is a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more hobbled or a little bit banged up from
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  Speaker 4: excessive contact. Cause he's been getting hit a lot, right?
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  Speaker 4: Or maybe you don't want to run bird too much
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  Speaker 4: or whatever reason where way Sean, they're going to be like, dude,
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  Speaker 4: you got to run.
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  Speaker 3: We need to run, run, run. You need eight carries
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  Speaker 3: on this drive.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing has been done so far that would suggest that's
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  Speaker 4: not possible for either way, Sean, or for the offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: It is a valid question. I'm glad Mike brought it in. 877-353-0700.
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  Speaker 4: But right now, I mean, a far more important stat
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  Speaker 4: for a guy who is your leading rush opportunities guy
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  Speaker 4: is how many times am I handing the ball off
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  Speaker 4: to him? If this offense says it's not going to
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  Speaker 4: be 20 times a game, then in those 10 or
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  Speaker 4: in those 12, you need him averaging over five yards.
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  Speaker 4: And Weishan is right there. He's exactly where you need
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  Speaker 4: him to be. He's a really good player and he,
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  Speaker 4: they were teasing all spring long and all camp long
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  Speaker 4: about how watch what he can do in the passing game.
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  Speaker 3: Also look what he has done so far in the
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  Speaker 3: passing game.
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  Speaker 4: He put the moves on that cat down and like
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  Speaker 4: catches the ball about the nine yard line. He put
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  Speaker 4: the moves on a defensive back for Arkansas that that
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  Speaker 4: juke is going to haunt that safety for the rest
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  Speaker 4: of his life. He's going to wake up in cold
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  Speaker 4: sweats remembering a night game at Rice Eccles Stadium, not
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  Speaker 4: because the must was so scary and loud, and they
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  Speaker 4: were scary and loud, but because down in the north
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: end zone, Way Sean Parker, who's a guy, let's be honest,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: every one of these SEC cats think he's not as
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: good as me, he's not as fast as me, he's
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: not as strong as me, he's not as agile as me.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Way Sean Parker made him look like he was a
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: little league player. He's never going to get over that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: That's one.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: There's like five or six plays in every football player's
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: career where you, you have bad dreams about them for
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: the rest of your life. I could name at least
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: five for me. And I never got to play on
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: quite this stage. That guy is going to have to
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: seek counseling for the move that way.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Sean Parker put on him.
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: Speaker 3 I played way lower in my sport basketball,
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: way lower stage than you even played in football OC.
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: And I have nightmares about certain things that happened where
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: I'm like, I probably would have played at a higher
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: level if maybe I didn't get embarrassed like that in
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: my sophomore year, for example. So yeah, it, this is
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: going to live with that guy forever.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Probably.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: And like 27, they're running back who picked up a
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: late a gap blitz from Cyrus Polu that had, it
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: was a great blitz pickup actually, but he got annihilated.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: He will not have to suffer the pains of recurring
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: nightmare over it because no way he remembers that hit.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: That guy like Utah imposing its will over guys of
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: this size and athletic system was actually one of the
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: more important things that we saw in this game. You
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: needed to be able to run away from the sec
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: defensive backs. You needed to be able to run over
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: the sec tacklers or the sec blockers. And Arkansas can't
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: give you any more than that. They're not a good
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: enough football team yet as a team, as a unit,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: as a squad to be disciplined and to be, you know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: clean and execution. They weren't, I under, I overestimated, I
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: underestimated the gap between these two programs. I overestimated the
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: progress that Arkansas would have made, should have made because
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: they've got a new coach from Memphis because what do
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: we have?
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: We have all these great examples of regionally here.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: When you promote a guy from UNLV to wherever, he
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: does a pretty darn good job. When you get a
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: guy who's stepping up and getting his first opportunity, he's
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: going from Boise to Washington or something, it's like, oh,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: this is working out pretty nice.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: They've done some nice things there.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: And I've always been a believer that if you can
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: do it at the lower level, you'll do it to
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: an even better level. success rate at the higher level.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And Silverfield, I thought was out. He did some nice
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: things with Memphis. He's going to do some nice things
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: with Arkansas and it'll probably happen pretty quick. It's not
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: going to happen quick, man. Arkansas, they got some big
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: old fat offensive linemen that look nice off the bus.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: And then your five foot 10 Jai Moa makes them
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: look silly, right? But what you saw, what, what Arkansas
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: could give you in this game was a litmus test
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: of where you are at an individual matchups, not in
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: team and scheme. Utah is so far ahead of them
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: right now. Team scheme and culture. Arkansas is good. Like
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Ryan Silverfield is going to put on a mustache and
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: one of those inspector gadget noses. And he's going to
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: come to a Morgan Scali coaching clinic in the summertime
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: and be like, please teach me what you have done
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: in in a nine month turnaround. And, you know, it
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: kind of a weird and ugly exit from your predecessor
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: and look at where all these players are for you
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Show me how you did that. Arkansas couldn't, hold your water.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: On the team scheme and culture, but they do have
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: some big boys that run fast forties. And so when
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: you are in space and you got to break down
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: and you got to tackle that guy, that's where they
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: are important. That's where you're finding some things out when
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: you're in the box and you've got to get past
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: this blocker in order to make that tackle, you got
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: to run through this block or you don't even have
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: to run through it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: You just got to hold the point of attack.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: So that John O'Hall or Lance Reynolds or Jackson Benny
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: can come up and clean up the pile. That is
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: where this Arkansas matchup was valuable for Utah. And they
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: passed those tests. That was something that I was really
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: excited to see. I overestimated Arkansas's ability as a team.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Arkansas clearly underestimated Utah's ability as individual physical athletes. And
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: in a lot of those matchups, the Utes just made
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Arkansas look silly. Go back and watch the YouTube replay
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: where everything else is cut out.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: And it's really just highlights. It's just bang, bang, bang, bang.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: And YouTube, they don't have any sort of horse in
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: the race. So they give you the best plays, the
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: most impactful plays for both teams. And there's about an,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I think it's like a total of like a 10
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: minute video. There's about seven minutes in the middle where
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Arkansas is not making any plays.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: It's all Utah.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Guys doing Utah guy stuff.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: 0070 says, my least favorite from the game is our
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: starting quarterback in the game of the fourth quarter of 36-3.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: If he got hurt on that last touchdown, we never
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: would have heard the end of it. That is a good,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: that is a strong observation. You have to find the
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: right balance between sending the message to your team. We're
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: going to compete for all four quarters and also sending
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: the message like.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: That'll do pig. That'll do right. Big suey. You got it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: You go, you say, I mean, you can, we can
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: have you run this ball and.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Put your shoulder down and find the end zone one
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: last time.
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: Or we.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Could let bird Ficklin do that because he's our backup
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: quarterback or better yet.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: We could let.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Somebody like Hunter Andrews do that out of a wildcat
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: because he's not a quarterback for us at all.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: We can get Brandon Rose, get some time again, like
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: put the Rose out there. I was, I wanted to
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: see bam again. I want it like this.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: This game was no more in doubt than Idaho was
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: in doubt in the fourth quarter.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: There was, it's true. There was no more.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: There was like Arkansas did drive down and they got
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: their kind of meaningless score toward the end.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: But like.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: The result of the game was no more up in
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: the air than the Idaho game was in the fourth quarter.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: You could absolutely have been like, all right, put it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Brandon Rose out there, put Matiaki Helu in the backfield,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: put bam in the backfield, put They did put your
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: number two defense out there. They did start to, to
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: filter in the backup offensive line. You can put them
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: all the skill guys out there. You didn't need Devin
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: in there.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: So, all right, if we're nitpicking, which is what we're
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: going to do on a Monday, that's fine.
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: He doesn't need to be there.
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: I would have liked to see it go to bird quicker,
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: turn it over to bird quicker. And then I would
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: have liked to see Brandon Rose maybe in the game
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: because birds is a really important part of this, offense too.
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: And he's more than just an insurance policy. If, if
• 26:38
  Speaker 9: Devin gets hurt, but he's also a gigantic insurance policy
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: in that way. So I would have liked to see
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: that too, up 36 to three, but the point is
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: no one got hurt. And so everything, everything worked out fine.
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: I do wonder, Oh, see this still just being the
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: second game of the season. Is it to the team's
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: detriment that Devin gets less reps, right? less game reps,
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: even though he's third year as a starter in college football,
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: second year at Utah. He's got plenty of game experience
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: for this season. Even though you're up 36-3, that's probably
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: a reason why you still keep him in, right?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I think it's all right to just not have him
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: in because he is experienced enough.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: There's no question.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: And look, dev does not want to come out and
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: dev does not want to shy away from contact and
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: slide and do the things that all of us want
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: him to do to protect his body. He's a competitor.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: He is a football player, right? And he's a healthy
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: football player right now. When you're that age, just Close
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: your eyes and rewind. All of us felt like we
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: were invincible at that age, and we were not even
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: close to as invincible in real life as that athlete is, right?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: So he wants to play, and he wants to do
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: these things.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Part of the job of a first-year head coach and
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: a first-year coordinator is to say, this game is in
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: the bag, and we have won it. It's all right
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: for us if the score is 43-17 or even 43-24
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: at the end of this thing. We don't need for
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Devin Dampier to be out there. Or, I guess, in
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: the Devin Dampier case, it's okay if this game is
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: 36-17 or 36-24.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Although, in that case, I would have been mad because
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: then they wouldn't have covered. And great teams cover. Yeah.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Not because you had money on the game or anything, right?
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Picks I put out there, James, because you're giving me
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: an opportunity to gloat.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: The picks I put out there.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I do five games a weekend in college football, five
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: and oh, this week.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: Oh wow.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. That you patting myself on the back five
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: and oh, let's go. Congratulations.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Let's think about being five. And I was a chance
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: to go 10 and oh, next weekend. We have lots
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: to talk about from this game. 877-353-0700. Keep the feedback coming.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I want to try to stay on clock. Ari Temkin
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: joins us next. We have the Morgan Scali presser live
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: at noon. Ryan Edwards, Denver Broncos insider, and Zach Moss
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: all joining us on the show today.
• 29:16
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• 29:18
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• 29:32
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• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell show on a Monday
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: reacting to a big weekend in Utah football and big
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: 12 football.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Lots of crazy cool stuff happened.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Ari Temkin joins us to discuss all of them.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Big 12 radio on tune in. Hello, Ari. Welcome.
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: What's up, buddy?
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: How are you?
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm Fired up.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I didn't even realize how fired up I am over
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: a big Utah win, an impressive BYU win, Oklahoma State,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: what the heck happened?
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: You lose to Tulsa, you beat Oregon.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Man, this is a really interesting Big 12 conference already.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Let's start with the Utes, if you don't mind.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: We know Arkansas is not exactly, you know, the flag
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: bearer for the SEC, but it is a team with
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: some athleticism and some talent, and Utah beat the brakes
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: off of it, Rice Eccles.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: See anything you liked?
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: Well, the first play from scrimmage. How about a pass
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: to your backup quarterback and then a 36-yard pass out
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: of the field? I mean, I think we've talked about
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: it last week and really for the last couple of weeks,
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: but we certainly expected to see more fun. And Morgan
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: Scali is a lot of fun. I mean, and, you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: all joking aside with, I mean, they have just absolutely
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: taken it too far. Idaho and now Arkansas back-to-back weeks.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: And they're obviously going to have much more difficult games,
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: but I just think the feeling of this offense is
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: something that we've really never seen before just because of
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: the limitations of the previous offense. And, you know, I mean,
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: I've watched Andy Cole and Nikki call games for Kansas
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: very successfully running a very similar offense, but they've never
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: had the types of players that Utah has running this offense.
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: So when you've got Ficklin and Dan Pierre and Wayshawn
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: Parker in the backfield, I think there's so much you
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: can do. And again, And then there's so much off
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: of that that you can do, and the beauty is
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: in the simplicity of it. So let's go. But, I mean,
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: it's fun to watch. I certainly wanted to see some
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: of this when it came to what they have, and
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: we're seeing it. And what was it like? It was 7-3,
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: and then you look up and it's 36-3?
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, a little mop-up time touchdown for Arkansas.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: One criticism, because we like to– We like to say
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: the things we like, but also be actual football fans
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: and be unrealistic and nitpicky and things like that. One
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: of the concerns that people are bringing in that I
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: think is a valid one is, you know, Devin Dampier
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: is getting hit a lot with some of this creativity
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: in the offense and using him as a runner and
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: even late in that game when you're, The game is
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: in hand. It was 36-3 when he scored his last touchdown,
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: and people are like, why is he the one running
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: the ball there and taking a big lick from a
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: safety or whatever? And look, Devin's a competitor. He's a
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: great athlete. He's a football player. He wants the ball
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: in his hand. He wants to be in there to
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: the final whistle. But is that something that this coaching
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: staff needs to mitigate when you're in a game that's
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: already decided?
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: The short answer there is yes. I don't think it's
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: something that you really have to concern yourself with in
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: a close game. You know, I mean, I think he's
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: built for this and football is a dangerous sport where
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: injuries are going to happen. So, you know, because there's
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: always the talk about like, oh, do you want to
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: limit the hits your quarterback takes? you know, within a game.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: And I certainly understand that, but I just think that
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: it makes them so dangerous that I wouldn't, but yeah,
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: I mean, in a game that is all but decided,
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: you know, I mean, I would, I would like to
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: see somebody not named Devin Dampier, Bert Ficklin and, or
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: a way Sean Parker getting the hits at the end
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: of that, that type of game. I mean, when you're a,
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: was it was 43 to three at that point where,
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: I mean, yes, 36 to three at that point when
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: you're in the fourth quarter, like, I think that's, that's
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: a fine time. And I agree with some of the
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: criticisms there. You just, you cannot leave yourself susceptible to
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: those kinds of hits because that's when things happen. I mean,
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: you know, at the end of the game for UCF,
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: this was a close game, but you know, Alonzo Barnett
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: got hurt on one of the, you know, the final
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: drive there. And, and, So now they're going to be
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: without Alonzo Barnett for some time at UCF. And that's
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: a close game, so it's not exactly apples to apples.
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: But at the end of games, especially in a blowout
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: where Arkansas is, they might have more of an incentive
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: to go after you in a way that they weren't earlier.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: In the game.
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: I'm talking about consciously trying to injure players.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Also on Saturday was our first conference game, Big 12 game, BYU-Arizona.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: And these are two teams that both have designs on
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: significant accomplishment in the conference championship race this year. Arizona
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: going to Provo, and there's always conversation about whether or
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: not that atmosphere and that altitude are affecting people. Brent
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Brennan insisted that the atmosphere didn't bother us.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And then, of course.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: The folks at Lavelle Edwards Stadium decided that they were
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: going to be extra loud because of it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: It was an awesome game. It was a great game.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Ultimately, BYU pulls away and wins it 28-17. They held
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Arizona scoreless in the second half after trailing at halftime.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: BYU ends up on top of this one. It really
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: kind of was the feature game of the week for
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: the conference.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: What were your takeaways?
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, first and foremost, take a bow, Kelly Papinga, because BYU,
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: I certainly had some question marks about him heading into
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: the season. And even after one week, given that it
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: was Utah tech, and we didn't really know much about
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: BYU following that game, but look, I mean, Jay Hill
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: was a legend. I mean, he did the damn thing
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: for Michigan this weekend too. And so, you know, I was,
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: I was curious how Popengo would be different and, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: would he still be as effective at the back end?
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: And I mean, that, that second half number was insane
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: compared to what they did in the first half. Now I,
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: I also credit, uh, Aaron Roderick and the BYU offense
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: figuring out that you've got LJ Amart in the backfield
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: and maybe more than four carries is the way to go.
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: Because in the second half... you know, Arizona ran 20
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: plays in the first half. They ran 42 plays. What
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: does that attribute it to? Well, if you, this is
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: your identity at BYU, you can run the football and
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: limit opportunities for the opposition. And that's exactly what they did.
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: They played great defense. They ran the ball effectively and suddenly,
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: you know, a dominant offensive first task for Arizona becomes
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: a very quiet second half. And that's, that's the identity
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: of BYU. You know, I mean, not every team knows
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: what its identity is two weeks into the season and
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: what they can fall back on. And, I mean, that
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: to me was as clear as day in that game
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: that like, ultimately they figured out the second half, like,
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: oh yeah, we can run the ball and we're pretty
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: good at it. And, you know, and then they made
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: some adjustments to the back end of their defense because
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: throws in the second half for Fafita, everyone was underneath.
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: You know, especially they turned over on downs on fourth
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: and four, throwing short of the sticks on fourth and four.
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: Are you kidding me? And third and eight in the
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: same situation. And we saw them on third down continuously
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: throw short of the sticks, hoping receiver would go pick
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: up yardage. So, you know, I think Seth Daigie in
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: the Arizona offense didn't really adjust to what Kelly Papinga
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: and that BYU defense did. And that's why you kind
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: of saw the zero score in the second half. And then,
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: I mean, look, this game also in the margins, I mean,
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: there was– had really bad penalties by Arizona in this game.
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: There was a dropped interception by JV on Cole early
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: in the game. And, you know, look, I think, I
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: don't know that I've, I've seen BYU ever have a
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: weapon quite like legend Glass or two games into his career,
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: but even just not even just his production, I think
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: he'd like three catches and the one at the end
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: that basically Clint to the 61 yarder, but earlier BYU
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: scored a touchdown with him being a decoy. And then
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: the exact same play they ran later is what he
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: had the 61 yard around. So I'm already seeing him now.
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: I had a major question about Arizona secondary heading into
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: this season. You know, they started a walk on and
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: a secondary in the last year included four NFL players
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: and a fifth that was an undrafted free agent. So
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: it's a totally different secondary. And, you know, I still
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: have some questions about what BYU can do against really
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: good past defenses, but in the reality, the reality of
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: the situation is two weeks in BYU is clearly the
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: best team in the big 12. It's not even close. Yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: As much as people on this station don't want to
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: hear that right now, uh, I think BYU and Utah,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: you can make a case for the top two teams.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: BYU has the most impressive win with a win over Arizona, obviously.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: But Texas Tech escaped against Oregon State. They didn't look
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: all that impressive in week one against Abilene Christian either.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: What do the Red Raiders have to figure out right now, Ari?
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and see, that was pretty much, in my statement
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: a moment ago, who I was referring to. I mean,
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: you could show this case for Utah, and I think
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: there are multiple teams in this conference that have looked
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: really good through two weeks on both sides of the ball.
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: Texas Tech has not. And look, Oregon State is very good.
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: Braden Atkinson is a dude. And it's funny because watching
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: the game, it kind of felt like to me that
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: both Atkinson and their true freshman wide receiver, Jesse Legree,
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: are both going to be playing for Texas Tech.
• 38:30
  Speaker 12: Year.
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: I mean, like the green was insane. It is second
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: career college game. He was incredible. I mean, it's wild
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: to see that like a three-star that goes to Oregon
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: state blows up as a true freshman, but that stuff
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: can happen. And that that's what we saw. You know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: all credits to what Shepard has done in year one
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: for him at Oregon State. I mean, they are 0-2
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: with two very close losses to two very good Big
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: 12 teams, both of who are going to meet now
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: next week on Friday night in Houston and Texas Tech.
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: This game, don't let the score fool you.
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: This game was very close. In fact, Braden Atkinson got
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: the ball back with two timeouts and a minute 40
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: left on the clock down to four. And they converted
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: a fourth and three, but they were penalized for a
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: pick play on it. And Brian Kelly on the call,
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: as we all know, basically said like, yeah, sometimes they'll
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: call that. Sometimes they won't. It's a very gray area
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: when it comes to pick plays. And on this particular,
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: in this particular moment, they, they called it and it
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: was a huge break for Texas tech because instead of
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: converting the fourth down and moving the chains and now
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: the clock's moving and you know, they're, they're closer to scoring.
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: Now it's fourth and nine and they get to stop
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: there to, to basically win the game. So yeah.
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: The score is a bit deceiving there. They really were
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: the beneficiaries of a, of a pick play penalty there
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: that could have gone either way and certainly went the
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: way of Texas tech, which.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: I guess is good for the conference because you want
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: your presumed presumptive best team to be two and Oh,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: you don't want to have to deal with the narrative
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: change around that, especially, you know, losing to a team
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: like Oregon state. But I think your point is well made.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: I think Texas tech is, has shown a couple of
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: warts here, and they're going to have to figure that out,
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: not only down the road, but like you said, Friday
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: against Houston. Maybe the most interesting story is Oklahoma State,
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: because you lose in week one to Tulsa, 24-10.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: And then a.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: Lot of folks think that Oregon is not just a
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: threat in the Big Ten this year, but a national
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: championship threat, or at least they thought so. before this weekend, 39,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: 31 victory for Oklahoma state as the ducks come to town.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Obviously the biggest win so far in the, in the
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: big 12 season and for true mess to maker. And
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: for all those guys who came from North Texas, I
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: imagine this is exactly why they did to have an
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: opportunity to do things like this. Oklahoma state pulled it off.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Where does that put them in the big 12 power structure?
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, after one week, it looked like they
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: were an afterthought in that conversation. And now it puts
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: them firmly back in that conversation. I think we all
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: expected Oklahoma State to start one-on-one. Certainly not this way, though. Yeah, and,
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: you know, we've watched college football for a long time. Like,
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: it's funny. It's like I feel like shame on me
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: for not learning my lesson time after time that, like,
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: Crazy things happen week to week, especially the first couple
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: of weeks of the season. And for everything that Oklahoma
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: State did not do right week one, it seems like
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: they did it right week two. Now, with that being said,
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: Oklahoma State still kept the door open for Oregon to
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: walk through. That game probably should have been more of
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: a blowout. Oregon basically had two pick sixes in this game.
• 41:50
  Speaker 11: They had one.
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: And then another that they cash in a play later. So,
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: I mean, you gift wrap them 14 points from, you know,
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: from interceptions and now mess maker has four picks in
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: two games. But I mean, this win was not a fluke. They,
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: they beat them up front on both lines of scrimmage.
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: I think the office of line one was the shocker
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: given what Tulsa did them along with their defensive line
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: last week. And Oregon, I mean, that was a defensive
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: line that absolutely whooped Texas tech in their bowl game.
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: And basically everybody from that line is back. And somehow
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: Oklahoma State, without their left tackle, just absolutely bullied them.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: It was crazy to see. I mean, numbers can be funny.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: The last time that Oklahoma State beat an FCS team
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: was September 7, 2024, when they beat Arkansas 39-31. Two
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: years later, their next FBS win comes against a big
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: 10 team, 39 to 31, the exact same score. They
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: still haven't won a big 12 game in two years,
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: but you'd think that will end this year. And yeah,
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: they've had not beaten a big 12 team, but they've
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: beaten an SEC team and now a big 10 team.
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: Pretty remarkable. I mean, there's so many ways to look
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: at it. And ultimately, Messermaker did have those two interceptions, but...
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: He was in complete command the majority of this game.
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: I mean, he had this ridiculous run on third down
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: where it'll be one of the biggest touchdowns you'll see
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: this season in college football. And I'm sure most have
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: seen the highlight of already, but he goes airborne. He
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: flips forward in the air. He got hit twice and
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: he scores a rushing touchdown doing a forward flip. It
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: was an unbelievable play and an unbelievable game.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Is that win enough to wash out the fact that
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: from a conference perspective, you You lost the Cy Hawk.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: You lost in that Arizona State-Texas A & M matchup.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: You lost in the UCF-Pitt matchup.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: So the non-con not going all that great from a
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: conference-wide perspective, but of course the headline win for Oklahoma
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: State is what draws the attention.
• 43:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think you hit the nail on
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: the head there. Ultimately, there were I think going into
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: the weekend, we figured, okay, Utah should beat Arkansas. If
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: we can get one of the A & M, Arizona State,
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: or Kansas-Missouri wins, then that would be big for the conference,
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: and a conference that went 0-4 against SEC opponents in 2025. But,
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: you know, the A & M- Arizona State game was a
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: lot closer than the score would indicate because it was
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: a four-point game in the fourth quarter and even an
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: 11-point game. But basically back-to-back pick sixes for Cutter Bowley
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: undid any of that momentum. And that was how the
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: final score ended up looking as lopsided as it did.
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: I think the Kansas-Missouri game, that one may have appeared
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: closer than it actually was, considering Kansas really couldn't complete
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: many forward passes, which is a problem.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: And then the.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: UCF-Pitt game was just a wild and crazy game, basically
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: played in a monsoon. And for Pitt's offense, it exploded
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: week one. UCF defense did a ton against them here.
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: We too, the problem now is UCF defense looks legit,
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: but once again, they seem to have a revolving door quarterback.
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: They have like six different guys in a start games
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: for them last year, quarterback. And they're well on their
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: way to having to do that again this year with
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: the injury to Barnett. Hopefully it's not too long. So, yeah,
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, from a non-con standpoint, I think
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: this is the week three is the no slip up
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: week because you only have one power, four power, four game.
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: It's West Virginia, Virginia and, and Virginia now in the
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: top 25, so a good opportunity there for Rich Rod's
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: squad that I'm still not sure they fixed their defense.
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: And then you've got a bunch of, like, potential misstep
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: games for teams when it comes to, like, this is
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: like a group of six-week. So you've had a lot
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: of FCS games. You've had some Power 4, Power 4,
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: and now it's the week the majority of teams are
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: kind of finishing their non-conference with a group of six teams.
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: So hopefully no slip-ups there, and I think as long
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: as that's the case, because we've seen that in previous
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: years where, like, a Rice beats Houston game or a
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: Miami of Ohio beat Cincinnati. So ultimately I hope that like,
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: if everybody holds serve on this week, we should be
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: all right and have a few pretty big time wins
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: to stick in our back pocket. But with the biggest
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: one still become, and look, I think after two weeks, I'm,
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: you know, I think BYU has found a recipe for
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: potentially beating Notre Dame. We get later on and there
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: will be no bigger non-conference game than that one coming
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: up in October.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: The Friday night matchup that we've already alluded to is
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: going to be fascinating, and I do think factors into
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: the conference title discussion no matter which way it ends up.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: So how do you think Houston-Texas Tech ends up?
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, if we've watched the first two weeks,
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: then Houston's the better team. Texas tech has, has issues
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: here and they've won and winning is the great deodorant,
• 46:36
  Speaker 8: but still, I mean, it's hard to overlook the issues
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: that they've had. I mean, look, Will Hammond is working
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: his way back from an ACL injury and he's clearly
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: not you know, not as mobile and not as effective as,
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: as he needs to be. And so hopefully, you know,
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: he can work himself to playing better, but that's a
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: really good Houston defense. Now, both of these past defenses
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: were torn apart by Oregon state. And so it'll be
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: interesting to see, you know, how Texas tech past defense looks.
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: Texas Tech's been missing some key guys. One of their
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: starting safeties has missed the first two games of the
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: season due to a violation of team rules. Before this
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: game on Saturday, Terrence Carter, their stud tight end, was
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: ruled out. So we'll have to see from an injury
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: front what that looks like. But I'm excited for this game.
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: And I, again, I think like if we're watching these games,
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: Houston is the better team right now. Texas tech has
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: to prove it. And Texas tech has not played the
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: toughest opponents yet. And yet there's two at O and
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: so now they go with their toughest test. So with
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: that being said, they both had to eke out a
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: close victory against Oregon state. So this should be a
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: good one. And, you know, again, I'm looking at the quarterback.
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: In particular, Texas Tech had major red zone scoring issues
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: last year. Like their touchdown percentage in the red zone
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: was not nearly as good as it probably needed to be.
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: And this year they're off to a really slow start
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: that way. And, you know, they felt like they had
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: more mobility with Will Hammond, who is a more mobile quarterback,
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: but he's obviously extremely limited as he works his way
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: back from that ACL injury. And you can tell, you
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: can tell he's, he's just not the same. So they've
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: got to get that fixed or figured out because they're
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: not going to win the big 12 if they don't.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Ari, you're the man.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you giving us some time as you do on
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: these Mondays. Enjoy a full slate again this weekend. We'll
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: chat again next week.
• 48:17
  Speaker 11: You too, brother.
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: Take care.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Ari Temkin, Big 12 Radio on TuneIn and doing a
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: little work with the Dallas Cowboys as well. I will
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: always deliberately avoid talking Dallas Cowboys whenever I can. We've
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: got the Morgan Scali press conference coming up in about
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: seven minutes. We'll take a quick one here, very brief
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: segment to close the hour, and then we'll get to
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: the Morgan Scali presser. It's the Sean O'Connell Show on
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
• 48:49
  Speaker 10: You're listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
• 48:52
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• 48:59
  Speaker 12: We're going to get to the Morgan Scali press conference
• 49:05
  Speaker 12: here in just a second, but I want to remind
• 49:07
  Speaker 12: all of you that we were out last week at
• 49:10
  Speaker 12: Southern Steer down in Saratoga Springs.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: You have to get out there. If you got a chance,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: just make the trip. It's about 30-ish miles.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: From downtown salt Lake city, uh, Dan and Aubrey Gunther,
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: the owners, proprietors of the Southern steer butcher down there
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: on Redwood road, 1705 North Redwood road in Saratoga Springs.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Uh, they hooked me up. They gave me one of
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: the armadillo eggs. Okay.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: It is a jalapeno popper wrapped in spicy sausage with
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: wrapped in bacon. I made that thing for myself. My
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: daughters did not want to share it with me, so
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: I ate the whole thing myself. A meal by itself. Delicious, texture, perfect,
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: crispy bacon, juicy sausage, a little spice, and then the
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: cream cheese and jalapeno in the middle.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Incredible stuff. Yesterday, They also.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: Hooked me up with a big slab of dino ribs,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: about seven pounds of the dino beef ribs. I smoked
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: those bad boys till they were about 210 degrees internal temperature,
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: and the bone just slid right out. Chop it all up.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Better than a brisket, more flavorful bone flavor. It's like
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: the gelatin renders down to that nice.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Soft, delicious. Oh, my gosh. My mouth is watering thinking
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: about it again.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Shout out to the Gunthers for hooking me up and
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: making sure that I had a beautiful menu for my
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: football weekend.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: And guess what?
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: They'll do the same thing for you. Just head down there.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Tell them you heard about it on the Sean O'Connell show.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: They'll treat you well.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I promise. I also got the hot honey chicken crack dip.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: That's just one visit. Next time I'm getting me a
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Tomahawk steak. I'm going to try some of their sausages,
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: some of their jerky. It is a one-stop shop. They've
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: got the pre-made meals. They've got the sides. They've got
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: everything you need, ethically sourced, without the antibiotics, the hormones,
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: the chemicals that are in the supermarket meats. Southern Steer Butcher,
• 51:11
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• 51:14
  Speaker 4: hungry for the leftovers on those plate ribs, those big
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: dino beef ribs. Tell them OC sent you when you
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: head down to Southern Steer. And thanks to Dan and
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Aubrey and everyone else down there for hooking us up.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Morgan Scali Press Conference is next. Don't go anywhere. It's
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: ESPN 700, 92 on FM. We're back, and Morgan Scali
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: is at the podium.
• 51:38
  Speaker 11: This Friday on campus in women's volleyball has three games
• 51:41
  Speaker 11: back-to-back-to-back this week. Huge first tour at home, 3 p.m.,
• 51:45
  Speaker 11: so show up and be loud. Go support Coach Dorico
• 51:48
  Speaker 11: and those awesome ladies. And as far as the game, again,
• 51:54
  Speaker 11: can't say enough about the coaches, their game plans. As
• 51:59
  Speaker 11: a head coach, it's all about the culture and how
• 52:03
  Speaker 11: we do things. And the game planning really is up
• 52:06
  Speaker 11: to Coach McGiven, Coach Swan, Coach Shaw. So credit to
• 52:10
  Speaker 11: those gentlemen and their staff for putting that game plan together.
• 52:15
  Speaker 11: And proud of the offensive, defensive lines for their physicality
• 52:18
  Speaker 11: all night. We talked about a few guys. with Noah
• 52:23
  Speaker 11: Benny and Jai Mua and Dev, Weishan. Going back and
• 52:29
  Speaker 11: looking at the film, really pleased with the backers, how
• 52:33
  Speaker 11: active they were, how physical they were. I thought Nate
• 52:36
  Speaker 11: Ritchie had his best game as a Ute. A very
• 52:39
  Speaker 11: good tackling day for him, some PBUs. Hunter Andrews and
• 52:42
  Speaker 11: Will Money, you go back and watch that film, and
• 52:45
  Speaker 11: they are blocking their tails off. Very good game by
• 52:49
  Speaker 11: those guys, and I thought Daniel Bray ran hard. Never
• 52:54
  Speaker 11: get too many shout-outs to the special teams guys. Dylan Curtis,
• 52:57
  Speaker 11: 100% on his PAT so far. Kicking the ball out
• 53:01
  Speaker 11: of the end zone, which if you, you know, as
• 53:03
  Speaker 11: a defensive coordinator, kick that thing out of the end
• 53:05
  Speaker 11: zone every time. Never give them the opportunity to return
• 53:08
  Speaker 11: a ball. Ryan Phillips had an unbelievable punt. Net at 60,
• 53:14
  Speaker 11: I believe, and then Logan Castor, you know, Our snapper,
• 53:18
  Speaker 11: he never gets enough credit. That guy's on our leadership council.
• 53:23
  Speaker 11: And you don't notice the snapper until you don't have
• 53:26
  Speaker 11: a good one. And then that's when you notice him.
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: So credit to Logan for what he's been doing. In
• 53:33
  Speaker 11: terms of our opponent coming up, Utah State, so much
• 53:37
  Speaker 11: respect for Bronco Mendenhall. Anywhere he's been, he's created a culture.
• 53:42
  Speaker 11: And he's true to who he is. He's a very
• 53:44
  Speaker 11: good coach. has produced everywhere he's been, so much respect
• 53:49
  Speaker 11: to him and his team. Robert and I is a
• 53:53
  Speaker 11: guy that I've respected as well, the way he runs
• 53:56
  Speaker 11: an offense, his discipline nature, the way he coaches. And
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: then Coach Howell is a very good defensive mind, so
• 54:04
  Speaker 11: we know we're going to get the Aggies' best shot.
• 54:07
  Speaker 11: You watch those guys play, they play hard. They've got
• 54:11
  Speaker 11: two athletic quarterbacks. Whoever starts, one got injured at the
• 54:16
  Speaker 11: end of the last game, but very athletic. Another one
• 54:19
  Speaker 11: of those games where you've really got to be concerned
• 54:21
  Speaker 11: about an extra guy in the box for the Q
• 54:24
  Speaker 11: run game. They've got speed on the edges defensively, very sound,
• 54:30
  Speaker 11: very good tackling team, and they hit. They run to
• 54:34
  Speaker 11: the ball and they're well coached. Excited to So this
• 54:40
  Speaker 11: is 114, I believe, 114th time Utah youths have played
• 54:43
  Speaker 11: the Aggies. And in 1960, Bud Scali scored the only
• 54:48
  Speaker 11: touchdown against Merlin Olsen and that crew here. It wasn't
• 54:55
  Speaker 11: Rice Eccles at the time. I think it was the
• 54:57
  Speaker 11: Redskins versus the Aggies at that point. But 6-0, and
• 55:02
  Speaker 11: that was my first– You know, memory was seeing my
• 55:07
  Speaker 11: dad's newspaper clipping. Of course, I wasn't born at the time,
• 55:10
  Speaker 11: but seeing that. So the tradition's strong and excited for
• 55:16
  Speaker 11: us to host the Aggies. Questions? Justin? We got Justin's question.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:22
  Speaker 13: He said it's not that spicy. With Utah State coming
• 55:26
  Speaker 13: to town, a dominant win over Arkansas for the last
• 55:29
  Speaker 13: two opponents, are you concerned about the penalties continuing from
• 55:33
  Speaker 13: last week?
• 55:35
  Speaker 11: Um, you know, going back and looking at the penalties,
• 55:39
  Speaker 11: the ones that you really need to handle are those that,
• 55:45
  Speaker 11: you know, it's delay games that you can, you know,
• 55:49
  Speaker 11: you should never have those. Those are ones that, you know, procedurally,
• 55:53
  Speaker 11: we've got to be better on the sideline, and our
• 55:55
  Speaker 11: offense knows that. The, you know, pass interference stuff, I'm
• 55:59
  Speaker 11: going to continue to have our guys be aggressive. And that's,
• 56:03
  Speaker 11: you know, I think the Big 12 does a really
• 56:05
  Speaker 11: good job of calling games and there's going to be
• 56:08
  Speaker 11: disagreements and, but they do a heck of a job.
• 56:10
  Speaker 11: They have a hard enough job as it is. And
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: I thought for the most part, we were pretty, pretty clean.
• 56:15
  Speaker 11: You look over the first two games, I think we're
• 56:17
  Speaker 11: one of the fewest in penalties. And, you know, particularly
• 56:21
  Speaker 11: at the offensive line that you've had one holding penalty,
• 56:23
  Speaker 11: it was on a, on a tight end and really
• 56:26
  Speaker 11: no Fault starts from offensive linemen, so I'm really pleased
• 56:30
  Speaker 11: with the discipline there. I think we're doing a really
• 56:32
  Speaker 11: good job.
• 56:32
  Speaker 13: And then nationally, the Battle of the Brothers probably doesn't
• 56:36
  Speaker 13: get much attention.
• 56:38
  Speaker 11: Obviously, you growing up here, you know all about it.
• 56:40
  Speaker 13: What does this rivalry series mean to you, and how
• 56:43
  Speaker 13: important is it to play it pretty regularly?
• 56:46
  Speaker 11: Oh, I, you know, any time you get to play
• 56:49
  Speaker 11: the in-state schools, there's something on the line, right? And
• 56:54
  Speaker 11: it is.
• 56:57
  Speaker 11: You never take it for granted. I was in Logan
• 57:00
  Speaker 11: when we lost to Chucky Keeton and that crew. And it's,
• 57:05
  Speaker 11: you know, they want to win this thing. You've got
• 57:08
  Speaker 11: recruiting on the line. You've got bragging rights in-state. So,
• 57:14
  Speaker 11: you know, at the end of the day, it's always
• 57:16
  Speaker 11: going to be important when you're playing those in-state schools.
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: And I love the rivalries, whether it's BYU, Utah State.
• 57:23
  Speaker 11: You know, it's just healthy, in my opinion.
• 57:26
  Speaker 14: Speaking as a former defensive coordinator, when you look at
• 57:30
  Speaker 14: your own offense, what kind of struggles does that present
• 57:34
  Speaker 14: a defensive coordinator? Can you explain what this week would
• 57:36
  Speaker 14: look like trying to be able to figure out how
• 57:38
  Speaker 14: to go against an.
• 57:40
  Speaker 11: Offense like that? What you try and do each snap
• 57:45
  Speaker 11: is know what offensive personnel is coming out on the
• 57:48
  Speaker 11: football field, particularly if you're a man coverage team and
• 57:50
  Speaker 11: you're trying to match good on good. When you have...
• 57:55
  Speaker 11: athletes that can play multiple positions, right? Daniel Bray could
• 57:59
  Speaker 11: line up as a wide receiver, he could line up
• 58:00
  Speaker 11: as a running back. Bird, you see, lining up as
• 58:04
  Speaker 11: a wide receiver, he can also be a quarterback. And
• 58:06
  Speaker 11: when it's a quarterback that, you know, can also throw
• 58:10
  Speaker 11: the ball after a handoff or after a backwards pass,
• 58:12
  Speaker 11: that creates, you know, well, we've got to stay on coverage,
• 58:17
  Speaker 11: first of all. We've got to be aware that he
• 58:19
  Speaker 11: can still throw the ball. These are the issues that
• 58:24
  Speaker 11: you face every single snap. And when you've got, you know,
• 58:28
  Speaker 11: 40 seconds on the play clock, play ends, and really
• 58:32
  Speaker 11: you don't have 40 seconds, you have about 15 seconds
• 58:35
  Speaker 11: to figure out what's going on. Who's coming on, who's
• 58:38
  Speaker 11: coming off. The most stressful, most stressed out person in
• 58:43
  Speaker 11: the entire stadium on game day is your personnel guy
• 58:45
  Speaker 11: up in the booth that's trying to, it's 12 personnel. No, no, no,
• 58:49
  Speaker 11: it's 10 personnel. You know, all the while the coach
• 58:52
  Speaker 11: is like, let's go, let's go. So they have a
• 58:56
  Speaker 11: hard time, and the more you can create.
• 58:59
  Speaker 12: Chaos with guys.
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: Coming on, guys going off, and still be able to
• 59:05
  Speaker 11: snap it in time and and, you know, be efficient.
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: That's what we're trying to do. Um, creating different tempos
• 59:12
  Speaker 11: as well. You know, you go from being a huddle
• 59:15
  Speaker 11: team to quick on the ball. And so teams aren't,
• 59:19
  Speaker 11: don't get into a rhythm of, okay, they're always going
• 59:21
  Speaker 11: to huddle. They're always going to break the huddle and
• 59:22
  Speaker 11: we get to see the formation. You got to be
• 59:25
  Speaker 11: able to mix that stuff up as well. And we're
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: constantly having conversations back and forth as to, You know,
• 59:31
  Speaker 11: what's too much? What's, you know, what can we get
• 59:34
  Speaker 11: away with? You know, all the while, you're just trying
• 59:39
  Speaker 11: to make sure that you're getting your guys the ball, right?
• 59:46
  Speaker 11: Figure out who your guys are, and we've got a
• 59:48
  Speaker 11: bunch of them. And so you can have that. There's that.
• 59:53
  Speaker 11: Do you want to be someone or do you want
• 59:54
  Speaker 11: to do something? If you want to be someone, anywhere
• 59:57
  Speaker 11: can go. You can go someplace and go start, you know,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 11: Or you can be a part of a great team
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 11: and do something. And our guys have a great attitude
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 11: right now, great mentality. You may get yours one week,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 11: you may not get as much the next week, but
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 11: it doesn't matter who scores, it matters that we score.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 11: And the guys are bought into that right now.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: Jackson Benny's played a lot of nickel to start the season.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: What about his skill set makes him.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 11: A good fit at that position? Very good cover guy.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 11: He's long levered. He gets his hands on you. He's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 11: really good at sliding his feet, good hips, good ball skills.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: All those skill sets make for a good corner. We
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 11: can also bliss him. We haven't done much of that necessarily,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 11: but he's got an unbelievable skill set.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: You decided to keep the starting offensive line the same
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: from game one to game two.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: What led to that decision, and did they show you.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 14: Enough on tape for you to lock that in as
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 14: you're starting time for the foreseeable future?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say, you know, particularly the tackle spots,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 11: those are pretty much solidified with Sed and Zerway. And
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 11: then the guard spots, I think Roger's been doing a
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 11: really good job as Keith has continued to get healthy.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 11: And so, you know, we're going to continue to see
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 11: guys get reps in those situations. May, you know, have
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 11: some guys get a little bit more backup reps at tackle.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 11: You know, the more your guys can do, Isaiah Kim
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 11: is another guy that snaps at center but also could
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 11: play guard. It's just important that when you get those opportunities,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 11: they get those opportunities. So you see a lot of
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 11: our twos and threes coming in and playing in those situations,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 11: how valuable it is to get those guys reps. You're
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 11: not trying to run up the score, but it's important
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: to get those guys reps under the lights because that's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 11: how you find out really who they are. really pleased
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 11: with the progression of that offensive line, and we'll see,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 11: you know, because we do have some guys that are challenging,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 11: and those guys know, hey, you know, whenever I get
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 11: my shot, I've got to make it count. But I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 11: would say I don't think we've necessarily solidified this is
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 11: what it's going to be for the rest of the season.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: Morgan, the last two offensive coordinators you've hired have come
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: from Rocco Mendel's staff.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 11: I didn't hire one. you were involved with okay okay
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 11: there um.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Just what is it about his his offenses or just
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: the similarities that you like that he also.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 8: Likes that you know and that you you wanted to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: kind of pick up from his staff and hire those.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 11: Guys one of those guys um well yeah both jason
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 11: and and and mac g they Elements that cause you
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 11: issues are particularly man coverage teams, formations into the boundary
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 11: where your skill, your corners would have to travel, right?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 11: If your corner travels, more than likely it's man coverage.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 11: If your corner doesn't travel, okay, it's probably zone or
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 11: zone pressure. So stuff like that, the shifts, the motions
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: that force defenders to communicate through throughout pre-snap communication. How
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 11: good are they at pre-snap communication? How loud are they,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 11: particularly in loud environments? So the changing of the formation,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 11: the motions that can cause eye tricks, the changing of
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 11: personnel groups, and then the physicality. If you don't have
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 11: an offense that challenges you physically, it's tough to play
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 11: on Saturday that way. So it's complementary football. what you
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 11: face in spring ball and fall camp, it better be
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 11: getting you physical, right? Or, you know, it's tough to
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 11: ask that of your guys come season time.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: Coach, building off of.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: That physicality, how would you assess the physicality level and
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: where do you feel like your offensive line and defensive
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: line can develop the most?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 11: We got to continue to see where we're at. You know,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 11: we're two games in and like I said, You really
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 11: don't know who you are until probably midway through the season.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 11: I like our progress. You know, a lot of the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 11: being physical is not just, you know, blowing snot rockets
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 11: and trying to tee off on people. It's actually using
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 11: really good techniques. So, you know, inside hands, vertical leverage
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 11: is what we talk about all the time. And that's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 11: showing up. And you've got to be able to promote
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 11: it when you see it. Man, our guys are doing
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 11: a really good job of that, both on the offensive
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 11: and defensive side of the ball, using their hands, driving piles, finishing.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 11: That's the stuff that I want to see and that
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 11: we're seeing in games one and two. You're always going
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 11: to have minuses, stuff that you've got to clean up,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 11: whether it's footwork, whether I was too high. But for
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 11: the most part, I think coaches are doing a really
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 11: good job of teaching these guys really good technique.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Kind of building off that one as well, with tackling
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: was something that you guys, we've talked to you a lot.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 6: About going back to spring.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Through the first two games, you guys have had less
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: than 10 missed tackles in the game. Just how as
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: a whole do you think this unit on the defense
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: is doing in the tackling category, and where is there
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: left to improve upon?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 11: Well, good tackling is good tackling, and sometimes you face
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 11: really good athletes that make you miss, and if you're
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 11: relentless to the ball, you know, that shouldn't be an issue.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 11: So that's, you know, what this culture does for these
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 11: guys is it gets them in the mind frame of, okay, yeah,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 11: I'm being taught technique, but I can also attack, attack, attack,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 11: because I know the guy behind me, if I miss,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 11: is going to be there. Coach Swan and that crew
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 11: is doing a really good job of making sure these
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 11: guys in practice, because you can't, you know, Right now
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 11: during the season, if you don't know how to tackle,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 11: that's an issue. And so, you know, and the stuff
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 11: that we do do, making sure they go low, they
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 11: tag low, you know, just proper technique is over and
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 11: over again. It's stuff that you do over and over
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 11: and over again. If you don't do it and you
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 11: don't hold them accountable for it, then you shouldn't expect
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 11: to see it on game day. But they've done a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 11: really good job of coaching those guys up in spring,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 11: in fall camp when we were going live, and it's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 11: showing up.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 10: Well, if you're consistently having guys behind you and those
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 10: shots are piling.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 11: Up, When you throw, you know, say a fade ball,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 11: two out of three things can happen that are good
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 11: for the offense, right? A penalty or a completion, right?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 11: And so you're going to take those opportunities, particularly when
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 11: you have the athletes that can go up and their
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 11: 50% is really good. You see that with Pagan, with Larry.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 11: These guys can go up and get the ball.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 10: So.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 11: You don't just throw deep shots to throw deep shots,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 11: but if you want to loosen up a secondary, you've
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 11: got to be able to have those options. And so
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 11: I don't know how far Bird can throw it. He's
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 11: got a really live arm. We've not had a competition
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 11: or anything like that, but, yeah, he can sling it.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Coach, K.J.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 14: Jackson was 8 for 12 passing in the first quarter. No,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 14: not with a touchdown.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: After that, he was 4-for-22 with an interception.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: What were the in-game adjustments that allowed you to kind
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: of rattle him?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 11: I think early on, some of those completions, I'd be
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 11: interested to see where some of those completions were. A
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 11: lot of them were on the away. You had a
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 11: screen play. So some of those are within 10 yards
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 11: of scrimmage, and that's fine. Anything past 10 yards, if
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 11: he's really efficient, that's not a good thing. So I
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 11: think the... The cumulative effect of getting hit. I mean,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 11: he was getting hit quite a bit. If not, he
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 11: was getting bodies thrown into him. So really good job
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 11: by our guys of providing pressure. And then, you know,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 11: you look at those 13 pass breakups. A lot of
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 11: those are just guys batting down balls at the line
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 11: of scrimmage, being aware of depth of drop, you know,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 11: this going to be a three step down distance situation?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 11: Is this going to be a five step? So our
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 11: guys understanding that plays into it. I would say probably
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 11: early on he was getting the short stuff and then
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 11: forced into longer yardage situations. You have to throw longer,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 11: and we were having success there.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Final question for Coach.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 11: Pagan will play against his old team this Saturday.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Is he the player you were hoping he would be,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: and how does.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 11: He fit into the group? Oh, he's everything. I love
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 11: that kid. Love how he's progressed. You watch him, and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 11: I'm always... Talk to the wide receivers. What does Coach
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 11: Scali want out of you? Blocking. Blocking. Downfield. Go block downfield.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 11: And You see all these guys buying in. It's so
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 11: much fun to see these guys block for each other
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 11: and understand team football. But Braden Pagan has been fantastic.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 11: I'm excited for him. But it's not about him versus
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 11: Utah State. It's about the University of Utah versus Utah State.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 11: And it's all about the team. And he knows that.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 11: But he's been a team player. He's on the leadership
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 11: council for a reason. Love having him a part of
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 11: this family. Okay, thanks so much.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: All right, that's it.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: That's Utah head coach Morgan Scali's weekly press conference with
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: the gathered media up there every Monday at noon right
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: here on ESPN 792.1 FM, your home of the Utes.
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  Speaker 4: If you didn't get a chance to listen to it live,
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  Speaker 4: I imagine that the drive with Spence jackets will probably
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: bring it out at some point on their show today. Also,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: we'll have it available shortly at ESPN, 700 sports.com and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: on the ESPN 700 app. Look, there's not a ton
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  Speaker 4: that you take away from those press conferences after victories, right?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: Because what you're talking about is a positive outcome for
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: a team that put in a lot of work during
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: the week. the game plans for Colton Swan and for
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: Kevin McGiven really were kind of the stars of the
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  Speaker 4: show in a lot of ways on Saturday night at
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: Rice Eccles. When Morgan said, I would like to see
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  Speaker 4: where those completions were happening, I would also like to
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  Speaker 4: see the sort of spray chart for where the first
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  Speaker 4: half and first quarter success in Arkansas's passing game came from.
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  Speaker 4: It felt like it was a lot of open stuff
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of the field. And then they figured
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  Speaker 4: it out. And Colton Swan is going to be a
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: guy who finds ways to address things in game. But
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  Speaker 4: if you remember talking with Morgan Scali last year, when
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: we're doing coordinator's corner with him as the defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 4: he was very candid about the fact that look, when
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: people say in game adjustments, the end game adjustment is
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  Speaker 4: something that you've already prepped and you just remind your
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: players in game adjustments for both Colton Swan and Kevin
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  Speaker 4: McGiven are not things that you put in, in a
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  Speaker 4: sort of reactionary.
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  Speaker 3: Oh crap. What we had planned on isn't working kind
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  Speaker 3: of manner. It's all right.
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  Speaker 4: I shouldn't have called that particular play against that look
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball, right? I should
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: have had us in a zone there instead of a
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: man when they have that personnel grouping or they're in
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: that formation or that motion shows up. And all of
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: that only is adjustable if you've already prepped it during
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: the week. That's where these coaches need to be given
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: the credit they deserve because we have this false sense
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: that you can make an in-game adjustment in a real
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: football game the way that you do in Madden. where
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: you just call something different and the computer knows how
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  Speaker 4: to execute it. These guys have to know how to
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: execute what they're doing, and they only know how to
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: execute that if you have practiced it. So the preparation,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: the attention to detail in the preparation for this team
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: offensively and defensively is the reason why we're talking about
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: what we're talking about right now, the reason why we're
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: saying Utah's coming off of two massive victories. The reason
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: why we're talking about Utah being now like back in
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: the good graces of some of the national pundits, our guy,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: Joel Klatt, who's one of my favorites in the business,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: even though I can't, it's like pulling teeth, trying to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: get him to come on the show. I just think
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: he's got really good grasp of the college football world.
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  Speaker 3: I think he knows the game.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: Well, he's the one who coined the phrase death taxes,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: Utah football. He said it again on his reaction podcast.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: They like, For him, the Utes are back in a
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: way that many people thought they would not be this year,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: that they would take time. And look, don't crown anything
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  Speaker 4: after two games, but all you can do is play
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  Speaker 4: what is in front of you. Idaho was game, but
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  Speaker 4: not talented enough. Arkansas, I don't think was all that game,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: and they're not talented enough either.
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  Speaker 3: And Utah, I think.
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  Speaker 4: came out even more prepared in week two than they
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: were in week one. Week three, and we'll talk about
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: it a lot during the week. Week three, this is
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: a big challenge because you've got a bit more of
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: an emotional connection with it being an in-state team, but
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: you know you're supposed to win. And Utah State has
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: put some really, really bad stuff on film this year.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: Credit to the Aggies, credit to Bronco and his staff, though.
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  Speaker 3: They pushed Washington to... All the way to the edge.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, weren't able to come away with the victory, but
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: they pushed Washington all the way to the edge. I mean,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: their turnaround from a week one performance to a week
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: two performance is right up there with Oklahoma State after
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: losing to Tulsa. It's right up there with Michigan after,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: in reality, losing to Western Michigan and then turning around
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: and beating Tulsa.
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  Speaker 3: Beating Oklahoma. This is, this is a team that you
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: have to take seriously.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: And that's going to be something that this new coaching
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: staff is going to have to make sure these guys do.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: But Utah looks like they're firing on all cylinders. And
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: you heard the questions because You nitpick, that's what you
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: do in the reactions, right? When we're talking about how
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: do you get better? How do you make this win
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: look even more impressive? More importantly, how do you build
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: momentum off of this win to become something more significant?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: A lot of the questions are going to center around
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: that offensive line still. Do you have a solidified starting group?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: The answer to that at this moment is no. How
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: do you get your passing game even more involved than
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: it's been?
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  Speaker 3: We love that way.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: Sean Parker continues to show his versatility. You cannot get
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: into a situation where you rely excessively on way, Sean Parker,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: and they're not anywhere close to that yet, but you
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: can find yourself in that mind space. When games get harder,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: when you're playing in a close game against, you know,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: a conference opponent, or maybe it happens against Utah state.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: You don't want to keep going back to the well
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: too hard. You need to have Kyrie Scholes more established.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: And Morgan Scali gave shout-outs to the guys that are
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: blocking right now. No block, no rock is a thing
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: that we kind of throw out there tongue-in-cheek. It is
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: a real reality. It is an actual reality in a
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: wide receiver room at the University of Utah and should
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: be everywhere.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: And I think in most places it is.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: If you're not a receiver who's willing to block downfield,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: they're not going to throw you the ball either. Kyrie
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: Scholes came to Utah thinking he was going to be
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: like 1A, 1B kind of a target right now. He
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: has not yet been that in the targeting. Go watch
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: Kyrie Scholes, offense number zero. Go watch Kyrie Scholes blocking
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: his rear end off when the ball's not coming his
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: way very often as of yet.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: That's a strong indication. That's good.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: That is a testament to culture. And it's easy to
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: feel good about your culture when you're winning. And it's
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: easier to feel good about your culture when you're blowing
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: teams out. But those are the things that travel. Those
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: are the things that remain, that should at least remain
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: constant when a game is easy and when a game
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: is tough. The game looks a heck of a lot
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: easier when you've got guys hustling, even when they're targeted like, what,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: four times in the last two weeks? That's not necessarily
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: what you signed up for. But the breakout game is
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: coming if you do what you're supposed to do. Love
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: the way that Morgan handles the media responsibilities of his position.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: He's still very forthcoming. He's still a.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Guy that I think on some level at least sort
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: of enjoys talking to the media, which.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: It's not infinite. That's what it is right now.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: That's exactly right. At some point, he will be jaded
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: to it and start to hate it. I think it'll
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: take him a little bit longer than it took his predecessor,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: but he will hate it at some point.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, go back.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: Early Bill Belichick was kind of charismatic and funny behind
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: a microphone, and we know what that has become.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: And I always joke about that. It seems like at
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 9: the beginning... Maybe coaches are just excited to be a
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 9: head coach, especially first time head coaches right and so
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 9: this is part of it i'm still excited about this
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 9: i said this i joked about this with will hardy
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: though too like okay he's that way for now but
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 9: he's kind of kept that he's in year going into
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 9: year five for the utah jazz and he's still kind
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 9: of kept that forthcoming media friendliness.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: He's also young i think that matters I think that
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: for like a will Hardy that, and Morgan's young too.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: I think that there's just like, part of it is
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: just age, energy level, the fatigue, the real fatigue, but
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: also the fatigue of like, I have been answering these questions.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: I've been doing some form of this for three decades now.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: Like you get to a point where bill Belichick is at.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: And I hate, I hate his stance with the media.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: I could not stand it at all, but, We're at
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: a point now in his career and in the career
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: of like a Pete Carroll type or these guys, they're
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: not getting any unique questions ever again.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: And they know it and we know it.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: And people just say it's the debate rages and we'll,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: we'll get to it later on in the show during
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: the daily dump about whether or not the like sideline
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: reporter interview is even something you should subject coaches to
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: after Sark cold shouldered the first lady of Utah sports.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: How dare you Sark? but it creates a narrative, right?
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: It creates a.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: Discourse online about like, well, are these questions for the,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: most of the time are the, the questions to the
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: coaches and their non-responses even adding anything to a broadcast?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: Probably something that a producer and a television director needs
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: to decide, not us, but it is a valid question.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: All right. Ryan Edwards is going to join us.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: Denver Broncos coach, studio analyst monday night football preview broncos
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: chiefs at six on espn broncos radio the call is
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: on the fan 1039 and 98.3 so ryan edwards next
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: to talk a little broncos football on espn 700 and
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  Speaker 4: 92 on.
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  Speaker 10: Fm This is the Sean O'Connell Show, your home of
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 10: the best inside of your Utes. Let's get back to
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 10: OC from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 at 92.1 FM.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: Time for a little Monday Night Football preview. Broncos Chiefs
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  Speaker 4: tonight on ESPN and ABC.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: Kickoff at 6 p.m.
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  Speaker 4: Right after live programming ends on our station.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Ryan Edwards.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: Denver Broncos insider and radio analyst is kind enough to
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: join us to preview this game to kick off the
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: season for AFC West Rivals.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: Ryan, welcome to the show. How are you? Doing great.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: The Broncos, you're probably aware, the.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: Broncos are sort of a de facto home team for
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: a very large contingent of fans here in Salt Lake City, Utah.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: I think that they probably have the largest following of
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: any NFL team. And they have a bunch of former
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: Utes on. That helps us here on the home of
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: the Utes. So we'll start with those guys. Garrett Bowles
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: is firmly established himself as not only you're starting tackle,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: but kind of a leader on this offense. And Jonah
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: Ellis has really, I think, done some nice things for
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: this defense. I expect kind of a breakout year for him. Let's,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: let's start with Garrett Bowles and his importance to this
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: team as the season progresses with, you know, a young
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: quarterback still trying to kind of make his way and
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: some guys that on this team where even though he's
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: not old in real life, Garrett Bowles is sort of
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: an elder statesman for this offense.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he came into the league a little old too, right?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: So that was kind of the deal. But, yeah, Garrett
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: has been phenomenal, honestly. You know, first round pick, in fact,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: he's the last offensive tackle the Broncos drafted, literally, last
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: offensive tackle they drafted. So that's a pretty good sign there.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: One of the last guys playing, of course, from John
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: Elway's draft as well. But, yeah, I mean, he's just
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: been rock solid. I mean, in fact, better than that.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: He's been great. He's been an all-pro. I mean, this
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: last year he was an all-pro. He's been a pro bowler. And,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: you know, you're thinking about the success that you can
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: have as a team when you build through the trenches
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: and have success with those kinds of players. When Sean
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: Payton got here, he added two offensive linemen almost immediately. And,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: you know, oftentimes is the case when a new coach
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: comes into town, he's got to get his guys, like
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: guys I want in free agency, guys that I want
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: in the draft, He hasn't even for a moment considered
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: replacing Garrett Bowles because he's just been that good. And
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: now he's considered probably one of the top five offensive tackles,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: especially left tackles in the NFL. It's truly remarkable, especially
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: from where he started considering, you know, there's some raw
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: athletic upside, but it took him a little bit of
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: time to find his footing.
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  Speaker 4: The other guy that I, I guess I'm more excited
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: to talk about is Jonah Ellis and by his, his youngest,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: his youngest, I think he's the youngest of the Ellis
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: brothers is on the Utah football team right now. Jonah
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: obviously came through here. His older brothers that played at
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: Idaho are in the league. Dad's on staff here at
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: the university of Utah. If you're an Ellis, we have
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: high expectations of you. What do the Broncos expect from
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: Jonah Ellis this year?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: Well, they expect to step forward, as you said, and
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: he's starting tonight. So basically with Koop on the exempt
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: list right now, they're going to go with Jonah Ellis
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: as the starting outside linebacker, and he's going to have
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: some opportunities tonight. I mean, the fact is the Chiefs
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: are down there starting left tackle, which means the side
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: that Nick Benito is going to be rushing from, there
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: should be some opportunities, but of course the Chiefs already
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: know that, so they're going to probably give some extra
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: attention to that side tonight. which means Jonah Ellis should
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: see some one-on-ones tonight. And if that ends up being
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: the case, he really needs to find a way to
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: be successful. With Jonathan Cooper on the opposite side of
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: Nick Benito, they have had that success. certainly leading the
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: league in sacks the last two years, the Broncos have been.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: So I say we're Jonah Ellis tonight and as well
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: as for the season, he's going to continue to need
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: to show up. I mean, he's a high energy player.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: You guys know that he's a high energy player. He
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: has a nose for the football. He had double digit
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: sacks in that final year there at Utah. We expect,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: I think the Broncos expect him to have a similar
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: kind of season this year.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: Are the Chiefs still the Chiefs?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: I know Bronco's person might not be the right person
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: to ask that, but this is a team that has
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: been hanging around, and they were flirting with that dynasty thing,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: and then they've had some issues, and then they still
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: seem to be there.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: And it's Andy Reid and it's Pat.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: Mahomes, but everyone, you know, Kelsey a year older and
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: married to Taylor Swift and on tour and whatever else.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Are the Chiefs still the Chiefs?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: We're about to find out, aren't we? I mean, 6-11
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: last year, you could chalk some of that up to
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: the eventuality of the roster aging out in some spots.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes' injury, certainly. But they're still running it back
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: with quite a few of those guys. I mean, Travis
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: Kelsey is almost 37 years old, as you mentioned. Chris
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: Jones is pretty high up there, too. So they're running
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: it back with a lot of the same construction. They
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: added Kenneth Walker running back. That's going to be something
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: that really is going to be interesting to see if
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: that can kind of sustain the inevitable fall of this
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: dynasty if they can find a run game. The Broncos
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: fans certainly know about that with Terrell Davis here was
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: able to sort of help John Elway get over the
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: hump in those championships. And I don't know if that's
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: where they're headed right now, but I know that's in
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: anticipation for tonight as well as this season, that they're
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: going to lean a bit more on the run game
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: and take some off of Patrick Mahomes because he's nine
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: months removed from an ACL surgery. He's just not going
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: to have the mobility. So to, I guess, long-winded answer
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: your question is I guess we're going to find out
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: because I think the chiefs are on the bit of
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: a decline, but I remember doing this same exercise with
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: the Patriots for all those years when they were in
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: the midst of their dynasty. And a lot of us,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: including myself at times looked pretty foolish, kind of waiting
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: for it to happening or predicting it's going to happen.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: I'm going to sort of see, but I do like
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: the Broncos chances tonight.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: I'm curious where you think the Broncos fit in the
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: overall power structure of the NFL. I guess they've got
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: what the seventh or eighth highest odds to win a Superbowl.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: Outside looking in, a good mix of veteran and youthful players.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know that they have some of the marquee
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: star power that some of the other considered Super Bowl
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: contenders do. But overall, I see this Broncos team as
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: one that's pretty problematic for even the top, top squads
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: in the league. Is the expectation internally that they will
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: be Super Bowl contenders and they will be division champs
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: and AFC champs?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: They believe so, yes. They believe that's one of the
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: reasons why they brought back so many of their players
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: from last year during free agency, and they only added
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: a handful during the draft. The one big move, obviously,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: was Jalen Waddell. But the reason they did all that
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: is they believe in their culture. They believe in this team.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: And they do think they're poised to make a real
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: run this year, health permitting, of course. And that starts
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: with your quarterback. And honestly, to that question, because I
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: get asked that a lot, I'd say that, in my opinion,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: it all depends on what the offense does this year.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: I think there's a certain standard we can expect from
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: the defense. They're going to be opportunistic. They're going to
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: get after the quarterback. I hope that they have some
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: better turnover luck this year, but the offense really kind
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: of has to take that step forward for, I think
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: most people to take them seriously. You mentioned seven best odds.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: They're the third best odds in their own division. And
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: they won it last year with 14 wins. So, you know,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: year over year, people just don't, aren't really completely buying
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: them yet. And I think the offense, if they can
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: take another step forward, if Bo, Nix Davis web calling
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: the plays can take another step forward, pretty significant step forward.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of the naysayers out there, the
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: people that don't believe they will come around pretty quick.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: Cause right now, especially in this, this iteration of the NFL,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: it is an offensive driven league.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: What does a step forward for Bo Nix look like?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: What is this team trying to get out of him
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: or maybe a mistake or a weakness in his game
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: that they're trying to eliminate in these off seasons?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: I think consistency.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: He's obviously shown the ability to be clutch, especially in
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. I mean, these comeback wins, that's a
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: big deal. And it's the reason why the question gets
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: asked to me often, do you have your franchise quarterback?
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: And I say, yeah. I mean, the hardest thing he's
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: already doing, he's clutch when he needs to be clutch.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: He comes up with big plays. That win over the
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills, yeah, I mean, you've got five takeaways from
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: the defense, which, again, Josh Allen will give those to
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 5: you if you want them. But then your offense still
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: has to produce because the Bills offense did. So Bo
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: Nix just needs to do that for four quarters, right? Now,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: not every quarterback can do that for four quarters, but
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: maybe give me two and a half to three quarters.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: Let's take a step forward and say instead of. Well,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: you have one good quarter, you have two bad quarters,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: and then you have one great quarter. Do you know
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying? Like, give yourself a position where you
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: don't have to make these dramatic comebacks. You have that
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: in your back pocket. You know that you have the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: ability to do that. The team knows they have the
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: ability to do that. But what it is for Bo
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: Nix is, okay, when you start the game, you start
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: a little faster. and and they've already shown the ability
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 5: to close half strong so you know sort of keep
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: that don't fall back there and then hey come out
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: of the third quarter and don't have a lull the
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 5: third quarter has been one of the worst for the
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: broncos over the last couple of years they've got to
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: find a way to be more consistent i think it
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 5: starts with the quarterback.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 4: What is the strength of this team positionally and where's
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: the biggest question.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: Mark Ooh, good one.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: Uh, I'd say strength. I mean, I'm cheating if I
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: say the trenches. So I'll just say, I'll say the
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: defensive line and they lost John Franklin Myers, but they
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: really do like the depth of this group. Uh, any
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: Elmo Wazirike is going to start tonight, but Malcolm Roach
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: is a guy that, uh, he's going to rotate in
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: and he plays a significant role. Sabian Jones was a
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: third round pick last year.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: They took Tyler on yet.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: Um, this year in the third round, They feel like
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: they have a lot of depth there. They have a
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 5: lot of different ways. And that's before I get to
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: Zach Allen, who's one of the most elite defensive tackles
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: in the game, along with DJ Jones, who's one of
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: the better nose tackles.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 14: In the game.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: So the defensive line, along with the edge is really strong.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: Weakest probably get to the inside linebacker group right behind them.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: And it's not to say that they don't fill their roles.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: They're very important, but they are susceptible to running backs
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: out of the backfield and tight ends in space. And again,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: If you get one injury there, it becomes a little
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 5: dicey on what your depth looks like behind that because
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: you don't have.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 8: A lot of experience.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, I mean, the defense is very good overall,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 5: but there are certainly some spots where if you experience
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: a couple of mishaps or injuries, it could get a
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: little dicey.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: Outside of Denver, and I know it's an unfair thing
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: to ask when you're someone who's so dialed in on
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: the Broncos, but outside of Denver, what NFL storyline draws
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: your eye most right now, early in the season, season
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: kicking off?
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: Well, yesterday the Chargers collapsing against Arizona was something. Of
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: all the expectations, and we spent a lot of time
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: this offseason talking about Mike McDaniel, And what impact he
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: might have there on Justin Herbert and the run game.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: And you just saw.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: None of it.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: So, and, and their defense looked bad too, which I
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: did not think they would fall off as bad as
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: they did. So that, that one is, is fascinating to me.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: You know, the, the just overall picture of the offense.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was the highest scoring offensive weekend, first
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: weekend of the NFL since the merger and, And I
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: think if both these teams tonight combine for 42 points,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: then it'll be the highest scoring first weekend ever in
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: the NFL, which is pretty ridiculous. That's something to sort
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: of peak interest uh you know you had the bears
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: you had the ravens you had the bills against the
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 5: texans all just having the jaguars or the broncos are
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: going to face next week all having really big weekends
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: offensively so certainly like the pattern here is defense certainly
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: can win championships and you need to have a good
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: defense to win in the postseason but during the regular
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: season it's really about having a prolific offense and an
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: ability to score at will.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: All right, I'm going to assume that you've put the
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: Broncos in the Super Bowl, so who's coming out of
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: the NFC to play against them?
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: Well, hang on. Now, don't assume that.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, I won't assume. I won't assume, but.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I do like the Broncos' chances, but
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: the Bills are probably the team that's the top of
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 5: the AFC for me. Like right now... I still put
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: them up there, even though the Broncos beat them head-to-head
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: last year. There's just something about the way Josh Allen
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: can change a game, and you saw it even yesterday.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: So coming out of the NFC, it would be easy
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: to pick the Rams. Of course, we have the hindsight
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: now of watching how they performed in Australia. I don't
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: know if that changes everything, but I think the Seahawks
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: are still really, really good. Once they get Sam Darnold back,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: I do think they're a complete team. I really love
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: their rookie running back, Jadarian Price. I was a big
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: fan of his coming out of college. So I'd say
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: right now, if you're twisting my arm on, what is this,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: September 14th, I think, I'd say it's Price Seahawks.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: All right, I'll take it, even though I'm a Niners guy.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: I think that, you know.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: They look good.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: They looked amazing.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: And if you could keep that core healthy for an
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: entire year, I think they can continue to look amazing.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: That's the big question, though.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: Yep, that's the... You're right. In that game, it was
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: a bad game, obviously. Not unless you're a 49ers fan,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: but it was just a bad overall game. But the 49ers,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, the way they have... There's so much talent. And,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: you know, just very quickly, it's remarkable because they flashed
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: the thing on the screen about how they're missing two
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: top wide receivers, Brandon Ayuk and Ricky Pearsall. And you're
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: getting a fraction of George Kittle out there. So it's
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: just amazing to me to think, like, what that offense
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: could actually look like if you had the full complement
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: of talent that you basically should have paid or drafted.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: The Broncos have any Australia games this year?
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: I'd say that tongue-in-cheek because I know they don't have
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: one in actual Australia, but I haven't looked at.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: The full schedule. Are they overseas at all in 2026? No.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: No, they're everything in the United States, but they do
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: have an Australian punter.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: If that helps. Good enough.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: We're familiar with those guys from our University of Utah coverage.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you giving us some time today. Obviously, I know
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: it's a busy time of year, so enjoy tonight's game.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: We'll chat again soon.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: All right, sounds good. Thanks for having me.
• 1:35:52
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  Speaker 4: Ben Shelton denied his bid for US Open glory, at
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  Speaker 4: least here in 2026.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: Bummer. Sad to see.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: Didn't have to play until 3.30 a.m. in order to
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: come up with second place. Alexander Zverev wins this thing.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: The violation of protocol comes... When immediately after winning and
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: in his victory speech, he turns around and he starts
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: hollering at Ben Shelton's girlfriend, Destiny Rodman. I did not like,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: I did not like to see that. I know he's
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: being silly. It's like, Hey, don't you have a game today?
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 8: No, man.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: After you beat me in a, in a tennis championship,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: don't talk to my girlfriend on TV. Come on, Ben Shelton.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: You can't let that happen right in front of you.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: I said destiny.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 9: Ben Shelton is one of the, one of the guys
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 9: with a lot of bravado to like celebrates every point
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 9: he scores and stuff. You would think he would have
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 9: shown a little bit more of that when the guy
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 9: who just beat him was talking smack to his girlfriend.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: But I didn't like that. I didn't like that one bit.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: You don't, you don't, come in and beat an American
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: on American soil. I then look back and Oh, the
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: girlfriend who's a member of the U S women's national team. Oh, Hey, well,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: don't you have a game today, sweetie?
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: Fun joke. Not cool, man.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: If I'm Shelton, I'm, I'm taking that second place trophy
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 4: and I'm just bashing him in the head with it.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: Don't talk to my girlfriend. It's my lady, bro.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's the kind of bravado he shows though.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 9: So it's kind of, it's interesting that he didn't have
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 9: anything for Sveta in that, in that moment, but maybe
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 9: he was too caught off guard.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: I didn't like it. I feel like it should be
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: frowned upon in tennis. It's a gentleman's sport.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 14: Come on.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: It's a sport for the upper crust of society.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: Um, I'm sure you saw this because we've been fascinated
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: with the Clippers and then the salary cap circumvention case.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: And can you trade Kawhi or can you not trade
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: Kawhi and what's going on here? And then a prohibitive penalty,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: a really, really stiff penalty handed down to the Clippers
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: and Steve Ballmer. And then, of course, we talked about, well,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 4: this is now another court case. This is now six
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: more months of legal fees being paid, I was surprised
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 4: to see that Steve Ballmer issued a statement saying he
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 4: has some sincere regrets and basically apologizing to the NBA
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: and to Clippers fans for engaging in this tomfoolery.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: And he's just taking it on the chin. Ballmer, I.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: And this probably is one of those things where you
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: had a conversation behind the scenes with the commissioner, and
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: they were just like, look, man, we can do this
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: if you want. We can battle this out, but it's
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 4: not going to be good for you. It's not going
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: to be good for us. You're not going to get
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: an all-star game anytime. You're not going to get anything good.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 4: So why don't you just do this? You scratch our back.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: We'll scratch yours. $ 30 million fine is nothing. It's totally
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: inconsequential for someone of Steve Ballmer's wealth. I think we,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 4: I think we did the math last week and it's
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 4: like 10 days, 10 days of income for him.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: So he can handle it. Must be nice.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: And he is, instead of fighting this, he's just accepting
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: the penalty and turning the page and moving on. So
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: accepting that penalty is five draft picks down the drain.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 4: The money we talked about this, the money is inconsequential
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: means nothing to him.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: The five draft picks.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: That's why he issued part of this apology to Clippers fans,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: because he's saying, Oh, by the way, I'm sorry that
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: we did this because now your franchise stinks for the next,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: whatever that's tough.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 9: And we only got to one Western conference finals and
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 9: Kawhi Leonard wasn't even healthy for that Western conference finals that, that,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 9: We lost five draft picks for that kind of success.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 9: Getting to Western Conference Finals is good, but you expected
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 9: championship if you were a Clippers fan when you brought
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 9: in Kawhi Leonard, or a lot closer to one anyway. Yeah,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 9: did not end up working out well for them. I'm
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 9: surprised that he issued this mea culpa. OC, I was
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 9: expecting him to dig in his heels. I will say this.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 9: Conversation like what you just Speculated about might've happened with
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 9: Adam silver. And part of that conversation was, uh, Mr. Balmer, Steve,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 9: you do realize that by suing us, you are also
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 9: suing yourself. Like the Clippers are part of the NBA.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 9: The NBA is an association of owners. You really want
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 9: to do this. And I think he and his legal
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 9: team realizing they probably don't have much of a case anyway, went,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 9: You know what?
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: You got a good point there, Mr. Silver.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: Maybe we need to just eat this penalty. Here's a,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: here's another wrinkle, a layer to the onion. Here's a
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: name you probably haven't thought about in a while. Danilo
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: Gallinari shout out. He went on a podcast, a Cresta
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: out the podcast and was very critical of the fact
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 4: that Kawhi Leonard only has to pay a $ 700, 000 fine.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: His statement was he should pay all of that $ 50 million.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: He changed the trajectory of my career and put me
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: in a difficult situation by sending me away from Los Angeles.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: Gallinari left the Clippers in 2019, part of the trade
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: that brought Paul George to Los Angeles, and that move
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: made it so that Kawhi Leonard wanted to be a Clipper.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: And this is the continued quote from Gallinari. What happened
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: to my NBA career wasn't decided by a general manager
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: or an owner, but by a player who decided that
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: team wasn't.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: Good enough and wanted something else.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: So when the 30 for 30 comes out, I want
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: the Danilo Gallinari interview. I want them sitting down in
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: a chair. I want him being like, yeah, I hate
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard. And they'll be like, wait, what do you
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: have to do with Kawhi Leonard? And then the mental
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: gymnastics that a person does to blame something that really
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: isn't Kauai's fault on Kauai. And I don't know why
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: I'm defending Kauai here. Cause Kauai's I think Kauai kind of,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: I loved watching him at San Diego state. I know
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: he's a great basketball player. I kind of hate what
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: Kauai Leonard has become in the NBA. And I never
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: thought I would. Cause he's like such a well-rounded player.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: I kind of like hate his whole vibe now, but
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: the fact that Danilo Gallinari is using Kawhi Leonard as
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: the scapegoat for his own unsatisfied potential is really wild stuff.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: Speaker 0 7, I mean, this is, this is like.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 9: If, if Carl Malone and John Stockton did something that,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 9: that adversely affected Brian Russell's career, like, it's just what, like,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 9: what are we talking about here?
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: Like, Eric Weddle's the reason I had ever started at
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: the university of Utah.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: What's very good.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 14: What do you mean?
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 9: Like, it's just, do you go down Ari? Really good player.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 9: He's not Paul George. They, the general manager, I think
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 9: doc rivers was the president and head coach at that time.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 9: He not only was saying, let's make that trade to
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 9: get to appease Kawhi Leonard, but also because we can
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 9: get Paul George.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: Danilo, even if Kawhi Leonard never says a word about
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: you or about the rest of that roster, everybody wants
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: Paul George instead of you.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. That's just how it is.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 9: I mean, we we'd love you to be a sixth
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 9: man scoring type guy. That was, he was really good
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 9: in that kind of a role in the third or
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 9: fourth best score type thing, but he was not Paul George.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 4: I now want like a Netflix series. That's all about
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: Players who blame other players for them not being as
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: good as they want it to be or their career
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: not going the way they.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: Wanted it to.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 9: Howard Isley is mad at John Stockton because he never
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 9: got to start for the jazz.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: Welcome to beef. We'll just call it beef. It'll be
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: sponsored by Southern Steer and other beef providers. And it's
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: just players who have a beef with another player for
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: some real or perceived slight.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: That's what I want.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 9: Judd Bushler thinks he could have been a Hall of
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 9: Famer if not for Michael Jordan. I, cause I guarantee, right?
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: There's so many, we'll start it with the six Utah
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: players that felt like they would have had different careers
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 4: if they weren't forced to play through an injury.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 9: Speaker 3, Sean O'Connell being the first one. No, not,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 9: not the force to play through injury.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: Sorry. That I was going back to the Eric Weddle joke.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: They would have forced me to play through an injury.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 4: I would die to be like, Hey, get back out there.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: I've heard coach. I'm hurt. We need you on the field. Oh, sweet. Really?
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: Are you sure? Do you have a fever? Did something
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: happen to you?
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 4: Coach?
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: Is there a head injury? I need to worry about.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 4: Are you talking to me? Oh, you're talking to the
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 4: guy behind me. You're talking to someone whose name is
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: actually Murphy.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: Nevermind.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: I knew it was Irish. Where do we, where do
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: we stand on this?
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: Steve Sarkeesian cold shouldering our beloved sports siren, Holly row
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 4: at the end of that Texas comeback over Ohio state.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 9: I think it's important to know. And Chris Comrani and
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 9: the athletic did note this ESPN had some technical difficulties
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 9: with both sideline reporters. Each time that Sark was scheduled
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 9: to be interviewed with them one at halftime with Laura Rutledge,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 9: I believe was the other one on the game. And
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 9: then post-game, of course, with Holly Rowe. So, like, he's
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 9: irked at this point that he's having to wait here. And, oh,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 9: he's got such valuable time. Who's going to give the
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 9: halftime speech that led... Why are you making me talk
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 9: about this game, by the way? I hated this game.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 9: But it's... That's an important context, I think. The major
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 9: takeaway for you is that Texas won.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: And that's important. How dare you.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 11: Look, he.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: I know this is not popular. I work, I work
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: in television sometimes. All right.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: Occasionally our executive producer, like after somebody wins a fight,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: a lot of times the winner gets an interview, right?
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 11: Okay.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: We've got the headset on. They'll pop down into my
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: ear or into the ear of Dan Hardy. Who's my
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: color analyst. And they'll be like, do you want to
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: interview this guy for the broadcast? The decision, the yes
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: or no from me comes 100% from, is the conversation
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: going to be interesting? Is the conversation going to be
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: any good? If the answer is yes, yeah, if we
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: have time, let's do it. If I know that that
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: person never gives you any good answers, if I know
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: that that person has a language barrier that creates a
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 4: clunky exchange, if I know that there's some kind of
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 4: a situation where they've got some beef against each us
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: in the media and don't want to talk. And they're
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: going to be short. The answer is no, I don't
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: want to do the interview. I don't want the interview
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: to be part of a telecast. There are plenty of
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: head coaches and Sark is now going to be one
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 4: of them. There are plenty of head coaches that don't
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: want to do this, that don't give you any value
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: in these. Like if it's Kurt Cignetti, every single time
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: talk to Kurt Cignetti, because he's got like this dead pan.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 4: He's going to give you something funny. He's going to
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: be a total savage about it. Give me that 30
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: seconds of Kurt Cignetti. If it's Kalani Satake.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: If it's Morgan Scali.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: I don't need to hear from Kyle Whittingham anymore.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: He's not good in those scenarios.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: He just isn't.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: I don't want, I don't want the coach and you're
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 4: on a television broadcast. These people have access to the
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 4: coaches and They know how the coaches are feeling. They
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: know what the coaches are thinking. They know how the
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: coaches have a relationship with the media or don't. I
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: don't need a sideline reporter ever approaching bill Belichick again, ever, ever, ever.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: Instead of doing it with the head coach, knowing that
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: you have an obligation to give me something that's part
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: of the broadcast, go find the player instead. I Holly
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: row was put in a situation there because of those
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: technical difficulties. That's kind of a no win for her.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: She's a consummate pro. She's one of the best in
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: the business. Weirdly, there were people kind of like running
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: a victory lap around her getting the cold shoulder because
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 4: apparently she's made some enemies along the way, which is
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 4: very interesting to see.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: However, that's our gal. She's a Ute. Steve Sarkeesian, foul
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: on you. Grievance against you for doing that. But it's
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: just because he's a BYU guy, OC. That's all it is.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: But also, like, I think that it's now incumbent upon.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: the producer, the director, and maybe even sometimes on the
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: report of themselves to just be like, I know this
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 4: person is going to give me crap. I'm going to
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: go find someone who doesn't mind being on camera.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: Someone who gets to talk for the first time on camera.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: I'd rather hear from the defensive coordinator who gave us
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 4: that stop.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: I know you can't, they're usually in the booth after
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: a game or whatever.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 9: Hey, go, go find Arch Manning, go, you know, but
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 9: also there's some restraints from the bosses. Like, no, we
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 9: only do head coaches, whatever you'd you'd make the best
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 9: of it.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: They're the only ones with media obligation in their contract. Yeah.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: So Sark, I guess is probably on some technical level
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: in violation of that by not wanting to talk to her,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: but who cares, man? I, yeah.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 9: I, I feel bad for Holly that she was kind
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 9: of victimized by this, but I also understand why Sark
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 9: might've felt like he did to just be really short
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 9: with Holly, cut her off and, and then walk away
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 9: because I can understand being annoyed at like, Hey, I
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 9: don't like to do these anyway. And you made me
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 9: wait really long. Both times. I just want to go
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 9: celebrate this win or talk to my guys in the
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 9: halftime locker room.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: Speaker 2, 6 0 5 2. I was a COBS
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: major at the U with Holly row. I really could
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: have been something if it were not for her, but
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: the Danilo Gallinari take of sports media.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: All right. We're over time.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: We got to come back and talk with Zach Moss,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: who was on the sideline for another great broadcast and
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: another big win for the university of Utah. We'll talk
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: with the Utah football legend, Zach Moss next on the
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: Sean O'Connell show ESPN, 700 92, one FM.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: We don't need no education.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 10: You're listening to the Sean O'Connell Show, your source for
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 10: the best youth football coverage. Here's OC from the Murdoch
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 10: Hyundai Studio of.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 4: ESPN 700 at 92.1 FM.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: Your favorite part of the Utah win over Arkansas. Maybe
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: your least favorite part as well. The things you liked
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: and the things you didn't like about youths going 2-0.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: Impressive performance. I'll tell you, we're going to We're going
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 4: to switch up the schedule a little bit here. Zach
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: Moss has to push for another 15 minutes or so.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: So Zach Moss at one 30, instead of here at one,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: we've got some tickets to give away at the end
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: of the show. Five finger death punch is coming to
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: the Utah first credit union amphitheater on September 22nd. So
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: next week, five finger death punch to Utah first credit
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: union amphitheater. I'll have two tickets to give away at
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: about one 45.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: So about 30 minutes from now.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 4: So Zach Moss in 15 minutes and 30 minutes, we'll
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: give away some tickets. Your reaction to the Utah football game, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: zero 700 on the text line, the phone line at
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 4: real OC sports on Twitter. I'll tell you one thing
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: that was really incredible. Halftime, Eric Weddle inducted into the
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 4: Ring of Honor. Great to be there. Great to see it.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: Great to see his parents there, his kids there, with
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: the exception of one daughter who's at the Acrobatics Internationals
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: in Italy. Actually, the Weddles were flying from Utah to
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 4: join her, which is really cool.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the big meet or whatever the event's
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 9: called is tomorrow. So they're probably in Italy joining themselves.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: So good stuff. Great stuff.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: The drone show. Let me tell you, I now have
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: a goal in life. I don't know how I will
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: ever possibly achieve it. I have a new goal that
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 4: I want a drone show featuring me.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: You know how sweet it was? Like the drones.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: Silhouetting Eric Weddle in like, you know, football form, number
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: 32 Jersey. Then they did it. I think they took
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 4: his PR photo from when he had the Mohawk. They
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 4: did that. I, it looked like him drones doing an
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: outline in the night sky that looked like the actual guy.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: It was, I want one of those. Now I want
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: a drone show commemorating me in some way.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 9: Speaker 2, next time the PFL is in Salt Lake
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 9: city is what should we expect?
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't think so. I don't think they
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: would pull it off, but.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 9: Or at UFC in a, in a few weeks, shout
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 9: out the center. We get a local UFC legend. Shout
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 9: out to everyone involved in that drone show. That was
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 9: really fantastic. Got a chance to talk with him at
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 9: halftime and a little bit after the game, a little
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 9: bit before the game. He's, you know, he's that guy.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: He's always going to be that guy signing autographs, being here,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 4: showed his appreciation for the legacy. It was great to
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: see his parents, you know, his dad, his dad's like this,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: you know, like typical, like dad guy, you know, and
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 4: he is looking up and watching his son's name be
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 4: unveiled behind that little black sheet and the, you know,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: tears in the eyes. I'm like, man, what a cool
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 4: thing to give to your parents. What a great gift
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 4: for him to be able to bestow for his parents.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: He did a wonderful job raising him and his sister.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: They're both great people, but like, what a cool thing.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 4: that you get to make your parents feel that way.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: So it was really, really neat to see the whole thing.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: It makes me think of Weddle's pretty active on social media.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 4: As we know, he posted a picture of he and
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 4: his dad at the super bowl that he won.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: It makes me think of that too. Like the, like he's.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 9: Given his dad so far to like unbelievable moments as
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 9: a dad to be proud of your son and just
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 9: be like, you go dude. And be able to be
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 9: with him on the field after he wins the Superbowl
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 9: before the Superbowl, however often he was during that game
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 9: and a ring of honor. And hopefully OC gets another
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 9: proud dad moment when he, if, and when he gets
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 9: elected to the pro football hall of fame in Canton.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: It'd be really cool.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: One of his, his old like childhood friends, high school
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 4: buddies made the trip. His NFL agent made the trip
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: and people don't know is I think Eric's, as far
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: as I'm aware, he's Eric's like best friend from the
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 4: Utah football days was a guy who was like me.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: Basically he was a walk-on.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 4: He was a snow college guy that came up, never
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 4: really got to play whatever, but he's not, it's not
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 4: like Eric's best friend on the team was some mega star.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: It was, it was a walk-on dude.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: And he was out there on the field and I
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: was like, Oh, congratulations. Congratulations on your induction into the
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 4: ring of honor. You know, it's like, it's such a
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 4: cool thing that he involves. people on every level. And so, yeah,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: good job on everyone for standing up, making their noise,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: showing their appreciation for Eric Weddle.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 9: The, uh, did you hear, uh, Sly? So the, in
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 9: the pregame network pregame with Bill Riley, Stevenson, Sylvester, Zach Moss,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 9: they got to interview Weddle and Sly told the story
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 9: of a fake punt that Weddle, uh, executed. He wasn't
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 9: a punter, but he was part of a fake punt play.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 9: Gets the first down, and Sly, it's a Raven-Steelers game,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 9: and Sly is like, He sniffed it out.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: He's on the other side of the series.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 9: He sniffed it out immediately, but Weddle still pulled it
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 9: off and he comes up to him and Weddle just
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 9: gives him that Eric Weddle laugh.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: Like, ha ha ha. That's great.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I, I can't imagine all of the ways that
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 4: that guy's pulled one over on opponents in the past.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 4: So that was a, that was a highlight of the
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 4: game for me. The, the drone halftime show. With our guy,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 4: Eric Weddle. It was good to see him in person.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 4: Great stuff. This is from Jay on the text line.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen Eric Weddle at Utes Games wearing a Super
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 4: Bowl ring. Noticed that he wasn't wearing it on Saturday.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's humble. What a great guy. And Jay also
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: seconds he wants to see me as a drone show.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 4: Thank you from 4207 also. So we've got at least
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 4: two people think that I should get my own drone show.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know how many drones, because like somebody like Weddle,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 4: he justifies like a several hundred drone show. That's like
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 4: 32-bit graphics.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 4: Maybe we could muster up 40 or 50 drones to
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 4: draw like a crude outline.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 3: Of me, just a silhouette in the night sky. And
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 3: everyone look outside right now, outside the ESPN.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 4: If you're, if you're anywhere near Broadway studios right now,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 4: we have eight drones.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny. You say that OC someday. All right. What
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 3: I liked, what I didn't like.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 4: Caden says, I did not like birds hurdle bird bird
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 4: tried to go airborne and it was kind of like,
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 4: it was, he was going out of bounds. The hurdle
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 4: took him out of bounds. So you can't hurdle when
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 4: you're going to land out of bounds. If you're going
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 4: to hurdle, you got to hurdle. So you land inbounds
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 4: unless it's like, you absolutely need to get that ball
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 4: to break the plane.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 3: And so you'll do anything.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 4: You'll go land air or sea in order to get
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 4: that ball over the line to gain. But he was
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 4: kind of, he was going to land out of bounds anyway.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 4: So I'm with you bird. Don't, Don't elevate yourself and
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 4: potentially get upended.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 3: If you're just going to land out of bounds, it.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 9: Was the poor man's true mess to maker hurdle. Is
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 9: that what you're saying? Or it's like he messed a
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 9: maker in the Oklahoma state game had to.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 3: Watch the end zone. Go watch that drew mess.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 4: The maker clearly there was no, and I admire this
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 4: from a quarterback. There was absolutely zero calculation of from
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 4: him on whether or not I'm going to be able
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 4: to land this thing safely. He just leapt face forward.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 4: It was effectively what he took off. He it's like
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 4: belly flopping from the high dive. You know, a lot
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 4: of guys, when they go to do that, that airborne dive,
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 4: when they try to hurdle over somebody, they're already kind
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 4: of twisting their body in a way where maybe everything's
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 4: going to be okay. He just belly flopped. landed and
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: all of his teams want to celebrate with them. They're,
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 4: they're coming over and he's like gingerly picking.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 3: Himself up off the turf. Like, hold on, hold on.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 4: Probably knocked the wind out of himself, but you sacrifice
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 4: your body. You make a play like that. Oklahoma state
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: legend already because he beat Oregon. Oregon came into the season.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 4: A lot of people thought that this was Oregon's year
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 4: to win a national championship.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 3: It is clearly not. Oregon's year to win a national championship.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 4: If they continue to play anything like they did against
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma state, Oklahoma state now is one of those scheduled
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 4: games for everyone in the big 12, where you're like,
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 4: which version am I going to get? Am I going
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 4: to get the version that got physically bodied by Tulsa?
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 4: Or am I going to get the version that beat
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 4: up Oregon? Because those are two, it's a Dr.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 3: Jekyll, Mr. Hyde scenario keeps things interesting. I'll tell you
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: that I do.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 9: I do feel like because I've been so publicly anti
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 9: the preseason hype that the Cowboys got Oklahoma state got
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 9: this year. I do have, I do feel like I
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 9: need to say publicly credit to them. Great win, obviously,
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 9: but I'm still not ready to say that they're going
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 9: to be what people like Joe Klatt said they would
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 9: be preseason. Like, like you just said, they, they beat Oregon,
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 9: but they also lost to Tulsa. So it's Still remains
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 9: to be seen if they're going to live up to
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 9: that hype.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: But I do have to say, hey, you proved me wrong.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 3: It's Oregon for sure. Way to go.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 4: Derek is saying that maybe if I win a Super
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 4: Bowl and receive legend status in the program, then a
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 4: drone shows a possibility.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 3: Maybe you.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I would have to at this point. I would
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 9: have to become a coach. You'd be after you'd have
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 9: to be Morgan successor.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 4: Maybe I would have to spend the next 20 years
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 4: building a coaching resume that would, would potentially justify a
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 4: drone show.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 9: Sean O'Connell, the coach that leads the youths to the
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 9: national champion.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 4: You know, I, you know how I really hope gets
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 4: in it like a super mega elaborate drone show at
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 4: some point. In fact, I'm going to advocate for this
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 4: instead of a statue. I know people don't like to
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 4: hear it. Michigan did win though. I want someday for
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 4: Kyle Whittingham to have to sit in a lawn chair,
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 4: like Eric Weddle did in the end zone while there's
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 4: a light and drone show for Kyle Whittingham.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 3: Cause you know, he's just like, what the heck, what
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 3: are these things? What is this? I don't want this.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 4: I want that to be the way we memorialize the
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 4: career of Kyle Whittingham. When the time is appropriate, when
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 4: the sour feelings have worn off, bring him back. Whole
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 4: Whittingham clan standing in the end zone behind him. You
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 4: put that weird lawn chair out there. I don't know
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: whose decision that was. And you're just like.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 7: All right, watch.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 4: And he's like confused by why did you choose a
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 4: drone show?
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 3: I want that now. Absolutely. By the way, you mentioned
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 3: that team winning that he coaches.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 9: Now, did you see him getting really salty with the
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 9: reporters about when they asked about, so how do you
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 9: feel any differently about Bryce Underwood now? And he's like, well,
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 9: I never felt differently. It was you guys. Well, yeah,
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 9: there's a little revisionist stuff there.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 3: He did. He did.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's savvy enough at this point in his career.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 4: He said, look, we didn't prepare Bryce with our game
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 4: plan for success. That was our fault.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 3: And that's the right thing to do as a coach.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 4: When bright credit to Bryce Underwood, by the way, He
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 4: really responded to the critics. And if he felt the
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 4: criticism was coming from inside the building and still responded
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 4: that way, even more of a testament to his resilience
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 4: and his mental toughness because he played well against Oklahoma.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: He made plays.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 4: He did the things he needed to do to silence
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 4: the narrative about him not being what everyone thinks he
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 4: should be. You know who that belongs to now? That's
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 4: now on Dante Moore. That's on the Oregon quarterback. Everything
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 4: that we were saying last week about Bryce Underwood, now
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 4: say about Dante Moore. What happened to you, Dante Moore?
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 4: You're supposed to be this big-time playmaker. You're supposed to
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 4: be this guy who can deliver a championship for Phil
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 4: Knight and for the Ducks, and he's compensated at pretty
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 4: much the same level, as far as we know, as
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 4: Bryce Underwood, maybe even more so on a single-season basis.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: These guys have so much.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 4: To live up to, and of course we're critical of them,
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 4: and it's probably silly sitting in a chair in Salt
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 4: Lake City But goodness, like Bryce Underwood played well. I,
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 4: you know, you know what the thing I maybe the
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 4: whole football weekend, my biggest dislike from the college football
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 4: weekend was watching John Henry daily in a Michigan uniform.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: Good game too. He is a monster. He had three
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 3: and a half tackles for loss.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 4: He was the second leading tackler in the game.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: He had just a big boy. I'm better than you sack.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 4: John Henry Daly, that's two weeks in a row now
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 4: that you just had to be painfully reminded that the
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 4: transfer portal giveth and taketh away because he transferred to Utah,
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 4: did great things at Utah, and now he's plying his
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 4: trade at Michigan. I had questions about whether or not
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 4: John Henry Daly coming off that injury, if anything was
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 4: going to translate for him. What an idiot I am. I...
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 4: Most of what we saw from the University of Utah
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 4: I liked. Something I did not like was seeing one
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 4: of the guys that should be in a Utah uniform
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 4: or could be in a Utah uniform playing like that.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 4: Holy cow.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 3: He's a beast.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 9: Got a little breaking news as of about 25 minutes ago.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 9: The trade has been agreed to.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 3: So do you think that maybe, just maybe, Ballmer.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 4: deciding not to pursue any kind of crazy legal action
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 4: and keep this thing going. Do you think that maybe
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 4: helps smooth out the opportunity for everyone?
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 3: All parties involved to say, let's just make it go away.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 4: The NBA is like, you say, sorry, we'll let the
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 4: trade and everything else go through. We won't harass Toronto.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 4: We won't harass Kauai and everyone can move on. It
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 4: just feels like the settling of the waters is a
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 4: very deliberate thing.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: Not, Not official yet.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 9: The Shams is saying they're scheduling a trade call. We
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 9: still don't know who works in the Clippers front office
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 9: right now because of the suspensions. So someone who knows
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 9: how to finalize trades at that level. is going to
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 9: need to be put in place but uh the it's
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 9: been agreed to and presumably we'll move forward soon.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 4: All right zach boss next here on the sean o'connell
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 4: show we'll talk with the utah football legend about another
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 4: big win at rice eccles ESPN 700, 92.1 FM.
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  Speaker 3: You tuned to the.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 10: Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN
• 2:08:30
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• 2:08:37
  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show. In 15 minutes,
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 4: we're going to give away A pair of tickets to
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 4: Five Finger Death Punch at the Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 4: I will have a trivia question for you. Stay tuned
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 4: for an opportunity to win some tickets. Right now, we
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 4: welcome the Utah football legend, NFL veteran, Zach Moss, who,
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 4: of course, is now roaming the radio sidelines on the
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 4: official Utah football broadcast.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 3: Zach Moss, welcome to the show. How are you, sir?
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 4: Good, good.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 8: How are you?
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Big win again, obviously, up there.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 4: At Rice Echo Stadium for this Utah football team over
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 4: at SEC squad in Arkansas that really, I mean, long
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 4: first offensive drive for Arkansas, finished with three points. And
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 4: after that, they disappeared all the way until the fourth
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 4: when the backups were in. It was an absolute demolition
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 4: by the University of Utah of those Arkansas Razorbacks. Do
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 4: you have a favorite thing from the game? Was there
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 4: something that really jumped out as the biggest positive for you?
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 15: I think, you know, I think the trenches really showed
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 15: up Saturday night on both sides of the ball for us. Obviously,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 15: you know, there's been a lot of talk about the
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 15: offensive line and things of that nature. And those guys
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 15: did an astounding job of, you know, really, really, really controlling,
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 15: you know, what we were able to do, right, and
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 15: all the different formations and giving these guys the the
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 15: playmakers space to operate and get out on the edges
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 15: and be able to run between the gaps. And on
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 15: the defensive side of the ball, we stopped, we held
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 15: them to, I want to say, 60-something rushing yards, right?
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 15: And I think four more sacks, right? I think the
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 15: defensive line really, really show, right, how good they actually
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 15: can be, right, versus a SEC school. No matter who
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 15: it may be, it's still an SEC school. And, you know,
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 15: I love to see just how quickly they jumped back
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 15: on top. Like I said, it was a little slow, essentially,
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 15: to some degree, in the first quarter. But, you know,
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 15: the offense exploded with 22 points, and the defense did
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 15: an amazing job of just closing them out.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 3: Way shot, another great game.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 4: As a running back, I lean on your expertise when
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 4: we talk about that position. only 10 carries for him and,
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 4: you know, five plus yards per carry in those carries,
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 4: but he's very active in the passing game. And so
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 4: he totals like whatever it is, 18 touches in a
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 4: game and a bunch of, you know, a hundred yards
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 4: in a game and several touchdowns in a game.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 3: Does it matter for.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 4: A running back, whether they're the receptions or carries, as
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 4: long as you're getting the ball?
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 15: Um, sometimes I would say, right. I think way Sean
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 15: is very unique in the style that, you know, we
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 15: can only give him 10 carries and he can be very,
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 15: very impactful to the game, right? You know, obviously the
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 15: first play of the game, calling his number, right, on
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 15: a 50-yard pass, and he comes up with the ball, right?
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 15: Not a lot of backs can do that, right? And
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 15: I think that's what you see in the next level.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 15: I'm sure he's challenged himself on that as well because,
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 15: you know, at the next level, you can't just be,
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 15: a runner, right? You got to be able to do
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 15: a lot of different things. And pass catching the ball
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 15: is where the really, really dynamic guys are. And he's
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 15: been able to show that now in the last two
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 15: games as well. And I think that is a huge
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 15: part to the offense. And, you know, I'm sure he'll
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 15: have his games where, you know, there's 15, there's 20
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 15: carries and You know, maybe it's a little bit lesser
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 15: on the offensive side of the ball when it comes
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 15: to catching for him. But right now he's being able
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 15: to put a lot of different things and showcasing that
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 15: right now.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 4: Kevin McGiven is now second game in a row. He's
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 4: gone into the bag a little bit and given us
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 4: some unique things. That play you just referenced, which is
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 4: a double pass throwback from Bird all the way across
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 4: the field to Weishan for that big long completion.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 3: You also had.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 4: The handoff option run with the two quarterback system. As
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 4: a guy who played this game at the highest level,
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, you've seen a lot of playbooks. What do
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 4: you think of this one and the glimpses we're getting
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 4: of it?
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 7: I really do love it. I really do love it.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 15: I think more so than anything, I think that people
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 15: should think about is think about just how smart these
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 15: guys are, that we can have so many different formations,
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 15: so many different moving parts, right? And it all is
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 15: gelling so well, like a well-oiled machine, right? Like the
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 15: players need so much more credit on, you know, being
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 15: able to digest all of this stuff and then go
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 15: out and execute it flawlessly, right? It's so many little
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 15: things that can happen to where, you know, the formations
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 15: can be, you know, gimmicky, cute sometimes, whatever it may be,
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 15: and something can go wrong, but these guys have been
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 15: able to make all of the stuff that is really,
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 15: really hard to do, especially when you talk about reading
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 15: the adoption stuff. That's really hard to do. Not a
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 15: lot of quarterbacks can do that. I wanted to give
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 15: a lot of credit to the players. Coach McGivins obviously
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 15: has had an outstanding plan each and every week the
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 15: first two weeks right i think going back to last
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 15: week right uh bill said it on the show it
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 15: was like you know we showed a lot without doing
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 15: a lot right and that made um arkansas had to
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 15: plan for so many different formations and then we came
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 15: out and showed even different some more different formations and
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 15: you can just tell the type of how confused they
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 15: were just by having to see that. And, you know,
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 15: sometimes we lined up with absolutely no one in the backfield, right?
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 15: And most people can ask yourself, oh, why do you
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 15: line up like that? And then you just motion right
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 15: back into it. But communication at that last second, you
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 15: get the snap off, which confuses the defense. It was
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 15: really a nice piece of art on Saturday night.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 4: To the tune of a 43, 10 victory over the
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 4: Arkansas Razorbacks. So the youths are two and oh, they're
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 4: up to number 17 in the rankings. I still think
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 4: we have to figure out a lot of things about
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 4: this team.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 3: I echo your sentiment. I liked it.
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 4: The offensive line, the defensive line played well in this game.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 3: Now you've got Utah state.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 4: So you've got, you know, FCS team, Then an SEC team,
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 4: although a bottom-dwelling SEC team. Then you've got a Utah
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 4: State team that knows a couple of your guys really well,
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 4: that knows Kevin McGibbon really well.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 3: Bronco Mendenhall was his boss last year.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 4: And a lot of these Utah State guys are guys
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 4: that either wish they played at Utah or wish they
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 4: played at BYU. Coaches all over the staff that know
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 4: each other incredibly well. How much do you think the
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 4: dynamic changes because of the familiarity that Utah State has
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 4: with Utah?
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 15: Yeah, that's definitely a challenge. You know, and obviously we
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 15: won't know just how much of a challenge it is
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 15: until you roll the ball out there and you play.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 15: But it's definitely something you can't overlook, I think, which
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 15: we have obviously a lot more talent on our side
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 15: of the ball. And these guys are hungry, right? I think,
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 15: you know. It's great to be friends, right, from the
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 15: coaching staff and the players' side of things before kickoff.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 15: But once that ball kicks off, right, all that goes
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 15: out of the window. And then you can pick that
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 15: back up after you come out of there with another
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 15: blowout win, hopefully. But, you know, I think our players, right,
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 15: are up for the challenge. You know, I love, you know,
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 15: just seeing how locked in each and every player, every
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 15: coach was. getting ready for the Arkansas game. I highly
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 15: doubt it will be any different Saturday at 1.30.
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 4: So Brayden Pagan obviously was their leading receiver last year,
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 4: and then like three games into the new season, he's
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 4: now playing against a bunch of his former teammates. And
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 4: this is becoming more normal in college football, but really
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 4: the first time we see it or the normal times
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 4: we see it is, in the NFL where a guy,
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 4: you know, plays for a franchise and then he plays
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 4: against that franchise later on.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 3: How many, how many times did you have to do
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 3: that in the league?
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 15: Um, actually, you know, I, when I left Buffalo, I
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 15: never got a chance to play them again. Um, and
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 15: then my, after I left, uh, Indianapolis, I went to Cincinnati. Um,
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 15: we actually had a, uh, preseason game and a joint practice, uh,
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 15: against them right that following season. So that was pretty
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 15: cool to see all the all the guys that you
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 15: just went to war with um in that past season
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 15: and stuff like that so like i said it'd be
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 15: a great thing for these guys right because that's what
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 15: football is about it's about families about making those connections
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 15: and things of that nature um but also right you're
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 15: talking about being super competitors right at the same time
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 15: so you know, all the talk of, man, I would
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 15: have been able to lock you up. I would have
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 15: made that tackle on you right now. You get an
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 15: actual opportunity to do that. So that even raises it
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 15: even more. I think sometimes at least for myself, when
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 15: you talk about knowing the person that's lined up against
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 15: across from you versus not knowing that person.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 4: Big picture in the big 12 conference, Utah looked really good.
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 4: These last two games, BYU had a tough one against Arizona,
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 4: came out as winners. You got Texas Tech, who's there
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 4: also 2-0, but they haven't looked all that impressive. Kansas
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 4: State looks pretty good. Oklahoma State, I have no idea.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 4: They lost to Tulsa, but then they beat Oregon. Is
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 4: Utah now at the top of the heap alongside BYU
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 4: in the Big 12, as far as we could tell?
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 15: I think from the style of wins that they've had
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 15: so far, right, obviously going out and handling Idaho in
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 15: the season opener, you know, not playing around with that
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 15: game and then obviously going up in a challenge versus
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 15: Arkansas and, you know, single-handedly dominating that game from the
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 15: rest of that second quarter down. I think you have to,
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 15: but I think, you know, at the same time, I
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 15: think it's like you said, it's still a lot of,
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 15: questions that we need to be answered about this team.
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 15: And we'll get another chance at it on Saturday here. But,
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 15: you know, I don't think you really learn a lot
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 15: about a team and the identity and the culture of
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 15: things of that nature that really shape a team and
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 15: who they are until about week four. This team hasn't
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 15: had any real adversity. So we need to see that
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 15: first and see how they bounce back. And, you know,
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 15: that's the great thing about football. We got a few,
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 15: we got a lot of weeks here to continue to
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 15: learn about this team.
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 4: Zach, we'll see you up there again on Saturday. Appreciate
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 4: you giving us time today.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: Take care.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 4: Zach Moss, sideline reporter now for the official Utah radio broadcast.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 3: Of course, Bill Riley on the calls.
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 4: Stevenson Sylvester is the new color analyst this season.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 3: Porter Larson is filling in for Spence today. That's right.
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 9: I love to hear it. It's producer day. On the
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 9: drive with Spence Jenkins.
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 3: That's great. Where's Spence? What's Spence doing? He's supposed to
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 3: tell me when he's on or off, even though I'm
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 3: not his boss at all.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 3: He's supposed to send that text, and you're supposed to
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 3: say congratulations. Yes. Snarkily. We never got that text. All right. Okay, Spence.
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 3: We see you.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 4: Either way, we're going to give away some tickets next.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 4: Five-finger death punch. It'll be a trivia question or two. Well,
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 4: just one, because we only have one pair of tickets
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 4: to give away. Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN 700, 92.1 FM.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 10: You're listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 10: Hyundai Studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700, Utah football, 2-0 now.
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 4: We've got a couple of tickets we're willing to give
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 4: away if you can answer this question properly. Five Finger
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 4: Death Punch is coming to the Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 3: Two tickets.
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 4: If you could tell me who currently leads the Utes
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 4: in touchdowns scored.
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 11: 877-353-0700.
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 4: If you know the answer to that question, we will
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 4: give you a pair of tickets to Five Finger Death Punch.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 3: Porter Larson filling in for Spence today.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 8: What up?
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 3: It'll be Jordan Bianucci behind the glass. Is that what
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 3: I'm told? Our guy JB. I love that.
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 4: A little extra flavor from our sister station coming over
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 4: to ESPN 700.
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 3: Saw you up there on Saturday night.
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 4: The celebratory atmosphere as Eric Weddle was inducted into the
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 4: Ring of Honor. Rightfully so. And Utah absolutely molly whopped
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 4: the Razorbacks. Not a lot left to be desired from
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 4: a performance like that one.
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 16: No, I mean, when you can, and listen, we understand
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 16: Arkansas is not Alabama. They are frankly, not even the
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 16: top tier of the big 12 at the moment.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 3: They're in a bad spot.
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 16: Silverfield's working with 70 plus new players on that roster.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 16: His first year as a head coach.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 16: Morgan Scali is in his first year as a head coach,
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 16: completely different situation. So that all being said, When you
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 16: beat an SEC team 43-10, and it really wasn't that close,
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 16: to be honest with you. There was a moment during
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 16: the second half where it looked like a cat playing
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 16: with a ball of yarn. That's what that game looked
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 16: like at certain points over the course of the night.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 3: And you.
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 16: Can't expect too much more than that from the University
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 16: of Utah perspective.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 5: Now, as.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 16: was the case last week. We can nitpick if we
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 16: want to. There are things that we can get into,
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 16: but just a really, really good showing. And I think
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 16: some of the question marks that I had coming into
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 16: the season, very much answered. And to do it in
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 16: front of Eric on a night like that is pretty cool.
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 4: It's funny because the question marks, I always pat myself
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 4: on the back when I'm right.
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 3: And so I take every....
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 4: The offensive line, which I was like, yeah, I think
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 4: they're going to be okay, but I don't think we
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 4: get a super solid answer on what the final product
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 4: looks like until week three, four, five. And Morgan Scali
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 4: sort of confirmed that in his presser today, that it's
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 4: going to take a little bit more time before we
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 4: know what the full rotation looks like.
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 3: And by the way, it is a rotation.
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 4: I've always been uncomfortable with that when it comes to
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 4: starting offensive linemen, but like Solito Moya and Kelvin Obot.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 3: It's like a 60, 40 split at left guard right now.
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 3: It's been interesting to watch. I'm with you.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 16: I think that, and I think you will see them
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 16: kind of lean into a, a starting five at some point,
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 16: but Keith Olson still getting healthy, healthy, right? There's, uh,
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 16: there's an ability for Utah to go with eight, nine,
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 16: 10 guys sometimes. And that is a problem.
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 3: That's good to have.
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: Um, yes, you'd like to, to.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 16: Have your five known and straightforward, but I mean, if
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 16: you're rotating in and the production is still there, perfect.
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 16: Cause then you have depth when you need it, right?
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 16: Not when you are still figuring things out, but later
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 16: in the year where you're going to need at some point, uh,
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 16: some guys to, to get some breathers or out with
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 16: injury that that's going to happen at some point during
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 16: the big 12 slate. And to, to see that you
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 16: already have that depth, um, Maybe not producing at the
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 16: level we saw last year, but producing at a level
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 16: that is allowing Utah's offense to be productive and efficient.
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 3: Well, I was encouraged.
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 4: We talked about there's a few bright spots on Arkansas's team,
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 4: and they're few and far between.
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 3: And they did nothing in this game. Quincy Rhodes Jr.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 4: May or may not be a first-round draft, but he's
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 4: going to be an NFL football player.
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 3: He's going to be a good NFL football player. And
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 3: he was... Absent.
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 4: He had one tackle in this game. It was a
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 4: tackle for loss, but he had one tackle in this game.
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 4: On the opposite side, Stephen Soles Jr., who's somebody that
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 4: Morgan Scali was telling everybody, watch out for 35. 35's
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 4: a real player. He also had one tackle in this game.
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 4: That is your tackles, your offensive linemen winning those battles.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 4: And that's encouraging to see because those are presumably as
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 4: good as you're going to see this year.
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 16: The one-on-one matchups that you just mentioned were really promising.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 16: Even more so for me was the fact that Utah,
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 16: for the first time, this offensive line was going up
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 16: against a front, a defensive scheme that poses some challenges pre-snap.
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 16: They run this 3-3-5, sometimes it's a 4-2-5 line, but
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 16: what they do before the snap is they try to
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 16: confuse you on which one that's going to be, whether
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 16: it's an odd man front, whether it's those three man front,
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 16: and you don't really know until the ball is snapped
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 16: because they've got a linebacker creeping up where they got
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 16: one of the ends dropping back.
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 3: It's, it's.
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 16: Notoriously a tough defense for the offensive line, the quarterback
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 16: to ID pre-snap. There were no such struggles for Utah
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 16: on Saturday night. They handled that really well. And, And that,
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 16: to me, was as promising as seeing your left tackle
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 16: handle a future NFL guy. That's something you've got to
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 16: love if you're a Utah fan. The offensive line was
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 16: up to snuff, for sure.
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 4: Really great to see this Utah team come through the
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 4: way they did against solid athletes, if nothing else. The
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 4: Big 12 at large is drunk and can't figure out
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 16: Cause I'm going to do a power pole in the
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 16: show coming up. And I was just going through it,
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 16: trying to figure out like what that will look like.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 16: And the only real solid poll that I could come
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 16: up with was the top six. And the top three
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 16: are a different tier, I think, right now. And then
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 16: from there on, man, like Baylor, Arizona, Oklahoma State, Colorado, TCU,
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 16: I don't know what they are yet.
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 3: It's week two, week three. I get it.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 4: Even though people were high on, we don't know exactly
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 4: what they are right now, but Oklahoma State is the
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 4: most confusing 69 to three last year to Oregon.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 3: And then they beat Oregon and I.
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 4: Stay like George Reister, friend of the program. Uh, Jeff Schwartz,
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 4: obviously real friend in real life. Like I follow those
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 4: guys closely. They live tweet every game all the time.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 4: They're both Oregon alum. Those guys were losing their minds
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 4: from the first quarter.
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 16: I would be too. I, since Dan Lanning has been
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 16: the head coach at Oregon, they have had one of
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 16: the most physical teams in college football week in and
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 16: week out, like whether they win, whether they lose, you
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 16: watch them and you, you can see that they are
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 16: imposing their will on the team across from them. That's
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 16: not the case anymore. At least not early this season.
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 16: And that's been, that's been really interesting to watch. I'm
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 16: not sure what's going on there.
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 4: So we'll watch it all develop. BYU looks good. Utah
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 4: looks good. Hopefully everything stays that way until we get
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 4: to rice cycle stated by November 7th.
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 16: Wouldn't that be nice. Now they don't necessarily have to
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 16: be running the table until then.
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 16: But if you get a couple of teams, one loss
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 16: or less, uh, that's, that's going to make for some,
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 16: some really fun football and, and probably some national attention on, uh,
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 16: on that matchup coming in.
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 3: As, as there should be. Yes.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 16: Um, Regardless, those are two teams that are going to
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 16: be contending for a Big 12 championship. And in today's age,
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 16: that means two teams contending for a college football playoff spot.
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 16: So there should be attention on that game. I think
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 16: they are the top two teams in the Big 12
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 16: right now.
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 3: It looks like it.
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 16: Texas Tech, and I said this before the year, I'll
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 16: pat myself on the back like you were saying, it's
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 16: not them and everyone else. Like a lot of folks
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 16: thought were coming in. That's not the same team they
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 16: had last year.
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 3: They lost a lot.
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 16: Um, a lot of distractions in the off season and
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 16: I don't think they replaced some of the stuff they, they're,
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 16: they're missing. So I think BYU and Utah as of today,
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 16: it's early, it's still early. Those are my favorites in
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 16: the big 12. And that's going to be a topic
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 16: of conversation on the show today.
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 4: I was right and wrong about Texas tech because I
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 4: thought that they were going to take a step back,
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 4: but I didn't think it would be because of the
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 4: quarterback position. I thought that will, I was like, will
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 4: Hammond is an awesome quarterback. He has not played awesome
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 4: as of yet. I think the injury was a little
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 4: bit more taxing to him than we gave credit, or
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 4: at least that I gave credit. My expectations for Texas
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 4: Tech were that they would not be what they were
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 4: last year defensively, and they're not. But I was like,
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 4: they'll be fine at the quarterback position because Will Hammond
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 4: is as good as it gets. Maybe that won't be
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 4: true as the year plays out.
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 16: But at the same time, a quarterback's best friend is
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 16: a good defense. I do think Will Hammond's good, but
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 16: coming off an injury and Not having the advantage that
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 16: you had last year of Texas Tech, causing turnovers and
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 16: giving you short fields, that's going to make your job tougher.
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 3: And I think it obviously has. Your guy, E-Dub, in
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 3: the Ring of Honor.
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 3: Drone show. The drone show was so cool. I heard
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 3: that yours is in the planning stages. I need one now.
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 3: I need one.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 4: Even if it's just like ESPN 700 and then my face.
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 4: 11 to 2.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 3: I'll have it at two. That's it. That's all I need.
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 3: A little advertisement up there.
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 4: How many, how many drones would I have to buy
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 4: in order to just like force that upon rice cycle stadium?
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 16: I'm a little uneasy with all the drones. Part of
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 16: me is just scared of robots and such. So that's,
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 16: it's the drone show was cool. It was, it was
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 16: well done. It was actually a lot like more well
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 16: done than a lot of ones that I've seen. It
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 16: was like actually 3d and moving.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 3: It's really cool. Um, can we get a highlight package though?
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 3: Well, That's the one thing.
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 16: That's a guy who's made more plays, more interesting plays,
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 16: more dynamic plays than anyone in your school's history, maybe.
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 16: Just throw a few up there, please. Other than that, though,
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 16: really cool night. Cool to see E-Dub and friend of
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 16: the show. Yeah, a good win.
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 3: Good win for Utes. Porter will be talking about it.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 4: I imagine he'll allow Jordan Bianucci to talk about it
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 3: Of course. Stay tuned.
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 4: It's the drive with Porter filling in for Spence next.
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 4: We'll do the Sean O'Connell show again tomorrow, ESPN 700,
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 4: 92 on FM.