Latest / CattleUSA Daily / 337: The Future of Beef Is in the Hands of the Next Generation with Wes Shaw
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- 0:00We're welcoming West Shaw onto the podcast today, and Wes is
- 0:03here to talk about policy work in DC and how that relates to us
- 0:08as producers back home. And some disconnect that he has
- 0:11experienced himself. And also just has a really
- 0:14candid conversation about a young producer in agriculture
- 0:18and how he is taking that into his future in policy work and
- 0:23what he has had the privilege of working on, working with, and
- 0:26just some general encouragement for producers across the nation.
- 0:30We hop in today's podcast episode with Wes.
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- 0:43now without further ado, let's go ahead and hear from Wes Shaw.
- 0:50Welcome to the Cattle USA Daily Podcast, your go to source for
- 0:54the latest livestock markets, industry insights and the update
- 0:57shaping agriculture today. I'm your host, Lauren Moylan, a
- 1:01passionate advocate for agriculture, here to keep you
- 1:03informed and connected. Now let's dive into today's
- 1:07episode. Wes, welcome to the podcast.
- 1:13I am so excited for today's conversation with you.
- 1:16I would love it if you could just take it away, share a
- 1:19little bit about yourself, your background, your family's
- 1:21operation, and then also how you kind of got into policy work
- 1:25within agriculture. Absolutely.
- 1:27Well again, Lauren, like I said earlier, thank you so much for
- 1:30having me on today. Took a little glance at y'all's
- 1:32podcast and y'all see y'all are doing quite a quite a few good
- 1:35things with it and love to see agriculture using new mediums
- 1:39and communicating our stories essentially.
- 1:41But yeah, as you said, my name is Wes Shaw.
- 1:44I am a fifth generation cattle rancher from the rural Texas
- 1:47Panhandle from our operation Shaw Lynn and Cattle is based in
- 1:50McLean, TX and the surrounding counties and that we run about
- 1:551500 head of Red Angus, Charlotte Cross and yeah, just
- 1:59been going and blowing here in rural West TX since about the
- 2:02late 1800s and been passionate about agriculture my entire
- 2:06life. Of course, growing up like many
- 2:08rural students, I grew up in rural Texas Panhandle.
- 2:11So for H and FFA were a big part of who I was and then currently
- 2:15studying agricultural communications at Texas Tech
- 2:17University hoping to get that degree and then move into policy
- 2:21work. Policy is something that has
- 2:23become a big interest in mind, though, Warren, since I was
- 2:26younger, a lot younger than I am now.
- 2:28I'm still a young guy myself, But I saw a need for people to
- 2:34be able to accurately communicate to our elected
- 2:38officials, whether it be in Washington or in Austin, about
- 2:41the needs that agriculture is facing today and the challenges
- 2:43that it has. And so have a little bit of
- 2:46experience in that through organizations like Texas Farm
- 2:49Bureau, Texas Southwest Calories Association and as well as
- 2:53through AG Features of America, A great organization that I got
- 2:56plugged into with tech last year.
- 2:58And then also it was able to pass five months in turn in
- 3:02Washington, DC with Chairman August Pfluger from Texas 11th
- 3:05Congressional District in the Midlands, San Angelo and Killeen
- 3:08area. But got to see policy in action.
- 3:11There was actually on the floor or in the gallery whenever the
- 3:15farm bill was passed a couple weeks ago.
- 3:16So was very excited to get to see do that get done.
- 3:19But yeah, it's a little bit about me.
- 3:20Wonderful and that is such a little like fun thing to be able
- 3:25to do something that we've been working on for so long being
- 3:28able to be witness to the farm bill being passed and all of the
- 3:32work that you guys and the team has done in Washington has just
- 3:36been so fun to be able to sit back and watch.
- 3:39So as we kind of open up this conversation and you coming in
- 3:42as a person that is a fifth generation rancher, someone who
- 3:46grew up in just inundated in this world, like it is part of
- 3:50your blood, sweat and soul is the agricultural community and
- 3:53your passion for the beef industry is very apparent.
- 3:56Can you talk a little bit about stepping into policy work as a
- 4:00young individual and what that looks like?
- 4:02You've obviously have a passion for the disconnect that was
- 4:05there, but when you stepped in, did you still see that
- 4:08disconnect? And then what has that process
- 4:10really looked like for you over the previous months?
- 4:13Yeah. I think stepping into DC was a
- 4:16very different situation. The town that I grew up in has
- 4:19600 people. DC is one of the largest
- 4:21metropolitan areas in the country.
- 4:22So you see that kind of a disconnect from rural America in
- 4:26Washington sometimes. And I would definitely agree
- 4:28with that. It really comes down to like
- 4:30your member, for example, I work for Congressman and Kluger, he's
- 4:34a great team around him. He has people who are passionate
- 4:36about rural advocacy and rural interests and so can't speak
- 4:40highly enough on his team for sure.
- 4:41But whenever you look at the policy disconnect, sometimes
- 4:45it's there. We have, I mean, rural members
- 4:48are dwindling across the country.
- 4:50You see these rural interest and things like that that aren't as
- 4:54well versed on on the Hill sometimes.
- 4:57Thankfully for the work of Congressman GT or Chairman GT
- 5:01Thompson from Pennsylvania, who is the chair of the AG Committee
- 5:04and the other Republican members of the committee, we were able
- 5:06to get a farm bill pass through that committee and then
- 5:09eventually under the House for where it received a bipartisan
- 5:11support, which was a big thing that we like to see.
- 5:14And whenever it comes to, yes, there's a little bit of a
- 5:17disconnect between the members and rural interest, but they're
- 5:21still understand like this is a priority for rural America is to
- 5:25have legislation that allows for agriculture to continue to
- 5:29expand on, which is something that I think is very needed
- 5:33currently. Whenever we look back at the
- 5:34founding of our nation, agriculture was the heart.
- 5:38George Washington was a farmer. Thomas Jefferson was a farmer.
- 5:41And so whenever you see the interest of rural agriculture
- 5:44itself being lifted up in Congress, it's something that's
- 5:49there is the disconnect, but it gives you hope for the future.
- 5:51Absolutely. Does and it is a hefty job that
- 5:56our congressmen and women and our senators take up
- 6:00representing rural America in DC.
- 6:02It is there's very few of us, but we have a really loud voice
- 6:06and it's really encouraging to see that voice continue to be
- 6:09heard. And even though there is that
- 6:10disconnect, there is still hope within that and there are still
- 6:14people there fighting the good fight.
- 6:17And so a lot of the stuff that you you've been doing, you've
- 6:19touched on the Farm Bill, you touched, I'm sure you've also
- 6:22touched policy on New World screwworm.
- 6:25You've done a lot of research on all of these things.
- 6:27And as a young producer yourself, you are committing
- 6:30yourself to staying involved in these conversations, whether
- 6:34you're working in DC as an intern or whether you are back
- 6:37home on your family's operation. Can you talk a little bit about
- 6:40the importance of staying attentive as producers or as a
- 6:45young individual in agriculture, to the policy being made around
- 6:48these decisions? Think young producers like
- 6:51myself and those that are coming up in rural America, it's vital
- 6:55that we stay connected on these policy issues.
- 6:57You see you mentioned earlier New World screwworm.
- 6:59That's something that my dad and I talk about quite a lot.
- 7:02We see this threat essentially to our way of life that has come
- 7:07back again, whatever it was pretty much eliminated from the
- 7:10US in the, but we're seeing it threatened on our knock on our
- 7:14doorstep again. So policy areas like that are
- 7:17vital that we stay connected with them.
- 7:19As a rural young producer myself, I want for, I want for
- 7:23people to understand that it's not just going to take one voice
- 7:26to be there. It takes a large strong voice.
- 7:29It takes an army of strong voices to let these policy areas
- 7:33and issues be able to have that light shed on them.
- 7:37And that's what we did with New World Screwer.
- 7:39Again, whenever we think about policy areas across the nation,
- 7:43we're going to have different policy issue areas in in Texas
- 7:46than they are going to have with a beef producer in Nebraska.
- 7:49However, whenever, for example, the Nebraska, whenever the
- 7:51wildfires blew through Nebraska earlier this year, they made
- 7:54their voices heard. They were like, no, we need
- 7:56help. This is something that's is
- 7:58affecting us. Nebraska has the largest beef
- 8:00population in the country. We all have to admit that even
- 8:03as a Texan, unfortunately, I will.
- 8:04I'll give it to Nebraska on that.
- 8:06They do beat us in the beef on speed up there, but we still got
- 8:10them on Mama cast. So but you know, it's just
- 8:13staying up to date on these issues is so important for the
- 8:17next generation of producers. And I think we are doing a good
- 8:21job with that. But as always, there's always
- 8:23room for growth and staying connected, getting people to
- 8:27places, whether it be through a fly into DC or through like for
- 8:31example, Texas Farm Bureau has the Young farmer and Rancher
- 8:34program where they bring groups where they bring these young
- 8:37producers together. Do educate them on these policy
- 8:40issue areas that are affecting rural America and allowing for
- 8:44them to be the next generation of leaders, whether it be in
- 8:47their local communities, in state government, or on a
- 8:49national level. Absolutely.
- 8:51And one of the biggest things that I have seen as far as
- 8:55policy goes and staying involved in policy is that so often we
- 9:01start having a conversation about something or ruffling our
- 9:04tail feathers about things after decisions have already been
- 9:07made. And all too often we sit back
- 9:11and we're like, it's not an issue yet or we don't even hear
- 9:15about it as rural Americans sometimes until those grassroots
- 9:19initiatives really start ramping up.
- 9:21And then sometimes it's too late.
- 9:24And so can you talk a little bit more about the importance of
- 9:27really staying involved in what is happening on the national
- 9:31scale and making your voice heard there?
- 9:33Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to go back to the farm
- 9:36bill, what we did, what they did with the farm Bill this last
- 9:39year, they brought in over 500 commodity groups and
- 9:41organizations, whether it be the Texas Southwest cattle raisers
- 9:44all the way to your American Sor Sorghum Council or things, any,
- 9:47any group like that. And you're, they're having these
- 9:50inputs brought in from each one of the states who is an
- 9:53agricultural producer because every state has some form of
- 9:56agricultural production in it. And so they're having these rule
- 9:59voices heard and by doing steps like that and having a farm bill
- 10:03that is done, made for and made for and by farmers and ranchers
- 10:07across the country, that's something that's vital.
- 10:10But staying up to date with agriculture itself and the
- 10:14challenges that we're facing, it's going to be the make or
- 10:16break of the industry itself. We see an encouragement of
- 10:19urbanization into these rural sectors.
- 10:22I mean, whatever Texas is having to pass a piece of legislation
- 10:25to our state constitution that is a guaranteed right to farm
- 10:28because urban centers like Bristow, who weren't urban
- 10:32centers at one point but are now have merged into the Dallas Fort
- 10:35Worth area. Whenever they're going in and
- 10:36mowing down a crop or saying, no, your cattle can't be there,
- 10:40they're producing a smell or something like that.
- 10:42Whenever we're having to pass legislation to guarantee that,
- 10:45that's going to start bringing some alarm bells, especially in
- 10:48my opinion. I know I'm in the middle of
- 10:50nowhere, Texas, but you know, it's just it's something that's
- 10:53vital to the industry itself. Whenever we aren't actively
- 10:57involved and being ahead of the game, instead of, like you said,
- 11:01being reactionary, we have to be on the offense at all times.
- 11:04We can't be defensive anymore. In the agriculture industry and
- 11:07especially as cattle producers, we see these different avenues
- 11:11that you know what, yeah, there's there's threats to the
- 11:14industry. California's Prop 12 was
- 11:15something that kind of raised the alarm bell with me
- 11:18specifically, even though it affects one.
- 11:20What's to say that they can't put in something like that for
- 11:22cattle itself? That's something that is we have
- 11:25to be be proactive about and it's something that AG producers
- 11:30young and old need to be better. Yeah, absolutely.
- 11:33So as a young producer having these conversations, do you feel
- 11:36like there is more or less disconnect between young
- 11:41producers and what's happening on Capitol Hill?
- 11:44Like is there an age thing with this kind of trend that you're
- 11:46seeing? Is there encouragement that
- 11:48we're seeing in these younger producers?
- 11:50Kind of from that perspective, what are you really seeing as
- 11:53far as disconnected connect goes?
- 11:55That's a good question. I'm going to say it's kind of a
- 11:57mix of both. It depends on where you're at.
- 12:00For one thing, I know I don't know anybody from where I'm
- 12:03from. It's wanting to go talk in
- 12:04Washington. It's just something, it's a wave
- 12:07that we are in rural communities.
- 12:09We like to stick to ourselves and the only gossip that we like
- 12:11to hear about is what's going on down the street, not what's
- 12:13going on in Washington, Capitol Hill, but it's something that
- 12:16needs to be addressed for sure. I think that our cattle industry
- 12:20is specifically is doing a good job in getting these connections
- 12:23built with these younger producers like myself and our
- 12:26elected officials and the people who are actually making the
- 12:29decision in those offices are the staffers.
- 12:31The staffers are a big deal. I know a lot of people want to
- 12:34meet with a congressman whenever you go to Washington or your
- 12:36local representative whenever you're in Austin.
- 12:38But meeting with the staffers just is important because if
- 12:40you're not being able to push tell your story to these
- 12:43staffers, they're not going to tell that story to their boss
- 12:46and tell them, you know what, this is something you need to
- 12:47vote for. And we kind of saw that with the
- 12:49farm bill. We saw cattle ranchers come into
- 12:52these offices and talk a lot with staffers.
- 12:54And it's something that's very important.
- 12:56And it's a younger generation as well that's doing this now,
- 12:58which is very encouraging for me to see.
- 13:00And also, yeah, it's looking good there.
- 13:04But yes, I think an age thing is an issue that we're seeing, of
- 13:07course, national age of the cattle farmer or ranchers on the
- 13:10rise continually each year because we're not seeing the
- 13:13affordability come into it again.
- 13:15But I am seeing hope and a light at the end of the tunnel that
- 13:17there is going to be a next generation that is willing to
- 13:20step up and get a bat for agriculture itself.
- 13:23Well, when we're having conversations with people like
- 13:25you, it makes me very, very optimistic for the future of
- 13:29agriculture because your passion and what you've done thus far
- 13:33really goes to a test to that. And back to what you said
- 13:36earlier about staffers, I always tell people I'm like, if you are
- 13:40calling your congressman, congresswoman, your senators,
- 13:43anyone representing you, whether it's on a state level or on a
- 13:46national level, and you get the phone answered by a staffer.
- 13:51And they're like, I can have this conversation with you, have
- 13:54that conversation with that staffer because nine times out
- 13:57of 10, they're actually driving more decisions as a team then
- 14:01your actual representative are themselves.
- 14:04And if honestly, you will be able to hold a staffer on the
- 14:07phone for a solid 15 to 30 minutes where you get your
- 14:09congressman on the phone and you have maybe 3 minutes of that
- 14:13conversation, right? And so it is always one of those
- 14:16things like, yes, make your voice be heard.
- 14:18Understand that you have the ability to have a relationship
- 14:22with your team in Washington DC that is representing you and
- 14:25representing cattle country. But it is the full team, not
- 14:29just the one elected official that is really making these
- 14:32decisions and driving the speed of DC and everything that's
- 14:36happening there. So you made such a great point
- 14:38there that I just really wanted to drive home with people
- 14:41because so often it's like, well, I'd like to talk to the
- 14:43person representing me and that's all good and well.
- 14:46But at the same time there's there's a whole team behind them
- 14:49too that is more than willing to hear that.
- 14:51For sure. And it it can even be an intern
- 14:53that'll pass it along to the staffers as somebody who lived
- 14:55that life. But yeah, it's always a good,
- 14:57good time there in DC and whenever you're hanging, hanging
- 15:00out and talking with the boss or talking with the staffers and
- 15:03just they have people there for a reason.
- 15:06And the people every. I always say there's a you have
- 15:08a purpose in life, and that purpose can be to answer that
- 15:12phone and talk to John Brown from walks to Hatchie, Texas,
- 15:17who's a cattle producer and just wants to wants to tell you about
- 15:20what he thinks about something that's going on in his local
- 15:23community. You never know what's going to.
- 15:24Happen. Yeah, you truly don't.
- 15:25And so one of the big things that you did when you were in DC
- 15:29and then continue to do is you walk in kind of two different
- 15:32lights. You walk in a producer hat, but
- 15:34then you're also in your policy hat and being the voice for your
- 15:38family's operation, but also just involved in those
- 15:41decisions, in that research, things like that that you're
- 15:44continuing to do as you develop into your career in your future.
- 15:47And those two circles can sometimes get a little divided.
- 15:51I have witnessed it myself that we like to be comfortable as
- 15:55humans naturally. And so we're naturally going to
- 15:57surround ourselves with people that make us comfortable and not
- 16:01always with challenging things or divisive things.
- 16:04And so sometimes our circles can be a little divided and we don't
- 16:08see a ton of that. What do you think that a main
- 16:11reason for that disconnect is? And then how are you kind of
- 16:13encouraging people within agriculture to bridge that
- 16:17disconnect of continuing to get involved and specifically not
- 16:22necessarily involved at the DC level, but involved in their
- 16:25communities as far as policy goes?
- 16:28Yeah, I mean, policy starts in the community, policy starts
- 16:31there and the disconnect is something that isn't is an issue
- 16:34you see today. People aren't knowing what's
- 16:37going on in DCA lot of times, but by having those community
- 16:40advocates out there, it's very encouraging to see that there is
- 16:44a group of people that is still interested in this and still
- 16:47wants what's best for, as you said earlier, the entire
- 16:49community. Whenever you think about it, you
- 16:52have your like you said, I have my DC hat and I have my policy
- 16:54hat or in my AG hat. It's very, it's a very hard
- 16:57balance trying to keep those two circles together.
- 17:00You know, you have your friendships there and you're
- 17:03always like, you know what, let's just you have to be bold.
- 17:06I think it's something that's very important, bold in those
- 17:08conversations with both groups. And sometimes you just got to
- 17:11bring those groups together and be like, you know what this is?
- 17:13Y'all are going to hash this out.
- 17:14You're going to hash out your beliefs and your things you
- 17:16don't agree on. And at the end of the day, you
- 17:17can shake hands at the end after the meeting and just go go force
- 17:21with your day. And hopefully you've made
- 17:22progress there and built that relationship in the a sense of
- 17:25kind of camaraderie because we're all and we're all looking
- 17:28what's for what's best for the country itself.
- 17:31And that's something that a lot of people don't understand
- 17:33sometimes with DC and they think it's just special interest
- 17:36groups. But now you have men and women
- 17:39working there and, and also in your rural communities that are
- 17:42wanting the best for the nation as a whole.
- 17:45Bridging that disconnect and that kind of misunderstanding
- 17:48between the two is something that's very important.
- 17:49Personally, like I said, I like to bring those two groups
- 17:52together and whether it's over a bowl of chili without beans
- 17:55because it's Texas and we don't do that at my house.
- 17:57And just be like, you know what? Let's just let's sit down and
- 18:00let's just have an honest conversation with each with each
- 18:02other. And that's something that's very
- 18:04important and something that we like to have whenever I'm back
- 18:07in Lubbock with my 2 little groups friends that I like to
- 18:10run around with. Because you're right, there is
- 18:12there's a group of producer friends and there's a group of
- 18:13policy friends. And you know, you just got to
- 18:16bring them together sometimes. That way they can they can
- 18:18understand the differences between the two and have a
- 18:21better sense of all right, XY and Z is going to be best for
- 18:25this group. XY and Z is going to be best for
- 18:26this group. Let's find something in the
- 18:28middle that's going to be in a fit.
- 18:29Ever. You know, Wes, I was really
- 18:30starting to like you and tell you said meat soup.
- 18:33I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but all you're eating is meat soup if
- 18:37you're having chili without beans.
- 18:39Listen, I'm a cattle producer. I don't grow beans.
- 18:41You know, that's fair, that's fair.
- 18:43We'll, we'll just agree to disagree on this and.
- 18:47I'll make you my chili, you can make you make yours, and then
- 18:50we'll decide what's best. Now, I did put rice in mine at
- 18:52the end of the day, but you know, it's pretty good.
- 18:55You put rice in your chili, but you won't put beans in it.
- 18:58It's after I cook it, after I cook the rice in the chili
- 19:01separate. If I want some rice, I do that.
- 19:03I know it's different but. It's OK.
- 19:05It's OK. I'll let it.
- 19:06I'll let it go. We have, we have cinnamon rolls
- 19:08with our chili here in Kansas. So yeah, don't knock it till you
- 19:13try it. It's the best thing ever.
- 19:14Your life will be changed. Maybe you need some cinnamon
- 19:16rolls with your rice. And your life will be forever
- 19:19changed. We'll think about.
- 19:23Well, on a conversation of being a young person that is really
- 19:28trying to take this next step forward in your career as far as
- 19:31policy work goes, as far as representing rural America goes.
- 19:34I do want to take a second to talk about your internship
- 19:37program and how that kind of developed you as a person and
- 19:41how that really ignited your passion for what you're
- 19:45continuing to do in your local community.
- 19:47Yeah, for sure. So as I said earlier, I got a
- 19:50text on summer break right now and back at home on the ranch
- 19:55and helping out here as best as I can.
- 19:57We've been branding cabs all week.
- 19:59So that's been a good joy. But our government internship
- 20:02program with Texas Tech is second to none.
- 20:04I would, I would probably say some people down in College
- 20:07Station might argue that, but you know what?
- 20:08We'll again, we'll disagree. But yes.
- 20:11So our Davis College of Agricultural Sciences and
- 20:13Natural Resources at Texas Tech has a long standing tradition of
- 20:17wanting for agriculture advocates to be in Washington,
- 20:20DC. Currently we've been sending 3
- 20:22interns in the fall, spring or summer each.
- 20:25So each time there is a Davis College and AG representation or
- 20:28Texas Tech in Washington DC. But yeah, that program is
- 20:32allowed for a lot of students to find their next job opportunity.
- 20:35I'm I know quite a few of the House AG staffers or Texas Tech
- 20:38Davis in college past interns, 1 of Congressman Pflueger's his
- 20:42press secretary actually was a Davis college student in AG Comm
- 20:45as well, which I'm like, heck yes, we like to see that.
- 20:48But yeah, you just see people all over the place.
- 20:51Now Texas Tech has become pretty much ADC is another mini Texas
- 20:55Tech alumni center, it seems like and where they just come
- 20:58together and you know what, we're going to have a good time
- 21:00and then talk on AG or whatever's going on.
- 21:03But yes, the government internship program though for
- 21:05through the Davis College and Texas Tech allowed me to see
- 21:09that yes, this is something I want to pursue in the future.
- 21:11Policy is something that's very close to my heart.
- 21:14I mean, it really ignited that flame.
- 21:16I did AI back in high school. I did some policy work as well
- 21:19with through a competitively through the UIL series and
- 21:23congressional debate and got to debate in Austin and do stuff
- 21:26like that. But you that really kind of
- 21:28ignited the flame that the DC experience.
- 21:31I'm an interning with Congressman Fluter's office
- 21:34would truly allow for me to see that this is something I want to
- 21:37pursue in the future. This is something that is a
- 21:39necessary thing for me to do because there isn't very many
- 21:42people out in rural America anymore who are wanting to come
- 21:45out here and do that work in DC or Austin or even your local
- 21:48community government in your Dist, whether it be in your
- 21:51district, your congressman's district office, as a county
- 21:54clerk or as a commissioner here in Texas, you don't see very
- 21:57many people doing that. But that's something that I've
- 22:00done this very vital to the success in the livelihood of
- 22:03rural America. Absolutely.
- 22:05I could not agree more in everything that you said there.
- 22:09And so many colleges have really similar programs.
- 22:12And you know, although you will walk around DC and you'll see a
- 22:15bunch of Aggie rings or a bunch of Texas Tech alums like, well,
- 22:19there, there is a little bit of a Texas cult going on in DC
- 22:22right now. So I have a call out to all of
- 22:24our other cattle representing states to get our butts up
- 22:28there, get our stuff figured out.
- 22:30Well, please don't throw us in the cult, cult cult group.
- 22:33I know Tech does our rings as well, but let's throw us in
- 22:36there with the whole group. We're we're very, we get along.
- 22:40We're cordial. You're very inclusive.
- 22:42We're very we're very we like all the Texas schools now.
- 22:45Austin can sometimes the UT guys can count, sometimes get on
- 22:48their nerves, but we'll let them pass.
- 22:50They have they have a good music festival and things like that.
- 22:52So we'll let them slide sometimes because, you know,
- 22:55Lovek loves her live music as well.
- 22:56But yeah, now good, good group of Texas people down there.
- 22:59I mean, we have 58 offices, so you got to have as many Texas
- 23:02people in DC as you possibly can, so.
- 23:05Absolutely. I could not agree more.
- 23:07Well, as far as like just, there's so many young producers
- 23:10that listen to this podcast West and there are a lot that are
- 23:14like, yes, I want to be involved in AG.
- 23:16I was raised in it, maybe I was raised adjunctly to it, and I
- 23:20want to be involved in agriculture, but I don't
- 23:22necessarily know what my groove is, where my fit is, where that
- 23:26puzzle piece really lies perfectly for me.
- 23:28What is your advice for those individuals that are kind of
- 23:32trying to figure out where they fit in the future of
- 23:34agriculture? Yeah, well, you're young and I'm
- 23:37young, so we all have an advantage there.
- 23:39We're young and we we can, we can.
- 23:42Our 20s are where we can kind of explore different areas and see
- 23:45what we really like to do. I think an internship is a great
- 23:49opportunity to do that. I know Davis College actually is
- 23:52expanding our internship program.
- 23:53We're going to be sending 5 from now on up to DC and then also
- 23:57going to be starting a permanent fellowship program as well where
- 24:00we'll have one of my very good friends actually is going to be
- 24:03the fellow for the our first inaugural fellowship member for
- 24:07Davis College and Texas Tech in DC, but it's going to be a year
- 24:11just working in DCI. Think she's going to be placed
- 24:14with USDA's rural like the rural advocacy area there, but it
- 24:18could be anywhere from the trade representative's office to the
- 24:21Capitol Hill House AG Committee, centered AG committee.
- 24:24It's just anywhere they we can find for you.
- 24:27But essentially, yeah, take an internship, go to DC, don't, as
- 24:30you said earlier, don't knock it till you try it.
- 24:32You never know what's going to happen.
- 24:34That's what an internship is for.
- 24:35And again, if you're looking for something, if you're wanting to
- 24:38say kind of more local, TSCRA in Texas does internships.
- 24:41The Texas Beef Council is at a great opportunity.
- 24:43Although it's not policy work, it's still understanding what
- 24:46producers and consumers are needing here in Texas and across
- 24:49the nation in CBA. There's all these organizations
- 24:52that are looking for people, for young individuals to take the
- 24:55reins and say, you know what, let's go, let's find this, this
- 24:59NAP, this niche that we need to be serving on.
- 25:02This niche industry with cattle ranching and agriculture as a
- 25:05whole itself that needs loud voices in DC and Austin and also
- 25:09in your local communities because without it, we're a
- 25:12dying breed. Agriculture is shrinking, means
- 25:15we're less now. I used to say we were 2% of the
- 25:18population. It's about 1.5% of the
- 25:19population now here in the United States because we're
- 25:22seeing large swaths of young producers not come back to the
- 25:25ranch. I mean, it's something that's
- 25:27definitely something that needs to be addressed, whether that be
- 25:29policy wise or just and in general just encouraging young
- 25:33men and women to take up agriculture itself and be the
- 25:36people who feed, fuel and feed and fueled our growing nation on
- 25:41our growing world. Absolutely.
- 25:43So as you look at the future of agriculture W, what gives you
- 25:47just the most optimism for the next generation and just the
- 25:51future of agriculture in general?
- 25:52I would say we are. Gen.
- 25:54Z itself is a very confident generation.
- 25:57We're very confident in our abilities.
- 25:58We know what we can and can't do, and we know we're willing to
- 26:01reach out and ask people for help.
- 26:03I think that's something that's very important for us.
- 26:06I love my dad and my granddad a lot, but sometimes they're a
- 26:08little bit more stubborn to ask for help and things like that.
- 26:11But I think that's something that's going to benefit our the
- 26:14younger generation more in the future.
- 26:16And there's also there is an interest, there is an interest
- 26:19in continuing to pursue agriculture to pursue this, this
- 26:23noble passion that has been a quarterstone of our nation since
- 26:27the founding of the Republic of the American Republic.
- 26:29Here in the United States, we are a leading producer in
- 26:33agricultural commodities across our across our growing world.
- 26:37And it's something that we maintain for sure.
- 26:39The advancements in our technological sector are
- 26:42allowing for agriculture to be more productive.
- 26:44I know right now in Texas, we're a massive drought where I'm
- 26:47from. But you're seeing these
- 26:49technologies, whether it be through vertical integration and
- 26:52things like that in agriculture, you just see I'm in integrating
- 26:57technology into operations. You see this advancement in
- 27:01production and it's something that's giving a lot of light and
- 27:04a lot of optimism for that. I know we farm as well on our
- 27:07operation. My uncle can turn on the Pivot
- 27:09office phone now. And so just that integration
- 27:12into the technological sector is something that's going to
- 27:15benefit benefit us in the future for sure.
- 27:17It's a very exciting time to be a part of agriculture and to be
- 27:22a part of that future. And I personally am very excited
- 27:26if we have people like you representing us in all of those
- 27:29sectors. So thank you for all that you
- 27:30are doing and just your passion for Agriculture West.
- 27:33This has been such a wonderful conversation and as we wrap it
- 27:36up, is there anything else that you would like to say or leave
- 27:39with our audience members today? Don't be scared to do it.
- 27:42I know moving to DC for a lot of rural Americans is a daunting
- 27:46task, but once you're there, you'll find that DC is a lot
- 27:50like a small town Everybody knows everybody.
- 27:53You find your people and you know that everything's going
- 27:56around at 1,000,000 miles an hour sometimes, but it's all
- 27:58right and there's. There is hope for agriculture in
- 28:01the future. I think what we're seeing is
- 28:03that our our elected officials know that agriculture is
- 28:06struggling right now. Cattle is one of the only areas
- 28:09in the sector that is in the green essentially.
- 28:11But we're still seeing American production is declining.
- 28:14We see our national cattle herd declining, and we got passed in
- 28:17total beef production, which is something we need to address,
- 28:19got passed by Brazil this last year.
- 28:21But it's something that we need to address as an as an industry
- 28:24and as a country itself that we want to be #1 America is the
- 28:27best nation in the world. And we're proud to be here, and
- 28:29we're proud to be American and we're proud to be American
- 28:31producers. And so by allowing for American
- 28:34products to be the number one thing that's going to take
- 28:38American Americans, next generation of young producers
- 28:41like myself and advocates like you, Lauren, taking on the reins
- 28:45of these operations and saying, you know what, Let's go kick
- 28:48some butt and kick agriculture into the next, into the
- 28:51stratosphere and let it grow and be the best that it can be.
- 28:54I couldn't have said it better myself.
- 28:57Wes, thank you so much for your time today, for your passion,
- 29:01everything else that you have come on to just candidly share
- 29:04with us today. I really appreciate it.
- 29:06And to all of you audience members, thanks for listening to
- 29:09another episode of the Cattle USA Daily Podcast.
- 29:11I will have all of Wes's information linked down below.
- 29:14And thank you once again for listening.
- 29:16We'll see you all next time. Have a good one you guys.