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Jaguars Reporters: Monday, April 19 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Nothing's changed. He was the best player in his draft
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Speaker 1: reporting season began, He's the best player in the draft.
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Speaker 1: When the season ended, He's the best player in the draft.
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Speaker 1: Two weeks out in the draft. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters
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Speaker 1: presented by t I a A Bank with Brian Sexton,
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Speaker 1: John Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan and j P. Shadrins Presented by
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Speaker 1: t I a A Bank starts right now. Time for
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters. Isn't it always climed to hear from me? Easy? Yep,
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Speaker 1: got something to say today, JP, But we'll know really really,
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Speaker 1: so you're just gonna get back and relax and you
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Speaker 1: guys joy and no we're what ten days to the draft? Yeah? Goodness. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's a at least a look that there's always a
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Speaker 1: little buzz, but there hasn't been a lot happening in
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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. But now with all this
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Speaker 1: n f l p A stuff, it's the off season program.
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Speaker 1: You know, we got Trevor in the news all weekend.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot kind of happening. Can you can you
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Speaker 1: do a big hey, this is Jaguars Reporters kind of
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Speaker 1: thing to get us started. Didn't you just do that,
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Speaker 1: I guess I did. I just feel like we needed
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Speaker 1: it this morning some juice. You know, you get close
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Speaker 1: to the draft and it does start to track. I said,
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Speaker 1: can we do this thing? Already? Getting real tired of it.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear some of that over the course of
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Speaker 1: this podcast this morning, start with Jaguars this week, virtual
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Speaker 1: program start today. Um, any of you get a link,
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Speaker 1: sadly not. But I did walk in this morning and
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Speaker 1: they're all out there in their tents getting COVID tested
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Speaker 1: big day to day. So yes, I think it's good news. However,
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Speaker 1: I think Urban would definitely want it to be in person,
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Speaker 1: so kind of halfway getting what he wants. JP mentioned
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Speaker 1: ten days from the draft, please it can't come fast enough,
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Speaker 1: and then, uh, you know this was just a matter
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Speaker 1: of time. But we heard from Trevor Lawrence that he
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Speaker 1: is uh circling back with the Jaguars, the city of
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville and fans donating twenty dollars to Jacksonville charity. So
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Speaker 1: if anyone was wondering at all, if there was even
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Speaker 1: the slidest chain ends that Urban Meyer was directing people
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Speaker 1: away from what their real intentions were, He's coming right.
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Speaker 1: This was the said, right, all right, let's all acknowledge
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Speaker 1: the obvious. Trevor Lawrence will be here wearing number sixteen
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Speaker 1: a week from Thursday, or at least virtually he'll be there.
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Speaker 1: I don't think we've heard enough from you yet to
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Speaker 1: start Oh yeah, and uh it's this. There was never
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Speaker 1: a doubt. But every step of the way with Trevor,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the excitement for me builds, but
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Speaker 1: the I guess the comfort level that no matter what happens,
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Speaker 1: he's the right fit and the potential for coolness of this.
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Speaker 1: I guess I'm you know, tempering a little bit because
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Speaker 1: I can't do a cart wheels like Brian's been doing
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Speaker 1: since December over this. But you just sort of feel
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Speaker 1: more and more like the kid gets it. He understands
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Speaker 1: how to take each step in this, because there's really
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Speaker 1: no precedent for I know, everybody knew that the Colts
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Speaker 1: were gonna draft Andrew looking to you guys eleven or twelve,
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Speaker 1: but that was a different social media time. I don't
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Speaker 1: think he had Colts fans buying him toasters. I don't
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Speaker 1: know that the Colts fan base was as hungry for
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Speaker 1: this to happen. At the time, they were just coming
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Speaker 1: off ten years of page they sort of assumed it
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Speaker 1: the hunger for this kid to come in. Uh. From
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Speaker 1: his perspective, it's got to be a little tricky to
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Speaker 1: handle to know how to handle it right when this happened,
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Speaker 1: and I think so far he seems to know how
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Speaker 1: to take the right steps and how to handle everything,
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Speaker 1: and I think that will continue. The enthusiasm is obviously there,
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Speaker 1: which brings us to this that existing season ticket members
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Speaker 1: need to lock in their seats now because soon those
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Speaker 1: who are like John excited about Trevor Lawrence and the
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Speaker 1: already placed deposits for new season tickets will be able
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Speaker 1: um up at nine oh four six three two thousand.
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Speaker 1: There are a team of representatives ready to help you
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Speaker 1: get back in the bank in We hear them every
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Speaker 1: single day, that team of representatives there working. They keep
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Speaker 1: the lights on this little thing ready for a rub
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Speaker 1: big things. We'll start with us. We will start with me,
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Speaker 1: all right, so this we all kind of have a
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Speaker 1: very similar big thing this week, but it's the trending
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Speaker 1: topic about the Trevor Lawrence Sports Illustrated article, And I,
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Speaker 1: for one, when I read it, I didn't really think
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Speaker 1: anything of it. I thought, you know, this is a
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Speaker 1: really interesting perspective, unique refreshing. You could say that he
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to manufacture this chip that doesn't need to
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Speaker 1: be there. Then I was watching ESPN all week and
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Speaker 1: they were saying, you know, this Andrew Luck comparison on
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Speaker 1: the field, that's awesome, that's a huge compliment. But the
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck come parison with this article that he could
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Speaker 1: step away from the game of football, GMS beware that
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence could just step away. That's a really unfair
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Speaker 1: comparison in my book, because you look at Andrew Luck's
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Speaker 1: injury history that is a big proponent of why he
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Speaker 1: stepped away from the game. Trevor Lawrence doesn't have that
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Speaker 1: injury history. I just thought the whole thing was so
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Speaker 1: overplayed and so unfair to compare Trevor Lawrence to Andrew
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Speaker 1: Luck when that injury history is the reason Andrew Luck
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Speaker 1: stepped away from the game. Well, a couple of thoughts.
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Speaker 1: First of all, even if you knew Trevor Lawrence was
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Speaker 1: going to step away when Andrew stepped away, you'd still
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Speaker 1: take it. And I don't know if you do cartwheels,
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Speaker 1: but you would walk away now and you made a
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Speaker 1: good pick. Was it four playoff appearances? He was almost
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Speaker 1: m v P one year. I mean he was, you
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Speaker 1: know not well, I'll google it. Um. Look, this is
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Speaker 1: also sort of I'll go ahead and say my big
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Speaker 1: thing because it's a sort of thing thing. It pretty
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Speaker 1: much goes to that saying that to worry about Trevor's
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Speaker 1: desire is about the stupidest pre draft stuff ever. In Jackson.
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Speaker 1: You might as well say yours because you all are
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Speaker 1: kind of on this theme. Yeah, I mean I switched
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Speaker 1: mine out because it was kind of the same thing,
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Speaker 1: because it was because it was, you know, everybody needs
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Speaker 1: something at this point with ten days to go to
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Speaker 1: discuss talk about and controversy brings instant clicks and all
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Speaker 1: that stuff. That's the new era of can I just
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Speaker 1: look if if that is how Trevor Lawrence approaches the
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Speaker 1: game of football, I'm all in because his results speak
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Speaker 1: for him, right, and I appreciate someone in this day
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Speaker 1: and age especially, who will tell anybody his truth, and
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Speaker 1: his truth is is that his faith and his family
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Speaker 1: take a bigger place in his life. And I imagine
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Speaker 1: it does for all of you and for most of
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Speaker 1: the people who are listening today. But he's willing to
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Speaker 1: step up and say it. Look, the guy has achieved,
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Speaker 1: and I'm guessing he hasn't changed. I read the article,
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Speaker 1: and the article had a versation with his high school
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Speaker 1: coach where he recalled the story of Trevor coming in
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Speaker 1: as a freshman, saying, I just want to be the
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Speaker 1: best that's ever done it. En, I've seen that sort
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Speaker 1: of progress through his career. Clemson, give me a break
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Speaker 1: in the internet. Just shut up for a while. This
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Speaker 1: is why I can't This is why I don't have Twitter,
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Speaker 1: because I don't want to read. I just can't get
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Speaker 1: caught up in this stuff. This kid, even if he
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Speaker 1: did as you said, you would take him in a heartbeat. Well,
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Speaker 1: and Ashland's right, one guy's story is not necessarily another
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Speaker 1: guy's story. And it's gotten to the point now where
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Speaker 1: if you can't say anything. If if he had said,
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Speaker 1: football is my entire life, I can't live without it.
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Speaker 1: If I don't win the Super Bowl in my first year,
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Speaker 1: my wife and throwing myself off a bridge. Somebody would
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Speaker 1: have criticized that, So you can't say anything. All he
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Speaker 1: did was trying to be honest. His father tried to
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Speaker 1: be honest and they got burned for it. I guess
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Speaker 1: in a sense, welcome to the NFL because that's what happens,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Twitter because that's what happens. But everything
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Speaker 1: was so picked apart in this. I'm with you, guys.
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Speaker 1: After reading this, I was more excited about Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: coming here because it sounds like he has perspective. It
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Speaker 1: sounds like he has a maturity coming into this thing
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Speaker 1: that frankly, a lot of young quarterbacks don't have. He
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Speaker 1: could have easily gotten away with just saying the cliche
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Speaker 1: of a girl, but he has. It sounds like he
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Speaker 1: has more to him than that, and I like that.
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Speaker 1: You know, and you may have experienced this to George,
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Speaker 1: because I know you do a lot of speaking engagements.
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Speaker 1: Um I get out into a room, you know, whether
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Speaker 1: it's a rotary club or charity gala on a Saturday night,
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Speaker 1: and everybody wants to talk football, right, they know you're
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Speaker 1: there from the Jaguars and there. That's easy, that's what
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Speaker 1: we do. But there's always someone that says, I really know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not a Jaguars fan, I'm not a football fan.
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Speaker 1: I don't really care about sports. Well that's the person
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Speaker 1: I'm drawn to. Tell me something about you then, right,
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Speaker 1: Because we do this for a living, Trevor does this
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Speaker 1: for a living. You encounter someone who has a different background,
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Speaker 1: who has something else that lights their fire. What tell
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Speaker 1: me about you? What do you like? That? To me
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Speaker 1: is refreshing. It's the all football, all the time, and
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Speaker 1: it grates on you no matter where they are. You
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Speaker 1: just can't take it. So for him, he's showing you
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Speaker 1: that he has got a a big picture perspective, which
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Speaker 1: you really you appreciate that when you come in and
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Speaker 1: pay him because he's going to be able to put
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Speaker 1: everything in perspective and up burn out. Just a very
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Speaker 1: unique guy. It seems to me when he said that
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Speaker 1: he listened to Casey Musgrave's before his pro days, like
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Speaker 1: this is a different guy and there's nothing song he's
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Speaker 1: like very folksy, like you'd hear in Starbucks. Like it's
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Speaker 1: not something at all I would picture listening to before
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Speaker 1: pro day. You know, one last thought on this they'
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Speaker 1: I'll give you my big thing. Um. I remember a
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Speaker 1: year or two into this, um, and you guys know
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Speaker 1: Vick Catchman and you met him when he was here.
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Speaker 1: He said something to me. I was young, and I
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Speaker 1: didn't really get it at the moment, kind of went
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Speaker 1: off the top of my head. But he said, people
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Speaker 1: who don't care have the greatest advantage in life. And
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Speaker 1: I went, what, what's that? And he goes, they don't care.
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence doesn't care whether or not you think he
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Speaker 1: should be the most football centered person on earth. He
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Speaker 1: doesn't care. He shouldn't care. Look what he's achieved by
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Speaker 1: not worrying about what others think of what he says
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Speaker 1: about his faith or football or his family. He doesn't care.
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Speaker 1: He shouldn't care. His fans have been waiting for years
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Speaker 1: to get somebody who's different. Who's there. Sounds like they're
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Speaker 1: gonna get awesome, all right, here's mine. Um, Look, there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a top notch defensive player at and at
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Speaker 1: thirty three. And I don't think the Jaguars should hesitate
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Speaker 1: to take them at both spots. If that's the case.
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Speaker 1: And I know that there's this desire to just wrap
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in weapons. But I'm telling you you cannot
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Speaker 1: pass on value, which has been a word we've talked
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Speaker 1: about on this show a lot this year. But when
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Speaker 1: you have up to five quarterbacks who could go in
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Speaker 1: the top twelve picks, you've got two offensive tackles, you've
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Speaker 1: got a tight end if that's what you want to
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Speaker 1: call him, a big receiver, and three other receivers who
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Speaker 1: could go there, it's gonna push some players down the board.
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Speaker 1: There's an injury to Caleb Farley right now, apparently he
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Speaker 1: checked out clean. This guy's Jalen Ramsay. He's long, he's fast,
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Speaker 1: he's tall, he's hyper competitive. What if he slides down
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Speaker 1: the board because of concerns? But your doctors have no issue,
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Speaker 1: O Bang, I mean, that's value. Christian Barmore is the
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Speaker 1: best defensive tackle in the draft, but it's not a
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Speaker 1: good draft for defensive tackles. He could slide down the board.
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Speaker 1: Zaven Collins could slide to that position from about fifteen. Uh,
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Speaker 1: Jason is it o A? The pass rusher from Penn
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Speaker 1: State is climbing. People like talked to say they're his
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Speaker 1: excitement about this guy because he's got sort of a
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Speaker 1: Javan cursed like body, you know, long six ft six,
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Speaker 1: and he's an explosive edge rusher who can bend. There's
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Speaker 1: a bunch of these guys. You're gonna find yourself in
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Speaker 1: a position where there probably be and maybe Trevor Morrig
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Speaker 1: slides there. Although all I keep hearing is is that
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Speaker 1: this is a guy who's going to go between fifteen
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Speaker 1: and twenty because teams aren't going to pass on the
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Speaker 1: best safety in the draft at a position that's so
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Speaker 1: important at and thirty three. If the best players on
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Speaker 1: the border defense take them, explosive running back and tight end,
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Speaker 1: score we want to outscore people. Um, I'm with you.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're both defensive picks. I don't think
12:29
Speaker 1: you have to narrow it in and that both have
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Speaker 1: to be defensive picks because you did a lot of
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Speaker 1: defensive work in free agents. I'm not saying they have
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Speaker 1: to be. I'm just saying, don't be scared to be
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Speaker 1: because so many people think it has to be offense. Well,
12:39
Speaker 1: it kind of has to be offense because we haven't
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Speaker 1: had much offense around here in a long time. But look,
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Speaker 1: at the run defense last year too. You just need
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Speaker 1: so many things you can make a case for both sides,
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Speaker 1: and both are very legitimate. Yeah, I still continue to
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Speaker 1: look at the first six picks more than I do
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Speaker 1: the first three. I understand Bryan's take is about and
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Speaker 1: thirty three, and they're gonna wind up taking two speed
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Speaker 1: guys because they didn't addressed explosiveness as much in free
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Speaker 1: agency as I think they eventually will. Um And then
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Speaker 1: I think you go tight end, uh, probably offensive tackle
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Speaker 1: and defensive tackle somewhere in those first six, and I
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Speaker 1: think that's what you'll see the formula. How it comes out,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I wouldn't surprise me if you see
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Speaker 1: one defensive guy in that three. It just feels like
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Speaker 1: they're gonna get somebody high up, whose elite level, who
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Speaker 1: can score touchdowns. We'll find out. I guess my point
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Speaker 1: is that this is year one for Urban and Trepp,
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Speaker 1: who are coming off of a one in fifteen season.
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Speaker 1: You can't afford to pass on great players, no matter
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Speaker 1: where they are, and if a thirty three the best
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Speaker 1: player on the board is someone who gives you a
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Speaker 1: long term solution, and defense wouldn't pass that up. All right,
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Speaker 1: that'll do it for big things time now for Did
13:56
Speaker 1: you hear this and you caught up with the guy
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Speaker 1: who's been around Jaguars dot com for years, John Tony Pauline. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And he was interesting in the sense that I asked
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Speaker 1: him because I have any more questions? Can you ask
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Speaker 1: about Trevor? You know, I didn't ask him about, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff off the field. I didn't
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Speaker 1: ask him about that. But I said, give me something
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Speaker 1: that is interesting that we don't already know about Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: something that maybe you haven't heard anywhere, and and he
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Speaker 1: kind of laughed. But his response was the Jaguars are
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Speaker 1: fortunate they have the number one pick in a year
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Speaker 1: where not only is a quarterback there to take, but
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Speaker 1: he's legitimately the best player in the draft. And that's
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Speaker 1: an important distinction because you've had drafts where St. Baker
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Speaker 1: Mayfield or um Jared Goff have gone number one. But
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Speaker 1: there were serious questions about if this were a different year,
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Speaker 1: would this be the top I taken? If if he
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Speaker 1: weren't a quarterback, would he be the top guy taken?
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Speaker 1: Well in this draft, I everyth need a quarter I
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Speaker 1: need a franchise guy. And they also happened to have
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Speaker 1: a guy who is not only the best out of
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Speaker 1: this draft, maybe the best inn in five or six years.
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Speaker 1: And we've heard before, but it's interesting to step back
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Speaker 1: and remember that this is not a normal year. This
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Speaker 1: is special. He's the best player in the draft. And
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Speaker 1: you know, as I predicted in January, what you're what
15:27
Speaker 1: you were going to start to see is people start
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Speaker 1: to poke holes in his game that didn't exist. You know,
15:33
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson played better in two thousand and twenty. Well,
15:35
Speaker 1: I don't think Zach Wilson played better. I think Zack
15:37
Speaker 1: Wilson is a good quarterback who just played against the
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Speaker 1: furor of competition. Now you're hearing Kyle Pitts is the
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Speaker 1: best player in the draft because of his you know,
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Speaker 1: his workout. I don't think Kyle Pitts is the best
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Speaker 1: player in the draft. Kyle Pitts is a very good player.
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Speaker 1: He's a great prospect, he's a sensational athlete. But Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence is still heading shoulders ahead of ahead of Kyle Pitts,
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Speaker 1: ahead of everybody else. It doesn't come closely. There's there's
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Speaker 1: really you're gonna have to stretch to manufacture problems in
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence's game on and off the field. You know,
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Speaker 1: as we spoke about during the Senior Bowl, the guy
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Speaker 1: is a great leader. I mean he did not have
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Speaker 1: great talent around him this year at Clemson. He had
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Speaker 1: basically mediocre receivers. Did have Travis a t n uh
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Speaker 1: you know that that has to be pointed out. He
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Speaker 1: lost four fifths of his offensive line from two thousand nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Yet he led that and even when he missed games
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Speaker 1: because of COVID, he led that team uh in through
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Speaker 1: the into the semifinals. You look at his off the
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Speaker 1: field leadership. I mean, the fact of the matter is
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Speaker 1: this a lot of the fact that we had a
16:43
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty college football season, in my belief, is
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Speaker 1: h down to the leadership that Trevor Lawrence showed. Because
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Speaker 1: when the conferences, the Big Ten, the Mountain West, the Pact,
16:54
Speaker 1: well we're canceling seasons, postponing seasons, Trevor Lawrence, along with
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Speaker 1: a few other player but primary Trevor Lawrence step to
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Speaker 1: the forefront and said let us play. We want to play.
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Speaker 1: He got his face out there and was the public
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Speaker 1: figure say we want to get on the football field
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Speaker 1: and play. So and and there are other issues with
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence where he took a leadership role. So to me,
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Speaker 1: my take is when everyone's trying to poke holes in
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Speaker 1: his game and say, well, DC Wilson played better in
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Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, Kyle Pitts is the best player to draft,
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Speaker 1: my take is nothing's changed. He was the best player
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Speaker 1: in the draft before the season began. He's the best
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Speaker 1: player in the draft when the season ended. He's the
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Speaker 1: best player in the draft two weeks out from the draft.
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Speaker 1: Is there anything anybody on our panel wants to know
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Speaker 1: about Trevor they don't already know? What's the first question
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Speaker 1: you're gonna ask him if you get an interview with
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Speaker 1: him about time? Right? Right? Probably my question to Trevor right,
17:46
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been waiting on this for a while. Uh,
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Speaker 1: is it everything you hope for him? More? And I'm
17:50
Speaker 1: sure he'll say, yeah, well, we don't know yet, but
17:53
Speaker 1: we're fired up to be here. I want to know
17:55
Speaker 1: if he sees the fit with Jacksonville. Southern boy right,
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Speaker 1: played at CLEMPS and again strong in his faith and
18:02
Speaker 1: this is a community that appreciates that just look at
18:05
Speaker 1: the affinity for Tim Tebow. I want to know if
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Speaker 1: he sees Jacksonville and if he saw Jacksonville early on
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Speaker 1: as a place where his personality and the things that
18:13
Speaker 1: are important to him fit. Yep. I want to ask
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Speaker 1: him when that whole Jets Jacks thing was going down,
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Speaker 1: how closely were you watching and everyone was saying, you're
18:21
Speaker 1: a big city guy, doesn't seem to be all right.
18:24
Speaker 1: I think he would be wherever he was and be
18:27
Speaker 1: just fine. He's that kind of guy, I think, but
18:30
Speaker 1: just you'll figure it out wherever you're selected. He I
18:34
Speaker 1: think he's a guy who could figure out how to
18:36
Speaker 1: manage it. He transcends this things right, no matter where
18:40
Speaker 1: he went, he was going to be fine. And I
18:44
Speaker 1: think a lot of it is to do with sports
18:46
Speaker 1: illustrated stuff. He Uh, he's gonna walk his own walk,
18:52
Speaker 1: it seems, no matter where he is. And I'm telling you,
18:56
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks before, the perspective on that is so key
18:59
Speaker 1: to them making it and it's it's important alright. Moving on,
19:03
Speaker 1: everybody asks and I'll ask, start, would you rather cover?
19:07
Speaker 1: And I chose sporting events that are here at this
19:09
Speaker 1: time of the year. The NBA Playoffs are about to begin.
19:12
Speaker 1: The Kentucky Derby kicks off the Triple Crown, and I've
19:15
Speaker 1: spent a little time around horse racing, or the NFL Draft,
19:18
Speaker 1: or the Masters for that matter, you know, all the
19:21
Speaker 1: sporting events that come in April and early May. Would
19:24
Speaker 1: you rather cover any of the other ones or the Draft,
19:29
Speaker 1: the NBA play host to me, see m Agrind, the
19:31
Speaker 1: best event I've ever covered is when I got a
19:36
Speaker 1: chance to cover the the University of Florida's run to
19:39
Speaker 1: the final four. And because there's something magical about an
19:44
Speaker 1: n C double a tournament run, especially if it's unexpected,
19:47
Speaker 1: and at the Gators that you would expect to do anything,
19:49
Speaker 1: it was, it was Lin Krueger, pre Billy Donovan, the
19:53
Speaker 1: energy around that. I don't think the NBA Playoffs, because
19:56
Speaker 1: it's the best of seven would match that. Uh So,
19:59
Speaker 1: within the context of this question, I'll say the Masters,
20:02
Speaker 1: because when I was at the uh the Time's Union forever,
20:06
Speaker 1: I kind of thought I might someday get a chance
20:08
Speaker 1: to cover that, and I kind of missed on it,
20:10
Speaker 1: And I think that would be cool. I would like
20:12
Speaker 1: and I think JP can speak to this. Wants to
20:14
Speaker 1: be in the Derby infield. I would necessarily like to
20:16
Speaker 1: cover it, but to be to see that once I
20:21
Speaker 1: may have missed my window and when I'd really enjoy that.
20:23
Speaker 1: But you can always go back, John, But that would
20:27
Speaker 1: be cool because I've heard it's just it's just and
20:30
Speaker 1: it's funny. I've never been to the Derby. I love
20:33
Speaker 1: watching horse racing. I'm not great at betting on horse racing.
20:38
Speaker 1: I've never really been around horse racing. It is a
20:40
Speaker 1: different environment, just the ownership, steaks and the people behind
20:45
Speaker 1: the scenes, and you kind of really have to be
20:48
Speaker 1: in the know there to get an idea of what's
20:51
Speaker 1: going on. I've never really been around it that much.
20:53
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go to that event. I have
20:55
Speaker 1: a collection of the jewelip classes. Asher actually brought me
20:58
Speaker 1: one back one year from the Derby that I have
21:00
Speaker 1: in my kitchen. I don't know why, but I've I've
21:02
Speaker 1: got a collection about twenty of these things. There's a
21:06
Speaker 1: big box that was delivered just to set up her story.
21:08
Speaker 1: A big box, really big box. I'm not sure to
21:11
Speaker 1: fit through the door without turning it up on its end.
21:13
Speaker 1: And I said to her, what is that? And she said,
21:16
Speaker 1: it's my hat. And I said your hat, right, Yes,
21:22
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Yes, I used t I a
21:25
Speaker 1: bank as my post office for a good math bound time.
21:28
Speaker 1: So yes, my hat was delivered here. And I will
21:30
Speaker 1: say it was a really, really cool event. But everyone
21:33
Speaker 1: told me, you go, you experience it. It's awesome, but
21:37
Speaker 1: you feel like you've done it and you don't need
21:39
Speaker 1: to do it again. And I think that would be
21:41
Speaker 1: the thing of covering it. You do what, you check
21:43
Speaker 1: it off your list. You don't feel like you need
21:45
Speaker 1: to cover every single year. Here's what I love about
21:47
Speaker 1: the draft. Um, it's thirty two teams. You focus on yours, obviously,
21:53
Speaker 1: but there's so many stories, so many individual stories. And
21:57
Speaker 1: because you're not dealing with horses, right, I mean you
22:00
Speaker 1: you're getting the story from them as they go through
22:03
Speaker 1: the draft process. I just like the humanity of the
22:06
Speaker 1: draft because it really is people putting themselves out there
22:09
Speaker 1: saying here's who I am, and now more than ever
22:11
Speaker 1: right with the personality inventories and all the community work
22:14
Speaker 1: and how they dig into people. Um, people put them
22:17
Speaker 1: out put themselves out there. I mean, if you've ever
22:19
Speaker 1: wear the kid that was you know, waiting to be
22:23
Speaker 1: picked to play kickball and we're taking last. You know
22:25
Speaker 1: how vulnerable that makes you feel? Me too? Um, I
22:31
Speaker 1: kind of like the humanity of people putting themselves out
22:34
Speaker 1: and saying where am I going? How many times have
22:36
Speaker 1: you have you seen in your career the guy who
22:39
Speaker 1: was in the green room and was there the next
22:41
Speaker 1: day and then was still there, Taylor, Remember that you
22:45
Speaker 1: just felt horrible sitting there with his family. There there
22:47
Speaker 1: were there were there were stronger cases of guys who
22:50
Speaker 1: are really supposed to be taken high that they're just
22:51
Speaker 1: still sitting there day two, right, And Miles Jacks Yah's
22:56
Speaker 1: that guy. So it's the drawing of it is what
23:01
Speaker 1: I really enjoy. You know, you mentioned the Masters, and
23:03
Speaker 1: that's when I left out. I've never been the Masters either,
23:06
Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, covering the very few
23:09
Speaker 1: times the TPC here, the Players Championship, like a lot
23:13
Speaker 1: of covering golf. You're sitting in the media center right here.
23:17
Speaker 1: You go out on the course some but you're still
23:18
Speaker 1: going back to right or going back to do what
23:21
Speaker 1: you do or go back to file report or whatever
23:23
Speaker 1: it is inside. So but now you know Augustin National's
23:27
Speaker 1: first class all the way around I want to understand,
23:28
Speaker 1: So that would be one to go and check off
23:31
Speaker 1: the list and go cover one time. Again, I've never
23:34
Speaker 1: really covered golf regularly, and it's one of those two John.
23:36
Speaker 1: You know this, like those guys that cover golf have
23:40
Speaker 1: cover golf for a long long time and they know
23:42
Speaker 1: how to get inside tracks to information and people and
23:46
Speaker 1: who you talk to and why and at what time,
23:48
Speaker 1: and if you're new to that, it's really tough to
23:50
Speaker 1: really crack into it. Yeah, cover eleven twelve. I don't
23:53
Speaker 1: have many players championships at the paper, and it's a
23:56
Speaker 1: different Uh, it is certainly a different sport to cover.
24:00
Speaker 1: And at the time I covered it, it was it
24:01
Speaker 1: was a little trickier than it is now, is my understanding,
24:04
Speaker 1: but it was, uh yeah, it's it's a lot about contacts. Alright, John,
24:09
Speaker 1: you're up next. This is a little bit of a
24:12
Speaker 1: sarcastic question, but I think there are answers to it.
24:15
Speaker 1: What's your most memorable offseason? O t a moment since
24:19
Speaker 1: covering the Jaguars, because we may not get that sort
24:22
Speaker 1: of moment this year. It's still sort of unknow whether
24:24
Speaker 1: we're gonna be on the field or not. Whether that's
24:27
Speaker 1: going to be a thing, But there are some. There
24:30
Speaker 1: are some, So, Brian, what's your first minute of the
24:34
Speaker 1: first O T A every year? Because like, all right,
24:37
Speaker 1: we're back to football and then it's like, okay, they're
24:40
Speaker 1: running around in shorts, and it's tough to be able
24:43
Speaker 1: to tell whether the offensive lineman or any good or
24:45
Speaker 1: whether the defensive lineman or you know, more explosive. You
24:49
Speaker 1: just can't tell. You can tell whether the quarterback has
24:51
Speaker 1: a sharp arm, right, and and who's gotten bigger. The
24:54
Speaker 1: first minute though, of the first o t every every
24:57
Speaker 1: year it's like we're back, football is back. Awesome him.
25:01
Speaker 1: Mine would be one of two things, Um, the rookie
25:05
Speaker 1: mini camp day when Blake Bortles was here. They were
25:08
Speaker 1: like eight thousand people here for practice, so the line
25:11
Speaker 1: was around the stadium and I don't think anybody saw
25:15
Speaker 1: that coming, so they had to put people on the
25:17
Speaker 1: side of the practice field and watch that. That was
25:20
Speaker 1: really really neat. The other might be the paintball trip
25:23
Speaker 1: in I'm kidding, of course, the number ten. Um, the
25:29
Speaker 1: team bonding didn't really work out that year. Yeah, it
25:33
Speaker 1: didn't work out. I'm gonna go offseason moments, I will
25:39
Speaker 1: always remember Nick Foles arriving here that day. That was
25:43
Speaker 1: when the helicopter. JP did a and Brian did a
25:46
Speaker 1: live recap of following the helicopter. And I don't think
25:50
Speaker 1: many people in football can put that on their resume
25:53
Speaker 1: that they have done that that was an insane day.
25:55
Speaker 1: We might not either, But for all that was, by
25:59
Speaker 1: the way, for all that was, this is bigger, so
26:03
Speaker 1: much bigger. I would go with because I asked the question, um,
26:09
Speaker 1: and it speaks a little bit to why this is
26:13
Speaker 1: an interesting topic with players not come in, and I
26:16
Speaker 1: know a big part of this is with COVID. There
26:20
Speaker 1: also seems to be an underpinning of players sort of
26:24
Speaker 1: pushing back on the off season in general. But I
26:26
Speaker 1: would go two things. JPS memories exactly right, the excitement
26:31
Speaker 1: that one of those things can have been the very
26:33
Speaker 1: next year, Dante Feller getting hurt on his first one.
26:37
Speaker 1: So there has been some memorable moments around here, and
26:39
Speaker 1: I think that sort of speaks to both a little
26:41
Speaker 1: bit of you know, this year, I have a hard
26:45
Speaker 1: time saying that there shouldn't be an off season because
26:49
Speaker 1: of how important it is to these guys getting on
26:52
Speaker 1: the field, getting on the same page Trevor Lawrence, etcetera.
26:55
Speaker 1: But I also kind of get from a player's perspective,
26:58
Speaker 1: you know, do we need to be putting ourselves at
27:01
Speaker 1: risk for this? Um? I personally think for young players,
27:06
Speaker 1: even such as Fowler back then, done correctly, the reward
27:10
Speaker 1: out of that is overall worth the risk for young players.
27:14
Speaker 1: But you know, I was standing right there with Dan Edwards,
27:18
Speaker 1: right in front of Fowler and he just had an
27:22
Speaker 1: arm out with contact with the tackle. I mean it
27:26
Speaker 1: wasn't he won't even planted. I mean, those things happen. Sure,
27:29
Speaker 1: they can happen in any walk of life. I can
27:32
Speaker 1: remember Tom McManus tearing his A c L and he
27:34
Speaker 1: was just running out to practice with the Buccaneers in Um.
27:39
Speaker 1: It wasn't even in a drill. I mean, those just
27:41
Speaker 1: doesn't just you can't do much about it. So alright, GP,
27:46
Speaker 1: you're next, I am next. How excited do you think
27:50
Speaker 1: Urban is to finally get to meet with the team
27:54
Speaker 1: as virtual as it is. We've been hearing about this
27:57
Speaker 1: all offseason. He's excited to get his message out there.
28:00
Speaker 1: We've heard part of the messaging. But now you can
28:03
Speaker 1: have virtual meetings, Ashlyn. I don't know if there's a
28:08
Speaker 1: rating scale or anything you can put a number on
28:12
Speaker 1: one to ten. What number is Urban? Right now? He's
28:15
Speaker 1: a seven, and I say he's some. I was living
28:17
Speaker 1: listening to the Michael Urban podcast which Urban Meyer was on.
28:21
Speaker 1: It was a very good listen. You guys should tune in.
28:23
Speaker 1: But he was taking notes and I think this was
28:25
Speaker 1: last Wednesday. He was on the podcast and he was
28:27
Speaker 1: taking notes of what he was going to say to
28:29
Speaker 1: the team today, and it was interesting to hear his
28:32
Speaker 1: input of how long he has worked on getting this
28:35
Speaker 1: first team meeting. The messaging crystal clear. But with that said,
28:39
Speaker 1: he was like, I would really like it to be
28:41
Speaker 1: in person, and instead it's going to be virtual. So
28:44
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go seven. He's excited, but not exactly what
28:47
Speaker 1: he wants, not fulfilled all the way. Yes, exactly right.
28:52
Speaker 1: The message is important and the speech is important. But
28:56
Speaker 1: every time I've listened or had a chance to talk
29:00
Speaker 1: too Urban about that, uh, the overwhelming feeling you get
29:06
Speaker 1: is that as important as that speeches, what he wants
29:11
Speaker 1: is for these guys to be together, for these guys
29:14
Speaker 1: to have the coaches walking down the hallway able to
29:18
Speaker 1: grab a guy and say hey, here's what we did.
29:21
Speaker 1: I think when he is talking about building culture, which
29:24
Speaker 1: he's talked about many many times, I think he's certainly
29:27
Speaker 1: talking about more than this one virtual meeting. He wants
29:30
Speaker 1: these guys together. So I think seven is exactly right. Ash.
29:33
Speaker 1: I don't think you can add anything to that other
29:35
Speaker 1: than to say, does anybody has anyone ever told him
29:37
Speaker 1: we have a podcast? We should tell him, Yeah, we
29:39
Speaker 1: might want to tell him that, just let him know.
29:43
Speaker 1: It was very cool because Michael Irvan was just sharing
29:45
Speaker 1: stories back and forth. It was like they were just
29:47
Speaker 1: having this conversation of the good old days. So it
29:50
Speaker 1: was a cool, cool listen, like to get him in here. Um, alright,
29:55
Speaker 1: wrap us up, all right? So last night I watched
29:58
Speaker 1: the Alex Smith Do coumentary on ESPN. I've never seen
30:02
Speaker 1: it before. It came out a couple of years ago,
30:03
Speaker 1: but I've never seen it. And in that Michael Urban podcast,
30:06
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer is very clear of why he wanted to
30:10
Speaker 1: bring Alex Smith in here. He said, I want him
30:12
Speaker 1: in a Jaguars uniform and things didn't work out, and
30:15
Speaker 1: Urban was saying, I didn't realize the extent of what
30:19
Speaker 1: Alex Smith went through until I watched this documentary and
30:22
Speaker 1: it was incredible. I've never seen anything like it. I
30:25
Speaker 1: knew the story, but when you see what his leg
30:28
Speaker 1: looked like in this documentary place, it puts things in
30:31
Speaker 1: a perspective. So my question is Alex Smith. It's obvious
30:35
Speaker 1: he wants to be a starter and go live this
30:38
Speaker 1: dream and and that's awesome. I think he should do that.
30:41
Speaker 1: Say two to three years, is Alex Smith ever in
30:44
Speaker 1: a Jaguars uniform? Jp um, because if the reasoning behind
30:50
Speaker 1: it that what we read this week, you know, the
30:53
Speaker 1: medical personnel said it's not right. Well he's gonna be
30:57
Speaker 1: how old and three years from now eight with a
31:01
Speaker 1: leg that's questionable, and now he's thirty six with a
31:03
Speaker 1: leg that's questionable. Um. If it's a no now, I
31:07
Speaker 1: think it's certainly a no two or three years from now.
31:10
Speaker 1: So I think that window, though it might have been
31:12
Speaker 1: open in this offseason and might have been a great
31:15
Speaker 1: person to have around, if he's in a uniform, I
31:18
Speaker 1: don't think he'll be here. Maybe it's another capacity if
31:21
Speaker 1: he decides to hang it up or whatever down the road.
31:23
Speaker 1: I don't know how that would work, but I don't
31:26
Speaker 1: think he'll ever be in a Jaguar uniform. No, I
31:28
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think now would be the time
31:29
Speaker 1: that you would you'd be able to close that deal.
31:32
Speaker 1: You know the age there. Uh and and obviously you
31:35
Speaker 1: hope he never has to play because you're bringing in
31:38
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Now would be the time if you're gonna
31:40
Speaker 1: do it, and if you don't feel like you can
31:42
Speaker 1: work within the bounds of a contract with his previous injury.
31:46
Speaker 1: I mean, the hard part for him was he had
31:47
Speaker 1: a contract with the Redskins, and the Redskins new everything
31:50
Speaker 1: about it. Um Now a lot of teams are going
31:54
Speaker 1: to look at the same medical stuff and say, I'm
31:56
Speaker 1: not sure we want to take on the risk of
31:58
Speaker 1: this being a problem that we have to deal with.
32:01
Speaker 1: No huge financial risk, I totally get that, and a
32:05
Speaker 1: huge risk of is he going to be available for
32:09
Speaker 1: what we sign him for? Because what you would want
32:11
Speaker 1: in a guy like this is if God forbid Trevor
32:16
Speaker 1: wasn't available for a certain amount of time. The reason
32:20
Speaker 1: you bring in Smith isn't just because a leadership, It's
32:23
Speaker 1: because you went him on the field and there would
32:26
Speaker 1: be the worry of cannon hold up as it gets.
32:29
Speaker 1: You know, it held up with the Skins let or
32:32
Speaker 1: the Washington football team last year because it was a
32:37
Speaker 1: short period of time. But there was always uncertainty about it.
32:39
Speaker 1: You know, do you bring in that risk? Uh. As
32:42
Speaker 1: much as it's a heartwarming story, there's still an element
32:46
Speaker 1: of the NFL where you have to be realistic, and
32:51
Speaker 1: realistically that's a tough ask. And by the way, he
32:53
Speaker 1: turns thirty seven on May seven, so here we go,
32:57
Speaker 1: happy early birthday. But my answer is still no tough crowd. Alright,
33:03
Speaker 1: but that means in three years he's forty, you know
33:05
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, that's what we're talking about. Fine,
33:08
Speaker 1: I guess there as I think was leaning towards Yes,
33:11
Speaker 1: I've got telling you after the documentary, I'm rooting for
33:14
Speaker 1: the guy. It was awesome. I think we all were
33:16
Speaker 1: because we like a story where he fought back everything.
33:18
Speaker 1: But it's just the business and it makes sense. I mean,
33:22
Speaker 1: it fits well. Also, she's saying two or three years
33:25
Speaker 1: down the road, I'm not sure. At that point, I
33:29
Speaker 1: don't know that the dynamic is Trevor Lawrence and veteran guy.
33:33
Speaker 1: The dynamic becomes Trevor Lawrence an affordable backup rookie guy.
33:38
Speaker 1: Does he need the veteran presence in two years? Does
33:40
Speaker 1: he need it now? Great question, we'll find out, all right,
33:44
Speaker 1: next week's draft week. Who Maybe we'll switch things up
33:47
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little mock draft like through the
33:49
Speaker 1: first round that will mock this mock Yeah, I mean
33:55
Speaker 1: it's every day. There is a new mock draft on
33:58
Speaker 1: every stinking of episode. It's unbelievable, and yet people's hunger
34:02
Speaker 1: for the event is so intense you can't back away from.
34:06
Speaker 1: You can track all those mock drafts on Jaguars dot com.
34:09
Speaker 1: John Oser as a mock draft tracker every week. That's me,
34:14
Speaker 1: and that's our show.