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Haliburton steps up again, T-Wolves blow Game 1, Hawkeye talk with David Eickholt · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, Good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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  Wednesday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Trent Condon and Ken Miller for the next two hours to talk
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  sports with you. Thank you for starting your
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  afternoon with us. Here's what's coming up on our
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  program in the next couple of hours.
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  At the bottom of the hour, David Icolt will join us.
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  We'll catch up on the Hawks with David Icolt hawkeyeinsider.com
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  Boy, Iowa. And while the Big 10 overall,
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  they got a cash windfall as they distributed the the revenue to
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  each of the schools that is eligible of which I of course is
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  1 N of 62 million dollars this year.
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  And that number is only going to grow and grow significantly as
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  soon as next year. So I called on Big 10 stuff
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  coming up here at the bottom of the hour.
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  It's Wednesday. That means we will head to
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  Chicago to start the second hour of the show with our friend
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  CAPPY will talk Chicago sports with us coming up here at 1:00,
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  and it's been a while since we checked in on one of our
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  regional baseball teams. So we'll do that today with our
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  friend Brian Walton, who covers the Saint Louis Cardinals, who
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  are just a game below 500 but only four games back in the
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  Central Division Cardinals. Brian Walton,
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  thecardinalnation.com. Thecardinalnation.com Brian
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  Walton bring up Walt Jockity we don't think we touched on last
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  week as he passed away. Of course, spent a lot of time
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  here back in the 70s and 80s down at what at the time must
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  have been called a SEC Taylor Stadium with the not with the
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  Cubs, with the I think it was the A's who were the franchise
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  here back in the day. So we'll talk to Brian Walt
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  about a number of things, but we'll bring out the passing of
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  Walt Jockity and what he meant to those Cardinals as well.
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  Had some NBA last night. Second straight night.
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  The NBA has added a lot of intrigue to the sports viewing
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  calendar, and in particular that first game an Oh boy, the most
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  overrated player in the NBA had himself a sequence at the end of
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  that game, did he not? So this is going to be the
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  playoffs that will change that narrative.
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  I hope so, yeah. Yeah, it was voted on by his
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  peers. This was something somebody's
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  got to be most overrated, right? I guess, I mean, he was on the
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  Olympic team and this is pretty. And maybe that's what it was.
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  Exclusive club. Well, yeah, he didn't play a lot
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  at the. End and maybe people felt that
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  he wasn't deserving of that or at that point in his career was,
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  but sure. But that's going to regardless.
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  I don't think it's a Tyrese Halliburton thing.
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  If you're going to put us something like this, somebody
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  has to be awarded, rewarded, awarded, named, named.
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  There you go. Yep, little.
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  Do you see it as a knock on him? I just.
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  Not really. I just think he's better than
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  that. I mean, if if he's the most
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  overrated, there must be a league full of unbelievable.
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  Superstars. But there was also a reason for
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  it. He.
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  Plays a lot. And that reason is changing.
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  He wilted in big moments and players know that.
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  Players know the guys that when they need a big shot, he's off
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  in the corner. Doesn't want the ball.
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  When you got a hoist and it's going to be a tough shot he
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  passes to. Defer.
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  People know that, players know that and that's changing in
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  front of our eyes. It has changed here these last
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  two weeks. So it can be both things, right?
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  It can be fair at the time. I'm not sure was I think this is
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  a guy likes to distribute. I'm sure he passed up some big
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  shots and and in hindsight, you would have liked him to see him
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  take that opportunity. But you're right.
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  I mean, he's he's now taking those shots instead of trying to
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  find a teammate. Boy, I thought he was going to
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  fall when he grabbed the rebound.
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  He was kind of off balance and I thought, Oh my God, but he found
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  his way out a little, a little jump back and boom with one
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  point, something, one second left or whatever was in the in
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  the basketball game. And now to go up to nothing and
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  go back to Indianapolis for games three and four.
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  And you know what's what's lost in this?
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  I think, well, it is because they're in an O2 hole.
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  How about Mitchell's game on? Yes, my God, not being able, if
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  you know, if he's going to be able to answer the bell to
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  pouring in 48 and limping up and down the court the way he was at
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  the end of that game yesterday. What a player.
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  What a game. And not just the 48, but also 9
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  assists. Yeah, there's more to it.
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  You're right. 4 steals, 5 rebounds.
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  Yep, that is filling up the box. Yeah, and it felt like for 47
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  1/2 minutes, Cleveland was going to get it.
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  Yeah, I was convinced. I mean, I was shocked at the
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  ending. I was glad.
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  But that's what makes the NBA incredibly compelling.
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  Now there's also. Lately.
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  The part of it where do you really need to watch the 1st
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  3/4? That's a good point.
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  Yeah. I found myself going back and
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  forth for that very reason, Trent, because do you really
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  need to watch the 1st 3/4 there? Yeah, they're back and forth and
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  maybe one team grabs a 1520 point lead, but it doesn't feel
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  like it matters. The same thing last night as a
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  watch from start to finish. The Minnesota game, they're down
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  20. They're like they got a rot in
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  them. And they cut it to.
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  A10 I think they got single ditches a couple times.
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  Yeah. Was it single?
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  Yep, got it inside of that a couple of different times so.
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  Under 6 minutes left in the game I think.
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  Got it to 9 twice, but then it was quickly 13 right after that.
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  They had a response every single time.
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  Obviously when Steph Curry leaves the game and he can't get
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  a win, that's incredibly frustrating.
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  You know, that's about as poor as Minnesota is going to play.
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  Certainly offensively, though. They had no answer.
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  Everybody healed, looked like he was back in school.
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  He was unbelievable. Obviously Jimmy Butler's, Jimmy
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  Butler and Draymond Green, not only defensively but chipping in
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  offensively the way that he was last night.
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  This was an impressive Golden State win, a very impressive
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  Golden State win. As Trump mentioned, I mean,
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  Steph Curry was able to only like 13 minutes in that game
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  last night. And now you got to wonder about
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  his status going forward. How long is he going to miss?
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  How many games is he going to miss?
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  Is he going to be able to find a way back at any point during
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  this series? Those questions are all on the
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  table because apparently, obviously there's different
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  grades of this of this of this injury, but we'll see where it
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  goes. Hats off to the Warriors, A they
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  were a dog going in with Steph Curry to lose their biggest
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  offensive weapon in the fashion that they did when they did in
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  13 minutes. He had 13 points.
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  Probably should put that on there in the part of the
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  conversation as well. But Oh my God, what a night.
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  NBA has been great the last two nights.
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  It has been really has and if you would have parlayed all
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  those together, we said it was 70 to 1 yesterday, if you would
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  have also thrown the Warriors in there north of north of 100 to
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  1. Because every Rd. team won game
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  one. And all of them were significant
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  underdogs in that opening game. Yeah, for sure.
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  Nuggets were. Yeah, that's a good point.
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  All right, take a couple of calls.
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  Get to John Cannon momentarily. Jesse is coming up.
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  Want to talk about that major trade in the NFL and what does
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  that do to Are they still America's team?
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  Yes. Are they?
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  Yes, forever, the generations between us.
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  Yeah, OK, They'll still be known as America's.
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  Team. Well, it's self-proclaimed.
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  I mean, they never really were. But everybody calls them that.
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  Yeah. You think somebody's going to
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  take it away? Is it like a championship belt
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  in Can You Think Wrestling? Yeah.
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  Can you take it away? Who would it be?
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  I don't think there's another team.
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  The only one that would be close and I think that they're at the
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  end. I've said this before, the
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  Chiefs, I'm not America's team. They're not.
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  But they've got. They're despised, though they
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  have grown into what every dynasty grows into.
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  True, they're hated. For the Swifties they're it's a
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  different element that wasn't there before during the.
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  It's a different kind of bandwagon, though.
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  No, it is, yeah, sure. A different something that we've
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  really never seen before. I mean, when Madonna was dating
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  Dennis Rodman, everybody didn't suddenly become a Spurs fan.
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  No, that was a Madonna fan, right?
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  Were they? Were they dating?
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  I didn't. Well, I don't know if you'd call
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  it dating, hippity, dippity, whatever it was.
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  Remember, he missed that playoff game and then Madonna was
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  spotted. I.
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  Thought that was with Carmen Electra.
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  Well, it could have been that too.
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  It probably. Was right.
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  I think Madonna was involved at some.
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  Was she? Yes, I think they got married.
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  Carmen Electra and Rodman, they did get married.
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  Did they? Yes.
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  And he wore the dress, he wore the.
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  Dress, yes, but the staying over was Madonna.
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  That was during a playoff run, and maybe he was, but that was
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  what this was. But nobody did.
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  Swifties are completely different on that one, but
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  they're not America's team because what is every you heard
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  it all last year, complaints about they get every single
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  call. You can't be America's team when
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  everybody hates that. True, but America's team became
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  America's team prior to social media.
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  Yes, I did. And they've still held on to
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  that moniker, Jesse and then John.
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  Jesse, thanks for being patient. How are you?
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  Hey, I'm pretty good. How are how are you guys?
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  Doing doing fine. Hey I got 2 two things on
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  Halliburton. I messed up beginning of it but
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  I. Who?
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  Who was the? Pole the Athletic, I think.
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  No players. Players.
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  Yep. So here's my take.
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  I didn't hear if you guys had this take or not.
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  I'm assuming you might have. I think it's his salary.
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  I think they're saying he got the Max too early because if
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  he's AI mean he's an All Star player.
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  If you look, if you're a betting guy and you know the points,
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  rebounds, this line that people bet on over unders.
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  This is always up there with Luca, Joker, LeBron.
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  I mean he does it all. So I think the overrated is 1 is
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  salary and maybe 2 is shooting for him.
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  Yeah, that's true. Not the prettiest.
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  It's effective, but it's not the prettiest.
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  There's plenty of that, Jesse. I think that's a tremendous
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  point because if you. Play, see.
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  Thanks for the call. Appreciate.
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  It any sport at any level and he see that guy.
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  You probably saw it with a guy with a ugly Philip Rivers.
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  There's a perfect another example.
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  Whatever the sport is, think of Jim.
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  Fury I love Philip Rivers, by the way.
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  Jim Furykin golf with that hideous.
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  Swing that hitch. And it just, it drives you nuts.
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  You're like, you can't hit a golf ball with that crappy
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  swing. And yet he's one of the best
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  people in the world. And I'm sure for the best
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  players in the world, they cause Tyrese Halliburton shot is
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  hideous, hideous. But that is Jesse.
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  I think you nailed a big component of it.
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  Remember, I never thought. All 90 players that were
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  surveyed, it's not like every one of them.
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  No, no, no, it wasn't unanimous. No, it was 14% of them he won.
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  By an inch. Right.
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  It was like 16 votes that actually voted him that.
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  It's not like the whole league thinks that either.
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  No, But Jesse, that's tremendous, the form.
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  Never thought of. I think that's a part.
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  Yeah, interesting. Here's John Cannon, noted Golden
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  State Warrior fan. Of course, Spent a lot of time
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  working in sports media in the Bay Area, and John's with us.
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  That was quite a win last night. John Cannon I didn't.
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  Well, I got I. Let me get a couple things
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  before that. Number one, you can demote the
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  Cowboys without having a replacement.
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  America doesn't need a team. It's vacant.
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  You know that. That was the seven.
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  Just leave it vacant. Leave.
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  Yes. You know, Phoenix, there wasn't
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  a team in Phoenix. When I lived in Phoenix, there
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  were still so many Cowboy fans because, you know, Phoenix
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  didn't have a team when when when the Dallas Cowboys were
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  really good. They're on TV every week out
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  there. And so that's why, you know,
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  they became America's team and it's not they just call
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  themselves that and we all go along and talk radio is a big
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  problem with that. You you turn on the radio
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  anytime guilty of the year and talking about the Cowboys, even
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  though they haven't won anything in forever so.
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  Did they get better today, though?
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  I'm going to ask that question to Trent once we talk basketball
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  with you. So we'll see.
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  Well, they traded draft picks for a player, right?
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  So you'd think that they're better, right?
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  Because a player is better than a draft pick right now.
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  CD Lamb and Pickens. That's a pretty good 1-2 punch
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  lining up at receiver. Anyways, I know you want to talk
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  basketball. Let's get.
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  I do couple things #1 Minnesota, somehow by the time they took
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  the floor, I don't think that Indiana had won yet.
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  So let's just say that when they took the floor, three teams home
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  teams had lost their first game. You're right, they had not.
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  It was like one minute left. Right.
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  And, and. But they knew three teams had
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  lost their first game, and yet they took the floor last night
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  like the win was a birth rate for them.
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  Yeah. That's true.
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  They they. And, and one of the guys on the
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  Athletic podcast was talking about that maybe the Lakers are
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  the softest team ever because Minnesota handled them so well.
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  And Minnesota looked really surprised that someone was
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  playing hard against them last night, going for 5050 balls and
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  and out rebounding them and couldn't stop Pat Spencer on his
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  way to the basket. You know, I mean, it was a
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  really weird outing for them. And and you know, Steve Kerr,
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  who's a shooter who's asked about the problems that
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  Timberwolves had shooting threes.
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  And he said, well, maybe the 1st 6 or 7 looks, you know, we
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  really defended them. But then when they when you miss
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  a bunch of them, then even when you're open, you, you don't feel
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  as good and, and they and they don't go in and he knows what
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  that's like. So that was a.
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  Big thing. And then?
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  And now then, the opposite of that is Buddy Hield.
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  The rim looks like the ocean and people forget.
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  You know, he really statistically has been one of
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  the best 3 point shooters in the NBA for years.
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  And was in Oklahoma. And well, and in Oklahoma, but
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  he he's played so long, it's like we judge these players when
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  they've played in bad situations.
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  You know, I don't even remember who he got drafted by, but he
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  was traded to to Sacramento when they were bad.
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  And then he was in New Orleans, right, right.
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  And then he he was not in the rotation in Philly.
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  And you just start to think, oh, that guy is, you know, he's
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  just. A guy, but.
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  That Oklahoma, that that feeling that he had, in fact, when they
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  asked him after game seven, you know, what about it?
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  Was this your best game ever? He said.
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  Ask Dylan Brooks, because Oklahoma beat Oregon and Buddy
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  had 35 and he said he said to Brooks on the court, he said I
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  sent you home once and I'm going to do it again.
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  Nice. So.
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  But the Curry thing's a problem. How long?
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  I'm sure that you've been trying to find out as much as you can.
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  What have you heard? They won't know.
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  He's never had this, you know, he tried to play on it.
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  Did you guys see that video? Yes, absolutely.
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  Yeah, he's feeling the twinge and he's still cutting.
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  So I, you know, he certainly won't play tonight.
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  I don't think he would. He would play in Game 3.
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  And you know, remember, Trent dropped that little nugget on us
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  2 days ago about that extra day because of the Valkyries home
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  opener. There's three, three days
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  between 5:00 and 6:00. And that's the thing.
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  If the Warriors can win one of the next three and force a Game
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  6, that would give him a lot of time to get back.
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  So they got to win one of the two homies.
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  They're not. They're not winning, you know?
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  In games from time. Yeah, that.
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  Seems like a reasonable thing, although it might not be.
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  You know, hamstrings are are funny.
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  This could actually be the kind of be the end of the line.
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  The irony is Minnesota could have ended that series in the
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  fourth quarter last night. They had opportunity.
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  If they if they win that game last night, the series is over.
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  The only chance that the Warriors had was to win that
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  game, and Minnesota let that happen.
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  John, got to let you go, brother.
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  Thank you. Appreciate the call.
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  John Cannon as we check in on Golden State, that that was it
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  mean, gutsy effort, right? Down the stretch, they got it
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  back to the single digits. They had opportunities and got
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  it to 9, right back to 13. The biggest part though, it
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  wasn't the threes and though there were a couple of daggers,
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  Butler hit that one that I think push it back up to like 15.
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  When they got it to dozen, it was that late, 3rd, early,
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  whatever it was, he's off balance.
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  He's faded. End of the shot clock.
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  It just goes in like that. But then the offensive rebounds
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  can't allow that to happen. There were a couple of times
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  where Gobert, he had Butler on him.
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  At one point, he just finally backed him.
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  He's a hell. Of a player.
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  But they didn't get to him enough and he didn't take
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  advantage of of your advantages. I don't think it was a Finch
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  thing and I listened to the post.
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  I think it was a Draymond Green thing a lot of the way.
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  I thought he was really good yesterday.
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  It was also an Ant thing. Well, he's was first point of
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  the game was with one man left in the first half, right and it
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  was he made he missed his first free throw, made the 2nd and
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  finally got in the call in the scoring column.
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  And Finch mentioned this last night post game that he is still
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  at the point where he has to realize what's going on over
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  there. The Jets were just on TV.
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  Sorry. When Anthony Edwards is not
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  hitting shots, when he is struggling offensive, when
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  somebody has locked him down, he has to impact the game other
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  ways and that is we. Took over on the boards.
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  The final part of it that he has to be able to do that.
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  He has to do that part. My shots not falling, but I can
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  still help the team in other ways.
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  And he got going in the fourth quarter and he was getting to
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  the rim and he was finishing and he was doing those kind of
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  things. Hit a three.
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  I think that one of them maybe cut it to 9.
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  However, no, no, no hit the three.
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  The only one he made. The three.
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  But it shouldn't be the far part where you're down 20 before that
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  starts to happen. You can't allow that part.
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  Inexplicable. When one thing I've noticed,
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  when Chris Finch calls Aunt out and it happens, he responds.
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  That's another reason that I love him as a player.
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  You can coach him. Yes.
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  He's not a shrinking Violet. He's not a guy that that can't
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  handle it. He is a guy that listens,
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  understands, dives a little bit deeper, understanding what he
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  says. And because we see this with so
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  many superstars, and not just to the NBA in sport, the guys that
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  can't handle that criticism, that is, I believe, one of the
• 18:08
  strengths and one of the reasons he is going to become a face of
• 18:11
  the league because he can take it from all walks.
• 18:13
  Yeah, that guy in the corner that's talking crap to him or
• 18:16
  that player in the corner talking crap to him, yeah, he'll
• 18:18
  have fun there. But he'll also listen and also
• 18:20
  internalize these kind of things.
• 18:22
  That's why this guy is going to be a superstar, and I anticipate
• 18:25
  he's going to bounce back in a big.
• 18:26
  Way yeah, I do too. I do too.
• 18:29
  I real quick on this as we brought up the Cowboys formerly
• 18:33
  known as I think they got better today and and and here's where I
• 18:37
  want to go with you because we both like the bet.
• 18:40
  We both like the bet futures. I'm guessing, Trent, that there
• 18:44
  was it's been a long time since we're in the middle of May.
• 18:47
  Well, not quite the middle of May, early May and the Cowboys
• 18:50
  are 70 to 1 to win a Super Bowl. They're the third choice to win
• 18:55
  the AFC East. They're 30 something to win to 1
• 18:59
  to win the to win the NFC Cowboys at 71.
• 19:03
  Could I enter at 72? One could I interest?
• 19:05
  You you couldn't because it's to win the Super Bowl.
• 19:08
  Could I interest you at 35 to 1 to win the North?
• 19:13
  To win the NFC, you mean? I mean, they're to win the NFC,
• 19:15
  yes, yeah. I I couldn't.
• 19:18
  It's crazy because every year, don't bet the Cowboys, don't bet
• 19:22
  the Cowboys, don't bet the Cowboys.
• 19:23
  No, it's normally Super Bowl things, but they're overvalued
• 19:27
  in the market seemingly every single year.
• 19:28
  Because they're the Cowboys. They're the tax, right?
• 19:31
  That goes along with it. Those public teams that the
• 19:33
  extra, the Yankees in the in baseball, there's that extra tax
• 19:36
  that you're going to have to pay, and that's certainly the
• 19:38
  Cowboys in the NFL. VGK in Nevada.
• 19:41
  Yes, there. There's another one that we see
• 19:44
  every single year. This is a team, though, that won
• 19:48
  12 games the last three years before last season when their
• 19:51
  quarterback got hurt. They still, even with that 17
• 19:54
  and 10, they still got Parsons. Now they got George Pickens.
• 19:59
  He's painted the S, Yeah. But he's.
• 20:02
  He's really good in the in the locker.
• 20:04
  Room guys like him. Yes, I've heard that.
• 20:06
  Here's one more that that might even be more appealing to you.
• 20:09
  How about plus 7:50 to windy east?
• 20:12
  Eagles 2 years ago. Commanders are two to one.
• 20:16
  You think that that they're sophomore slump you.
• 20:19
  That's what you're expecting. Of course, the Giants have no
• 20:21
  shot. The Giants have no shot for a
• 20:24
  team that has 12 and five that not just snuck into the player
• 20:29
  12 and five the last three years at 7:00 to 1, he said.
• 20:33
  To win that division, 7 1/2 to win that division.
• 20:37
  I can't believe I'm saying this, but yes, I would be willing to
• 20:40
  bet futures before the season. Yeah.
• 20:43
  On the Dallas Cowboys. And here's the crazy part about
• 20:45
  all the divisions in football. The team that's that's ranked
• 20:48
  third in their division, the highest price is the Cowboys.
• 20:52
  Yeah, that's nuts. Unthinkable, right?
• 20:55
  I'm with you, I don't understand it but something to watch.
• 20:59
  I think they got better. Eagles.
• 21:02
  Do they Super Bowl hangover commanders.
• 21:07
  I I like the commanders. I like the commanders more than
• 21:10
  Trent does. So we we'll see.
• 21:11
  But at 70 to one, at 35 to 1 to win the NFC and they can get
• 21:16
  them in the East at 7 1/2 to one.
• 21:18
  All right, let's get Mike in Waterloo.
• 21:19
  That will take a time out since Mike in Waterloo remind me of
• 21:22
  the Cyclones when he calls. I got through Scott Dockerman's
• 21:24
  piece yesterday. It is a phenomenal read trend.
• 21:27
  It really is good. If you haven't had a chance to
• 21:29
  read it, if you're a Cyclone fan and you don't want to read it
• 21:32
  because a Hawkeye writer in your mind wrote it and you're going
• 21:35
  to cut off your nose to spite your face.
• 21:37
  It is such a good look into Iowa State and where they were and
• 21:41
  where they're at now and what they were.
• 21:43
  You know, the me, Matt Campbell giving up more of a salary.
• 21:46
  If you need me to give up more, I'm willing to do do that.
• 21:49
  This on the heels of the news today that the Big 10 gets $62
• 21:53
  million per school. Now, before we get to mic real
• 21:56
  quick, the athletic department doesn't get all that money,
• 21:59
  correct? Or do they?
• 22:01
  Does 62,000,000 go in their coffers?
• 22:04
  All of it. They don't have to shell some
• 22:07
  out to the university in general.
• 22:10
  No. I didn't know that, that's why
• 22:11
  I'm asking. I don't believe so.
• 22:13
  I don't. They got to think they got to
• 22:16
  pay something to the university, don't they?
• 22:18
  For what? Because it's the university.
• 22:20
  Of sure, but it's not like there's a licensing fee.
• 22:24
  No, no, we might get there. Yeah.
• 22:27
  But I don't. Know, I don't know how it's
• 22:28
  distributed. I'd like to know that.
• 22:30
  I mean, I know it goes to the other athletic programs and
• 22:33
  obviously they they pay the bills for the breadwinner, but
• 22:38
  does like the political science or the dentistry department, do
• 22:43
  they get any of it? I don't.
• 22:44
  Know. No, I don't think so.
• 22:45
  Yeah, I don't know the answer. Mike's in Waterloo.
• 22:48
  Welcome to the program, Mike. How are you?
• 22:50
  Hey, how are you guys doing? Well, couple weeks ago I called
• 22:53
  about the White Sox turn in the corner.
• 22:55
  I take that back. Did you see that play last
• 22:58
  night? Yeah, that was the biggest
• 23:00
  debacle I've ever seen. The guy let the ball hit him on
• 23:03
  the top of the head. All he had to do was that was
• 23:06
  Little League play. You guys watched?
• 23:08
  I did. I did.
• 23:11
  Double play, I mean it would have been a little hard, but
• 23:13
  they would have got out and got a victory.
• 23:15
  They played a good game the whole game until the 9th inning,
• 23:18
  but I could not believe the guy hit.
• 23:21
  I've never seen that except. I've seen a Canseco.
• 23:23
  That would be the only one, Mike, like you say, you brought
• 23:25
  up Canseco, but that that's an outfielder.
• 23:27
  So you know, you ball completely they tricks on you when it's
• 23:30
  going that far. But for the second baseman, have
• 23:32
  a pop up hit him in the I guess it hit the bill of his cap and
• 23:35
  then went off the back. But still it was awful.
• 23:38
  I mean, as you said, that's a Little League play.
• 23:40
  Come on. And I tell you one thing.
• 23:43
  And then they give that Robert a day off.
• 23:46
  Come on guys, baseball. The center fielder playing every
• 23:50
  game. I mean come on, the people want
• 23:52
  to see victories and start bringing up the guys in AA and
• 23:56
  triple AI mean I'm tired of it. This is ridiculous.
• 23:59
  I'm paying 20 bucks a month to watch a guy get hit on the top
• 24:03
  of the head with a baseball. I mean, I could have caught that
• 24:07
  ball. A week ago, Mike, you told us
• 24:09
  they were going to be a 500 team the rest of the year.
• 24:11
  What happened? You know what I did?
• 24:13
  I. I did when I'm a when I'm wrong
• 24:15
  yeah you never make a talk show host, Mike.
• 24:18
  You just move on all right thanks, guys.
• 24:20
  Good to hear from your brother and we do we admit our we
• 24:23
  usually do we do yes, absolutely that's funny.
• 24:26
  Good for my did you see the play that he's talking about yes good
• 24:29
  God a week ago they're. Going to play 500 ball the rest
• 24:32
  of the year. They are playing better than the
• 24:35
  Rockies. Than the Rockies.
• 24:36
  Yeah, they're not the worst. Team Not the worst team.
• 24:39
  Can you be a Can you imagine being a fan of the Colorado
• 24:41
  Rockies? God Yep, I remember I was a fan
• 24:45
  of the Minnesota Twins in the 90s after night.
• 24:47
  But you won a world. Series that decade.
• 24:49
  I also watched them in 92 and 3 and 4.
• 24:52
  And you would love to watch them the entire 94.
• 24:54
  But sadly, that was taken away from us.
• 24:58
  Yeah, it's too bad. What could have been if it would
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  And then Brian Walton for you Cardinal fans out there haven't
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  caught up with Brian Walton to talk to Red Birds since prior to
• 26:17
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• 26:19
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• 26:22
  We'll talk some Hawks with David Ickelt.
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  Look forward to catching up with him on a number number of
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  topics. We'll start with the the money
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  that the Big 10 schools received here are in the process of
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  receiving. Let's get to them.
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  hawkeyeinsider.com. David joins us.
• 26:37
  David, Trent, Ken, thanks for coming on.
• 26:39
  How are you? Doing good man, Good to be
• 26:42
  talking to you. A beautiful day out.
• 26:44
  Just finally taking a deep breath, man.
• 26:46
  It feels like the craziness is finally slowing down, and not
• 26:50
  gonna lie to you, I'm pretty happy about it.
• 26:51
  I bet you are a couple of topics.
• 26:55
  We'll get to it. I guess we should start by just
• 26:57
  going back to Sunday. Obviously you were in the
• 26:59
  building for the Indiana Fever exhibition game, preseason game
• 27:03
  against the Brazil national team. 1.3 million people turned
• 27:08
  on their televisions on a Sunday afternoon in early May to watch
• 27:13
  that. I was one of them, at least for
• 27:14
  the 1st 24 minutes and then enough's enough.
• 27:18
  You know what, it was just, it was just, there was no
• 27:21
  competition whatsoever, but it was good to watch.
• 27:24
  And obviously the the welcome that Caitlin received when she
• 27:28
  was back home, that was certainly to be expected.
• 27:32
  But just your thoughts on the overall day?
• 27:36
  I mean, it's pretty incredible. I mean, I think you go back to
• 27:38
  even when they introduced the starting lineups, I mean, every
• 27:41
  single Fever starter had at least 110 decibels.
• 27:44
  I mean, it wasn't just Caitlin. It kind of goes back to what she
• 27:47
  said back in college, right? Yeah, they might.
• 27:49
  TuneIn for me, but they learned to support everybody and they
• 27:53
  support everybody. I mean that's why you know, Kate
• 27:55
  Martin's an all time favorite. Gabby Marshall got a standing
• 27:58
  ovation when she walked in the building.
• 28:01
  They didn't the camera didn't show her.
• 28:02
  There was no announcement. She just walked in and everybody
• 28:05
  recognized that immediately gave her kind of a hero's welcome
• 28:09
  back. But you know, it's just one of
• 28:11
  those things man, where I do think the WNBA, the fever, I
• 28:13
  think they're going to need to really take a serious look at
• 28:16
  doing it again in a couple years.
• 28:17
  I think it was a success from all angles.
• 28:20
  And I've said this for the last few years.
• 28:22
  I think you look at the support that women's basketball has in
• 28:25
  the state of Iowa, whether it be Iowa State top 10 attendants,
• 28:29
  you and I, Drake with Cage in a beer and obviously Iowa, I think
• 28:32
  Des Moines should put in a fever, put in a bid to be an
• 28:35
  expansion team for the WNBAII. Really do think it would work.
• 28:39
  I think Wells Fargo would be a really good place for that.
• 28:42
  But just kind of focused on Caitlin specifically.
• 28:44
  Man is every single time there's a moment she just lives up to
• 28:47
  it. And you know, I know people want
• 28:49
  to say, oh, it's a 60 point blowout, but man, she pulled up
• 28:52
  from 36 feet and that was her only shot attempt from that far.
• 28:55
  So it wasn't like she got four or five attempts from her spot
• 28:58
  to do it. She just did it.
• 29:00
  And again, to just kind of be so consistent at that level to
• 29:04
  continue to live up to the hype and create those iconic moments
• 29:07
  in an exhibition game, by the way, it's just it's just
• 29:12
  special, man. It really, really was another
• 29:13
  all time day in a Carver Hawkeye arena.
• 29:16
  Taking it a step further on the women's basketball program, the
• 29:19
  momentum that's been created, Emily Rodriguez, they had her
• 29:23
  coming in on campus for a visit from Central Florida.
• 29:26
  Kind of that next step for GM Jensen's program because people
• 29:29
  see it. You saw pros talking about the
• 29:31
  environment at Carver Hawkeye Arena.
• 29:33
  Got to keep this going on the women's side.
• 29:35
  How does that continue and what can you tell us about Rodriguez?
• 29:39
  Yeah, I mean, I think she'd be kind of that final piece to the
• 29:41
  puzzle for next year's team. I think she's a really versatile
• 29:43
  player, only shot 33% from 3 point range, but fundamentally
• 29:48
  sure shot mechanic I think looks good.
• 29:50
  I think she could get up to about 3536%.
• 29:53
  But she's a solid rebounder, a very reliable defender and I
• 29:56
  think the best basketball is ahead of her.
• 29:58
  So she is going to be on campus I believe Monday and then she's
• 30:02
  going to go to Indiana the day after.
• 30:04
  So I know Jan Jansen is working hard on that one.
• 30:07
  But you're exactly right. I know obviously the game
• 30:10
  against with the fever is not was not an Iowa event, but I do
• 30:14
  think that Jan and company are going to use that kind of
• 30:16
  leverage to all recruits. Like look at this like this is
• 30:20
  the type of environment that Carver Hawkeye does create.
• 30:23
  But you know, if they can land Rodriguez, I think that'd be a
• 30:25
  great piece for next year. But I've said this on my message
• 30:28
  board. I've said for the past few
• 30:29
  months, man, the 2026 class has a chance to really be special
• 30:34
  for Iowa and they are competing with the big fish.
• 30:37
  I mean, I they're right in the thick of it for number one
• 30:39
  overall prospect, Kate Harpering, who has offers from
• 30:42
  everywhere in the world. Basically, McKenna will let's
• 30:45
  go. I think Iowa has another
• 30:47
  realistic. I would say at this point I was
• 30:50
  in their top three and those are two of the top three prospects
• 30:53
  in the entire country. And I was working on several
• 30:55
  other five stars. So, you know, I think getting
• 30:58
  Lashondra Bear, the new assistant coach, is going to be
• 31:00
  big. I think she's a tremendous
• 31:02
  recruiter and obviously Iowa just has the recruiting
• 31:05
  resources for her to kind of maximize her capabilities as
• 31:09
  well. So obviously Gang Rodriguez on
• 31:11
  campus is big. I think ideally they want to
• 31:13
  lock her down before she has a chance to go to Indiana.
• 31:16
  It'll be interesting to see if they can do that.
• 31:19
  But you're exactly right. I still think there's a ton of
• 31:21
  momentum with the program, but they definitely need to lock in
• 31:23
  some of these top prospects. Then I think Iowa fans need to
• 31:26
  continue to learn how to be comfortable with the
• 31:28
  uncomfortable because you know what happens with five stars?
• 31:30
  They're recruiting recruitment's drag out and drag out and you're
• 31:34
  competing against the big time people.
• 31:36
  So it it'll be kind of fun to see how these next few months
• 31:38
  shake out. I was of the opinion that the
• 31:42
  the attendance numbers were going to come back down a little
• 31:45
  bit, not off the face of the of Cliff, but by any means.
• 31:48
  But they because last year was impossible to get a ticket.
• 31:51
  I thought this year coming up that you know what the ticket
• 31:54
  availability is going to be there.
• 31:56
  You'll be able to get tickets. Maybe game day they're still
• 31:58
  going to draw over 10,000, but I'm not so sure anymore.
• 32:01
  I think, I think that the interest is still there.
• 32:03
  What about ticket sales and knowing that they're seemingly
• 32:06
  McCollum is building momentum, What what's what's attendance
• 32:11
  like for women's basketball? Same as last year or a little
• 32:14
  bit lower? I think it's going to be a
• 32:17
  little bit lower, but I don't think it's going to be by much.
• 32:19
  I really don't. I just think you look at the way
• 32:22
  Jan Jensen was received at that Indiana Fever game, by the way,
• 32:26
  I mean, she spoke to the crowd, asked people to keep coming out,
• 32:29
  right? There was a lot more Iowa
• 32:30
  centric stuff for a fever event then I I thought there was going
• 32:34
  to be. But I think Jan Jensen, just
• 32:36
  kind of her being in Iowa and her connecting with the
• 32:39
  community and just the iconic moments that have happened over
• 32:42
  the last few years, right? I mean, even last year they sold
• 32:45
  out their season tickets so early.
• 32:46
  I think Lucy Olson played a big part in that.
• 32:48
  But you're going to get a senior hand, Skokie, you're going to
• 32:50
  get a freshman class that people really connect with.
• 32:52
  Ava Hayden is going to be there. They have chitchat, right?
• 32:55
  I mean, they're going to have people I think really connect
• 32:58
  with them. And also Kylie Fierbach coming
• 33:00
  back. I I think that's a very kind of
• 33:02
  underrated addition and next year's team as well.
• 33:04
  So maybe Ben McCollum and in the rise of Iowa Mens basketball
• 33:08
  tenants levels out the woman's a little bit.
• 33:11
  But I do think that's an exciting time to be a fan of
• 33:13
  both programs because I mean, I know what you guys probably want
• 33:15
  to get to the men's side of things, but I really, really
• 33:17
  like the way that that roster is shaking out.
• 33:19
  I think there's a lot of potential there.
• 33:22
  And if and if the women can get Emily Rodriguez, I mean, I still
• 33:25
  think they're going to be a 20 plus win team next year at
• 33:27
  least. Let's go to that men's side,
• 33:29
  still looking in the portal. Is Ben Mccollum's Group One of
• 33:33
  the names that have been speculated about?
• 33:35
  I know truly, Donovan's site had a lot about this.
• 33:37
  Was it Theus De Ritter kid from Belgium?
• 33:39
  Big kid, sounds like how big, Like 6-8, but he's 22 years old,
• 33:44
  thick, strong, good rebounder. Now, maybe Virginia's the front
• 33:48
  runner there. What can you tell us about that
• 33:50
  and the two guards that they've had on campus the last couple of
• 33:52
  weeks? Yeah.
• 33:53
  So I mean, you're right. I mean Deridder's obviously been
• 33:56
  names been thrown around and in the wingspan.
• 33:59
  I mean that's what's made of such an effective rebounder.
• 34:01
  I would say that Virginia is the kind of the clubhouse leader at
• 34:05
  that point. And it is kind of interesting to
• 34:07
  watch Ben McCollum try to get in with with the Euro market,
• 34:11
  right? I think that's kind of an
• 34:12
  untapped potential there. I mean, obviously now there's a
• 34:15
  director of scouting. I think Ben McCollum has
• 34:17
  finalized a deal for a new strength coach.
• 34:20
  I expect that announcement to be coming out here in the next
• 34:22
  couple of days. But, you know, it's interesting
• 34:25
  watching McCollum work because he just, it doesn't seem to be a
• 34:28
  panic among McCollum among any of the coaches.
• 34:32
  Like, they're very patient about who they're trying to get with
• 34:35
  this team. I know he's a gift of another
• 34:36
  guy that Iowa had had significant traction with.
• 34:39
  I think things have kind of stalled out, even though there
• 34:41
  was some early momentum. And I was told by two sources,
• 34:45
  you know, a week and a half ago that he was going to commit.
• 34:49
  But I think kind of with the Ritter's emergence and kind of
• 34:52
  them figuring out the way they want the roster to look, one
• 34:55
  thing I will give McCollum and company respect about guys is
• 34:59
  they're not going to overpay for anybody.
• 35:01
  They don't care. They they believe in their
• 35:02
  development. They believe that they can go
• 35:04
  out and get the right pieces for the right price.
• 35:07
  And I don't think Ben McCollum and company are going to want to
• 35:10
  get in much of A bidding war. I think when you listen to him
• 35:13
  talk about the the culture he wants to create with team mantra
• 35:18
  and kind of being a servant first, whether we serve in the
• 35:21
  community, serving for your teammates.
• 35:23
  He doesn't want guys are trying to hold out.
• 35:25
  Getting and bidding wars was cold.
• 35:26
  I think he's very comfortable tying ties and going to find the
• 35:29
  right pieces. And I still think that I need
• 35:31
  maybe one or two more pieces. I would like for them to add
• 35:34
  another kind of lengthy stretch 5, even if it's a 686 foot nine
• 35:38
  guy that can get a lot of rebounds.
• 35:41
  But I also think that they're not panicking.
• 35:43
  They're not going to overpay for for A5 that, you know, the
• 35:47
  market so slim. I mean, I've been hearing that
• 35:49
  there have been guys averaged 9 points and seven rebounds.
• 35:52
  They're getting one point, 7 million in the portal.
• 35:55
  And I mean, that's, I hate to say it, that's kind of
• 35:57
  pedestrian numbers forever big, but that's just the way the
• 36:01
  market is right now. And I think they would rather
• 36:04
  use that money to get a guy like Alvaro Fugueris do.
• 36:07
  I think you look at the pick and roll potential, pick and pop
• 36:09
  potential with him, then it starts and you have Brendan
• 36:12
  Howleson on the wing. That's not going to be fun for
• 36:15
  opposing defense to play against.
• 36:17
  No, that's for sure. Is there?
• 36:18
  I I thought I read an article. A Texas A&M kid will reenter the
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  portal. Miles.
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  Maybe his last name, June. Do you know who I'm talking
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  about? Miles Duke.
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  OK, what's is, is Iowa in on him?
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  I think they're doing their homework on them.
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  I still think they're investigating a few other Portal
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  pieces. I don't know how much traction
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  there's going to be, but I'm not going to say the name
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  specifically, But I'll give you another update.
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  Just kind of what the market is right now.
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  I mean guys, there are people in the Portal right now that
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  averaged 4 points a game that believe they were in the wrong
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  system and their camp wants $1,000,000.
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  But that's where we're at right now.
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  And again, I'm not blaming the kids.
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  I'm paying more. For the agent than anything else
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  and the people around them. But I think people are going to
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  I think it's going to come back down to reality here over the
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  next couple of years because people are not going to pay for
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  pedestrian production. And I'll tell you the level of
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  accountability that athletes. The Trent and I've made a living
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  at it. Pick up the joint, it's going to
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  be bad. Oh my gosh, that is truly
• 37:22
  something. Get you out on a football
• 37:24
  question here, David, Final minute with you had an article I
• 37:27
  saw you just posted at Hawkeye Insider just a little bit ago
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  about what you want to see from the offense.
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  It feels like everybody's bought in here.
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  Are you diving head first? I mean, you're not dipping your
• 37:38
  toe in. This offense is going to look
• 37:39
  different this year. I got my foot in.
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  I got both. I got one right.
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  I want to see more backyard football and I think Tim Lester
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  is going to let that happen. I mean, I think you'll get Mark
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  Granowski. I mean, I'm very curiously how
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  his shoulder rehabs going if he can create chemistry with the
• 37:56
  wide receivers. I like the offensive line.
• 37:59
  I like the idea of Jazzine Patterson, Kamari Moulton.
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  I like the receiver room. Don't know how many all
• 38:03
  conference guys they have, but they have some depth.
• 38:05
  And again, I think Mark Granowski is the guy that can
• 38:07
  make the offense go. I need to see a little bit more
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  out of that strain in the tight ends, but it just feels like
• 38:13
  it's going to be a little bit different this year.
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  And I know people have heard that before, but they also
• 38:17
  haven't had a second year. Tim Lester.
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  So I'm kind of in on it right now.
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  I'm not going to lie. We'll see.
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  I got my foot in right now. Yeah, I think that's there's a
• 38:25
  lot of people in that gap, no doubt about it.
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  David Eichel, thank you for what you do for us.
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  Appreciate it. We will talk to you and we'll
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  see you down the road. hawkeyeinsider.com.
• 38:34
  Thank you, David Eichel. Yeah.
• 38:37
  Good to talk to you, buddy. David Eichel, we check in on
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  Iowa. We'll take a time out, come back
• 38:42
  and finish up the hour. But, Trent, we got a little
• 38:45
  homework to do before we do that.
• 38:47
  As you know, taking place at Principal Park this weekend, the
• 38:51
  Hawkeye Bat baseball team is hosting Oregon State.
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  All the proceeds from this tournament go to Hawkeye
• 38:58
  baseball. Prince, the I Cubs don't get
• 39:00
  anything. Maybe concessions.
• 39:01
  We're not even sure about that. But if you want to go, we've got
• 39:04
  2-4 packs right now. First two callers, you can
• 39:08
  either choose first caller gets Friday, Saturday or Sunday.
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  And we'll save whatever tickets we have left for tomorrow.
• 39:15
  But if you can go Saturday, let me get the game times right in
• 39:19
  front of me here. So first pitch Friday is 635,
• 39:22
  first pitch Saturday is 335. First pitch Sunday is 12 O 5.
• 39:27
  You have a four pack of tickets to see Hawkeye Baseball just for
• 39:31
  the asking. You choose the day.
• 39:34
  We'll do that at 515-284-5966. Miller and Condon back to wrap
• 39:39
  up the hour in the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 39:41
  All right, Miller and Condon, welcome back Iowa Sports Radio
• 39:44
  Network. Trent Condon, Ken Miller taking
• 39:46
  you until 2:00. So we don't have a ton of time
• 39:49
  to do this, but a little sample of this because I've I've had
• 39:52
  some fun with this yesterday. So this apparently is every
• 39:55
  Major League Baseball players best player ever.
• 39:59
  Oh OK, each team best player ever.
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  So I'm just going to throw a couple of teams and just see
• 40:03
  what what pops in your mind first.
• 40:06
  I'll do the regionals. How about that?
• 40:08
  Kansas City Royals, George Brett.
• 40:10
  George Brett is who they came up with.
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  Chicago Cubs. Chicago Cubs Chicago best
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  player. Ever.
• 40:20
  Best player ever. Ever.
• 40:22
  Best player ever, Best player ever.
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  Ernie Banks. Oh, of course.
• 40:27
  Yeah, jeez, I overthought that one.
• 40:29
  Chicago White Sox. Chicago White, Frank Thomas.
• 40:31
  That's who they have on the list.
• 40:34
  Now let's find your twins. Harm and killebrew.
• 40:37
  Good one, Trent. That's not who they went with.
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  Kirby Puckett. Yeah.
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  Two World Championships. Saint Louis Cardinals.
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  Not Ozzy Smith. No, but that would have been a
• 40:48
  good one. Bob Gibson, that's another good
• 40:50
  one. It's got a statue, but I think
• 40:52
  both of those other. Guys, Sam usual.
• 40:54
  Sam usual. That's a list.
• 40:56
  It is. It's a pretty fun exercise,
• 40:58
  right? Just what name comes into your
• 41:00
  head first of all? Well, David Kaplan comes into
• 41:02
  mine and you'll be on your radio when we come back.
• 41:05
  We'll talk Chicago sports with Cappy, then we'll do the
• 41:07
  Cardinals with Brian Walton. Trying to make some plays of the
• 41:10
  day. Hour to Go, Miller and Condon,
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  Iowa Sports Radio Network.