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The Truth About Indian Skincare: Myths, Hacks and Real Treatments | Doctor vs Internet · Health Wealth

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Speaker 1: This is and today podcasts, the Internet problems, he products
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and that trying is what really culls your skin. Sometimes
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called toothpaste, cast pimple tap.
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Speaker 2: Lymphatic dramage, got to be brush. I just a look up.
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It's a bathroom floor of sugar vanilts or yes, Carmon
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was given my first ORI medicine because it was so much.
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Speaker 1: How do you identify what pimple do you have?
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Speaker 2: Simple? And it's not the only culprit, but it's a
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big culprit.
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Speaker 1: Y k s.
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Speaker 2: A skin sense and a brisk oil rollplaymen to just
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get a barrier, compromise O body dry skinuria may.
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Speaker 1: Or why you get acne has got little to do
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with what you're applying, but more to do with what
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you're eating.
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Speaker 2: Amuka proof hair, ak sugar or aka.
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Speaker 1: What does that mean for all the supplements.
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Speaker 2: Problem India, the UK resistance you cantiba or research.
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Speaker 1: But I didn't know this is an antibiotic. That's crazy.
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Speaker 2: I have had patients where they have decided to abort
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their children because just because they didn't know, and they've
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been on tretno in doctor sor Retino is not safe
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in pregnancy.
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Speaker 1: Wow, But that's how dangerous it is.
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Speaker 2: In the U S. It is compulsory to sign a
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consent form.
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Speaker 1: India may I can order it on linked Hello and welcome.
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I'm solo Merothrokaport. This is Doctor versus Internet and today
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on this episode, we are going to solve all your
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problems related to acne, to pimple, to what your skin
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really feels like. And no, this is not just for women,
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This is not just for men who care about grooming.
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But this is for everybody to get a basic understanding
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of what is right and wrong and how skin, the
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largest organ in your body, response to different things like
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response to your hormones, like response to your gut as well.
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But before I go anywhere in this podcast, by the way,
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that how videos banare wake timeline Algoji barbar So. Having
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said that, let's open this conversation and joining me today
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for this is doctor Jusha Batya Serene. She's an mbbs MD.
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She's got her diploma in allergy from Germany. She's also
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gone to London to get her MRCP and she's a
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second generation domat so kun meher. Okay, right, j Yeah,
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welcome to doctor versus Internet, and I hope this will
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be a very clean and clear conversation. Can I call
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it that? Absolutely, doctor Jusha. I think let's start with
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understanding the basics. A lot of people today don't know
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the difference between an acne and a pimple. The basic
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knowledge b naihe asantar rika he of course.
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Speaker 2: And before I start podcast about interesting Nama doctor versus Internet,
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Jame pimple or acne terms actually both confusing your Internet
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give so it's a very valid name. But I want
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to tell people that you consumers Internet consumer part Internet
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bare houses product its story banaker against. We want to
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be with people. So you know it is doctor with
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people versus Internet that you can't put your.
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Speaker 1: Right because Internet problems. Hey products here. I remember when
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I was a teenager any Internet. Every time every weekend
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there would be a new ad product for a new shampoo,
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and you thought, hey, trier and that trying is what
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you know, really kills your skin sometime. So let's that's
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why I'm saying this is going to be educational because
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we will come down to the basics, we'll understand essential.
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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, so, so pimple, pimple, pimple life, mad with pimple, likin,
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pimp Mara genetics, Mary body inflammation, children, Mary skin inflammation children,
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mirror oil, kit Man, Marry hormones, Mary oil, interracy, faser bar.
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That is a medical condition called acne, vulgaris, vulgaris with
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a common It's a very common condition. Acne. Actually at
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their Greek words just just compel acme many many, many
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years ago. You know, Joe Books medic a point peak
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to job a translated Latin for English. Acne bana reminds
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me of a skincare and a cosmetic brand. But all
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of us can relate us. Yeah, so just to suffer.
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Speaker 1: Which brand?
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Speaker 2: So pimple valgaris he acord were both interesting cheese ekothi,
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acney prone, skinky inky skin p Barbara pimple or equi
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lifestyle k affect much You're born with a skin that
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can make you acney prone or not acne prone. Yeah,
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agri akne, prune skin he or hormones b Gerbert karka
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Mary skin pey hormones, who skin Pickerbert Kka McCarthy, sugar
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mad mary started triggers pimple home hm so a lot
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of people have acne prone skin. They can skin pick
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up with pimple but h hey acne prone heirs skin
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skin acme pronek genetics p depend ok skin acne prone
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he some JK acney. You teenagers may start with the
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both commons and hormones change over exlu the but hormone
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Kirk hormone Gerbert k up car hormone patients, doctor, it's
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not clean, your parents be shock sugar baniltis dairy or
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to a genetics decide. Hormones k APKE receptors do have
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oil glands aka tala ap hormones AP oil glance coling
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oil SAP hormones fluctuate too. Q receptors have a sensitive
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hormones k p S hormone receptor by rise can so
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most people with dry skin have no tendency of acne,
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which is why toyejo oil nickel culprit. It's not the
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only culprit, but it's a big culprit. Oil fust skin
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dead skin cells be first skin hair for likle may
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oil first dead skins, first skin take natural bacteria out
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there called QT bacteria, magnes licans, environment milia, gronka too
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a body bacteria, inflammatory cells, ju pus or you there
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amari body reaction to that bacterial overgrowth, which.
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Speaker 1: Is interesting to Yeah. So once we can do nothing
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about it. So we are born with it. You're born
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with it.
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Speaker 2: You're born with acne prone skin. But Anna correct was
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given my first orial medicine because it was so much
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and I was always a person who was fit into activities.
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I was a player, but I was not obi or overweight.
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I was given oral biger simple doctor nadala, but confidence
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restore to be very honest. Yeah, but patients most days
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have spectacular skin to patients doctor, Yeah so.
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Speaker 1: Last week. Yeah, but pimples we may and I'm assuming
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that different pimples will require different kinds of treatment, different
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ane body treatment because hurricane triker thing to cast quit
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pimple tap. I mean, there is so much that is
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out there. How do you identify what pimple? Do you
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have both the both the important question in fact, as
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doctors pe pimple type clinically diagnosed the.
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Speaker 2: Target. So you know with simple bar jong think pimple
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and Liman language may mile, moderate or severe mild job
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up ye hair follicle or yep oil glands, oil LANs
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hair follicles individually oil l kin to c l a
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pimple hair follicle. Can there a bit of oil la
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yah jack up yejo oil and oxidize atmosphere oxygen give
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jesse apple cart to oil color is caul and blackhead
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joe stripes a dictor yafir stripes the dictor yea blackheads
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kabi kabi yes skin k under skup skinky covering under
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oil a whitehead. It's massive oil a so g black
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heads or whiteheads. Yes, you said bacteria, iron body in inflammation,
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so a first stage with the aniki.
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Speaker 1: But if this is just oil, when you squeeze it,
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which is very satisfying, very wrong to do, very satisfying,
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it doesn't come out as oil.
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Speaker 2: It comes out as a solid substance yellow jo hair oil.
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The oil that is exactly what it is old sea
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boom ca. So it's not just oil. It is a
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mixture of oil and cellular debris to cellular debriskett. It
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was quite mixture. There's some sea boom get the cat
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it So it is not oil oil up can't maybe
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ear wax, but that's not the same as this oil.
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Speaker 1: Right to their different oil fascinating.
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Speaker 2: Right and job is white head black head pey your
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bacteria tabga pass to both common condition or job in
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la inflammation of jasanga jule puss hm hm to yes
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have different stages or finally.
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Speaker 1: Will all pimples start with the black head?
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Speaker 2: Some people only have blackheads? Writers back to the g.
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Speaker 1: Or wo subka.
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Speaker 2: Back to the same type, but back who actually as
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produce jug same skin. Pey to our good bacteria, he
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too is bad bacteria grow you know. So it is
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a competition over cleansing. Makaruk the oil, but a good
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back to the to our good back to the bad
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battery the proliferate jagimill so ye jub back toot deep
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broker if you're oil under a oil notulen right, so
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this is a not youle. This is the most severe
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form of acne generally normally under problem.
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Speaker 1: Painful.
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Speaker 2: It's very painful. It's very painful and has a lot
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of tendency to give you pits. Yes, you know, but
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most patients will have a combination. There's no black head.
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He putch white head a red, which red bina past
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This is the most common type of acne.
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Speaker 1: Good lord. Yeah, So what I'm taking away from this
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is that a getting pimples on your face might not
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be a factor of what you're doing wrong. Yeah, it
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could largely be defined by genetics. That's number one. Yes.
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Second I'm taking away is that it's treatable if you're
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getting like an army of it, like a tsunami of
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it on your face, which is basically when it becomes acne,
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that's when medical intervention is required. Am I correct to
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say that? Yes?
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Speaker 2: But then you medical intervention Kblin, You know doctor pimple
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chill personality because we treat for ourselves. We don't treat
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for other people. Made psycho the ache white because s
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a job demand the spectacular skin or nonchalant behavior. In Marx,
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yes to substages color treatment. The Marx marks are like residue,
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chood gear, jobbibi, Indian skin, pey brown skin, pichot ane
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to in fact a graphs of sutri markup Q because
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mark make your head color producing cells or selsby active,
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which is their stimulus color. Urban ange the sunscreen the
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sid their shielded from UV exposure. To stimulus name.
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Speaker 1: Correct.
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Speaker 2: So sunscreen goes a long way for Marx or at
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marks could dissolve connectly.
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Speaker 1: But ko by sunscreen or a particular kind of sunscreen.
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Speaker 2: Joby sunscreen up lak suit Katie. You know article India
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gazet of India may sunscreen ky in vivo testing, Kana India.
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What is that in vivo testing live skin pit test.
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You can just do it in a lab or a
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you know, fancy gadgets get throw up the test or
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espefilic market bay page there. That's not allowed anymore vivo testing,
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corney and your actual humans can pay. Why so Senna,
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as consumers, as doctors confidence burden in sunscreens pay thanks
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to this change that the government made in strat test
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today is a doctor text to person there.
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Speaker 1: You use it and use it regularly, use agular. That's
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that's but I mean it's impossible unless you're like a
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celebrity and it is somebody else's job to en short
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ki sunscreen. It's just impossible.
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Speaker 2: I completely agree to your point or spir child. I'm
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long lasting sunscreens, but because they in practical issue here,
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I will not deny that or important party you know,
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to boost up their confidence and to look the way
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they desire to or but yes, just at least do
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it between ten a m. To two pm? Does you
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index char so do it once. If you want to
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do it, do it smartly.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but let's move back to pimples for a little
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bit and understand, like I said, key black head of
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white heads as they progress depending on how you know
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in depth bacteria is like you explained to treatment, do
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you have some easy sort of chemist truck store you know,
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solutions that people can go to.
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Speaker 2: So other er let's say black head are white head?
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To you dissolve salasilic acid Sala selic acid acid is
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oil could dissolve right, government they make salasilic acid face
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was launch the actually launches best trend to sala silic
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acid face wash up available, but for them it is
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it is a pharmacy product. Okay, but bought her over
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the counter Sala selic acid face washes to uper oil
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uper then, but understand that face wash sif uperk oil
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and pura Upke hair follicle Mahir oil clocked to the
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salicelic acid serum wi skin because face washes rings off
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if after two minutes so that's why doctor Si Salasli
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face washing the serum deep conjayaga face wash salasilic acid
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serrum that two percent salasic one percent salacilic serum.
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Speaker 1: To the black and white.
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Speaker 2: That k A look at the doctor internet the information
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oil bahar nickel ray to woe actually back to the
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red blackhead white pimple, which is why I'm subky body
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different to s any salasl sup key problems so vers right.
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In fact, overdoing sala celic acid is also possible, and
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that destroys your skin because though about oil skin co
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hydrate skin cells and bricksment oil roll player sement to
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just get a barrier compromise, Skinka, you know the problems
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are the solve oil factory on the in fact body
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dry skin or.
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Speaker 1: So it is.
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Speaker 2: It is, it is very nuanced. Acne is not so simple.
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Speaker 1: Pimple.
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Speaker 2: Okay, it's so, but would just cover simple solution yea,
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before you meet a doctor apic salaicelic acid face wash,
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salaelic acid sum black is white right an hur Joe
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Joe pas papula red val pas val. Just say, let's
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take this for an example, type so jes bacteria top
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qu anti bacterial, ChIL antibatic trio Khanka who is the
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artical face washes, maybe antibatic, but yeah, if salaceelic acids oil.
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So there are molecules like clinder mice in one percent
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gel cleindermiz and phosphate. This' benzol peroxide, so something like
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clinder macon with niacin and mind. But usually these doctors
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will write for you because problem India of the US
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resistance antibatic of or research is not pimple's birth there
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to research the antibiotics paid those right, So con arp
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is call judicially use.
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Speaker 1: MHM is not so easily available over the counter. Like
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I remember in my teenage, hes kindom icen used to
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be such a thing just to bed, and.
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Speaker 2: Now you've become resistant. I didn't know this is an antibiotic.
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That's cleander myset is an antibatic. Similarly, just a p antibotic.
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Just use resistance curlier or community resistance, so antibiotics, so
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it's called less seriously nil gotage.
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Speaker 1: That's good information.
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Speaker 2: Similarly, you know there are there's benzal peroxide, clendom icein pena, cinema,
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benzoald prooxi plain clinder mycenc through resistance a Benzold lick
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in clinder to be paroxy a resistance the antibatch, but
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a smarter battery, but a smarter STEPNA modified earlier antibaticamenia
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party a substance bacteria just gonna get the biofilm or
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up the battery charge a biofilm up his biofilm. Whose
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blanket coom he's a fort fort banad benzeor peroxide. Yeah,
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just get through for clinder man there. Yeah, so then
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discovery resistance thankfully, but we don't know, we don't know
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the bacteria how many paka.
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Speaker 1: So this is a good time to remind everybody watching
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information J Taling please have the dormit some j but
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this is good information to have so that you don't
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releast abuse. Yeah right right.
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Speaker 2: So ideally, idally three months is are the antiba or
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s beach beach That is when your doctor decides when
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to stop and one not to because podcast correct Kisco indicated.
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You know, that's what the degree is all about. Finally,
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at the you know, nodule this deep we have, like
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I said, we have to give oral antibiotics. I'm an
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oral is ret, which is a retinoid retinoids the important
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party both the interesting be because retinoids jessic retinol, retinol
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thretenoid adaptline the antiaging but actually ichnically discover with correct
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in antiaging just you know, discover who actually anti salar
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off flabel Yeah, salo bar doctor s that is how
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it was discovered and co lagendi banat so you know
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threaten oi drug laik this is this is the threatened
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oiin So we bought that percentages. It is USFD approved
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in this concentration route for antiaging and also for acne. Right,
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so retinol is not approved for antiaging. Retinal is not approoved.
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This is approved because you drying O t A. So
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you're again it's a prescription strength molecule. Everywhere in the world.
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You can't buy it without a doctor's prescription. Also because
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it's extremely unsafe for pregnant women, so in fact, not
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just pregnant women, women who are planning a pregnant you'll
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go coach man I see lose yeah, and that part
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is but important.
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Speaker 1: And India, it's a on Instagram people are making reals
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about thattoid pains and people are just following it.
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Speaker 2: They have They have written a disclaimer in the caption,
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but who reads it? Who reads the caption in the
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in the in the caption if you put a disclaimer.
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Speaker 1: And for pregnant women, is it only for thretonoid or
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is it for retinol and retinals as well? Both? All?
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Speaker 2: Wow, retino is not safe in pregnancy.
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Speaker 1: So even if you're planning a pregnancy, if you're planning
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to conceive, you need to stop your usage of MS
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before conceiving and retinas as well. Hundred percent. I don't
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think people know a lot of people don't know that.
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And I have had patients you know, LA and then
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and gclogist, how many but up the domat and doctor Sorry,
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I'm what do I say?
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Speaker 2: Medically it's not safe. Legally it's not safe, and we
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have I have had patients where they have decided to
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abort theildren because just because they didn't know and they've
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been on tretnoin so, so what can it do? Actually,
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so a retinoid category X medication and a bill cool contraindicated.
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It can lead to cardiovascular problems in the baby. It
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can cause limb development, a problem limbs totebuns that they
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have boneabuns at TNK. It can cause eye problem, neurological problem,
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or causes a lot of problem because it's a high
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dose of vitamin A. It's a different strength of vitamin A.
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So yes, the problems with the air and which is
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why it's category X.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and regular people if they are using it
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like on a daily basis side effects.
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Speaker 2: So it does not affect a fertility, So future pregnancy
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is not a problem. Her cheesecake time before just came
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wash off period, get there, oralizer tread carrio the maximum
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six months, may would drop purr wash out the safely
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plant carst there six months or six months six months? Wow,
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goot stronger ritin wiz zoto maximas may bodies so color storia.
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Like I have taken isotretinoid in three cycles in my life. No, no, Niki.
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But after I've taken my last do that stopped it
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planned My family had my baby, breastfed her, you know,
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then started topical retinoids again. So future pregnancy is not
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a problem. You bought young parents cut be a young
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girls parents fertility effect, but my problem. No, Let's make
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it very clear. In the US, it is compulsory to
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sign a consent form and consent mich up double contraception
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use kind of while you're on the drug. A girp
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of patients signed the white doctor lick there of Perruko
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pharmacy similar.
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Speaker 1: Double contracept double country. Yeah you can't say sorry, just
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cannot risk getting Yeah. Yeah, that's isodrette for us, so
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risk or up doctor and boards there a doubt Internet
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tretin and topical retinoids. Colaker her she's doctor sip pigber clearture.
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That's why you're taking What I was reading is that
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in the US they have and UK maybe in fact
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there's a regulatory history and they have changed the usage completely.
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They're saying there will now be a monitored protocol on
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who's taking retinas or retinals or even tretenoiins for that matter.
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And India, may I can order it on linked it.
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Yeah that is I'm gonna get it on any of
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the apps online and in ten minutes that's going to
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be available. But that's how dangerous it is.
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Speaker 2: But you know, the owners doesn't lie on the consumer
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or a doctor. The owners lies on the bodies regulating
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these and that's where are they. Availability has to be,
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it has to be curbed. You can't just sell it
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like that. So you know, a retinol zero point one
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percent uper you cannot take without a prescription. So India
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creators and when a retinol you came a banoga because
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it's dangerous, and they started selling their own products. The
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incomplete information retinol point that is that because they're mindful
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of it, retinol higher percentage, doctor, it is not banned.
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It is banned over the counter.
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Speaker 1: Correct, correct, But help me understand this is somebody who's
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not planning a family still using because what people tell
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me is that it is still like the gold standard
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for holy grail. It's holy grail for pimples, right, and
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yet you have to be mindful of the impact is
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kakoi impact or side effects for even those who are
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regular citizens or perhaps not planning pregnancy.
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Speaker 2: So topical retinoids drynessic potential to use Karna doctors probably
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karnak goli side effects up there. You know, there are
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people who have mental health issuesku depressively anxiety symptoms. There's
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a chance that they are aggravated. There's a chance other
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mood swings, homey, suicidal thoughts. Anxiety patients go kisikul liver
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diseases with the fatty liver kleistol off the charts is
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bigar sakti against. The side effects don't happen in every
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one and every drug has a side effect TOMI risk
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benefit ratio fatty liver, fatty liver grade one patient you
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know somehow somewhere like this sort of acne they have,
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or a nodular acne. But I will not attempt it
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in somebody who has like a couple of pimples, got it.
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Lisko grade three gray two be held to measure isoa
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attempt nakaru to VOI doctor kate judgment depend Then we
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do it with DOE monitoring livert as Barber Karbana Kiska
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liber proofile Barber karban A lean patient might not dead
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rippet profile every now and then, but already they cray
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overweight patient with them is rue and then I will
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give the drug.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so this is heavy. Yeah, and this
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is eye opening. So I'm really glad you sort of
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cleared that out. So while we're on the subject of pimples,
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we keep looking at it from a women's lens. A
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lot of men also face pimple issues. Is it to
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be treated differently or you think the same principles apply.
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Speaker 2: So pimp hormone hormone care and csay hormone hair thyroid.
31:36
You actually made hormone androgens okay to women will be
31:39
androgens come the males to males co severity of acne
31:45
agurhoga to zadahuka, they will develop more silver quequnka. Made
31:51
hormones are the functional oil glands pay hair follicle pay.
31:54
Don't stubley or on. Oil lands are the bad. The
31:59
oils are the bane back to zimple. So when males
32:04
have acne, it is severe, but adult an is more
32:07
common in women because of hormonal fluctuation malest generally after
32:14
teenage years. You know fluctuation your settlement.
32:19
Speaker 1: But the same caveat will apply that if treatment is.
32:21
Speaker 2: More or less the same grade of Acnega got it.
32:25
Speaker 1: But in Kobe, if they're planning a family, should they
32:29
stop using it?
32:30
Speaker 2: No, as in he isotretinoid. But if some male wants
32:34
to do it, we can do it, okay. So it
32:37
only has an impact on yeah, because it's not it's
32:39
not seen in the semen or it has no effect
32:41
on sperms. So which is why it is not indicated
32:44
that you stop isotretinoid oral isotretoid if you're planning a
32:47
family for males for women. Again, like I said, o
32:50
problem problem, pro problem, but charge of banega.
32:56
Speaker 1: Problem. Okay, okay, But talking of what should be on
33:01
your scale, we live in times when every day there
33:06
is a new product that is being propagated on the
33:08
internet as something that will solve all your skin care problems.
33:12
Nicinamide has become very famous in household wastromioctical giant subkey
33:18
pass retinolic, nicinamite e, quvitamin C or equald skin barrier. Right.
33:25
I think people often confuse and don't understand what is
33:29
not to be mixed. Would you say that there are
33:32
certain combinations which are not mixed and can lead to
33:36
more acne.
33:37
Speaker 2: Of course, you can't mix alpha hydroxy acids is a
33:39
glycolic acid with retroinol on the same day. You can
33:43
do them alternate days, y exubasha, but you can mix
33:45
another on the same day. Skin oil depends nacid tolerate,
33:50
you know, retino la alpha drog glycolic put a dry
33:55
o draga skin to frol bannega. So you can't. You
33:58
can't use vitamin C with with alphydroxy acid at the
34:02
same time. They're both as a dick for skin. You know,
34:04
you can mix them together. You can't use benzoil peroxide
34:07
with salaceelic acid. Benzol peroxide doesn't let salicelic work, so
34:12
a wash make sm use. But a combined AQ per layer,
34:17
you know, soyato activity a skin tolerting kerpaiga.
34:22
Speaker 1: And vitamins C people, I mean, research says it's very,
34:26
very important, but on acne prone skin.
34:29
Speaker 2: So you know when we were when we talk about
34:32
vitamin C, it's mainly an antioxidant, like it was telling
34:35
you in the past. So it is a very good
34:36
for antiaging. But to say it's very good for acne
34:39
is not true. Both about pigmentation. Help Katie. But vitamin
34:43
C irritate cur pimples. Be theyta top vitamin C acneka
34:50
MARCTI pimp you chasing your own tail. Yeah, so vitamin
34:54
C is not one of the fabulous molecules for acne
34:56
prone skin. I'd rather use an I a cinamid because
35:00
be antioxident to BA. Vitamin C is a coffee week.
35:02
But what actually trigger Ningrea? Throw about oil balanced But
35:07
it's not like celebrity molecule but superstar performance.
35:13
Speaker 1: What is it that you are using on your skin
35:14
these days?
35:15
Speaker 2: So I cannot do without benzal peroxide. I have to
35:18
use it as a face wash because I have acne
35:20
prone skin. I have been on trifor routine for like
35:24
since after I've stopped nursing my child, I've been on
35:28
retinoid t. I use a daily power defense out there
35:33
by this brand called Zero. It's a it's a very
35:36
expensive molecule, but I use it for anti aging apart
35:39
from using my retinoidsblat you, So, but it's like very expensive.
35:43
Not everybody needs to do it. I do it because
35:45
availability Ojai or my Supwutch tri Trekat. I use exo
35:49
zoom based moisturizer also, so exo zooms are a very
35:52
recent in dermatology. So I'm kind of a guinea pig
35:55
before I write it to my patients.
35:57
Speaker 1: But also tell me what are the things that one
35:59
should never apply on the face.
36:03
Speaker 2: Oh, my god, list skintrayo tho. I would suggest anything
36:10
with a lot of fragrance, fragrance or doctor steroids bought,
36:20
you know, brightening effect the treatment to actually doctor, but
36:24
also blanched.
36:42
Speaker 1: Or but lo di I y looks apply like somebody
36:49
will put like raw garlic, or somebody will put lemon,
36:52
or somebody will put haldi and nim stuff like that.
36:56
Does it have any value or are we just again
37:00
just so again doing it because.
37:03
Speaker 2: So you know we'll understand against science. K Hamid dry
37:07
pimple good right oil co to ko paste and claymy
37:12
which is Fueller's earth sandal wood paste is a paste
37:16
to paste drying the right dry la superficial oil control
37:24
cart but was solution Yaknika thought about temporarily for some
37:28
mill set take hal anti inflamatory molecules. But my hasaro
37:32
or she's a German, so anti krima you know k
37:37
extract chant inflammatory cuman.
37:40
Speaker 1: Just get the right exactly so so you know you
37:45
can just buy so many caffeine products are out there, yes, yes,
37:48
and you know it's such a in u k.
37:50
Speaker 2: This turmeric la is such a such a rage. You
37:54
go and cafes in there sell you five pounds turmeric la.
38:00
So because these extremely good beneficial for your skin, but
38:03
or really don't apply it, consume it, got it, got it,
38:07
But no, no no acids on your skin, like no potatoes, tomatoes, lemons,
38:10
for God's sake, because our may app was acidarius pe
38:17
so extractor, Cha, you're not.
38:19
Speaker 1: The molecule.
38:22
Speaker 2: Is tomato, make noxalic acid is make it a percentage.
38:28
Speaker 1: So eat your skin care eat eat is a carn cheese. Yeah. Ultimately,
38:33
is it correct to say, then should we move towards
38:36
not just treatment of acne, but to prevention of acne? Right,
38:40
let's move on to that because from what I understand
38:43
what I read, also, what you why you get acne
38:48
has got little to do with what you're applying, but
38:50
more to do with what you're eating. Right, we are
38:53
what we eat, and that's what's leading to gut is shoes,
38:56
and that's what leading to inflammation. That's what leading to
38:59
hormones doing a funny dance in your body and just
39:02
being out of control. So what is a good way
39:07
to understand food versus skin.
39:10
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of research that goes into how
39:12
diet affects acne, A lot of research, Like you can't
39:15
even fathom the amount of research there is, but anecdotal evidence.
39:24
Speaker 1: Hindi what do you say, and I don't know.
39:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, that this is anecdotal evidence, so it's kind of
39:39
medicine by both come value where okay, just a YAK
39:50
larger population because this is anecdotal levitance, but a larger
39:59
popular may reflect Look at oil food evidence in larger studies.
40:07
Speaker 1: I want you to stress upon because you know oil
40:12
consume face for all relationship. Yes, that is true.
40:19
Speaker 2: That we're not saying doctor, meta analytic data studies in
40:28
larger population, our own studies cob be combined. That is
40:30
great one evidence, just some meta analysis get there right
40:34
or woe evidence prove here we have a lot of evidence,
40:39
just some strong evidence. Get the ak sugar or okay,
40:42
dairy products now dairy maybe Joe way component a way protein,
40:47
wo j Milkha Buffalo milk, maybe Ho Thai cur gi
40:56
or g or oil. That was with the protein problem,
41:00
sop the cap he has good bacteria probiotics.
41:08
Speaker 1: But Hannah, what does that mean for all the wave
41:10
protein supplements.
41:12
Speaker 2: Yes, you to weighs an own cause of acne, theen
41:14
supplements a Joe acne cart WYCHAVO concentrator isolate tora come chances.
41:21
But we can obviously discuss if you want to don't
41:23
make our difference. They concentrate away, isolate those habitamin be
41:27
twelve supplements or tisra hair biotin judo for ha for
41:34
hair that gives acne, that gives a lot of acne
41:36
to a lot of patients. Again, it's not everybody biotiny
41:41
gummy the sugar be a B A B or a
41:45
biote and biotinemi or akuacne hura. It could be possible trigger,
41:50
so he's triggered. In Chizok evidence the way definitely milk
41:56
ena that is problematic or am bodyman an I g
42:01
F one in sooner like growth factor one K do
42:04
directly olans co stimulate art.
42:07
Speaker 1: Got it, But Joel, we say intolerant. For example, I'm
42:12
intolerant towards milk because I'm intolerant. That's why I will
42:16
get a breakout. Or I could be easily my gut
42:19
could be easily accepting way, but I'll still get a breakout.
42:23
Speaker 2: Again, we make a problem the way isolate away concentrate
42:27
concentrate may just way extracted isolate coor isolate to way
42:33
or isolated protein CO content towards others lactose correct So
42:37
you know, but hey, soot isolate better suit krega.
42:43
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
42:44
Speaker 2: I g F one coul trigger the protein from my
42:46
way to Hannah.
42:50
Speaker 1: But sub I see, yeah, I see.
42:56
Speaker 2: So how do I know?
42:58
Speaker 1: We bother karake acne?
43:02
Speaker 2: So it is a both look confused with the acne
43:05
or there is a condition called acne form eruption. But
43:09
case my black heads white heads acne form eruption of them.
43:14
But yeapules, yeah, pustules put his back, put his face,
43:20
black heads white activeform eruption. Waste it generally back pimples,
43:30
face by pimples. It could be a possible trigger. You know,
43:35
person again, I have acne constant. So problem there to
43:44
switch to plant protein. You have so many good plant
43:47
proteins nowadays?
43:48
Speaker 1: Got it? Because that how do you know that what
43:53
is causing acne? Because you know, in the course of
43:55
this podcast, I want to be able to solve that
43:58
question for them. What is green your acne? You should
44:01
be able to tell.
44:04
Speaker 2: A body may hormones fluctuate, Males may teenagers, may bioga,
44:09
women may the coca to say adult tons and jadas
44:11
other women KA give you fluctuat. Hormones fluctuate oil, lansco
44:17
or nicola, oil ye oil dead skins, milkeric environment, banata
44:21
ja bacteria or groker the body, the inflammation kia or
44:26
banya pimple jam patients could tek them generally hormone could
44:30
give a fluctuate right hum oil co control the oil
44:37
control the bactery cocaname to you the normal pathway agar
44:45
koe b cheesy hormone cob yea for oil pimple hormone
44:50
cot stress time, though akakad platts was terroid hormone. Hormone
45:05
is not off the charts. Anaga y conchies oil pollution, sugar,
45:13
milk right or supplements, wave protein between beat twelve biotin supplements.
45:19
In fact wrong skin care products just can go or
45:21
oil date. The acne have black and whiters are cleansing
45:26
bombs or cleansing oil use oil cleansing balm to woo
45:34
or low cleansing balms use for stem acnemire but missed
45:38
children and to glow the theat content to so much
45:43
lowe you glo tie yeah face the tail.
45:47
Speaker 1: I think that's probably one of the main issues with
45:51
Korean products as well, because in Korea their skin is
45:54
naturally so dry that I meant to soots them. But
45:58
with us that's not the case.
45:59
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly clear. So yes, A triggers you know, sugar,
46:03
dairy stress pollution, or your extra hormones with pc OD
46:07
or just pm O s get the sail carden through them.
46:10
A problem supplements that you take the products that you apply.
46:13
But yeah, main cast triggers.
46:16
Speaker 1: It may say.
46:18
Speaker 2: He is a peak b A to be normal hormones.
46:20
Speaker 1: To acnilyze that the you're saying, yeah, these can be triggers,
46:23
not the cause. Yeah, my love.
46:27
Speaker 2: Ane prone hear oil co controlled let's say retinoids some
46:30
controlled tomorrow less like AGAs retinoid oil control careo. But
46:36
sugars are the carreo to oil co retinoid combat nagar
46:39
pie right or you about genetics cory doctor proto mmm,
46:49
So they have to go hand in hand.
46:51
Speaker 1: Okay, So whase one, let's talk about sugar. What exactly
46:55
is sugar doing to my skin? This happens with me
46:58
all the time. I am somebody who does not consume
47:00
a lot of sugar, but every now and then if
47:03
I indulge, especially a festival season, hey winters, which of
47:08
my mom is here and she's making a really yummy
47:10
you know, sugary you know, delights and treats. I end
47:14
up getting acne. But the question I asked myself is key.
47:17
But with the sugar in fact, but complan and bonn
47:22
beta bar period. It's just compared to the amount of
47:26
sugar I was eating as a kid cut too. Now
47:29
it's nothing. Yeah, and yet this is giving me acne.
47:32
I find it different, you know, very difficult to comprehend.
47:35
Speaker 2: So compliment Peter there, what age are you talking about?
47:41
Till in my twenties that I discovered I was okay,
47:45
So twenty. Like I said, sugar is one trigger. There
47:50
are other triggers. A stress abaka, pollution levels, right, rhythm,
47:56
but you have a you have a daughter who's small,
48:00
so your sleep cycle is impacted, stressive work pressure, be hair.
48:04
But you also have a personal life pressure which is
48:07
from your you know, mental managing your kid. So all
48:09
of these accumulate. So we just cannot blame sugar problem,
48:13
but sugar but boody problems triggers. So like I've it's
48:23
been monster, I've left sugar. But difference beneen the honestly
48:29
can from studies, we know that impact THEA. So you know,
48:35
if because I believe in evidence based medicine, my data,
48:38
my belief.
48:41
Speaker 1: Sugar with me is instant. Yeah, Okay. My Achilles heel
48:45
is that I love a good peanut butter shake. Okay. Yeah,
48:49
And every weekend I've decided to have that peanut butter shake,
48:52
even if I'm making it at home. Yeah, even if
48:54
the peanut butter has no sugar, because but I'll still
48:56
add some monk fruit or I'll add like something to it. Yeah,
48:59
it's just flares up. Yeah, It's like I've seen it
49:02
like weekend after week and every Monday morning, there you go.
49:05
Speaker 2: And that's how Also different people are differently, you know,
49:08
like I was telling you about this patio who tells
49:09
me I have acne because of almonds. So there are
49:11
particular inflammatory pathways. Is other active which may come active.
49:16
Sugar is the other problems that they compared to me.
49:18
You know mango because mango is high glycemic food. So
49:25
the individual differences anita SIMPLESI mana prescription lika or abadi
49:32
or subtic, but yeah, kinda subka treatment.
49:38
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when you say stress is a trigger, is
49:41
that the reason why exam time all of us would
49:43
lose our hair and get a.
49:45
Speaker 2: Absolutely one hundred percent. It messes up. Stress messes up
49:49
not just with hormones. It also itself is a trigger
49:52
inflammation trigger art. It also disturbs your sleep to a
49:55
trigger trigger or kobe. You know you you also eat
49:59
more sugar. You would tend to with more chocolates just
50:01
to I for instant relief, to stress, China.
50:08
Speaker 1: To acne bar food items which are good for your skin.
50:15
Perhaps that will let pimples not you know surface.
50:20
Speaker 2: So at Instagram sag Instagram kata, we have again less
50:29
data to believe, you know acneko inflammation, zinc it molecular
50:38
elemented Joe anti inflammatory, but quantities ticket pumpkin seeds, Carlo Jaga,
50:46
but Anko solution and NaIO supportive to kind of healthy
50:51
kana up healthy cow Our pumpkin doesn't match right that
51:00
sugarpa healthy like healthy particular food for Instagram.
51:16
Speaker 1: But a lot of celebrities also endorse these green teas.
51:18
It's supposed to cleanse your stain and cleanse your body.
51:21
Does that happen?
51:22
Speaker 2: So green TQ famous green the catkins or epigallow catkins,
51:29
molecules antioxidants take oxidation, Hamaray pollutants has sulphidser oxides, gammary
51:38
factory subsic vehicles, synical yea, Hammari skin co oxidize, take
51:43
Hammara den oxidize Hammara melanine, oxidize the h my pigment
51:49
are take to other antioxidants Hey Hammari diet may, Hammari
51:53
drinks me, Hammari skin care, may to woke who the
51:56
oxid they take the brunt to f I and Hamaribu
52:00
skin co oxidize ticke, green tea again green tipilo. It's
52:05
an antioxidan, but it is supportive. So you can't say
52:08
green tea, skin clearora. But yes, I rather than taking
52:12
tea which has sugar and which has milk, I take
52:14
green tea. So it is a better alternative. Got it
52:17
so you know, because it's providing me antioxidants.
52:20
Speaker 1: So like green tea. If you had to add five
52:23
things to your daily routine which are not out of
52:26
the box, which your skin will generally love, what would
52:29
those be?
52:31
Speaker 2: I would say a handful of nut severatage and could
52:33
tolerate ticke, minerals, vitamens, come seconthenia at your fresh fruits
52:38
like whole fiber ticket and it's very simple. What I
52:41
do is at least banana khalia, take a rka filled
52:46
of breakfast, pomegranate, lilia and apple pear char ticket. You
52:57
can so hold fiber of fruit. This is what because
53:00
I'm antioxidant start they skin metket or kobe red yellow
53:04
green colors antioxiden is. Barber, take a fruit for me
53:08
and a lot of protein, A lot of protein. Ham
53:12
balket in a hard keratin, Hamara's skin soft keratin and
53:15
nails hard keratin. A his keratin is a protein Hamara skin.
53:18
Barberke collage elast and I just came dono protein to
53:23
draw material the body. You know, expect protein near the body,
53:28
romatil cars I m.
53:29
Speaker 1: HM deficiencies we have body can the vitaminski Joe aki
53:36
skin coo acn pron.
53:39
Speaker 2: Like we were discussing zincy deficiency. But it's very difficult
53:43
to identify like that. To test up there tests zinca
53:48
test from mang out there from test they called alkalin
53:51
and phosphoo taste can a proxy test a zinca patients
53:56
ca but peaks a port of road tablet k doctor
54:01
ham supplements ye replica vitamin D. Vitamin D again is
54:10
a hormone. Actually it's not just a vitamin, it's also
54:13
hormone and a data. But there yak inflammatory pathway.
54:24
Speaker 1: Diet ma. Right, So let me rewind a little bit.
54:30
Let me try and understand from everything that you've told
54:33
me about acting so far, if I'm somebody who's seeing
54:37
on and off breakout, I'll give you my example. I
54:40
am generally someone who has clear skin, but I had
54:44
a holiday, I went and had lots of mangos, and
54:46
ever since then, bacteria has made home on my face.
54:50
It's not leaving. And again I've gotten on this entire
54:53
treatment of tetano and I'm trying to talk about it.
54:56
Amic comments section with mentioning how I'm getting pimple. I'm
55:00
getting pimple is because of all the mangoes that a
55:03
lot of people must be facing the same issue as well.
55:05
If you spot pimples, or if you spot like a
55:08
cluster of pimples, what is the first step that I
55:10
should take?
55:12
Speaker 2: I would say the most basic thing you can do
55:14
is actually go to a doctrine, get an antibatic routine
55:16
for yourself, like la antibatic not Khanika that will mostly
55:19
settle it again. We are worried about the resistance. Sabi
55:22
doctor get passed, Kansa consan antibatic. The doctor decid licin
55:30
acne is all about prevention because he is in the gibbaret.
55:33
The commons fluxed when I was little. Ticket to yes,
55:53
And then there is menopause. Mepau is another issue altogether,
55:57
or menopause. Maybe give your homoslf suctu. Acne is about prevention,
56:06
prevented retinoid, retinoid oil cup production exactly wrong oiretenoid except
56:18
for when you plan a pregnancy aoid thanks to retinoids.
56:26
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you find a good retinoid that works
56:29
for you, Yeah, what is a good way to apply
56:32
is it? If you're saying use it regularly, does that
56:35
mean mix it with your mosturizer, apply it every day
56:37
morning evening? Like, how do you use it?
56:39
Speaker 2: So? Retinoid may tinoids, adaptlne thretenoid trif routine general mike
56:48
uh adaplines are the softer tret stronger TRYF routine subs
56:52
is strong zero point zero two five percent. Pretenoid is
56:57
USFD approof for acne A moisture of mixed percenters to
57:01
dilute toga to strength com kurdi treno and mixed cake
57:17
points route to woudruki strength tickea hote permists can co
57:26
orretoid de penetrating jud drnavat is sandwich, but a p
57:37
sized quantity except for around the eyes, around the corners
57:40
of nose, around mouth parts absorb moist last.
57:49
Speaker 1: Lips paga. So this is the way to use a retchnoi.
57:52
It is not a topical treatment. It has to be
57:55
spread because of prevention. Could take her the like can
58:00
oilhabandry or mple. So is it any fun mental traumaimp
58:07
prevent karoshi aslik pimplea.
58:11
Speaker 2: Fun is not treating it. Fun is preventing it.
58:13
Speaker 1: That's true, Which brings me to if we've covered quite
58:16
a bit, and it's been quite an eye opening podcast
58:19
for me, I'm really loving it. So let me come
58:21
to one of the things that we do on the show.
58:23
It's called take it or trash it. Yeah, I'm gonna
58:26
throw some items at you and you have to tell
58:30
me whether they work or they don't work. Okay, okay,
58:33
So this is taking or trash it pimple. Addition, all
58:36
right nice in the mind. Take it. Retinol, take it, please,
58:41
give it to me. T tree oil leave it. So
58:47
you mean trash it.
58:48
Speaker 2: Trash it partially true because it is an allergen. T
58:52
tree oil is a known allergen and also an irritant.
58:55
So if it doesn't suit you well, or you have
58:57
a facewash which has T tri oil and it's kind
58:59
of reacting, it could be the.
59:00
Speaker 1: Culprit and it's oil. At the end of the day,
59:02
how is that really treating?
59:03
Speaker 2: Yes, basically te tree only with a whod amount of
59:06
salasilic behote you know, see salasilic b plants here. I
59:09
generally move winter green or instead leaves.
59:11
Speaker 1: Say so, got it. Salasilic acid was my next one.
59:14
Take it or trash it one hundred percent. Take it
59:16
alo vera, take it green tea. Take it honey and
59:21
turmeric mixture that people apply. Leave it toothpaste on pimples,
59:27
leave it for the teeth. Trash it, okay, benzol, peroxide,
59:33
take it, add a filline, take it, alcoholic spirits, scrubbing
59:42
to drink, trash it, azi, layic acid, take it, lemon juice,
59:49
trash it, apple side of vinegar.
59:52
Speaker 2: Trash it.
59:53
Speaker 1: People also apply baking soda.
59:55
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, I know, so anything that is drying,
59:58
you know us. So people are used with saliva and whatnot.
1:00:02
And I was just thinking to myself the other did
1:00:04
a ger gastric acid be available?
1:00:09
Speaker 1: And you know it?
1:00:10
Speaker 2: It is very funny that how much they apply these
1:00:13
drying things on their skin. Okay, pimple patches, take it.
1:00:19
If you have this hber fiddling with your pimple, but
1:00:22
don't expect it to dry, so then you trash it
1:00:25
all right.
1:00:26
Speaker 1: Sunscreen on acne prone skin, take it.
1:00:30
Speaker 2: Choose the right sunscreen.
1:00:32
Speaker 1: Talking about skin and problems that emerge, one thing that
1:00:34
is very common these days, even with teenagers, is something
1:00:38
called strawberry skin. Could you tell us how to avoid
1:00:42
it altogether? I understand it's got to do with the
1:00:45
way hair removal is happening, and then also talk to
1:00:48
us a little bit about the treatment.
1:00:50
Speaker 2: So strawberry skin is an umbrella term. It is the
1:00:53
way skin looks like, you know, the seeds in the strawberry.
1:00:57
But the cause is always not waxing or shaving. It
1:01:00
could also be genetic in nature, just keratosis, pilaris s
1:01:05
follicles and the shaving, vaxing sequi kobiam strawberries can get
1:01:10
there yea genetic isshue or is color discussion or this
1:01:14
you can visit a dermatologist who can coby your problem.
1:01:17
Cannot solve it because it's genetic or you know, like
1:01:20
very recently, I think last year Yummy Gotham, she came
1:01:24
out with this thing that you know, when she does movies,
1:01:26
she's asked to hide it because she has keratosis pilaris,
1:01:28
which is one one one explanation for strawberry skin. And
1:01:31
then she's like, I have stopped treating it because it
1:01:33
doesn't go. So I flaunted and I've told my directors
1:01:36
that this is the way my skin is and we'll
1:01:38
have to do with this. So that's a very you know,
1:01:40
it is a life changing thing for a lot of
1:01:42
young kids who watch it. It's a good thing just
1:01:46
ingrown hair get the Johota is shaving your vaxing boby strawberries, right,
1:01:51
So that is what probably you're talking about, ye Cabe
1:01:55
Jabba barn under follicle, japar route bobial ari death skin
1:02:05
cells encounter that is ingrown hair which leads bumps that
1:02:11
reads took the body, very inflammation, the wa red inflammed infection,
1:02:22
painfule that is in grown hair. So generally exfoliation jasic, balco,
1:02:30
chance oskagar colors should get own deepigmenting creams, A barbari problem.
1:02:39
Vaccine is a problem, plays a reduction, balls a problem,
1:02:42
baal poker. So you have to get rid of the hair.
1:02:46
So for them it's like a medical thing up beauty
1:02:49
k aesthetics, clar reduction. You're doing it because it is
1:02:52
a problem, yeah, you know, or shaving shaving.
1:02:58
Speaker 1: Right, But do you study issues a B. I remember
1:03:01
when we were teenagers, we never had issues. Like somebody
1:03:04
told me that it's got to do with what's going
1:03:07
in our body washes these days? Is that true?
1:03:11
Speaker 2: You know, plausible explanation. I can't think of any but
1:03:14
in fact, body washes lgagical. It's a simple, you know,
1:03:18
moisturizing body washes. So I don't have a reason to
1:03:21
believe your body washes it lufa causing it. So lufah
1:03:26
is overexfoliation. But what strawberry skin naked? It can lead
1:03:30
to more dryness, It can lead to pigmentation over time.
1:03:33
Skin cobar but injured corona to body color, to satisfaction
1:03:37
midudo satisfaction. I'm just getting dark for no reason. I'm
1:03:43
not even stepping out in the sun. It's because you've
1:03:45
been using lufahs all the time.
1:03:46
Speaker 1: Got it? So what's your regular advice to use every day?
1:03:51
Speaker 2: Hearts any bodyco Yeah, these are rough enough, just an expolition.
1:03:59
Nobody needs the body brush or lymphatic drainage. Gott to
1:04:04
be brush. I just say look up now as if
1:04:08
it's a bathroom floor, or say skin pey, okay, okay,
1:04:15
So help me understand this if I want clear skin.
1:04:20
Speaker 1: In order? What are the things I would follow in
1:04:24
terms of the amount of water I take, the food
1:04:27
that I'm eating, the things that I'm applying, and the
1:04:30
amount of stress travel I'm at. In that order, what
1:04:33
would you do.
1:04:36
Speaker 2: Most important? I'll mind the diet because it's in everyday.
1:04:39
Regard themthen barkario to you better eat mindfully, sleep phone like,
1:04:46
try to have a peaceful sleep.
1:04:48
Speaker 1: You know, book.
1:04:52
Speaker 2: Up interesting, book persuctive and trust a perfective. But give
1:04:56
yourself a break so that you sleep peacefully and wake
1:04:59
up at a put two color time every day, Like
1:05:01
I said, because I have a cortazoles peak you Hannah,
1:05:05
how many ja cortos so sleep so your heal lifestyle?
1:05:08
Uh inflammation jovie cut their bodymage, I will gluten who
1:05:12
grouted information cut smoking, smoking inflammatory?
1:05:16
Speaker 1: You have habits fix.
1:05:19
Speaker 2: Any kanako but maybe protein Mexican food, cast antioxidants, be
1:05:26
head just may you know protein be hair just may
1:05:29
vegetables with the cree Lebanese food cow ticket just isabe
1:05:33
mind what you eat, take asleep and eat, then what
1:05:36
you apply. Most of us don't need a c t
1:05:38
M get cleanser, bead done or be a moisturizer. But
1:05:40
we need c MP, which is cleansing, moisturizing and protecting
1:05:43
with the sunscreen. Okay, okay, yeah basic Asari moisturizer suit
1:05:47
ni KNG. Every moisturizer that you buy should have a
1:05:51
label of non comedojenk but doones Now do you know
1:05:56
these these labels are serious and iskohame seriously, so non
1:06:00
community is product may ingredient commodos see a black white diga.
1:06:06
Speaker 1: I see you know?
1:06:08
Speaker 2: So use there brandsquative drug stores. These have over the
1:06:13
counter bio acne prone skin. So this is labeled biodmat
1:06:24
They're not They're not labeled it for acne prone skin.
1:06:26
This is labeled a bit thicker. It's not a light
1:06:28
that this is the light product skin active said dry
1:06:31
hair or to appela, a grap generally quitt moistures, so
1:06:35
it has to be labeled non comediogenic, which I say
1:06:38
called moistures consistency non comitiogenic. So this label you have
1:06:44
to read. Try make up skin care. So a lot
1:06:47
of brands, big brands write non communogenic on the make
1:06:50
up brands as well that makeup labels as well to
1:06:53
skincare a grab makeup to Please don't undermine the value
1:06:59
of for you know that or pany is Joe. You
1:07:04
know toxins pani your toxins code alue take a test.
1:07:08
But panic medium through which circulation happens to your good
1:07:12
food will reach to your skin because the circulation has
1:07:14
to be right. So pan picket. Which is why I
1:07:18
carry like a big bottle so that i'm or also
1:07:21
I you know what I do is I put some
1:07:23
collagen in it, you know, some so that it has flavor,
1:07:26
and that makes me want to have water every now
1:07:28
and then because it's nice flavor and a lot of
1:07:29
girls like me life will like flavor. So I do
1:07:32
that to pan, but it's not not everything. And medically
1:07:42
to aber doctor say so much low or understand that
1:07:47
is when the struggle really starts, maintains maintain.
1:07:51
Speaker 1: Its m But you mentioned collagen, which is a huge
1:07:55
topic of diet. Everybody I know on Instagram is selling
1:07:58
some collagen gummy or tablet or some fizz sinky or
1:08:02
some powder. A lot of it is flavored, yeah, which
1:08:05
you like, but a lot of them. I'm sure you
1:08:07
are leaving you know, I'm sure you are reading the label.
1:08:09
A lot of people aren't. And it has a lot
1:08:11
of sugar. Yeah. So A, is there enough research to
1:08:15
say that collagen powders actually work?
1:08:17
Speaker 2: So?
1:08:18
Speaker 1: And B yeah, how do you know that you're consuming
1:08:21
the right collagen? Right?
1:08:23
Speaker 2: So first things first, CAPE research proven collagen improves elasticity
1:08:30
by increasing haaluronic acid content and the skin too, through
1:08:33
the plumpness or DEWBINESSDT can go. We still don't have
1:08:36
data to believe kagen banjata understand collagic protein A rajama
1:08:41
colu our collagen pilu up chicken colo is a protein
1:08:45
A body uco protein treato amino acids of peptides must
1:08:48
go breakery, gutme gut teps at amino acids of peptides,
1:08:51
gut protein names so apncolagen, pe a collagen absorber of
1:08:56
a blood major if for liver through a baki blood
1:08:58
majiagory deposit I said malega muscle malega, depending on circulation,
1:09:07
So you can't dictate coal laginlagen though moja muscle mando
1:09:12
body use a protein treat So I drink it because
1:09:15
I'm a vegetarian, maybe isolated to mancoe. But to purchase
1:09:18
gram similta. But one has to calculate because or look
1:09:22
board doctors one gramper cag body too and grammar similar.
1:09:33
So I treated as a source of protein and makes
1:09:35
me drink more water, not because I actually want elasticity
1:09:39
with supportive role plumpness with du in es data m
1:09:44
But you know collagen by type scout your second question.
1:09:48
So ideally marine collagen is the best collagen. Unfortunately there
1:09:52
are because these of animal sources. And there is parsine collagen,
1:09:55
which is pork. There is bobine collagen which is cow,
1:09:58
which better. No, marine is the best. Marine collagen is
1:10:02
the best. Fish collagen is the best, and absorptions or
1:10:08
amino acid content skin co or vege collagen jode actually
1:10:12
collagen because collagen is an animal protein, but plants in
1:10:16
But because collation is a protein sid banaraid some plants
1:10:23
and you know, so arinos is beining it because body
1:10:28
is a wessive aminos absorb career or practically so again,
1:10:31
we don't have a lot of data on vege collagen,
1:10:33
but practically marine like in meny patients, they have come
1:10:38
back with good results. So clinically they tell me doctor
1:10:42
hydration for DIK so I think it works, but we don't.
1:10:45
We cannot expect a lift with collagen supplements. God, okay,
1:10:49
so take it with a pinch of salt.
1:10:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, but talking about a pinch of collagen over there. Yeah,
1:10:54
help me understand this today because it is a neutra. Yeah,
1:10:58
any brand is selling religion online anybody, we don't know.
1:11:02
They're half the time not third party tested. Nobody is
1:11:06
reading the label. Any person who has a little bit
1:11:08
of money and has managed to infiltrate your algo will
1:11:13
ensure that you are seeing more and more of that. Yeah.
1:11:16
So is there a way that I can understand that
1:11:19
I'm having the right kind of collagen for my body
1:11:22
the baba.
1:11:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, so hydrolyzed collagen type one collagen y barberish yea.
1:11:33
So some are like deep sea fishes have not better collagen,
1:11:37
but on Mays content of mercury and other elements come
1:11:43
just say greenland kasifish the labels. So you know, jahape
1:11:51
fish farming no quality obviously produced a fish just my
1:11:56
collage in k not just like O but college in
1:12:02
that is with studies have shown so deep sea water
1:12:04
fish is where agabas nic who better collage?
1:12:07
Speaker 1: Got it? And is there a particular quantity then?
1:12:12
Speaker 2: So ideally five to ten grams some day the eight
1:12:14
then Joe studies may generally just keep it just the
1:12:16
studies who yeah, to believe that hydration levels. But are
1:12:19
there the five to ten grams of collagen per day?
1:12:21
So eg sashy mame like, I take this with watermelon flavored.
1:12:26
It is with stevia, so it's you know, zero calory
1:12:29
us of about five grams. So I'll take I take
1:12:32
two sashes in a day, got it?
1:12:34
Speaker 1: Yeah? And is there a chemical grade collagen also subnutractical, subutral.
1:12:40
Speaker 2: Subnutricitical, Yeahney put it in your yeah, okay, Okay.
1:12:45
Speaker 1: So this is take it or trash it for skin
1:12:47
aging products. For skin aging okay. Retinol take it, Vitamin
1:12:52
C take it. Nice in the mind and teaching, leave it.
1:12:57
Collagen powder take it. Bakuchuol as a retinol alternative, leave
1:13:04
it okay. Hyaluronic acid take it. Okay. This is very
1:13:11
famous online these days. Instagram reals are being made on
1:13:14
snail mucin.
1:13:16
Speaker 2: It has some hydration level, so yeah, take it for
1:13:19
anti drink, rice water take it, castor oil, leave it okay,
1:13:26
Red light masks. Take it only if it is like tested,
1:13:30
approved by certain bodies, not just like made in some
1:13:34
country and then labeled her in India some kindry.
1:13:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what country she's talking about. Okay.
1:13:39
Speaker 2: Guasha good for lymphatic drainage, leave it. Trash it for
1:13:44
anti drink.
1:13:45
Speaker 1: I see jade rollers. Same trash it, face taping for
1:13:52
fire lines, trash it facial yoga.
1:14:00
Speaker 2: Take it for muscles, for blood circulation, leave it for
1:14:04
antiaging okay, and multani MITI then trash it for antiaging.
1:14:10
No for acne.
1:14:11
Speaker 1: Maybe take it okay? All right, Which brings me to uh,
1:14:16
the most talked about thing and the most the one
1:14:19
skincare item. If you don't have anything, you must or
1:14:24
I'm sure have this one thing. It is a sunscreen,
1:14:26
yeah right, yeah, help me understand? Is sunscreen good for
1:14:30
acme prone skin? Is it bad for acne prone skin?
1:14:34
And how do I know which one is suiting me?
1:14:36
So sunscreen acne sunscreen for formulation light uspin non moisturis label.
1:14:49
But for the valid question, is doctor in jo acta
1:14:55
a dark or color banayaga to a NAPS sunscreen lagartimulus
1:15:04
name mark markupka the Marx Skinlagaro sunscreen, okay up that
1:15:11
just called an stivals the rare road there if on
1:15:16
acniki physopathophysology irrelevant to sunscreen Bakilo Marx Kia. So if
1:15:21
you have a lightweight sunscreen, gel based sunscreen, just non
1:15:24
label he s P fifty p three plus four plus
1:15:27
he all right? And how do I know? Because ab
1:15:31
gel sunscreens hey, praise hair, you have bars that you
1:15:35
can roll on on your screen? There are so much
1:15:38
stuff out there. Yeah, and every day there's a new
1:15:41
brand that is launching its new sunscreen as well.
1:15:44
Speaker 2: So Basic check O mc oxy, benz on free G
1:15:49
Sunscreen Safety Vice, pregnant woman whole actdating mother who but
1:15:54
h bar compumer and kobi. You know to our mini
1:16:00
sunscreen use curst, you're just mis zinc oxide, titanium dioxide, Yeah,
1:16:03
iron oxide, o y minerals skin cuoper better think absorption
1:16:09
or minerals Ya chemicals as in chemical to Hay but
1:16:12
chemical formula and gay structure, but they are not chemical sunscreens.
1:16:16
So Ya sunscreens superb better at the skin. Pete are
1:16:18
the absorbing with the safety profer and zada mineral sunscreen,
1:16:24
Baki gel based sunscreen, oily skin kill I lotion based,
1:16:29
your cream based dry skin, your combination skin kill a
1:16:31
Hey spray sunscreen is generally body clear prefer but remember inhalematkaro,
1:16:37
so look the other way while you're applying a sunscreen
1:16:39
and sure it's don't apply it like this, hold your breath,
1:16:42
apply it massage and then you take a breath. Okay,
1:16:45
ensure that you're safe. Being safe as well. Sticks are
1:16:48
unfortunately for everyone except for acne prone skin because they're waxes,
1:16:51
so you can't put that greasy thing on your skin,
1:16:53
will clog your pores.
1:16:55
Speaker 1: Got it and u V plus plus p a formulation so.
1:17:01
Speaker 2: Broad spectrum le u V A u V berries both
1:17:06
look artical blue light. Myret iron oxide filter at sunscreen.
1:17:09
It just give it sunscreens colored tinted, you know, tinted
1:17:14
on screens would din't make up. We actually iron oxided
1:17:18
to blue light filter air. So like when in my
1:17:21
bag there will be a sunscreen which is tinted because
1:17:24
I use it on my arms and on my face
1:17:25
when I step out or when i'm you know, in
1:17:27
my office. So I prefer a tinted sunscreen because it,
1:17:30
you know, offers you blue light protection to the except
1:17:33
P A three plus four plus a chaia or s
1:17:36
P fifty thirty or above is what is indicated. But
1:17:38
fifty is better, got it?
1:17:40
Speaker 1: So?
1:17:41
Speaker 2: Uh.
1:17:42
Speaker 1: Another issue that a lot of people face when it
1:17:44
comes to skin issues is I hear this quite a
1:17:48
bit key noida hair. They say hair follow You say skin.
1:17:54
Does that happen or is there a myth?
1:17:57
Speaker 2: No? No, it is to government caud the you know,
1:18:03
let's say calcum magnesium hair to salts to deposit with
1:18:07
the hair. Fiber stiffen, brittle the breakage quality of hair.
1:18:15
They have more frizz in their hair. So this is
1:18:18
a very common problem to mad patients or move to
1:18:24
Deli ma this hair for general because have become brittle.
1:18:34
You could go maybe a problem here see parts of Deli,
1:18:36
maybe hoga, but you know delis so you know to
1:18:41
to categorize. But the universal truth. But calcum magnesium the
1:18:48
brittle because large what do you do? Water filters? Water
1:18:52
filters up in plumbing, Puri household to Central Pellans, voll
1:19:00
or Our Buna gar water softeners. You know, I'll not
1:19:07
be brand specific, but I've worked with a brand Jape.
1:19:10
We have developed a shower head water software plumber install.
1:19:19
Speaker 1: You can change the filter, change your water, not just
1:19:23
change clean.
1:19:25
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it just traps all the salts. Got it
1:19:29
before it gives you the shower.
1:19:31
Speaker 1: Got it? And this is good information. But this is
1:19:36
a lot of information. You know, skincare can get very
1:19:40
overwhelming because now there is so many products that are
1:19:44
out there. There are so many actives out there, so
1:19:46
many brands. Every celebrity has their own brand, and everybody
1:19:49
is trying to sell you something or the other. Can
1:19:52
you tell me a basic thing that a working mom
1:19:55
like you and should follow. You don't have time for
1:19:58
a fifteen step Korean team who don't have time to
1:20:02
ensure that you know they're applying or reapplying every two hours,
1:20:05
or they have night routine as well, something basic to
1:20:08
go by.
1:20:09
Speaker 2: Sure you will just eat one minute of your time
1:20:14
in the morning and one minute in the night, I
1:20:15
promise uses. So chob is gun is a dominant Yeah,
1:20:20
so it has to be a face wash, acne prone
1:20:23
skin tho sallasitic acid, benzo peroxid wash will be good enough.
1:20:28
Antibatic jela to doctrina. Put your moisturizer, a sunscreen, just
1:20:33
a moisturizing base hair bot lofee morning problem opposite face
1:20:43
wash or moisture sunscreen. CA, that's it active problem you know.
1:20:49
Sob raga acne prone skinhead to doctor retinoid you for
1:20:56
co your actively is a salicilic acid after face wash
1:20:59
and then my streiser and sleepin up the face wash
1:21:05
or skipper up active lagacci anti mid thirties THIRTI retinoids
1:21:12
sagasective for some barrier support avoid b coerceptive victiman c
1:21:17
rapny morning some morning time Mutla antioxidant defect milk daga
1:21:23
right up a active choice coctacri be head retinoids baki
1:21:30
actives will be on off isker necessity. Yeah, and I
1:21:37
like to use a face misted, so I keep it
1:21:39
in my office. Beach maluck exhaustion, Get take a sip
1:21:43
of water and also give my skin some mist. I
1:21:45
like it, but it's not a compulsion.
1:21:47
Speaker 1: Got it. But you know, I was looking at this
1:21:50
concept called skin fasting. People say that you have to
1:21:54
keep It's like seed cycling cycling. Yeah, right, you have
1:21:57
to keep changing the products on your skin. Otherwise your
1:22:00
skin just gets too used to it and doesn't happen.
1:22:03
Is that true?
1:22:03
Speaker 2: Is that something we should use specially in like Deli polluted,
1:22:08
So skin cycling is not changing products. Since skin cycling
1:22:13
active choice cycle could benefit Maney Again, like I said,
1:22:20
this is your choice. It's not a necessity. Maybe your
1:22:24
skin doesn't need it, but you do it because you
1:22:25
like doing skincare. Because you know, for a lot of
1:22:27
people's skincare is like domin mobiles ritual, so it just
1:22:34
calms you down. For a lot of people it is therapeutic.
1:22:37
So for them it is not going to be a hassle.
1:22:39
And there are people, like a lot of a lot
1:22:41
of us who find it a hassle.
1:22:46
Speaker 1: All right. That brings me to the end of this podcast.
1:22:48
This has been very refreshing. Thank you so much for
1:22:52
solving and sort of uh, you know, really sorting out
1:22:56
so many myths when it comes to skin care. If
1:22:58
you had to give us a parting.
1:23:00
Speaker 2: I would like to end with a note saying that
1:23:02
you know, whatever your skin is feeling like, just don't
1:23:05
lose confidence because of it, you know, just smile, shine
1:23:10
and treat it. It's not the end of the day,
1:23:12
you know, ko jaga, but don't don't let it affect
1:23:18
your syic. I see too many patients and it breaks
1:23:20
my heart when they're not happy with the way the
1:23:23
skin is looking, and it really affects me.
1:23:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody wants a glass skin these days, and they
1:23:29
think that those filters can exist into your life as well.
1:23:31
But they can if you take care of your skin,
1:23:35
try to do your best, but don't make it your
1:23:37
whole life. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one, doctor Jushiah,
1:23:41
thank you so much for me.
1:23:42
Speaker 2: Thank you pleasure