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Kardashian Wedding, Dave Chappelle's Attacker with Dax and Adam · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Hannah McDonald, Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: So much juicy stuff going on. Let's get into it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Kravis finally got married for the third time. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the first one was in Vegas. That wasn't a real wedding.
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  Speaker 1: The second one was in Santa Barbara. That was a
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  Speaker 1: real wedding. And so they were already married. And then
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  Speaker 1: they had the big Italian wedding. And Throughout the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: we got to see the family and all their outfits.
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  Speaker 1: It was sponsored by Dolce & Gabbana. Everybody wore everything Dolce.
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  Speaker 1: And that included the first night when they went on
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  Speaker 1: like a yacht trip. And then the rehearsal dinner, I think,
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  Speaker 1: or like, you know, a party like that. And that's
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  Speaker 1: when she was wearing this, the black dress. That was
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  Speaker 1: a short black dress with the veil. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I have that one. And then for the actual wedding...
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  Speaker 1: She wore the exact same type of short corset, like lingerie, white,
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  Speaker 1: like a virgin type of dress with a long, beautiful veil.
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  Speaker 1: And the theme was the Virgin Mary. So she had
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  Speaker 1: a big Virgin Mary veil on. And page six style
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  Speaker 1: is saying Kourtney Kardashian's wedding veil had a nod to
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  Speaker 1: Travis Barker's head tattoo. I did not realize that one
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  Speaker 1: of his tattoos was that of the... Virgin Mary holding
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  Speaker 1: the baby. So the altar, too, normally a Catholic altar
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  Speaker 1: has a crucifix. This was outside. It was not at
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  Speaker 1: a church in a beautiful setting, but all very Catholic.
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  Speaker 1: And instead of having a crucifix, it was a statue
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  Speaker 1: of Mary holding baby Jesus. So I guess he was Catholic.
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  Speaker 1: I know that Courtney went to Marymount, which is an
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  Speaker 1: all-girl Catholic high school. But it's just interesting that when
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  Speaker 1: then when it comes to the wedding, they're like, let's
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  Speaker 1: just go full old school Italian Dolce & Gabbana and
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  Speaker 1: like really get into the Catholic thing. All of them
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  Speaker 1: were wearing big cross necklaces. So I have it. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: here's his head tattoo, which is Mary. Very nice. Courtney
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  Speaker 1: went on the yacht in these high, high spiky boots,
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  Speaker 1: which is not yachting shoes. But, you know, she was
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  Speaker 1: posting all her good looks. Kim is blonde still from
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  Speaker 1: wearing Marilyn's dress. And she was wearing the black, and
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  Speaker 1: she was with North. And North was wearing, like, corsets
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  Speaker 1: over her clothes. Rain, however, really killed it. That's Kourtney's
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  Speaker 1: younger son. He looked so cute. For a long time,
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  Speaker 1: he had a man bun. He has cut his hair.
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  Speaker 1: He wore little, like, little boy shorts, dress shorts with
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  Speaker 1: a tux jacket and tie. He looked so cute. I've
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  Speaker 1: not seen any photos of Mason. Some people were concerned
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  Speaker 1: if Mason attended, we have not seen photos. Uh, Chris
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  Speaker 1: was there looking beautiful in like a blushy pink outfit, uh,
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  Speaker 1: at the wedding. Chloe wore this big, like Dolce, like,
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's Dolce & Gabbana, like hat thing. And
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  Speaker 1: I guess, um, Beyonce had worn something similar.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, a lot of criticism was about the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Kourtney wore this really short dress that was basically
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  Speaker 1: a bodysuit with like lace over it. So you could
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  Speaker 1: kind of see like the whole part of her thigh
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  Speaker 1: as well as it being a super small mini. I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I think she chose this wedding look.
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  Speaker 1: Because that is what Travis is into. They're super sexual together.
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  Speaker 1: He's always grabbing her. He was like that with Shanna Moakler, too.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's his lovely, which I think he's very affectionate.
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  Speaker 1: I saw a TikTok of him and Shanna Moakler getting
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  Speaker 1: their marriage license on Meet the Barkers. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: mean to be disrespectful in bringing up his former love,
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  Speaker 1: but we also have a million followers. hours of footage
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  Speaker 1: of Courtney with Scott Disick. So it's like they're both
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  Speaker 1: in the reality show world. You put everything and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to come back. And so people were like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: he acts just the way he did with Shanna as
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  Speaker 1: he did with Courtney. But some people, when they're in relationships,
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  Speaker 1: have a certain love language and his is super hands-on, PDA, affectionate.
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  Speaker 1: She seems to really like it. And I think because
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  Speaker 1: he's so sexual with her, I think that he was like,
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  Speaker 1: I love your legs. I love your body. I want
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  Speaker 1: to see that. And I think she wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: completely different than what Kim has done for her other
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  Speaker 1: weddings and what Khloe did for her wedding with Lamar.
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  Speaker 1: And she just wanted to make it her own. And
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  Speaker 1: I like the mini 60s look. It was pretty skimpy,
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  Speaker 1: but who cares? I mean, I thought it was cool.
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  Speaker 1: And I loved the long veil. I loved all the
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  Speaker 1: Catholic stuff. Oh, here is the black dress that she
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  Speaker 1: wore like the night before. with a black and blue veil,
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  Speaker 1: and it was a super cute outfit for Halloween. If
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  Speaker 1: you're going sexy goth bride Halloween, this would be one
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  Speaker 1: of those hot outfits where you're like, I can dress
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  Speaker 1: like a slut, it's Halloween. But this is what she
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  Speaker 1: wore for her rehearsal dinner. And then page six reminded
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  Speaker 1: us that Kim wore a very similar dress with, again,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is like, Mary is like basically killing
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  Speaker 1: it right now. Like she is so in right now,
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  Speaker 1: Virgin Mary. And so the Virgin Mary, again, emblem on
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the, so that was just very in look.
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  Speaker 1: Kylie was there with Stormi and she looked really pretty.
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  Speaker 1: So they all wore like vintage Dolce dresses throughout the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, people were It got some criticism. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people were just like, I'm happy for you. You
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  Speaker 1: look beautiful. I do think this is a beautiful location
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  Speaker 1: to get married. I, of course, had to get married
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  Speaker 1: in the church because otherwise it didn't count, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: with God, according to my parents. And it was an
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  Speaker 1: hour and a half long. And I still want to
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  Speaker 1: apologize for the people that had to sit through that
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  Speaker 1: hour and a half mass.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see. Oh, so Penelope was there, her daughter, and
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  Speaker 1: she looked really pretty. So I guess she was like
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  Speaker 1: a flower girl, bridesmaid. And so was his daughter, Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: And then this photo came up. This is from my family, Jeannie.
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  Speaker 1: And it was Courtney, her high school photo, which basically
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  Speaker 1: she looks exactly the same because at 43, she has
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  Speaker 1: a very youthful face and she hasn't had any work
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  Speaker 1: done or very little. So she looks like the same.
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  Speaker 1: And then Travis, that just looks like a it's like
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  Speaker 1: your average little skinny white kid with like long hair.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just kind of interesting. Like all these years later,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a million tattoos, shaved head, Madonna on the
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  Speaker 1: back or, you know, the real Madonna. That's not Madonna, Madonna, Madonna,
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  Speaker 1: like Virgin Mary, Madonna on the back of his head. And, and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there was just a time when they were
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  Speaker 1: just two dorks in the nineties, early nineties, or yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that would have been it. They would have graduated in
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  Speaker 1: the nineties, probably late eighties. Speaking of which Joe, um, Jojo, um,
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  Speaker 1: Jolie Fletcher. They did finally get married. I kind of
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  Speaker 1: feel bitchy because I saw another video and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: when are you guys going to get married? But I
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  Speaker 1: guess it had been postponed for two years. They got
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  Speaker 1: married this weekend too. And her wedding dress and everything
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  Speaker 1: was very traditional and actually really gorgeous.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Now let me just update you on the trial, the Amber,
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  Speaker 1: Johnny versus Amber trial. I'm reading all your comments by
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  Speaker 1: the way. Okay. And some people were so upset that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not 100% team Johnny. And they're like, you don't
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  Speaker 1: realize that Amber has been caught in this, in this lie.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say. I have not watched every
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  Speaker 1: second of the trial. I've watched a lot of it.
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  Speaker 1: I've read a lot about it. I'm very aware of it.
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  Speaker 1: I also am very well versed in defamation lawsuits, which
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  Speaker 1: that is what this is. It's not who's telling the
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  Speaker 1: truth and if there's going to be a mistrial. There's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be a mistrial for a civil defamation lawsuit.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get through it. And the jury, which
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize, I guess it's only seven people when
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  Speaker 1: it's a civil defamation. case, but they will decide who
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  Speaker 1: they believe is in the right and if anybody deserves
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  Speaker 1: any money. He's suing for 50. She's countersuing for 100 million.
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  Speaker 1: So this is what I think in general. I've told
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  Speaker 1: you what I think. I think that they will come
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  Speaker 1: to the conclusion that neither really gets anything. Maybe they'll
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  Speaker 1: side with Johnny, but he will only get a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of money. That is my prediction. That's what I'm
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  Speaker 1: sticking with. I don't think it's going to be this
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  Speaker 1: big windfall, and we all believe that Amber's lied about everything.
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  Speaker 1: I do believe that she's lied about some things, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that he's lied about some things. Or I
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  Speaker 1: think that being that he was a drug addict, alcoholic,
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  Speaker 1: using all different kinds of drugs, which he's admitted to
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  Speaker 1: for the last 30, 40 years, I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: well you can remember everything. You know, I remember reading, like,
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  Speaker 1: memoirs about people that were, like, full-on drug addicts. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm reading this thing, and it's like, and then after
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  Speaker 1: a four-day heroin binge, I did this. this, and this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you remember what you did after
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  Speaker 1: a four-day heroin binge? I'm just saying, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: very likable. And it's crazy. This one woman was in
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  Speaker 1: the courthouse today. The cameras weren't there, so they didn't
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  Speaker 1: get it. But there was like a little lull and
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  Speaker 1: the cameras were down and she stood up with her baby.
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  Speaker 1: She had a baby in the courtroom. She'd been waiting
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  Speaker 1: there since 1 a.m. with her baby to get her
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  Speaker 1: little wristband to be in the courtroom. And she yelled,
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  Speaker 1: I love you, Johnny. And he's like, she's like, this
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  Speaker 1: is this baby's yours. And they're like, OK, you're out
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  Speaker 1: of here. And later on, she's like, oh, my husband,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it'd be funny if I waited here all night,
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  Speaker 1: got in the courtroom and then said that he's the
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  Speaker 1: baby daddy. So there's some hardcore fans of Johnny Depp,
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  Speaker 1: and I get it. And some of you might be
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  Speaker 1: watching and listening to this and, like, annoyed that I'm
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  Speaker 1: not anything but 100% Johnny Depp is the greatest person
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  Speaker 1: that ever walked the earth. But I like really seeing
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  Speaker 1: both sides. That's why we have this system. That's why
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  Speaker 1: her people are talking as well. But, yes, has she
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  Speaker 1: said a lot of things? Has she said things where
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  Speaker 1: she's answering questions, where they're like– And then what did
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  Speaker 1: Johnny do? And then she's like, well, I would grab,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and she wouldn't even say, I mean, she
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  Speaker 1: would like start telling the story about his abuse, but
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  Speaker 1: using the word I, because we've listened to the audio.
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  Speaker 1: We know that she has verbally abused him and we
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  Speaker 1: know that she has physically hit him. She says that.
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  Speaker 1: So we know that that's the case. Is the jury
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  Speaker 1: going to sit back there after four or five weeks
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it's been and been like, look, this was
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  Speaker 1: an awful couple that hit each other and verbally abused
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  Speaker 1: each other. And was she hitting him back? Was she
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  Speaker 1: finally standing up for herself? Isn't it awful to ever be?
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  Speaker 1: I think most people have dealt with an addict of
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  Speaker 1: some sort in their life or an alcoholic or someone
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  Speaker 1: that's drank too much that And we've all been there
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  Speaker 1: and it's not fun being the spouse to that. But
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  Speaker 1: this is what's come since I've spoken less. Ellen Barkin,
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  Speaker 1: who was his girlfriend, she said she corrected herself. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't a romantic relationship. It was a sexual relationship.
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  Speaker 1: They were in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas together.
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  Speaker 1: And she's 10 years his senior. This is them, Ellen
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  Speaker 1: and Johnny in the 90s. They dated for a few
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  Speaker 1: months in the 90s. She did a testimony back in
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  Speaker 1: November of 2019, a deposition which they shared. And she
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  Speaker 1: said that he was always, he seemed like he was
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  Speaker 1: frequently drunk or high or had a joint or something.
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  Speaker 1: He did get angry about something. He was either fighting
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  Speaker 1: with an assistant or someone and he threw a wine
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  Speaker 1: bottle at towards her. I don't know if he meant
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  Speaker 1: to hit her, but he did throw a wine bottle.
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  Speaker 1: He threw a wine bottle. That's his thing. And it
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  Speaker 1: was red wine. You know, if someone was going to say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and Heather had a Chardonnay, you'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: that tracks. If you're like, and then Heather had a
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  Speaker 1: gin and tonic, you'd be like, I've never heard her
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  Speaker 1: mention gin before. Well, he always just drinking red wine.
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  Speaker 1: He has thrown wine bottles. Lots of people have said
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  Speaker 1: that he's thrown wine bottles. Well, third, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: the nineties with Ellen Barkin, he threw them then too.
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  Speaker 1: She also said that he was very jealous. He was
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  Speaker 1: always like, where are you going? What are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Who are you with? And she had a scratch on
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  Speaker 1: her back and he was convinced that scratch came from
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  Speaker 1: wild sex with somebody else. So he accused her of cheating.
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  Speaker 1: These are all things that track with what Amber has told,
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  Speaker 1: what Amber's friends have told about her relationship with Johnny.
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  Speaker 1: Just saying.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then Johnny's agent also was interviewed. This woman was
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  Speaker 1: his agent for 30 years. And she said he was
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  Speaker 1: frequently late on set, late for like hours. Yes, he'd
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  Speaker 1: be lovely to the crew and the crew all liked him.
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  Speaker 1: But when the crew had to wait for five hours
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  Speaker 1: for him to be on set, when his call time
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  Speaker 1: was five hours previous, then they didn't love him so much.
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  Speaker 1: People in Hollywood talk. And he was getting a reputation
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  Speaker 1: that he was difficult to work with. He couldn't remember
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  Speaker 1: his lines. Oftentimes when people, a psychiatrist spoke on this today,
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  Speaker 1: people that are using a lot, the next day their
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  Speaker 1: memory isn't as sharp. I mean, I know that sometimes
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  Speaker 1: if I'm a little hungover, I'm not as quick. So
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  Speaker 1: certainly someone who is in their 50s and abused for
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  Speaker 1: that much, they're not going to be as quick as
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  Speaker 1: he is right now. He's probably been sober this whole trial.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, I don't know, you guys probably know
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  Speaker 1: how long he's been sober, but I'm assuming, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is him at his best, what we've seen. So
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  Speaker 1: she said that already he was getting a bad reputation
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  Speaker 1: and he had to do the earpiece because he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: remember the lines. And she said, you're really hurting yourself
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  Speaker 1: in acting like this. He then fired her and that
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  Speaker 1: was it. So I saw the comments and people were like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe she's now speaking on behalf of the defense because
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  Speaker 1: he fired her. Well, 30 years in the business, she knows.
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  Speaker 1: She knows what she was up against in trying to
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  Speaker 1: get him jobs, and she tried to warn him with
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  Speaker 1: his behavior. He was older. Maybe it was becoming difficult
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  Speaker 1: to insure. He couldn't remember his lines. As people get older, men,
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  Speaker 1: especially women, but men, their parts aren't as abundant. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Amber also had an entertainment consultant that also went on
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  Speaker 1: the stand, and this woman, I don't really know what
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  Speaker 1: that means because I just read it. I didn't watch
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  Speaker 1: the testimony, but She said that they felt what she
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: was made aware of is that the character of Jack
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  Speaker 1: Sparrow had run its course. So they're setting the stage
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  Speaker 1: so that the jury goes back and says, this article
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  Speaker 1: that Amber wrote in which she did not name Johnny Depp,
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  Speaker 1: but it was pretty clear that people could figure out
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  Speaker 1: that she was saying, I'm a victim of domestic violence
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  Speaker 1: of this relationship. They figured out the years. But they're
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  Speaker 1: saying that is not what caused his career to go down. Therefore,
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  Speaker 1: we do not think that she should have to pay
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  Speaker 1: him money for that. Or we do believe that this
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  Speaker 1: is what caused it. So obviously her people are trying
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  Speaker 1: to make the jury believe that there's other reasons why
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  Speaker 1: these parts dried up for him. Also coming soon is
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  Speaker 1: going to be Kate Moss. Remember, she brought up Kate Moss,
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  Speaker 1: Amber did, in talking about, saying, oh, I heard that
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  Speaker 1: there was something where he pushed Kate Moss down the stairs.
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  Speaker 1: So Kate Moss is going to come, and his people
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  Speaker 1: are very excited about that because they, even though they
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  Speaker 1: trashed some hotel rooms together and stuff, that they have
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  Speaker 1: a great relationship. So therefore, she most likely will speak
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  Speaker 1: very highly of him and crush that story that Amber
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  Speaker 1: was trying to get out there when she was on
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  Speaker 1: the stand that he was, might've been abusive to Kate Moss.
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  Speaker 1: So she's coming on also a Warner brothers executive is
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  Speaker 1: going to, um, take the stand and he is going
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  Speaker 1: to be say that Aquaman, um, in which she's in,
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  Speaker 1: he's probably going to say, I read this, that he
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  Speaker 1: assumed that he'll say, no, um, You know, what we've
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  Speaker 1: heard about Amber and this whole big mess did not
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  Speaker 1: affect Hollywood in hiring her or Aquaman executives in hiring her.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: And we still think she's great. Well, of course, they're
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: going to say that because if they don't, it makes
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: them look bad. That's not fair that someone's personal life
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: could keep them from getting a job. So it's just
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: going to be a lot for the jury to really say,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: was this defamation? Did she have a right to say it?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: And if it was defamation, did it really affect his
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: career for $ 50 million? That is what it's handed. It's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: not how he really cut his finger. That's being talked
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: about again. He said she threw a bottle at him.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: It cut his finger like a guillotine. Then he went
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: to protect her and said, I cut it myself. They
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: spoke to the doctor. The doctor was on the stand.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: He said he came to me to fix his hand,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: and he said it got caught in the door jam,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: which is what he believes made the most sense. Of
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: those three scenarios, he said, a door jam, this is
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: what it looks like when it's in a door jam,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: but I can't say for sure how he got this.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: When he told me it, I believed it. I mean,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the hand injury is the biggest because that's the only
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: real physical abuse that he can say– happened at her
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: hands in which I was hurt. Now, we know that
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: she hit him, you know, because she said that. But
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: she's presenting all this stuff of bruises and things, which
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: people don't know if they're those exact days or the
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: next day. And all of that we've gone through before
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: has been definitely some holes and don't really add up.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: But does the jury believe that she that he was
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a victim of her, that he is a domestic violence victim?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Or do they just think they both hit each other,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: they both said shit about each other, and therefore because
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: they're both hitting each other, they're both victims of domestic
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: violence and they're both perpetrators of– and they're both the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: domestic violence attackers or whatever you would call it. Like
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: they're both. They're both victims and they are both guilty
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of it themselves. That's what I think. I think they're
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: both guilty of both. People are going to get so
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: mad at me. The pirates are going to come after me.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying like just imagine if you've been there
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: for six– six weeks and you have to make this decision.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: It's about the defamation, not which actor you like more
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: or not. Oh, Courtney Love also said, oh, Johnny Depp
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: is the greatest. In 1995, I OD'd somewhere and he
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: helped me. I don't really think that's the greatest story
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to get out there. You know, like another person who
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: frequently used drugs and alcohol happened to be hanging out
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: with Courtney Love and he saved Courtney Love and therefore
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: he's a sweetheart. I mean, I hope he would. If
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: you saw someone ODing, I mean... Are you just going
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: to step over them? I mean, especially if you know them. Anyway,
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• 21:06
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• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, update on the Dave Chappelle attacker. Couple things. They
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: realized that in December, he attacked his roommate with a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: knife and stabbed him. So they didn't know who did this,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: but once they arrested him for the Dave Chappelle thing,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: they realized, oh, this is the guy we were looking
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: for that stabbed this guy in like a transitional living house.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So He's also up for attempted murder. But now his
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: defense is completely different from what he said before. After
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: he jumped up on stage and attacked Dave Chappelle with
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: a fake gun and knife, Dave Chappelle said he spoke
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: to him a bit and he said, my grandmother is
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: so upset that her neighborhood in Brooklyn is being gentrified.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm here attacking you to bring eyes to this.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And he's like, well, I don't know what you want
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: me to do about that, but, you know, good luck.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: He gets arrested, right? That was his defense, that it
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: was that. Now he's saying, so now this will be
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: his defense, that he was triggered by Dave Chappelle's LGBTQ
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: jokes and jokes about, you know, and stories about his
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: interactions with a trans woman. And so he said, I
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: was triggered by that. I was also triggered by because
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I'm bisexual and I'm also triggered about his material about
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: homelessness because I was homeless at one time. And I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: have a five-year-old son. And also, his opener had a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: joke about a pedophile. And I was also a victim
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: of pedophilia. So it was all those jokes combined that
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: then triggered me to make me jump on stage and
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: use this fake gun with a knife on the end
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: of it. Okay, so you're a homeless person, but you
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: managed to get a ticket to um, like a really
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: good ticket at this event that is not, was not free.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And you didn't plan it because you didn't know what
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: kind of jokes he was going to say, but you just,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: in case he said jokes that triggered you, you had
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a gun with a, a fake gun with a knife
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: at the end. Um, anyway, I, I don't know if
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: this is his idea or his public defender's idea or
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: whatever to, say that now he attacked me because he's
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: triggered because of jokes. And being the way RDA is,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: it probably will work. And now anyone can attack any
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: comedian if you don't like the joke because you're triggered
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: and because you had a shitty childhood and because you're
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: not killing it in life today. And someone might have
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: joked about that. I mean, that is just insane. Brittany says,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: was off again on the Instagram. She's wearing her brown pumps.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: She is now talking. She's obviously listening to Juicy Scoop
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: because I said we don't hear her talk anymore. Well,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: she talked a lot. She did a whole other video,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: brought back her character, Sessions with Ashley, who is this
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: awful therapist that apparently she went to. Then she twirled around.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: She said, go to Six Flags. A lot of things
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: didn't make sense after the skit. But again, Britney fans,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I agree. This is her outlet. Let her be free.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: People are like, who's running this? No one's running it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: No one is running it. She's running it. She's free.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: She can do her own Instagram and it's going to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: be some nudes. It's going to be some cups of coffee.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: It's going to be photos of her brown pumps. It's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: going to be her spinning. It's going to be other
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: little viral videos that she finds. That's it. Then she
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: went to Vegas to Resort World, which was nice because
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: she said she never could have fun when she was
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: performing in Vegas. Someone treated her there. She took a
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: bunch of photos there. She was with Sam, and it
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: looked like she had a good time. So there you go.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Brittany. Oh, Ramona Singer. This was amazing.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Justin Anderson saw this on her story and posted it,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and a lot of other people have shared it since.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: But Ramona was at a wedding, and she's like, So
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I'm at a wedding, and I just met the most
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: beautiful girl. She's the sister of the bride. And I just,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I want to come over here. And she has the phone.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And she's like, can you just tell everybody what you
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: said to me? And the woman's like, well, I just
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: wanted to say that Ramona is such an inspiration and
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: really gets me through some hard times. You know what?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: It really means so much to me because I've always
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: known I was an inspiration. And don't believe everything you
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: see on TV. Exactly. Thanks so much. You know what?
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I know. I know I support women. I
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: know I inspire women. And here is one that's saying it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh my God. I mean, I don't mean
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: to toot my own horn, but if I shared every
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: time someone came up to me, you'd be like, well,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't because it's a moment between myself
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: and the listener or the fan. It's so Ramona. I
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: love it. I also love that she recently did a
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: post about Jill Zarin's rug and she said, I love
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: it because if my dog makes a mess or if
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I make a mess on the rug. And we all
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: thought that was really funny because we've all seen the
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: episodes where she actually has like, like shit or shit
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: herself and it's like fallen. So, but I think she
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: meant like if she spilled some wine or something, then like,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think she meant that kind of like Amber
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: turd mess. I think she just meant like, anyway, she's
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: never changing. That's the good news. You guys, Ramona is
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: never changing and we will have so many more moments
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: like this to look forward to. Real Housewives of Beverly
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Hills is on, and oh my God, there's lots of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: gossip going on. Sutton and Lisa Rinna got into it
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: over the Elton John thing. I still don't know if
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Sutton bought the tickets. I believe Lisa Rinna has never
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: paid for a ticket to Elton John. I believe that
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: she always got to go as his guest, as a celebrity,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: who then would post and share and talk about the charity.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Sutton was not a celebrity. She always bought a ticket.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Sutton invited Lisa to sit at her table and therefore
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: paid for a ticket. That's all the truth, and I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: don't really understand the controversy. But now Lisa Renna is,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: according to Bravo Snark, someone has gotten some DMs from her,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and she has been sharing all this stuff about why
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: she is not getting along with Kathy Hilton. It explains
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: why Kathy Hilton wasn't on a lot of the season. Anyway,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: it's all adding to wanting to watch it a lot. Again,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: people are talking about it is Dorit. You know, people
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: are just thinking about Dorit's robbery because it showed up
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: late last week, the police report. And in the police report,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: it did not mention that these robbers or burglars were armed.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I talked to an LAPD officer that I know, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I asked about that. And he said, sometimes in these things,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: they just didn't include it, not for any particular reason.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: They may have forgotten. But chances are they didn't. that
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: people that are breaking into homes, 99% of the time
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: they are armed and they're very hard to catch these
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: people and they usually don't catch them until someone gets
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: caught for something else and flips or they get caught
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: for another crime and then they match the DNA and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: find it. So that is why these people haven't been caught. Again,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I'm still going to say I do not think Dorit
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: or PK made up this robbery. I think Dorit There's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: things that don't make sense, but also being robbed at
• 29:29
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  Speaker 1: And now for a very juicy... juicy interview I did.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot of Juicy Scoop history. I am talking
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• 30:07
  Speaker 1: started their own very popular show, Hollywood Raw. So please
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: welcome Dax and Adam from Hollywood Raw. Well, people are
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  Speaker 1: learn more. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I've got
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the behind the Hollywood juice from the podcast Hollywood Raw.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I have Dax Holt, Adam Glenn. Am I saying it right?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: You're saying it right.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: And you've got cute dimples. Nice to see you again.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I know you guys have done your show
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: and we just want to get into some like Juicy
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Scoop history. You guys are... Tell us about your background
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: because you are still... a paparazzi person.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I call myself a street journalist and it's honestly same
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: thing as a paparazzi, but like you said, sexy, but
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: it's just way too, the word paparazzi is just not
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: the most prettiest term. So I call myself a journalist
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: because I don't feel like a paparazzi for the stuff
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I do for the content I get. I'm trying to
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: get sound bites, but it's more of like not much dirt.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: It's more of like trying to have a fun conversation.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: For example, like, as you know, if I reached out
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: to oprah's people if i reached out to uh adam
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: sandler's people if i reached out to brad pitt's people
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: and said hey i want to interview them as you
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: know the first person picking up the phone would say
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: sorry we're not interested click and hang up the phone
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: but i realized if i get to them if i
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: find them they will talk to me and that's what
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: i do is i run around new york city i'm
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: based in new york city and i run around trying
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: to cross paths with celebrities and once i do i
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: try to have a fun engaging interview and then what
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: i do is i monetize it by licensing it to
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: different media outlets around the world Okay.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: So you're just like you're independent.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I'm independent for sure. You're not with TMZ. I'm not
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: with TMZ. I was with TMZ. So my backstory, I
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: was with TMZ for years. I'm a stand-up comic. Went
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: to school for PR. Couldn't get a job anywhere. Went
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: back to school. Got my teaching certification. Couldn't get a
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: job anywhere. And then in 2009, I did a show
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: in New York City as a stand-up comic. Someone in
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: the crowd said, you seem funny, not threatening. You know
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: pop culture. Would you be interested in a job at TMZ?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: I said, listen, I'll do anything for health insurance. The
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: next day, pretty much, they introduced me to someone. Got
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: a job with TMZ and they threw a camera in
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: my hand. They said, let's see what you could do.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: They gave me a two-week contract. In two weeks, I
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: had two interviews. I didn't get arrested. And then they
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: offered me a three-year contract. And then that's been– I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: started with TMZ, worked there for over seven years. And
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: now I'm on my own running around the streets of
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: New York City doing celebrity interviews.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: And when did you and Dax fall in love?
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: Let's see. When did we fall in love?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: No. So I would say we both kind of left TMZ.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Let me clarify. You guys are not a couple.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: No.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: No. I mean we would be a cute couple. Don't
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: get me wrong.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah. No. No.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: We both left TMZ kind of around the same time,
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: maybe a year apart or so. We didn't even really
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: talk when we were at TMZ. We weren't friends. We
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: just kind of knew of each other. And then afterwards,
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: you know, this podcast opportunity came up and we decided,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: you know what? We're both good. We like to talk.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: We like to talk. We got good stories. Let's join
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: forces and make this podcast. And that's kind of honestly
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: when we started. Now we talk five times a day.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, we have different backgrounds. Dax's role at
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: TMZ was to you know, go through all the photography agencies,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: all the paparazzi agencies, see the photos before they get
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: to the public. So he had basically determined as the
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: photo editor.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: It was the most voyeuristic job you could ever imagine,
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: constantly going through all these websites. I mean, you're seeing
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: every photo that people would like to see before they're edited,
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: before they're blurred, before they're black barred, everything. I have
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: a question.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Being that Lisa Renna is being sued for like a
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: million something money because she apparently threw up a photo
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: of herself.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: That was taken by someone else on Instagram, which, um,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I kind of this, you know, I, I want to
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: know the rules for people like me and other people. What, what,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I think people, I don't think that was
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: an intent where she was trying to screw over this photographer,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: but like, if something like that happens and you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: and there's like, before it gets to a lawsuit thing,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: what is the person supposed to do? Find that photographer
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: and immediately be like, What do I need to do
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to buy this?
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: My suggestion, especially if it's a big celeb, find out
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: who took it, whatever agency it's from, and tag the agency.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: You're more likely to not get in trouble if you
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: tag the agency, give them some kind of credit, give
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: them a photo credit tag, whatever it is. I'm not
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: saying that's right, but I'm saying you're less likely to
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: get a lawsuit because you've got to realize that is
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: their business. Their business is to make money off photographs.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: So if they see their photo come up and they
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: know that you didn't license, you didn't talk to them,
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: They're most likely going to come after you to get money.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: And it might be some crazy amount because they know
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: they're not going to get that amount. They're going to
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: get something less.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's say you go on the red carpet
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: doing something. And the next day I go to Getty
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: and I look up Heather McDonald and I'm like, I
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: really like this photo. And it's like, whatever, $ 450. But
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: wouldn't I have to, the proper thing to do is
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: to buy that photo for $ 450 so I own it.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: You license it technically. You don't even own it. You're
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: licensing it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: So I license it and then I can put it
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: on my Instagram.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Or if you want to just try to be nice
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: and try to play cool with the photographer, usually the
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: photographer's name is below. Reach out to them. Say, hey, listen,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: would you mind if I use this photo? I'll tag you.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I mean celebrities will reach out to photographers, paparazzi all
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: the time and say, hey, listen, would you mind if
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I post this photo? I'll tag you. majority of photographers
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: will say, yeah, that's cool, thanks, because they don't mind.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: They appreciate you actually.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Asking rather than taking.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Because if you just put the photo on Instagram, then
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: an outlet could take that photo from Instagram and say, hey,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: we just got it from Instagram. It's sort of like,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: do you understand?
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: You're working the system and you'll notice like.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: But also, it's like, you're not supposed to have the
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Getty image watermark, right?
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: No. You're technically stealing the photo.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: But, like, you'll notice, like, the Kardashians, they used to
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: steal all the time, put up these photos, and they'd
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: be like, well, what the heck? This is my image
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: that you're using to make money. I should be able
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: to post my own image. It, unfortunately, doesn't work that way.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: And so they got in trouble enough that now you'll
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: notice they tag, they credit, they got slapped on the wrist,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: and they'll give the little credits.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Someone just DMed me and was like, have you noticed
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that now Kylie is only using her own photographers. She's
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: bringing her photographers everywhere. I mean, I don't think she
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: could control the Met Ball steps, but, like, she... I
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: think that's why she didn't go to... This is what
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: this person said. That's why she didn't go to the
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Hulu premiere. Like, she, I think, wants to have a little...
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: have more control, I guess.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot of big stars that will have
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: their own photographer that follows them around, takes pictures, and
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: they will then give those photos to the agencies. Oh, okay.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: And so... Technically, they own the rights to them, but
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: then they can still be distributed out throughout all the websites,
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: the magazines, and they control the narrative.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: They can also make sure the photo looks good. They
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: can filter a little bit.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Airbrush some of the stuff.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah. But actually, as photographers, coming from the photographer's
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: point of view, they hope that a brand takes their
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: photo without letting them know because that actually is more money.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: There's companies like Ocularity and lawyers type things that they
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: look online for people who use their content without their permission.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: And they hope that a brand takes their photo without
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: asking them because then I can actually charge them double
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: and make more money than that. So it's a wild thing.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: But that's just what it's come down to now with
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: social media and the photos getting out there. All right.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about some of the juicy
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: interviews that you've done. I remember hearing that one with Larsa.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: That was a good interview.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I was super intrigued. It was before we saw Larsa
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Pippen on The Return of Real Housewives of Miami, which
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I watched. And as we know, Larsa was just, you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: best friends with Kim for many years. And it was always, like,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I felt like the internet was, like, also, like, people
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: involved in this world would be like, ugh, stop trying
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: to make Larsa happen. Like, people were almost annoyed how
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: much she was always just, like, peripherally with the girls
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And so, but it was sort of interesting to...
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: To hear her side. And so I know what my
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: opinion was after hearing it. But why don't you guys
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: tell me what you thought as you were talking to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: her as far as like what happened with the friendship?
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I think first off, like Larsa Pippen's like was
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: before the interview was like an illusion to me. You
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: saw her photos all over online. You saw her on
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Daily Mail pretty much every day. But I don't think
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I ever heard her voice. I was like, what's this
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: girl's deal? I don't know what's going on. And then
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: when we reached out to do the interview, she was
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: honestly on time, which you always respect, appreciate. And also
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: super chill. Like, so cool.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: So relaxed.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: So nice.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: So down to earth.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: We made her move her camera around her house because
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: there was no light. And we're like, can you move here? No,
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: we can't here. It's too echoey. Your house is too big. Okay,
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: move to this other room. she was so cool and
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: I didn't expect that from her at all.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: And how did you guys get the interview and why
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: do you think she decided to talk to you guys?
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: That's a good question.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: We had a mutual friend that kind of was our intermediary.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Can we say who it was? Do you think they care? Shiraz.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Do you know who Shiraz is? You ever see that
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: guy who drives around LA and he's got the fame
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: truck all around?
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: No.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a fun person.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Sounds like a person who'd be kind of messing with
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: that circle.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: He's awesome and he was the one that put us
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: in contact and She said, okay. And so we sat
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: down and had this amazing conversation. It was probably our
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: first interview where someone really opened up and got us, like,
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: wild press. I don't think I'd ever seen so much
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: press on a podcast before that. And, you know, she
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: dove into Kanye West and saying how he brainwashed the
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Kardashians against her. She said that I couldn't believe she
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: was going against the Kardashians, essentially. And that's what made
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: that such a big interview.
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: I mean, I.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: From everything I gathered, it's like I think that she
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: was in one of those situations where her best friend, Kim,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: was really sharing everything with her. And, like, Kanye realized
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Kim was slipping away. And then Kanye was contacting her.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: And she was sort of in the middle. And then.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Cut out?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then it's almost like– which is why it's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: so hard when you're in that position with your girlfriend
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: and her spouse. And we've all– girls have all been there.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Because it's like you might– you're hearing your friend cry
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and everything and your advice might be like get out,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: get out. And then they stay in it and they're
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: like embarrassed that they're still with this person that they,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: you know– Vented about and everything. And so they'd rather
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: not even see the friend that was consoling them all
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: that time. And so then I think also what happened
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: was then he was grasping at, at her to see
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: if like sometimes how he could get in her brain
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: to like have her convince. Like, I think it was
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: just a messy thing like that. I don't think like
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Kanye was, Ever trying to sleep with her or vice versa. Like,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was like that.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: She never made it sound like that.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: She made it sound like they had a good friendship.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Her and Kanye is who I'm referring to had a
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: good friendship.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: And that he would talk to her about their dramas
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: and this and that. And I agree with you. I
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: think that it got nasty and Kanye looked at Kim
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: and said, you need to get rid of her. She's
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: the weak link. Not us. Not how our relationship is doing.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Get Larsa out. And I am curious if Larsa and
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Kim will reconnect now that Kanye is out of the picture.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you know, Chris was– she's had close
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: friends and not been friends with them. And then like
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Faye Resnick, for example. Like they were super close during
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: the OJ tragedy. And then there was a chunk of
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: time when they weren't. And then now they are again.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: So it's like I definitely think they're very forgiving. But
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I also think they don't really need friends. Mm-hmm. The
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: girls don't need friends. They have sisters. And so when
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: something happens like with Jordan Woods, is that her name? Yeah,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Jordan Woods.
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: I was talking about it and I kept talking about
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: saying Jordan Sparks and people were like, what are you
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: talking about?
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: So with Jordan Woods, she and Kylie were best friends.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: But when that whole thing got awful messy with Tristan
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and everything, the friendship ended and I just think like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: okay like kylie was like so mature about it she
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: was just like yeah i think maybe we're like a
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: little too codependent talking maybe it'll be you know it's
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: okay like let's just and she moved on and found
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: another best friend that now stassi or whatever yeah but
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the in the end she doesn't need anybody like you
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: always have a sister to hang out with yeah and
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: i think that's where like if you're close with them
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: or an employee of theirs you just have to know
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: you're not Blood is always going to be thicker than water.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: That's like the theme of the show. That is the show.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Sisters over everything.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you just, you know, and it doesn't
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: mean that they don't wish you well or whatever, but
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: it's like, people always want to think it's like so
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: sinister if they cut someone out. And it's like, well,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: we were this, sometimes when you're so close, you can't
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: then step back and be like, well, instead of talking
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: four times a day, let's keep our friendship, but only
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: have lunch once a month. It just doesn't work like that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: It's like, just because it's a platonic friendship isn't, Just
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: like a romantic one. You sometimes just can't be in
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: touch with, you know.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: How do you stay friends with them? I mean, how
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: do you have a long relationship? Like Lala. Lala Anthony
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: has been friends with, you know, Kim for years. And
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's a good friendship. Lala was just
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: on the red carpet.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I think she is friends with a lot of famous people.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: And I think she handles it really, really well. And
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I think she never oversteps the line.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: There's a line now.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I think she has her own path. I don't think
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: she would want to be the BFF anymore. And it's
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: like a perfect thing. And I don't think they talk
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: 12 times a day.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: And if you're not looking for the fame, that's a
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: big thing too. Lala's got her own fame. She doesn't
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: need to be a part of the Kardashian fame. She's
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: got her own thing going. And I think that's the difference.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: When you're there and you're on the peripheral, as you
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: said before, there's going to be a point where they go,
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: we don't need all these Klingons. We're going to move on.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: And I did kind of feel for Larsa in it
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: too because I'm like, Yeah, to the people at home,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: it looked like you were, you know, a thirsty girl
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: that sounded just like her and spoke just like her.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: But she still had four kids. That was still always
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: going to be her priority. But it did kind of
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: be like, God, why were you on the show so much?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: And weren't you living in Miami? Like, how the hell
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: did this? Like, it did seem like she dedicated a
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: lot of her life to that friendship because Kim is
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: who Kim is.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Do you think?
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Which was bothering Kim was her getting photographed all the
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: time and her reaching out to the paparazzi and setting
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: up shots, like being seen all over Daily Mail because
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: she was, besides the sex tape, going down the same
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: route as Kim Kardashian to become famous and become a figure.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think with some of it is,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: like I always remember there was like an assistant or
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: something of Kim's and it was like how to be
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Kim's assistant and she was a girl that you saw
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: on the show and she had a lot of style
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and started to get her own following and everything and
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: she did this big interview in some magazine. And, um,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: and then shortly after that, the, the relationship ended professionally,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: but now I think she kind of came back in
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the fold at a certain point, but it was sort
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: of like, she probably approved that interview, Kim, but then
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: the interview was too much like this person's now their
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: own thing. Yet the whole interview is about me. And
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I think she probably was like, yeah, go for it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: And then when she sat back, she was like, you
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: know what? I'm not comfortable with this anymore.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: I got to say, I liked Larsa so much more
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: after this interview.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: She's cool.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: She was awesome. She was just so honest and open.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: And I loved every second of it. And I think
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: that she gained a lot of respect from people after it.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, she was really good on the Miami show.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: And they were coming after her, always trying to get
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: her to talk about the Kardashians. They're like, did you
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: sign an NDA or something? I don't know if she did,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: but she doesn't want to get shit. She doesn't want
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: to say the wrong thing. She'd be put in like
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: a position where the cameras were there and she'd literally
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: have to leave because the girls were so relentless, which
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they were being pushed by the producers, to
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: get her to talk about them. And she knew like,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: you know, and that's happened to me too. Like when
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I was like hanging out with them a lot, I'd
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: be so excited because I'd have my book out and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: this and that and I'd be rarely on the red carpet.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: When I would, like an okay magazine would be like, So,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: my gosh, Heather, it's so exciting. You know, you have
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: your book out and da-da-da-da, like that. And then they'd, like, ask, like,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: one thing, like, and then, oh, and you, you know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: you're out with the Kardashians, da-da-da. And then I'd, like,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: answer that. And then that would be the whole interview.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: And then I always felt like to them it looks like, oh,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I'm using them for press. Yeah. But the reporter kind
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: of tricks you. Into, you know, they make it feel
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: like it's about you and you're all like, and I'm
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: sure they did that to Larsa all the time. And
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: then God forbid you slip and speak too much. Now
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: they're pissed. And you're like, but I was, Speaking so
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: highly of you. Like, I wasn't even saying a bad thing. Yeah.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: And that's why, like, then later on, once I learned,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, people would be like, and is there
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: anything we can't ask you? And I'd be like, yeah,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: don't ask me about Chelsea and don't ask me about
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: the Kardashians. Because, like.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: It doesn't go well for me.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then all of a sudden I look like the chasing, like,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: thirsty person when it's just like. And I think that
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: would be my advice to people. Like Larsa and stuff. Like,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: just put it out there when you do the interviews.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Just say, yeah.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: When you were close with the Kardashian clan, did you
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: have to sign an NDA at all to become friends
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: with them? Or when you went into the house, no NDA?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Never any NDA ever.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: That would get weird, I guess.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: But it was a long time ago. Like, we both started, like,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Chelsea was on, we were on E! first, and I
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: was hired to be a writer on the show and
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: appear on it. And then their show started maybe, like,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: five months after our show started. But I was just
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: friendly with them anyway. So I was, like, going to
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Mother's Day and, like, you know, like at their house
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: and like, we were just like friends and I just
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: thought they were like so fun. And I was kind
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: of in between the ages of, of Chris and Kim
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: and Courtney. So it was like, I was kind of
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: friends with like all of them and it was just, yeah.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: And so then and then the shows happened and like
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: we would, they would always come on our show and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: we were always doing E things and upfronts and parties
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And then, yeah. And then times
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: pass and you're not seeing each other at, in a
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: work environment. And it's like, it's all good.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Do you like what we just said to you?
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: We got you to talk about Chelsea and the Kardashians.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: That's our voodoo magic right there.
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: But it's all good. But I like not being as
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: close to them because they are in the news so much.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: And I do like giving my honest opinion and analyzing it.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Because like what we just said, I like taking pop
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: culture stuff like that, like a Larsa friendship breakup with Kim.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: But then putting it to a place that anyone at
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: home can relate to. Like any married woman or anybody
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: in a serious relationship has been there where they've either
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: been the girlfriend that knew too much or you shared
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: too much. And then your friendships suffer because of it.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I will say this about the Kardashians, especially doing what
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: we all do. From my experiences, from your experiences, people
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: always ask me when I tell them what I do, like,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: have you ever met the Kardashians? And I'll say this.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: From my experience at least, they're one of the best celebrities.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: They handle it very well. They're good to the photographers.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: They're good to the fans. In my opinion, they're great.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: People are like, no, Kim's awesome.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: They're good people.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: I talk shit about people, but Kim's actually a good person.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: She's genuinely cool. She's chill. They're fun. They're great people.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: We cover them a lot. We've had the bodyguard, Kim's
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: and Kanye's bodyguard on. We've had Larissa on.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: And what was the scoop on the bodyguard?
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, the bodyguard was good. The bodyguard was there.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Now, is this the bodyguard that they... there was like
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: some controversy they were going after.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes. He was like, he's an actor now, but
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: he talked about when he like first came into the scene,
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: he didn't know much about like what, you know, was
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: the deal with Kanye and Kanye was just kind of
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: being an asshole to him and would get in the
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: elevator day one and be like, push the button. He's like,
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: I don't know what floor we're going to. He's like, well,
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: why didn't you figure out before you got in here?
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: He's like, I literally just met you four seconds ago.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: So there was a lot of, like, just these little
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: stories about a glimpse into what Kanye's really like behind
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: the scenes. And having to pick Kanye up off the
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: side of the freeway at 2 in the morning because
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: Kanye decided to have a meltdown and go out for
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: a walk. And so now this guy, his job is
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: to go find Kanye in the middle of the night
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: in New York. I mean, there was just story after
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: story where you saw the real side of Kanye, and
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: I think that's why that episode.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: And what is your opinion, knowing all that you know?
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, of just Kanye in general?
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Of Kanye in general.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: I think he just has a really big personality. I
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: think he's a hard person to deal with. I think
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: he's a huge artist. And I think sometimes you get
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: into these artists where they're all about themselves. And I
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: think that's what Kanye is. I think he's all about.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Himself and his persona. I remember covering Kanye when he
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: was in New York and he was doing the Fashion
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Week and he was performing at the Garden. It was
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: all week. And like you said, it sounds weird. Like
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of musicians out there. There's a lot
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: of– I hate to call some of these music acts artists.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: But I actually do feel like he's an artist because
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: he does work very hard on it. So when he
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: had the fashion week, he was going to the gym
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: around like 10 in the morning or 8.30 in the
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: morning every day. He'd go to the gym in Equinox
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: in Soho and he would go there for about an
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: hour and a half. And then after that, he would
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: go to an office in Soho, work on the fashion
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: week until about 8 p.m. at night. Then at 8 p.m.,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: race over to the Garden and then perform for a
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: sold-out show at the Garden. And then did it like
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: three nights in a row. I was like, this guy's
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: working his ass off. And I was like, I mean,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: is he insane? Yeah, he's insane. But he does work hard.
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: He's a hard worker. We all know that he has
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: his own mental issues that he deals with. And I
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: don't want to downplay any of that. Sure. Best stuff
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: is obviously very important. But I think that he's a
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: hard personality to deal with on the outside of it.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: For anyone around him.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Not a bad guy, though, from my experience. Listen, again,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I like to talk shit. But he's actually like he's
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: from all the rappers I've been around. A lot of
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: rappers have big entourages. Kanye's usually just him, sometimes with
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: a bodyguard. Sometimes he's just him in a Mercedes car
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: in the backseat, just jumps out.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: He did used to get mad at that same bodyguard
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: because the bodyguard would be in between him and the paparazzi.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: He was like, get out of the way. They need
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: their photos. I need them to get their photos so
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: that I can be on the magazines.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Did you see what he did that about when he
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: was with Julia Fox for a minute? And everyone was like,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: what is this? And someone caught the fact that he
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: was like, get out of the shot. I need to
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: get my– this is my moment. I'm coming to meet
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: my girl.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: What did you think of that whole weird thing?
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: That was weird. I mean that was just a rebuttal, right,
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: to Kim and Pete. That's all that was, was I
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: need to make sure that I'm not looking like the
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: loser in this situation. We're separating. She's now seen off
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: with her SNL boyfriend, and I don't want to look
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: like the loser. So I'm going to find someone and
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: mold her and get everyone to talk about it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: He also put that out himself because that photo– I
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: was in Miami. I was actually the first one on
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: the scene– I was in Miami for a month and
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: it was Carbone right before New Year's roughly. And I
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: got a tip that Kanye was there. If you walk
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: into Carbone in Miami, we all know a lot of
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: celebrities go to Carbone. It's brand new in Miami. There's
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: the regular people on the right. There's a bar as
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: soon as you walk in and after the bar is
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: a private room. I walked in and there's a bodyguard
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: in front of like the door. So we all knew
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: that Kanye was in there. One other photographer showed up
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: outside and it's me and the other photographer. I'm like,
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: did you get him going in?
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: No.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Okay. And we saw the car, Kanye's car. The guy said, yeah,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: I'm picking up Kanye. So all of a sudden when
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Kanye is going to come out, he comes– the car
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: goes to the back of the restaurant. So I race
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: to the back of the restaurant, me and the photographer.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Kanye's photographer comes out. It's two of you. Guys, we're
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: not going to do shots tonight. I got the shot.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, we're here too. Like we're working. Like
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: we want to get the shot. Come on, guys. I'm
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: going to get the shot. He's like, all right. Know what?
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Stay right here. What they do? They sneak him out
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: back out the front. But all of a sudden the
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: photo gets released exclusively to TMZ. They get the photo
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: and they knew who she was. How does a photo
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: of them like– showing her face and they knew who
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: that is. Like, Oh, that's Julia Fox. Like they just
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: knew who she was right away. And he was with
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: the photographer. Like they placed it out. She, I mean,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I clearly, he.
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: Wanted, he wanted the press.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: He wanted the press.
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: We are not against working with paparazzi. We're not against
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: working with the media. By all means, do your thing.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: Keep the narrative going. I think it works for everyone involved, right?
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: Like I'm not against it.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: And I had some connections to Julia and I reached
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: out just out of curiosity. Hey, did you guys, and
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: she was like, yeah, that's what we did. We leaked
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: the photo. The funny part about that thing, about that
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: night was– so Pete and Kim were in town for
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: New Year's Eve. And I reached out to someone who
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: I know in the Kim camp and I said, hey,
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: just a heads up. Carbone is the hottest restaurant. Kanye
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: is here right now with a girl– like with some people.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Don't come to Carbone. Like it's going to be– you
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: think God like me would want to see that kind
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: of clash. However, I'm trying to get in with these people.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: I want to give them the heads up saying like,
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: So– and they said actually we're ordering food from Carbone.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: So they had their bodyguard pick up– Kim and Pete
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: sent a bodyguard to pick up food from Carbone. But
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: can you imagine if they all came and saw it?
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: I mean that would have been an amazing night.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: You ruined it for the rest of us. I know.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: But, dude, and I thought it would maybe help me out.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: But it didn't do shit.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know what I was thinking of how she
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: said how she didn't eat food for whatever, any carbs
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: for three weeks or whatever.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: Helping us dress for the Met Gala.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Yes. But then I realized– Wasn't it three weeks ago?
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was longer. That she was in the gray
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: dress at the Hulu thing. And then they went to
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: the Johnny and Vinny's and they had those Diet Coke photos.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Well, I guess she didn't eat
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: any of that pizza.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: No.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: She just stared at it.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: Stared at it drooling.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Just drank the Diet Coke.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I was watching. I follow an Instagram account called House
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: of Habit. And she's like hardcore covering the Johnny Depp trial.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: And she was noticing that, like, the new, her new
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: PR person was, like, she, like, zoomed in on him, like,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: talking to the court photographer, then handing these notes to
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the lawyer. Like, it's interesting how that even works in
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: a court of law, like, to get, because she's been
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: getting such, the crowd is not for Amber Heard.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, not at all.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: We have one of our friends that has actually been
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: going to court. We keep having her come on. Her
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: name's Danielle. She's been going to the court, and so
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: we will get little updates from her, like, biweekly. Like, okay,
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: tell us what we didn't see on camera. Give us
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: those reports, because that's what we really want to know, is, like,
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: when they come in, do Amber and Johnny ever cross paths?
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: What is it like outside? You know, what are these
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: fans like? Oh, they're bringing alpacas outside for Johnny. Like,
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: the weirdest stuff. When did he say.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: He was into alpacas?
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know!
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I'm confused about the alpaca thing.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: People are dressing like Captain Jack Sparrow trying to go
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: into a court. I mean, it's... Total, it's insane.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: It's fun. It's an event. This is the best soap
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: opera you could ever ask for, right? There is no
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: bigger court case in the last 10 years. This one
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: is wild.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Johnny's getting confident. I feel like he's having, I wouldn't
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: say enjoying it.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's enjoying it.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: But I think he is.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: He's 100% enjoying it.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: He's laughing.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: You know why? Because he's like, oh, my image, my
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: reputation has already been ruined. So I'm going to take
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: her down with me. I really think that was the whole.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Point of this whole case. I really feel like he
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: went for it thinking, what do I have to lose?
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I have everything to gain.
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: I have nothing to lose.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Part of me wonders, after watching that, what's that show
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: that was just on Netflix, the Anna show, the Anna Delvey?
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Anna Delvey, yeah.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: Now with the fashion that she wore in the courtroom
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: and how important that was. I wonder if Amber's trying
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: to do the same thing, do the Anna.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: She just keeps copying what he's wearing.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's copying what he's wearing.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: I know, but it's pretty insane that we're calling this
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: out and she's still doing it.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Okay, yeah, you had a juicy one with
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Kristen Doughty. And that happened right after when?
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: Right after she was fired from Vanderpump Rules.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, so how did you get that one?
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: That one, I don't remember how we got that. I'm
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: trying to think.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: We just reached out.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: Because that was a big story. You've got to remember. No,
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: I do. That was a huge, huge story. And so
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: we were like, you know what? We keep breaking these
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: big stories. Do you want to come on and talk
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: for the first time? We'll give you the platform to
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: tell your side of the story. And she came on.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: We also said that we can't come in. We won't
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: come with a bias, but we're going to be asking everything.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: We're going to ask you tough questions.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: We're going to ask you tough questions, but we're not
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: going to come with an angle. It's not gotcha, but
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: we'll give you a platform. We're just curious how it
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: all goes down from Explain to us what happened. Explain
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: to us how it is when you get fired from Bravo.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Like how do you find out? Like everyone's got– not
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: everyone's got– She said she.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: Found out literally five minutes before the world did. Like
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: they had already leaked it out to whatever news site
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: broke it. So she was reading it and then five
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: minutes later the whole world knew she was fired. Her
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: big thing was– look. I get why they were so upset.
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: I just wish I could have learned my lesson on
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: television and that could have been an informative broadcast for
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: everyone involved. She's like, I just wish that this could
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: have been a learning moment for everyone rather than just
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: fire me, get rid of me, and now I'm done for.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: You know, it was just so unfortunate for so many
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: reasons because it was just the world was just... And
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: then it was... Wait, did they get fired before COVID
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: or like during COVID? It was right before. It was
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: right before, but then COVID happened. So, like, there wasn't
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: even that opportunity to film any of them doing this.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: It just, yeah.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: She was wonderful. You know the crazy story that we
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: just heard the other day? That Meghan Markle checked out
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: our podcast.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Checked out? What do you mean?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: She listened to our podcast.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, she listened to it. I thought you meant she
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: checked out her own podcast.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: No, this, like, blew my mind that Meghan Markle... So
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: we had Simon Rex. We had Simon Rex on.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Well, she must be listening to Juicy Skip, too, then.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: I'm sure she is. No, we had Simon Rex on
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: a while ago, and he had this whole story that
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: he told us about how some, so they used to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: co-star in some show together, and then there was rumors
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: that they dated. Well, right before the royal wedding, one
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: of the big tabloids reached out to him and said,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: we'll pay you 70,000, I don't know if it was dollars, euros, pounds,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know what it was, 70,000. to lie and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: say you slept with her. And he came on our
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: podcast and said, I wouldn't do it. It broke the story.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: She apparently listened to the podcast and wrote him a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: thank you note about the whole thing and saying thank
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: you for standing by your morals and not telling these
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: lies just for a quick paycheck. And I thought, that
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: blew my mind.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Also, that kind of info really kind of validates The
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: hell that they were put through with these tabloids and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: chasing the stories and chasing the father and all that
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: other stuff. I read just somewhere that one of her
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Netflix shows, didn't they have a podcast, she and Harry?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: They did. And did it ever come to anything? Because
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: I heard another show of hers.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: We thought the Harry and Oprah thing, they were working
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: on something.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: But her Netflix show just got canned, right?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a childhood thing. What do you
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: mean Netflix is hurting?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: They're losing subscribers.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, give me the scoop. I don't know.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: They should have asked me to be in Netflix is
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: a joke comedy festival.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: HBO Max is like blowing up and Netflix is losing
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: tons of subscribers. And so it's been a whole story.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: I personally don't agree. I love Netflix. I don't know why.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: I think it's kind of like that herd mentality where
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: people hear like, oh, Netflix isn't cool. So we're all
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: going to say it's not cool and start unsubscribing. But
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: they've lost a lot of subscribers because people share their passwords.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: And so the scriber number is going down and down,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: and it's hurting them, and they're having to cancel a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: lot of big shows that they were planning on.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, you know, there is a lot, and it's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: like one of those things where you sometimes have to evaluate,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: you know, how many things you're going to subscribe to.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: And HBO Max, I do like. I also like Hulu.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I just kind of go, what's the hot thing? I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: mean— I'm fortunately not in a place where I have
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: to cancel or steal someone's password, but like, I don't
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: blame people for do I get it. You know, I'm
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: sure if I was like 22 or something, I'd be
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: down for doing that. But, um, Oh, that's okay.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Cause they were supposed to have all these big deals.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, they were going to spend a ton of
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: money on those two. That was, I guess, supposed to
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: kind of, you know, I have to.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I have to say, and I'm sorry, Megan, cause you're listening,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: but I think that's probably the wise thing. I don't,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I never, I didn't think, I was like, I mean,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: it kind of just pissed me off because at that time, like,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: you know, everyone's getting millions of dollars to do a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: podcast and a celebrity's getting millions. I'm like, why? Under
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: what basis? Like, what, oh, come up with content. Well,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: when were you a producer before, Megan? Like, you're a
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: pretty girl and you're a decent actress and I think
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you're a smart woman, but like, I'm sorry, are you Shondaland? Like,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: why would you give someone that? And him, too. Why
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: would you give two of those people to go, oh,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: you have a whole list of things that you can do?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: What is your opinion on Meghan Markle? Because she gets
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: a lot of shit. Like, a lot.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the fact that she has an
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: awful half-sister. I can relate to awful, dysfunctional sibling relationships.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: And jealous siblings. And for that, I feel like that sucked.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: But do you think she deserves the hate that she
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: gets around the world? I've never met her personally. I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: don't know what she's like behind closed doors. I hear
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: all these stories. I don't know if they're true stories.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: We're sitting here talking about how the press was trying
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: to manipulate stories to make her look worse.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think she's a pleasant girl.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I think she had nice parents. She went to an
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: all-girl Catholic high school, which I went to a very
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: similar one, so I related to that. She's an L.A. girl.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: She was raised here. And honestly, I wouldn't want to
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: live in London either. What happens when you're raised in
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Southern California is it's very hard for you to live
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: anywhere else. And that's why I tell people, be careful
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: where you want to send your kid at 18. If
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: they're Southern California pussies, they are not going to be
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: able to, most of them will not be able to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: love and thrive on the East Coast. And that's just
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: a fact.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: But why did it go from.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: Loving her, like, I felt like the world loved her,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: and then the world hated her. And I just don't
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: know what happened. What was it?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's the world. I mean, I think
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: that people still like felt for her, but I think
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the truth is she got in that situation and it
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: was like, you don't, all of a sudden you went
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: from going to Soho house and Soho and Nobu in Malibu,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: doing some TV, flying, maybe having a hot rendezvous with
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Prince of the Prince, planning the wedding. And now you're
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: in a cold, musty place and your girlfriends aren't there
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: and you aren't acting. And I just think it was a...
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's a big bummer. It's like it's the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: old princess in the castle. It's not that great. It's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: just not that great. And so in that, she may
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: have then been struggling, which then reflected on the people
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: around her judging her. And she just... I think she
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: kind of realized, I don't want this life.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: I don't want this life, but I want you. And
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: he was just like, okay, what do we have to do?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I guess, you know.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: He had to have been miserable, too.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: And then, okay, I guess we have to leave, you know?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: And then people blamed... How could you break up the brothers?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: And people always think that, too, about boys. It's the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: wife that takes the boy from the mom. So I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: think that people were just so sad because they saw
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: them as at least they had each other when Diana died.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: And now, who was it? Because they were okay with Kate,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: so it must be her that split them. And there's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: so many theories of why... They're not close right now.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: But that part is sad.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: She's not completely innocent. Like she did have a little
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: bit of strategy to become the star she is. I
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: mean we had Jezzle on the podcast. Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: He's a really famous photographer.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Photographer. And he was dealing with her. I mean directly.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: I mean they were setting up photos. And this is
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: when she was– She was.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: An actress at the time.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: She was an actress.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: She wasn't dating him, I don't think, right?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but she was working the system to get to
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: that level.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I kind of admire that because I didn't, and I'm
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: here talking to you guys.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: You're welcome.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I never screwed anyone. I didn't date the right person.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't, like, nothing. And, like, I kind of admire
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: people that.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or kind of figure it out. And, you know,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: you call it a shortcut, whatever. Call it being thirsty.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: It's like even if you did sleep with someone to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: get the part. Like I always say, like, where's the women?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: When will the people come out and go, I agreed
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: to sleep with Weinstein or whoever. Because I knew that
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: was the only way to get this part. Once I
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: got the part, I never had to sleep with another
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: gross pig again. Because everyone saw what a good actress
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I was. But how was anyone going to see what
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: a good actress I was until I got this platform?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: So I used what I had, and I said an
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: art father, and I got fucking through it. There's a
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: million women like that. No one will say it. And
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for that woman on her deathbed or whatever
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: that embraces it.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, sure.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: And just says it.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: So many women, switch the subjects a little bit. Harvey Weinstein.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: A lot of women came forward saying, oh, I said no.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: He came on to me. I said no. There's a
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: lot of girls who said yes.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: And there's a few of them. Like, who got big
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: roles who actually sucked at them. I used to mess
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: with Harvey Weinstein.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. I was always saying, like,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: there's no way that every single person that he went
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: for resisted. There were enough along the way that complied.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: And they're not bad people, whatever, and it might have
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: been a really horrible experience for them. But, you know,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: but also they might have gotten something great and might
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: have known about it as being a step to get
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: to their goal quicker and didn't really care and didn't
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: see it as... you know, whatever.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: I wish those women came forward. That's what I'm talking about.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: I want to hear their perspective on another angle and
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: I don't judge them for it. I sort of get it.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Because the fear of how to provide for your family
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: or your life and you have this opportunity.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: It's a hard industry.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Or just wanting to get a part.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: Wanting to get ahead.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: When you are trying to get those parts and it's
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: the only way, you know... this before, this before you
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: can make it in podcasting. Like when you, the only
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: way was to get a casting agent or someone or
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: an agent to say yes to you. And you hear
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: so many, so many no's, no's, no's, and you're getting
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: older and you're like, what is, what is the chance
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: of me now ever like getting to that place that
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I imagined? Well, this is, this is going to jump
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: from here to here. So do you want to take
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: the jump or do you want to like Hope that
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: someone's going to say yes in the proper way. Maybe
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: your friend is like, this is what I did. You
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: should do it too. All right, fine.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: I used to fuck with Harvey Weinstein all the time.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: When were you guys sleeping together?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: So I didn't sleep with him. I wasn't his type.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: I tried.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: Trust me.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: If it would have helped me out, I would have.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: But he had an office in Tribeca right next to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: the Greenwich Hotel.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: Just kidding.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: But his office was right next to the Greenwich Hotel.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: They do the Tribeca film festival right there. And I
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: would always be outside the Greenwich Hotel because a lot
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: of celebrities would be there. Every morning, 8.30 in the morning,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: 9 a.m., he'd always be outside talking to a new girl.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: This went on all the time, like a model-ish type
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: girl and talking to a girl. And I always kind
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: of walked by and hear what he's saying. He'd talk
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: about movies. And he was known as an asshole. It
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: was kind of like the theme about him. He was
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: not a pleasant guy. But I used to just think
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: it was funny to fuck with him. So every day,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: if I saw him talking to a different girl, I'd
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: walk up to him and go, I'm sorry to interrupt.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Mr.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Weinstein, I just want to let you know I'm a
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: huge fan. I'm sorry to interrupt. I just want to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: say your movies inspire me. Thank you for doing what
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: you do. Keep doing what you do. I'm sorry to interrupt.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: And just like, just kiss his ass in front of me. Like,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: he turned to the nicest guy and go, thank you
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: so much. Thank you.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: He must have just loved that.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, he loved it because I'd make his ego so big.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: I'd make him look good in front of the girl.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: I did it to him probably about 20 times. This
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: guy never caught on. And it was just so funny
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: to keep fucking with him. Even the paparazzi would be like, dude,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: you're going to fuck with him again?
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: And I would just keep messing with him. And it
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: was like he never caught on. Like the same guy
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: keeps coming up to him like, oh, my God, your
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: movies inspire me. I mean, I don't know what I'm doing.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, that would be really funny if– okay, did
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: you see that movie– It was a couple years ago,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: and I just came across it. Maybe it was Netflix.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Rest in peace. It was called The Assistant or something,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: and it was a smaller film, and it was basically
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: like a Weinstein character. You never see him, but this
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: girl gets a job as an assistant, and she realizes
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: he's not interested in her sexually, and there's two guys.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: So she's like the third assistant. There's the two guys
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: and then her. And then She starts to see that
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: there's these other girls that are coming through. And he's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: also mean and yelling at them and stuff. And they're
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: all like, oh, he's horrific. But then she kind of
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: sees what's going on. They show her just cleaning the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: cum off the couches and what's going on. And this
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: other girl's like, yeah, I guess I'm supposed to be
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: the fourth assistant. But I'm supposed to be doing my
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: work at this hotel or whatever. It's just very... It
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: was done really well, but it was that kind of thing.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying in that movie, that would have been
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: funny if they showed him and he actually hired someone
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: to be that person that does that. Like, honestly, people,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: guys listening to this show, that would be kind of
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: a good thing to do on a date.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: Of course.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Like hire someone. So you're on a date.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: Just to run up to you and act like you're
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: the hottest shit ever or what?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Or even like, let's just say you're like an attorney
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: or what? You're like dating this girl. And you just
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: have somebody walk up and be like, you know, Mr. Jones,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember me. You know, whatever.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Let's say you were a professor somewhere or something before
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: you became an intern. Whatever. Like someone could be like,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember me. You know, I
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: went to the school. You're the greatest guy. And I
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: remember the advice you said. Like just something like that
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: where you're having dinner and you're like, oh. Oh my God,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: he's so, I mean, this is a sociopathic thing for
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: someone to do. This is like a weird job.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but we could start up a business here, guys.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, but it could, I mean, talk about like
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: turning on someone and having them think like, wow, and
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: then finding out later, like, oh my God, that guy
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: was like a hired fan.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: Boost your ego.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: It's called hired business.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: That's actually not bad.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: I like it.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: People hired paparazzi for themselves. I mean, hired fans.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hired admirer, like of just someone being like, almost
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: like in tears, like, You just got me through it.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: This person is so lucky to even know you. Good
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: luck on your date.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to interrupt. If I said if I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: ever run into you, I just have to tell you
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: when I met you at my first job working at
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: your whatever store.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: Can you cut this out so we can use this
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: as our business model?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, let's do it.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, so tell me about the Brooke Hogan. That was
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: one of the first family reality shows kind of wasn't
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: that almost before Kardashians, but after Osbournes?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: In between there. Yeah, because it was when MTV was
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: at its height with big reality shows.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: And it was, Hulk Hogan and his wife had been
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: married for a long time for Hollywood. He's this famous
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: super tan wrestler character. And then he had the two kids,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Brooke and the brother.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: Nick.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit, because obviously that show
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: ended and their life got in Catch everyone up.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so Brooke then had a spinoff show, Brooke Knows Best.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: It was Hogan Knows Best, then Brooke Knows Best, and
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: that was her way to stay in the reality world,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: stay famous.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: And she was trying to follow her, get a music career,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: and see her journey, become a musician out of her
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: father's legacy.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: So we had her stop by, and we literally reached
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: out for her, and she DM'd her on Instagram.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I DM'd her.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: And she responded and said, Sure, no problem. Like, I'll
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: come on. I just don't think anyone had reached out
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: to her in a little bit. And so she was
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: happy to come on.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: So she came on like how many, like a year
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: ago or what?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: She came on six months ago.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, so now it's been like 10 years since she's
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: been on TV. And what's she up to?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: She has, so it's funny, she does remodeling for Airbnbs.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: So she comes in and she's got like the biggest
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: Airbnb remodeling site like in the country. She'll come in
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: and flip your Airbnb remodel. in a day and make
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: it ready to rent out. And it's been huge for her. Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Cause someone who doesn't have a lot of like decorating sense,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: but has some like cabin, she can make all like
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: millennial fun.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: And she is a good idea. Tons of money doing this.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, good for her.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: She did have a weird transition for a while. Cause
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: we talked to her and she said, you know, when
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: I left reality TV, I didn't know what I was doing.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: I was very lost. I was like, I went from
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: being super famous to not having anything and And she goes,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: I started just being a cocktail waitress at a JW
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: Marriott hotel. And she goes, I liked it because I
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: got to just communicate with people. She's like, I've never
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: talked about this. No one ever knew that I was
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: a waitress, but she did it for a year. And
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: she's like, people would come in and they almost wouldn't
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: believe it was her. Because they're like, why is Brooke
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: Hogan serving me?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be rude to Brooke Hogan. But
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: to me, she's so unmemorable looking because I just see... tan, blonde, boob.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: She's like six foot tall, blonde. Yeah.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, pretty and like attractive, but I'm just
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: saying there's so many girls like look like her. I
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: bet a lot.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: But that's California. She wasn't in California. Where was she?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying like Florida.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: Florida or something. Or Nashville.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: Then she went to Nashville.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: But do you think she did get recognized a lot?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: She said she did. Yeah, people would come in and
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: be like, what the hell are you doing here? And
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: she would say, I'm just starting my life over. And
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: she was so honest and real. And that was probably
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: my favorite interview because she was honest. And she was like,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: I didn't have this celebrity air about me. I just
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: had to move along with my life and realize I
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: wasn't a reality star anymore. And this was what Hand
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: was dealt with for.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm always fascinated of what an addiction
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: fame is. Fame is absolutely an addiction. And in this
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: reality world of the last 20 years, it's like this
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: never existed before, where someone that never tried to be
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: an actor or, you know, pursued, you know, anything like
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: even a sports person pursued sports to become an NFL player.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: What like this was, this is just like, you could
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: be just a mom and someone's like, Hey, I'm auditioning
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: for the show and they want to meet another front
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: of my next thing, you know, 12 years later, you're,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: you know, Teresa Gouda, Jude ice on real housewives of
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: New Jersey and your whole life, it's been under a microscope.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Your kids have been raised on it. You're fighting with
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: your sister-in-law. Like you both, you and your husband went
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: to jail. Like you just kind of go, what, what,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: what would have that life been? What would her, what
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: would she look like? Probably not as good. What would
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: her personality be like? What would, it's just because it's
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: just like, all of a sudden just gets handed to
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: you and you're like on the cover of magazines and like,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: it's just such a bizarre thing.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: I think Kid Rock said it best about Pam Anderson
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: when he was dating her. He said, the hardest thing
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: in Hollywood is to be famous with no money. So,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, Pam Anderson's now on Broadway. I mean, she's
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: doing okay. She's doing well. But, like, she's been through
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: a couple husbands.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: A couple? I think she's had, like, six, five.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's tough. I mean, it's hard to... But
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: the thing is, when you go back to work, like,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: remember a few years ago, the guy who was in...
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: Was it the Cosby show?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he worked at Trader Joe's.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: He worked at Trader Joe's.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: That's not easy. A lot of people don't realize, like,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: when you've hit that certain level of fame, doing, I
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: don't want to say quote-unquote a normal job, because... That's
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: just a job. But to be able to do that
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: and realize that you're going to get recognized every day
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: and people are going to criticize you or scrutinize you
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: for that job, I think that's the hard part for
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: these these people that have had some level of success.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I, I interviewed Corey Feldman, which, you know,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: he's a, you know, kind of a different person, whatever.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: But one of the things he said, and it was
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: just like, people are so awful. Like, oh, I'm sorry
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: that I had a hit series from the time that
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: I was nine to 14. How many hit series have
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: you had? So now you are going to point and
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: laugh that like, I'm working at a restaurant or I'm
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: working a regular job or I'm, you know, like how many,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: how many stars really have had like series after series
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: after series, like only a handful, like Courtney Cox, Michael J. Fox,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: like not that many can like hit lightning three and
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: four times. Julia Leo Dreyfus.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: Like that's like it.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: So it's like, if you have it, You know, you
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: get it, like, embrace it, love it, you know, have
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: a backup plan. And, like, because, but people are, exactly,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: people are, like, rude about it, you know.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: I think that's why I liked Brooke's interview so much
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: was because she didn't have that air about her and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: she was so wonderful. Have you had a guest that, like,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: completely shocked you? Because that's how I felt. I was
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: shocked by the Brooke interview. Have you had someone that
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: walked in, you had one perception of them, they came in, sat,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: chatted with you, and you left being like, I did
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: not expect that from them.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Um, I mean, I'm always like, I honestly, I'm, everybody's
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: always really nice if they agree to come. Sometimes they're
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: a little nervous. Sometimes people are like a little odd. Like,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're like just nervous because I'm
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: a comedian or they're just not used to doing stuff
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: like this. Um, and so then sometimes that's a challenge,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: but people are always like, you know, very nice. So
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I'm never like, I'm always expecting, honestly, I'm always expecting
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: like the best. And, and I'm usually, I usually get it.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Like if they're willing to come to Woodland Hills, you know, you.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: Were way out here. Yeah.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Not from here.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and that's another thing like that's happened with,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: with like my life. I was telling Annie the other day, like,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: so I've always grown up here.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: And then throughout my whole life of working in Hollywood,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: I always had to leave an hour before and, And
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: then when I had the Chelsea Lately job, hour before
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: all the parties were down there, nothing ever was here.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: And just the other day, we were going to meet
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: with some old friends from Chelsea Lately. And I was like, oh,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: they're coming from the west side. And I guess, well,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: let me figure out a place to meet in Sherman Oaks.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: And my other friend is like, why don't we just
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: meet at Joey's in Woodland Hills? And I'm like, you
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: mean like near me? like I would only have to
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: drive five minutes. I never, it never even occurred to
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: me that I would choose the easy place. Cause I'm
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: always like, Oh, I don't want to put anyone out. Oh,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want any. Now I'm like, yeah, you come here,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: forget it. Like I'm just like, then don't do the show. Like,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: and it's just so great because I was the one
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: that was in my car my whole life, you know,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: and people being like, I know it's like, Hey, there's
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: target across the street. you know, it's pretty pleasant, but
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: it's true. It's just like, but most, but so that's
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: when people, and even in the beginning of it, I would,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, okay, I'll come to this place or I'll,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: you know, go to the, our office that we have, like,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: you know, for the network down. Now it's been like
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: two and a half years since I've ever done that.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Now I'm just like, whatever.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: It just, is that shade? Cause I had to drive
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: three hours to get here today.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Not shade. I'm saying, I'm saying, I appreciate that you did. No,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that you did, but I'm also like, yeah,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: it is kind of a sign. It is a moment
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: of success.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: She flew across the country for this.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: I don't have to be. I'm sure I'm the only
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: thing that you came for. Yeah, that is really cool.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Tell me about, last story, tell me about the Jodi
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Sweetin thing.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Jodi, I mean, I... I think I– she was– we
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: go for people that I find interesting, people who I
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: think will also be real and also speak. I don't
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: give a shit about like the character you play. Like
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: tell me how you got the job. Yeah, me too.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: Like I don't– I want to be– like I want
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: to be like we're at a bar hanging out like–
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: and I also want you to talk like how it–
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: just be real. Like as you know because you do
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: it on your podcast, it's like– When you watch Live
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: with Kelly, when you watch the Today Show, it's not
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: a real interview. Like, they're performing. The lights are on.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: They know the questions.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: So, like, us, it was, like, really just breaking down, like,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: where were you? Like, how did you get the job?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: Or how did you find out you were fired from
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: the job? What was, you know, what was your contract like?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: But then also very curious about with her, like, how
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: her relationship is with the Olsen twins. And she's like, listen, like,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: and she's totally cool with it. Like, we work together. We,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: you know, it was a long time ago. But then
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: we just, you know, we're cool. I don't have their
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: phone number still. Like, if I saw them. it'd be
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: totally fine, but I get it. They went on to
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: do other stuff. They don't owe us anything. Like it
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: was just, it was nice to hear her perspective on it.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: I think that's, I saw something funny the other day
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: because I guess it was maybe Brittany was on Lala's show,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Brittany Cartwright married to Jax. And someone asked like, oh,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: do you speak to Lisa Vanderpump anymore? You know, since
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: she and Jax were like, go from the show. And
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: she's like, Something like, no, I mean, I really wish
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: she would have, you know, stayed in touch. And the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: person that posted about it after said, like, raise your
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: hand if your boss who fired you stayed in touch
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: with you. And I was like, that's that's really interesting.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like, yeah, I mean, their show ended.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't like and it wasn't like they were
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: the bosses. But in any situation, like, you know, you
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: might have worked at a Haagen-Dazs ice cream shop. When
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: you were 17 and now you're 30, are you still
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: keeping in touch with the people from your Saturday shift? Like,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, even though it's a show, and I just think, though,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: for people that, when you're a celebrity, they want to
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: delve deeper into, like, what happened, why, you know, and
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we got along when we saw each
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: other all the time, and after that, you know, or whatever,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: even if you did really get along and you saw
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: each other, you know, three times a year, and then
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: it might turn into twice a year, then it's... Now
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: it's never.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: I think with the Olsen twins, they just became so successful,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: so young. They kind of went in one direction, and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: then you got Jodi, who still hangs out with Cameron,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: and still was hanging out with Bob Saget, and she
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: was still hanging out with the other side, so I
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: think everyone's always been interested.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: And then they went on to do the show.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: The Fuller House.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: The Fuller House.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Is that still happening?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: No, it didn't get picked up. I think it ran
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: two seasons, but it didn't get picked up.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: On Netflix.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: But here's the crazy part, is where she's like, I'm still, like,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: you think Full House, which was definitely a successful show.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: No one could doubt that. But she's still, like, I'm
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: still trying to figure out how I'm going to pay
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: my bills, how I'm going to get my kids through.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: Because she's like, I rent. Like, I don't own.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: She goes, I clip coupons like everyone else because the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: residual money from that show is not what you would expect.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: She goes, yeah, I still get a check. It's nothing
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: that's going to keep me going in an L.A. lifestyle.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: I have to keep working. I have to keep pushing forward. And, yes,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: I clipped coupons. And I loved that answer.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry if I am mixing up, like, 90s
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: kid stars.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: Stephanie Banner.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: Stephanie.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: No, but did she have a drug issue?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: She did have a rough time.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, so she did. Maybe.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but it was pretty hardcore.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: So in between the two, she struggled, got clean, and
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: then they asked her back on the Fuller House.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: Yes, she got her life together. She is in a
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: wonderful place in her life now. Yeah, she's doing good.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: She's doing really good.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Well, you guys, you're doing good.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: We will know we're doing good when we don't have
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: to drive.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, so true. Tell everybody where they can listen and
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: follow you guys and all that stuff.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: You can find the Hollywood Raw podcast anywhere you obviously
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: download podcasts. You can find us on social media at
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: Hollywood Raw. We're on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook and
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: YouTube and all the social media platforms.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find me at Adam Glyn, G-L-Y-N, Dax Holt, H-O-L-T.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: We're on it. I'm still running around. You want to
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: see my videos? I got my own YouTube thing called
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: Adam's Apple where I'm still running around chasing celebrities. So
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: you see my celebrity content. I was– Got Jeff Bezos
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: the other day. It's fun stuff.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: How lucky is Lauren Sanchez?
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, she loves it. She loves the attention.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: Did you know her when she was here in LA?
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: I met her a few times over the years. I mean,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: she was cool. I liked her. Just score.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: How is she the chosen one?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Well, it's because you got together as couples and you
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: got in there.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: She seemed pretty nice. She loves the attention. Totally. I
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: can say that. She smiled when she came out. Bezos...
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Loves the attention as well. Like, this is the second
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: time I've been around him. Yeah. And you can tell, like,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: he knows who he is.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: His security, like, not as big as you might think. Like,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: I've been around Elon Musk's security where he's got, like,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: Navy SEALs. It's wild how Elon Musk travels. Like, I mean,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: Elon Musk travels in, at least in New York City,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: he's in the cheapest Tesla. And then his other security cars,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: just to not bring attention, they're driving, like, four Tauruses, like, around. Like,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: they're following him, but you wouldn't even know their security.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: And they race him in, race him out wherever he goes.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: Bezos was like, I'm out. Like, he said to the paparazzi, like,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: their security at least said, like, this is where we're
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: going to next.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: What about his glow up?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: Dude, he's ripped now. He's a monster, dude.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: What is he doing?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: He's doing something. I want to know whatever cocktail they're
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: shooting it into.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, he looks good. I mean, he looks great.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: He looks good for him. He's solid. But he knows.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: He gets it.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: And what's your status dating?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: Wifed up.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: You're wifed up, and are you?
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: I've got a wife as well. We've been married for
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: 10 years now. Since high school.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: Congrats to both of you. Thanks.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah doing good.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you alright you still.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: Want us to be a couple don't you um you
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: know I.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Do have fantasies about these things but I think you
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: would probably be more successful if you were but it's okay.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's alright but good luck to you we'll take.
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