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Kristen Flowers, the Professional? · Nick and Kristen in the Podcast

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Hello and welcome to Nikki and Kristen in the podcast.
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I'm Nick. That's Kristen.
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We are married. We used to be a morning show and
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now we do a podcast together and we have a daughter that's 7.
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Thank you for watching. Don't forget to subscribe if you
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like what you hear. It's going to be daily episodes,
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15 minutes, which is about how long it takes for you on average
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to commute. Yeah, hopefully that's why we do
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the 15 minute thing. If you want longer, let us know.
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No, I'm not. I'm putting my foot down right
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now. There's absolutely no way.
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There's no way. I will give you 15 minutes a
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day, Nick. It's true.
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OK, so we're going to go over a couple things today.
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Matthew Lillard has been announced to be joining the cast
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of Superman Man of Tomorrow, which is.
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Is that official? Yes, he just announced it like 2
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days ago that he's going to be in the movie.
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They don't know. They're not saying who he's
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going to be, but this is there. A lot of people are saying that
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this is the Matthew Lillard renaissance.
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Oh, 100%. So Matthew Lillard, if you don't
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know the actor, he was one of the guys in Scream.
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Yeah, the original Scream. Yeah, not to spoil it for you,
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but he's one of the killers. Yeah, he's one of the killers,
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but like, he's got one of the best lines in the whole
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franchise and it's proved, Yeah, and he was.
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Also Shaggy. He was also.
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Shaggy. And the scooby-doo thing and
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Shaggy killed his career. He said that he got typecast and
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that nobody wanted anything to do with him.
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He. Played such a good high ghost
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hunter. Fabulous as Shaggy and he said
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his career completely tanked like, whereas like Freddie
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Prince, Junior Cher, Michelle Gellar, like all of them kind of
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didn't work again after those movies.
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That's interesting. I didn't think about that.
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Yeah, it was like the end. Of that Prince was done.
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I thought that he was. They were all kind of done and
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like, but whatever. And he has been gone from the
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scene for forever and he's been doing conventions occasionally
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where he'd pop up or whatever, and he's always so lovely in all
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these interactions with these fans.
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He seems like such a really nice guy, yeah.
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And then for whatever reason, he got cast in Five Nights at
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Freddy's, which is like a very kind of, I want to say low
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budget because it kind of was a low budget film.
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Yeah. Underground.
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Underground, Like, not a lot of people.
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It's really, really popular with tweens and kids.
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So like all the kids and teenagers?
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No idea who he. Was no idea who he was, but he
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like the parents, I think that went to go see it were like, Oh
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my gosh, it's Matthew Lillard. Like haven't seen that guy in
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forever. So he started doing a lot of
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press for that movie and again, just proved him to be like this
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very lovely, lovely person. Didn't somebody say something
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bad about him? Yes.
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Somebody came out and it was like he he was like, what the
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hell are you attacking me for? Was that?
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Because Quin Tarantino came out and said that he didn't like a
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lot of people. But did he say Matthew?
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Lillard. It was Matthew Lillard.
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Yeah, let me. Because there was another one
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that he said that he didn't like and everyone was kind of like,
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hey man, why are you picking on this one particular person?
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Tarantino criticized Lillard's acting along with others, which
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Lillard initially admitted was humbling and hurt but later
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described the resulting public support as beautiful.
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Yeah, OK, so Quentin Tarantino said he sucked or something.
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Like, yeah, like out of nowhere. He just said I don't care for
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Matthew Lillard. And it was like everybody was
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like, at that point he was kind of beloved already and then the
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people rallied behind him and so he did.
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Five Nights at Freddy 2 literally had 20 seconds in it.
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Skeet Ulrich again, the other killer from Scream appeared in
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Five Nights at Freddy's, so they must be friends.
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He had like 3 lines. And so we've just been seeing
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him pop up. He's in the new Daredevil.
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And you're like. He's part of the and like the
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MCU at this point, he's part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe,
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and now he's going to be joining the DC Universe.
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He's been coming up and popping up.
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So like, and we saw him yesterday because we started
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watching Daredevil. Yeah.
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And we're like, oh, it's Matthew Lilley.
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We're like, oh, we like that guy.
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I know everyone has to see him reaction.
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To see him being like, he's just, he's just popping up like
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now that you've heard of him, if you, if you didn't realize it,
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he's going to pop up in your life now and you'd be like, is
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that Matthew Lilley? What the heck?
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I mean, he's more popular now at 45 or however old he was than he
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was at 20. Like he's he's doing these
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humongously big projects now that are franchise films where
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like he's going to be one of those guys that's like he's in
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everything now. Oh, but yeah, I mean.
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If he's in. The end to you and the DC
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Universe. You know how all those movies
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are connected? Like it's not the end.
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You're going to see him in everything.
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I haven't seen the end of the show.
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Like, I guess Daredevils over. We just started watching, yeah.
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I mean, but he's in, that's all I.
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Care about he's in it. I don't know if he's going to be
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in the next. That's true.
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Yeah, it's true. That's true.
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So I. Don't know but it's cool to see
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him acting again. He seems like a nice.
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Guy, but even the dead people they bring back, don't get me
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started on that. That's true.
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I saw this list of societal norms that people are ignoring
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now, and I thought this would be just kind of a fun conversation.
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So if you can think of a societal norm that you are no
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longer following, like things that you're expected to do and
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you're like, Nah, I'm not going to do that anymore.
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Drop it in the comments. Starting off, for example, I no
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longer eat 3 meals a day at standard times.
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I just eat when I'm hungry and without calling it like a
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specific time. That's probably probably pretty
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good. Probably.
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I also don't subscribe to eating breakfast foods at breakfast,
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Yes. Like I will have lasagna at 7:00
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in the morning. I don't care.
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Yeah, I think the we're the pizza generation.
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Like cold pizza in the morning. Perfect 100%.
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Another one was my husband and I have separate bedrooms we have
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for years. We get the best sleep.
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A lot of people have that now. Which is something that you
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would want like how, how does it feel like if I don't know, I
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think we're raised on traditional like that.
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And so it would feel weird to me.
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But I know that you probably sleep better with me not.
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That I don't know at this point, I we don't go to sleep at the
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same time. And I think that that might be a
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Sidal norm because a lot of people are like, oh, I think
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that's horrible. You're drifting apart.
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And it's like, no, because as long as I'm asleep before you
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come in, like I have a good night's sleep.
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It's the snoring and stuff. Even with the mouth garden,
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really, sometimes, yeah, that like it will wake, it will wake
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me up or it will keep me awake if I don't fall asleep.
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Yeah, I've I got a mouth guard. I don't know if this one's as
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good as the last one, but I it's I feel like it does OK.
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It does OK, it does fine. Again.
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I gotta be asleep first before you even come in.
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All right, saying bless you when people sneeze.
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Like, what are we doing? Yeah.
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Can we? Get rid of that.
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I I don't know what else to say. How Nothing.
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Yeah, can I just say nothing like?
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Yeah, like it's like, it's like somebody burping and then you
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being like, oh, sue you. Yeah, it's like, just just stop,
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OK? Like they didn't want to sneeze.
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Yeah, like especially Someone Like You who sneezes 20 times in
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a row. Like I can't say bless you every
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time. So I wait till the end.
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I go. I go, oh God, look who's looking
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for attention over here. It's like.
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Yeah, but then, like, if I don't say it, I feel like I'm a Dick.
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Yeah. So I'm like, yeah, it is totally
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it now. It is totally a societal norm.
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Like I have to say it. So I'm you know what I'm gonna
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stop saying? I stopped.
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I don't care. Yeah, I don't know.
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You made it. You've survived.
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You're fine. There's lots of tutorials on
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fitted sheets and how to fold them.
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Yeah, I don't do it, I don't care.
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I know that you've tried to fold the fitted.
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Sheets I fold the fitted sheets I well, but it isn't a square at
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the end of it. It's not hold.
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Up stopped caring. I just fold it like a sheet and
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same with my underwear and anything else that goes in a
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drawer. I don't fold anything that goes
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in a drawer. Yeah, the wrinkles have never
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bothered me. Yeah.
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I don't care. No, it doesn't bother.
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I hang my shirts. Yeah, and that's pretty much it.
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Everything else. And then I only put my socks
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together because I don't want to be hunting for socks.
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Exactly. Yeah, that's not some.
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It's just organization at. This point, if I could, I would
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just throw them all in a drawer, but they have they're different.
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Yeah, exactly. I can't do that.
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So yeah, let's just societal norm that you no longer.
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Follow I don't really wear makeup a lot anymore.
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OK, I kind of gave up. I don't think, I don't ever
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remember you being makeup heavy. I've never been makeup heavy.
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It's always been really light. Today, if you're watching on
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YouTube, I'm not wearing a stitch of makeup.
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I know it's terrible. I can tell.
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I definitely think there's color correction that needs to happen
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on my face. But like in the morning when I'm
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getting up at 6:00 AM to go see a client, like the last thing I
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do is put on makeup. And I sort of feel like as the
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therapist, I have a great profession where I don't have to
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wear makeup. That's a.
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Good point I. Feel like it would be weird.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Like, especially if I do wear makeup, it's like some
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foundation and some mascara. That's it.
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Yeah. I don't come in with like a red
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lip and a bold cat eye, but that would be weird, right?
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Well, it's, I think it's, I've always not been a fan of makeup.
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So I think that any more than what you wear is kind of already
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too much for me. Yeah.
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Like, I know that it's a thing. Women love it.
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Yeah. And that's fine.
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Like I gave up wearing eyeshadow like a long time ago.
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I was just like, no, this feels like an unnecessary step, I
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don't care. Yeah, well, you woke up at 4:00
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in the morning for 20 years. That's true.
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Yeah. And so at some point, you're
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just like I'm. I'm whatever.
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What are we doing here? He's like.
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Who cares? Now we're on camera, so it's.
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Different. I know I should try.
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But no, you mean you do great. And then as far as on that note,
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I've stopped like trimming my eyebrows.
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Did you ever? I did used to like I used to
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care if there was some here or here.
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That's going to be a problem then, Nick, if you start getting
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a unibrow, I'm going to have an issue.
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Oh really? Yeah.
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So I'm naturally letting everything just land where it
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lands. I know.
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Although I will say, I will say my Barber Zoe over at her brand
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new Barber shop. By the way, Swan Barbers, if you
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didn't notice yesterday, I didn't get any comments.
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I got a beautiful haircut. Thank you.
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She always trims me up so she'll go through and like trim my
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eyebrows down. She doesn't count.
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I know she doesn't black. In the middle I gave up on it,
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except I have it done every three weeks.
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Talking. About I have a professional do
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it for me but she doesn't pull them.
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I just don't bother anymore. She just I'm a man of just
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letting everything just go out except for the professionals
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letting it for me. She.
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Just shortens them. She doesn't like, she doesn't
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clean the edges up. Like they're all down here and
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over here and so like, but so you used to occasionally pulling
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out. Of I know well, I'm going to
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have to trim the middle if it becomes an issue.
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With, well, I mean, you haven't even noticed because you don't
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get. I try not to look directly at
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you. As we all know.
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And that's what makes sense. So yeah, on your professional
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therapist side, I wanted to, I wanted to talk about this.
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It's hard to to get across what I'm trying to say.
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So I'm going to see if it comes. Out hurtful.
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I'm going to see if you who are listening can understand what
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I'm trying to say. So I can't imagine Kristen as a
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professional. Like, in my mind, there is
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nothing professional about Kristen and her being a
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therapist. I finally thought about it the
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other day because she was putting, she's putting together
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like, a pitch for an idea she has to, like, send out to
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people. And she's reaching out to these
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big wigs in business and stuff like that and just bringing this
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whole professional thing to them.
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And it's like, I am so unprofessional in everything
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that I do. And I'm so, yeah, I don't know
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how to do anything professionally.
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I feel awkward doing it and I have to like have Kristen write
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professional letters for me, which makes sense because she's
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the smart one. But it dawned on me after she
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showed me this thing that she is a professional marriage and
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family therapist and it blows my mind to see her like
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professionally, I don't know. How many times can you say
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professional row? Well, it's like because you're
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such the person I talk to on the radio all the time and like
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we're you're not that person, but you are at the same time
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like you've always been a well. Organized spoken person.
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I'm articulate an intelligent. Smart, intelligent, but like, I
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know the side of you, that's not all that.
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Sure, because people are are layered.
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I know. And it's so to see you talk like
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that and then like dress profession, it's like, who the
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hell are you? Like I can't imagine you doing
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that. And so it kind of blows my mind
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and it's a little hot. Oh, well, thank you.
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I appreciate it. Yeah, you said that to me and I
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was just like, and and now I get it.
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Like I wasn't offended or anything like that.
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And. And then you.
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Know my unprofessional speak. You know, I know you're, you're
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a dumb ass, so I'll just go with it, you know?
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Non professional. Yeah, sorry.
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But yeah, like it, yes, I understand that it must be weird
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for you because you were asking questions like, well, what if
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they have problems? Because I would be teaching like
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communication skills from like marriage and family therapist
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for like a business. And you're like, well, what if
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they have questions about it? And I'd be like, well, I'd
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answer them. Yeah.
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And you were like, but how will you know the answers?
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I'm like, because I have a masters degree in it.
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And that's like, what do you mean if I don't know the
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answers? Like, I was going through.
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I'm like, oh man, I hope she doesn't get like stumped by
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these people in these. Like, what if they have real
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issues? Like, oh wait, she does this.
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She knows how to do it. Like she knows how.
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To handle educated and specialized in this one
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particular field. She does this everyday.
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This is. All I do.
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Yeah. And I don't get to see that and
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you brought that. Up.
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That's what that's what's wild to me because we have been
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working together side by side for damn near 15 years, maybe
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even more than that at this point.
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And so you understand Kristen's work environment and like what
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it's like, but you will never see me as a therapist.
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Never. You will never.
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Experience therapist. I can't watch you be a
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therapist. You will never see what I'm like
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as a therapist. And that's a really weird thing
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for me because you're all, I'm always open with you.
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You've seen how I work for so many years.
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Like we've always worked together.
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We know how each other work. And like, there's this huge part
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of my life now that you will never know.
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It's weird. And it's so strange, like.
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Yeah, like you said, I've, I've known every part of you like
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I've worked and play with you. So it's like, I know, I know who
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you are all the time. And like accountants can come
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home and they can show off the spreadsheets or they can do the
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tax. This is with the like and be
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like, oh, this is what I do at work or whatever, Come see my
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office and like hang out and like, hey, like whatever.
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But like I can never do that. Like I can't show you client
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notes. I can't talk to you about my
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clients. Like you ask me how my day is
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and I'm like, it's fine. You know, like, oh, had a tough
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day, but I'm good now or whatever.
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Like you will never hear, you know, because, because it's like
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HIPAA. Like you can't.
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Like you can't talk about it and you can't, it's not like I can
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just have you in the room with me and be like, oh, my husband
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wants to see me as a therapist. Like he'll never, you'll never
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see. This bring your husband to work
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day like there's nothing. I mean, you did it because I'm a
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marriage and family thing. Exactly so she.
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Gets to be here. Mine gets to be here.
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I can I take notes? I want to take notes.
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Oh yeah. It's like it's super weird.
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And is there anything, I don't think there's anything like that
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for me, for you. Like, you know, everything I do,
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how I do, everything you can see behind the scenes of everything,
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like even with like my video and photo and stuff like that.
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Does it ever? Like, does it ever blow your
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mind that I'm good at what I do? No, because I've seen the effort
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that you put in behind it. It's like, yeah, it's where you
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know you. See everything I know that you
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spend hours at night like researching how to make better
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videos or taking AI classes and I know I know that about you.
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So I don't have to like be in the editing pod while you do it
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because I see the work that you put out and so on and I
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understand how you're getting there.
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I've seen the transitions from when you first started doing
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video to how you're doing it now, and just the incredible
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progression and progress that there's made.
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You don't see that with me. You'll never.
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See, you'll never know what it was like with my first client
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versus how I am now. Like you'll never know.
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It's kind of sad. And you've never read any of my
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papers or any of my research. No, I meant like for school,
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like you've never read any of my reports or like my my thesis
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papers on anything. Like, because why would you like
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that would be super boring. Well, yeah, I don't understand
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any of it. It's like you've never read the
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textbooks that I've read. So we can't talk about it.
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Like it's just there's a huge chunk of my life now.
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You will never be a part. Of there's a whole education
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that you have you. Can't share.
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With them. That was so weird.
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We're drifting apart, is what you're telling me.
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Ever since we've been fired, you we're drifting.
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Well, there is a kind of a part of me that it's like, oh, this
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is, you know, is this what other couples go through?
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And the fact that we've, we've worked in tandem for, for over a
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decade, maybe 2. And then now to not have that,
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like it does feel like, Oh, well, he doesn't know what I do
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and he doesn't, you know, there is.
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Kind of like separate people that come together at the end of
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the day, and it's never been our relationship, but I think it's a
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lot of people. So it's no, I know.
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So it's like this is what everybody goes through.
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And I think This is why people say, used to say to us like when
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we're on the air, like, oh, I could never work with my spouse
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because they've never done it, whereas like we've never done
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the opposite. I.
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Could never not work with. It I know, but now I can, and
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it's hard, you know? It's weird, boring.
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Just in here by myself now. I know, but that's why we have
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this. Yeah, I know.
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This is still something for us to do.
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Together, keeping our marriage together because once we drift
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apart, hang. On by a string.
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Why would we come back together? Like what?
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What do we have in common, really, when you break it down?
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Yeah. Like what is it that still
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connects us? And so like, we have to continue
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to keep working on that. That's from a therapist.
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Please subscribe, God, all right, But thank you for
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watching, all right.