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161. Looking forward to the rest of 2026 in Mythic Legions, Cosmic Legions and Figura Obscura. · The Euro Legions Podcast

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  My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
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  I can hear it in the hall now. It is breaking down crying.
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  It turns out that Attila the arrogant soul.
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  And so he's got a fake hammer. Oh.
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  A. Fake.
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  Yeah. Whoa.
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  As I say, Dick. Welcome to episode 161 of the
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  Religions Podcast. And this week we're going to
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  chat about what we think is happening for the rest of the
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  year. Not so much a predictions
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  episode and because you know, that's almost impossible, but
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  more of a little road map what we feel might be dropping and
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  more of a maybe wish list and kind of based on.
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  Column B. Based on past performance of the
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  horsemen and of course some they're they usually change
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  things up, but I think we have a few things that we know are are
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  coming. So like for example, that
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  reinforcements wave likely to be the major mythics wave.
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  There's going to be a cosmic wave, there's going to be G con
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  wave. So we can definitely talk about
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  those things. But anyway, how's mouth doing
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  Well. Yeah, good, good.
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  Busy, busy, busy as ever it feels like since the turn of the
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  year. But yeah, good, good, busy.
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  Can't complain, you know. Yeah, you were telling me you've
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  you've made the mistake recently.
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  You've been on the early shift at work on the day on the
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  recording days, which makes it a bit tricky out, stretches the
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  day a bit. It's me.
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  It works it all out. So it's just be, you know.
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  You're just being nice to other people basically as.
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  Usual. And it falls that those are the
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  days I go in the office, but then I have to get there extra
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  early because I'm on the early shift.
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  Yeah, it's my own fault, but hey, hey.
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  And Rich has things with you. I'm pissed off and fed up, but
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  never. Anything in particular or?
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  Work in the main. But OK, just certainly don't
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  want to know about that. So we have to cheer you up
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  tonight then, by talking about all the awesome stuff that
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  you're working hard for, yeah. I was thinking too, it's like
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  people want to know what's coming.
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  All the other future waves just listen to my predictions because
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  so. So that is this week's episode
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  where there's just lots of shark men and lizard men talk and.
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  They like. Only ones each are trying to get
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  me into cosmic because I can't do that.
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  OK, Right. Yeah.
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  Fair enough. Well, it's my birthday this
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  week, so I'm, you know, I'm feeling a little bit old.
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  Yeah, 47. Can you believe it?
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  I wish I was going to be 47 this week.
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  OK, Yeah. I'll be I'll be 52 next month.
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  Yeah, I know you. I know your birthday is in June
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  because you you always celebrated on the show or what?
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  I just happened to be very close to around the recording times of
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  the show the last few years. So, well, this year's thank you
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  had the big one, of course. Yeah, it's the day the masses
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  the Universe movie opens. So I've got the day off work.
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  I'm going to see the film hopefully won't let me down,
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  spoil my birthday. Yeah, I'm super excited for
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  that. And we got Mandalorian and
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  Grogu. Whatever you think about modern
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  Star Wars, I still think that's going to be a lot of fun.
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  Going to try and bring my kids to that and to the He Man movie
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  as well. The Masters of the Universe so
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  should we find lots of master the universes toys going out I
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  even saw today they announced Mal popped a dinner chat hot
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  toys they teased he man and Skeletor.
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  Man and Skeletor, yeah. Before, before I was collecting
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  mythics, I was collecting masters and I would have been
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  absolutely over the moon about that.
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  So I can only imagine how the hardcore as the Universe fans
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  are feeling and how it might differentiate from the mondo
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  stuff that's going to be the most interesting.
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  Yeah, I wonder if they all they've got maybe the movie
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  licence. So it's going to be that rather
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  than anything. Else it did look, it did look
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  like the movie figures on the tease, which makes sense, I
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  think. Yeah.
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  I've got to say, I mean, again, despite the Origins collection
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  behind me, that's as much about like the figures as the actual
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  property itself. But although I'm very excited
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  for the MOTU movie, I feel like they're doing a really good job.
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  Others have to tell me what they think of giving the characters a
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  movie version of the looks they have, you know, something that
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  works on a live action. And so that's got me quite
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  excited as well. You know, I think that's I
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  think. Yeah, that's it just looks
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  really well done. So I just hope that the movie is
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  successful. And I mean, of course people
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  that aren't into mode 2, they might find it a bit silly.
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  But you know, there's people that find the Marvel movies
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  silly. So, you know, not really too
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  worried about that. But if it has a mass field, if
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  kids like it, I think that would be one of the biggest things
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  really. And yeah, it was it was it
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  Anthony Arcel was messages recently about what would we
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  think about an origins type mythics.
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  That's it. Yeah.
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  I don't know if we meant to say that out loud.
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  I don't know. But that was his idea to kind of
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  like something he might do in the future.
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  But yes, he he was conjecture on what we thought of a Yeah,
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  exactly that. Oranges style.
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  Mythic orange characteristics characters in origin style.
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  I think it would be cool, but it might only work for certain
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  races and factions. Rich hates it.
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  No, I don't like the idea at all, sorry.
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  Basically House of the Noble there.
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  Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
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  And I think the origin style stuff, you need kids to buy lots
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  of it also. And with no sort of property
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  behind it, they're not going to buy.
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  No. Origin versions of myth
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  allegiance figures. I'm not sure I agree.
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  I think origin, I think the fans of that that scale and and I
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  think you get the Knights because of course the big thing
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  with with most origins and MOTU and vintage master the universe
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  is the reuse of parts, though, you know, they reconfigure them,
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  reuse and repaint them, which is what legions does really.
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  So I think I think you could do it.
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  I think you know. I what I think would be cool is
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  to, you know, get some base origins figures and maybe make
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  mythic customs from that base, you know, mythic legions customs
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  from that kind of basis. Then they're just one-of-a-kind
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  cool things. But yeah, you know, I think they
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  could work based on or depending on character selection, you
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  know, Knights in that scale might be interesting.
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  You might need a slimmer body. Say again, I think if you like
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  your origins and you may treat, I think a night looking like
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  that would be cool. You know, it's yeah, different
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  strokes and all that. We're getting derailed here and
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  we do have we do have more mythics on the way if there
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  hasn't been enough lately. Crashing into your mailbox got
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  our in stock orders this week. I think everyone got theirs
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  today. I did.
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  Ashes of AG Bendor is on the water, yes.
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  Very cool. It doesn't seem that long ago we
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  were doing the episode about this where I was through my toys
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  out of the Prambutt Centre and not really, not really, but
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  basically said I didn't like it, not a big deal.
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  It was two years ago, I believe. Yeah, I just realised looking at
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  as well. I just had I I haven't ordered
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  any of the blue figures so I'm bluest.
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  Whoa. But I ordered the other ones and
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  in that way, instead of getting an all in, I've got some extras
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  of the ones that I really liked. And so I probably won and done
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  with all of these based on the order I put in.
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  So don't need to go chasing any extras or anything like that.
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  So that's great. Having bad mouth the as a two I
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  went all in and saw my regional as a SO yeah no I have got the
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  blue ones coming. I mean, it is a better version
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  of as a Oh yeah, and I she's the one I'll probably pick up, you
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  know, maybe at Legions con for example, it might still have
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  her, but I can also live without her.
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  So at this point in time. Yeah, I got, I got the all in.
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  I think I might have gotten a few more goblins, but I don't
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  think I got extras of anything else.
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  So I think I intended to get high passion and then it's all
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  sold out everywhere. Isn't it really?
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  Yeah, it's a tricky one. Yeah, I think I got extra of the
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  skeleton, gold skeleton, the goblins and Kai Pasha, so not
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  too bad. And maybe we're too Sway, but
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  maybe I don't need them now because of all the other stuff
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  we've got in the meantime, you know?
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  Yeah, I went all in and I think I I want to order another Frost
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  Ogre, maybe a Blue Shield. I'm probably another Scally as
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  well and the thing that probably done that at that point.
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  I think the Blue Shield would be very popular.
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  It's basically the Night Builder 2.0 isn't it?
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  Absolutely, and might be easier to get because Jeruso won't be
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  buying as many of those because he'd be buying himself instead.
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  I hope they hope they ship them just a dozen of them, you know,
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  Although that would be a tough precedent to set, you know,
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  because then they have, is it four people they have mentioned
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  on the 2 pack? Yeah.
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  So we had a lot of free figures. But anyway, cool.
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  We will talk about those in hand as they arrive.
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  I think we all went directed. We.
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  Yes. No, I don't think I did.
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  Allow me to my spreadsheet. Bear with me.
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  OK, well while you're checking your spreadsheet, we can also
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  pop up another NEWS UPDATE, which was the bathe here.
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  They gave an update and Bathe here.
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  I did see the odd posts in the last couple of weeks.
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  I know they're not, they're not talking about the OPG and all
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  the other stuff. But you know, I paid my money
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  for Bathe Here and I haven't heard much since.
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  And I can imagine some people probably came in and just got
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  this because it's a cool dragon and are not in the cycle of
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  mythics as much. So they don't have our kind of
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  inbuilt, I would say patience, but you know, expectations for
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  how the way. Yeah, the way it works.
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  And yeah, they did a cool beta update.
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  So he's now in tooling. So engineering and yeah, which
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  is basically part of the engineering is the tooling
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  process. This is where all the money is
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  going basically a lot, well, a lot of the money this and paint
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  is your massive big production expenses for for this type of
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  stuff. So they make yeah, big steel
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  moulds for all the different bits.
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  And if you see here in this picture, all those bits, we
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  don't need to zoom in individually on them there.
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  But there is a bunch. I'd say you know, dozens of
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  parts. They're of different sizes.
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  Wonder of care to saw that and thought he's going to need to
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  get a bigger table. If he does, if he does that
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  review of the exploded review of this guy, then I think he'll
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  he'll deserve a few extra Subs for sure, and a few extra views.
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  That will be a lot of work. But I would love love to see a
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  video of them doing the steel moulds, not even necessarily for
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  the dragon, but just for a figure sort of thing, because it
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  must. Be you know.
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  You've got to get like millimetre right?
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  And that I'd love the geeky part.
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  We would love to see a. Video of that, yeah.
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  I'd say it would have to be like a little compilation of
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  different videos done over days because I imagine it takes.
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  Oh yeah, a bit of time. Yeah.
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  But yeah, that would be very cool to see.
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  And maybe they can do that when they employ that extra
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  production person that they were looking for, someone who is
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  going to help Chris coordinate the production and go to China
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  regularly enough. So might be a little mission for
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  them. That would be cool, wouldn't it?
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  Yeah. And if it's a younger person,
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  they'll have the social media skills you know, to, to do the
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  videos and in terms of fulfilment.
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  And my actions about Bendor was UK one still.
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  OK, fair enough. I'll.
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  Be waiting as normal. Yeah, yeah.
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  Say on that. So it's basically coming end of
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  June, they expect to to the Horseman's warehouse in New
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  Jersey, then ship the direct orders shipped out and then the
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  retailer day to follow, which going on the usual kind of flow
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  of things, it'll probably be late July, early August would be
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  my guess. Yeah.
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  So we shall see then bait here in terms of fulfilment.
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  So the the the mega interesting part on that end of this year,
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  the first shipments. So because of the size of Bay
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  theory is going to be coming in a few dozen containers from
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  China. So it won't be like our waves of
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  figures where they just come in, you know, maybe one or two
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  containers and all boxed up and then they ship them out
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  reasonably quickly. This is going to come in over a
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  couple of months. So I don't know if anyone
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  ordered some of the big stuff from Super Seven that happened a
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  little bit this way as well. I didn't either, but I remember
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  hearing about it following. So they would have got batches
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  of stuff. And of course, someone will be
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  first and someone won't be first.
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  They'll be last. They'll be complaining.
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  And it won't be personal, and it won't be based on the time you
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  ordered. It'll just be probably random
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  for this one, except for the people that have ordered it for
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  collection, they will be given dates and apparently they said
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  back then when they were offering that service that it
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  will be towards the end of the delivery dates.
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  So the collection people will have to wait a little bit.
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  They'll be offered a couple of different dates by the Horsemen
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  and they'll be able to come and collect their stuff.
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  So that'll be a logistical nightmare, but you know, it'll
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  work out in the end. You want your dragon, you'll go
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  and get it, won't you? Yeah, for sure.
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  We'd all love to be able to drive.
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  Rent a rent a highest van and drive over to the Horseman's
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  Warehouse. That'd.
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  Be very dangerous, but yes, it would be good.
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  While I'm here, here's the list. If I want, can you just load
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  that up? I wonder how many chances are
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  going to be there like, yeah, got any of those revenants?
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  You know there'll be someone. Like the the back alley junkies
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  has to crack addicts. And then here we have the
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  measurements in of course, none of your inches or any of that
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  crap feet, proper millimetres. There you go.
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  The only accurate way to measure something.
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  So there we go. He's going to be tails and nose
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  basically 11.122 metres. So that is a lot, a lot.
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  It's a big. Half a metre to display me.
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  Half a metre tall. The wings are almost half a
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  metre wide. He's a big boy.
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  He's a big lad. Yeah, crazy.
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  And the flame, the flaming breath bit is including the
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  head. He won't be going to my
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  fireplace or my unused fireplace that I had planned, because that
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  won't fit. And there's no way of curling
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  him up. I don't think it's.
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  Going to be a very, very big display cabinet to itself, isn't
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  it? It sure is.
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  And remind me again, Rich didn't get a dragon.
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  I didn't, no. I just don't have the display
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  space. I almost went for the head, the
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  sort of head in the fire right set.
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  I'm going to set it up as like coming out of the wall or
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  something like that. But I just, yeah, I couldn't
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  figure out how to make that work.
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  And Mal has one on the way, so Rich would be driving across to
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  Birmingham. Too, I will be visiting Miles.
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  Feed and purpose in person Yeah, every.
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  Time I stretch out to touch him, I'll be just like whacking me
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  with a rule or something like back.
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  Glass Trust. Me.
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  Oh, come on. You have to let him.
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  You have to let him see it. A bit closer than that.
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  All you've seen is the prototype behind glass, you know.
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  Yeah. Going to be a fun piece to
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  display. Yeah, definitely if we can find
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  a place to to display it, right. So no more, no more pictures
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  tonight. It's just going to be our ugly
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  mugs. So we're going to get into
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  legions for the rest of 2026. How about that?
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  So. It might cheer me up because I
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  just upset myself again when we talk about actually about
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  Bendor. I've suddenly popped onto a
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  website which had the ones the extras I wanted in stock and
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  they sold out of the Blue Shield Soldier so.
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  Oh, no, never mind. Calm down, calm down.
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  Never mind. Yeah, Yeah, it's fine.
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  It's fine. Right.
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  And now do you want to kick us off with the what you think is
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  coming next? Or, well, you can go by mythics.
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  Just go with what we think next, which we think is probably going
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  to be, I'm guessing the Legion builder or Legion reinforcements
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  builders, whatever you want to call them. 3 was the number on
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  there on the screen, the magic number?
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  Do you want me to go through all of them, or should I just pick
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  one of that and we'll do it like that round Robin sort of thing?
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  No, But yeah, let's do it like like that until we run out.
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  So well, I actually think we'll get based on other ones.
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  We'll get 7 in all. The first one I've put is we're
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  going to get a Templar again, maybe in different colours and
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  called something else because you know, Templars are popular.
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  Although I I mean this one rich might know better.
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  I'm only aware of red white black white and white black as
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  being actual Templar colours. But this is fantasy, so they
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  could pretty much make it whatever colour they want and I.
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  They could you mean the ironically the the Templar
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  colour that you know. So the white and red obviously
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  is the the real life or Templar thing, as was black and red.
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  But obviously, Sir Gerard's nick that option, yeah.
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  So yeah, they'd have to use a different a different.
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  Made-up colour. Scheme, yeah, like the white and
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  black one they've had for the relic guards, for instance.
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  That's the colour scheme that the Teutonic Knights used in
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  their life, so yeah. Well, I actually wonder if we'll
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  get the fake cloth parts that the RPG Paladin Cleric has for
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  it as well, because it was mentioned at some point that
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  they'd been. Ready to go for a while?
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  They're previously told here. Yeah, yeah.
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  So I wonder if This is why they were previously told or they
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  know they can use it for that. So that's my first guess for the
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  Legion. But guess what?
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  Yeah. I didn't say I had not a
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  Templar, but I had the same thing about.
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  So I was like, the Knights, always really popular, but
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  they've done so many Knights, how can they do different ones?
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  Like those soft goods, the faux soft goods, It's like that's how
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  they can do. And as you said, well, they
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  said, you know, they've had this stuff tool for ages.
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  So there's no reason at all I can't get a knight with those.
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  Yeah, I saw someone posted a picture the other day of a black
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  Dark Templar, but with soft goods from one of the third
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  party soft goods, maybe Max Byrd.
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  It looks so good. I have to say I do hope we maybe
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  get a soft goods version of that in a future wave, because he's
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  saying maybe not a reinforcements wave, but yeah.
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  Well, we should probably it's worth saying because we might
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  have people who aren't so au fait with this is that the
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  builders, the reinforcements, the builders tend to be more
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  basic paint apps, quite a lot of reuse within the the wave, let's
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  call it a wave and that sort of thing, don't they?
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  Very basic. So yeah, although we did get
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  some new parts in the last one. Yeah, usually it's new parts
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  that they may have already tooled for example or something
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  like that. Now it wasn't the last.
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  Weren't the last ones, were they pre-orders?
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  No, the last ones were all in stock drops.
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  In stock, yeah. So maybe this won't be a
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  pre-order. Sorry, Rich.
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  I'm just going to say I'm presuming it's going to be in
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  stock, but that was one of my questions is that will it be
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  pre-order or in stock? But I'm guessing in stock.
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  Usually I'll pay for the reinforcement.
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  I think with the amount of stuff that's gone through production,
• 22:16
  I would be very surprised. I think it's probably a
• 22:18
  pre-order with the hope that it'll be out within the year,
• 22:22
  you know? But we know nothing, Johnson,
• 22:28
  you know? Yeah.
• 22:32
  And it also depends on the price they pitch them at.
• 22:34
  If they go for the 30 price point, could expect maybe a few
• 22:38
  more paint apps, things like that.
• 22:41
  If they try and keep them somewhere in the 20s, like
• 22:44
  probably won't because prices are going up on everything a
• 22:47
  little bit. So maybe 30 would be the same as
• 22:50
  what 26 used to be. So yeah, Yeah, I don't know.
• 22:55
  Yeah, another reason I was thinking why it might be in
• 22:57
  stock is obviously they did the RPG and that had builders in,
• 23:01
  didn't it? So do you want to do another
• 23:03
  pre-order for builders that close to having just done one
• 23:07
  sort of thing? Whereas if it's in hand, people
• 23:09
  get the FOMO and start diving on stuff going Oh yeah, yeah, I
• 23:11
  want it now because I can get it straight away.
• 23:14
  Yeah, it depends. Containers.
• 23:19
  Could be. I'll do my first one here then.
• 23:26
  It's not really a type of figure as such, but a figure with the
• 23:31
  new broader torso. So in a Legion builder, that
• 23:35
  kind of leather torso and plus all the cloth good parts with
• 23:41
  that and the leather boots, either the ones with the fur on
• 23:44
  the top or the classic leather boots that we get with the
• 23:47
  gladiators. So got a seat.
• 23:51
  Sorry. Yeah.
• 23:52
  So some sort of a character like that then you know, either
• 23:56
  generic head helmet with that call of the character type.
• 24:02
  I, I'd love it if we did. That would be my preference.
• 24:06
  But funnily enough, I've gone for I think as, and I mean I'll
• 24:11
  explain it more as I talk through mine, but I think this
• 24:14
  is going to be a wave where they get the evil, let's call it
• 24:18
  Herzog armour out a bit more and a bit early because we haven't
• 24:22
  got much of that yet. We haven't got much broader
• 24:27
  armour either, you know. No, it's true.
• 24:30
  As I say, I would absolutely love that.
• 24:33
  What do you think, Rich? Yeah, I, I, it's a tricky one.
• 24:37
  This is the most difficult sort of builders way prediction.
• 24:40
  I think I've done because we've had so much stuff recently.
• 24:43
  Yeah, yeah. I was like, Oh well, you know,
• 24:44
  they're probably going to do a 1.0 alpha.
• 24:46
  It's like, well hang on a minute, there was one in the RPG
• 24:48
  so it's not going to do that. And it's really tricky.
• 24:53
  I wouldn't be at all surprised to see an all cloth good, good
• 24:56
  figure. I think that would be a good
• 24:58
  move, right? Yeah, because it's always night
• 25:01
  heavy, always armour heavy, so it makes sense to do that.
• 25:04
  What colours would be interesting because again, we've
• 25:06
  had the full range of colours of stuff recently so.
• 25:11
  Yeah. Yeah, I I would say a fairly
• 25:15
  neutral colour, even the leathery colour.
• 25:18
  Would work, might get green. The glass one that you know was
• 25:22
  there was a lot of cool. Popular point.
• 25:24
  Yeah. Yeah, it's popular in the in the
• 25:26
  Armoury Knights. Yeah, but not the same as the
• 25:29
  Armoury Knight one. Ideally that was.
• 25:32
  No, there might be more muted, might be more muted, but again,
• 25:36
  I never know if that one was popular because it was rare or
• 25:39
  popular because people love the green.
• 25:41
  Yeah, it's. True.
• 25:43
  You know, I remember when they teased that we weren't overly
• 25:48
  excited about it because it had the really weird green helmet on
• 25:55
  it that didn't match the green of the of the torso.
• 25:59
  Yeah, So right. Rich, what's your first
• 26:03
  suggestion here then? I'm thinking a 2.0 goblin build
• 26:07
  of some sort. I know we've got the Ashes 1
• 26:10
  coming soon, but I also think the horsemen know that the Ashes
• 26:13
  wave was hugely under ordered. There was so much, you know,
• 26:18
  angst around that wave. Anyway, I think a lot of people
• 26:20
  wouldn't have ordered it. So I think we'll we'll get a
• 26:24
  Goblin 2.0 of some sort, right. I'd like to get into more
• 26:30
  details, but I don't know the parts as well as you guys and
• 26:32
  this was very much a rush job for me, no.
• 26:34
  No, no. You mean.
• 26:35
  You mean so not a, not a on a 2.0 body you mean.
• 26:39
  That's a yes. Sorry, yeah.
• 26:41
  OK, so 10 goblin. Yes.
• 26:44
  Have we got thin, thin arms? We have yeah.
• 26:46
  Yeah, with the his guitar on that.
• 26:48
  So they could do that sort of thing.
• 26:49
  That would be a. Funnily enough I I am Denard
• 26:52
  over putting that in but didn't in the end again because I've
• 26:55
  gone with more armoured characters.
• 26:57
  Yeah, if we could get another hooded head goblin like Snag but
• 27:03
  in a different colour and maybe redo of the head.
• 27:05
  Would be good when they obtain that.
• 27:07
  Yeah, or redo of the snag head be fine.
• 27:09
  Linked to it, One thing I put down here is whether we'd get a
• 27:12
  fuzz mug builder, because we've had a first month for ages.
• 27:17
  Obviously they've got the head, they could just paint it a
• 27:19
  different colour. Yeah.
• 27:20
  You could use the the sort of cloth style style stuff or the
• 27:23
  armour stuff for it, yeah. I'd be very.
• 27:27
  I think I'd prefer if they're not in the armour more, more
• 27:31
  organic. Yeah, because it's very much
• 27:34
  feels like a a flock figure, doesn't it?
• 27:37
  A character the the first monk. So good.
• 27:39
  Point man, we should get it flocked, Yeah.
• 27:43
  That would actually be really cool.
• 27:48
  I'd say that wouldn't be legion builder price.
• 27:50
  No. Although they had the silver
• 27:52
  horns entries last time, didn't they?
• 27:53
  And that was a bit more so maybe.
• 27:55
  Brian Fighters is going for Legion builder price on the
• 27:58
  secondary market these days so. He should be.
• 28:00
  He should be giving away free. Send them my way I'm.
• 28:05
  With you, John, I like Flock stuff.
• 28:08
  I love a gimmick, yeah. Translucent.
• 28:13
  Translucent. Parts.
• 28:15
  Yeah, yeah, ideal. Mal, do you want to say you've
• 28:22
  said about the Herzog armour but continue there for.
• 28:24
  Yeah, yeah. So, so I think we'll get a
• 28:26
  dwarf. I think it'll use the new dwarf
• 28:30
  boots and gloves. So yeah, so the new slightly
• 28:35
  more ornate looking, but then we'll be mixed with more
• 28:39
  traditional org stuff because there was kind of a suggestion
• 28:42
  that's what they would have liked to have done for who Did
• 28:48
  we get 2.0 off? No, Valgard.
• 28:53
  Valgard. Oh yeah.
• 28:54
  There was a, Jeremy did sort of suggest if they'd had those
• 28:57
  parts, they might have thought about doing that for him.
• 29:00
  So I wonder if they'll try and put something out that's a bit
• 29:02
  of a similar build to what they would have, you know, maybe done
• 29:05
  for him. And I think.
• 29:08
  Was that not the RPG dwarf though with the with the big
• 29:11
  torso and. Better cloth legs again didn't
• 29:17
  it? Whereas I'm talking about
• 29:18
  armour. Don't think they'll give him
• 29:19
  full armour but with the new bits.
• 29:22
  The new armour bits. Yeah, yeah, and your lovely.
• 29:26
  Without wanting to upset Mr House Seal, but have we not had
• 29:29
  a lot of dwarfs recently? There's never enough dwarfs
• 29:32
  because I had. The same thought I was thinking
• 29:33
  dwarf and it's like, but we've had a lot of dwarfs.
• 29:35
  We haven't really. We've had three.
• 29:38
  That's a lot I. Mean.
• 29:40
  To be fair, quite loud and boisterous.
• 29:42
  There's quite a lot of dwarfs. Yeah.
• 29:45
  But yeah, I suppose there are in the RPG.
• 29:47
  There's 2-3 potentially, isn't there?
• 29:49
  If you count Boria and Varg 2.0, yeah, yeah, maybe, yeah.
• 30:02
  Right. I mean, I'll just follow up with
• 30:05
  the dwarf. I said the dwarf as well, new
• 30:06
  parts, especially the torso. So because on the RPG we got the
• 30:12
  boots and stuff. Yeah.
• 30:13
  So I think especially the torso and those are the cuff pieces.
• 30:18
  Yeah, right. So you you are sort of getting
• 30:20
  more of the leather and cloth build Fair.
• 30:24
  Yeah, that's why I'd love that. That's going to cost me money if
• 30:27
  they do. Rich.
• 30:33
  I put down and then change your mind, but I haven't got rid of
• 30:37
  it from the list. A female might of some sort.
• 30:40
  OK. However, then it dawned on me
• 30:43
  that obviously they're tooling up the Delphina 2.
• 30:46
  It might be a bit too early for a female knight.
• 30:49
  Yeah, that was kind of why. Unless they unless they do a
• 30:51
  torso with breasts at 1.0 scale and have a female knight like
• 30:55
  that. Which you know, they don't
• 30:58
  normally do new bits for these waves, but we could do that.
• 31:03
  Yeah. Do we think they could have, you
• 31:09
  know, like cloth parts, like a bit like the RPG Knight in
• 31:13
  female? Maybe they're tuning them at the
• 31:15
  same time? Well, the other one is something
• 31:19
  likes what I was going to say Siri grain, which is not Siri
• 31:24
  grain, but we get in the grain grain, but we're getting her,
• 31:27
  we're getting that building the. Yeah.
• 31:30
  Only that's the problem with that one.
• 31:35
  I think I get a 1.0 female legion builder so you know the
• 31:43
  Navy builders but in a more well basic look.
• 31:47
  Maybe more armour? I don't know.
• 31:50
  I haven't checked because I haven't taken it apparent yet,
• 31:53
  but does the female legion builder or dwarf torso go on a
• 31:59
  bigger figure? It's the same, does it work?
• 32:02
  It's the same size. I'm sure Anthony no, he did it
• 32:04
  the other way around, didn't he? But well, I've said 1.0 female
• 32:08
  look mixing parts from Nevada and the Herzog.
• 32:13
  So, but so we'll have skin bits, but skin bits but green, you
• 32:23
  know, or greens. That's my, that was one of my
• 32:25
  little left field. I think they'll do this because
• 32:29
  I've also then said also a little left field will get a
• 32:32
  female dwarf again using the new dwarf parts and FA parts
• 32:38
  combined. So.
• 32:41
  Nice. Any any steer on that Ridge, do
• 32:47
  you think? I quite like the idea of a
• 32:49
  female orc, I have to admit, but I don't know how well they sell.
• 32:55
  So we're not here for that. This is true I think.
• 32:58
  I think maybe if they made it a fury female fury orc that might
• 33:01
  sell more. We haven't had one of them, have
• 33:04
  we? We haven't, no.
• 33:06
  OK, chalk that. One point a build because you're
• 33:08
  a bit more, you know, aggressive.
• 33:10
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, And then you've got some
• 33:12
  red parts as well. I know we've got the stuff in
• 33:14
  the armoury, but you've got a few more of it legs.
• 33:17
  Yeah, I would have said in a new Fury York with the Erzic parts
• 33:22
  until we saw the Fury York coming in the armoury pre-order
• 33:27
  now. So that's gone off the table for
• 33:30
  me and I think a Vampire Knight 2.0 so version 2 with the
• 33:39
  desperter parts. OK, that that would be.
• 33:44
  If I suddenly pass out, just you know.
• 33:47
  Funnily enough I put a vampire in as well.
• 33:51
  I thought the Erza car mix of the Erza Carm and Valiant Night
• 33:54
  armour painted black. You know, given that shiny
• 33:57
  black. No, I think it should be.
• 33:59
  I think it should be. I think you're.
• 34:02
  Well, they did. They did, you know the second
• 34:04
  Silver Horn sentry, didn't they? Or, you know, just another
• 34:07
  version of that. So yeah.
• 34:09
  But the cloud goods in in black, and then the leather boots in a
• 34:13
  kind of glossy, glossy black leather.
• 34:16
  Yeah, yeah, that would be that. I really like the sound of that.
• 34:21
  Yeah, yeah, my water is ageing towards the door at the moment.
• 34:29
  So if you want to sell a case of them.
• 34:34
  I will say it might be very close to a female build I was
• 34:36
  going to do but that is to come. I'm so slow at anything.
• 34:43
  When I struggled with what I think we're going to get this
• 34:46
  character type is skeleton. So skeleton legion builder 3
• 34:50
  almost, you know, but we've also had the the skeleton fighter in
• 34:54
  the in the game. What can they do with a skeleton
• 34:58
  when you think it's going to make it lead in buildry and
• 35:00
  interesting? You see, I kind of think it's
• 35:02
  going to look a bit like the RPG because I've said mix of bone
• 35:05
  parts and I was like a hammer. I wonder if we'll get the
• 35:08
  skeleton Raid ahead again. Yeah.
• 35:13
  Like I love my skellies by sorry Brett, I hope we don't get
• 35:16
  another one this soon unless it is radically different to the
• 35:19
  ones we've had. That's the problem, isn't it?
• 35:21
  Yeah, like I can think of a number of different cool
• 35:24
  skeletons you could make with a combination of armour and
• 35:27
  another pieces and the skeleton parts.
• 35:30
  But I think we've had the ultimate, you know, kind of
• 35:33
  fully skeleton skeleton. Oh yeah, yeah, Between the
• 35:37
  legion builder too, and the skeleton Raider, you know, so
• 35:43
  maybe I'm an imaginative Brett. Let us know right in.
• 35:47
  Tell us what you think. Skeleton Legion builder, the
• 35:49
  next one should be. And maybe you're just happy with
• 35:54
  an updated, you know, skeleton legion builder with a few
• 35:59
  different armour parts to put on or maybe even a different bone
• 36:02
  colour. I don't know.
• 36:03
  Would that work? Don't suggest that they go red
• 36:07
  for more Calabian throwing things at the wall like oh come
• 36:12
  on. I would laugh.
• 36:15
  Yeah, well I know in the spirit of Legion builders, I mean they
• 36:18
  do, they definitely do more paint UPS than they used to.
• 36:21
  So won't be 1 flat paint, there could be a wash, but a real like
• 36:27
  a white Bony skeleton, but more decayed, you know, more, more
• 36:37
  maybe even with like kind of green bits on it, you know, with
• 36:42
  paint now enough luck. I mean, you know, but where the
• 36:46
  bones are going kind of bunch of different colours, but just
• 36:49
  there's still the white kind of bone weathered shows through.
• 36:54
  So. But again, I think that's
• 36:56
  probably beyond the Legion builder wave.
• 37:00
  Yeah, that's, that's a good plan.
• 37:01
  I think that'd look really good. But trying to keep that within
• 37:03
  the price bracket I guess could probably be tricky.
• 37:06
  Or maybe a deluxe, you know, leading.
• 37:09
  Yeah. Yeah, a lot of work.
• 37:10
  And the deluxe part would be the paint because I think they could
• 37:13
  do that. Nelson, your list, their mouth.
• 37:18
  An orc, a male orc. I think maybe we'll get we could
• 37:22
  get an updated version of our coup, basically.
• 37:25
  So because it's been a while since we've had a I know we've
• 37:29
  got a green body in the armoury, but it's and not the armoury,
• 37:33
  the gladiators. Yeah, gladiator armoury, but
• 37:35
  it's not really straight up orc, is it?
• 37:38
  So I wonder if we'll get an all green with again, bits of Herzog
• 37:44
  armour, but kind of styled like like who was so perhaps a quite
• 37:49
  a bright silver metallic look with, you know, almost barbarian
• 37:53
  orc, I guess. Again, with the RPG, not so
• 37:58
  sure. Possible.
• 38:00
  Yeah, that's a good point. And the thing isn't it I'm, I
• 38:03
  think This is why I find it quite difficult this time to do
• 38:05
  this. Is that because the RPGs come
• 38:07
  out? But obviously they've had to
• 38:09
  plan this. Yeah, even before the RPG almost
• 38:13
  sort of thing. So it's just, you know.
• 38:14
  If that's it, who knows when was this all planned out here,
• 38:19
  Right, Rich? I think we might get a Ninion
• 38:23
  builder. Right.
• 38:26
  A. Snake man.
• 38:27
  Yeah, they proved. So popular, yeah, yeah.
• 38:31
  And Ardent Scale sort of showed that you don't need to do the
• 38:35
  three different colours of scales, although it does look
• 38:38
  very cool, obviously. So if you want to eat the price
• 38:40
  down a bit, you could just just do the warm or, you know, 2
• 38:43
  maybe colours of that sort of thing you got.
• 38:45
  They got the heads, they got the cool armour pieces.
• 38:48
  You know, you can use different types of armour.
• 38:50
  You can use ears like the evil Ozark armour as a nasty snake
• 38:53
  dude sort of there. I had generic snake man down on
• 38:59
  my list. I did put a caveat they may wait
• 39:03
  like I'd love it so this is what I want but they may wait till
• 39:08
  they have the tail piece available.
• 39:12
  Yeah, well that's I guess that would push it to look straight
• 39:15
  away they wouldn't it with the tail piece.
• 39:19
  But they do do as they do do have they have had over in in in
• 39:30
  past by reinforcements waves. I'm just not sure they'll be,
• 39:37
  but maybe they will. What about werewolf legion
• 39:42
  builder please in the min Dodgy body If if it's a pre-order this
• 39:47
  could be possible. It's a pre-order that is
• 39:49
  absolutely, yeah. That'll be very cool.
• 39:52
  Well. That would mean a different
• 39:53
  head, that wouldn't it? You think about it, we've got
• 39:56
  some of those parts in the Mouse King and in them.
• 40:00
  Yeah. The Jersey Devil saying doesn't
• 40:03
  need a pre-order. Yeah, true.
• 40:07
  And maybe they, you know, once they're tooled and working, you
• 40:11
  know, didn't we get the valiant night with the with basically
• 40:14
  the underlying body of the Nick anomalous nights, wave nights
• 40:20
  long before we got them. So and.
• 40:21
  I guess we probably shouldn't rule out new headpieces either
• 40:25
  for the the builders, because obviously the RPG figures are
• 40:28
  $3030 and they most of them had new heads.
• 40:31
  Yeah. Again, part of the campaign.
• 40:34
  Maybe they're, I don't know, and that's their mouth.
• 40:42
  No, that's pretty much all I say. 7 figures for mine based on
• 40:46
  previous years. Anything else on your list for
• 40:50
  this? Was the couple so I had maybe
• 40:52
  like when I was struggling to think how they'd use the one
• 40:54
  point, you know, get a knight at 1.0 and light in there.
• 40:57
  I was thinking maybe like an elf or a shadow shadow elf.
• 41:01
  But again, we've had one in the RPG recently, but maybe a bit
• 41:04
  more armoured than that one to me, almost like a cross between
• 41:07
  the two of them potentially. Here's an option.
• 41:11
  And then the other one if we Speaking of ogre scale, an ogre
• 41:13
  scale minor sort. Now it need a new head
• 41:15
  obviously, but that would be or. Just a different paint job,
• 41:20
  maybe a different armour. I don't know right?
• 41:29
  My other wants or possible possibilities.
• 41:35
  Maybe a version two of the Silver Horn Century that'd.
• 41:40
  Be cool. I'm not so sure since we got.
• 41:44
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:47
  Yeah, or my last one, I was thinking of how could they?
• 41:52
  Well, no, second last one, how could they do like a valiant
• 41:58
  night type thing? Kind of, you know, this is a
• 42:01
  night that's kind of seen in different parts of the Kingdom.
• 42:05
  Maybe a night of the five pillars, like a dragon night
• 42:09
  dragon warrior. You know, it'd be cool.
• 42:13
  Yeah, yeah. So generic build for him maybe
• 42:18
  might need a new head or just use a helmet.
• 42:21
  And then in a future wave you do a more kind of general of this
• 42:26
  kind of thing where it's unhelmeted and has one of those
• 42:29
  kind of like dragon heads, smaller kind of dragon head.
• 42:36
  Be cool. And then they could do fun
• 42:38
  colour for him. I don't know what he'd be, but
• 42:41
  we could definitely do colour based on, you know, some of the
• 42:47
  dragon lore that we don't know yet, you know?
• 42:49
  Yeah, yeah. Pretty cool.
• 42:52
  And the last one for a friend. Jeremy, go VA Demon Legion
• 42:56
  builder. It's about time for that.
• 42:59
  That is possible, yeah. Yeah.
• 43:00
  You make a fairpoint there, yeah.
• 43:03
  Maybe a new head they have tooled, because otherwise you're
• 43:07
  going with the Azar. It's Azar's Azar head again,
• 43:11
  which unlikely after the armoury.
• 43:17
  Yeah, purple. There you go.
• 43:19
  Purple Demon Legion builder. There you go.
• 43:23
  Yeah, Might need a might need to tune a Wang from still the
• 43:30
  tribute right. I thought interesting at this
• 43:34
  point to to pop in kind of how it went last year from here on.
• 43:40
  We got in June, we got the infinite legions Glios drop in
• 43:48
  July. We got the iron smell pre-order
• 43:53
  Jersey Devil at the end of August and September's was the
• 43:56
  Legacies Ozone Auto Nurzak and then of CG Con in November.
• 44:03
  So right what we got next in MA? Oh, I haven't really put them in
• 44:11
  order. Should we do?
• 44:13
  Then you choose the order. Should we do, should we legacies
• 44:16
  next, then stick with mythics, but not go as far as G Con just
• 44:20
  yet? Yeah, yeah.
• 44:22
  So I keep flogging, flogging keep going on about this, hope
• 44:25
  we get it. And it's kind of, I've touched
• 44:28
  on it in Queen Irks 1.0 body, right?
• 44:34
  Desperate for a 1.0 female or because you can tell?
• 44:38
  You're not getting both the ideas, Malik.
• 44:40
  Oh, this is it. This is it I actually think.
• 44:42
  But this is once rich, not exact, not predictions.
• 44:45
  There should be, you know, although some of them have been
• 44:48
  kind of prediction. Hang on then, let me go back to
• 44:50
  the Legion builders. Sharp, this is my Legion
• 44:54
  builder. So yeah, I said Queen, do you
• 45:00
  want me to just get through the all of them, which we did, OK.
• 45:06
  I don't know if he's important enough, but I could see them
• 45:09
  wanting to revisit Carpathias. Just because it's do with an
• 45:15
  update anyway. Yeah, exactly.
• 45:16
  He's such a blame and figure even.
• 45:20
  Then he's we're at night build with basic enough paint and a
• 45:26
  vampire head stuck on him. He's.
• 45:27
  Basically a Legion builder, isn't he?
• 45:29
  Let's be honest at this point. And then I'd also like a Freya,
• 45:34
  although I don't think we'll get it because again, I don't think
• 45:36
  she's important enough. But a Freya and a 1.0 body I
• 45:39
  think would be awesome because that 1.0 body is made for a
• 45:43
  Valkyrie, isn't it? Let's be honest.
• 45:45
  So yeah, that's the three. I don't there's loads I could
• 45:49
  have said but those are the three probably top ones for now.
• 45:54
  Right, I think we get the two legacies again at some point
• 45:58
  like we got no they did also announce the legions gone
• 46:02
  exclusive legacies which was gaffed and Valgard last year.
• 46:07
  But I think we get a Balaam version 2 and a Morgulate
• 46:13
  version 2 important characters in the story.
• 46:17
  So that takes the box for legacies and Balaam is
• 46:23
  definitely do an update. They could use that RPG
• 46:26
  screaming head as well for him and a lot of clock goods because
• 46:32
  he's a Basilia guy, you know? So I mean the case allegiance
• 46:37
  gone, Johnny could have a flocked parts as the exclusive
• 46:40
  bits there. You won't see me at the table at
• 46:46
  the start of the amount. I'll go get the lamb.
• 46:51
  If anyone is interested in any of this crap I have here, just
• 46:53
  tell them to wait or sell it to them for half price.
• 46:57
  How much of your stuff we sold you only made this much money?
• 47:01
  There you go. Oh, I get another Balaam then.
• 47:06
  And I think Morgulitz for such an important character.
• 47:09
  She if you have her on the shelf with all the other children of
• 47:12
  Necronominus, yes, that's rich. Is fond of saying Malius could
• 47:16
  do with a redo. Couldn't.
• 47:20
  Those two, but. Especially Margaret, she's,
• 47:22
  she's lacking a bit I think a bit of paint on the armour,
• 47:26
  especially that headdress, so. Yeah, funnily enough, I did
• 47:30
  write her. Down and then.
• 47:32
  Removed just to add the other. One that I would put.
• 47:37
  I wondered if he's gone for every single figure.
• 47:41
  Now, Richard, No. Well, I did write.
• 47:43
  Down but then again removed because I did start off trying
• 47:46
  to do the verses thing but that's why I gave up.
• 47:50
  Gwendolyn Heavens brands probably do a a redo based on
• 47:54
  how good her dad looks these days.
• 47:57
  Brother. Dude a brother?
• 47:58
  Oh, is it a brother? She's I think.
• 48:00
  She's detailed enough to to still.
• 48:04
  Stayed there. I couldn't.
• 48:06
  I could never get mine to stand up, even with.
• 48:07
  The stands so I end up selling it out in fury I took.
• 48:12
  One too many other. Figures out and it's like you're
• 48:13
  gone. You're gone.
• 48:15
  I do think her armour is very nice.
• 48:17
  Which is again which is part of the reason I took her off.
• 48:19
  But again, the soft goods on the nights just brings them up a
• 48:23
  level. Again.
• 48:29
  People. She's hard to get these.
• 48:30
  Days but there was a stage where like a lot of the figures that
• 48:34
  are on the horseman website now she was on the website for weeks
• 48:38
  her Faustia and Thailand Frostbow so long in fact that I
• 48:43
  bought some that I thought I was going to make customs for and
• 48:46
  just sold them a couple of months later right Rich why like
• 48:55
  you I think we'll have. Two lots of two in terms of
• 48:57
  legacies, I think we'll. Finally get the version.
• 49:01
  Twos of ethron and zylona. I think we'll, you know, they,
• 49:06
  they dropped the. Hint about the great beasts the
• 49:08
  other week, didn't they? So I think we're definitely
• 49:09
  going to get those two be. Really interesting to see what
• 49:13
  they do with the bird. Build because the, the, you
• 49:16
  know, the original birds looked great, but you know, trying to
• 49:18
  get them to stand up is another matter entirely.
• 49:21
  And then obviously Zylona with her battle analyst just pulled
• 49:24
  back ready to to motor through. The enemy that will be that'll
• 49:31
  be such a day when when we get the battle Antlers Solona, That
• 49:34
  would be really amazing. If we get battle analysts, I
• 49:39
  may. Struggle to get through a door.
• 49:40
  My head will be so big. It'll just be like, yeah, isn't
• 49:44
  that? Usual anyway.
• 49:46
  Yeah, it is, to be honest. And then the.
• 49:51
  Other one I think. I think.
• 49:52
  They'll stick to the versus format.
• 49:55
  So like Mal, I think we'll get a cup Atheist.
• 49:59
  He's by far and away the. Poorest of the Vampire.
• 50:01
  Figures. So it definitely needs an
• 50:02
  update. So you need somebody from the
• 50:04
  flock. So I think we might get in a
• 50:06
  stereo, maybe a brute scale Hysterium.
• 50:08
  Yeah, he would be great, yeah. I love that.
• 50:15
  Yeah, yeah, definitely Hysterium.
• 50:18
  It's one of the. He's one of the best looking
• 50:20
  figures, older figures in the in the.
• 50:22
  He's great, yeah. Yeah.
• 50:26
  Right. Shall we quickly?
• 50:28
  Talk about G con then, and then we can get on to cosmic.
• 50:33
  G Con. I had thought maybe Zylon and
• 50:36
  Ethron would actually turn up in G Con.
• 50:39
  Yeah, they're with you on that one.
• 50:41
  Yeah. And the kind of overall theme.
• 50:46
  Of it I found it very they. Could go so many ways to
• 50:48
  continue with what they're doing now, but I'm going to go with
• 50:54
  Helios and Celine that that's what they're going to and that's
• 50:59
  what I'd like to see, to be honest.
• 51:01
  They're going to go with them then Salone and ether on.
• 51:04
  So a whole kind of old new, you know, because there's two ways
• 51:11
  of dunes alone and ether on. They could either do them as an
• 51:14
  in stock legacies a bit like or Zach Anoto to kind of time with
• 51:21
  the time of when leaders and Basilia are going to arrive.
• 51:26
  You know, then you have all four kind of probably available
• 51:30
  around the same time, or you do them in AG Conway and then
• 51:34
  people have to wait. But maybe then you know that's
• 51:39
  going to be a. Mega wave and then.
• 51:40
  Helios and Selena, I think we will.
• 51:43
  We will eventually get figures of them.
• 51:45
  So it's just a question of when and because I can't think of
• 51:49
  other than they could continue the story and then I don't know
• 51:51
  what we get, you know, So if I'm going to if I'm going to, I
• 51:56
  can't really make up Canon. So if I'm going to go with what
• 51:58
  I know, I think that. And then how do you fill that
• 52:01
  out? I don't know.
• 52:03
  Maybe more as the dragon is kind of come in and to build hope for
• 52:08
  that more dragon faction related characters, different types.
• 52:13
  You know, I can't, I wouldn't be sure exactly what type, but more
• 52:20
  in general there. But I'd love all that stuff, you
• 52:23
  know, Somal. You're with me with Salon and.
• 52:27
  Yeah, I am, but then it doesn't. Really fit with what I think
• 52:30
  we'll get for the rest of it. I'm not sure how you'd fit them
• 52:32
  in because I think we will get sort of progressing the story,
• 52:36
  but well, I kind of think we'll. Get a similar thing to.
• 52:40
  What we got last year of a mix, you know, still a couple from
• 52:45
  which is why I think I thought was a loner, but how they fit
• 52:47
  there I don't know. But then so I think I think
• 52:51
  they'll actually get a shark man next year.
• 52:54
  I think rich will be a little mushy pile on the floor and I
• 52:58
  think I think it'll actually be ogre scale shark man as well.
• 53:02
  So. Oh, that'd be cool.
• 53:03
  Yeah, I've just. Come up with a way of getting
• 53:08
  all. All the different ones in so you
• 53:10
  could do eras of mythos so way in the past.
• 53:14
  Helios and Celine. Salon and Ether on is the kind
• 53:17
  of next era, then maybe something around the Aratheer
• 53:23
  kind of time and then you got the ashes of egg Bendor timeline
• 53:29
  and then the dragon timeline. Yeah, maybe.
• 53:31
  And maybe even some of the domes of discovery time then maybe.
• 53:37
  And yeah, because the other thing I think is we'll get more
• 53:41
  lizard men, but I think they'll be, we'll get different head
• 53:44
  sculpts, you know, where they'll start to be something else
• 53:47
  perhaps besides what we've got so far.
• 53:51
  But yeah, that's pretty much all of it.
• 53:53
  Because then it's like, who knows, maybe more Asian but not
• 53:56
  Asian Eastern inspired characters.
• 53:59
  Again, I don't know. Yeah, sorry.
• 54:02
  John Malley is now my favourite Co host.
• 54:04
  He said Elizabeth and Jacqueman. It's just like, no problem my
• 54:08
  friend. I still like it.
• 54:12
  Even with all your IT problems. This is the new laptop as well.
• 54:18
  It's just like, Oh my. God, new laptop and This is why.
• 54:21
  Rich is sitting in a different location because we've been 25
• 54:25
  minutes trying to get this started.
• 54:28
  This is why I'm putting on my bed.
• 54:30
  So, yeah, right. Rich G Con for you.
• 54:36
  Lizard man, I think we've. Got all the parts for me, just
• 54:38
  need heads. So I think 1, ideally a couple
• 54:42
  of different types, certainly one type of lizard.
• 54:45
  Men. I'd love something like
• 54:46
  Warhammer esque. I'm not sure if they want to go
• 54:49
  quite that on the nose or not, but then it would tie in with
• 54:51
  the I mean the snake men are all yeah, it's very similar aren't
• 54:55
  they? Very close.
• 54:56
  Yeah, yeah. So you know.
• 54:59
  You could have, yeah, the lizard men.
• 55:00
  On the, you know, the other continent that they go to sort
• 55:03
  of thing, they get there. There are the lizard men,
• 55:06
  definitely shark man. I'm not sure we go ogre scale I
• 55:10
  think. Maybe a brute?
• 55:10
  Scale. So maybe like use the walrus
• 55:14
  dude's? Body.
• 55:15
  Yeah, he's got this name already.
• 55:17
  Obon Oben Mobile No. Maybe it was the ray.
• 55:21
  Yeah. Oh, is he?
• 55:23
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe his scale just to be a
• 55:27
  big. I'm not sure if I if.
• 55:30
  I'm thinking that's likely. Or I'm thinking that head idea I
• 55:33
  had the other day that I showed you guys would work really well
• 55:35
  on a brute scale shark. So I think just get a feeling we
• 55:42
  are getting a shark. I think we will.
• 55:44
  Yeah, I think we will. Even if because you.
• 55:45
  Could do, you could do it as a seafarer or something, or you
• 55:48
  could do it as a bit of a, A twist and he's a good guy shark
• 55:51
  sort of thing that's helping the fisherman league or whatever.
• 55:54
  Yeah. I think we'll get some more
• 55:57
  seafarers. I think they.
• 55:58
  Will carry on from where they were so I you know I'd.
• 56:02
  Quite like to see maybe? Some evil races that we know in
• 56:04
  the Seafarers, so you can maybe have a vampire.
• 56:07
  How we'd manage on the open seas, I don't know, but they
• 56:09
  could work around that somehow or shadow wealth or something
• 56:12
  like that. That was one of the thing, isn't
• 56:14
  it, We? Still don't really know who
• 56:18
  these characters that have captured what's his name from
• 56:24
  the horror of Einsomal. Oh, we don't actually know who.
• 56:27
  Who? Carry a Lithia iconography.
• 56:30
  Or we don't know who they are, do we?
• 56:33
  Could be vampires. That would be awesome.
• 56:36
  I'd take that in half. Pirate vampires, yeah.
• 56:39
  Or you could even have like a skeletal.
• 56:41
  Seafarer. Yeah, you know, if you want
• 56:44
  proper evil. Sort of thing.
• 56:45
  You know nothing. Nothing like a skeletal pirate.
• 56:48
  Yeah, because there is so much. Story from both of those things,
• 56:52
  the horror of and smell and the dawns of discovery to continue.
• 56:57
  So yes, for me it'll be if they continue that we can be sure
• 57:02
  that those type character types have sold really well.
• 57:07
  But if we go back to kind of more traditionally what they've
• 57:10
  had in mythics, then maybe they might be going right.
• 57:14
  They didn't really sell as much as we thought.
• 57:16
  So maybe to this Yeah, you. Could see them.
• 57:19
  All bombs combining. They couldn't you so.
• 57:21
  They, as you said, John, the Dawn, like the Dawn Discovery
• 57:24
  ship will arrive at port and then there's this other huge
• 57:28
  black sail or red sail, wherever it was, ship that just comes,
• 57:31
  yeah, comes in into port at the same time, sort of thing.
• 57:35
  And, you know, they're seen unloading this giant werewolf
• 57:37
  and that and you, you cross it over there a bit sort of thing
• 57:40
  and link the two together. Yep.
• 57:43
  I want something. With tentacles now.
• 57:46
  I'm not going to say square. Abroad whatsoever.
• 57:48
  I just want to settle a pod of some sort almost.
• 57:52
  For the hands. And like arms and feet as much
• 57:54
  as anything else, I'll take it in cosmic, I'll be honest.
• 57:57
  And that is on my cosmic list wish list as well.
• 57:59
  But I just need tentacles. A wise old Fishman.
• 58:05
  Of some sort I think would be a cool character if they carried
• 58:08
  on that story. Something like an angle of fish.
• 58:10
  Or something like that little dangly thing.
• 58:12
  I think that'd be that'd be pretty cool.
• 58:15
  And then? Sadly, moving away from the
• 58:17
  fishy. Type ideas?
• 58:19
  I'd quite like to see some sort of like beast man type thing.
• 58:22
  So like almost like a Warhammer sort of style beast man.
• 58:25
  So they could be like populating the continent that they're going
• 58:28
  to sort of thing. I think there's lots of scope
• 58:31
  there to do some really cool head sculpts and head designs
• 58:34
  and that sort of thing. So, yeah, that's sort of stuff I
• 58:37
  would like to see AG Con Yeah, I think that would be a.
• 58:40
  Continuation and also cool, you know I'd definitely be down for
• 58:45
  that, right? Cosmic, then, is what I have
• 58:51
  left. Anyone event now so than cosmic
• 58:53
  we don't need figura guesses or oh.
• 58:55
  Yeah, I have a figure I guess as.
• 58:57
  Well, or want more than I guess. And should we do the figura
• 59:02
  first before cosmic then? Yeah, we said cosmic at the
• 59:04
  last. And.
• 59:07
  I went with the Red Riding Hood and the Wolf as as my guess for
• 59:14
  the like the Jersey Devil slot from this year, so the kind of
• 59:17
  autumn slot. I went for the same thing, John.
• 59:23
  I think you talked. About it so much.
• 59:24
  It's now got into my head as well, like a new one, but I
• 59:27
  think it'd be great. Yeah.
• 59:28
  I put red writing and Kevin Boots is is.
• 59:31
  Is the one I think to put it initially into my head so we're
• 59:36
  just gone in a circle here. But I think it would be such a
• 59:39
  great little 2 pack. And I think the wolf could be
• 59:43
  the the 3.0 body, the Windaji and comes with the soft goods
• 59:49
  cloak. So you can do the the hooded
• 59:52
  wolf kind of look. And obviously Red Riding Hood.
• 59:56
  I mean, you've got, you know, the druid from the RPG wave.
• 1:00:02
  You know, that type of a build with the red cloak obviously.
• 1:00:06
  And you know, various other parts would be awesome.
• 1:00:10
  I would insist that the wolf has some sort of granny.
• 1:00:12
  Wig, though, they can put on as well, like you get in the
• 1:00:14
  cartoon version. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Yeah, yeah. Right now I didn't put figure.
• 1:00:25
  About I more likely to get encrypted of some sort in that
• 1:00:29
  in that autumn slot again I think yeah based on the the wolf
• 1:00:34
  is OK he's. Not encrypted, but he's a
• 1:00:37
  creature. It's possible.
• 1:00:40
  It's possible. I mean, it is a horrory kind of
• 1:00:43
  vibe to it. So yeah, for sure it is.
• 1:00:45
  Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think we might get an earlier
• 1:00:50
  Pigura, I think when they might sneak one in at some point
• 1:00:53
  across the summer. So my want, I'm not sure how
• 1:00:56
  likely it would be a pigsie. So continue.
• 1:00:59
  Oh yeah, suddenly theme. And then Christmas will be
• 1:01:04
  Christmas will be the ghost of Christmas present because space,
• 1:01:07
  the health people think about will just implode if it isn't.
• 1:01:10
  So how wondered if we'd get The Nutcracker?
• 1:01:13
  This year, but just one of those same.
• 1:01:17
  People, I would love it, but. One of those two properties.
• 1:01:20
  Definitely. If they totally can't, go and
• 1:01:24
  get another. When they've set those two up, I
• 1:01:28
  do think that. You might be like, I wonder with
• 1:01:31
  the tough, you know, whether they wanted to get another Gods
• 1:01:34
  of Ancient Egypt out, but also had an idea for this slot that
• 1:01:38
  they would normally have one in and, you know, around this time,
• 1:01:41
  like, you know, sometimes it's been May, sometimes it's been
• 1:01:46
  mid early to mid June. So, but they also did say the
• 1:01:52
  last G con to expect the unexpected when it comes to
• 1:01:54
  figure obscure and they were referring to the figures, but
• 1:01:58
  also which I think we always expect the unexpected, but also
• 1:02:01
  the way that they drop. Now, whether they were just
• 1:02:05
  talking about the tough thing that we hadn't, that we didn't
• 1:02:07
  know about yet at that point, or whether this is going to be, you
• 1:02:11
  know, the way it goes in the future, I don't know.
• 1:02:15
  So. Could be anything.
• 1:02:19
  Right, cosmic legions. We're pretty sure, and they have
• 1:02:22
  heavily hinted that we're getting another wave this year.
• 1:02:26
  So Mal, as you are resident Cosmic Legions expert, well,
• 1:02:31
  maybe you can. Yeah, click reigns for the
• 1:02:34
  start. Well, I'm assuming it will be Ox
• 1:02:36
  crew book. Three, it'd be nice to finish
• 1:02:39
  that off, I interject Mal at this point.
• 1:02:42
  I think it will be too, but Jeremy did say on his show
• 1:02:44
  through the week that that the cosmic wave this year won't be
• 1:02:49
  what people are expecting. OK, so.
• 1:02:52
  I'm. I'm hoping that means.
• 1:02:53
  It's just going to be weird and wonderful creatures in the
• 1:02:56
  Oxbury book three thing. So and that's what I've gone
• 1:02:58
  forward. But he did say that, just like
• 1:03:02
  maybe I should. Maybe I blanked it.
• 1:03:04
  Out don't get me now one. Wave 3.
• 1:03:11
  OK well this might be out of the window then, but all my guess is
• 1:03:16
  the Ox crew one as well dude. So don't worry, I think it will.
• 1:03:19
  But I've said. We'll get the last two.
• 1:03:22
  Crew members. I think one of which will be
• 1:03:25
  another raw vast scale character because I think that was very
• 1:03:28
  popular, although of course they've probably designed them
• 1:03:31
  before that and another. Velux beer to use that.
• 1:03:35
  Armour again, hit that scale and that size are not armour.
• 1:03:39
  Pursuit, outfit, whatever. Said it before, but I stick with
• 1:03:44
  it. I get the feeling that Warlord
• 1:03:45
  is going to be slog and another slog because it just gives Jabba
• 1:03:51
  the Hutt vibes, doesn't it? The way it's talked about so.
• 1:03:55
  And that'd be awesome. And then I'm sure there was a.
• 1:03:59
  Mention of the. Tusk picking up the signal of
• 1:04:03
  Sarah wonder if we'll get some more Tusk character you know the
• 1:04:06
  sort of army builder kind of Tusk characters because they're
• 1:04:09
  so popular or they seem to be one of the more popular things
• 1:04:13
  in in cosmic so and that's all I've got really there's that's.
• 1:04:22
  Rich like Mal. I think they'll use a slog body
• 1:04:25
  for. The The Wasteland Warlord, It's
• 1:04:28
  it's it's a perfect fit for it. You know, they need to use their
• 1:04:30
  body again anyway. And it, you know, Chuck a new
• 1:04:32
  head on, maybe some new hands and feet.
• 1:04:35
  You got some weird abomination there.
• 1:04:37
  Yeah. I think we'll get the last two
• 1:04:39
  crew members. I think one of them's going to
• 1:04:42
  be like a really thin alien. So not, not a grey, but that
• 1:04:45
  sort of thin build. So initially I was thinking, oh,
• 1:04:48
  they'll do a thinner version of the big suits.
• 1:04:50
  And it's like, yeah, they're not going to probably not going to
• 1:04:53
  tool up another suit. So they maybe, maybe lose the
• 1:04:56
  Gloria. To as it's that little bit
• 1:04:59
  smaller. Sort of thing.
• 1:05:00
  But yeah, like a really properly thin headed alien maybe with
• 1:05:04
  spindly fingers or something like that.
• 1:05:06
  I think that'd be one of the characters I think, I think I
• 1:05:09
  put down it's a communications person and then I'm thinking
• 1:05:13
  multi head. So especially with Jeremy saying
• 1:05:15
  they're going to go away, people don't think, I think the other
• 1:05:18
  crew member will have a two, maybe 3 heads.
• 1:05:20
  So they can have some sort of neck piece that has the
• 1:05:22
  different heads coming out and that sort of thing.
• 1:05:24
  Just to really make it more alien because that the cosmic is
• 1:05:27
  a great line. But that's the one thing they
• 1:05:29
  need to do is they need to go more alien, which seems a weird
• 1:05:32
  thing to say, but I think the time's.
• 1:05:34
  Arrived for that. I'm expecting another skate.
• 1:05:38
  Back of some sort. Maybe a fierce.
• 1:05:41
  One again, but. Different, you know, not the
• 1:05:43
  same as the original skate back. Maybe, you know, a mouthful of
• 1:05:46
  big, big teeth or something like really an ominous sort of growl
• 1:05:50
  or something like that. If we are going like really
• 1:05:55
  outlandish. Like Jeremy said, you know,
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  prepared to be, you know, surprised or whatever sort of
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  thing. Then I was thinking maybe like
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  either something with multiple limbs, so they've not really
• 1:06:04
  done that where they've got like 6 arms or something like that.
• 1:06:08
  It's like I see them doing that or like really flexible limbs.
• 1:06:11
  So, you know, with the tails where they've got the bendy what
• 1:06:14
  but that, but with the arms, so a bit more like, you know, the
• 1:06:17
  motu squeeze or every he's called a sort of long bendy
• 1:06:22
  limbs as something a bit different sort of thing.
• 1:06:27
  I've. Said before I want an alien
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  just. With lots of sharp teeth, it can
• 1:06:30
  be any of those, or maybe a little alien.
• 1:06:32
  I'd really love a tiny alien with razor sharp teeth and
• 1:06:35
  really ferocious. And obviously we've got the imp
• 1:06:38
  scale stuff now, so they know how that works, even if it was
• 1:06:41
  new parts for Cosmic. And then presuming we don't get
• 1:06:44
  it in mythics, something with tentacles.
• 1:06:46
  We need tentacles. Call to arms.
• 1:06:53
  Tentacle arms. More than two arms.
• 1:06:58
  Yeah, so the the site, the second.
• 1:07:00
  Characters of the good that they have mentioned from the crew is
• 1:07:04
  the science officer. So the communications officer is
• 1:07:07
  the other one. He's the one.
• 1:07:08
  He or she is the one writing the logs.
• 1:07:11
  But the science officer is named as Tyra.
• 1:07:14
  Ty Ty R no trya, trya. Sorry.
• 1:07:19
  THRAYA be 3 heads. So oh, three girls thrown out
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  there. Three arms.
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  I I. Do think 3 arms sounds.
• 1:07:31
  Female name, doesn't it? Yeah, I do think that the
• 1:07:34
  community. It would be awesome for the
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  communications officer to be a little alien dude, you know,
• 1:07:40
  like you see on those ships. The little alien guy is the one
• 1:07:44
  doing all the tech stuff, you know, and able to get into the
• 1:07:48
  tiny little spaces. So it would be cool for him and
• 1:07:53
  then two ways of doing. Them, obviously.
• 1:07:56
  Either you do them on a small build or you somehow have him in
• 1:08:01
  the suit, but like, his whole body is the head or something
• 1:08:04
  like this, you know, sitting in the driver's seat doesn't.
• 1:08:08
  Yeah. So almost like it's a mech, you
• 1:08:10
  know? That would be cool, you know, I
• 1:08:14
  mean, bit overkill, but if they did that with the slog buddy,
• 1:08:18
  the little aliens. Actually one. .0 slides 80
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  inside. In the middle of the slog thing.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah, yeah. And indeed so in terms.
• 1:08:28
  Of that is the. Obvious thing, the Ox Crew 3.
• 1:08:31
  And I think if we get Ox Crew three, I just agree with all the
• 1:08:35
  stuff you're saying. It should be along those lines.
• 1:08:38
  And I hope we get weird stuff, you know, outside of what we get
• 1:08:43
  with the odd familiar thing as well.
• 1:08:45
  Of course, that makes sense. The other.
• 1:08:49
  The other. Type of cosmic.
• 1:08:50
  Wave that's done is an outpost wave.
• 1:08:54
  That is possible, but then if you know, is that what?
• 1:08:58
  People might be thinking. Maybe as well so don't know but
• 1:09:04
  an outpost wave then you could be any any type of characters.
• 1:09:06
  Exactly. That's the good.
• 1:09:08
  Thing, yeah, you can go crazy. Couldn't.
• 1:09:09
  You're the outpost way if I bring up here.
• 1:09:13
  These are the cosmic legions affiliations, so there is 4 that
• 1:09:18
  are haven't even been revealed yet.
• 1:09:21
  So that's something to think about.
• 1:09:25
  You got so the ox crew here is kind of what we have the good
• 1:09:31
  guys kind of from the current thread of the story.
• 1:09:35
  And they also appear in this XR 3 because they're that's they're
• 1:09:41
  part of that company that you know is doing this.
• 1:09:44
  And Callie and Shawn is the other person that's in there who
• 1:09:48
  is also looking for them. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:53
  Escape haven is the bad guys basically from this wave or you
• 1:09:58
  know is Bundy nature are they they didn't sound like bad guys
• 1:10:03
  did they they're. Obviously part of yeah, but
• 1:10:05
  they're the non team members. From this wave, yeah, exactly.
• 1:10:12
  But actually the escape back. Isn't.
• 1:10:17
  They're interesting, but I suppose.
• 1:10:18
  They're unaffiliated, Yeah, no. So OK.
• 1:10:22
  As unaffiliated. These are the more random
• 1:10:26
  characters. Traxians, OK, they're just wild.
• 1:10:31
  The mine worker, Specsian, he comes in the sexiest wave and
• 1:10:34
  the Phillies is a kind of a tribute, so they don't.
• 1:10:38
  And Fisher Rice is a tribute as well, so makes sense.
• 1:10:42
  The maze is the graze, right? Yeah, so another grey possible,
• 1:10:48
  but I think they're still available to buy these guys, at
• 1:10:53
  least one of them. So this is the one if if Jeremy.
• 1:10:59
  Say no. What they think.
• 1:11:00
  I wonder if they're going to explore the spot.
• 1:11:02
  Because you're going to get weird and wonderful.
• 1:11:04
  Mechanical. Mechanical part, not human part.
• 1:11:09
  So tucked far away in the deepest pockets.
• 1:11:11
  Of system that looks a colony of scavengers and outliers known as
• 1:11:15
  the Red spiral. So these can be all sorts of mad
• 1:11:19
  looking characters, basically characters.
• 1:11:24
  I think it's what about these guys?
• 1:11:25
  But yeah, you could. Easily have a group of these
• 1:11:27
  arriving at an outpost, couldn't you?
• 1:11:30
  Yeah, so you could have more official looking.
• 1:11:32
  Characters. And then these, as you say,
• 1:11:34
  weird and wonderful ones. Well, I'll be I love that.
• 1:11:37
  And what do people like in Star Wars?
• 1:11:39
  They like. The bounty halters, all these
• 1:11:40
  kind of, you know, cobbled together kind of gritty
• 1:11:44
  characters. The bleeders Guild that's so
• 1:11:49
  Novi lean. This is the more the best
• 1:11:51
  figures bounty hold hunters, the Embira, Jambira and Operative 83
• 1:11:57
  tribute. So we don't put too much in him
• 1:12:01
  in terms of the lore. But yeah, these are agents
• 1:12:05
  trained to extract in in. So these are the bounty hunters
• 1:12:07
  extract and trade information. So any addition to that fact
• 1:12:13
  affiliation is going to be cool. I think, you know, we can agree
• 1:12:17
  on that, yeah. Mortal.
• 1:12:21
  Thorn just. Serine Spire and no info really
• 1:12:27
  on the mortal thorn. Maybe could explore?
• 1:12:31
  That a bit more, yeah, there's plenty of scope for.
• 1:12:34
  That or they could go back to wave 1 and continue with the
• 1:12:38
  grave ring. So that's where all these
• 1:12:43
  characters, I mean Olek, who's kind of the main character in
• 1:12:47
  Cosmic or was definitely at the start, he's in the grave.
• 1:12:52
  Ring you have. The two versions of him, the
• 1:12:55
  kind of before and after, and you got Zarian and Vorga.
• 1:13:01
  Kragner. And Ieus who?
• 1:13:04
  So Zarian and Ieus appeared in other affiliations as well.
• 1:13:08
  So interesting that that's kind of where they who they are
• 1:13:13
  outside of the grave ring. And then the Tusk is like.
• 1:13:18
  Loads of the other characters, so all the suits.
• 1:13:23
  I mean, Scourge is a bit of an outlier here in terms of he's a
• 1:13:28
  dragon build again, a tribute. So yeah.
• 1:13:33
  But I do you think there's actually more Tusk?
• 1:13:36
  There isn't a huge amount really.
• 1:13:38
  They could definitely do more colours.
• 1:13:40
  Yeah, I think that's why that's the Tusk.
• 1:13:43
  Whatso allows them to do doesn't.
• 1:13:44
  It. Is true builders that have
• 1:13:47
  variety of colours, but I suppose they have used the Tusk
• 1:13:50
  armour. And a couple of other
• 1:13:51
  characters. Oh yeah.
• 1:13:53
  So places go there and then. Very rich, yeah.
• 1:13:57
  Oh, sorry, John, I was just saying in terms of the tusks.
• 1:13:58
  They'd be a good spot to put robots in sort of thing.
• 1:14:02
  But then we've had the Phantom Group task trooper things and we
• 1:14:05
  recently wish and they were talking about some of them being
• 1:14:07
  robots. So maybe, maybe a few new
• 1:14:09
  robotic. Parts isn't where they're.
• 1:14:11
  Going to go with that. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:14:14
  And obviously, the Tusk. Armour shows up with.
• 1:14:18
  The other characters as well, you know, like Kyler has it in
• 1:14:22
  for example, and you know, they use the torsos and stuff and
• 1:14:27
  some of the characters more as reuse, I suppose.
• 1:14:33
  But yeah, so that's cosmic. It could go in any direction.
• 1:14:36
  Then you see with the story, I do think the stranger, the more
• 1:14:41
  sci-fi the better, you know, but it would be a lot of investment
• 1:14:48
  in tooling for them. So it's a bit of a balance
• 1:14:50
  there. Yeah, now is the time, if they
• 1:14:52
  really. Really want to push it forward?
• 1:14:54
  Then now is the time to go. Weird, Weird and wonderful
• 1:14:57
  sci-fi. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:15:01
  OK. I think that's it all covered
• 1:15:04
  then. So that's your year, which isn't
• 1:15:11
  going to happen that way. But it was fun at.
• 1:15:12
  This point I think to take the time, a little bit of downtime
• 1:15:17
  and want to thank all our viewers, listeners, watchers for
• 1:15:22
  their support, especially the Patreons who keep us going to
• 1:15:25
  keep the lights on in various places.
• 1:15:28
  So thanks to them. We'll we'll definitely have more
• 1:15:32
  Patreon episodes coming up in the next while.
• 1:15:35
  Yeah, and there'll be some more rich randoms done when I get my
• 1:15:38
  butt in gear. And sorts out a date,
• 1:15:40
  definitely. Maybe some movie stuff.
• 1:15:42
  Around some of those movies that are coming out be definitely I'd
• 1:15:45
  love to do a chat about the Masters movie.
• 1:15:48
  It looks like Rich is going to go on day one.
• 1:15:50
  I'm sure Mal will be going close to day one and I will as well.
• 1:15:54
  So you know, void spoilers. Send me.
• 1:15:59
  Messages today actually, but the the Star Wars the Mandalorian if
• 1:16:03
  you book for day one you get a limited edition poster whilst
• 1:16:08
  while stocks last so if you don't get.
• 1:16:11
  One hard look, but the approach I'll be taking is you know.
• 1:16:18
  Of course, I'd like to go day one, but it depends.
• 1:16:21
  It needs to suit me as well, yeah.
• 1:16:24
  I'm not going to. Create hassle for myself if if I
• 1:16:28
  can just go the next day right so that's it and another your
• 1:16:34
  agents in the books indeed Cheers rich cheers, Matt bye
• 1:16:45
  stay safe out there everybody remember.
• 1:16:47
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