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- 0:00Speaker 1: And President Trump is set to nominate former Oklahoma state
- 0:03Speaker 1: Trooper Lance Schreyer as the next Director of Immigration and
- 0:06Speaker 1: Customs Enforcement. Trump made the announcement on social media over
- 0:09Speaker 1: the weekend, calling the retired US marine a quote patriot
- 0:12Speaker 1: with real operational experience. Shroyer shares the same home state
- 0:16Speaker 1: as new DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullett. Earlier this month,
- 0:20Speaker 1: Mullen brought Schroyer on stage at a National Sheriff's Association event,
- 0:24Speaker 1: calling him a quote good friend of mine, while noting
- 0:26Speaker 1: that DHS had recently hired him. Ice has been key
- 0:29Speaker 1: to the Trump administration's push to increase deportations across the country.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Notable now to see the person who the administration wants
- 0:36Speaker 1: to lead it MS now White House reporter Larbora and
- 0:39Speaker 1: Lopez is here. And of course you've been looking into
- 0:42Speaker 1: Schroyer's background. It's going to be important as lawmakers consider
- 0:45Speaker 1: if this is the person who they want to confirm
- 0:48Speaker 1: to arguably one of the most controversial agencies of this
- 0:52Speaker 1: second Trump term.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And Schroer was a mullenpick.
- 0:55Speaker 3: This is someone who Secretary d h's secretary Mullen wanted
- 0:58Speaker 3: and he doesn't. He's not a veteran of the agency
- 1:03Speaker 3: the way todd lyons was someone who had worked for
- 1:06Speaker 3: DHS and ICE for a long time.
- 1:07Speaker 2: He does have extensive law.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Enforcement experience at the state and local level, and that's
- 1:12Speaker 3: what the administration is pointing to.
- 1:13Speaker 2: They're also specifically pointing to the.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Fact that he was a part of what is called
- 1:18Speaker 3: two eighty seven g agreements. These agreements are hatched between
- 1:22Speaker 3: ICE and local and state law enforcement agencies, and those
- 1:27Speaker 3: local law enforcement officers are then essentially deputized to carry
- 1:30Speaker 3: out immigration enforcement. They have the same protections that an
- 1:34Speaker 3: ICE agent would when they're under those programs. They're paid
- 1:37Speaker 3: by the federal government when they're deputized to carry out
- 1:40Speaker 3: this immigration enforcement, and Schroyer was overseeing some an agreement
- 1:45Speaker 3: like that. So, look, I think the administration has made
- 1:48Speaker 3: really clear that they're not stopping on their deportation campaign,
- 1:52Speaker 3: even though it looks different than it may have last.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Year earlier this year.
- 1:56Speaker 3: But they see schuer as someone who is clearly aligned
- 2:00Speaker 3: with Mullen and the President on this.
- 2:01Speaker 1: What does it tell you about where they're trying to
- 2:03Speaker 1: go next. Because one of the things that was consistently
- 2:06Speaker 1: talked about in the aftermath of the tragedy and chaos
- 2:10Speaker 1: in Minneapolis was the fact that there was a lack
- 2:13Speaker 1: of coordination to the degree that the administration wanted with
- 2:16Speaker 1: local law enforcement entities across the country. And something Mullen
- 2:19Speaker 1: continued to say during his confirmation hearing was we've got
- 2:21Speaker 1: to get better at that. So now that they have
- 2:23Speaker 1: someone who can ostensibly help them get better at that,
- 2:26Speaker 1: what does the deportation agenda look like to your mind
- 2:29Speaker 1: going forward?
- 2:29Speaker 3: Well, even though he was someone who oversaw an agreement
- 2:33Speaker 3: like this between ICE and local law enforcement, that doesn't
- 2:36Speaker 3: mean that, you know, blue state governors or cities led
- 2:40Speaker 3: by blue mayors and Democratic mayors are going to be
- 2:43Speaker 3: okay with this, or that even the law enforcement the
- 2:45Speaker 3: police departments in those cities are going to be okay
- 2:48Speaker 3: with hatching those kind of agreements. So not all cities
- 2:52Speaker 3: and states across the country are interested in these programs
- 2:55Speaker 3: and working with ICE in that way. But this is
- 2:58Speaker 3: something that the administration has tried to expand in almost
- 3:01Speaker 3: every state in the country, and I think that you
- 3:04Speaker 3: will increasingly see local law enforcement that are deputized in
- 3:08Speaker 3: this way carrying out the immigration enforcement so far, sources
- 3:13Speaker 3: across gages have told me that they don't expect any
- 3:15Speaker 3: kind of surges similar to Minnesota or similar to what
- 3:18Speaker 3: we saw in Los Angeles and Chicago. But that doesn't
- 3:21Speaker 3: mean that they aren't going to go out and try
- 3:24Speaker 3: to find as many undocumented immigrants or immigrants who've been
- 3:28Speaker 3: recently stripped of legal status as they can, including ones
- 3:31Speaker 3: who have no criminal history.
- 3:33Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
- 3:33Speaker 3: They are going after, people with no criminal history or
- 3:37Speaker 3: people who very recently may have had protected or legal status.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Very counter to the campaign promise that a lot of
- 3:43Speaker 1: Trump voters say to me, which is they said they
- 3:45Speaker 1: were going to kick out the worst of the worst
- 3:47Speaker 1: and people who were actually committing crimes. What are they
- 3:49Speaker 1: actually doing in our communities? And then, of course the
- 3:52Speaker 1: open question of if you are also the head of ICE,
- 3:54Speaker 1: and there's still the open threat that the administration refuses
- 3:57Speaker 1: to shut down of could ice show up at pulling
- 4:00Speaker 1: places despite the fact that that's not allowed. This is something
- 4:02Speaker 1: that has a longer tail into the midterms as well.
- 4:04Speaker 1: But you talk about people who've recently lost status. Of course,
- 4:08Speaker 1: the Haitian community is one that that fits. After the
- 4:10Speaker 1: Supreme Court ruling. Just at the end of last week,
- 4:12Speaker 1: you've got Republican Governor Mike DeWine criticizing that Supreme Court
- 4:16Speaker 1: ruling that would end temporary protected status for Haitian and
- 4:19Speaker 1: Syrian migrants and refugees living in the US illegally. Listen
- 4:22Speaker 1: to what Governor Dwine said on CNN yesterday, Well.
- 4:27Speaker 4: I think it's a mistake for a number of reasons.
- 4:29Speaker 4: It is not in the United States' interest, certainly not
- 4:33Speaker 4: in Ohio's interest to have people who are working every
- 4:37Speaker 4: single day, who are supporting a family, who are buying houses,
- 4:41Speaker 4: fixing up old houses, starting businesses and then put deep
- 4:46Speaker 4: roots in this country and really are contributing, and yank
- 4:49Speaker 4: them out. Well, I would hope that the Trump administration
- 4:53Speaker 4: would do is reconsider this.
- 4:58Speaker 1: The governor says there are more than ten thousan in
- 5:00Speaker 1: Haitians living in Ohio under TPS that could soon face
- 5:04Speaker 1: immediate deportation as a result of the Supreme Court's ruling.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Ohio is just one place that we'll see that impact.
- 5:11Speaker 1: New York has a population in Rockland County that I
- 5:14Speaker 1: think second largest per capita Haitian diaspora in the country.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Of course, other communities grappling with this in real time.
- 5:20Speaker 1: And yet you've also got online at least Republicans mocking
- 5:24Speaker 1: other Republicans like former Ohio Governor John.
- 5:27Speaker 2: Kasik for saying this is a mistake.
- 5:29Speaker 1: The administration should roll it back.
- 5:31Speaker 3: Yeah, the administration is sticking by this, the fact that
- 5:35Speaker 3: they went to the Supreme Court that they sought this.
- 5:37Speaker 3: Their argument is that it's temporary, it's not something that
- 5:40Speaker 3: is supposed to be permanent.
- 5:41Speaker 2: That the President.
- 5:42Speaker 3: Should have the authority to be able to terminate any
- 5:45Speaker 3: temporary protected status when he sees fit without judicial review.
- 5:49Speaker 3: So this is going to impact more than just Haitians
- 5:50Speaker 3: and Syrians. It's going to impact anyone who falls under
- 5:53Speaker 3: that one point three million that had TPS. As for
- 5:56Speaker 3: what comes next, the Scotis decision likely won't be full
- 6:00Speaker 3: in effect until the end of this month, if not
- 6:02Speaker 3: early next month, so people don't immediately.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Lose their status.
- 6:06Speaker 3: But what they could do is they could seek some
- 6:08Speaker 3: kind of permanent status or some kind of other legal status,
- 6:12Speaker 3: be an asylum. And so I know lawyers are trying
- 6:14Speaker 3: to work with their with TPS holders to find another
- 6:17Speaker 3: route for them. I've talked to TPS holders who say
- 6:20Speaker 3: they're not leaving, so that if they were.
- 6:22Speaker 2: To leave, it would be a death sentence.
- 6:24Speaker 3: So they're going to try to find another route, but
- 6:26Speaker 3: if not, they may become an undocumented person in the country,
- 6:30Speaker 3: working in the country. What was striking is that Secretary
- 6:33Speaker 3: Mullen also was getting some flat when he yesterday went
- 6:36Speaker 3: on CNN and said that go seek permanent status, and
- 6:40Speaker 3: a lot of Republicans, including talking heads like Laura Ingram,
- 6:44Speaker 3: said in response, no, we don't want these people here anymore,
- 6:48Speaker 3: despite the fact that a number of Republicans, whether it's
- 6:51Speaker 3: the Wine in Ohio, Mike Lawler in a competitive house
- 6:54Speaker 3: district in New York, have said they have helped our community,
- 6:57Speaker 3: they have contributed, and they're adding to the economy.
- 7:00Speaker 1: And there are serious concerns too that if these populations leave,
- 7:03Speaker 1: you're going to have gaps in the job market that
- 7:06Speaker 1: you cannot feel in places like healthcare, that will cause
- 7:09Speaker 1: ripple effects throughout the community. And so when we talk
- 7:12Speaker 1: about the ways that these folks are embedded members of
- 7:14Speaker 1: their community, just trying to make a better life like
- 7:16Speaker 1: that is the central tenant here. So we'll of course
- 7:19Speaker 1: keep tracking that and if there's any way that the
- 7:21Speaker 1: administration backtracks, though I think you're one hundred percent right.
- 7:24Speaker 1: This is what they took to the Supreme.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Court to defend.
- 7:26Speaker 1: You know, one other thing as we start the week
- 7:28Speaker 1: that I'm looking ahead to is I had a source
- 7:30Speaker 1: in the Speaker's office say that they are sending the
- 7:32Speaker 1: housing bill to the President today. Of course, that puts
- 7:34Speaker 1: him on a ten day clock to either veto sign
- 7:37Speaker 1: or just kind of let it quietly lapse into law.
- 7:39Speaker 1: What's your sense of what's happening on that front this week?
- 7:41Speaker 3: On that print, it's that the President is still where
- 7:43Speaker 3: he was last week, which is that essentially he wants
- 7:46Speaker 3: the Save America, the Save Act, and.
- 7:49Speaker 2: He is willing to do almost anything.
- 7:51Speaker 3: To get it, whether it's to say I'm not ready
- 7:53Speaker 3: to have my director of National Intelligence confirmed, I'm not
- 7:57Speaker 3: going to sign this housing bill despite the fact that
- 8:00Speaker 3: Republicans see it is potentially helping them in the midterms.
- 8:03Speaker 3: The President is singularly obsessed with this bill that would
- 8:08Speaker 3: give him more control over elections, that would create a
- 8:10Speaker 3: national voter list, that would require documentary proof of citizenship, which,
- 8:15Speaker 3: as you and Ali a lot of people, there's a
- 8:18Speaker 3: good chunk of Americans who don't necessarily.
- 8:20Speaker 2: Have that readily available.
- 8:21Speaker 3: So this is something that the president wants, But I
- 8:23Speaker 3: think what we should also be paying attention to is
- 8:26Speaker 3: a strategy that he's deploying around it, which is to
- 8:29Speaker 3: flood the zone and flood the ecosystem with as many
- 8:32Speaker 3: which with as much disinformation as possible about America's election system,
- 8:36Speaker 3: which is to repeatedly say, alongside figures like Elong Musk,
- 8:40Speaker 3: alongside Stephen Miller, that the elections are rigged in America
- 8:43Speaker 3: without any evidence, and continue that falsehood that he has
- 8:47Speaker 3: repeated so many elections.
- 8:49Speaker 1: And in our next segment, we are going to get
- 8:50Speaker 1: into the ways in which a the administration is trying
- 8:53Speaker 1: to exercise greater control over election systems, but be the
- 8:56Speaker 1: ways in which people like the Speaker of the House
- 8:57Speaker 1: and the Vice President are sort of backing up BS
- 9:00Speaker 1: talking points from the White House and the President ms
- 9:03Speaker 1: now White House Reporter, Larbora and Lopez thank you as always,