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Shedeur Sanders' debut reaction, Ranking LeBron James & Tom Brady | 08.11 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: 25 athletes of the last 25 years. We're counting down
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  Speaker 1: from five to one. Also, something from the weekend that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't really funny, but Anyway, first up, guys, something happened
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  Speaker 1: this weekend that it's going to be good for business.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be bad for my health. I have
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  Speaker 1: been doing a stay off of Twitter situation, quite honestly,
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  Speaker 1: because like what folk number one, number two. I'm already
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  Speaker 1: pretty aware of how stupid I am. I don't need
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  Speaker 1: as many reminders as I now receive without being balanced
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  Speaker 1: out by the occasional attaboy.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: It just, I don't feel like this is good for
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  Speaker 1: me at this point in time. So I stay away
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  Speaker 1: and people keep me hip to what's going on. Ryan
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  Speaker 1: keeps me hip to what's going on. My friends, A,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes keep me hip to what's going on, right? But
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  Speaker 1: then also I pop in every now and then, right?
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  Speaker 1: Just kind of jump in. see a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, get a taste of the action. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I need to be aware of what the discussion is. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, much of that discussion is the discussion of
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  Speaker 1: the bots, but y'all stupid asses be over.
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  Speaker 2: There talking to them. So, you know, I can find
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  Speaker 2: out what some of y'all be thinking too.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, Friday night, Cleveland Browns played a preseason game and
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  Speaker 1: Shador Sanders threw, Ryan, correct me if I'm wrong, two
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  Speaker 1: touchdown passes in that game.
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  Speaker 3: That's correct. Two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: Two touchdowns. I saw some clips of it. I did
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  Speaker 2: not see the full game because preseason. Two touchdowns. I
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  Speaker 2: did see the numbers.
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  Speaker 1: It was six yards per attempt, which is utterly unnoteworthy.
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  Speaker 2: But preseason games are weird, right?
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  Speaker 1: To say that you only had six yards in an
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  Speaker 1: attempt in a preseason game doesn't necessarily mean that you
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  Speaker 1: played poorly or But the other part of it is
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  Speaker 1: throwing two touchdowns in a preseason game doesn't necessarily mean
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  Speaker 1: that you played well. There is very little that regular
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  Speaker 1: people can take from watching a preseason game. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: you are a film eater, you'll be able to do that.
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  Speaker 1: If you're somebody in the league or whatever, you'll probably
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  Speaker 1: be able to make something out of it. Otherwise, preseason
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  Speaker 1: games are for everybody's favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Confirmation bites. I think we can all safely agree upon that, right?
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  Speaker 1: If you think somebody is good and they play well
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  Speaker 1: in a preseason game, boom, you have a measure of verification.
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  Speaker 1: If you think somebody is going to be bad and
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  Speaker 1: they played well in a preseason game, it's only a
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  Speaker 1: preseason game. And the converse also holds up. Shador Sanders
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  Speaker 1: got the start. Ryan, I did not realize that there
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  Speaker 1: was a discussion around him prior to the start from
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  Speaker 1: people who are Shador Sanders supporters who felt as though
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  Speaker 1: he was being set up to fail by being asked
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  Speaker 1: to start this preseason game. I did not know that
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  Speaker 1: this was a thing. I see that people, I know
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  Speaker 1: Robert Griffin was one person who said, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to extrapolate that he's everybody, but I did not
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  Speaker 1: get the feeling that he was alone in the expression
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  Speaker 1: of this sentiment.
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  Speaker 3: No, there is definitely a corner of the internet, again,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's bots or real people, that were saying that
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  Speaker 3: Shador was being set up to fail because he had
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  Speaker 3: never gotten any reps in the first-team offense, going out
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  Speaker 3: there with a lot of second-team receivers, and then, again, start, yes,
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  Speaker 3: playing in this preseason.
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  Speaker 1: So he would have been better suited for success playing
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  Speaker 1: with third- and fourth-teamers?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't say the argument was wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, no, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what would have worked for
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  Speaker 1: you under those circumstances if that's the way you see it.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's not like I don't understand. I see there's
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  Speaker 1: a kernel of logic in that. But what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: there is you would probably go find a way to
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  Speaker 1: be mad regardless of how it goes.
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  Speaker 2: Man, he could be out here throwing with those guys.
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  Speaker 2: They too good. Oh, well, he didn't actually get to
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  Speaker 2: work with them. Oh, okay. I mean, I think it
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  Speaker 2: would be relieving. Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if football is anything like my business,
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  Speaker 1: but man, when you work with bums and then you'll
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  Speaker 1: be out there working with people that's good. When you
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: get out there working with people that's good, man, that
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  Speaker 1: shit like you put on a new pair of socks. Like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: you don't say to yourself, I can't walk in these.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what this good feeling is like. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's not how that works.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But anyway, sure. I got out there. He did
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  Speaker 2: what he did again.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel qualified to give an evaluation on it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not inclined to do it. I also am pretty
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  Speaker 1: straightforward about this. I come into this believing that, or
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  Speaker 1: believing is not the right word. I am skeptical of
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  Speaker 1: how good he can be in the NFL. I think
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  Speaker 1: there is data that indicates that he is not an
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  Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. I also think that we've seen enough to
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  Speaker 1: indicate that he, vis-a-vis some of his now peers, he
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  Speaker 1: may not be good enough to play in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: but being good enough to play in the NFL and
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  Speaker 1: being good enough to be on an NFL team, those
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  Speaker 1: are two different things when we talk about quarterback. I
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  Speaker 1: think we all agree. There are 96 quarterbacks in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: There are not 96 quarterbacks in the world who are
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  Speaker 1: good enough to play NFL football, right? The Browns got
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  Speaker 1: five quarterbacks that ain't good enough to play NFL football.
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  Speaker 1: One of them, Deshaun Watson, his old nasty ass ain't
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  Speaker 1: gonna play this year.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Flacco.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Joe Flacco went to high
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  Speaker 1: school with me, but he could have, right?
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  Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel.
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  Speaker 1: Who nobody thought was going to go in the third round.
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, who is already a journeyman. And let me
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  Speaker 1: just make sure I get this part right about Kenny Pickett.
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is a journeyman. My computer went slow trying
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  Speaker 1: to look it up.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even want to know.
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  Speaker 1: How my man a journeyman already, and he got drafted
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  Speaker 1: in 2022. He is a journeyman in year four.
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  Speaker 2: Just throwing it out there. So that's who we got. Watson, Sanders, Pickett, Flacco,
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  Speaker 2: and Dylan Gabriel.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody is going to get a chance to start this
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  Speaker 1: year because I don't think any of them are good
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  Speaker 1: enough to play.
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  Speaker 2: That's my read on this situation, right?
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  Speaker 1: All of them are probably going to get a chance
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  Speaker 1: to play, though I guess one of them will probably
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  Speaker 1: get cut going into the season. But they'll probably just
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  Speaker 1: put one of them boys on the practice squad and
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  Speaker 1: enroll all of them. Anyway, I've been rambling a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: talking in circles. I just want to get to the
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  Speaker 1: point that for me personally is important, which is, could.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all please not lose y'all's minds about this? Can you?
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  Speaker 2: Can you?
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  Speaker 1: And what made me realize I needed to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you and ask very kindly that y'all not lose y'all's
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  Speaker 1: minds is that Shador Sanders threw two touchdown passes in
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  Speaker 1: an NFL preseason game. Not even, it ain't even the
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  Speaker 1: last preseason game. You know, the one where they halfway
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  Speaker 1: pretend like it's football. I don't even think it was
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  Speaker 1: that game, baby. Nike put out an ad, an ad
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  Speaker 1: behind Shador Sanders. And the ad said, let me make
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  Speaker 1: sure I want to make sure I get the words
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  Speaker 1: exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: OK, the ad said only a matter of time.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a picture of his fifth round pick
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  Speaker 1: doing the thing with his watch. I hate to be
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  Speaker 1: this guy, Ryan, but he doing it with the wrong arm.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like he wear his watch on the wrong arm.
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  Speaker 3: That's always something you could have pointed out.
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  Speaker 2: It's on his right. I'm just saying. It's on his
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  Speaker 2: right arm. That ain't the arm you put a watch on.
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  Speaker 2: Where your daddy at?
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  Speaker 1: You're spending all this goddamn money on these watches and
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  Speaker 1: you ain't even wearing it right. He be having the
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  Speaker 1: hardest time trying to wind that bitch because the thing
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  Speaker 1: go in the wrong way.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, when I was a.
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  Speaker 1: Kid, You could be all kinds of criminals and anything
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  Speaker 1: else and Nike would ride with you just as long
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  Speaker 1: as you were still actually good at what you did.
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  Speaker 1: Now Nike don't even really care about what you did.
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  Speaker 1: Like Nike is not just do it or look at
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  Speaker 1: what you just did. Nike doing ads for, hold up,
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  Speaker 1: we gonna get there in a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Just you wait, just you wait. That's what I just realized.
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  Speaker 1: Has the plot been lost this badly on everything? where
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  Speaker 1: a dude throwing a couple touchdown passes in a preseason game,
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  Speaker 1: a dude that's not even a starter. How you getting
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  Speaker 1: Nike ads and you're not even a starter?
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  Speaker 2: And it's not his fault. I want to be very
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  Speaker 2: clear about this. It's not his fault.
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  Speaker 1: I get the feeling that Shador Sanders is trying to
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  Speaker 1: do everything he possibly can correctly at this point. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if he realizes that they handled the draft
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  Speaker 1: process badly, but I do believe that the way he's
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  Speaker 1: handled things since has been different. I thought the clip
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  Speaker 1: of him running into Tony Grossi, who's a media guy
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  Speaker 1: up there in Cleveland, talking about how Tony never has
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  Speaker 1: anything positive to say about him. I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: a great look for Shador because he handled it in
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  Speaker 1: good spirit.
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  Speaker 2: Right like he wasn't angry about it or whatever he
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  Speaker 2: was just like come on Tony come on man what
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  Speaker 2: I got to do I.
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  Speaker 1: Thought he handled all of those things really really well
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  Speaker 1: right but nothing was proven from that game I was
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  Speaker 1: talking to one friend of the show who I know
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  Speaker 1: is listening And I'm not going to name them just
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  Speaker 1: because he and I talked about it. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to relitigate our conversation on here. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's fair. I don't think it's appropriate. But the point
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  Speaker 1: that he made was those two touchdown passes proved that
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  Speaker 1: Shadoy could play in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, see, there we go. There goes the
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  Speaker 2: confirmation bias. That's it right there.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Like, no. No.
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  Speaker 1: Throwing two touchdown passes in a preseason game has never
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  Speaker 1: proved that. A whole lot of guys have thrown two
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  Speaker 1: touchdown passes in a preseason game and then wound up
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  Speaker 1: going to be the Orchid Man. Like, that's not an
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  Speaker 1: uncommon thing to go down.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. We're not proving anything.
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  Speaker 1: But what he did was entrench the people who still
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  Speaker 1: believe that Shador Sanders has been a victim of collusion
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  Speaker 1: by the man. Still believe this, right? I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what'll disprove it. I also know this. I have seen
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  Speaker 1: a comparison. I talked to one of my guys that works.
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  Speaker 2: In Cleveland doing media there.
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  Speaker 1: And the comparison that they're making up there to the
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  Speaker 1: surrounding cult of Shador is to Tim Tebow.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to be clear about something.
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  Speaker 1: If Shador Sanders were to play in the NFL this season,
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  Speaker 1: I do not think that he would be the worst
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  Speaker 1: quarterback that I have ever seen. And that's why you
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  Speaker 1: can't compare him to Tim Tebow, because that is the
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  Speaker 1: worst quarterback that I have ever seen play NFL football.
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  Speaker 2: You see my face? Well, I mean, some of y'all
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  Speaker 2: are listening. You hear my face?
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  Speaker 1: Do I sound like I'm joking? Does this sound like hyperbole?
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  Speaker 1: It's the worst quarterback I've ever seen in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Don't do that to Shador. That's not, he didn't earn that.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
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  Speaker 1: It ain't going to be that. And look, I understand
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  Speaker 1: that Shador prays a lot. At least I believe he
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  Speaker 1: prays a lot. His daddy talk about praying all the time, right?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody has ever been as prayed
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  Speaker 1: up as Tim Tebow was for that run ever.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't. That was wild.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't never seen somebody stink for as long as
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  Speaker 1: he was stink. And then just need to be good
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  Speaker 1: for two minutes and then he make it work.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And then they had that game against Pittsburgh. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I'm bringing that up because that was a really, really
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  Speaker 1: miserable couple of months to go to work.
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  Speaker 2: It really was. It stunk.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now, I ain't never heard
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  Speaker 1: people say more illogical shit in my life as I
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: did during that run of T-Bone Mania. And a big
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  Speaker 1: part of it was people really thought that this was
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  Speaker 1: entirely powered by Jesus. Now, I don't know why it
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  Speaker 1: was that Jesus was always running late. Jesus always struck
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  Speaker 1: me as being punctual, right? I don't go to church
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  Speaker 1: like that. So, I mean, I don't want to pretend
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  Speaker 1: like I know everything about Jesus, right? Maybe people say
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  Speaker 1: it all the time, you know, Jesus, you know, Culturally speaking,
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  Speaker 1: we believe that some people run late and many people
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  Speaker 1: who believe in facts believe that Jesus belongs.
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  Speaker 2: To some culture. Therefore, maybe that was your extension. I
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  Speaker 2: have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: I just always figured Jesus would be on time. So
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  Speaker 1: Jesus was always running late, always in a hurry.
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  Speaker 2: Damn, get to the end.
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  Speaker 3: Like, damn.
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  Speaker 2: I said, damn, my bad. Damn. Made it just in time.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Shador Sanders can possibly pray.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you have to be a preacher's kid
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  Speaker 1: to pray enough to be able to have the sort
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  Speaker 1: of not luck, good fortune.
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  Speaker 2: He was blessed and favored.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what they'd be saying that Tim Tebow
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  Speaker 1: had at the end. Don't insult Shadur Sanders like that
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  Speaker 1: and don't assume that his life is quite as charmed.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot going on that can never happen again.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. There's a lot that can never
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  Speaker 2: happen again. I'm going to just tell you this.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't really trying to argue with y'all about him
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  Speaker 1: until this actually turns real. When it actually turns real
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  Speaker 1: and he gets to play, we'll see. And if he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't get to start to begin the year, which I
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  Speaker 1: still think is in the cards, but if he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: start to begin the year and you're a Shadur person,
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  Speaker 1: Don't sweat it. He's going to get his chance to play.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's going to have their chance to be right with
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  Speaker 1: this collection of quarterbacks. You're going to see it. Save
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  Speaker 1: your energy. You can't already be fighting like this in August.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to be out of breath by week two
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  Speaker 1: if this is what you're doing. Pace yourself. Wait till
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  Speaker 1: he gets there. My guess is if they have their druthers,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to go, uh, Kenny Pickett, To Joe Flacco,
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  Speaker 1: to Shador Sanders, to Dylan Gabriel. That's going to be
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  Speaker 1: my guess on what the order is and how they go.
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  Speaker 1: And I have my logic for it. Kenny Pickett, because
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  Speaker 1: if it doesn't work for him now, you need to
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and cut him. You're not really betting on
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  Speaker 1: the future there. Joe Flacco there because, I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 1: now we know this is preposterous. But he's the one
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  Speaker 1: that the people will be calling for because Browns fans
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  Speaker 1: feel like they've seen success with him.
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  Speaker 2: So then you put him in next.
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  Speaker 1: Um the the the highest levels of management clearly feel
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  Speaker 1: good about Dylan Gabriel because they took him third that's
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  Speaker 1: why you save him to the end because you give
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  Speaker 1: him more time to get ready and then they throw
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  Speaker 1: Shador out there because if nothing else the owner would
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  Speaker 1: like to be rid of that hassle because at every
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  Speaker 1: turn Jimmy Haslam be telling people Shador wasn't his pick
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: to be fair to Jimmy Haslam I think the reason
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  Speaker 1: why he does that is because as far as we know,
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  Speaker 1: he himself has made two selections of quarterbacks as the owner.
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  Speaker 1: And one of them was Johnny Manziel. And the other
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  Speaker 1: one was Deshaun Watson's old nasty ass. And I just
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  Speaker 1: think it's better for everybody involved that.
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  Speaker 2: You not be Jimmy Haslam's pick, including Shador Savage.
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  Speaker 1: All the people who are offended by the way that
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  Speaker 1: Haslam's like, hey, that wasn't my pick. Shador need to
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  Speaker 1: be glad because that's how we would know he was
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  Speaker 1: sorry is if Jimmy Haslam made the decision to take him.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslam didn't take him. That's why we say he
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  Speaker 1: might have a chance.
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  Speaker 2: But pace yourself.
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  Speaker 1: We got plenty of time for y'all's silliness as the
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  Speaker 1: season progresses. And then once the season gets going, y'all
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  Speaker 1: can be silly about it and there'll be other actual
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  Speaker 1: football going.
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  Speaker 2: So I won't have to pay attention to y'all. Please,
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  Speaker 2: just wait. Do it for your boy. All right, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Something happened this weekend that, whew, I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 1: what happened is funny, but it reminded me of stuff, okay?
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: The Yankees.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: It's obviously a funny situation.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: It is, right?
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: It's not not funny.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: It's not not funny.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: The Yankees did Old Timers Day at Yankee Stadium, which
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: is a big deal for Yankees fans, right? They really
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: get into Old Timers Day. And Mariano Rivera did Old
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Timers Day. And he tore his Achilles tendon. Ryan, I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: didn't see how he tore his Achilles tendon. Did you
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: see how he tore his Achilles tendon?
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: They did not confirm it. Because if you see in
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: the reporting, it's like he ran out to first, and
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: he kind of tripped. So they're not sure when the
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: injury happened, but he was still out there running around
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: 55 years old.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out, like, did he try
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: to leg out a double? Or was he really trying
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to get his legs into that cutter?
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: I think it was just a false step, like trying
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to get a fly ball.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, so he tore his Achilles, and that's bad.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: But my man Terry sent me a text, and I'm
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: so glad he did because he wouldn't have made the
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: show until he said this.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: And I don't even think Ryan know about this. He
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: said the.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Texas said it's time to remind people why they stopped
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: playing the old time is gay in the NBA.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Are you familiar with what happened with this?
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: OK, OK, OK.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: So if I am not mistaken, the first old time
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: is the.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: First rookie game.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Was in the year 1994 at the All-Star Game. Now
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you will remember the 1994 All-Star Game if you were
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: my age, because that was the one where Scottie Pippen
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: had the red shoes and he cut his hair down
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: and so his shit looked like this. Like it looked
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like somebody was just grabbing him by the top of
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the head and carrying him around. Y'all remember that if
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you saw it. Like you're like, wow, why Scottie keep
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: that box for so long? Because he ain't had a
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: fade option. Anyway, the year before... they had had the all-star,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, the old-timers game. And the thing about the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: old-timers game was, like, Oscar Robertson in 1993 is still
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: playing in the old-timers game.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Like, they get some dudes out there, right?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: And apparently, they was really out there playing hard because
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: that 1993 all-timers game had two catastrophic injuries. One of
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: them was to David Thompson. who I believe tore his
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: patellar tendon.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Or his ACL.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: And the other one was to Norm Nixon, who I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: think tore his quadriceps tendon. Ryan, I could tell from
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: your face that you looked up and found out what
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: had happened. It said Alzheimer's game.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, one, this is before my time, so
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I didn't know this existed.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: But the idea of 40-year-olds going out there and essentially
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: doing a run at the Y is just... incredible.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: But we were watching the heroes of yesteryear. They were
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: dropping like flies.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Of course. Of course they were.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, we were carrying dudes off the floor because
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: I'm sure the problem was– yo, they can't get the
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: dudes to play hard in the regular all-star game, but
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: they got them to go hard enough that they were
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: injuring themselves in the all-timers game.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: And so they was like- Carrying their quadriceps.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: It was like, yo, we got to stop. We can't
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: do this anymore. We can't have it anymore.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: And so they stopped doing the all-timers game. But that
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: then led to us having an even better game.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Situation of an all-star, of an old-timers game. I keep
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: calling it an all-star game, but it wasn't.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: It was an old-timers game, and I need you guys
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to understand this.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Apparently, they only did this one time, okay? One time.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: But in 1985, Ray Perkins was the coach at Alabama,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and he had a bright idea. Why don't we have
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a game at the spring game Where on one side,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: we have the current team. On the other side, we
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: have a team of Alabama alumni.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: And they played a game of tackle football. You heard me.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: A game of tackle football. Okay?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So, on one side, you had Kenny Stabler, who is
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: now in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but who
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: at that point was too old to play NFL football anymore.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: He had just retired. On the other side, Cornelius Bennett. Ryan,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: are you at all familiar with Cornelius Bennett?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: That's before my time as well.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, so here's the thing about it. I understood that
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: he was before your time.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we still create players like this anymore,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: but there are guys who are like, okay, Odell Beckham
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: will be a great example of a player like this.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Odell Beckham will not make the hall of fame. Right.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: But if you was there, You know what we're talking
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: about here.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people will remember Odell Beckham in a way that
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: they won't remember someone like Torrey Holt or Isaac Bruce.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: That is a great way of looking at it.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Cornelius Bennett is an all-time great college football player who
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: was that type of NFL player, but an all-time great
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: college football player.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: The idea that Kenny Stabler ever was on the same
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: field with Cornelius- Probably in his mid-40s. Correct. No, it
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: was right at the end. It was right at the end.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: He was right at 40, right? And they're lucky that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like the new days where the kids show
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: up and go to spring day, like go on a
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: semester early, because then Derrick Thomas would have been out
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: there running down Kenny Stabler, okay? Now, when I say
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: an Alabama alumni team, John Hanna wasn't out there, right?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: It wasn't an alumni team of Alabama greats necessarily.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: It's people who still thought it was a good idea
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: to get out there and play tackle football against 20-year-olds.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Ryan, this game was played in 1985, and there was
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a player on the alumni team who played for Alabama
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: in 1942.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Could have served our country. Might have.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Who signed off on this? Right?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And also, if you are Cornelius Bennett, you can't go
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: full speed, can you?
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: You can't actually get out here doing this, right?
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Look, in our day and age right now, we got
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: 25-year-olds out here tearing their Achilles tendons.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Playing basketball. We can't be out here having Old Tombers
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Day no more.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was possible for somebody to get
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: hurt in an Old Tombers baseball game.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Are you serious?
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, to be fair, tearing your Achilles and pulling
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: your hamstring are the two injuries that you can get,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: you know, trying to run.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: But still.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I just saw that and I was just like, at once,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: this is tragic.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, here we go. Here we go.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It's not funny that Mariano Rivera tore his Achilles. It
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: is funny that Alabama played the alumni game. And I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: got there because I got to remind everybody of the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: 1993 Old Timers game with those catastrophic injuries where while
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you may not have found those injuries to be funny,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: it did make you laugh.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Which is not quite the same thing.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Quite often there are stories that come up in the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: news that are understandably not funny, but they still.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Make you laugh. Don't ask me what I'm talking about.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Top five coming up next. All right. Here we are.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: The dream we all dreamed of.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: The top five in our list of the top 25
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: athletes of the last 25 years for the year of
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: our Lord, 2025. Now, remember, for those of you, we're
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: only dealing with North Americans, all of whom had to
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: be 25 or under on January 1st in the.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Year 2000, right? Okay.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Now, we're going to run down for you the top
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: 25 athletes so far where we've gone on the list.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Number 25 was Randy Moss. Number 24, Cam Newton. Number 23,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Albert Puholtz. Number 22, Ray Lewis. Number 21, Tim Duncan.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: But you can kind of put them where you want.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Number 20, wildcard selection. For all you know-it-alls who wish
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: it was your list, put your own name on there.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Number 19, Katie Ledecky. Number 18, Mike Trout. Number 17,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Number 16, Aaron Rodgers. Number 15, Aaron Donald.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Number 14, Peyton Manning. Number 13, Kevin Durant. Number 12,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: My bad. I thought somebody was shooting. Sorry about that.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Number 11, Steph Curry. Number 10, Patrick Mahomes. Number 9,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Michael Phelps. Number 8, Shohei Ohtani. Number 7, Floyd Mayweather.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And number 6, Serena Williams.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Sorry, sisters. But, but, but, let's go to number 5.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Simone Biles.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Now, One characteristic of everybody that I have got in
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: this top 10 is you can make an argument for
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: every single person that they are the greatest of all
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: time at their sport, right? Like that is where everybody
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: in the top 10 got. You can make an argument
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: about Simone Biles that the gap between her and number two.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Is as big a gap as there is.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Between number one and number two of anybody on this list, right?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely in the cards that you can make that argument.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: We got some other people that we'll talk about that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I will tell you on the number one answer why
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I would not say that about that person. But to me,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the reason that Biles is so impressive, and again, it's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: not like I'm a person with a very sophisticated understanding
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: of gymnastics. I can only tell you but so much.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I bristle a bit at the people who talk about
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Serena Williams in the way that they do, just because
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: if I ask those same people who tell you that
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Serena Williams is the greatest female athlete ever and ask
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: them why she's better than Steffi Graf, a whole lot
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: of them start stumbling and asking, like, who is that again?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, that felt like the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: sort of thing where you just say it over and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: over again and people will go along with it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: You watch Simone Biles compared to everybody else, and it's like.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Is this what it was like when Jim Brown was playing?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Like where you look at somebody and they are just
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that much more physically talented than everybody else? But in
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the case of Biles, it's one thing to be so
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: physically talented and be so explosive, but then this is
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: a sport where you can't do that, but not have
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the grace and body control.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: The game is really grace and body control.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: So like to do the things that she's capable of
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: doing and then have the crazy body control and just
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: be out there over and over doing things. It's not
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: like she just doing things that other people can't do
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: as well as her.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: She out here doing stuff that they can't do. Hard stop.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: And Jim, so much of gymnastics is like set up
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: by what you're trying to accomplish.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: And that's how a lot of the scoring is done.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: That's how a lot of your judging against your peers.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: And where she was setting the bar was so much
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: higher than everyone else.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: And she didn't even have to be perfect at it
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: because nobody could come close to Eva doing things that
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: people couldn't even.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Dream of true.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: To do.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: There's no need for a gold medal in everything and
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: every time and you had the thing that happened in
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Tokyo with the twisties and all of this stuff or whatever.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It happens, right? But no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: As Americans, we watch a lot of gymnastics because it'd
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: be on the first week of the Olympics and America
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: is good at it, right? That wasn't what was going
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: on here, man. We were watching this because this was greatness.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: This was something unlike anything. I'm not sure the next
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: time we'll see people who can do the kinds of
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: things that she could do. I don't know if we'll
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: ever see anybody relative to her peers in that sport
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: who would be able to do the sorts of things
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that she did.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: And also when you look at the longevity of her, right?
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: We've talked more about peaks than longevity in this list,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: but you almost have two peaks.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: For gymnastics where your careers are so condensed, they're so short,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: and you have so many people coming up behind you,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: to have the run in 2016 she did and the
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: run in 2024. And honestly, they're talking about her potentially
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: being in some of the teams in 2028, and it's not–
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: out of this world that that's possible.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: She's so much better than everyone else.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: There's a different discussion as to whether or whether it's
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: time to go get a job.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: After a certain point, it's like, wow, look at you
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: with your four bachelor's degrees.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: But it'd be dope on campus, right? There's an element
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And don't forget the thing was she didn't go in
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: 2012 because she was a little bit too young.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Like one thing about gymnastics and the idea of longevity
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: that has changed is that once they put the minimum
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: age in at 16, because it used to be all
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: those children out there and children, there's flexibility stuff that
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: you could do when you are a child that you
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: cannot do when you are like an adult. The whole
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: game changed up in this sort of longevity became more
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: possible at this point. And I guess there's also just
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: more ways for her to make money for being Simone
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Biles off of this.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: But no, she's it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: She gets this number five proudly. And by the way, H-Town,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like Northside Suburban, no less.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: We don't get that many times to shine on people
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: over there on my part of things. I see you, Simone.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Simone comes in number five. And now we go to
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: number four.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady. Ryan, I don't know about you.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I was about to say his full name, but I
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: find few things quite as pretentious than people that got
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: multiple middle names.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. Especially when it's like almost he
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: has four first names.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Which is pretty rare. Yes, that is exactly it.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Was it Thomas Edward Patrick Brady or Thomas Patrick Edward
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Brady Jr.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Come on, man. It's a lot. How big is your
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Social Security card? Is that shit like this? So that
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: you can get everything.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: It's like one of those big checks.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly. Ant McMahon gave
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: you your social security card, right? Like it was really good.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: But what makes Tom Brady such an interesting person to
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: put on this list, and you guys know, I value
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: peak over longevity. However, the longevity is so staggering with Brady.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: And the idea of winning seven Super Bowls, seven Super Bowls,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, we'll be talking about here. Scott Casmar makes
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a very good point, and he's not wrong, and he
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: lays out a pretty thorough case for Tom Brady as
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the luckiest quarterback of all time. The Patriots had more
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: horseshoe keister alliance than any other team that you could
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: possibly think of. One thing that is fascinating about all
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: those Super Bowls that they won is how they're all close.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Like, I think.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: The biggest point differential on those Super Bowls was the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: one against the Eagles. And even that, I want to say,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: was something like a 10-point game, and the Eagles had
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: a chance to get there at the.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: End of the game. Like, the margins were always so
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: thin on the Patriots.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: But, hey, man, by and large, you could pretty much
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: guess that Tom Brady, at the very least, wasn't going
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to mess it up. And if there were plays that
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: needed to be made, there was a good chance that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: they would be made.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: And, hey, I think that We tend to overrate comebacks.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: And I think that we ignore the fact that in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: order for you to have to make a big comeback,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you also had to go down a long way. But, and, and, and,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: it was against the Falcons. They were never going to
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl anyway. Nothing was going to happen.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: They could have been up by 100 points. They would
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: have dropped a goddamn rocking jock basket out and Tom
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Brady would have threw a bitch through that and they'd
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: have been scoring 25 points every touchdown and they'd have
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: won the game too. They were playing the Falcons, but
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: You had to have the steely resolve within yourself to say,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: we're not out of this yet. We got a chance
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to go ahead and do it. Patrick Mahomes, most talented
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: quarterback I've ever seen. When the Eagles was whooping that ass,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: there was not a moment where I thought, all right,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: now I think the comeback's about to start.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, Tom Brady started his career beating Kurt Warner
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl and almost ended it by beating
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. That's like, this is
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: the kind of longevity we're talking. I remember kind of
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: breaking it down. You could break it down almost having
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: three separate Hall of Fame careers.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, this is what I find interesting about that
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: with Tom Brady. The best version of Tom Brady never
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Right. Right.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: The Patriots won those three Super Bowls in four years
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: from 01 to 04. Then from 05 to 13, that's
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: nine years where they did not win a Super Bowl.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Within those nine years, they had an undefeated season, right?
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: You have that 2011 year where I want to say
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Brady has something like 37 touchdowns and.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Four interceptions, but your number one receiver is Julian Edelman.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Like when you look at what the receivers were pre-Moss
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and post-Moss, and this guy was doing the things that
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: he was doing and putting up the numbers that he was.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Doing, and how was he doing it?
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: By playing exceptionally well and making really good decisions.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, football used to be so much built
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: like outside in, right? You had these, you know, big
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: receivers on the outside. They're cutting in. You know, that's
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: kind of the West Coast offense. And then in that
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: 2011 team with those two tight ends when they had
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski, and they were able to
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: almost like reinvent the game on the fly just because
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: of Tom Brady, you know. He had his supercomputer back there.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Well, that was the thing, right? Rob Gronkowski is the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: greatest tight end who ever played.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Like, hard stop. And Hernandez, look, I mean, you can't
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: act like it didn't happen, right? Or he never existed.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Hernandez, as your second tight end, was kind of nuts.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: But we're still talking about in the NFL, you're running
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: an offense based on having two tight ends. You can
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: do that with an excellent quarterback like the one that
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: they had and the one who out there like, hey, man,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: this is how I grind.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: So this is how we're all going to grind.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: But if you're to ask somebody what's so good about
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady is that he's really good. Like when somebody
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: says they see somebody in a draft and they're like, oh,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: he reminds me of Tom Brady. What does that mean? Right.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady is not here because of traits. He's here
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: because of execution. And I just can't think of anybody
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: at any sport who was that good at simply executing.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: What's it like to go in the backyard and pretend
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to be Tom Brady? You stand real still and be
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: unafraid of somebody hitting you?
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: What is there to mimic? What is there to emulate?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: And then walked into another team where he had kind
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: of split the credit for that sort of execution and
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: that will and that discipline. and then walked in to
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay of all places, and then made everyone follow
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: him and won the Super Bowl as soon as he
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: got there.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yes. And it's... The overall body of work is so
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: strong that it overcomes my own personal preferences.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: But look, let's say we talk about peak.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Let's put it there. The peak is an undefeated season
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: with 50 touchdown passes. Right. Okay, that's a.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Or winning three Super Bowls in four years.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Or having the greatest comeback in football history.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: It goes, you know.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: It's over and over and over again. We can list it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: We can list it. We can list it. We can
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: go so many times over. And he earned it, Jack. Like,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: if you want to get in there and.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Like, you want to teach your kids about hard work,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: he really will. I was about to say the training
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: prayers and the vitamins, but he out there hanging out
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: with Alex Guerrero.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I don't know what the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: hell they'd be over there doing with that TB12. They
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: still doing that.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: You remember when TB12 was going to be the way
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: that he got his money? I don't really hear about
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the TB12 no more.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Guerrero's with the Raiders.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Really? He strikes me as Raider-y.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Yep. He's part of the Brady ownership.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot. That's right. Tom Brady's Raiders too.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Well, they're going to be the most pliable, flexible team.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: In the whole league, apparently.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Alex Guerrero going to come in there and be like,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: wait until Pete Carroll finds out how Alex Guerrero feels
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: about weightlifting.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I would love to see those two have a conversation.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they have different standards, if you will.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I would actually love to see that conversation between Tom
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Brady and Christian Wilkins. That's the conversation I want. Wow.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: We'll get back to that. Anyway, number three. LeBron James.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: It's going to happen again, Ryan.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, guys.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I want to be very honest with you here. It's
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: almost a coin flip. for me between number three and
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: number two.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: So what I'm not going to do is get here
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: and make the case for why LeBron is not higher.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I just want to talk about the greatness of LeBron James, right?
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: And I think I've tried my best on this list
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: to not be at a place where I have to
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: explain to you why it is that somebody isn't or
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: whatever it is to go with the negatives because this
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: is intended to be a celebration of who the people are.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: if you weren't really of age in 2003, like it's
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: one thing to have been a younger person like in
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: middle school or maybe even high school in 2003. It
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: was another to have been old enough to have a
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: little bit more historical frame of reference. And so I'm
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: 23 when LeBron hits the league.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: There has never been Okay, I.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Don't want to say there never been a player as
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: hyped as LeBron because that's not true. I was here
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: for the Shaq hype of 1992, for example, right? What
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: made it a little different with LeBron is that with Shaq,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: he was as big as he was and we had
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: watched him do it for three years in college. There
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: was a bit more of a proof of concept to
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: let us know what was going to happen when he
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: got to the league.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: And it was immediate.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: It was instantaneous in a way that with LeBron being
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: 18 years old when he got there, it was not
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: going to be. However, we spoke of what was possible
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: with LeBron in reverential terms that seemed unfair at the time.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: It seemed preposterous to make an argument that an 18
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: year old who was not a center would be one
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: of the upper echelon all-time greats in the NBA. And
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: despite the hiccups, despite the ups and downs of the
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: first nine years of his career, he managed to exceed
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: all of it.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: All of it.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: He did that, right? The thing that I don't think
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: that people who believe... People who believe LeBron is the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: greatest player of all time and do not believe that
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: it was Michael Jordan have a tendency to just say
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: that everybody who does this is like some sort of
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Jordan lover, da-da-da, and everything else, and you just refuse
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: to give LeBron credit for anything.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think you guys get this. LeBron did more
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: than anybody could have ever possibly asked for him to
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: do as an NBA.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Player, right?
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Even those of us who don't have him as number
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: one easily and willingly believe make this point. Being as
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: good as the Cleveland Cavaliers were with him that first
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: run where you're winning 66 games and your second best
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: player is Mo Williams.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: What are we talking about here?
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: The Miami version of LeBron, which, hey, if you want
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: to say that the Miami version of LeBron is the
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: best basketball player you've ever seen, I don't really have
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: room to argue with you about that. It was mind-blowing
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to watch what it was that he was capable of.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Winning three championships and being a finals MVP, on three
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: different teams is unreal. The 2016 NBA finals, the top
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: line stuff on LeBron's resume is so unreal and so
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: incredible that those of us who were here and got
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: to see it are absolutely fortunate, right? The all time
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: leading scorer in the history.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Of the NBA.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: And most of us do not believe that scoring was
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the thing that he was best at. He's Wayne Gretzky
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: in that regard. Like every comparison that we make across
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: sports when it comes to LeBron is somebody that's.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Way crazy high in their shit over there, too.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Like we won getting able to see this and all
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: of these things that we're talking about while he is
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the combination of the supercomputer brain and maybe being as
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: physically gifted as any basketball player has ever been while
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: also serving as an unreal, incredible ambassador for the sport.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: We won having this guy here. He was amazing to watch.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: He was, we have done all of ourselves a great
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: disservice by locking in so much on the arguments about
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the best two players of all time. Because again, it
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: requires you to find ways to diminish somebody as good
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: as him. And look, there are knocks and criticisms that
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: you can make of anybody else. But when that becomes
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: the defining conversation, then much of the conversation becomes defined
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: by talking about what somebody didn't do right or where
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: somebody came up short. In spite of how many examples
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: we have of where this guy came up big, where
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: this dude stood tall, and where this guy exceeded all
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: of these things with the weight of a league and
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: a world on his shoulders. He was incredible. We are
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: lucky to have him here. And he's number three on
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: this list, which is an incredibly prestigious honor.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Number two. Eldridge Tiger Woods.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Now, guys, I got to tell you, I wish I
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: had been a radio host with his career first got
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: started or whatever. I didn't really get a crack into
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: it right before, you know. He got run up on
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Things went sideways.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, this this that is a great way to put it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: They went sideways. I will never. Wow. As I talk about,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: we should be celebrating people not talking about the bad
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: stuff anyway.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I remember that when that report first came out, they
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: said he was seriously injured in a car accident in
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: his driveway. And I was like, you can't go fast
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: enough in your driveway to get seriously injured. Something's going on.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: And then we found out he got run up on
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: with a, she ran up on him with that iron,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: but no, no, no, no, not that iron. Yeah.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: The iron. And, and how about this? And iron rather
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: than that.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: There we go. That is what happened to him, man.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Listen, The reason I am putting Tiger Woods here is
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: this is, again, a gap discussion. And the gap between
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Tiger Woods and everybody else in his sport was so
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: vast and so great that I cannot ignore, right? I
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: also have to note about Tiger Woods, and I think
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: that this part gets to be very important, I can't
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: think of anybody else on this list that, Ryan, they
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: did so much to the course at Augusta to stop
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Tiger from being Tiger, that a course that never had
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: any left-handed champions just started having left-handers winning all over
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: the place. because they changed it up so much to
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: try to stop Tiger Woods. Now, it's one thing to
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: me if you decide that you're going to change the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: course because everybody is out here wrecking shop and it's
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: just gotten too easy.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: The course had not gotten too easy.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Everyone's winning at minus 20 or whatever.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: The course had not gotten too easy. The course was
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: as hard as it had ever been. It was this
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: one dude that showed up like that right there. That was,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: it's so funny. That was the metaphor for we got
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: to work twice as hard. A statement that Tiger Woods
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: probably has no idea the origins of, by the way.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever got that speech, but
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: you won't talk about the man.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Trying to hold somebody down.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: The man tried to hold Tiger Woods down so bad
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: at Augusta that it is unforgettable to me 1997 the
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: first golf the first time i ever went out of
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: my way to watch a round of golf was the
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: 1996 masters where greg norman blew that lead by the
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: turn against greg faldo nick faldo this was the opposite
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: of greg norman this was this was just we just
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: watched about a coronation i remember that in 97 he
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: shot a 40 on the front nine in the first
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: round which is terrible He shot a 30 on the
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: back nine, which is unreal.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: And it never stopped from there.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: From there, it did not stop for 12 years. There's
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Pebble Beach where he beat them all by what, 15
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: strokes or whatever it was. There is the Tiger Slam
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: when that came around. There is winning the ninth, was
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: it the 1998 US Open on a broken leg?
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: It was 2008, 2008 US Open, yeah.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: We have completely forgotten that happened.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: He won the playoff round on Monday on a broken leg.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: How the fuck do you play golf with a broken leg?
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: He did it on a broken leg. We can run through.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: All these things that he pulled off in a sport that,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: generally speaking, this is what my brother and I talked about.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: My brother plays a lot more golf than me, but
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: he's like, Golf is a sport that you can't really
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: appreciate watching on television if you haven't played golf. Like,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: there's no way for you to explain to somebody just
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: how hard the things are that people are doing if
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you're not watching.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: How hard the things are that the worst player on
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: tour is doing. Correct.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: And even if you're watching and have played, unless you've
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: played on courses of that caliber, you can't understand what
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: it is to say, Tiger Woods managed to stick that
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: on a green from however many yards with a seven iron.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Where everybody else is shooting with a wedge and it's
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: hitting the green and then rolling all the way back
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: down right like there's subtleties to playing golf that you
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: just can't get unless you watch and Tiger Woods made
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: watching golf mesmerizing in large part because he was so
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: amazing to the people who happened to watch it right Now,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: of course, a great part of the Tiger Woods legacy
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: is the sort of multiculturalism or the multiculturalism of the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: idea of Tiger Woods, though Tiger Woods did not lead
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: to this huge influx of multiculturalism on the course.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Of course it wouldn't. They don't want a multicultural course, dumbass. Right.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Like them seeing Tiger Woods play golf and then being like, wow,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: we can get more black people out here.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Hell no. What do you think they want next? Their
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: wives to come with them? That's crazy. It's the opposite
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: of why they're out there doing it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: They see Tiger Woods and they're like, damn, we got
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: to get more of them boys playing football than ever.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Next thing you know, they're going to come over here
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: and start playing this.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: But on the course for the observers.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: And for everything that you ever have known about the
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: social factors surrounding like elite level golf, because golf is
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: a people's game to buy. Everybody who tells you that
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: golf is a rich people's game needs to go to
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: a muni, right? Like, Ryan, I imagine you played at
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: a few munis yourself.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: It is a game of the people.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, it's a game for everybody.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the thing that is lost more
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: than anything else. And when Tiger Woods was out there,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: he was a man of the people, even though he
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: was clearly not a man of the people in many ways.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: But everybody could get on board with that. Kids were
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: on board with that.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Old folks were on board with that. White folks, gangsters,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: and the thugs, all on board with that, right? Everything...
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I can't think of even with LeBron, even with like.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, I guess is kind of an example where like, yo,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: we're all here for the show, right? Regardless of your
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: rooting for him or not, we're all here for the show.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Tiger had us all here for the show. And I'll
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: never forget. I think it was actually of all people,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb, who made this great point once where I
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: saw somebody say, well, you know, with Tiger, he can
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: only win, you know, if his putting is not going,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: then he doesn't win.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because nobody's beating him if his putting is on.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: That was your only hope. is that the putter wasn't
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: working that day. That was it. He's that guy.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: My favorite thing about Tiger now is he is talking
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: about a different mythical athlete is Mike Tyson.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: It's where he still gets us. If he's out there,
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: he still gets us and we still convince ourselves he
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: can win.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Yo, that is it.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Every time he shows up at Augusta, there will be
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: a contingent, a large contingent of people's like, I don't know.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: We'll see how these first two rounds go.
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  Speaker 1: He has only won the Masters one time in the
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  Speaker 1: last 20 years. Before he pulled that last one, right?
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  Speaker 1: Which was his Nicholas in 86. He hadn't won since 2005.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Because they, again, had.
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  Speaker 1: Done so much to the course to make it out. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: no one man should have all that power. That's what
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I would be saying about myself under those circumstances. Y'all
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  Speaker 1: got to change up y'all whole course. For me, no
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: one man should have all that All right, number one,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the top athlete of the last 25 years in 2025,
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  Speaker 1: Usain Bolt.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Look guys, the man has had the world record for
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: the 100 meters Since the year 2008.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: We're coming up on 20 years of him holding the
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: world record in the 100-meter dash. I'm pulling this up
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  Speaker 1: for you right now so you can know what the
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: progression has been on holding the world record.
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  Speaker 2: In the 100-meter dash. All right? Excuse me, 2009.
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  Speaker 1: He set the record himself twice in 2008, and he
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: has held it by himself since 2009. When he set
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the record in May of 08, the record had stood for.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: About eight months. It has stood for a year before that, okay?
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  Speaker 2: I'll just run through you.
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  Speaker 1: The record got broken in 07, in 06, three times
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: in 06, 05, 02, 99, 96, 94, 91, 88, 88, and.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of that was drugs. But you know, we
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: can run through.
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  Speaker 1: The point that I'm making that you're seeing is these
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  Speaker 1: world records.
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  Speaker 2: Have typically held up, okay?
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: The world record was broken in Mexico City in 1968
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: and then held up for 14 years. Now, it's worth
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: noting that if you've ever seen the Bob Beam and
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Long Jump of Mexico City, Mexico City was putting up
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: incredible times at those Olympics.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Bolt has now had that record for 15 years, 15 years.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: And I contend being the best runner of the 100
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: meters makes you the king of all things, because that's
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: the thing that everybody does. That's the thing that everybody
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: has done. Everybody has run a race. Even your fat
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: ass has run a race.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Everybody. I know. I know. That's right.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. Everybody has run a race at
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: some point. And he is not just the king of
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: the race running. It was incredible to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Him run the race.
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  Speaker 1: And I will point out, and it is entirely possible
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: that the 19.3 that he put up in the 200
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: might be more impressive than the 958 that he.
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  Speaker 2: Put up in the 100.
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  Speaker 1: He won the 100 and the 200.
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  Speaker 2: At three straight Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the reason where I said earlier that Simone Biles
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: might have a bigger gap than anybody is Carl Lewis
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: was also doing this while doing the long jump.
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  Speaker 2: And that matters, right?
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: There's something to that, to have that, to be able
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: to do that also in another event. But for this
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: time period, I have never had anybody blow me away
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the first time I've ever seen them, like Usain Bolt,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: that time he ran that 100-meter dash in Beijing in
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the finals in 2008. I've never seen anything like it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: But you control for all the things, the socioeconomic stuff,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: for access, for everything else. He did this in the
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: event that everybody's got an opportunity. to do in one
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: way or another. And to this day, nobody is coming close, right?
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I had gotten this wrong when we talked about it
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: before on the show. Tyson Gay ran a 9.8 in
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the Olympics in London in 2012 and did not even
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: get a medal.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Did not even get a medal.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Everybody was so happy to finish in second and third place.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: because there wasn't nobody beating that monster at the front.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody in the world. And he walked away as that
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: dude at the top. You're the best at the most
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: universally applicable thing in athletics that can be done. You
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: get to be number one on our list of the
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: top 25 athletes of the last 25 years. And I
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: want to thank all you guys for riding with us
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: along the way, checking this out. We still got the
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: context episodes coming. So Wednesday, we're going to talk with
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: my guy, Michael Smith, about the last 25 years of
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: the black quarterback.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Would it change? Would it stay the same? All of
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: that stuff.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: And then something that you won't want to miss. We
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: invited my good buddy Nick Wright on to come on
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: on Friday. And Nick is going to critique our list today.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: of top 25 athletes. Because Ryan, you have worked with Nick.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: You can verify this. Don't nobody care more about putting
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: the list together than Nick. Nobody's more meticulous about these things.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And he damn sure more meticulous than me.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: He is Mr. List, and the idea was almost always
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: put together with the idea of him being the cherry
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: on top at the end of it.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: And we got a little twist on it for you.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Check that out on Friday.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: You guys aren't going to want to miss.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: But hey, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining
• 57:42
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• 57:47
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• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Take it easy.