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🎯 The Final Stretch: Wrapping Up the Altered Gamefound Campaign · Archons Corner

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Letting you know what is everybody's hard on.
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: We're all playing Ristbound now.
• 0:23
  Speaker 3: Has games put me in the roofbown demo team.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: On everybody, I'm the one, the only the w oh okay,
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: I e we're still here.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: Yay for some Keith Forging, but you know we're back now.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: There's still a game to play. Yes, me and Dexter went.
• 0:43
  Speaker 4: To it has double meaning this time.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to key Forge celebrations and now we're
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: back until next year.
• 0:55
  Speaker 5: We we as in Wookie and Dexter, Felix and I are, uh.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: They are didn't go anywhere.
• 1:06
  Speaker 5: I mean I went to Paris, so you know, I mean,
• 1:09
  Speaker 5: I guess all right.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: I went to Parish. What did you guys do?
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: What you we just went to Minneapolis, Minnesota, where there's
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: pretty much nothing to do.
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all of America.
• 1:23
  Speaker 5: How is the vibrant scene in the abandoned warehouse that
• 1:27
  Speaker 5: you guys played key Forging?
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: It's not an abandoned warehouse. It is the game center.
• 1:34
  Speaker 5: So I guess I can't say anything about game Center
• 1:37
  Speaker 5: because I believe a guy trying also enjoys that story.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. It was the game center. It
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: was a good time by all, But concerning news.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: People were just altered. Is still alive, We're still sticking around.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: Still alive for okay, so all right, let's talk.
• 2:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know why you're starting this episode with concerning news.
• 2:04
  Speaker 5: This episode is amazing news. Everybody, what okay?
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: So what's the amazing news? Your game company lied to you.
• 2:15
  Speaker 4: Weeks.
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: I was not happy about when I when I saw that,
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: I I.
• 2:22
  Speaker 5: Will say, I'll let you guys talk first and have
• 2:26
  Speaker 5: your breakdown and discuss whatever you want because I'm too positive,
• 2:31
  Speaker 5: so you're too. Let's just.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: Canocks balls. That's why he gets to go to Paris.
• 2:39
  Speaker 5: Everyone listen, I'm not Bill Clinton.
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: That's right. Little too soon, we don't know anything yet,
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: but too soon, A little too soon. We don't know
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: anything yet, so let's let's just wait. But anyways, go ahead,
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: you wake up. I don't remem was that was that
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: Thursday morning? Right away, Dexter, when we were reading this,
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: I want to say it was right.
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: I don't remember when it was. Exactually it was pretty
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: much right before we went to KFC though.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 3:13
  Speaker 5: It was what people are referring to as bloody Monday,
• 3:17
  Speaker 5: so it was on a Monday.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember reading it, so it was two
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: days before we left.
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: I don't remember reading it until Wednesday.
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: I did see it earlier. I think I saw it
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: on Monday or Tuesday.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: Or maybe it was Wednesday. Either way, I really knew it. Well,
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: we actually don't need fifty thousand. We actually need two
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: point five fucking million. Jiminy crickets. That's a far cry
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: from fifty thousand. Yeah, nobody else, nobody else is like.
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: Hey, they almost got two point five million.
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: They got two point five or so, like they had
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: to make a cry to the community, yes, to please
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: help support. They needed to make a cry out and
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: extend it for a week. Now, if you're not concerned,
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: you ought to be right, I'm concerned.
• 4:18
  Speaker 5: I'm past the point of concerns.
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: So I'll like it. But like, okay, so you keep
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: saying like they say, they're saying, like two concern is
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: not one of the stages of grief.
• 4:28
  Speaker 5: But do you want to but you say a thought exercise.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: Sure, let's do a thought exercise.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: I'm ready for a thought exercise.
• 4:35
  Speaker 5: Sure, it's actually it's not even a it's not even
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  Speaker 5: a thought exercise. Go to the latest Keyfords campaign and
• 4:41
  Speaker 5: tell me what their goal was it was and.
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: They raised three hundred thousand.
• 4:45
  Speaker 5: Yes, okay? And what was their goal on the campaign
• 4:49
  Speaker 5: before that? I wonder it was always fifty always fifty
• 4:52
  Speaker 5: all fifty thousand.
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: We all cool, we all get it, right, like this
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  Speaker 1: is nothing new, We no, But like if it's it's
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: a different thing to say, like our goals fifty thousand,
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: but like we're really looking for like two hundred thousand, right,
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: you you came out and set our goals fifty thousand,
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  Speaker 1: but we really need two point five million. These are
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: drastically different numbers because I thought for me, you look
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: at the campaign, you're like, shit, this campaign's doing fucking phenomenal, right,
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  Speaker 1: they are crushing it, And then all of a sudden
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: they're like, well not really, guys, please sir, may I
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: have some more?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: So if key Forge does all of their campaigns at
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  Speaker 5: fifty thousand and altered is also a TCG, and did
• 5:47
  Speaker 5: theirs at fifty thousand, Uh, guess who suggests the fifty
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  Speaker 5: thousand game found does.
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  Speaker 2: All of the game down? People? They just tell them
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  Speaker 2: to put fifty thousand means nothing. It's just the marketing play.
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: All the fucking marketing play right, we understand it's funded
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: in thirty seven seconds a right, like crazy, that's not
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: funded and they got funded that quick. I should go
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  Speaker 1: fund it right now?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, right, like that is like the standard, then what
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  Speaker 5: is the is?
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  Speaker 1: But we don't know if it's at We don't know
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: if it's the standard. Well, the issue basically I'm saying
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: the issue, well is it? I don't know. Let's go
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: a couple of other games. Yeah, I guess the other
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  Speaker 1: game founds up here.
• 6:38
  Speaker 5: That's what game found suggest specifically for that type of project,
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  Speaker 5: matter what.
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: Your goal is, this one's going well that's stupid. I
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: don't like that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so obviously you could you could say, well Equinox
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  Speaker 5: should have just not like since the game found and
• 7:01
  Speaker 5: done what they wanted.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: But that's a fair that's a huge number because like
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: if this funds, you got to come through, right, I mean.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta come through, right.
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  Speaker 1: So the whole thing where it was like, well, we
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: don't know if we're going to continue if we don't
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  Speaker 1: hit two point five million, like that's just that's that.
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  Speaker 2: Was kind of weird that they said they were funded
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  Speaker 2: and then they said they were going to send stuff
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  Speaker 2: back if it didn't hit the two five, which was weird.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: Right, that's well, no, that's not weird, that's fucking extortion, Dexter.
• 7:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was. I was hoping we could skip over
• 7:36
  Speaker 5: this era.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: But I know we forgot that.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: I oh, like I've forgotten.
• 7:45
  Speaker 5: I forgot that. You haven't already gone through it like
• 7:47
  Speaker 5: the rest of us.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: Gone through what Well, yeah, I haven't gone I haven't
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: like I haven't gone through the phases of morning, if
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: that's what you're saying.
• 7:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because we we we had a week off, so
• 7:57
  Speaker 5: you're like a week a week.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: Behind, a little behind, right, right, So I had to
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: focus because some of us actually played in key Forge Worlds, right.
• 8:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So okay, Wookie, this is an altered podcast.
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't make talk.
• 8:18
  Speaker 5: Are you doing over there?
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: Not in Worlds but at key Forge? Then zip it
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: the arkon open.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: We can we can talk about what happened last year,
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: or you could do Okay, thank you.
• 8:30
  Speaker 5: Go go listen to Arcons corner. Anyways, I was in
• 8:34
  Speaker 5: the middle of giving you credit, Wookie insane. Actually, you
• 8:38
  Speaker 5: know what, you're right. I did try to just skip
• 8:42
  Speaker 5: ahead for the episode because a lot of us are
• 8:46
  Speaker 5: already at the point for the episode that I have written.
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  Speaker 2: You.
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  Speaker 1: That was it. I was just I was I was
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  Speaker 1: extraordin listen we had looking on right, and I kind
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: of at least I thought I made it. I thought
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: I made it extremely extremely important that a big thing
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: with this is going to be transparency.
• 9:11
  Speaker 5: And then they went too transparent and it made people mad.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: But then they weren't. It was like, what the fuck? Yeah,
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: it was just so.
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 9:23
  Speaker 5: As part of me saying, okay, you know what, you're right, Wookie,
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  Speaker 5: I'll also give you the like I mean, I don't
• 9:32
  Speaker 5: want to say the insider play by play, but Wookie's
• 9:35
  Speaker 5: gonna be like, yeah, it fucking is so Monday Monday happened, right,
• 9:42
  Speaker 5: Everyone agrees the message put out on Monday was not good.
• 9:46
  Speaker 5: So it was kind of like, I honestly don't know
• 9:51
  Speaker 5: like who wrote it, who approved it, but I know
• 9:54
  Speaker 5: some people were out of office and it was just
• 9:59
  Speaker 5: kind of yet it out. Obviously it extremely backfired, so
• 10:06
  Speaker 5: they reworked, you know, their transparency or explanation of things,
• 10:14
  Speaker 5: and re released it after they had gotten some feedback,
• 10:19
  Speaker 5: and everyone who probably should have been involved initially was
• 10:25
  Speaker 5: involved in the like actual portrayal. Of course, the damage
• 10:31
  Speaker 5: was already done blah blah blah. And on one hand,
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: I can agree that the way they portrayed it on
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: Bloody Monday, if you want to call it, that was bad.
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  Speaker 5: I also understand why they had this number and why
• 10:52
  Speaker 5: they they didn't want to continue if it was too
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  Speaker 5: far off. I kind of see the boat they were
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: in where they were like, we don't want to deliver
• 11:02
  Speaker 5: you seeds and then immediately shut down and be like, Okay,
• 11:05
  Speaker 5: that's it, We're all done. Some people were totally fine
• 11:09
  Speaker 5: with that, to be honest. They're like, I would rather
• 11:10
  Speaker 5: just have the set and then if that's that, that's that.
• 11:15
  Speaker 5: But since you know, nothing's printed blah blah blah, they
• 11:20
  Speaker 5: thought it would be better to refund everyone and be
• 11:23
  Speaker 5: like we're not going to take your money and we're
• 11:25
  Speaker 5: not going to produce seeds. We're just gonna have to
• 11:27
  Speaker 5: shut down. So the second update, I think or trade
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  Speaker 5: that a little better.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, So question two, are they going to need
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  Speaker 1: two point five million every single game? Found?
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  Speaker 4: Ye?
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  Speaker 2: Right now, that's I know the plan. They did say
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: they're working on rearranging budgeting stuff since they didn't quite
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: get two point five, So maybe we're looking at like
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  Speaker 2: two million for the next camp, but they do say
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  Speaker 2: in a previous one that they would need two point
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  Speaker 2: five for each Game Found continuing now. Of course, if
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: they find ways to move around the budget and make
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  Speaker 2: it easier, it can very easily be less than that.
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  Speaker 2: But we don't know for sure yet.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know it's really I don't know if that's
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  Speaker 1: a reasonable number.
• 12:20
  Speaker 5: And I think it actually is.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, you want to hear why you're gonna tell me?
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: So the episode that I had originally written was about
• 12:30
  Speaker 5: the news as of today, and it includes the final
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: campaign results. Yes, looking at the final campaign results and
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: knowing how rocky this last month has been, with you know,
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: switching distribution, which some you know stories understood, some hated doing,
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: the first Game Found, which you know, had a lot
• 12:54
  Speaker 5: of confusion because people don't read, and maybe certain things
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: weren't as they could have be could have been. With
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: all of that, and with the you know, whole bloody
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: Monday and everything, they did one point four million from retailers,
• 13:13
  Speaker 5: from just retailers. Yeah, so the game Fountain ended quite
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: a good bit. Yeah, The Game Found ended at eight
• 13:22
  Speaker 5: hundred and ninety six, nine hundred and sixty seven. And
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: because of all of that, like instability and questioning and
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: blah blah blah, there were people who commented after and
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: they were like, wait, I didn't put in my order,
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: can I do it now? I changed my mind and
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: it's like that's not how it worked. So no, So
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: there's this really really weird like my brain honestly doesn't
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: understand it. But like the set doesn't get printed or
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  Speaker 5: funded if it doesn't hit a goal, so then people
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: don't back it because they don't want to back a
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: game that's not going to hit the goal. Then if
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: you don't back it, it's not going to hit the goal.
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: So then when it hits the goal, they actually still
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: want to play the game. But they didn't want to
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: back it because they were worried it didn't make it.
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: But if they would have backed it, then it would
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: have made it.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: I think a small number. I think that's a small.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: People.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, usually the lower louder people.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I'm just aggressive ones like me.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: If if you know, they continue strong, they learn from
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: this game found they get some of the LGS stuff
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: ironed out. I think it is highly possible to do this,
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: you know with the next one, will it for like
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: many years to come? Know, if key Fords just told
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: us anything, it'll kind of you know, start to slow
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: down down a little bit.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: But I think or there's a difference. There is a
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: difference between key Forge and.
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot of differences.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Difference beyond the card game. The two companies have two
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: extraordinarily different philosophies on how to do things right.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, one is very bare bones. One wants to do
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: all the things they can, so they're going to have
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: much higher operating costs. Wow, that is one of the
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: very big things.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: That is. Also one actually markets their game and tries
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: to get it out in front of people, yes, and
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: the other does not.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: We actually actually had this conversation a lot over the
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: last week because there are parallels between key Forge and
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: Altered and key Forge does this game found set up
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: for every new set as well. And you know, we
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: were discussing that and every person that I said this
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: to agreed. They were like, oh, shoot, that's right. He
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: Forged not only has like their own printing, they do
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: it in house. Yes, you're you're right. They don't do anything.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: They don't have OPI, they don't do consistent like tournaments, they.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Don't mark like max ten a year and half of those.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: They kind of just let people do their own things.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Ten large ones. There's no consistent op in stores right,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: which again we talked about this year again for the
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: empteenth time with Christian Peterson, and for the time with
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Christian Peterson, we talked about, hey, why don't you market?
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: You know, it's fifty marketing works and fifty percent doesn't.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: And I don't know what part works.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know any part I was and I was like,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, how much works? If we do zero,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: is it still zero?
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yes, Well, and they they don't do Creator Kids
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: as far as underware, nope.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: So yeah.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: There there is a lot of overhead in Altered, which
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: is honestly, it's it's very annoying sometimes to see the
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: kind of things people say, like, oh, why didn't Altered market,
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: Why didn't they blast this from the rooftops. I'm like, guys,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: just because they are compared to the well, just because
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: you didn't witness it with your own eyes.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was still happening exactly.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I received so many ads for the game found and
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: some people are like, I only have a WhatsApp account
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: and log into Discord once in a blue moon, I
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: didn't see anything.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: That's why you aren't getting any ads for it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, I don't want to.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: That doesn't work right.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: I can tell you that Altered has the Musubi, which
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: works on a lot of things behind the scenes, does
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: paid paid partnerships like with Moguai, does content creator partnerships,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: like some of the cause players at conventions, does conventions
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: for specifically Altered, uh, and like Instagram, Twitter, they're not
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: as good at Blue Sky anymore, but they've post here
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: and there. YouTube. Could do more on YouTube, but it
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: is there, Like it's all there, guys. You just don't
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: like interact with it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: See, But the people that aren't being interacted with are
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the people that need to be interacted with.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Well, they've got open their eyes.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Well, but the problem is it's not hitting it's not
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: opening their eyes, it's not hitting their feed right.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: That's that in my opinion, that's their fault.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: That's Altered's fault. Are the people following Altered's fault? The
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: people the people well, I would I would beg to
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: differ with you because unless you're looking.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: At guarantee that ads are getting to all of your audience, sure,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: how are you? How are you making sure it's getting everywhere?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: You can't? Right, Like, there's no.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: We're most of the ads going through though I know
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Facebook like had a bunch of it, But what other
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: places that they're really through the ads too?
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So here you go digital advertiser insight. If you
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: didn't know, I have experience. So Facebook and Instagram are
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: owned by the same company, which is meta blah blah blah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: If you do a campaign on one, you get ads
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: on both, and honestly, it is by far are the
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: best place to advertise for the lowest amount of money.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: I think I did see some banner ads here and
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: there on like YouTube and other sites. But if I
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: were consulting a company that didn't have millions in budget,
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: I would tell them just do meta campaigns because like
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Twitter is garbage. I don't know very much about Reddit
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: to be honest, and like everything else, is expensive for
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: low return unless you set up like a retargeting campaign
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: with you know, a very specific platform.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: That's funny guy trying.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I remember where I saw alter for the
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: first time.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So when I say that it's the people's fault,
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, like, you can't be surprised you didn't hear
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: about it if you're like the person who says, oh,
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I don't have any social media's and I want to
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: go to this one place, like.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll save you on that one. Yeah, I'll
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: save you on that one. That one I'll give to you.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: If you're if you're just completely not on the internet
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: most of the time, then okay, fine, yeah you're not
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: going to hear anything because that's the world now lives
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: on the internet. But if you are on the internet
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and you didn't see jack shit, well you know that's
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: now we've got.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: You also have people like Dexter who have uh you know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: is on a altered podcast and said, wait, LGS orders
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: were due on this day.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I thought it was okay, I just had the wrong day.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I just had the wrong day.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And Prince of the Bowl is still there.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: All right, I'm going to ask you a damning question
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Oh no, what are we doing?
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: You do you have to be a corner entire muted?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: No, I do not.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: You get alerts for at mentions? Yes, so if I
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: tag at digital you get an alert for it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do. Then how did you not know? I
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: did know? I just forgot Okay, I thought it was
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: a different day.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: So, I mean, you can only do so much. And
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: like people, how I try to answer that question is like, Okay,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: where do you spend the most time? And they'll be like, oh,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: I'm here, and I'm like, I hate to tell you,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: but it was all over there. Maybe you just need to,
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: you know, make sure you're all better the account or something.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I saw it on Facebook. I saw it
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: all over Facebook, all over Twitter or x whatever it
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: is now.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And to be honest, outside of all of that, like,
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: as a person who has had to use social media
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: for a long time for various reasons, I I fully
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: believe that like social media apps are just dead and
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: garbage and terrible for growth now, but they're also necessary.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: So it's really hard. In in my opinion, the best
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: social media like this day and age is YouTube. But
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: back in the day, it felt like you could get
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: attention on Twitter and Instagram, but they've just like murdered
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: it so much.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Gotta have gotta have big titties to get noticed.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Done there.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So there's.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Uh, there's uh, there's.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think so gus, I don't I don't think
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: they care about TikTok. Yeah, TikTok ads gonna see what
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: on TikTok, and that's probably gonna be expensive compared to
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: some other places.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I I do not know the like average CPMs and
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: stuff for.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: TikTok forever since I've used TikTok.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: So yeah, TikTok, though, I can tell you they do
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: post on TikTok. So yeah, I can go follow the account.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I watched TikTok every day, multiple times a day.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys, so, I'm not sure I read the sais.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I prefer YouTube or listening to podcasts or music.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: You listen to podcasts while you poop? Sure, that's odd.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever listened to a podcast while
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it's always TikTok.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not wrong.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I'm playing b G.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: That's dedication, right there, guy trying, that's dedication. I like it,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: all right, I mean, now.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Number don't go up themselves true? True? Oh yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Also I want to get altered in the top. Let's
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: let's shoot for top sixty of BGA this month.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Which is crazy to think how like how altered is so?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I mean you got to remember BG being in the
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: top one hundred of BGA. It's like it's kind of
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: a big deal, right yeah, And it's.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: A top one hundred dexter.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Nice and yet like I don't know, I just I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: still think two point five millions a lot, and that
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: is a little concerning for me. Again, I hope they're
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: more well, obviously I don't have a choice but to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: be more transparent next time around, you know, I don't know, Yeah,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe now that's less expensive artists, I don't know.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where to make the cuts, right,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Like that's not my because I got to the artism
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: is part of the big price to this game.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Like the that you like a lot the are.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: It's a good conversation to have, though I am curious
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: how much do they next to do artists charge for
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: the altered art?
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: A lot?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: It's a lot next sets nothing picture, nothing but pictures
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: of Wookie.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: So I don't think art will be a place that
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: there will be cuts, but there will be less alternate
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: arts because that's more expensive. But also there will be
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: more alternate arts because they have already commissioned. The art
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: for like seeds.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And well Seeds is done, but I'm saying going forward,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: obviously they're gonna if two point five million is their goal, right,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: And they had to extend it a week because at
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the at the week mark we were coming up, but
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they were like six hundred thousand, I think just just
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: a little over six hundred k.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: The extension a week is like kind of a it's
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: true but also a mischaracterization. At the same time, they.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Just included the pledge manager exactly. Yes, stuff.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, some people were saying they should do what key
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: Forge did with the the clock extender. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: that was honestly, for those people that missed out, it
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: probably would have been a good thing called maybe your
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: question mark.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, Wookie, you're on the key Forge podcast.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: They extended the time by like three hours. Oh yeah answers.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one time they didn't do that. They
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: don't do that normally.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was only for the last one.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just a feature where if like someone backs in,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: like the last ten minutes or a certain amount.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Or something extended.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it kicks it an hour or whatever.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: The first time they've ever done that they didn't do
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: that in the past.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it is a fair feature to can
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: consider for the next game found. Hopefully it's not like
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: when a really popular streamer does an uncapped subbathon and
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: it just extends to the campaign by forty six days.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: But you know, uh yeah, the you know where the
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: cut is going to be, uh, primarily the focus in
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: the United States.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: So that is one that is one figure.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: That was yeah, super.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: The problem is that's what they need to focus.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I understands.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Sit down, Dexter. It's a yes and no no, right.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I understand from a business standpoint saying, hey, we're not
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: going to focus as much on the US because, let's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: be honest, the US is not a place where it
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: has really flourished, right, I mean, Magic's King, right, I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Mean what's weird is last time, at this time, we
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: saw Altered being played at the Game Center while we
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: were while me and Dexter were there. This year, we
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: didn't see any It's all about the new hotness rift Bound.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Which I think the problem with the United States is
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: since they are a French company and just you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: the United States in general is I this is this
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: is just stipulation. I don't know this for sure, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: I would guess that it costs a lot more and
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: goes a lot less further in the United States, like
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: the amount of money they spent.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Do they need they need a United States production partner?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I might know a guy.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: No, they should already. They don't want to work with
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: old asthma day. I don't know.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe maybe, But like I know that they did
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: spend a lot of money trying to help the United
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: States and Canada market lat time. I don't know as
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: much as about because I'm not as close to it,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: and I don't think it paid off as much as
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: they spent. Just like, for example, anytime they want to
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: do a convention, if they have, if they send over
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Loki or someone like his trip alone you know is a.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Couple grand, it's just as good.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, yes, fair uh. And then that doesn't even
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: include like booth prices and YadA YadA.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Just send over call and a guy trying and blue
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: and we're all right, you put on some damn parents.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: I think the other thing is is I honestly think
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, and this could be a misconception. I think
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: the US stores burned Equinox a lot more than any
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: other stores.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: How would how how so like like said they were
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: going to order and then didn't just.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Like dropping it entirely, And I mean, how much of
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: that can you blame?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, the US stores are fickle bitches, right like,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: they just like.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: If they're not getting good profits, if they're not selling
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: stuff off the shell, they're going to drop it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Magic is king here, man, And if you're shit, ain't moving,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Magic's got another seventeen sets they need to sell you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: So yep, you know it's It's one of those things.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Magic right now is is white hot.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: One piece is kind of fallen off. I have seen
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true all over the place.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: This is just kind of near me. One Piece is
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: kind of fallen off. But Magic is still super hot,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Pokemon is still super hot, you get you know, the
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Big Three as I call them, are still you know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: they're doing their thing. And it's just with the amount
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: of product Magic produces, which is utterly ridiculous. If I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: if I were a Magic player, I'd be pissed.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: But yeah, and a lot of them are actually but yeah,
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: this is uh stuff to back up exactly what you're saying.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: So I think I've I've talked about it a couple
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: of times. I usually play in Dallas at common Ground Games.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: They decided after the message on Bloody Monday to revert
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: and not preorder the next set and just fund the
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: preorder they had, So we still have organized play as
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: I would assume the rest of this year, and then
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: they'll probably just cut it. But it's a store in Dallas.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: It's a very good store, and they are usually very
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: popular on you know, each night for events, and I
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: think tonight is Avatar for Magic maybe, and so it's
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: taking all of the space in the store. So since
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: Altered didn't fire last night, we were one person short.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna pivot and
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna do Riftbound on Friday. But it was sold
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: out and I found out it's because they had to
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: cut Riftbound down to sixteen players because Magic is taking
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: up the whole store, and they canceled like all other
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: like stuff entirely, like Star Wars Unlimited stuff like that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: So it's like, yeah, Magic is just eating everything.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Still you're not, Yes, Magic is just it's it's the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: fucking machine. That's just as much as magic players are
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: again such fickle bitches, right because magic's dying every seventeen
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: seconds in magic players world, right, every time they don't
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: do something that one magic player doesn't like, the game's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: dad and it's over. But it's just it's it's it's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: a juggernaut that I just it's it. You got to
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: imagine at some point there's going to be fatigue, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: it's not today. Yeah, when that is, I don't know.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, to be clear, when I'm saying that, I think
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: there will be less of a focus on like an
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: a it. I think it really is just those things,
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: like there won't be a as much of a presence
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: at conventions unless they find out another good partnership, and
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: they won't be like actively pumping extra money into the
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: United States to try to like grow it here, which
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: I think is.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: A good speaker and I'm I'm I'm a great hype man.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: If I definitely won't just be hitting on uh Lura.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Yep, I'm glad you butchered the name, so no one
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: knows what you're saying. But if you if this this
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: is my this is my honest suggestion, I I know
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: people really want to play in person. And if that
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: is the type of person, oh ship am I gun,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: no you're here. Okay, my computer blacked out for a second.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: If you are the type of person that really, first
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: and foremost only wants to play in person, I think
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: one thing that goes a long way is coordination, Like
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: just tell people like you want to.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Play too, because remember I had brought up like clubs
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and communities being able to get a hold of things, right, yeah,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: because it's because it's the further you get from magic, right,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: the further that the game store cares about you. It's
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: just the way, as much as it pisses everybody off,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: it's just the short and skinny right, there's no way
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: around it. I mean that might be a thing that
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: they have to go to to, you know, keep op
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: going in the States here.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh yeah, I think there's just a lot
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: of people that like are not vocal about wanting to play.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: Like they'll show up and if it's playing, they'll play.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: But sometimes it takes literally like just one or two
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: extra people to say like, hey, I want to play
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: this week or whatever at this store, were there to
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: be a playgroup.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know, there just needs to be at least four,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and I'll show up for locals. But recently we haven't
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: even been hitting those numbers, so I'm just like, Okay,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I won't show up.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: That you wanted, Dexter.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know, I should be more vocal and be like, hey,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I want to show up.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I'll be there, like who's showing up? Let's do this? Yes,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I mean ship we even for even for key Forge,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and we have a local well, we have a local
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: private chat right where we're like, hey, who's I mean,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if there's two or three of us, right,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: It's about consistency when it comes down to locals, right, Yeah,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: and what even if there's just two of you, fucking go,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: who cares if the ship fires? Play some jam some games.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: That's that's the biggest. That's the biggest thing I could
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: tell you is key Forge was legitimately me Jr. And
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Dan at one point in time, and through just going
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: every week we brought you know, all of a sudden
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: we had mister Perfect join in, and then we had
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: then we had uh Pete join in. You know, you
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: just you keep gaining people because you're continuously there, right,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: And it's you know, and hey, stores, I just want
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to finish this thought real quick. Hey, don't be a
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: space monster, right, buy a soda, buy a deck, buy
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: something from your local lgs. Don't just take up their
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: space and then be like, well we're here, Like, give
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: your lgs a reason to keep you around. Right. Legitimately,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: we play Sealed every single week, which means anywhere from
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: six to ten people are going to buy a deck
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: at fifteen dollars a plot. Plus we're going to probably
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: buy some sleeves, maybe we buy some soda, you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: we buy stuff right to make sure. And then at our.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Store, whenever we run little tournaments, we all put in
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: five dollars for store credit, and then whoever wins gets
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: the store credit in second place gets a refund of
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: their store credit or whatever. Just a way to get
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: the store a few more bucks.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: But just get get some a little bit, right, and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: and not only that, make sure that they aren't stuck
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: with product. Mm hmmm, right, that's that's the biggest killers.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Once that ship hits the bargain bend, your game's done. Yeah, yep,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: don't let it hit the bar.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Good uh good points. Indeed, uh. Some stores are very
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: strict about the you know, needing for people to fire.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: But if it's like not a far drive for you,
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: it is a very good point to just be like,
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: if there's two of us, let's just go play and
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: you know, buy a couple packs or whatever and express
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: our interest to the store.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Ye.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: And maybe that's the thay you play sealed and you
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: both buy six packs and you fucking just jam out
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: of your sealed games. Maybe have secondary account that's fake
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: that e losses.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Just play conquest at that point. There you go. I mean,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: you got a six man tournament at that point.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: That's funny. Jump just jump seats.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: So exactly.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: And one thing that I always suggest to people is
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: if you're not already in your regional discord, find it
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: and join it so that you can like coordinate and
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: be you.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Know, hey, here's a way to coordinate and be vocal.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Does Wisconsin have a original discord?
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: You find that out for me. I don't think I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: went and looked for Sconson facebook page and that don't exist. Neither.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: It doesn't exist SCons on Facebook. Oh you know, I
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: didn't search Reddit. I didn't do Reddit. I'm not a
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: big credit redditor.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: I do not see one at first glance of Wisconsin,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: but sometimes they are like combined. So like uh, I
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: think Utah, Idaho is all one server.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Could like Madison too, right, like Madison has their own
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: or it could be Milwaukee.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: There's there's the DMV server, which is you know DC Maryland, Virginia.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Send a guy trying a bunch of hateful messages if
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: you want to know more about that server. So yeah,
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: if there's not a regional server, it is a very
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: big undertaking to start one. But if you are someone
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: who likes running a discord, you could always look about
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: doing that. It's how we coordinate everything in Texas.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: What if you're somebody who doesn't like coordinating a discord
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: but your community needs.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: More, then you won't be vocal and you'll never get
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: to play locals.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Hire me and I will create one for you, but
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: you have to pay me.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I'll hire you the total.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: It's gonna have.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: I the second the second part of what I'm gonna say.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: The physical only players are not going to like, but
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: it is a reality play more online. If you get
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: used to it, it is amazing. And I used to
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: be a turn based game hater I was like, why
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: would I ever want to play a game over like
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: three days? But now I have like eight going all
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: the time, and it's great. There are even turn based tournaments.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: There's a there's a tournament every day.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I love. Yeah. I tried to get you to play
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the other like I'll do a turn base that. I'm like,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the while such a short game, why would we do
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: turn based?
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Like it's great, it's great telling you.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I guess I can't knock it because I already am
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: not an online player, Like, let's do online turn Base.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, maybe I should just slam my Dick
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: with a hammer, and then I like that neither.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this this episode is turning into like the real
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: the Real Ship episode or whatever, but so uh, we
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: will probably talk about it more in another episode. But
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: a wall is shutting down.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: So the.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Monday and Wednesday tournaments and like everyone's like, oh my god,
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: we should create, you know, a new tournament on Wednesday
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: and Monday, and we should create all these new tournaments
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: and make sure people support them and blah blah blah.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, we already have so many tournaments that
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: already exist. Let's let people play in the ones that
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: are already there instead of trying to spread things more thin.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: Yes, So I told them, I was like, I'm gonna
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: be honest, there is not the amount of players and
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: support to really justify replacing the Wednesday tournament, which is
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: the like North American time zone is what we call it,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: And I mean there's ACE every Tuesday and we get
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: like just barely over twenty players.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty people.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: Why would I want to go and like dive right
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: back into another tournament if there's not enough players. So
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: what I told everyone is I was like, how about
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: if you guys get ACE on Tuesdays to start filling up.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: I do think replacing the Monday tournament is good because
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: that usually always hits CAP and I think people want
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: a tournament at that time on Monday. Well, good, we'll
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: do that. Well, if you want more things and you
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: want you know, them to be around, you have to
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: support them. So people in the United States, if they
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: really want the game to continue and to grow, you
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: you just have to like support the online tournaments and
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: stuff that are already there because the people that are
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: making those for that time zone are doing it. Because
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: people keep saying that they need to happen.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: But then and then they are.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: People don't show up. Yeah, so more people play online,
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: coordinate online, you know, join the tournaments. I'm gonna get
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: better about making sure all of the online tournaments are
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: on Altered Corner dot com as well. And then if
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: the North American like time zone tournaments start filling up,
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: then maybe we'll do another Wednesday want Yah?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: All right, yep, sounds good. I agree with all the
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: things you just said.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: We did go into the ship show on this show,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: we were already.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Were we gonna get a little bit back on track
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: and talk a little bit of the things we originally
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: planned this. Let's let's go for the game timeline stuff.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Nope, not at all.
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean this is this is a whole episode
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: in itself. Do you want me to speed run it
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: for you?
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: No, I That's exactly what I was trying to say,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: And Dexter's just set it forth. So Dexter, maybe you
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: should run the show. Maybe that's no, I don't want that,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah, all right, cool, all right, yes, so
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: let's go through a little bit of the campaign timeline. Dexter,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: this should be old hat to you, my man. You've
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: done this before, right, a couple of times, you know
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: how to use your pledge manager.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's already over but yeah.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: If you if you click on the link for the
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: thank you message, it has the actual like pledge manager
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: and how it's going to work for this campaign. If
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: you want to go over that, or if you want
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: me to go over it for you real quick.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go over the timeline here what we got real quick?
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: So since they did, you know, keep the normal campaign longer,
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: ate up the pledge manager. So what the the pledge
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: manager in quotes will be now is for the next
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: two weeks they're going to review all the orders and
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: process back or payments. Some people took that as it
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: was going to take two weeks for them to be charged,
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: but they were charged today. That just means there will
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: be cases where people's cards are declined, some banks like
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: take longer. Some people might cancel blah blah blah.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: They used to mine is guilty of that, or they're like,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: what's this extraordinarily large charge and they just like kind
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: of they'll be in touch with you, let's put it
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: So it just gives enough of a window to allow
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: all that to happen. But your card was probably charged
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: today for either your first stretch pay installment or the
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: full amount, depending on what you did.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: So after that saw anything, Yeah.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: They will open the Pledge Manager, which is just going
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: to be you're able to provide your address and pay
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: details for shipping fees, YadA YadA, and that will open
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: December first and close December eighth. And once the Pledge
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: Manager details are secured, they will lock down the final
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: print run numbers and move fully into the logistics phase
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: of printing, shipping to regionable regional hubs, and then final
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: delivery for the set will be in February m.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: So then the big question is when does the next
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: game found start?
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that is an interesting question.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: A few months away.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you could do like some kind of
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: manuary with surgery to find out, but I did not
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: care enough to do it. What is really interesting though,
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: is everyone is all like, oh, you know, altered is
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: only fine for this next set or whatever, but now
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: we have to worry about the next This next.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Set still quite a few months away.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that takes us seven months out, so still a
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: good amount of time with just.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: This, but not the game.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: Right confused, But yeah, I'm just saying, like we're in
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: November now, we have Skybound Odyssey, which we're still in
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: that season. Sky Bound Odyssey season will end in February,
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: where we will get Seeds, and then we'll have seeds
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: for four months. So even if hypothetically there's no set
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: after seeds, we still have like seven day seven more
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: Altered no matter what, at.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Least because then there's the whole season with seeds too.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Altered will be around for a while. We're good. We
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: don't need to worry right now.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: We can.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: We can start worrying again once the next game found starts.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I'm worried right now. But that's me.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, uh do we I mean, I guess we talked
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: a lot about like supporting and what uh you can do.
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: And it's not just me like coming and being like
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: you need to support the things we do. It's like
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: people were legitimately, you know, trying to find things and
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: asking like how they could help and blah blah blah.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: It's it's been really nice to see like the initiative
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: of people wanting to support Altered content and wanting more
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: and seeking it out, like I saw a lot of
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: people joining Discord to find it, asking about it in Discord.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: So if that, if that keeps up, just in general,
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: it'll go a long way for the game. So if
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: you like a video, or you like this podcast or something,
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: leave a comment, you know, ask a question. All of
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: that kind of stuff helps.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Nobody likes.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: Nobody, they like, they like what I have to say.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: So they told me, yeah, you.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Have the best information. We're all just kind of here.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just super invested.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just here. I'm here, man, I'm just I'm.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I'm you're leading the show.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: But you know, I finally had something to bitch about,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: like it was a good week. Like here you go.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: You you have a comment for you guys. I like
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: Rookie Dexter and Felix. I wish those three had a
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: podcast together. Maybe you guys should think about making one.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: I think, Felix, I think you should do a podcast
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: where you teach these two capra.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: I didn't do that at school. Every once in a while.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Teach me like the little yep, the little teacher. Yeah
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that little little squirrel sounds like rodents. I don't know
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: what they are.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Coffee brows.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So The only other thing that I think
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: we didn't really touch on that I had in the
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: original notes was the the new like push on Board
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: Game Geek. You can I think it's been out there
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: a while, but it hasn't really been like used, and
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: a lot of people started using it. So if you
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: like the website Board Game Geek, you can go ahead
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: and do whatever you do on the website with altered
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: There's been like new forums created, images, added videos, people
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: are leaving reviews of each set, things like that, and
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: it had a lot of really good success this last week, honestly, so.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not Hotelly.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: Been waiting for the Lawyer for like three episodes.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I can read it for you, Wookie.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, that's fucking more, all right, fine, read.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: It, yay, Okay, let's do this. Because of her artificial nature,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: she served as a model for the faction's first autumn
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Automata prototypes. Frankenstein leads me back to the furthest Reacher's
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: reaches of the Athenore, the research and development area of
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: the foundry. He opens a door and turns on the
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: workshop lights, revealing a slender shape with an ivory sheen.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: She looks like a porcelain doll with skin riveted with
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: gold and blue interlacing. I approach the two idoloons. Frankenstein
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: was created with my construct, but the same can't be
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: said for the one he had. He has called Copelia.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: She looks at me with her enamel eyes while I
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: walk around her, my can, my cane clacking on the
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: dusty floor. How does she manage to stay alive? As
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: if she had anticipated my question? She opens a compartment
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: on her chest. Inside beats an expertly crafted mechanical heart
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: that gives off a smell of mana. Her heart contains keylon.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: That is how she can stay anchored in reality. I
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: turned to Frankenstein and away from the pulsing device. By
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: using this technie, we could stabilize idolons in the world
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: for longer, like the Muna managed to do. I shake
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: my head, speechless at all the possibilities this seems to
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: open up. But this only works because Coppelia is a
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: mechanized creature. Other idolons couldn't accommodate this technology. Naturally, I
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: size rationality abruptly intrudes on my fascination. Coppelia closes her
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: compartment and smiles at me. The workshops, lights glinting on
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: her ceramic skin. Though she moves jerkily and clicks like
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: a puppet, she has a certain grace, almost like a ballerina.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: In different circumstances. I might even have allowed myself a
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: little danced with her, but my legs prevent that kind
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: of thing. And then we have the inspiration is Coppelli
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: is a ballet dancer from a three act ballet of
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: the same name by Arthur Saint Leone based on E. T. A.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Hoffman's short story called The Sandman. Never heard of that play,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: but looks like there's lots of lore stuff going together here.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Coppelli is a mechanical doll that Frans, the main protagonist,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: falls in love with to win him back his fiance
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Swanhilda dresses up as Coppelia and makes it appear as
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: if the doll has come to life. In the original story,
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: she is called Olympia and she has brought to life
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: through alchemy, and the narrator is traced from three hundred
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: and ninety one after the cataclysm A.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: So you want to know something really interesting about this? Yeah,
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: I was having a debate in the main server with Shoot,
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: what's their name wild Card or whatever. They're super active
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: super Axiom fanboy, and I don't think they had actually
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: like read the lore because I was having a debate
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: about how Frankenstein's monster is in the game already and
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: it's Capellia.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Coppellia is Frankenstein's monster exactly.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: I'm glad that you've picked up on that because the
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: people were like not really getting what I was putting down.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: Because if you listen to the first part of what
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: you just read, it says that the other construct is
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: not like really the same as Capellia. So if you
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: look at doctor Frankenstein's card, there is you know, like
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: another Automatron constructor or a construct of some sorts, but
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: it sounds like it's not really like living.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: And Copelia is is living because she is an idol
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: on too maybe.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and was created by Frankenstein. Now, further interesting thing
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: is there might be more than one Frankenstein's Monster in
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: the game. Yes, maybe we'll read it in the future.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: I don't want to give you too many spoilers.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: But.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: If you go read the Lawyer for Doctor Frankenstein and
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: then read the Lawyer for Podu, that's what I'll.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe even the monster in the card hooked
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: that little automaton there could be made by Frankenstein. Yeah,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: the axiom guy's got lots of little robots.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah yep, but yeah, read the Lawyer for Doctor Frankenstein
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: after this, and then read it for Podu, and then
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: you'll see and hear some very weird and interesting things.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: And if you missed us reading the story of Little
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: match Girl, I read it and talked about it on
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: stream today and then one of my viewers sent an
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: animation for Little match Girl. If you want to have
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: your heart broken, do that. And for the people in
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: the live chat right now, I will link you the
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: animation and you can watch it.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, now we all get to be sad together.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just wanted to show recently that they also made
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: reference in the Little match Girl.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: I forgot what show that was.
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't know it is. It's a very
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: sad story.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: I've been Dragon Rajah.
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: I could tell you what episode Little match Girl was
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: on if you really wanted, but it would take me
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: a second.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I'm thinking I was watched the show
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: on TV just recently and Little match Girl came up
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: as well. I think it was Dragon Roger love to remember.
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well no, no Patreon questions. So if you guys
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: have Patreon.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Some questions, give us some new topic ideas stuff to
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: talk about.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Rookie, who still there?
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: May?
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: I think my the gig starter for Imagination is shipping out.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: I should be receiving mine pretty soon.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, nice Magi Nation. You have no idea, man, mamagin
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Nation was the ship back of the day. Yeah, I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: like imaginations.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of it.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Never heard of Imagination.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I've heard of it, but I don't know
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: anything about it. I've never heard of those.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: One of those podcasts have to make.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody somebody did ask us to like go in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: depth about like some of the old card games that
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: we used to play. I don't remember what that was,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: but it was a while ago. Somebody said we should
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: do it. Maybe we'll do like a Patreon episode on
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: it because it was funny.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've always thought it would be funny to do
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: a like April Fool's episode where we just do an
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: episode like it was, you know what we've been doing
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: the whole time. But it's something entirely different than Altered.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: So if you're listening to this episode, maybe you'll get
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: the inside like uh actually happens? Yeah, exactly Before we
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: end here, we do have a live question from astro
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: Nebula too. I'm pretty sure we've talked about this a bunch. So, yes,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: these podcasts get posted everywhere.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Just stroll off.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: YouTube and everywhere you can listen to podcasts. So if
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: you want to go back pretty much every week, you can.
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  Speaker 5: But what is your favorite card each of us? If
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  Speaker 5: you can answer quickly?
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  Speaker 1: Is this your first time it.
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  Speaker 4: Is?
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  Speaker 5: Well, your your answer is easy, but I don't think
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  Speaker 5: I'm as easy to pin down.
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  Speaker 2: Uh you still like right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, But people that don't listen to every episode don't
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  Speaker 5: know that.
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  Speaker 1: He's like ship. Remember you know that that's what's just
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: happened here, right, He's like ship.
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  Speaker 4: They know?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, this magpeng Hoarder his very obvious.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Felix, Felix, are you still sticking with Gerrick?
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  Speaker 4: I hold like fourteen right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no card that I'm super attached to. I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: would say WAU back in the old days. But you
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  Speaker 2: know he's done for every time hold the place nice
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  Speaker 2: in my heart, every time.
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  Speaker 1: That drink that he's not supposed to because he's underage.
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  Speaker 1: She pours a little, you know, a little bit on
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  Speaker 1: the ground for his homie. Yep, kisses his fingers, points
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  Speaker 1: to the sky.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah you eat guards too.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah the live live audience is yelling at us
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  Speaker 5: now because they work their question wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care still magpuh.
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  Speaker 5: I think mine is honestly maybe still tiny gin because
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  Speaker 5: it shows how much of an assholes Maris and I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: hate that bastard. So yeah, that one's good. Lower Wise,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: I think, I don't know. The Lawyer is just so great.
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  Speaker 2: They really good card based on lore.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I honestly, I think one of the best laws
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: is for paper Herald, just because the concept I love.
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  Speaker 2: That was so cool. Yeah we did that. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I have a question.
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  Speaker 5: How are you guys us? Good night?
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  Speaker 4: We're ready for it. This week PAX is coming.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, PAX is coming up next week. Me, Coole and
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  Speaker 2: Felix will all be there doing some gaming stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: You can ask those questions next thing, we can answer them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I can help. It's been it's
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: been a few years now, about.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: Years for me and I can't remember.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: But you actually teach me felix.
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  Speaker 4: Engineering for a while. So yeah, I guess, so yeah.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I guess I can help you, all right.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: Guys, I kind of mentioned it, but I will. And
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  Speaker 5: if you guys help me, remember start putting the online
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  Speaker 5: tournaments that are consistent, because it's a lot easier when
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: it's consistent. On altered corner dot com, if you are
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: a tournament organizer and want to be on there, it
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: actually helps me if you coordinate with me, because then
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: I can get the information correctly. I can get images
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  Speaker 5: from you.
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  Speaker 4: YadA YadA.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: Ace is back and it will be Tuesday night at
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: six thirty pm.
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  Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to it doesn't have to compete
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  Speaker 1: with a wall anymore.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: Yes, and I will be able to put more time
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: and energy and and you know, take feedback and suggestions.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: But I can't do things or change things if nobody
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: is vocal. So just remember, go tell your go, leave
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: a comment.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: On your stuff to happen.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: Exactly, Leave a comment on your favorite altered video or whatever.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: Leave some feedback. Tell me you hate my guts at
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: least it's something.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I hate your guts only sometimes and Blue would say
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: stop question, damn positive please.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I can. My brain just is
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: not worry.
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  Speaker 1: You're not wired to be angry about why.
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  Speaker 5: Why be sad about a card game? When uh my
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: childhood was sad?
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  Speaker 1: So you know, it's not about being sad. It's about
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: getting the most for the consumer. Fuck the company call?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Have we stopped the recording?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Lookie, no, we're still on. I can always edit out
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: what I want and Blue put on some fucking pants,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: would you. It's time to grow up with adults.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: All right, good night, guys, good.
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  Speaker 1: Night, good night everybody. And with that, we'll see you
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  Speaker 1: all next week.
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  Speaker 5: Not not next week because we'll be at packs ship, we'll.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: See are you all going to packs? Was guying to
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: ask Garth the guys again? Oh to do it?
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: They're they're chomping at the bit to talk to you again.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Oh are there? Is that? Like for real?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: Or I mean Chili will talk to anyone that will make.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: It that I understand, But I'm like, are you being
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: for real? And you're bullshitting me?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: An episode the day after Thanksgiving? Hell yeah, I don't
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: give a ship about.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: If I'm still alive. Probably all right, Well, great with that,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: We'll see you all maybe next week.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: That is all.
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  Speaker 1: And if you love me, love me, but you never any.
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  Speaker 4: All.
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  Speaker 5: I never know.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Say sorry, but you never really show.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Not only that of a letting you know, they have
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: a letting you know