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- 0:38Crista Cowan: In May of 2012, I found myself on the front porch of a rundown old farmhouse back up in a tiny little holler in Northeast Tennessee.
- 0:54Crista Cowan: I had walked up onto that porch a little trepidatious.
- 0:58Crista Cowan: My parents were sitting in the rental car in the driveway behind me, I think with the doors locked.
- 1:04Crista Cowan: And as I knocked on the door, a woman opened the door.
- 1:10Crista Cowan: Now there was a screen between us, which I'm very grateful for because there was also a very large dog that kind of lunged a little bit at the door.
- 1:18Crista Cowan: And in that exact moment, I wasn't sure whether she was going to sick the dog on me or invite me in for sweet tea.
- 1:25Crista Cowan: I had gone there because we had been in Rogersville, Tennessee, just a little bit northwest of where we were at that farmhouse.
- 1:36Crista Cowan: And we had been to the Historical Society where I had been looking for information about my Revolutionary War ancestor, Daniel Jones.
- 1:46Crista Cowan: And I had been informed by the Local Historical Society that he was buried on a piece of property that he used to own that was still in the family and was a few miles outside of town.
- 2:00Crista Cowan: They had given me directions, like only people from Tennessee can give directions about driving over the creek and past the old oak tree and turning right.
- 2:12Crista Cowan: I mean, like it was amazing that we found this place.
- 2:16Crista Cowan: And for a split second, as I stood there on that porch staring at that dog through that screen door, I wasn't sure we actually had followed the directions correctly.
- 2:27Crista Cowan: Because middle of nowhere, hollering, Tennessee, I don't see anywhere where this soldier could be buried.
- 2:38Crista Cowan: But I very carefully explained to this woman that I was a descendant of Daniel Jones and that I had heard that he was buried there on her property.
- 2:48Crista Cowan: Now in Tennessee, I think, like in some places, there is a law that if somebody is buried on private property, the property owners have to provide right of way to anybody who wants to visit the grave.
- 3:03Crista Cowan: And so she gave me directions about how to walk back along the line of her property up a little hill through a field into a thicket of trees where I would find his gravestone.
- 3:17Crista Cowan: And then I asked her, are we related?
- 3:21Crista Cowan: And she kind of gave me a half smile and said, I reckon so.
- 3:27Crista Cowan: And then she proceeded to explain to me how she was related to Daniel Jones.
- 3:33Crista Cowan: She didn't invite me in for sweet tea, but she also didn't stick her dog on me.
- 3:37Crista Cowan: So I call it a win.
- 3:39Crista Cowan: Now, that particular trip that my parents and I took that year, that was a cross-country trip.
- 3:47Crista Cowan: We had left Utah in uh early, actually late April, and we had driven from Utah down to Texas, and then from Texas down to New Orleans.
- 3:58Crista Cowan: When we were in New Orleans, that was the first time that we met those Cowan cousins down in New Orleans that I talk about way back in episode one.
- 4:07Crista Cowan: And my brother, uh Cameron, one of my brothers, flew in from Utah to join us.
- 4:15Crista Cowan: So he couldn't be with us the whole time, but he flew into New Orleans.
- 4:18Crista Cowan: And then we proceeded to drive along the Gulf Coast for a few days.
- 4:22Crista Cowan: We spent some time in Florida.
- 4:24Crista Cowan: We spent some time in uh Charleston.
- 4:28Crista Cowan: Uh, and ultimately we were in Charleston for the National Genealogical Conference.
- 4:34Crista Cowan: Then we, after the conference was over, uh, Cameron flew on to England for a business trip.
- 4:40Crista Cowan: And my parents and I headed up through North Carolina and into that little tiny corner of Northeast Tennessee.
- 4:50Crista Cowan: Now, Tennessee and North Carolina, and Virginia and South Carolina, like back then the borders were mostly just suggestions back when my Revolutionary War ancestor lived there.
- 5:06Crista Cowan: And there was even sometimes some disputes over what property belonged to which colony at the time.
- 5:14Crista Cowan: Virginia had pretty strong claim because they had been a colony for so long.
- 5:20Crista Cowan: North Carolina was not just just south of them, but also right behind them in terms of people who had settled there.
- 5:27Crista Cowan: And my ancestor, Daniel Jones, was born in March of 1757 in Orange County, North Carolina.
- 5:37Crista Cowan: Now, Orange County was named for a member of the British Royal Family, King George of Revolutionary War fame King George.
- 5:45Crista Cowan: King George's son was the Duke of Orange, and so they named it Orange County.
- 5:50Crista Cowan: Um, and the place that Orange County sits, you might be familiar with Charlotte, North Carolina, sits right uh in that region.
- 5:59Crista Cowan: It's called the Piedmont, and it's the region between the coast and the mountains, particularly the Appalachian Mountains.
- 6:08Crista Cowan: And it was starting to be settled more and more by Scots-Irish and by Germans, and so the British influence was starting to have some, not just competition, but some animosity.
- 6:24Crista Cowan: So that's what Daniel was born into in those short decades before the Revolutionary War officially broke out.
- 6:33Crista Cowan: Now we often think of, and especially this year, the 4th of July 1776, as yes, the year we claimed our independence, but that's not the year we actually became a recognized country.
- 6:50Crista Cowan: That didn't happen until 1783.
- 6:53Crista Cowan: The Declaration of Independence, while there had been a lot of skirmishes and conflicts before that, that was the beginning of the war.
- 7:02Crista Cowan: And so that's the world that Daniel's growing up in.
- 7:07Crista Cowan: The Mecklenburg Declaration actually happened a year before the Declaration of Independence when North Carolina decided to claim their independence from British rule.
- 7:18Crista Cowan: And that sent down a rain of British military into South Carolina through Charleston, up through North Carolina into the Charlotte area.
- 7:30Crista Cowan: Well, um there's an interesting thing you need to know about how the US, particularly those American colonists as they were forming this new nation, how they felt about standing military.
- 7:47Crista Cowan: Standing military is a term that means that we have a national defense.
- 7:54Crista Cowan: And we have a standing military now, right?
- 7:57Crista Cowan: People can join the armed forces and they can make that a career, or they can sign up for a period of time for four years.
- 8:06Crista Cowan: I have a brother and sister-in-law who served in the U.S.
- 8:09Crista Cowan: Air Force as career military.
- 8:12Crista Cowan: I have a grandfather, two grandfathers who both enlisted in the army during the uh World War II.
- 8:19Crista Cowan: And both of them enlisted for the duration of the war plus six months.
- 8:26Crista Cowan: So that they became part of that standing army.
- 8:30Crista Cowan: But back in the 1700s, this concept of a standing army was a real problem for the colonists.
- 8:40Crista Cowan: And so they had local militia.
- 8:43Crista Cowan: And the local militia were everyday people, farmers and blacksmiths, individuals who worked in the community and served and were just trying to build a life, particularly in some of these frontier towns of eastern uh western North Carolina and what would ultimately become East Tennessee.
- 9:05Crista Cowan: And so Daniel, uh in 1778, he got married when he was 21 years old in Hillsboro, North Carolina.
- 9:16Crista Cowan: And then in 1779, in December, at 22 years of age, he joined the militia.
- 9:23Crista Cowan: He joined as a private under Captain Trousdale's company, serving with Colonel Archibald Little's regiment.
- 9:31Crista Cowan: And they marched from Hillsboro to Charleston.
- 9:35Crista Cowan: Now I looked it up.
- 9:36Crista Cowan: To march from Hillsborough to Charleston took probably about three to four weeks, depending on how many troops were with them and what the conditions were of the road.
- 9:49Crista Cowan: Now it was winter time, and so the roads could have been a mess.
- 9:54Crista Cowan: They could have been clear.
- 9:56Crista Cowan: I didn't look it up for that particular year.
- 9:58Crista Cowan: But they marched from Hillsborough to Charleston because they had word that General Cornwallis or Lord Cornwallis's armies were going to be arriving.
- 10:08Crista Cowan: And so they were setting up breastwork in that city to protect it from siege because they thought it was going to end up under siege.
- 10:17Crista Cowan: The time that Daniel enlisted for was from December of 1779 to the 24th of March 1780.
- 10:27Crista Cowan: And so on the 24th of March 1780, Captain Trousdale's company left Charleston to go back to Hillsboro in North Carolina.
- 10:38Crista Cowan: And five days later, the siege started on Charleston.
- 10:44Crista Cowan: And within six weeks, the city of Charleston fell to the British Army.
- 10:48Crista Cowan: Now, interestingly enough, by the time he arrived back in Hillsboro, Daniel re-enlisted.
- 10:58Crista Cowan: The reason their enlistment periods were so short was because no standing army, they are part of the militia.
- 11:04Crista Cowan: And so their enlistment periods are just for short periods of time because a lot of these men wanted the opportunity to go back in in the spring and plant their crops and in the fall and harvest their crops.
- 11:17Crista Cowan: And they're trying to keep life running while also still trying to defend the country.
- 11:23Crista Cowan: And so he immediately enlisted, which I find really interesting, turned around, enlisted again.
- 11:30Crista Cowan: This time he enlisted from April of 1780 to September of 1780.
- 11:36Crista Cowan: He enlisted with Captain Wood's company, and uh he ended up at the Battle of Camden.
- 11:45Crista Cowan: Now, the Battle of Camden is a particularly harsh battle in the Revolutionary War, but it also is kind of a pivotal battle for a couple of reasons.
- 11:57Crista Cowan: General Gates on the US side and General Lord Cornwallis on the British side had troops that came together in Camden.
- 12:09Crista Cowan: And General Gates had 4,000 soldiers, one of which was Daniel Jones.
- 12:16Crista Cowan: He was serving as a guard at the time.
- 12:18Crista Cowan: His job was to keep watch, to watch for the enemy, to get information as runners came in or spies came in and to make sure it got delivered to the right people.
- 12:31Crista Cowan: So he's a guard with General Gates' army of 4,000 people.
- 12:35Crista Cowan: General Lord Cornwallis, he he had 2,000 troops.
- 12:44Crista Cowan: So half the size of the militia, the British Army was half the size.
- 12:51Crista Cowan: Now, on the morning of August 16th, 1780, very, very early in the morning, it was essentially the middle of the night.
- 13:02Crista Cowan: Both armies, independent of each other and unbeknownst to each other, had the same idea that they were going to have a sneak attack on the other army.
- 13:13Crista Cowan: So, middle of the night, under cover of darkness, these two armies start advancing on each other and very quickly realize what's happening.
- 13:24Crista Cowan: And within hours, this battle becomes one of the worst defeats of the Revolutionary War for the Patriots.
- 13:36Crista Cowan: Even with double the size of the army, they lost, either through death, wounded, or being captured, about half of those that were there.
- 13:48Crista Cowan: Cornwallis, half the army, only 2,000 soldiers, only about 10% of his soldiers suffered death or were wounded or captured.
- 14:02Crista Cowan: And General Gates, instead of leading his troops further into battle or calling his troops to retreat, essentially ran away.
- 14:12Crista Cowan: As a matter of fact, he fled so fast that they said he made it 180 miles in just a few days to get away from that.
- 14:21Crista Cowan: He was very shortly thereafter relieved of his command, and someone else was put in charge, which is a good thing, because that was in the end of August or the middle of August in 1780, worst defeat of the Revolutionary War in that region.
- 14:38Crista Cowan: Within two months, we're going to see a battle that changes the tide for the Patriots.
- 14:47Crista Cowan: And they they ascribe that to the fact that because of the disorganization, because of the militia concept instead of the standing army concept, and because of the training that some of these leaders did not have that led someone like General Gates to flee, that there were changes made quickly enough that by the time they got to Kings Mountain a couple of months later, there was a very different outcome.
- 15:11Crista Cowan: You'll hear all about the Battle of Kings Mountain in a couple of months when we talk about South Carolina.
- 15:18Crista Cowan: But what I want to talk about, the story that I want to tell now, has to do with what happened to Daniel after that.
- 15:27Crista Cowan: Because he goes from this battle in August, he's he's um discharged in September, and once again, he immediately turns around and re-enlists.
- 15:43Crista Cowan: So he re-enlists again in Hillsborough in September of 1780, but he only this time enlists for one month.
- 15:53Crista Cowan: And this time, Cornwallis' armies now are advancing.
- 15:59Crista Cowan: They're advancing on North Carolina, they're headed to Charlotte, and there is a lot of chaos.
- 16:06Crista Cowan: One of the things that Cornwallis was doing was he was sending out other captains to flank him.
- 16:13Crista Cowan: And what they were doing was they were scouring the countryside to find loyalists that they could recruit to their cause, because there was the standing British Army, but if they could collect loyalists to fight for them or to be spies for them or to cause problems for the Patriots, they figured that that was a good use of their time.
- 16:33Crista Cowan: Well, Daniel's job, as he reenlisted in September of 1780 with Captain William Rogers' company under Major O'Neill, was, and I quote, to harass, harass British and loyalist supply lines and troops as Cornwallis moves north.
- 16:54Crista Cowan: And so that's what he got to do for the last couple of months that he was in service in the militia.
- 17:01Crista Cowan: I don't know exactly what that looks like, but I do know that we can read it with a lot of detachment now and almost amusement, but the realities of war are often not that at all.
- 17:15Crista Cowan: Um, and so I just can't even imagine in this community that he grew up in, in this community where his wife is living, they didn't yet have any children, or at least not any children that I've found so far.
- 17:28Crista Cowan: It's very possible that they could have had a child or two by this point that might have, um she might have been pregnant.
- 17:34Crista Cowan: Like, I don't know, there's no record of that.
- 17:37Crista Cowan: But here's this community where his family lives, and he's trying to protect his community, and he's trying to protect their way of life.
- 17:45Crista Cowan: And to know that the British Army is advancing on your community after having just suffered that level of defeat a month or two earlier has to have been a hard thing.
- 17:57Crista Cowan: But nevertheless, his role was to harass the British and Loyalist supply lines and troops as Cornwallis moved north.
- 18:08Crista Cowan: Well, that is the last record that I have of Daniel serving in the Revolutionary War.
- 18:17Crista Cowan: The war doesn't end officially for three more years with the Treaty of Paris, when the United States of America is officially declared a recognized country.
- 18:28Crista Cowan: And yet those critical months in 1780 really were, with that defeat and then that turning of the tide, kind of the change that needed to happen for the Patriots to have hope that this was possible for them to win this war.
- 18:48Crista Cowan: So I don't know why Daniel didn't enlist again, maybe not right away, maybe after harvest season, but he didn't.
- 18:56Crista Cowan: And I know that he didn't, or at least I'm fairly certain that he didn't, because several years later in 1832, when he was nearing the end of his life, he applied for a Revolutionary War pension.
- 19:06Crista Cowan: And his pension file contains all of the details about who he served under and the periods of time in which he served.
- 19:15Crista Cowan: And so that's where the story comes from.
- 19:17Crista Cowan: Just a few lines in a pension file that lists dates of service and captains he served under that sent me down a rabbit hole of researching who these captains were and exactly where their troops were and what they were doing.
- 19:31Crista Cowan: And it paints such a vivid picture of that early part of Daniel's life.
- 19:37Crista Cowan: Now, as Daniel left the service, we know that he eventually ended up in Hawkins County, Tennessee.
- 19:45Crista Cowan: Now, here's what you need to know about Hawkins County, Tennessee.
- 19:47Crista Cowan: It sits, like I said, right in that tiny corner of Northeast Tennessee, where it borders Virginia on the north and North Carolina on the east.
- 19:58Crista Cowan: And for a really long time, um, North Carolina, Tennessee didn't exist.
- 20:04Crista Cowan: The North Carolina Territory, that colony, extended out through what we now know of as Tennessee.
- 20:12Crista Cowan: Interestingly enough, there are people uh in Virginia who thought they owned part of that territory.
- 20:18Crista Cowan: The the boundary of where those states now uh exist was not clear and was not well communicated.
- 20:27Crista Cowan: Today, Hawkins County is the largest county in Tennessee, and part of that is because of the way that it developed.
- 20:34Crista Cowan: It developed because it sat on the route of three major migratory trails.
- 20:42Crista Cowan: The trails that went from Virginia down into Tennessee and West, and the trails that went from Virginia down into the newly opened at the time Florida territories.
- 20:54Crista Cowan: And so you have the uh Holston River, which was the initial and major migratory route.
- 21:02Crista Cowan: You have the Knoxville to Abingdon Road, which is where there were several forts and um supply stations along that particular route.
- 21:13Crista Cowan: And then you have the Great Indian War Path.
- 21:17Crista Cowan: All three of those major migratory routes went through what is now Hawkins County, Tennessee.
- 21:24Crista Cowan: So if you ever are doing your family history and find somebody randomly born there or somebody stopping there for a, you know, a few years before moving on to somewhere else, it's probably because they were taking one of those routes, and that was the way they went.
- 21:42Crista Cowan: Now, in 1789, we know that Daniel was in Hawkins County, Tennessee, and settled there by then.
- 21:52Crista Cowan: He and his wife had a few children before that.
- 21:56Crista Cowan: Their oldest child was born in 1783, the year.
- 21:59Crista Cowan: That uh the Paris Treaty, the Treaty of Paris was signed.
- 22:04Crista Cowan: But uh we're not exactly sure where those older children were born.
- 22:08Crista Cowan: There's conflicting reports about North Carolina versus Tennessee.
- 22:13Crista Cowan: And it could be just because Tennessee was part of North Carolina, or it could be because they actually moved from where they had been living, near Hillsboro, and over into where they would eventually end up near Rogersville, which is the town in Hawkins County that Daniel and his family originally settled near.
- 22:37Crista Cowan: But in 1789, we see a really interesting entry into a tax book.
- 22:43Crista Cowan: And it's the first record we have definitively of him in this county.
- 22:49Crista Cowan: And it is he is registering a stray boar.
- 22:55Crista Cowan: Right?
- 22:57Crista Cowan: Apparently, there was a law on the books at the time that said that if you found a stray animal, any stray animal, a boar, a horse, a cow, uh, like whatever the stray animal was, a chicken, like it just doesn't matter.
- 23:14Crista Cowan: If the animal was a stray, you had to register it, and you had to pay two-thirds of the assessed value of that animal in a tax.
- 23:26Crista Cowan: And then you had to keep that animal and keep it fed and cared for for 12 months.
- 23:34Crista Cowan: And if you did that, at the end of the 12 months, you could claim that animal as yours.
- 23:40Crista Cowan: So we have this random entry in a taxbook for Daniel in 1789 that he registered a stray boar.
- 23:48Crista Cowan: And that is why we know that he was in Hawkins County by at least that point.
- 23:53Crista Cowan: Now, I have images in my head because I've been to this little holler now.
- 23:59Crista Cowan: I've seen the way that a holler.
- 24:02Crista Cowan: Do you know what a holler is?
- 24:03Crista Cowan: It's this tiny little narrow valley in between two mountain ridges, and we're talking Tennessee Appalachian Mountain mountain ridges, not Rocky Mountain ridges.
- 24:14Crista Cowan: And almost always there's like a little creek or stream that runs through the bottom of it.
- 24:19Crista Cowan: That's how the little valley was created to begin with.
- 24:22Crista Cowan: And so you've got these little hollers with little creeks running through them.
- 24:28Crista Cowan: And oftentimes families would find that very fertile ground and they would, that's where they would settle.
- 24:35Crista Cowan: And then the family would grow in the hauler.
- 24:38Crista Cowan: But the interesting thing about the haulers is that it keeps them isolated.
- 24:42Crista Cowan: And so you might have two or three families that end up settling there.
- 24:46Crista Cowan: And if you've ever done family history in Tennessee or places with similar geography, you know that you end up with lots of intermarriage between families.
- 24:56Crista Cowan: You might have two or three siblings from one family marrying, you know, two or three siblings from the other family that lived across the creek.
- 25:03Crista Cowan: And now you've got double first cousins happening.
- 25:06Crista Cowan: And then two or three generations later, second or third cousins might marry each other.
- 25:11Crista Cowan: It's very common because those little haulers were very isolated, even though they weren't really, in today's travel time, all that far away from some of the larger towns or cities.
- 25:26Crista Cowan: And so back up in this little hauler, I just have this image of Daniel Jones settling his wife and his children.
- 25:36Crista Cowan: As I looked up a couple of the other individuals who were settled in the neighborhood in the holler near him, they were men who had come from North Carolina with him, a couple of them who had served with him in the Revolutionary War.
- 25:51Crista Cowan: And they're starting over, they're starting a new life, they're in a new place, and he's apparently out catching wild boar to help get his family set up.
- 26:02Crista Cowan: So in 1789, he purchases or uh registers that stray boar.
- 26:07Crista Cowan: By 1790, so the next year, he purchases 144 acres in the holler that is called Beech Creek.
- 26:20Crista Cowan: Beech Creek was the creek that ran through the bottom of the holler.
- 26:23Crista Cowan: And it's so beautiful.
- 26:27Crista Cowan: Like I can't even explain how beautiful Beach Creek is, how beautiful this place is.
- 26:33Crista Cowan: Even though I was a little scared standing on that front porch, um, the peace still, because it is still really isolated, because there are still just a few farms, it's like you can almost step back in time.
- 26:50Crista Cowan: Or like if you look out across the field, you'll see somebody come walking across the field in Revolutionary War era clothing with a sickle on their shoulder and a, you know, dog running by their side.
- 27:03Crista Cowan: Like the imagery and the imagination just runs wild in this place.
- 27:09Crista Cowan: And so my imagination runs wild as I think about Daniel starting uh his life there with his family.
- 27:17Crista Cowan: 1790, he gets 144 acres.
- 27:20Crista Cowan: In 1796, he purchases another three acres in the next hauler over because he wants to build a mill.
- 27:30Crista Cowan: And that that hauler is one hauler closer to the town of Rogersville.
- 27:36Crista Cowan: And so there is opportunity there for trade.
- 27:39Crista Cowan: They're just south of the Holston River.
- 27:43Crista Cowan: And through that whole period of time, the 1780s, the 1790s, you've got major trade happening on the Holston River.
- 27:53Crista Cowan: As a matter of fact, I mentioned those um fuzzy borders, if you will.
- 27:58Crista Cowan: There was a couple of men who actually purchased from the Cherokee, it was something like 200 million acres, part of what is now Hawkins County.
- 28:08Crista Cowan: And they started selling off that land.
- 28:11Crista Cowan: So they had purchased it in an agreement from the Cherokee, and then they were selling it off to settlers who are coming down from Virginia.
- 28:18Crista Cowan: And when the North Carolina government um decided that Tennessee was going to be its own place, like it was originally called Franklin, and then the counties had two names at the same time because the government of North Carolina and this newly formed state of Tennessee were trying to figure out what their borders were and what the names were and all of that.
- 28:40Crista Cowan: Meanwhile, these two men from Virginia had been selling off all this land that they thought belonged to the state of Virginia, and ultimately the North Carolina government said, no, it doesn't.
- 28:53Crista Cowan: And they had to cede all that land to this newly formed state of Tennessee.
- 28:58Crista Cowan: So all of this is happening right there in this little community or this little enclave that is Hawkins County.
- 29:06Crista Cowan: And this is this is the world that Daniel is raising his family in.
- 29:12Crista Cowan: This is the world where he's trying to eke out a living, where he's deciding, you know, seven years in, let's go over a holler and build a mill so that he has some additional income for his family.
- 29:25Crista Cowan: And he does it, and he does it beautifully.
- 29:27Crista Cowan: He and his wife end up having eight children, born between 1783 and 1810, six girls and there are six boys and two girls.
- 29:35Crista Cowan: And all eight of those children lived to adulthood.
- 29:41Crista Cowan: And all but one of those children stayed in Hawkins County and raised their families there, some in that same little holler.
- 29:49Crista Cowan: And then in 1832, when he's living with his youngest son, his wife has passed away, he applies for that Revolutionary War pension and gives the account of the his time of service.
- 30:02Crista Cowan: And his pension is granted with an allotment of $30 a year.
- 30:08Crista Cowan: And he manages to collect three years of that pension.
- 30:13Crista Cowan: And we're not sure why he only collected three years because he lived for another nine years after his pension, but he dies in 1841 at the age of 84 in Hawkins County, Tennessee.
- 30:26Crista Cowan: And, you know, I don't know what you believe, but that as I stood on that porch and could almost see him walking over the hill through that field, I got so excited to possibly meet him one day, right?
- 30:41Crista Cowan: Like just love the idea of learning these stories about my ancestors and the things that they went through, even things that might just seem for the most part like a very simple life.
- 30:53Crista Cowan: Like I just want to hear his stories from him firsthand.
- 30:57Crista Cowan: And I hope I get to do that someday.
- 31:00Crista Cowan: I've always said that if I didn't live in Utah, I would live in Tennessee.
- 31:06Crista Cowan: And the place in Tennessee I would probably live would be right up there on that ridge, up into the Appalachians, going up from Knoxville up to Rogersville in those one of those little haulers.
- 31:22Crista Cowan: I'd have to be careful though, because Daniel now has over 4,000 descendants that we've identified.
- 31:28Crista Cowan: And I'm probably still related to half the town of Rogersville.
- 31:32Crista Cowan: As long as they invite me in for sweet tea and don't stick their dog on me.
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