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It's thirty eight. All bills can win in here, Wake puts it down.
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The kick is on the way and dock m the bell good one?
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record on the line right here, quick kicking, look excited. Touchdown Kyle
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me on Twitter at pro Underscore Underscore. That's pro two Underscores A and t
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in tonight's episode of Disguise coverage. We've been bringing things full circle these past
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couple of weeks. Last week we had on mister Bruce Nolan to go through
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the grades or the Buffaloville's twenty twenty four draft class, really evaluating the players
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in terms of who they are in a vacuum, but also grating and evaluating
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their fit within the team and some long term projection and things like that.
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He was on earlier in this offseason talking about what the Bills needed to do
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going into the draft, and my guest tonight also is kind of in that
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mold in terms of bringing things full circle. I did an episode several weeks
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ago or maybe a month ago, I don't know. Everything blends together at
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this point where I had this guest on and we talked about looking at the
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Buffalo Bills draft needs and their potential draft class through the eyes of an enemy.
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What do opponents not want the Bills to get? Who do opponents not
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want them to get? What do they not want them to address? So
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on and so forth. And now that the draft has happened, I thought
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it would find to invite that guest back to kind of put a nice little
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bow on this twenty twenty four draft class, but also the Bills roster as
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a whole and kind of give an outlook in terms of who they are and
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what they are through the enemy's eyes and from an enemy's perspective. And with
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that being said, I welcome to the stage, mister Taylor, Kyle's Patriots
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beat reporter and a person who I enjoy kind of talking ball with and hanging
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out with. Taylor, thank it for King of the Time, Welcome to
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the show. Thank you, buddy. Good to be back. Every time
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you do the intro, I smile. I just it is the absolute best
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in the business. But uh, good to be back, buddy. It's
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been too long. What was it like two entire weeks? I think that's
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what you know. What's funny is I was gonna do like a longer like
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intro for you of like, oh he does this, and I kind of
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want to be like he was just here like three weeks ago, so everybody
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shoul already know who he is. It's funny you mentioned the intro like certain
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I get a lot of positive comments on it, but there's some people that
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hate it, Like well, I turned in to watch football and you're talking
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about like witches and muggles. I don't even know what that is, Like
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this show sucks, and I'm like, all right, I don't know why
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you're so angry. And then other people that are like I only watched the
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show for the intro, and I'm like, Okay, that's cool, but
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also kind of hurtful because like that's not the main part. But whatever,
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Like it's it's funny how I get it from both ends. Most people like
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it, but I'll get YouTube comments at times, or like people on Reddit
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will be like, what's that intro? I thought this was football? And
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then I try to like troll them and go art. I'm like, oh,
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you don't know what a muggle is? Do you not know what like
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how important they are to like a Cover two defense? But that's just me
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clearly that part of your audience is not gonna like this episode because I am
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surrounded by comic book, superhero movie memorabilia and I could not be happier.
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So I get the same comments where sometimes people are just like, what the
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hell, that's not football stuff in the back, I'm like, I got
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it, Tom Brady, so please leave me all that. That's probably I
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have one, Tom Brady Funkal Pop. Yeah, oh yeah, the Man
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the Roast. I didn't watch it. I I saw some clips. I
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don't even want to get into that that niche aspect of it. I do
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want to ask you one cool question before we dive into it, in terms
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of looking at this Bill's roster, what do you think of I guess the
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kind of like fire to the smoke that multiple people have confirmed with like the
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Bills not wanting to trade with the Patriots and the Patriots potentially wanting Keon Coleman
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and maybe wanting to move up there. Bills fans, we're all up are
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still up in it, tither about like trading with Kansas City and giving Kansas
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City somebody they wanted, And then that Patriot story came out and now they're
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like, oh, so you wouldn't do a deal with the Patriots because they're
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the Patriots, but you do a deal with Kansas City even though it's like
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kind of different. What are your thoughts though on that in terms of like
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the Patriots or the Bills kind of like blocking the Patriots from kind of getting
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what they wanted. In essence, is this if this exavier worthy to the
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chief thing works out the way we think it's going to the Bills. Need
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to freaking stop trading with the Jeeves. It's ridiculous at this point. Just
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like learn your lesson, doesn't matter if it's irrational, just like give yourself
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up ever again. Yeah. Now, so I had Cameron Wolf actually on
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Pat Staley and he was talking about what the trade scenarios were. Now,
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I do think that Xavier would get you know, was my guy. I
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also will get my bragging rights in bro I kind of nailed some of their
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picks. I was on Jabon Baker. I was so mad about Baker.
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I'm so mad you are. I was maybe even happier. I saw the
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Bills guys who were like no, I saw Eric did the whole video on
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him. I watched it and you're like, it's like, yeah, he
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is a good player, great job Eric, Oh my heart people. But
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yeah, I don't it would make sense if Keon Coleman was their guy after
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laged, because I think he does give you that rare size that like I
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felt like like Legett and Keon Coleman were kind of rare athletes in terms of
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like we talked about, Lagett was the last guy and that pass Like Brian
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Thomas, he here where he had size and explosiveness whereas other guys had one
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or the other. Then key On it's like, well he's not super explosive,
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but he's more athletic than people getting credit for and he's huge, so
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he just gives you that body type that you don't really see very often.
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Now, I was very happy with the Patriots picks after that. I think,
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like Jalen Polk, you could argue like they have some overlaps in terms
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of like the position of versatility where maybe want them at one spot all the
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time, but they can get involved in the run game, the well rounded
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bys, their high energy, they catch everything, all that kind of stuff.
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So yeah, I do believe that what it was told to me from
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Campbell was that the Bills had a handshake agreement with the Patriots then used that
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to shop the offer to the Panthers and we're like, hey, we don't
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want to trade with our division rival. I want to get back into the
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first round. And then the thing that everybody thought was gonna happen, where
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the Panthers hot back into the first round and get leget happened. Now,
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honestly, I wasn't even upset because I was saying that was the one team
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I wanted him to go to. He gets Here's family and like the acts
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and everything, it is so perfect. I did want that Carolina connection with
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South Carolina to get North Carolina Drake May. It was not meant to be.
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But yeah, the Keon Coleman part, I'm still a little iffy on,
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especially because now reports are leaning more towards Laget. But I do believe
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that the Bills were basically just using the Patriots to try to find the like
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structure for another trade and get that done with the Panthers. Also just a
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juicy storyline, so I'm gonna leave it disprove it. I wrote down the
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timestamp when you started talking about this. That's one hundred percent one of the
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promo things I'm gonna use going forward in this episode because I know it's just
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and I get the nature of it. Like I, I don't want to
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help Kansas City, and I also really liked Xavier Worthy. Worthy was my
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wide receiver four. But despite that, I see both sides of it.
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You don't want to make your opponents stronger, but at the end of the
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day, you still want to make whatever move you think is best for you
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to make your team as good as it can be. And so I understand
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the notion of, no, you still should have just taken comb In there
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and don't help out Kansas City, But then you don't have the third round
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pick, and who knows, maybe Kansas City gets Worthy anyway, and you're
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not really like necessarily preventing anything. Maybe they trade up to twenty nine.
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Maybe Worthy is still there at the end of the first like there's all these
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scenarios. But yeah, it's just I just thought it was so funny to
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see that because so many it was that right. It wasn't even just that
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a receiver got taken at twenty eight because a lot of some Bills fans wanted
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Worthy. I really think it was. It was down to by the time
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Night one rolled around, it was between Brian Thomas, Worthy and the get
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some combination of those three different percentages. I think if Bills most bill Stans
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had their choice, it would have been Brian Thomas second most is probably the
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get, and then Worthy is closer to the get there and then number three.
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And so not only did the Bills trade out of Night one twice,
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but then two receivers went in each of those spots, and the two receivers
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then went were guys that Bills fans really wanted. And then on top of
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that, one of those teams was the Chiefs. Like, if the Chiefs
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had traded up and took like a linebacker or a safety, like, I
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don't think Bills fans would have cared as much. They still probably would have
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cared because it's the Chiefs. But if it was some other team who traded
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up for Worthy or some other team who traded up for anything else, there
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were so many ways where it could have just been mitigated. But yeah,
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that night one was just fire and chaos and anger because of trading up with
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the chief or letting the Chiefs trade up and get their guy, adding another
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speed elm to the offense. And then so that story and the debate was
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all like, oh, well, who cares, Like, you just got
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to make your team better, you can't worry about that. So then to
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hear the Patriots stuff come out, it just opened that wound and everybody was
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just like, well, well why would so you won't you won't, you
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won't do that to the Chiefs, but you'll do that to the Patriots,
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like why there was just a lot of like stops like start and go,
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stutter like thoughts of and yeah, I saw man, Yeah, that was
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a really great episode when he had cam Wolf on. And as soon as
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I saw that, I was like, oh no, because the first thought
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that went in my brain was everybody's gonna juxtapose to to and be like,
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so you didn't want to help the past, but you were cool to help
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the Chiefs, like what the hell? And man, man, if you're
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gonna help one rival, maybe help the rival that's not so good right now,
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doesn't have Patrick Mahomes now, Yeah, but then I don't know it's
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your damn if you do damn if you don't like what m is, if
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you traded with the Pats and Drake May is the truth right away and the
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Patriots go like twelve and five this year or something like that, And then
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you're even more so like, oh, look, you help the Patriots turn
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it around, like look what you did. And also too, I forgot
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or maybe I have not forgot this. I didn't know this. I was
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reading I forgot the year before the Chiefs. I shouldn't say forget. I
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didn't forget because I didn't know this. The year before the Chiefs got Patrick
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Mahomes, they wanted Paxton Lynch in the first round and yeah, and they
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didn't get them because the Broncos now him like one pick before. And then
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the year after the Chiefs traded up and got Mahomes. All these little like
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it's funny, just those little strings and breadcrumbs of things that if you pull
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one away, like the how it can change the future. I think about
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that all the time with like, especially with the dynasty that resulted for you
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guys, Like if Tom Brady fumbled that friggin ball, the tuck rule is
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not a thing, And if the Pats lose that game, I'm like,
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oh my god, Like what how the course of NFL history changes? And
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the bigger one with that that everyone forgets about. Brady got hurt in the
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AFC Championship game against the Steelers, Drew Bledsoe came in and helped them win
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that game. Troy Brown also had a punt return touchdown in that game.
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Fun back, in case anybody cares, so, I'd always think about all
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those let alone, the bigger piece of if mo Lewis doesn't not Drew Bledsoe
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out YadA YadA. What if Belichick doesn't go to the pass he stays with
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the Jets, YadA YadA. But like all those little moments of like if
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you just remove this one thing, how it greatly changes the course of history.
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And I think of the Tuck rule, and then I think of,
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yeah, what if the Chiefs had gotten Patrick Lint Paxton Lynch instead of Pat
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Mahomes, Like wow, that changes things? Man, just like Homes.
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So I can't even act like I would have brewed against that. I really
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do think the Chiefs are like the most likable dynasty team in terms of like
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you, No, I mean not so unlikable. Mahomes are unlikable. You
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know you think Mahomes and the Chiefs are likable, especially now with the Taylor
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Swift stuff. They're so unlikable. I think I love Travis Kelcey. I'm
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whole like, oh these not grugged Like I think it's a stupid conversation.
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I think Kelsey sweetfferent positions like I love to there with Swift stuff, I
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love love. I think I can't believe I had you on this show.
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I'm so disappointed in who you are as a person right now. Invite hey,
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you get tay Baby. I'm sorry, that's fair. You do you
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have to like her because we have the same name. I feel like you
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have to go like you think. I didn't even think about it that way,
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but yeah, we'll go with that. Taylor Daniel die baby. That's
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right. I will say some fun other little nuggets that came out today.
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Adam Schefter had Elliot Wolf on his podcast today. Lewis was actually supposed to
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be a not supposed to be, but he was almost a Packer. The
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Packers were on the phone with him saying, we're about to draft you,
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and the Ravens either already were there. I think they were on the clock
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and they didn't think that ray Lewis is gonna be the choice. And then
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Belichick was the one who wanted ray Lewis. Belichick's draft plan was the one
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that the Ravens used in the first year that they were a team. It
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was all Belichick's draft plan. So, oh yeah, because they took Agen
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and ray Lewis exactly, so the Packers were going to try to draft ray
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Lewis. That was very nearly a thing. Also, if we're gonna talk
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about recent history, if Jayvon Baker and Jalen Polk end up being like the
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guys in this reset and their Drake Mays go to targets and they're putting up
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numbers. That's still kind of the Bill's fault because if they had just gotten
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the get, if they'd just gotten Coleman, then they might not have mood.
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They might not have been like, all right, we're gonna get Jalen
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Polk a little later, and then we're gonna get jayvon Baker because we traded
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up. So I know this is the Patch Show, but I'm just saying
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you could put some lame at the Bill's feet in this whole Patriots draft class
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goes well on offense. That makes me throw up. I don't know why
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you're here. You're out here throwing chiefs love and then people on this end
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after last year, that's fair real quick. So I looked up the nineteen
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ninety six NFL draft where ray Lewis went. So he went number twenty six
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to the Baltimore Ravens. The Green Bay Packers literally had the next pick at
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twenty seven, and they took John John Michael's offensive tackle out of USC who
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I've never heard of, so I'm imagining he didn't pan out that great.
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Yeah, what a crazy draft. Yeah, the Ravens got Jonathan Ogden at
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four and then ray Lewis at twenty six. And I never even thought of
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that idea of like them using Belichick's like draft plan, let alone knowing the
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Packers thing. Man, Like, can you I also wonder too, I'm
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I'm I'm a big proponent of the nature and nurture aspect of a player,
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and like just taking a player out of one team and dropping him into another,
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Like, I don't think that you get the same guy. Mahomes is
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a good example, right, Like he's tremendous. I don't know. I
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don't think anybody can know. You can't definitely say one way or another.
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He becomes the same Patrick Mahomes if he goes to the Bills at that pick
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instead of the Bills trading out like he had Alex. He learned behind Alex
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Smith for a year, he had Andy Reid and the Enemy And even though
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people make fun of Naggy, Naggi was a good offensive mine and coordinator under
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him, and then he got to work with Kelsey and Hill and this offensive
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line like dropping him into the chaos that was the Bills at that time.
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I don't know if he necessarily becomes that guy, but man like and it'd
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be tough for like, I don't know if ray Lewis reaches those same heights.
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But the Packers in ninety six they were nasty and they were going on
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those Super Bowl runs and being one of the best teams in the NFL.
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You imagine dropping ray Lewis into those Packers teams that were like the teams of
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the late nineties with farms and yeah, they were a couple. Yeah,
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they lost in ninety I think they went that year because they lost in ninety
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eight to the Broncos because the Packers went back to back. They beat the
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Pats and then beat or the beat They beat the Patriots and then lost to
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the Broncos. The Broncos beat them and then also beat the Falcons the year
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after, So we had multiples. I for oh man, this is the
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classic US. This is but this is a this is also a fun episode,
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like to do you know what I'm gonna I'm also real quick. I
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was thinking about it, like all the guys that Patrick Mahomes had early on
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in his career, you know who, he didn't have that would have been
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ridiculous. Jamaal Charles, it's still been there for a couple of years,
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and oh that would have been terrifying. With the young Tyreek, like wasn't
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the guy yet but was still very clearly one of those dangerous people in football
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Kelsey, Jamal Charles and a young Mahomes terrifying. This is I'm going to
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We're gonna do an episode, especially it will come the dead time of the
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year when there's nothing like happening like this offseason, and we're gonna do the
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greatest like what ifs this just won a good episode. You can pick anything
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you want and just change it and then like again picking the breadcrumbs of what
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happens. Oh yeah, that's a really good one. That's your Jeffrey right
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to do the intro. Nice look at you, You're just spawning all these
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kinds of ideas. I like it, even though you were mean and you
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co signed the chief I really, I mean, I don't know if any
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dynasty is likable, and I wasn't around for like the Cowboys dynasties and the
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Steelers dynasties, and then I think the Niners dynasty is the most likable.
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Who hates Joe Montana and Jerry Rice like and Bill Walsh nobody fair, but
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then that's it. But everybody hates Cowboys fans, so no one cares so
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that it's like it's the way I just I think majority of people think Mahomes
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is unlikable, but maybe that's just me. I respect them. I think
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he's voice, Like what does anyone have to all of it? It's the
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voice, it's the mannerisms. It's losing the Bills in the regular season and
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being like, I don't I don't know how you make that call because it's
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a penalty. The truly unlikable thing I think maybe ever really done as a
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pro where I was like, all right, pat you gotta yes, not
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it like even I'm assuming Eric's talking about Joe Burrow, like I like the
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Bengals have had the Bills number. I think Joe Burrow is awesome. I
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love Joe Burrow. I can't stand Mahomes like, I just think he's so
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unlikable. And I don't know it's because the Patriots don't really have any beef
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with the Chiefs. I think maybe that's it. It just hasn't really not
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in that person. But I love. Yes, I think you can hate
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Andy Reid. Andy Reid his and and spags like everybody should love Andy Reid's
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bags. They're awesome. Like oh and I forgot Yeah, Joe Montana is
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the original Joe Cool. Okay, call Joe Toney. I mean he's but
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he is a lovable guy. And I know I shouldn't. I should hate
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him because he's a pet, but he's fine. Yeah, oh, I
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love this, Sessminar says. But it's the off season. So where do
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you stand on k Divers Drizzy Drake Drake M Drake is a pop artist who
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does rap. He is not built to stand in the arena with Kendrick And
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I think Drake's first response was fine, but he opened up the flood gate
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like he's just not built to box with God like that, and that's what
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Kendrick is. Kendrick is one of legitimately the best lyricists like ever. I
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think Kendrick murked him, and I know there's different little things coming out of
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like and and I also think Drake's second response was not good at all,
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like it just yeah, I think I think Kendrick wiped the floor with him.
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But I'm a huge you've seen me, it's always sunny with the Beato.
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It's just like that's yeah, and Macus like, that's literally the last
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thing. That's the last thing you want to do. If you do that,
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you're gonna make everybody think that you did do that. And people were
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making that joke the night before, and then Drake came out with that track.
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Yeah, Laura nails it right here, Yet Drake got sunned. Worst
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bite name dropping Millie Bobby Brown where it's like bro guilty conscience Bud sounds real
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bad. Did you see the meme and that we're gonna get into this episode
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of pologies apologies everyone? Did you see somebody put the meme of have you
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seen the second Doctor Strange? I'm assuming yeah, when he shows up to
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Elizabeth Olsen and he's like talking to her, trying to get her to like
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help her out or help him out, like with the girl, and then
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she accidentally name drops like oh yeah, Erica like blah blah blah blah,
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and then she pauses and she's like you didn't tell me her name, did
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you? And Doctor Strange's like nope, people did that of being like Drake
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saying like or kider saying like, oh, you're this, and Ben Drake's
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like I never touched Withe Bobby Brown and then him stopping and being like you
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never you never said her name, did you? That's exactly what it was.
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Or just like bro just he had a few pretty bad slip ups in
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that. There was a one where like he misunderstood an entire salt yeah from
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mother I sober. Yeah, he completely bad, like bad subject matter.
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If you're gonna bumble, can't be that. So yeah, I'm not big
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into like rap beefs or anything. I'm just watching a lot of YouTube videos
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to make sure I like thoroughly am involved in all. I'm huge into rap
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beefs, Like I love rapping hip hop and like I just I love that
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I just missed ninety stuff of like if you played sports, everybody hated each
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other. If you were in music you like and you had beef, you
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hated everybody was and everybody was friends. So I just like the sport of
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rap coming back. I don't want anybody to get like shot like what would
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happened in the nineties, but yeah, and give me some more of that
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too in sports. I don't want to hear like, oh no, me
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and my biggest rival a friends. We have the same strength and conditioning coach.
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We work out together. No, I want Michael Jordan level of like.
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No, I hate that guy and I'm going to put him in the
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dirt because we're enemies forever. This is a good comment that I never thought
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of. So Lord Quarterback says wrong. If you were a Bills fan in
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the eighties and nineties, you feel the same about the forty nine Ers dynasty.
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Every one of us was sick of Montana and Rice. Oh that's fair.
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I also like to get old it, just like you don't want to
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keep seeing the same Like I didn't felt that way with the Chiefs. I'm
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like, I'm very happy for them. I am, But now I get
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why people don't really No, And it's the the Harvey dentline from The Dark
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Knight. You either die here or live long enough to see yourself become the
21:33
villain. Everybody's cool with like, oh, the plucky upstarts, and then
21:34
at a certain point it's like, ugh, like you want again, we
21:38
hate you. Yeah, I think it's just I love this wholesome comment from
21:41
Roy saying that he misses Abbas the man I took my wife to see Mama
21:45
Mia live here, which was awesome. So shout out to Abba. My
21:49
wife will enjoy that. Shout out. All Right, we've gone so off
21:53
the rails. But this is super fun. I'm a going to do this
21:56
what if episode down the pike all right now, Yeah, this is really
22:00
fun. I don't even want to talk football because this has been such a
22:02
great conversation. I'd even remember we were here for football to be out and
22:04
I honestly forgot. I clicked the banner and I was like, oh,
22:07
yeah, that's right, that's what we're here for. All right. So
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the Buffalo Bill is twenty twenty four Draft class through and enemies eyes through the
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perspective of the opponent, however you want to label it, folks, if
22:17
you don't know and weren't aware. I had Taylor on several weeks ago before
22:21
the draft happened, with the idea of doing Actually, I did this episode
22:25
last year too with Matt Lane from the Casey Sports Network of looking at the
22:29
Bills and their potential needs through the draft through an enemy's eyes, through the
22:33
eyes of an opponent. So who do you not want the Bills to get?
22:37
What do you not want them to get. So Taylor had specific things
22:40
and specific players that he did not want the Bills to get and or address
22:45
certain needs things like that. So now the draft is done, I brought
22:48
Taylor back to look at those things, and I think it's a cool exercise.
22:52
I think a lot of times we look at the team that you cover
22:56
or the team that you're a fan of, You're often looking at them from
22:57
an insider perspective, and I think it's nice to get this view from kind
23:00
of like the you know, view from above or the outsider perspective here.
23:03
So we're gonna start with the first piece here, Taylor. And it was
23:07
no surprise. This was your number one thing you did not want the Buffalo
23:10
Bills to get that quote unquote X receiver. The three names you mentioned were
23:14
Brian Thomas Junior, mister A. D Mitchell, and your boy Xavier lagett
23:18
Or. I guess it's legat now, which always drives me nuts. I
23:19
feel like guys changed their name. What is it? I so, I
23:23
I do this every year for names I don't know. I always look up
23:27
interviews from them in college, and every single person who did anything with them,
23:32
said laget Leget Legett, and then Goodell said lee get and then apparently
23:37
the Panthers put out a tweet that said it's pronounced leg at. So I'm
23:41
just gonna call him Xavier L from now on. We'll just go with that.
23:44
But so you mentioned wild names in this draft plot. Dude, did
23:47
you know that Javon Polk it's not Polk, it's poke like ook. And
23:51
Javon Baker is Javon Baker. Every time I say their names, I see
23:56
them in my head because I'm trying to repeat it. Like there's a lot
23:59
of names that be throw. I thought it was one hundred. I thought
24:02
it was Javon Baker, and I thought it was Jayden Polk like not not
24:03
poke like poke like I'm trying to pronounce like yo. So it's yoke like,
24:07
it's poke like yo. This is very man, This is very interesting,
24:11
all right. So we're gonna we're gonna get sidetracked. We're gonna we'll
24:14
get to it eventually. So the Bills did get an X. Well,
24:18
depending on how you view it, some fans still think he's a power slot.
24:22
Some people think he's not built to be that guy. But long in
24:25
the short of it, as we talked earlier, the Bills trade out of
24:26
the first round twice. They end up with the first pick in the second
24:30
round, and they take mister key On Coleman, wide receiver out of Florida
24:33
State. So for you, Taylor, your biggest thing that you did not
24:37
want the Bills to come away with from this draft class with was that X
24:41
receiver. They get key On Coleman as an enemy, as an opponent.
24:45
Do you like that pick meaning bad for the Bills or do you hate it
24:49
and it bothers you meaning good for the Bills and the fans? How do
24:52
you feel knowing that Keyon Coleman is a Buffalo Bill? And especially for you
24:56
knowing that your biggest worry was the Bills coming out of this draft with an
25:00
X receiver. So considering the Pats have Gonzales, like that kind of gives
25:06
you a little more security. Like if you go into a game with a
25:08
good quarterback, you're like, yeah, it can't be that bad though,
25:11
you know, like we'll still have a shot. Keon is the kind of
25:15
guy where like I would say, Christian Gonzalez is both a good and a
25:18
bad matchup for him, because Gonzale is like going back to last summer.
25:22
He didn't really show this as much during the regular season, but in the
25:25
summer, DeVante Parker was eating his lunch every day like we go up high
25:30
point and make it catch over him. I even asked Mike Pelagreno, the
25:32
cornerbacks coach, like or is this the kind of thing where they're just working
25:36
on it, Like is Devonte giving him tips? And he was like,
25:37
yeah, because he's a young guy, he's got to learn how to use
25:41
his body, how to you know, be more competitive in those situations.
25:44
I think he's gonna continue to learn, which a lot. I think these
25:45
battles are going to be really fun. But I think Gonzo is gonna be
25:48
on his hip all the time, like I really do like Keona's because he's
25:53
not gonna be able to separate from exact in bigger in general, Like that's
25:57
gonna be his biggest challenge. Can he separate with regularity in the stem or
26:02
even at the catch point. It's because it's hard to do that consistently in
26:04
the NFL exactly. And I do think he can add little tricks to his
26:07
game where he can really use his size and physicality and maximize those so at
26:11
the top of routes. You are always like Gronk, You're always trying to
26:15
create contact because that's how you can just basically just like fling yourself off and
26:18
get separation. You need things like that where I think it could be more
26:22
fun as they get older and they get a little more experienced. But right
26:26
now, honestly, it doesn't move the needle for me a ton again because
26:29
the Patriots do have that number one corner where I'm like, you got to
26:32
put someone really scary in front of like Gonzalez for me to be like,
26:36
oh no, because as a rookie, he was playing like you've been in
26:38
the league already for ten years. So I do like Kean, I think
26:42
that he is going to have every game like two or three catches where you're
26:45
just like, happens. The guy's like six foot four, he's massive,
26:48
he catches everything. He's an outpha in that way, you know it's gonna
26:52
happen for Josh Allen, where you know he does this whole scramble thing and
26:55
he's throwing it up and just being like, hey, somebody down there win.
26:57
I think he and Matt Collins now we're the only guys where you really
27:00
trust in that kind of vein and that Collins obviously to a totally different extent.
27:04
But I like the fit. I'm not anxious. I'm excited to see
27:08
how he and Josh Allen do kind of pair together. I do think the
27:12
best way to use him is to make him versatile, especially because he's a
27:15
great blocker. Put him at Z and let him actually bully people. I've
27:21
seen him take guys to the sideline, like not really even trying. So
27:23
I don't think like him living in ex is the best idea. Maybe in
27:26
base packages, like again Mac College, just because he's a bigger guy.
27:32
Maybe p Coleman at Z and then however you want to you know, do
27:34
Kincaid and Khalios should care all that? But I hope they don't use him
27:37
as strictly an X. Like we talked about this off air with Kyrie Elam
27:41
where he kills it in the interview and it's like, oh, this guy's
27:42
so smart and he studies so well, and then it's like, well,
27:45
you know, not are you know, there's more nuance, but he doesn't
27:48
feel like you guys are really using new strengths. So you're so impressed by
27:52
the house it was, and then it seems like you out smart at yourself
27:53
and put him in a bad spot. Again, more nuanced than that.
27:56
I don't follow this team like that, so I'm not going to get in
27:59
nitty gritty. I just hope they don't stick Keon on an island and just
28:03
say, yep, beat every team's best corner all the time. I don't
28:07
think that's how you maximize the skill set or any guy really, Like there's
28:10
very few guys who stick them at X and it's like, yes, live
28:12
there, You're fine. Sorry, Stefan diggskough cough. When you look at
28:18
the Bill's team, if you're the Patriots or if you're any other team,
28:21
do you if I mean Graham, maybe it's n Fairs. He's gonna be
28:22
a rookie and we have no comparison in terms of what he can because he's
28:26
never played it down in the league. Juxtaposing him with Dalton Kincaid, I
28:30
guess even Joe Get, maybe let me shift the conversation, like the focus
28:33
to Kincaid. How much fear or not does Dalton Kincaid put into you,
28:38
either as a Patriots guy or just an opponent in general? Like how do
28:41
you view him from an outsider perspective, because for me, I think this
28:47
pick of Keyon Coleman I think he has I mean, with the athleticism,
28:52
if he can clean up some of the finer pieces, I really think he
28:55
could be a wide receiver one. But I think more a likely, more
28:57
likely trajectory is like a high end two or really fun auxiliary piece to a
29:02
true number one, which makes me think Dalton Kinkaid is more likely to be,
29:07
you know, the number one pass catching option in this offense, with
29:11
his skill set, his position, the mismatched potential you can create, and
29:15
also how his skill set meshes with Josh Allen, with how good of a
29:18
separator he is and how Josh gravitates towards those type of guys, which is
29:22
another piece that makes the key On Coleman fit a little wonky or interesting to
29:25
say the least. So my thought is that Keon here is more of and
29:30
I'm not saying this in a negative way, like I think he's more of
29:33
an auxiliary piece or person to round out the basketball lineup at wide receiver,
29:38
and the offense is going to funnel through Dalton Kinkaid from a pass catching perspective.
29:41
If that's true, if you're an opponent, which you are technically,
29:45
how do you view that? Do you see Dalton Kinkaid is like, man,
29:48
that dude is a threat. That's a guy we have to allocate resources
29:51
towards. Or is he just a piece that exists in the offense that you
29:55
have to account for. I think he's someone you respect, Like I could
29:57
see he would end up basically being their trap Kelsey, where he is the
30:00
guy where you just funnel everything through him. Last year, Kyle Dugger did
30:04
struggle against him, but I think he was sick. I remember, like
30:08
I was. I was thinking, he's getting burned in a way that you
30:11
don't usually see Kyle. It's funny he got beat real bad by Knocks on
30:15
the game and for a touchdown in New England, and all I remember the
30:18
year before was literally like Kyle Dugger was like the tight end stopper like for
30:23
everyone week in week out, and I was like, oh, Knox beat
30:26
Dugger. And the first thing that went in my brain I was like,
30:30
is Douger hurt or is he like not feeling good? Like no disrespect to
30:33
Dawson KNOCKX. But my immediate thought was like, well, something that's got
30:36
to be wrong with Dugger, but sorry, continue, No. The thing
30:37
with Dugger is that he's very good in coverage. He is kind of stiff,
30:42
but he's so athletic he can make up for it. He gets in
30:45
trouble or he'll take his eye off the target or whoever the receiver is,
30:48
and then that guy gets separation. He's looking for the ball and then it's
30:52
like, wait, where's the guy I was covering. He's like, oh
30:53
shit, he's over there, so that'll happen. I also think Marte mop
30:57
Who's probably gonna develop more in that tight end racer. I think ideally Douger
31:02
is more of your robber, like how back in the day where he had
31:04
Chung, Devin mccorty and Deron Harmon, where Deron Harmon's in the post,
31:08
Devin mccorty is that guy who's cutting routes over the middle or just reading the
31:11
quarterback, and then you got Patrick Chung as the tight end racer. I
31:15
think Martin Moppu's probably just a more fluid athlete, super dynamic in that way
31:19
where he's probably better in those man covered situations than Dugger. Obviously with his
31:23
reign, his intelligence, his ball skills. You want him kind of just
31:26
beasting over the middle and then jabro Peppers. I think in most situations passing
31:30
situations, because he's not really big enough to go against tight ends. You
31:34
could put him against running backs, but I think that's where you'd rather have,
31:37
like, you know, a good coverage linebacker, and that Pepper's kind
31:41
of been the post. So to say all that, I would respect Dalton
31:45
Kinkaid. I'm not like going into games not thinking about him, like kind
31:49
of like with Ed Oliver. Honestly, I go into games and I'm like,
31:52
he's gonna make a play, but I'm not like scared of Ed Oliver.
31:56
It's kind of that way with Kinkaid, although I would not be surprised
31:59
if, like one season, him and Josh just absolutely click and it's like
32:02
they are putting up those kinds of like, yeah, he's a tight end,
32:06
but he's really a wide receiver and a legit top option. But yeah,
32:08
for right now, he just doesn't scare me that much because it's so
32:12
hard to find a tight end who is that scary where you can funnel the
32:16
entire offense through him, and even those guys there's not many who are the
32:19
spoken point of their offense. Like Sam Laporta are like a freaking guy on
32:23
the guy on the Vikings who looks like a Viking. I love the guy
32:28
in the Vikings who looks like a Viking. Immediately it was like Tej Hockinson.
32:30
We're like they could be the center point of an offense, but they're
32:34
even better because they don't have to be. And I feel like with kim
32:37
Ka, he'd probably be better as the number two, but for that role
32:39
where it's like separator and then Kean Coleman's the ball winner. I could see
32:43
that kind of shaken out. I like the idea of him as being the
32:46
one just because of I mean, I'm a schematic guy in X as a
32:50
OS guy, and like, I just think if you have a true dual
32:53
threat tight end or pass catching option in a tight end, it presents so
33:00
many mismatch opportunities. And I think you even breaking down all the pats would
33:05
deal with him speaks to that, because how many teams have a Dugger and
33:08
a Peppers and a Mapu and like all these versatile second level dudes, second
33:14
and third level dudes where you can be like who's the apex, who's the
33:16
safety, who's the linebacker. We can play man, we can play zone.
33:21
We maybe this is a robber, maybe it's a Tampa two invert.
33:22
You don't know who's going where. The Pats have the opportunity to kind of
33:28
because they're such a versatile defense in that back seven, they have the opportunity
33:31
to, you know, pull different levers and push different buttons to match with
33:36
teams like that. But I don't think a lot of teams are built like
33:38
that. And you know, it's funny talking about that with the Patriots.
33:42
I'm gonna link that to Cole Bishop when we talk about him in a little
33:45
bit, Like I think the Pats are one of the few teams that have
33:49
the defense and the personnel to be able to mix and match to the point
33:52
where, okay, cool, you can take your tight end and line them
33:54
up at X or put him in the slot, or have him attached,
33:57
or have him at this. You can do whatever. We can match stat
34:00
with all our personnel and do whatever the hell we want to do. But
34:02
I think so many other teams can And that's where I think, Okay,
34:07
maybe that's what maybe that's what this plan is like, I went into this
34:09
draft thinking, whoever they took it wide receiver, Like if Brian Thomas fell,
34:15
I think they were going to take Brian Thomas right, So maybe that
34:17
changes the plans or changes you know, my narrative that I'm kind of spinning
34:22
here. But I went into this draft thinking, whoever they took it wide
34:25
receiver or didn't take it wide receiver would tell us what they thought about Dalton
34:30
Kinkaid, Like, are you looking for somebody who's going to who's who's ceiling
34:35
and most likely outcome or path in the NFL or trajectory is a true wide
34:38
receiver one or is it somebody who's more an auxiliary piece that you compare with
34:43
Dalton Kincaid because he is your one and because of the mismatch opportunity and mismatched
34:47
potential that Dalton kin k presents. I just think that's real interesting, especially
34:52
if you look at it from like Kinkaid is the nucleus, and so it's
34:57
Kincaid, and then you look at Keon Coleman and what his skill set is
35:01
as an auxiliary piece. You look at Curtis Samuel and what his skill set
35:05
is as an auxiliary piece Koalie O Shakir, even Dawson Knox to home into
35:08
that, like all these different little pieces and buttons, they function differently and
35:14
funnel differently. If you look at Dalton Kincaid as the nucleus rather than Stefan
35:19
Diggs as the nucleus, or Keon Coleman is the nucleus, or Brian Thomas
35:22
or Xavier Worthy or whatever insert receiver here that I wanted instead of key On
35:27
Coleman. And I think that's such an interesting conversation schematically going forward for the
35:30
Bills, because not just because they have Joe Brady, and I keep saying
35:36
this, I really want to drive it home for people. We have not
35:38
seen Joe Brady's offense with the Buffalo Bills. The offense that Joe Brady was
35:42
running last year was Ken Dorsey's offense with his tweaks, so players he liked
35:47
different, you know, play callings and patterns and things like little tweaks here
35:52
and there. It's physically impossible to uninstall an offense in week ten and install
35:58
a new one by week eleven, so it's just not possible. So we
36:01
really haven't seen what Joe Brady's offense is and what he wants, so you've
36:05
got that on the plate and then also losing Stefan Diggs. I just think
36:08
there's so many schematic conversation pieces for this offense in terms of who is their
36:13
go to, who are they going to funnel everything through? Obviously Josh Allen,
36:16
but you know how prevalent is the run game. I think that's another
36:19
aspect too, right, Like so many conversations about and I've been tweeting this
36:23
for like years, the cyclical nature of football, right, Like, you
36:28
know, teams become more offenses become more pass oriented, and there's that passing
36:31
boom. So what do we see like nickel defenses and dime defenses everywhere.
36:37
Defensive tackles are now built to be penetrating one gap. Defensive tackles like the
36:42
Vince will forks of yesteryear are pretty much like dinosaurs and don't exist. Like
36:46
even Vita Vea, who is in that mold. Dude can motor and is
36:51
extremely athletic. But there's yes, absolutely, but more guys are built to
36:55
you know, one gap and penetrate and be smaller and faster. Why because
36:59
they're trying to get after the quarterback and the same thing with nickel defenses,
37:02
the same thing with all these too high coverage structures, trying to put a
37:06
cap on everything in limit explosives. So for me, it was just a
37:08
matter of time until ironically in the Chiefs started doing it. How much longer
37:13
until the offenses were like, you know what, let's just go heavy and
37:16
run the ball down team's throats because they're light on the interior and they're playing
37:21
with all these dbs and we're gonna bully them. And I wonder that a
37:23
little bit Kincaid knox keon Coleman, like, I just do you condense and
37:29
try and mash teams? Like I just wonder if it's a cyclical piece.
37:31
And what are the Rams and the forty nine ers doing? Everybody thinks of
37:35
them as outside zone teams. Noll do is run outside zone. Look at
37:38
their splits. The Rams specialize in duo and the forty nine ers specialize in
37:43
like power, That's what I'm gonna say. The Rams are running duo to
37:45
like the trip side with like Pup and Nakua and then Tyler Higbee like and
37:50
what they're yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah. No one really
37:52
talk unless you're like deep into the weeds. You don't really hear people talk
37:54
about it very much, but I talk about that. The wide zone stuff,
37:58
I really think is gonna start winding dwindling a little bit more because now
38:01
you have linebackers who can go side to side, you have defensive linemen who
38:05
understand how to work those techniques. Defensive defense has changed themselves to stop zone
38:09
runs. So offenses are going to swing it back and be like, we'll
38:12
run at you. We're gonna run gap all day and run it down your
38:14
throat. And that's why it's like for a Patriots follower like and Oliver doesn't
38:17
scare me, because what's and Oliver gonna do against the double team with Citi
38:21
So and Mike and Win who like goddamn thing. He's not doing anything to
38:23
stop that. So yeah, and I mean that was one of my takeaways
38:28
looking at this draft class. I don't know if I'm getting ahead whatever,
38:30
we're wars off the rails. Ray Davis really consistent, powerful, downhill type
38:36
of running back. Then you get Cedric van Pran Granger center obviously from Georgia,
38:39
a lot of SEC competition there. Then you get Tyland Grable and Travis
38:44
Clayton two guys who are more developmental picks, but guys who have very interesting
38:49
physical profiles at the very least. I feel like, if you want to
38:52
play bulleyball, send those guys out his extra offensive lineman where it's like,
38:55
all right, yeah doing dunk kin. Kate really is gonna be a little
38:59
slot receiver with Kean Coleman, and we're gonna come out here with Tyland Grabil
39:01
as a tight end and we're gonna run the ball down your throat. That's
39:05
the kind of situation where it makes Josh Allen's life a lot easier. You
39:07
don't necessarily need that wide receiver one all the time because you're not putting the
39:12
onus on him to consistently just slice and dice defenses. And then you make
39:15
it so okay, Josh. You just make it like a handful of those
39:19
crazy plays like what Mahomes did last season. If you look at his stats,
39:22
they're not crazy impressive. You have like I think he was top five,
39:24
and like, yeah, great. Not a lot of his yards were
39:27
actually through the air because that's what defenses were giving him. So he's like,
39:30
I'll throw underneath, I'll run the ball. I don't care. I
39:32
don't need to go bombs away. But the second, the second you show
39:37
me single coverage and you decide to cheat to one side and I've got a
39:38
burner on the other, I'm gonna go deep and I'm gonna hit it.
39:42
And I think that's kind of the world you want to see the Bills start
39:44
living in. Because there's so much change going on with Buffalo right now,
39:47
I think it's probably best with the staff change, with all the changes that
39:52
are happening to the roster outside of just Digs, maybe to say, Josh,
39:55
we are going to help you and make your life as easy as we
39:59
can, so you do not have to be the reason that we're winning games
40:02
every single week. I really I used to say it as a joke,
40:06
but I think with what we saw with the Bills offense last year, the
40:09
direction they're going in with Brady, even though maybe this is a bit ironic
40:14
considering the spread offense he ran at LSU, but you see Brady's history and
40:20
being a Sean Payton guy, and again, like Wag, it's been talking
40:22
about a bunch like you go to those Sean Payton Saints teams and the receivers
40:25
were like Marcus Colston and like Devrey Henderson and like these fun role players and
40:30
niche dudes and auxiliary guys. But he didn't have like this nasty, crazy
40:34
true wide receiver one and you know, depending on kind of like yeah,
40:40
but again, mismatched tight end piece like Jimmy Graham, Jeremy Shockey and or
40:45
even I know, maybe this is he's polarizing for some people. I love
40:50
Michael Thomas and I don't care that he only runs slants. I think Michael
40:52
Thomas is sick and the fact that he only wins on like two or three
40:54
things, like I consider him a true wide receiver one. And that was
40:59
the dude Peyton had at the end of his years in New Orleans. But
41:00
Sean Payton loves to run the ball. He loves to get the ball to
41:04
his backs out of the backfield, similar to what Joe Brady does. And
41:07
you saw how successful the Bill's run game was last year with Dorsey and with
41:12
Brady. And my thought is you mentioned the keyon Kleman blocking piece, and
41:16
then you have like the gadgetry stuff that Samuel can do and what Shakir can
41:21
do inside outside and all these different pieces, and I just see this offense
41:24
as more of like a power spread football team going into twenty twenty four,
41:29
where it's condensed sets or heavy personnel in formations, and we are going to
41:34
run the ball down your throat and we're going to force you out of two
41:37
high looks, and if you don't, fine, we're gonna run the ball
41:40
for five six yards a clip, or we're gonna go play action and gouge
41:44
you for seven to eleven yards with Dalton Kinkaid, or we're gonna get it
41:46
to Dawson Knots in the flat and let him truck a dB and gain eight
41:50
yards on first down and make it second and two. And then our wide
41:53
receiver out there, we're gonna go even heavier and put you multiple big bodies,
41:57
and the one wide receiver we have out there is gonna be Keon Coleman,
42:01
who can block. And then also if he's in one on ones,
42:05
we're gonna hit the alert if your corner can't handle him one on one,
42:07
and maybe we chuck it up to him. And that's what it is.
42:08
I just see he's gonna feel like he's gonna be Gabe Davis in those heavy
42:13
sets like that seems so perfect absolutely. I think I think he'll be gave
42:16
Davis in those heavy sets from the perspective of, hey man, we need
42:21
you to dig out that safety or that edge or that outside linebacker. We
42:24
need you to wash this dude down. We need you to crack on this
42:28
guy. We need you to base block and form up on an edge or
42:30
I mean dude like we I know fans don't want to hear because he's polarizing.
42:34
Like we talked about Anthony Jennings the last time you were here, and
42:37
how great of a run defender he is that second game Bill's versus Patriots,
42:40
Gabe Davis is blocking Jennings like five yards off the ball and downfield like he
42:45
puts Jennings like on his back foot. That doesn't happen to Anthony Jennings.
42:50
And that's a tip of the cat to how good of a blocker gave Davis
42:52
is if you can get that from Keyon Coleman, plus more athleticism and contested
42:57
catchability and yak and all these true one on one winning situations and the off
43:02
all that run stuff we're just gave. It's like, oh, I'm blocking,
43:05
I'm blocking hot, No, I'm not. Then seventy yard touchdown,
43:07
all those little sneaky play action pieces that they would hit the gave yeah or
43:10
know what they would do to knocks against the Saints. So what they did
43:13
with gab Davis against the Rams open the season a couple of years ago,
43:15
like, I really just see. I don't think the true passing nature or
43:20
the spread nature of the offense is going to go away, but I see
43:23
it packaged with more of yeah, like a power spread type of option where
43:29
you're seeing more condensed formations and condensed alignments. And I love that you brought
43:31
up the Rams and Niner stuff because I feel like people see the Shanahan McVeigh
43:37
stuff, maybe Shanahan more because I think fans or casual fans are able to
43:42
recognize like, oh, they run the ball and they have Christian McCaffrey.
43:45
But I think the thought with the Rams is like, oh, well,
43:46
Matthew Stafford has this huge armen. They've gotten to Koua and cups, so
43:50
they probably just go five wide every formation and chucking around. It's like,
43:52
no, they run the ball with Kyron Williams, who's also a tremendous blocker
43:58
and tremendous and pass pro they run right at you and displace you vertically,
44:02
and then they work in everything off of that they I mean, and they've
44:06
been doing that honestly for forever, back when it was Cup and Robert Woods,
44:09
Like you have to block in that offense, and they're running trips,
44:12
but it's condensed and they're shrinking the field and then they're expanding and attacking you
44:16
out of it with the run and the pass. And I feel like football,
44:20
I think, in general, is moving towards that direction. And I
44:23
see more of that from the Bills as well, not just because of how
44:27
it is in the bigger picture of the game, but also because of how
44:30
teams are playing you. It's just a natural answer for what defenses are doing
44:34
to the Bills and offenses in general. Like and you mentioned in the zone
44:37
piece is a great call. Like if defenses are building themselves to stop zone
44:40
runs, okay, start running gap runs, and then eventually when defenses build
44:45
themselves back to stop gap, you run zone like there is it's the yeah,
44:52
and it's time as a flat circle. It's Rust and Cole from Freaking
44:54
True Detective, Like time is a flat circle. There is nothing in football
44:58
is new, Like everything seeing has happened before. It's just a matter of
45:02
when do you bring it back, when do you recycle it. And it's
45:06
just with the changing of the guard and the pendulum swings. Defense swings it
45:08
in their favor, so the offense eventually does the opposite just swing it back
45:13
in their favor and then you just have those fun pieces and I think it's
45:16
really going to be It's such a fun conversation, the schematic piece of it,
45:21
but then also adding like the layer of Stefan Diggs isn't there Josh Allen,
45:27
I think, really has the opportunity to prove himself or if he struggles
45:30
at all, then that narrative is just going to come barking out of like
45:35
you need a digs, you need a digs, You needed digs. But
45:37
if the offense changes, and like you said, takes some off his plate,
45:39
because again the run game is really good and if you can marry both,
45:44
it's really fun, really fun aspect. And you look at like the
45:47
way that offenses have evolved since like twenty like tennish where the big revolution at
45:52
first was the Patriots and the two tight ends where it's like now nobody has
45:57
three good safeties. So now it's like, all right, no matter what
46:00
you do, there's no answer because the league isn't ready for this yet.
46:02
Then you started to see the league starts to prioritize safeties more. And then
46:06
you started seeing, oh, let's try the two tight end thing. Obviously
46:08
like no one can really do it well. But then once you get Mahomes
46:12
in the league, you start seeing, you know, you get McVeigh and
46:15
there's the wide zone stuff and all the outside zone in the boot, and
46:16
then there's Mahomes. You can take the top off and it's okay now instead
46:21
of this like single high stuff or we're trying to you know, legion boom
46:23
Man coverage everyone and all that. Now it's like, no, we need
46:25
to get back because they're trying to take the top off. As we saw
46:29
with the Patriots in the Super Bowl, they were like, all right,
46:30
we'll play quarters. Can't pete quarters of what you're doing right here. The
46:34
funny thing is actually the Rams were beating quarters. They were just so disheveled,
46:38
and Jared Goff was terrified. He was missing some pretty open shots and
46:42
Todd Curley and Todd Curley was running on run one friggin leg But that Patriots
46:45
defense was a masterclass with what they were doing and then locking the one side
46:50
with Gilmour like there was just nothing for the Rams to do. And now
46:53
you see like every defense is specializing in quarters now, and that's the kind
46:57
of go to, all right, this is how we're gonna counter it now
47:00
that you see like Mahomes and those guys are going less bombs away and more
47:04
like, let's take what the defense gives us. Because as great as it
47:07
is to have like one hundred million dollar man a quarterback, makes a lot
47:10
more sense to make that guy's life as easy as possible. Like we said,
47:14
if you can run the ball for five yards, pop, why in
47:16
the world wouldn't you. It's a disservice to one your offensive line and your
47:20
quarterback because now it's like, all right, this guy, you're just putting
47:22
even more wear on his tires for the season, and if he's good enough
47:24
to be around late in the season, he'd like to have him as well
47:28
preserved as possible. And the best way to do that, as we saw
47:30
with the Bills when they were really kind of running that ground game was going
47:35
just rum the ball, make things easy and then make it an unpleasant surprise
47:38
when Josh Allen decides to throw a bomb and not something that everybody and their
47:42
mother is expecting on every single drop. Yes, and not to mention too
47:45
like the explosives you can generate from play action and how good most quarterbacks are
47:49
good off of play action anyway, but especially Allen like his. I feel
47:52
like play action for what it is. I don't know if it's the rhythm
47:57
of it or the comfortability. It just gets his mechanics right when he's he's
48:01
really good in terms of like hiding the ball and selling that run fake.
48:05
But it gets his feet right, it gets his motion, it gets his
48:07
timing like you watch him, you know, run fake, drop, step,
48:12
hitch throw. It's on time, it's comfortable, it's fluid, and
48:16
it gives you the opportunity to hit some of those explosives versus coming out in
48:22
more of a traditional passing formation and struggling to pass the ball down the field
48:27
because there's a cap on the defense and having to work underneath. So like
48:30
if you if teams aren't putting that cap on you, you can get Exavier
48:34
Worthy or Brian Thomas and these dudes that are crazy fast and still try to
48:37
push it vertical and see what happens and create separation in the intermediate, which
48:40
can work, or you can force defenses out of those two high shelves by
48:45
running the football, going with heavier personnel, but then having those heavier that
48:50
heavier personnel present mismatches downfield, like Dalton Kincaid or like key On Coleman,
48:54
and I just think that's like that was my biggest takeaway with like Coleman coming
48:59
in was I think it means kin Kate is the true one that in that
49:04
past catching room. Coleman is an auxiliary piece, a nice one, and
49:07
we'll see how he fits. But I think the nature of this offense is
49:09
going to change as offenses I think in the NFL are starting to change,
49:13
but then even more so with that kind of piece for Kim Kate. Anything
49:15
else on Keyon Coleman before we move on to the next topic, not much.
49:19
I'll just say when you mentioned Josh Allen under center, I will say
49:22
anytime the Patriots play the Bills, the scariest thing for me is when Josh
49:27
Allen's under center, because you really don't know what's going to happen. It's
49:30
like, well, if it's play action, you have to respect the run
49:31
anyways, Yeah, so you have to. That is the worst situation to
49:35
be in is when you have to respect the run. And Josh Allen's a
49:37
quarterback. So I'll just said with that, I pretty much said everything I
49:39
need to say about Kyank Coleman. I think he's a fun player. I'm
49:43
excited to see his career and I'm rooting for the guy. I don't care
49:45
what team he's on. I just hope they use him well and maximize his
49:49
talents and then we just get some fun performances out of At the end of
49:51
the day, man, we can have rivalries and everything, but we want
49:53
to watch good games. And if Gonzo and Kean Coleman are just like freaking
49:58
Clash of the Titans twice for times a year, I'm all for it.
50:00
Man. I love Christian Gizaus so so so much. To him the other
50:05
day or was it today? It was today, He's awesome, He's so
50:08
it was funny we asked. I asked him about Jalen Polk obviously the we're
50:13
both from the Pac twelve, and he goes, he goes, Yeah,
50:15
I've been keeping kit tabs on him, but we don't like you, dub
50:19
that's funny. That's seriously, he doesn't really do that. And I was
50:22
like, oh, that's kind of fun and then it was like, uh,
50:23
yeah, no, Like Polk's a great player. He got a touchdown
50:27
against us. Wasn't against me, though, I will say that it was
50:29
on the other side, and then you looked it up and Gonzo's on the
50:31
other side against it from and then Polke's taking the top off. So yeah,
50:35
just quick Gonzo story. There was a I've said as more on the
50:37
show, like I like I like Jalen McMillan actually more than I like Polk
50:43
or no Poke. Now, I guess I'm gonna say I'm never gonna get
50:45
that right. And one of the things that I really liked with McMillan was
50:46
going back to his twenty twenty two tape when he was the number two behind
50:52
Rome and Polk really emerged because McMillan got hurt in twenty twenty three. But
50:55
they're playing Oregon and McMillan is downfield one on one against Christian Gonzalez and it's
51:01
a jump ball situation and Gonzalez goes up and high points and beats him to
51:06
it, but McMillan also gets up and as they come down, he rips
51:09
it away from Gonzalez. And when that happened, I was like, oh,
51:13
because, like, Gonzalez was my CB one that year and I thought
51:15
so highly of him, and for McMillan to do that, yeah, man,
51:17
Like I I love Christian Gonzalez so much. And that real quick one
51:21
last piece, like the you mentioned the Allen drop back stuff, especially when
51:24
you have guys like Kincaid and even Knocks with his athleticism, if you can
51:29
suck in those second level defenders and your tight ends or Curtis Samuel or Kali
51:34
Securre whoever like have that speed and athleticisms and then get behind the second level
51:37
and now they have more speed to do it or more room to do it
51:40
because you've sucked in some of those defenders with the run fake. There's just
51:45
so many fun things that can happen schematically. Cole Bishop, you know your
51:51
third piece here. I'm going in order the Bills picks, but the third
51:53
so you did your top three things that you thought the Bills had to address
51:57
in the draft last time you were here. The number one piece was that
52:00
true x and that wide receiver group. The third piece was the safety roup
52:04
and the safety grouping Bill's with their second pick, I guess listen to you.
52:07
Technically, at pick sixty, he went with Cold Bishop out of Utah.
52:10
How does he does he move the needle for you? What does he
52:13
make you think? What does he make you do? And I want I
52:15
preface that, and I also wanted to say, this is what I was
52:16
gonna mention earlier to talking about the Patriots defense. The Cold Bishop pick,
52:21
I think is really interesting for me because I had him as my safety six,
52:25
I think, but I don't really view him as like a true safety
52:30
as much as I do just kind of like a monster man jack that you
52:34
can put anywhere. And I don't mean this disrespectfully to him. I like
52:38
him less the further he gets away from the line of scrimmage, like I
52:43
like him less as a single high safety, as a split field safety,
52:45
even though he can function him both. I like him as an apex or
52:50
big slot you know, Nickel, however you want to verbalize it, second
52:53
level defender. You're blitzing him. He's covering the flat, he's in man
52:57
coverage against your tight end. He's man covering the running back. You might
53:00
send him out of cross dog blitz inside. He's so fun in and around
53:02
the line of scrimmage. And I wonder how he fits in the Bills defense.
53:07
And this is what I was mentioned earlier, Like I thought he was
53:09
best suited for a team like the Ravens or the Patriots who run these dime
53:14
these dime you know, personnel groupings where you don't know who the safety is,
53:17
who the slot's going to be. Hey, we have this traditional alignment
53:21
and then the next thing, you know, one of the slots is drop
53:23
in as a split field safety and it's actually cover two. And then but
53:28
the single high safety pre snap is actually the pole runner in the middle,
53:31
except he's not running from the line and gain and depth, he's coming from
53:36
top down, all these fun things. Like I thought cole bish of skill
53:38
set would be best utilized in the defense like that, like the Patriots.
53:43
Ironically, but nonetheless the Bills take him. They do have this tremendous history
53:45
of development dudes in the secondary. Does he move the needle for you at
53:50
that safety position, you know, considering you idd it as a position the
53:52
Bills needed to address in the Draft one. When you're talking about all these
53:55
disguises, are you thinking of the game where the Bills came to gellet and
53:59
twenty and Bill like literally through the kitchen sink at you. Yeah, it
54:05
was. It was like a thirty and eighteen where they showed one look and
54:08
then like three people went to positions where like you could not have possibly expected
54:12
them to go post. There were so many like between watching Bill's Patriots schemes
54:16
and then watching the Pats like in pre preparation for those games, or watching
54:21
other offenses who are playing the Pats by extension. There's just so many times
54:24
where like like I'm watching I'm not watching like the Patriots defense, I'm watching
54:29
the offense. But then like as the play is finishing, I'm like,
54:31
how did Jalen Mills get to like center field? He was lined up like
54:36
he was lined up at defensive tackle. Pre staff like what's going on?
54:37
And it's just like all these weird things and it just, yeah, gives
54:40
me that appreciation. And you see that a lot like Spags does it,
54:45
lu Ana Rumo does it. You know Belichick was doing it like when you
54:49
had got it from I think Lou was a big inspiration for what they were
54:52
going in twenty twenty two. He's tremendous with that and it worked against the
54:54
Bills, and I think Belichick borrowed some of that. And it's only possible
54:58
because you have those players that you can do that with like it does.
55:01
I don't if you have a player that's in the slot but sucks there,
55:06
no one's gonna care if he's there or not. It's the fact that like,
55:07
ooh, duggers at the apex and he can do that, or he
55:12
might drop and be a split field safety because he can do that, or
55:15
he might be in the post because he can do that, or he might
55:16
just stay right, or he might blitz, or he might just be a
55:21
low hole player. Like it's because they have that in their skills that you
55:23
know, they can do all those things reasonably well, and then all these
55:27
other guys can do it around him, which again is why, like I
55:30
thought, like Cole Bishop fitting in that kind of defense that's more havoc based
55:35
and not static in terms of the coverages and what they do, which also
55:39
makes me think maybe the Bills are moving towards some more of that, maybe
55:43
they go into the world of simulated pressures and more creepers, and they disguise
55:46
things or maybe they're looking to go more dime or do some different things personnel
55:51
wise on third downs or known passing downs. But yeah, I'm I'm interested
55:55
to see kind of what they do and how they function Him and Taron Johnson
55:59
and junction is Taron Johnson, they're all pro Nickel. Every once in a
56:02
while, I think maybe like seven times, so it's probably less than even
56:06
Once in a while, they would do some stuff where he was droppings like
56:07
the split field safety in a cover too, and they would drop him from
56:10
the slot to split field safety, usually to the boundary side, and then
56:15
they would run like Tampa two invert or like a Tampa two robber where Mike
56:20
Yes, the exact same Miles Bryant, where like anytime they wanted. I
56:23
asked Kyle Gugger when they do that, and he would not give me an
56:27
answer. He's like, ah, just I don't think he's lying. He
56:29
basically said, it's just a field thing where sometimes they'll be like all right,
56:31
like, whoever the strong safety is, I'm coming down, Yes,
56:35
you're the safety, and we're gonna get more physicality at the line and then
56:37
you get your range on the back end. I know exactly what this guy.
56:40
I love it. I absolutely love it. And it's funny that you
56:43
mentioned that I was trying. I was gonna mention it, but I couldn't
56:45
remember in my head if the example I was thinking of was Miles Bryant dropping
56:50
to the split field safety or if it was Marcus Jones, and I couldn't
56:52
remember who was doing it. And I think it's and so when you said
56:55
Myles Bryant, immediately remember I get my numbers confused all the time. And
56:59
then both of those are smaller, even though Marcus Jones is even smaller than
57:02
Bryant. But yeah, it's just like I think, all those fun pieces
57:06
and if Bishop isn't move in that direction regardless him, yeah, does he
57:10
move that needle for you? Again? Because I think maybe not necessarily in
57:15
today's days, but like sixty, that's a good investment out of safety in
57:19
the NFL today, considering like where these guys go and how much money they
57:22
command. So does it do anything for you? Does it change your mind
57:25
on that safety grouping you knowing how kind of how much of a vulnerability you
57:29
thought it was before the draft? One so funny. I think we just
57:32
spent ten minutes and I need yet. But so much of this is a
57:37
schematic based like that's what that's what it is, one hundred percent. That's
57:42
where you gravitate towards. I gravitate towards. And I think that's also accidentally
57:45
we came to this conclusion. Like that's my thought for so many of these
57:50
bills picks, especially early on with Bishop and Coleman, because of the schematic
57:55
nature of what it means for each side of the ball. Because I don't
57:59
think Bishop or Coleman neither are really what they look towards traditionally at those positions
58:05
based on what they've been offensively and defensively. So my question, really,
58:08
like for myself, is Okay, is this just no, we're taking this
58:13
guy and we can mold him into what we want or is it more of
58:15
a potential departure from the norm and what they've been recently in a move into
58:21
a different ground. Because again, like I think cool Bishop can end up
58:23
being a fine like cool. You know, you play him single high every
58:27
once in a while. Cool, you play him and split high looks.
58:29
He can be a fine traditional safety. But I think he's best as like
58:31
a robber low hole apex type player in and around the box and line of
58:37
scrimmage. Again, like like what the Patriots do with so many of their
58:39
guys, So to see the bills take him I do find interesting. Sorry,
58:43
I get some conversations, go ahead, Is he not just like better
58:46
tailor Rap? Am I wrong there? So that's also the piece too,
58:50
not to be disrespectful, like Mike Edwards is probably with Rap, Bishop and
58:58
Edwards, all three of those guys are more Jordan Poyer than they are Micah
59:02
Hyde. Edwards is probably the closest you could push towards the hide bucket,
59:08
but you're really forcing it. So that's also part of my question too with
59:12
Bishop, Rap and Edwards. And I know bo Bishop's time forty was,
59:16
you know, being in the four four five, and he runs faster than
59:20
Rap and Edwards. I don't think he necessarily plays like four four five.
59:22
He's not slow, but I just don't think he's you know, lightning McQueen
59:27
all over there, shout out to cars. So I do see. I
59:30
do think there is some of that kind of redundancy a little bit. Yeah,
59:32
like he's more athletic Taylor rap or younger athletic, better coverage Taylor rap,
59:37
which isn't necessarily bad, but it just felt like kind of double Yeah,
59:42
it just felt like kind of doubling down or tripling down on that safety
59:45
spot. Whereas again not just because low hanging fruit, because you're here.
59:50
When you juxtapose it with what the Pats were, like, Devin mccordy was
59:53
different than Dougger, and Dugger is different than Pepper's and you know what Jaylen
59:59
Mills is, what Brian is and all these guys that they work into different
1:00:01
spots in the secondary and so but specifically with the safety, Yeah, like
1:00:05
I see Bishop in more of the Taylor rap mold, just being more athletic
1:00:08
and coverage versatile, but still being in more of that mold. Yeah.
1:00:14
So, like I'll go start with the Patriot example. People say that their
1:00:19
safeties all kind of do the same thing, which I understand because they're kind
1:00:22
of more boxed specialists. But like Jabrill Peppers is the very disciplined veteran,
1:00:25
so he can play center field. People don't really give me credit. They
1:00:29
act like he's not good at that role. I thought the number of plays
1:00:31
he made and the fact that he didn't give up like any big plays and
1:00:35
made up for other people. I thought he was fine in that role.
1:00:37
So I see him kind of in that vain. I see Dugger as the
1:00:39
guy where you really want him close to the line of scrimmage and maximize his
1:00:44
ball skills. Marks him up with this stage in his career. I think
1:00:46
can do everything, but I don't think he's big enough to be the linebacker
1:00:51
that they like. In some packages we're like in big nicols sometimes it'll look
1:00:53
like a true three to four you just have a safety linebacker. I don't
1:00:57
think he can do that the way Peppers and Dugger can, but I do
1:01:00
think he's a looser, more explosive athlete. So that's where it's like they
1:01:02
have overlapping skill sets, but you can see where they would fit in different
1:01:07
ways to Maximus. Absolutely, with Bishop, I see him as the dugger
1:01:12
where he's kind of the queen you move him and he's the piece where it's
1:01:15
like I really want to robber here. I think that there's a good chance
1:01:19
he can make a play or this tight end. I don't want to risk
1:01:22
having him just run one on one. We're gonna put him on like I
1:01:24
think that's what he's gonna be. Edwards, I think, just because he's
1:01:28
a veteran probably is that free safety type where it's just like, don't make
1:01:31
mistakes, pretty much like if we don't have a real free safety, we
1:01:35
just want the guy who's not gonna screw up at the end of the day.
1:01:37
That's yeah, making a play as a free safety as a bonus.
1:01:38
And then Rap is kind of your in between guy where it's like, all
1:01:42
right, now, where's the strong safety that isn't the slot or you know,
1:01:45
however their rotation works out. I feel like probably by later in the
1:01:47
season, maybe we'll see. I don't know if Rap can be the free
1:01:52
safety with then Bishop as you know, the number two, and then Edwards
1:01:54
is out. I don't know. I don't know your team that well,
1:01:57
but I would predict that Bishop, whenever where he's ready, is kind of
1:02:00
that key piece who moves around based on what the priority is and the coverage,
1:02:05
with Edwards being that veteran guy who's not gonna screw up on the back
1:02:07
end, and then Taylor Rap kind of doing whatever fits best for him,
1:02:10
giving whatever role is so so real quick then so then so that I think
1:02:15
that's a very right by the way, I'm gonna do victory laps. That's
1:02:17
fair and I think, but I think that's a natural thought to have in
1:02:22
terms of the progression. But then my question is who's coming off the field,
1:02:27
because they're already in nickel, so that Mike Edwards is coming off Unless
1:02:30
you think Bishop Bishop is the queen, I'm so confused. I thought that
1:02:34
I was gonna pull it that cob and I thought that was a very good
1:02:36
chess. I think unless you're not confident that Bishop can be like an every
1:02:42
down player, I keeping Mike Edwards on the field for what because unless you
1:02:46
really don't like Rap as a center fielder, then then I feel like,
1:02:50
but that's it. Like I like Mike Edwards better as a center fielder than
1:02:53
I do Taylor Rap. Like I think he has more range than Taylor Rap.
1:02:58
Like, if we're looking at Bishop up Rap and Edwards, Bishop has
1:03:02
the best versatility. Edwards is probably the best center fielder. Rap is by
1:03:07
far the best tackler, especially coming from depth, even though I know people
1:03:12
make the friendly fire jokes, but he's a tremendous tackler. Like they're all,
1:03:15
but they're all like they're all like this, almost the same player,
1:03:19
just slightly different dials in different turns, Like they all have the same bill
1:03:22
in an RPG, Like there's no real differences except little tweaks here and there,
1:03:27
which is what makes me so like what do you do? Like I
1:03:30
don't know who's coming off and who's going where. Like last year we saw
1:03:35
so many three safety looks, but that was because Matt Malana was out,
1:03:37
so they brought Poyer in to be the Matt Malana role with Terrell Bernard,
1:03:42
and then you had hide and rap back as your safeties, which I always
1:03:45
thought was weird because I thought raps would be would be better in and around
1:03:49
the box, and player's better deep. But whatever the injury history, that's
1:03:52
kind of bizarre, absolutely, and especially with how good Rap was as like
1:03:55
a dime linebacker against the Bengals in the Super Bowl, like covering down on
1:03:59
Jamar Chasin's stuff, so like I could see that happening again. But then
1:04:02
that means you have to take one of Milano Bernard or Karen Johnson off the
1:04:08
field or does that mean you're going with three down, like you're taking the
1:04:13
defensive lineman off the field. So then are you only rushing three or are
1:04:15
you blitz in one of the linebackers or one of the apexes. And that's
1:04:18
where my question comes in because I like the schematic potential, but I don't
1:04:24
necessarily see the fit right now based on what the defense looks like from a
1:04:28
roster perspective and also what they've done traditionally and what they're what they are from
1:04:31
a structured perspective, So it's a passing down. I think like Bernard off
1:04:34
the field is pretty easy, like no, he's so good in coverage.
1:04:38
But that's but what I'm saying, if you want the safeties, like if
1:04:41
you want athleticism, that's probably where you might want Rap gonna be, and
1:04:45
then you have your three safeties. I'm also thinking from a Patriots perspective where
1:04:47
they rarely like don't have three safeties on the field. Oh yeah, it's
1:04:50
really just like they're basic nickel and everything else. They find some way to
1:04:53
use this, and that's what like the the improvement if there is one for
1:04:59
taking Bernard off for Bishop is so marginal versus like taking I don't know,
1:05:05
just taking somebody else at pick sixty that would have seen more regular snaps without
1:05:09
forcing another good player off the field. That's why I see so many like
1:05:13
and then the contract situations, like Mike Edwards is on a one year deal,
1:05:16
so maybe he's just flat out the odd man out and maybe he's Safety
1:05:19
three. Maybe the starters aren't Edwards and Rap, and maybe it's Bishop and
1:05:25
Rap or Bishop and Edwards, because even though Rap is on a three year
1:05:28
deal, it really only functions like a one year with what his dead cap
1:05:30
looks like. I'm just so it's just it's fun, but I just don't
1:05:35
see the fit right now, because I don't know where he goes. Like
1:05:38
I think again, I think he's best as an apex and in and around
1:05:41
the box, but you're not taking your all pro corner off the field at
1:05:44
the slot and Taron Johnson and yeah, so is Rap coming off? Is
1:05:49
Bishop just staying on? Because Bishop's just one of the straight up starters And
1:05:53
that means, you know, hey, Edwards, you're you're on a one
1:05:55
year deal, you're Safety three now, you know, thanks for But that's
1:05:58
also I mean, it happens. But like Mike Edwards was just the starting
1:06:01
safety for like the Super Bowl champions and before that he was with the Bucks
1:06:05
as their starter and crushing it. But now he's gonna be like safety three
1:06:09
behind Taylor Rap and Cole Bishop. But then, like, you gave Taylor
1:06:12
Rap a three year deal, are you really ready to cut bait already and
1:06:15
put Bishop ahead of them? Granted you don't know you're gonna get Cole Bishop
1:06:17
or anybody when you sign these guys. It's just so fun and interesting to
1:06:21
think like who goes where and who does what? And I just think your
1:06:26
COMBA two is so funny of like, aren't they all just versions of Taylor
1:06:30
Rap? Pretty much like I think you gotta ignore contracts in this to some
1:06:35
degree because if you have guys who overlapped that much, it's just okay,
1:06:39
who's our best free safety and then we work from there. Yeah, that's
1:06:42
the one thing where it's like, all right, we may have guys who
1:06:44
legitimately just aren't good at this, like Bishop probably shouldn't be playing free safety.
1:06:46
Taylor Rapp is just so much better in other spots. And I think
1:06:49
Mike Edwards, again, he's on a one year deal. It's not like
1:06:51
he's exactly got the rights to be like, oh I'm not playing this.
1:06:55
It's like, no You're probably gonna play whatever we ask you to play.
1:06:57
You're on a one year dal now you're the third safety, shut up,
1:07:00
right, But so I don't know, man, it's it's I feel like
1:07:02
this is gonna be one of those things that we don't know till camp.
1:07:03
Like with the Patriots, it's okay, Kate Wallas play left tackle. We
1:07:06
could talk about it in circles, but it's all right, let's see what
1:07:10
happens on the field. That's ultimately gonna dictate it because we really have no
1:07:13
idea. We just have what we can go off of. And yeah,
1:07:15
what it looks like probably gonna be Edwards just because he seems like he's the
1:07:19
only guy who can do that center field stuff. And I don't know how
1:07:21
you take a safety in the second round and don't play him, And that's
1:07:26
really bad. That's my thought too, Like because even last year, right
1:07:29
like the Bills took Ocyrus Torrents in the second round. Ryan Bates was penciled
1:07:34
in to be a starting right guard and he was gonna be a good right
1:07:36
guard, like high floor, like athletic fun, and then it was like,
1:07:40
Okay, they took Torrance, who's gonna win that right guard job,
1:07:45
and once camp started, it wasn't even like who's gonna win that right guard
1:07:47
job? Once camp started, it was like nope, O, Cyrus Torrance
1:07:49
is with the ones, and he pretty much stayed with the ones. And
1:07:53
so I think, you know, maybe we'll get some indication early on,
1:07:56
and yeah, maybe maybe my brain is just going to sideways to the conversation
1:08:00
of thinking like, oh, you know, Mike Edwards has kind of earned
1:08:01
a spot, but maybe it's not. Maybe they're like, oh, no,
1:08:03
Colt Bishops here, and now Mike Edwards is the guy who is the
1:08:06
cover all behind Rap and Bishop. But then even that, like again,
1:08:11
like I think Mike Edwards is the best center fielder out of all three.
1:08:14
So like you're taking a hit, So how much too high are you playing?
1:08:16
What too man? It's And I see a comment where like you rotate
1:08:20
the safeties like the d line. I understand where that's coming from, but
1:08:24
you really rotate the defensive line more because of attrition and you want to make
1:08:28
sure that the big guys are like, yeah, they can breathe. Safeties
1:08:31
are some of the best athletes on the field, may on the planet.
1:08:34
So those guys you don't really want to be rotating out safeties. You'd like
1:08:39
guys to have defined roles and then they get a groove in those roles and
1:08:43
really like get that sync is in the It's similar on the defensive line.
1:08:45
You do need chemistry with line games and stunts and all that, especially within
1:08:48
the attacking front like the Bills, but the secondary it's even more important because
1:08:53
there's so many moving parts in so much space. They like guys to be
1:08:57
like, all right, I'm comfortable in this role versus you. So I'm
1:09:00
gonna be in for three plays and you're gonna take me out, just because
1:09:01
that just creates kind of a weird dynamic in a secondary uniqu comfortability in chemistry
1:09:06
and the understanding of like who your dance partner is on every snap and yees.
1:09:10
So it's a different it's a different dynamic and it Yeah, I'm really
1:09:14
interested. When once they took him, I was like, oh, because
1:09:15
like I liked him, I didn't love him just even as like in a
1:09:19
vacuum like him as a player. There are some things that concerned me about
1:09:24
him again just where I thought his strengths were. And then even like part
1:09:27
of the reason I don't like him. The further he gets away from the
1:09:29
line of scrimmages. I don't think he plays as fast as his forty time
1:09:33
indicates. And then he's got like some change of directions stiffness or hip stiffness,
1:09:39
where like if he gets turned going the wrong way, opening up and
1:09:43
going the other way, or even speed turning over this shoulder and trying to
1:09:45
cut it off, like isn't the best path for him. So I don't
1:09:48
want him to live as a single high safety. But again, if they're
1:09:51
I don't know, if they're playing sixty five percent middle of the field open
1:09:55
coverages, like does it even really matter that much? You can probably get
1:09:58
away with it with it having Rap or Bishop be the single high safety if
1:10:01
you're only running at thirty five percent of the time. So if you're predominantly
1:10:05
you know, quarters and cover two and cover six type of team, fine,
1:10:10
whatever. And then if you're throwing in disguise stuff from now every now
1:10:12
and again with who's gonna be the robber and Arren Johnson's dropping and doing stuff
1:10:15
like maybe it's fine, but yeah, it's it is very interesting to kind
1:10:18
of see kind of try and put the writing on the wall together and kind
1:10:24
of put the puzzle pieces together ahead of time. Bishop is like the real
1:10:26
interesting one for me. And again, knowing that safety was a position of
1:10:30
need for you, I thought it was interesting to kind of get your thoughts
1:10:31
there. Which again and also just with this defense, and I know they
1:10:34
like to spin the dial and play a little bit of everything, but I
1:10:36
also know one almost no defense doesn't major in cover three. You just kind
1:10:42
of have to play at it for survival so that you can defend the run
1:10:45
and have some level like solid coverage on the back end. And I know
1:10:47
the Bills like to play man coverage in some obvious pass situations. So yeah,
1:10:51
they started to do that more the season went on last year, especially
1:10:54
like two man like they were playing it utimately. So like, I feel
1:10:58
like it's tough to say, are even if they go more middlefield open,
1:11:00
because how much are you still even playing like you can major in it?
1:11:04
But that's still probably gonna be like forty percent of the time at least that
1:11:09
you're still playing with the middle of the field closed and somebody's got to be
1:11:12
back there. So if a team is like, all right, I have
1:11:15
a pretty good beat on when these situations are gonna happen. We're gonna attack
1:11:18
this guy because he's usually there. You know. That's where you start to
1:11:23
be like, all right, what are we gonna do just so the defense
1:11:25
can function and we don't have the glaring weak spot where like again, it
1:11:29
seems like that's Mike Edwards because he's got so much experience. But yeah,
1:11:32
you know, I feel like I'm talking myself in circles. I don't know,
1:11:35
but it is an interesting conversation, and that's it's the schematic piece of
1:11:39
it. I just yeah, I just wonder what direction they go in because
1:11:41
there's no there's no previous course that shows us. Oh well in the past
1:11:45
they would do again, like if he was a patriot or a raven or,
1:11:49
like one of those teams that I envisioned to fit for, you know,
1:11:51
like, oh, he's gonna play the so and so role like so
1:11:54
and so used to do. And it's like, oh, okay, that
1:11:56
makes sense. There's the fit and hear I'm just like, cool, is
1:11:58
he just straight up beating somebody out? And then maybe that's it. Maybe
1:12:00
for as much as we know, Yeah, Mike Edwards is just riding the
1:12:03
bench and it's going to be rapping Bishop or maybe it's Edwards, and I
1:12:09
just keep coming back to the centerfield. But yeah, conversation for another time,
1:12:12
because it's like, so we got new, better tailor rap, but
1:12:15
then we still have Taylor Rap, and then we have older tailor rap.
1:12:17
That's exactly it exactly, And I don't know, like they're all just versions
1:12:21
of Taylor Rap in some way or shape or other. Like I was always's
1:12:25
funny to say like that, because I was just saying that they were all
1:12:27
versions of like they were all just different shades of the Jordan Poyer bucket,
1:12:31
and which made me think they would gravitate towards more of especially with the redundant
1:12:35
not redundancy, but how much overlap there was between Edwards and Rap. I
1:12:42
just figured they would look more towards a post safety type of dude or traditional
1:12:45
more of a free safety or not that didn't necessarily exist anymore, but like
1:12:49
somebody who has more of that range in their repertoire. But no, I
1:12:54
don't know, we'll see. The other piece that you had mentioned when you
1:12:56
were on here previously was the defensive line and offensive line needing to be addressed
1:13:00
for the puffle Bills. You talked a little bit. That's funny repception like
1:13:05
Taylor Rapp in inception. But I like that. That's a good one.
1:13:08
Well done. We talked about the offensive line a little bit. We didn't
1:13:14
talk about the defensive line, but we can talk a little bit a bit
1:13:15
more about the O line if you want, or the D line. We
1:13:17
can start wherever. How do you feel do you think the Bills improved on
1:13:20
the trenches? They take Dwayne Carter with their third round pick they acquired from
1:13:25
the Kansas City Chiefs, So effectively the Chiefs got Exavier worthy for the Bills,
1:13:29
getting key On Coleman and Dwayne Carter. So they get Dwayne Carter to
1:13:31
be that rotational three tech behind at Oliver. Then they also take Cedric van
1:13:35
pan Grainger, who you noted center from Georgia, who could potentially start.
1:13:40
I know there was some smoke that Aaron Kromer told him, or either Aaron
1:13:45
Kromer said or Brandon Bean said or Van pray Granger said something about him being
1:13:49
potentially being at guard. But I don't think he has the arms or the
1:13:53
size or frame profile to do it. But I mean Aaron Kromer knows far
1:13:57
better about offensive line plate than I do. So maybe there's some some fire
1:14:00
to that smoke, or maybe he wins out at center and pushes the McGovern
1:14:02
back to left guard, and then they do take the flyers, you know,
1:14:05
like you mentioned at the back end of day three, to kind of
1:14:09
add some athleticism and some dynamic to that group. If you're an opponent of
1:14:14
the Buffalo Bills, like you are, whether it's the Patriots or somebody else,
1:14:15
how do you feel about this trench grouping? You know, Dwyne Carter
1:14:17
could be potentially playing a significant role for this team being behind at Oliver and
1:14:21
how much the Bills rotate in NFL defenses rotate in general. Now that offensive
1:14:26
line that was such a sturdy group last year is much different with Mitch Morse
1:14:30
gone and Ryan Bates gone is a backup now Dave Edwards is the starter.
1:14:32
McGovern's the center. But you bring in Van Praan Granger all these pieces to
1:14:36
consider. What are your thoughts on the Bills trenches after this draft? Considering
1:14:42
you thought it was a position group they needed to address on both sides.
1:14:45
So in terms of the defensive line, I know they're an even front,
1:14:48
but I feel like the best way to maximize these guys would be with an
1:14:51
odd front, so you could have Econ Jones in the middle and then Carter
1:14:56
and at Oliver on the field at the same time, Especially if you're gonna
1:14:59
go with Carter in the third round when people were saying he was like a
1:15:01
fifth round pick, It's like he should probably be on the field a good
1:15:04
amount, not just rotating with your best player who you don't want to not
1:15:08
be on the field. We talked about that they don't have a lot of
1:15:11
depth, but also they don't really have great starters. That was the biggest
1:15:15
thing. It's like, yes, at Oliver is good, but then it's
1:15:16
kind of like, all right, Greg Russeau could become that guy. But
1:15:20
still it's a bit of a projection. I like Javon Solomon. I like
1:15:24
that you do get a pass rusher and that does give you something that you
1:15:27
were lacking. But even still it kind of feels like, yeah, so
1:15:30
you've got rotational pieces for a defensive line that really needed some guys. So
1:15:34
I feel like, are gonna be more significant contributors. I don't know,
1:15:39
like it doesn't totally move the needle for me. Again, like a situational
1:15:43
pass rusher can be a big difference maker, like we've seen that with Bryce
1:15:45
Huff when josh u Ja is in his bag. But you know, at
1:15:48
the same time, it just doesn't do a lot. He's still a fifth
1:15:51
round pick, von Solomon, Like, I'm not gonna go crazy or anything.
1:15:54
I'm gonna wait till he's on the field, even if I do think
1:15:57
he could be a quality player. And again, Dwayne Carter, I don't
1:15:59
know you would get a guy like that in the third round if you're not
1:16:01
intending on using him a lot. So I don't know if you know your
1:16:05
guys a scheme. I don't know if maybe they're gonna use more multiple fronts
1:16:10
to try to be more stout against the run, so you can get those
1:16:12
two big defensive tackles, maybe use your other guys as more like true outside
1:16:15
linebacker types. I don't know. You could also just do like still four
1:16:19
to three, where you know you can make all that work. I think
1:16:23
all the scheme stuff is all kind of blowny as launch you not to run
1:16:26
it, But defensive line doesn't really move the needle for me. Offensive line
1:16:30
is kind of similar, Like, yes, they got a good center,
1:16:33
so maybe Connor McGovern goes back to guard, and then it's kind of similar
1:16:38
to what you already had, which is like a it's a good offensive line.
1:16:41
I'm not saying it's bad or anything like that, but it doesn't do
1:16:44
so much where I'm like, oh, like, there really weren't honestly a
1:16:47
ton of picks in this draft for the Bills where I was really like,
1:16:50
Okay, that's tough. Keon's probably the closest thing. And I also understand
1:16:55
they had to make it work with the capitol they had and all that.
1:16:58
I do like what they did later also kind of both up the trenches.
1:17:00
I'm gonna try to make an effort there. I did appreciate that and the
1:17:03
defensive front in general in the offensive line, but yeah, man, I
1:17:06
just I feel kind of the same way about the trenches as I did before.
1:17:10
Maybe a little more worried in passing situations that you know, they're not
1:17:15
only relying on fifty year old von Miller to you know, give whatever he's
1:17:18
got weapon his lower body and try to get a sack. But yeah,
1:17:21
I like the moves. I if I were completely objective, would be fascinated
1:17:27
to see how these are going to develop and how they use these guys.
1:17:30
But yeah, I mean, you just didn't get I think the level of
1:17:32
impact player I would have expected considering what we were talking about, where one
1:17:36
the lineups aren't great where it's not a good rotation, and you do have
1:17:40
that, but even still, it's not a lot of guys where really you
1:17:44
go into the game and you're like, all right, you can't let that
1:17:46
guy wreck the game. It's really just at Oliver and then Daikwon Jones is
1:17:48
healthy. That's a fair point, and I think that's kind of where my
1:17:55
concern with how I thought the board was gonna fall, which is why I
1:17:58
wanted to go Like I still would have taken Johnny Newton at pick thirty three
1:18:02
because I thought he was even though he would be the backup to Ed Oliver,
1:18:08
he gives you such a strong top three with him, daikuon and Ed
1:18:12
and then on passing downs situations, it's Newton and Oliver who were on the
1:18:15
field, and I thought you needed I wanted him because I thought you needed
1:18:19
more of an impact player on that defensive line. I didn't think you were
1:18:24
gonna get one at edge. I thought the Big three would be gone before
1:18:26
you picked a twenty eight, which they were. My only hope was potentially
1:18:30
getting like Marshawn Neeland or Chris Braswell at sixty, but both of them were
1:18:33
gone, And even with brass Well, I don't think the pass rusher up
1:18:38
side is necessarily there, but I'll take I think he can be an edge
1:18:42
two in this league because of how he plays the run and then his ability
1:18:45
to go through dudes on the outside. He's got some moves, not a
1:18:46
ton I think the upside is higher for Neilan, but that's kind of what
1:18:51
I was hoping for in the d line because I didn't like how this edge
1:18:55
class really shook out. I think there is value to Solomon. I'm probably
1:18:58
gonna be putting out a film video on him later this week. I was
1:19:00
gonna do one on the back episode or the back end of the episode tonight,
1:19:03
but I have this crazy headache and I just could not stare at the
1:19:05
computer to cut up the film, so I couldn't get it done. But
1:19:09
you needed you needed impact players on the defensive line, and like we talked
1:19:13
about the last time, because you know Greg Russou, I think is an
1:19:16
edge one against the run. I think he's a two against the pass,
1:19:20
which is fine. He could be and he could be a one against both
1:19:23
by the time this year ends. With what his trajectory has been each year,
1:19:26
improving and improving, we have no idea what we're gonna get from von
1:19:29
Miller. I think the best possible hope is he can be an edge two,
1:19:33
which is fine. If if you got two two's, that's awesome,
1:19:36
but that means you don't have a one. Aj Avanessa is more of an
1:19:40
edge three. Maybe he can be a two. And then who's winning that
1:19:44
fourth spot? Is it Casey two Hill who they brought in from Washington,
1:19:46
who's more of a hustle dude and more of a run setting guy. And
1:19:50
the guy is it Kingsley Jonathan? Is it gonna be Javon Solomon? Like,
1:19:56
what is it? Dewan smoot Now who they brought in from Jacksonville who
1:19:59
also can deuced down and play some defensive tackle in passing? Yeah? Yeah,
1:20:03
I have liked him for several years. My biggest hope with it is
1:20:09
he tore his achilles in Week sixteen of twenty twenty two didn't come back until
1:20:15
mid October last year, started saying at the end of November he was finally
1:20:19
feeling better and starting to get into like shape that he would be in if
1:20:24
he got to do a training camp. So he wasn't really hitting stride until
1:20:27
like December, and even then it was he was still less than a year
1:20:30
removed from a torn achilles. So I'm hoping this could be like a one
1:20:34
year flyer where he recaptures more of who he was prior to twenty twenty three,
1:20:38
because who he was, dude, you said it, like, I
1:20:41
think he was so unappreciated on that d line because of what the Jags Josh
1:20:45
Hallen was and then drafting Trayvon Walker and the buzz around him. Smoot was
1:20:48
nasty off the edge and on the interior. He fits their mold of being
1:20:53
a compression style guy with some moves, but he's long, he's thick,
1:20:57
he's violent inside and outside. I think that could but that could end up
1:21:00
being a guy like does he win the fourth edge spot? But even so,
1:21:04
like, I don't think Smoot is built to be like necessarily like the
1:21:09
one that you need to pair with the Greg Russeau and then you're looking inside
1:21:12
and it's like, Okay, I think at Oliver Sweet. I think Daikon
1:21:15
Jones was going to be an All Pro last year head he stayed healthy.
1:21:18
But then what do you get after that? So you get Dwayne Carter,
1:21:21
who I think is that rotational three tech behind at Oliver. So you're hoping
1:21:24
trying to mitigate some of that pass rush and penetration drop off when at Oliver's
1:21:30
off the field. Austin Johnson or e Sehwan Williams is probably gonna be the
1:21:33
backup one tech to Dakwon Jones. I think it's more gonna be Austin Johnson
1:21:36
and then you figure out the rotation and kind of how it goes from there.
1:21:40
I like Dwayne Carter. I just think he's more of and I don't
1:21:44
mean this negatively, like he's just a role player. Like I think he's
1:21:46
gonna be a really solid rotational three tech. He's going to offer you some
1:21:49
pop and penetration. He'll make a couple tackles for losses in games and kind
1:21:54
of cause havoc. But I don't know how much he necessarily moves the needle
1:21:57
to your point in terms of striking fear and then offensively, I think that
1:22:01
that Van Pray Granger pick could end up being one of the best ones of
1:22:04
this draft if you get a starting center on Day three who fits your archetype
1:22:10
and your skill set of what you like at the position. I don't mind
1:22:14
Connor McGovern at center and Edwards at left guard, but Edward was so good
1:22:17
last year as that sixth offensive lineman, and McGovern was solid at left guard,
1:22:21
and even more so in the conversation, and people have pointed this out.
1:22:26
Dion Dawkins had arguably his best season ever as a pro last year playing
1:22:30
next to Connor McGovern as his left guard. I just think there's so many
1:22:33
positives towards keeping McGovern there and having that continuity, And then if you can
1:22:38
get a starting center with cost control who plays well in the fifth round,
1:22:43
that's like a really good value. And I think that kind of moves the
1:22:45
needle back towards getting that offensive line to where it was last year, where
1:22:49
I thought they were above average and solid and pass pro. Solid in the
1:22:53
run game, allowed you to be versatile and do so many things that one
1:22:57
gets me more excited. No disrespect Carter, I just think his ceiling is
1:23:02
maybe not even his ceiling, but I just think his role is rotational three
1:23:08
tech, especially with how he is. He gets displaced against the run on
1:23:13
base blocks and like solo blocks, but on double teams especially, and he's
1:23:16
got such tremendous hands. He's got shock ability in his hands, but he's
1:23:20
like late to shed all the time. You'll watch him jack dudes up and
1:23:25
then he's late to shed, doesn't make the tack on the running back runs
1:23:27
in the gap right next to him. So if he can clean up some
1:23:29
of those, he can be more impactful. I think Van prank Granger has
1:23:31
the biggest chance to move the needle because I think he's got the capability be
1:23:35
in every day, like every downstarter as a rookie or even going into year
1:23:40
two, depending on what you do. I think Carter will definitely provide value,
1:23:43
but it's gonna be more of a rotational role. But to your point,
1:23:46
I would have liked them again, and this is all depending on how
1:23:48
a board fell, especially defensively, I would have liked them to get more
1:23:53
of an impact player on the defensive line, just because I think there's so
1:23:55
many questions. Because to your point, I like the depth that they have.
1:23:59
They've got really good functional depth. They've got a bunch of twos and
1:24:01
threes and fours, which is awesome with how much you need to rotate.
1:24:05
I just don't think they have that top end quality, and that really kind
1:24:09
of scares me. But even though traditionally I am a fan of give me
1:24:14
as many B and B plus guys as you can, I'd rather take a
1:24:15
whole bunch of B pluses than have a couple a's and a bunch of B
1:24:19
minuses and c's. Give me all the b's and B pluses, Like,
1:24:23
build me an entire Madden team out of eighty five to eighty nine rating dudes,
1:24:28
I don't care, Like I don't want three or four ninety fives and
1:24:30
a bunch of like low eighties and seventies. Give me all the eighty fives
1:24:32
to eighty nine's. And I think that's what the Bills potentially could have on
1:24:38
the D line. But it scares me a little bit knowing they don't have
1:24:41
that top end. Granted they were a bit handcuff on how the board fell
1:24:44
in the capital that they did have. Yeah, I do agree. I
1:24:47
think the van Prank Van Pran Granger that's going to bed I just call them
1:24:53
VPG. It's hard That's what I'm going with, because the Van and the
1:24:57
Pran and the Granger, it's like Sally Sell the Seashore and I already screwed
1:25:01
that up. It's hard, man, It's all right, it's good late,
1:25:04
But yeah, no, in terms of the one that's gonna set one
1:25:08
of those units in line to be more successful, I would agree, like
1:25:11
if o Cyrus Torrance does take a step forward, doesn't get as lunch handed
1:25:15
to him twice a year by Christian Barmore, I do think that this could
1:25:18
be a line that legitimately does look even better than it did last season,
1:25:23
as solid as they were, especially as Yeah, and the offensive line is
1:25:28
still one that I came into the offseason thinking like, man, you know
1:25:31
what we can hang our hat on. You've got this really good offensive line,
1:25:34
this solid five. You've got a really great backup still in Ryan Bates,
1:25:40
even though Edwards has gone and then they traded Baits. Morse has gone
1:25:43
and they changed the one thing that I was super happy about, and then
1:25:46
Digs goes as well, And there's so many moving parts on the offense.
1:25:49
So if you would get me back to some stability on the offensive line,
1:25:55
man, yeah, I would really like that. Overall, you know,
1:25:59
we looked at some secific positions and kind of the spots that you thought the
1:26:01
Bills needed to address in the draft. Overall, when you look at this
1:26:04
Bills roster on paper, where do you think they currently are most vulnerable?
1:26:10
Now, this could be something on paper just looking at the roster, This
1:26:13
could be something schematic, anything and everything that comes to mind for you when
1:26:16
you look at this team or think of this Buffalo Bills team, where do
1:26:19
you think they are most vulnerable on the roster? I would say, is
1:26:26
Matt Malono going to be healthy to start the season? Oh yeah? Because
1:26:30
if not, I would say the middle of your defense is looking not great.
1:26:34
Especially again with Daikwon Jones. We don't really know what's going on with
1:26:38
him. Like I feel like that's probably a nerve that people are going to
1:26:42
try to hit and see if they can have success with all the moves.
1:26:45
So, like they draft Ulafotio, who I was thinking, like, okay,
1:26:49
special teams linebacker, maybe some upside ces athletic, but special team's guy.
1:26:53
They love taking linebackers on Day three. Cool, But they signed Nicholas
1:26:57
Morrow. They draft with Fotio, they bring it Dion Jones. You still
1:27:01
and then even on the roster, they still have Bail Inspector and they still
1:27:03
have Dorny and Williams, like they have all these linebackers. They've got like
1:27:08
fifty five linebackers right now. And yeah, like that that's been just creeping
1:27:13
in the back of my mind of like, granted you, this is a
1:27:16
good answer. We have no weaknesses, mister Patriot. That's very good.
1:27:19
I I just wondered because he he broke his leg Milano like it was a
1:27:25
nasty leg break, and I am also sure he I think he also tore
1:27:28
his ACL and his MCL because of how bad the break was. So that's
1:27:32
all injury, which it was a lot. I'm actually gonna look it up
1:27:35
right now as I'm talking to you, But that that does sound a lot
1:27:40
like what happened to Gronkin twenty thirteen when TJ. Warren and him low and
1:27:44
he flipped and like got torn a for an MCL. I think he broke
1:27:47
his leg and he got a concussion. It was is brutal. He where
1:27:53
is it? Oh? Yeah, he suffered a right tibio plateau fracture.
1:27:59
And anytime you break your TWI like that's I'm trying to find the specifics.
1:28:02
I thought he'd tough, tougher, tour more things. I'll find it,
1:28:06
uh at some point. But yeah, I think that that's a really sneaky
1:28:10
thing. And it's funny that you say that, because it's been in the
1:28:12
back of my mind. I'm like, they keep bringing in all these linebackers,
1:28:14
and I thought, is, okay, maybe it's just camp bodies and
1:28:15
depth, but they've like jumped the shark of like camp bodies and depth at
1:28:19
this point, Like they keep bringing in like more and more. I think
1:28:24
they're trying to tell him something. But yeah, like again, I like
1:28:27
it, Oliver. He doesn't scare me. And if day Kwan Jones isn't
1:28:30
the guy who you think is going to be available consistently, then it's like,
1:28:32
all right, ifty linebacking corps, inconsistent little of your defense in terms
1:28:38
of the trenches and then your safety situation. It's like he got good players,
1:28:42
but it's like, where do these guys fit? How's that gonna work
1:28:45
out? So early on, I would not be surprised if teams like try
1:28:47
to see how much they can get away with over the middle then off real
1:28:50
quick, real quick, sorry interrupt, I found it. So he sustained.
1:28:55
Milano said he sustained a fractured right tibia, which is the bone that
1:28:58
runs down the front of the leg just below the knee, but there was
1:29:01
no damage to any knee ligaments, so it's purely just bone breaks. So
1:29:05
I'm imagining that incorrectly. So okay, I feel better. I'm sorry to
1:29:09
continue. Are you good? And then so yeah, the middle of the
1:29:12
defense and then just like the receiving course still doesn't really scare me. I
1:29:15
just got to see it. Okay, that's really the thing for me because
1:29:17
I like Kean Coleman, but he just doesn't move the needle so much.
1:29:20
And I'm like, oh, because if it was like Yet, i'd be
1:29:23
or ad Mitchell, those are guys where it's like if you make a mistake,
1:29:27
they're gone, I hurt you, and like, yeah, they can
1:29:30
turn, you know, a slant where they got a step into see you
1:29:33
later. I'm gone. You know, I know, Adie Mitchell's not really
1:29:36
yet guy. But even downfield, we're talking like the double moves he has
1:29:40
if you hit him in stride, like he can just run away from coverage.
1:29:43
So if it were one of those guys, I'd feel much differently and
1:29:45
be like, all right, there's your alpha. Everybody else can kind of
1:29:47
play off him. I still like Keon. I just want to see how
1:29:50
they use him, how well he sings up with Josh, and then it's
1:29:55
like, all right, how well does he compliment Kinkaid and how does this
1:29:58
all work together? Because I still love James Cook. I really do think
1:30:00
that run game, especially with Ray Davis, is kind of thunder and lightning
1:30:03
the game Jack Moss where it's like, Okay, I see what you're doing
1:30:06
here. This is pretty exciting. But yeah, the pass catchers just don't
1:30:10
really do much for me. Like I'm you know, you're always worried about
1:30:13
Josh Allen and he can make everybody else look better. But I mean,
1:30:16
if it's like a man coverage down and the Patriots have, you know,
1:30:19
their best guys out there, I'm not, you know, I'm assuming that
1:30:23
they're probably gonna get a stop unless Josh pulls some out of his butt.
1:30:27
Let me flip that question and kind of ask you something similar, what on
1:30:30
this Bills team, aside from Josh Allen, if you're looking at this team,
1:30:35
what worries you or makes you fearful. Who's cook him by a mile?
1:30:40
He just cook himself with the like him overall or like the run Game
1:30:44
with him in it, both, but really like he's so dynamic. One
1:30:47
of the worst tackling games the Patriots had all season, Like they were a
1:30:50
very good teach they always are, but they were like statistically one of the
1:30:55
best tackling the first Bill's Patriots game last year, right, yeah, yeah,
1:30:59
we talked about it going into it. They were like a record pace
1:31:01
for like misstackles and broken tackles, like they weren't giving up ground for anything.
1:31:05
And Cook was there left and right, slipping dudes like everywhere, so
1:31:09
annoying, so annoying, Like that was when Jalen Mills had a bad when
1:31:13
Adrian Phillips had a bad when Kyle Duggart was like standing up straight and tried
1:31:16
to tackle him, and I was just like, Kyle, this is like
1:31:18
I love you, but this is the stuff that drives me up a freaking
1:31:21
wall, Like don't tackle people standing straight up. I don't know, ah,
1:31:27
but yeah, whenever when they played last year, I was like,
1:31:29
I don't want James Cook to just look so good at ripping off those long
1:31:32
runs, and it really is like if one guy misses him, he's getting
1:31:36
a lot of yards and you don't want him in the open field. So
1:31:40
there's no one else really on the roster who makes me feel that way.
1:31:43
Like I think Keon, I just need to see him as a pro.
1:31:45
Like if the Patrons are drafted him, I would have been at the front
1:31:47
of the bus for the fan club because we talked about it. I do
1:31:50
like him, but I also just want to see how he gets utilized and
1:31:53
if teams are gonna use him to the strengths. But yeah, no one
1:31:57
else on this team really scares me offensively. Yeah, and this is the
1:32:01
conversation we had where I said, if you take Josh Allen off this team,
1:32:04
who's scared of the Bills? No? One, be honest, They're
1:32:10
not very scary. I'm just big. Like the offensive line looks way more
1:32:14
average. I think. I think they have good players, especially run blocking,
1:32:16
but I think like without a guy like Josh Allen who can create,
1:32:19
who can you know, I don't want to put it all on him because
1:32:23
he gets himself into trouble as well. Yeah, he like this roster looks
1:32:26
a lot more like Okay, like, I wouldn't really notice on a calendar
1:32:30
if it weren't for Josh Allen. I don't like saying that, because if
1:32:32
you respect Bills Mafia, you know that I actually like you guys. But
1:32:35
that's just like, that's just what I see. I'm gonna take you when
1:32:40
you come here for Bill's Patriots, I'm gonna take you out to dinner and
1:32:44
get you jumped for how all the horrible things you just said looking at this
1:32:46
team going into twenty twenty four versus what they were last year, how much
1:32:51
as we currently sit right now coming out of the draft, and you know,
1:32:55
maybe they'll make some more roster moves going forward. Real quick, I'm
1:32:58
gonna be a distraction. Show that picture. You're gonna show that picture again.
1:33:00
I don't all of you in spirit leto you. He's not at the
1:33:04
Bills store. That's a fake Bills store. He photo shopped that note.
1:33:09
I got all the receipts, buddy, I got all of them that I
1:33:11
knew. When I saw you grabbing your phone, I was like, he's
1:33:14
gonna grab that picture of him in front of the Bill store. I knew
1:33:15
that's fair. That's fair. I like it. Pull their receipts. I
1:33:17
like, I love those mathia. You guys are a very good time.
1:33:20
People tried to give me crap and I was like, hey, I come
1:33:23
in peace. I just want to watch a good game, and you guys
1:33:26
had me deaf before the first half was over. So that's what I was.
1:33:30
Sorry, No, you're good. What was I saying? I forgot?
1:33:32
Oh, how much of it? Like looking at this team right now,
1:33:35
with what they look to be right now going into twenty twenty four on
1:33:39
paper, schematically, whole roster, whatever you're looking at thinking about versus what
1:33:44
they were at this time last year, forget about what they actually were in
1:33:48
twenty twenty three. No, it actually gets factor that in as well.
1:33:50
How much of a drop off do you think, like from the outside perspective
1:33:54
like that you've seen like for this team, like it as a person who
1:33:59
is an enemy and a own it covers a team that matters against the Buffalo
1:34:02
Bills because they play in the AFC East. You've already talked about it and
1:34:05
alluded to it a couple episodes ago, and then you know here again,
1:34:09
like what this team looks like without Josh Allen, how much of a drop
1:34:12
off do you think that there's been for this twenty twenty four roster right now
1:34:15
as it stands versus what it looked like and what it was in twenty twenty
1:34:18
three. It reminds me of Mahomes last year, but he doesn't have a
1:34:25
Travis Kelsey where it's like, all right, when worst comes to worse,
1:34:29
you at least have Kelsey and like, you know, other guys might let
1:34:31
you down, but they'll make it work. I don't want to say that
1:34:33
the Bills receiving Core is that inconsistent. I think they have good pros and
1:34:38
Curtis Samuel and I keep saying mac collins, I feel like he doesn't come
1:34:41
up. I'm just a really big fan of his, but I like it.
1:34:44
I love it. I love you championing mccollins out a huge He's an
1:34:46
interesting guy. He's your Bills Taekwon Thornton. Yeah, I think he is.
1:34:50
I think he is. I keep factoring him into these sets, and
1:34:53
then I feel like people are like, he's not gonna play Oh oh forgot
1:34:57
Chase Claypool, don't do that. We're not doing that. Talk about Chase
1:35:00
pare it to it. But anyway, I think that we would need Josh
1:35:04
Allen to have that type of season where Mahomes was like, I'm just going
1:35:09
to do whatever I need to do to win. I need to take a
1:35:12
step back and just do the stuff that's easy whenever defense has let me,
1:35:16
and then every once in a while when they slip up, I will stick
1:35:19
a dagger in their throat. Oh no, Josh can do that not consistently.
1:35:25
I know he has the capability because he always does against the Pats,
1:35:27
where other than last year, he always just like flits a switch and he's
1:35:30
like, oh, I'm playing the best defensive coordinator in history, and he's
1:35:32
throwing literally everything he can at me. Let me just take every check down
1:35:38
because everybody's you know, dropping back fifteen twenty yards. I've seen him do
1:35:41
it. I haven't seen him do it for like a month straight or two
1:35:44
months straight, or it's just like, wow, Josh is just gonna take
1:35:46
all the easy stuff. It happens sporadically, but I don't think this is
1:35:49
the kind of offense where him playing the hero ball stuff is gonna work.
1:35:54
I don't think they have enough dogs like that. I think Keon can be
1:35:56
that guy. I think Curtis are Dalton kin Cage and be that guy.
1:36:01
But again, like there's they're not guys where they terrify me, where I'm
1:36:05
like Dalton Kink that dude could put up one hundred and fifty like if you
1:36:11
don't pay. I just don't think he's that necessarily dangerous. And ke On
1:36:15
not having that like extra gear to really take the top off or like in
1:36:19
space he'll get a chunk play, but he's not really getting a home run
1:36:23
even with Javon Baker. That's my one reason that I don't think he's quite
1:36:26
wide receiver one upside. The only reason I really have him there and not
1:36:30
just as like elite wide receiver two is I think he's got a crazy mentality.
1:36:34
Bro b real quick, I'm going off tangent a little bit. He
1:36:38
was talking to Steve Smith during that like whole breakdown of the receivers thing,
1:36:41
and have you seen the Kobe documentary where he talks about how he would go
1:36:44
to tournaments as a kid and use his left hand because he was like,
1:36:46
I wanted to get better on the biggest stage. And Javon Baker goes.
1:36:53
I think he was talking about pats er Ten and when they were to practice
1:36:55
together at Bamba, and he goes, I don't want to attack what you're
1:36:58
weak at, like I already know what you're bad at. I want to
1:37:00
see what you're good at and how I stack up. It's like who even
1:37:02
talks like that? Who is who is going out on the football being like
1:37:06
I'm going to attack your strength when you are pat certain Like that's different And
1:37:12
that's the only reason I put him above Keon where I think athletically, like
1:37:16
they're different profiles. I think Baker's more like a bit more of a dynamic
1:37:20
mover and more of a separator, much more technical than right. But they're
1:37:24
not like burners or anything. But I just think while I do think Keon
1:37:28
has that dogging in two, I think Jayvon is just like a completely different
1:37:31
breed dude. He he And it's not quite there for me to add on
1:37:36
to that. I don't know if I said it the last time you were
1:37:38
here, when we were at the Senior Bowl, like his release packages were
1:37:43
like his release work was so good at the Senior Bowl. And so after
1:37:45
after the first practice I went up and asked him. I was like,
1:37:47
hey, like so about your releases and like, like how you're winning here
1:37:53
so far, and his response here's a response. I'm like, I'm kind
1:37:58
of getting it forbatible paraphrase. Today he was like, I already, I
1:38:01
already know what everyone's finn to do, so I'm just gonna go out and
1:38:03
beat him and that's it. And I was like all right, and then
1:38:08
Eric grabs him and like, I forget what quick? I think? Eric
1:38:12
asked him, like what's his mentality or like what he tries to do in
1:38:15
his separate and so some kind of question, and Baker's response was I just
1:38:18
go out there and kill the defensive back. Like he said opening press conference,
1:38:23
it got taken out of the transcript and they deleted it from the video.
1:38:26
He said, my mentality is to go out and kill whoever's across from
1:38:28
me. And I was just like, well, I'm not gonna let my
1:38:31
fingers lead the keyboard because this dude is gonna say some crazy boy was and
1:38:34
it was like the answer he gave me and the answer he gave Eric is
1:38:38
it wasn't like it. It wasn't obnoxious or like narcissistic or arrogant, like
1:38:45
he wasn't saying it like yeah, I'm gonna go out there and like he
1:38:48
was And this is what got me. It was just so matter of fact.
1:38:53
It was just like I already know what the finn to do, so
1:38:56
I'm just gonna go beat him. Oh yeah, I'm just gonna I'm going
1:38:58
to kill the dB. It wasn't like Twitter bio. I Oh yes,
1:39:03
I was gonna looked it up through the Senior Bowl. I couldn't. The
1:39:05
two Twitter profiles I remember from the Senior Bowl are Baker's, which says I
1:39:10
hate dvs, and then Malachi Quarterly's literally has like the yack king or yat
1:39:15
God like in the bio, and I was like, with a crown,
1:39:16
I think it's a yak king, and then he's got the crown with it.
1:39:19
Are you scared of him in the division? Are you scared of Malachi
1:39:23
Cora? I think he's fun. I think he's roll over hyped. Every
1:39:28
he's he doesn't win contested catches. He's got some technical stuff that is fun,
1:39:31
Like he showed more at the Senior Bowl than I thought he was going
1:39:33
to. But everything he does on tape is bubble screens running back like a
1:39:41
big running back. It's fun though he is he is a running back with
1:39:44
the ball in his hands and it's awesome. But he everything he does is
1:39:47
bubble screens, drags, tunnel screens, smoke screens like so that can be
1:39:54
fun. I think he has room to grow and he needs to, but
1:39:58
I like some of the things that he does. I just don't see.
1:40:00
I don't really gravitate towards dudes that don't have a lot of refinement or technicality
1:40:04
in his game. But I mean, he's so fun as an auxiliary piece,
1:40:09
and he's just a dude that you have to scheme touches for, like
1:40:14
he's the which is funny because you have Garrett Wilson there who it can just
1:40:16
go get you a bucket at like any time, whereas quarterly you have to
1:40:19
like scheme stuff open for him, which is interesting. Yeah, man,
1:40:23
I hate that. I hate that Bigger went to the past. I just
1:40:25
loved him so much. Like his mentality is just so and I know it
1:40:30
turned on like some people like kind of turn or rubbed the wrong way by
1:40:32
it, but it just like wasn't It's just so awesome to see a dude
1:40:38
talk like that and be like that, and it's not it's not for show,
1:40:42
it's not out of arrogance or it's this is just like how he approaches
1:40:45
the game, like I'm going out there to kill you, like that's it,
1:40:47
and it's not. He's not saying it for show or attention. And
1:40:49
I was like, oh that type of mentality any yes, And he blocks
1:40:55
his butt off like he puts dudes in the dirt like he's nasty on it
1:40:59
and even too, like you watch him too. One of my favorite clips,
1:41:02
Oh what is it? They're in the low red zone. It's last
1:41:05
year and he's the defense is in man coverage, but he doesn't go out
1:41:12
to block. He's in the slot. He doesn't go out to block the
1:41:14
safety. He goes out and like like you see, like they they run
1:41:16
routes a little bit to try and occupy him, and he goes out and
1:41:19
he runs a real route and shakes the safety and the safety falls down,
1:41:26
and then he turns around and points and there like yo, I got you.
1:41:29
Yeah, I just thought I just thought one to let them do No,
1:41:31
Yo, I cooked you. I just like that. But then two
1:41:34
does that too. Kean does the exact same price. He's I got some
1:41:38
clips where he pushes dudes to the ground and then he points to him and
1:41:40
let him know that he got him. But like the fact that he just
1:41:43
ran a real route to occupy the man. I just thought that was like
1:41:45
cool, and just like how he approaches the game, just the tenacity.
1:41:49
Like I hate using like, oh, he's a dog because like that,
1:41:53
I guess gets talked about so much now for someone, but he literally is
1:41:56
the epitome of that phrasing. Like and it's just awesome to see how he
1:42:00
plays the game. And I hate he was one of my favorite players in
1:42:02
this draft, like pre Senior Bowl, and then I saw him at the
1:42:04
Senior Bowl and loved him, and I just I was like, of course
1:42:06
he went to the Patriots. It reminded me of my favorite player a couple
1:42:11
of years ago in the whole draft was Trent McDuffie, and I was fighting
1:42:15
with so many people in the Bills content community and fans because everybody's like,
1:42:19
his arms are too short, he'll never succeed. I liked him and Roger
1:42:23
McCreary. Both of them had short arms, and Roger McCreary went and has
1:42:27
been the starting nickel for Tennessee even though he never played nickel ever at Auburn
1:42:30
and has been functioning well for them, but I love McDuffie so much,
1:42:34
and then the Chiefs traded up for him, and it just like ripped my
1:42:38
heart. I was like, I can't even like he went to a team,
1:42:40
Like I can't even roof for it. Like last year, I felt
1:42:43
better. I loved Elijah Canty and I loved Kobe Turner. Kancy went to
1:42:45
the Bucks, Turner went to the Rams. I was like, oh,
1:42:47
cool, like two teams I don't hate. I can watch Tom play football
1:42:50
sweep. And when Baker went to the Past, I was just like,
1:42:54
man, like this sucks, Like it's just yeah, he just the way
1:42:58
he approaches the game is so cool and kind of just to see that,
1:43:00
and man, it's it'll be funny too, to kind of see what the
1:43:03
Pats getting May and Polk and Baker and then the Bills. I guess,
1:43:10
you know, throwing like Coleman into that mix from you know, the Pats
1:43:13
have an opportunity with their young core to kind of turn some things around.
1:43:15
And I think about Pop not Rookie outviously, yeah, yah about the young
1:43:19
core. Oh absolutely, And it'll be funny too. You mentioned the beginning.
1:43:24
I guess I never really thought of it like I will probably tie in,
1:43:27
especially because Coleman went first, Like Baker and Polk and Coleman. I
1:43:31
can see that being two years from now with Bill's fans being like, oh,
1:43:33
should have just taken Jaln Polk, Like, look how he's killing it.
1:43:35
Oh should have taken Baker in the second said the Pats got him in
1:43:39
the fourth and he's crushing it. Like how all those things get woven together
1:43:43
and combined like for years as we do this dance forever. One other thing
1:43:46
about Baker I want to point out is because people get rubbed the wrong way
1:43:50
by his attitude and what he says. I like was putting out stuff about
1:43:55
like the show is on field character because there are so many times where you'll
1:43:58
see like guys just don't dude, oh awesome, where guys kind of phone
1:44:02
it in and sometimes you can't really blame him, like we talked about that
1:44:05
with Adi Mitchell, where sometimes it's like, all right, if it plays
1:44:08
away from you, not the worst thing in the world if you're not running
1:44:10
full speed. There was one game or like three times this dude is sprinting
1:44:15
downfield to catch up with a teammate or to throw a block. It was
1:44:19
three times in one game, and he does that consistently where you see like
1:44:24
he'll be downfield because he ran his ISO route, then sees somebody's coming and
1:44:28
he'll throw a block. He doesn't aways sustain it necessarily. I think he'd
1:44:30
get better there. But when you just see like, dude, don't see
1:44:33
tape where it's like, yeah, this guy's all about him, but he's
1:44:35
not really Like no, he loves football and he is going to do whatever
1:44:41
he needs to do on the field to make sure he contributes and stays on
1:44:44
the field. Like my thing is, Dude, I think he's gonna play
1:44:46
more than Jalen Polk even though he got drafted later because one he's an X
1:44:50
they need an X game. I don't see how you put Javon Baker knowing
1:44:55
him the way we do. How is he gonna be on the bench.
1:44:58
I think he will lose his g D mind if he is on the bench
1:45:01
for like multiple weeks. I don't think he would allow himself to know.
1:45:04
I was gonna say, like, I don't think he'll like he not from
1:45:10
like a Oh, he's gonna throw a fit and freak out like he just
1:45:14
lose. Yeah, he won't lose to the point that he's gonna end up
1:45:15
being on the bench. Like that's just not not gonna happen. Like and
1:45:19
oh and I saw what clip? Did I see? Oh? I forget
1:45:24
and I forget who it was. It was a clip from Alabama from a
1:45:27
couple of years ago, and it was one of their receivers, just talking
1:45:30
about the receiver grouping and they were loaded at receiver at the time, and
1:45:33
the guy was just like, no, like Baker and we kept talking about
1:45:36
Jabon Baker and Javon Baker and I was just like, oh, like that's
1:45:39
pretty cool, and yeah, seems learned from like Waddle and uh who else
1:45:43
was there at the time, Uh, Devonte Smith Smith. Yeah, like
1:45:47
they just and it wasn't damn it was. I forget it was talking because
1:45:50
it wasn't either of them. And oh just yeah like his track record,
1:45:54
man, Yeah, I I'm annoyed that he went to the Pats and then
1:45:58
they got Drake May, like so stupid. How do you feel about Jaheim
1:46:00
Bell now we're making it a patch show. I liked him more on tape
1:46:04
than I did at the Senior Really. I liked the Senior Bowl clips more
1:46:10
than I liked his tape field more and I was like, oh, so
1:46:14
he can do this. They used him downfield and in Florida State, I
1:46:17
felt like not a ton. I felt like it was like three or four
1:46:20
where he's adjusting and I'm like, he can do this, why so that's
1:46:25
what it was. It was only like one or two a game tops,
1:46:29
But the movement and his adjustments downfield I thought were cool. And then you
1:46:32
factor in like his physicality and what he can do. Like I thought he
1:46:34
was an underrated piece. I mean, he bawled out in that opening game
1:46:39
against LSU, like he had so many good moments. I thought he was
1:46:42
a sneaky fun part. Like the majority of the year was Travis and then
1:46:46
Coleman and Wilson were the talk, and then Benson started to emerge. But
1:46:49
I thought Bell was a sneaky one and I thought he was fine at the
1:46:53
Senior Bowl. I liked him more on tape because of his athleticism and the
1:46:56
downfield stuff. But you know, screw the Patriots, whatever anything else on
1:47:00
your mind before we go. If you know any of you don't have anything,
1:47:03
that's fine. The floor is yours. So any parting thoughts, any
1:47:06
analysis pieces. If not, you can tell everybody who you are and what
1:47:10
you do and all that stuff. The floor is yours for anything and everything.
1:47:14
I will say I'm hoping and I think we will get some more competitive
1:47:16
AFC East games involving the Patriots. Oh real quick, actually, before you
1:47:21
do, let me ask you one question. Who wins the AFC East in
1:47:25
twenty twenty four? Dolphin? Oh, you almost threw up a healthy Jets
1:47:34
team. Honestly, this isn't like the AFC beast that it was last year.
1:47:39
I feel like there's just there's a lot of exposed cracks. Like even
1:47:43
with the Dolphins having obj Man Patrick Paul, which makes me feel better about
1:47:46
their tackle situation a little bit. I just don't think, too is that
1:47:49
guy. Until I'm proven I like him, I don't think he's that guy.
1:47:54
You got to put money, You got to put your life savings down
1:47:57
right now on somebody to win the AFC. You gotta put it down.
1:48:01
Can the Jet because if it's the Jets, cool, can they stay healthy?
1:48:04
Is it too? Is it the Bills? I'm gonna say Bills because
1:48:09
of Josh Allen. Like literally, that's the defaults. I don't think the
1:48:11
Jets are gonna stay healthy. I don't think the Pats are there yet.
1:48:13
I think they're gonna be better than people think the Patriots. I think they
1:48:15
might sneakily be one of the more explosive teams in the league, just because
1:48:18
of how the scheme works and what their quarterbacks are. Like. This isn't
1:48:21
Zappi and Mac Jones. We're talking about Jacoby who's still got a cannon like
1:48:25
dude can still throw downfield, and Drake May and then yeah, I just
1:48:29
don't think Tua is that guy. I I hope he preves me wrong.
1:48:32
I really like him as a person at rooting for him, But yeah,
1:48:36
I would have to put it on Josh allen shoulder. The Jets are.
1:48:40
I'm gonna say the same thing for this year that I said last year,
1:48:43
and again it's something in the water over there. But if the Jets are
1:48:45
healthy, and I know every year, I guess they kind of put themselves
1:48:48
in it because they can't stay healthy. But I feel like if so many
1:48:50
people are just in the mindset of like laugh out loud Jets like whatever and
1:48:54
write them off. Man, if they're healthy, they are such a problem
1:48:57
if they say such. But like last year, people were singing their praises.
1:49:00
They're better this year than they were last year. If you're talking about
1:49:03
how they're entering the season, and I was saying when Tyrone Smith signed,
1:49:06
I was like, oh he went to a competitor. People were like,
1:49:09
or a contender. It was like, oh, it's just the Jets.
1:49:12
Like were we talking about what were you saying this time last year? Everyone's
1:49:15
freaking Oh the Jets. They're crown them already, They're going to the super
1:49:19
Bowl, and now they get better players, two offensive linemen from one of
1:49:23
the best offensive lives in the league, or we're gonna pretend that they're just
1:49:26
bad. Acknowledge the health for sure, but it's so ridiculous to me to
1:49:30
act like they're this like no nothing team when their defense is banger and they
1:49:35
still have Aaron Rodgers like he's a pocket quarterback. It's not like he's running
1:49:40
around or anything. Like. As long as they don't get him killed in
1:49:43
the first game of the season, I think they'll be fine. Last year,
1:49:45
so stupid how people just default not no offense. Anybody who thinks this.
1:49:50
It just grinds my gears because everybody was just loving the Jets, and
1:49:55
now you know they have the injuries and they got a little bit of reality
1:49:58
and it's a complete other end of the spectrum. I just don't get that.
1:50:00
No, And I'm in a similar boat, like I think their defense
1:50:02
is still so real, and all you just need is halfway decent offense,
1:50:08
and even if Mike Williams falls apart, their offensive line should be significantly better.
1:50:13
And then you got Breece and you got Garrett Wilson. We'll see what
1:50:15
Aaron Rodgers looks like coming back, and it's still like and then even the
1:50:18
defense, like they lost Huff and just replaced him like with Hassan and then
1:50:27
and which is nuts? I forgot they got As you were talking here,
1:50:31
I was like, who did they take in the first round? Cause I
1:50:33
remember they traded back. I couldn't remember. I forgot they took Olu.
1:50:36
Yeah, like just and if again he hasn't Madam will stay healthy. But
1:50:40
like if Elijah Vera Tucker stays healthy, he's really good. And then what's
1:50:44
his face? What they took from Wisconsin last year? Who's their starting center?
1:50:48
Smint's Schmidt's No friggin' I can't believe. I can't remember. I liked
1:50:55
him so much last year. I think Joe Tipman, thank you off the
1:50:58
top of my head. Huge man, huge monster of a man, especially
1:51:01
for center. But yeah, man, if they can stay healthy. Sorry,
1:51:03
So okay, So your prediction Mike Williams Garrett Wilson, that's a pretty
1:51:08
solid receiving. And see that's what's funny about Corley. Like, Mike Williams
1:51:12
is probably gonna get banged up. I'm not even saying that to make a
1:51:14
joke. He just can't stay healthy. But like, Williams could be a
1:51:15
two if he can stay healthy. But even if, like, if you
1:51:18
just get ten games out of Mike Williams, that's a win, and Williams
1:51:23
plus Wilson and then you can just scheme some stuff off for Malachi Corley and
1:51:27
you still have Breis Hall with that line and with Rogers, like I think
1:51:30
they could be a somebody. But I like a prediction of like your thoughts,
1:51:32
I interrupted you though, Flora's yours whatever you want. If you want
1:51:35
to close this episode out, tell everybody about you speak on war in peace.
1:51:41
Whatever you want. Flora is yours, less war and more peace.
1:51:45
Nice and Alvin. I love this audience. You guys are the best as
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always. Thank you so much for welcoming me in to your humble abode.
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Always a pleasure and buddy love talking to you always. I might have to
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Swift active, good comments. You're awesome. But yeah, everybody you're You're
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That'll change every time you're here. No, I'm just kidding. And
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