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No Free Passes with Damon Wayans Jr. · Dos Amigos

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Speaker 1: Everybody. This is Freddie Rodriguez.
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Speaker 2: Hey, this is Wilmer a bald Rama. Welcome to the
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Speaker 2: Dose Amigos Podcasts. Once again, we find ourselves being three amingos,
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Speaker 2: amigos amingos through amingos. We like to introduce someone very
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Speaker 2: dear to us, someone very special in my heart.
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Speaker 3: Uh, someone that's been in my.
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Speaker 2: Soul and in in inside my heart for many many years.
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Speaker 2: Other ways to say that you know, you know, And
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Speaker 2: I will also say You've meant so much to me.
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Speaker 2: And I'm so happy that I can say this out
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Speaker 2: loud and finally get it.
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Speaker 3: Off my chest. I've been holding it so much.
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Speaker 2: I don't rarely tell people how I feel about about
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Speaker 2: this next guest that we have today. So we're going
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Speaker 2: to introduce this guy. Now, he's a prolific stand up committean. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he's an incredible human being. He's a prolific actor. He's
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Speaker 2: a writer, he's a producer, he's a dancer. Really, he's
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Speaker 2: an artist, and he's a shoe designer. Uh well, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it counts right, it counts. He used to he used
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Speaker 2: to go by Kyle Green.
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Speaker 4: Green.
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Kyle Green.
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Speaker 2: And we got to get into that Kyle Green is
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Speaker 2: also known to millions of you as mister Damon Wayne,
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Speaker 2: mister you guys.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, guys, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here.
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Speaker 3: Man, appreciate you.
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Speaker 4: I've never been here before.
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Speaker 5: Speak easy, yeah, yeah, usually where you said, yeah, you
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Speaker 5: love that chair.
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Speaker 4: It looks nice. It's my favorite chair.
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Speaker 2: He did sign that chair like he's got a name
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Speaker 2: with leathers and Italian leathers.
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Speaker 1: That's just neat.
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Speaker 3: Hey man, Well, welcome to the show.
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Speaker 1: Bro. I.
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Speaker 2: You know, we always try to tell our guests, you know,
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Speaker 2: the reason why. You know, they kind of get invited
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Speaker 2: to this thing, right, and we humbly, you know, get
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Speaker 2: surprised by how you know, people decide.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll come and check with you guys. You know,
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Speaker 3: the truth is that we're not a podcast that just
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Speaker 3: has a guest, you know. We we we're a.
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Speaker 2: Podcast to try to, you know, do the deep dives
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Speaker 2: on our histories and our life and how it all started.
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Speaker 2: But also you know, we bring individuals that you know,
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Speaker 2: help us remember those days, but also individuals that we respect.
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Speaker 3: And have been part of our lives for a while.
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Speaker 2: And and I wasn't kidding early when I said, you know,
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Speaker 2: you're You're an important person in my life. You're a
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Speaker 2: great friend to him, to me, your family, and and
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Speaker 2: I just want to make sure that you know all
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Speaker 2: kid in a side, you know, I can, I can
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Speaker 2: give you those flowers, all.
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Speaker 6: Can all getting aside. You were a constant name in
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Speaker 6: my family's house. Like we always talk about you. We
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Speaker 6: always talk about how consistent of a person you are.
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Speaker 6: You're always the same, always nice, always there, supportive and
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Speaker 6: I'm happy to be here.
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Speaker 3: Man, Thank you, man, thank you. We started uh with
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Speaker 3: way too long. By the way, we're gone on vacations together.
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Speaker 3: I mean we're Oh no, we're like we're all friends.
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Speaker 3: Like actually do know en?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't just drop I would say twenty years Wow.
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Speaker 4: Way I met him. I met him through Damien Oh yeah.
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Speaker 2: Damnian d Rock shout out to the rock Rock And
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Speaker 2: he's a legend of the.
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Speaker 1: Night, absolutely legend of the night.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's how we met. Cool. Yeah, and then
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Speaker 4: we've just been buddies ever since.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we spend New Receives together. You know, our families
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Speaker 2: I look like each other. I love his wife. She's
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Speaker 2: an amazing person and a really great.
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Speaker 7: Certified She's a great, great cook. She is she is
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Speaker 7: shout out to cook yesterday. Hey, so just go back
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Speaker 7: to the beginning for a second. Man, So needless to say,
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Speaker 7: you know, you know, I love your whole family. Your
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Speaker 7: family is obviously a dynasty that has uh not only prevailed,
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Speaker 7: but have led with disruptive and an iconic history and comedy.
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Speaker 7: And and when I introduced you as Kylgreen, I thought
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Speaker 7: it was an interesting kind of jump off, right, because
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Speaker 7: it's kind of the beginning of those moments when you
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Speaker 7: were like, oh man, you know, I think I think
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Speaker 7: I want to be funny too, you know, or or
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Speaker 7: how where that came from.
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Speaker 3: But tell us a little bit about.
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Speaker 1: Where where were you born?
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Speaker 3: You know, where were raised?
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Speaker 6: So I was born in Vermont, right, It was just
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Speaker 6: very random. My grandma had property, she lived in Vermont,
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Speaker 6: and apparently I think my dad didn't want me, and
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Speaker 6: so he's trying to like convince my mom to get
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Speaker 6: rid of me. And she was just like, now I'm
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Speaker 6: going to live with my mom until you figure things out.
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Speaker 6: And so she moved to Vermont and then she had
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Speaker 6: me there and then my dad like I think I
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Speaker 6: saw him like maybe two months later, and he saw
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Speaker 6: me and he was like, well, I guess I'll keep them.
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Speaker 4: I guess.
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Speaker 1: He looks like we can't.
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Speaker 4: We can't really get rid of him now, so I'm here.
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Speaker 4: And and then.
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Speaker 6: I moved with him back to That was a weird
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Speaker 6: way to say it, but yeah, I segue into in fact,
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Speaker 6: you know, then we moved to Jersey, and then we
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Speaker 6: moved to California, and I was raised in California. And
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Speaker 6: then kind of like, you know, the rest is almost history.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what would your earlier interest, you know, when
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Speaker 2: you were growing up as a teenager.
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Speaker 4: Growing up, so I wanted to be an animator. I
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Speaker 4: used to draw all the time.
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Speaker 3: Oh, can I just say something.
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Speaker 2: Damon is just like a prolific, you know artist when
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Speaker 2: it comes to uh drawing and all that.
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Speaker 3: He makes him like.
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Speaker 2: Beautiful stuff, like really reciting. You drew me like one
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Speaker 2: of you know, French girl. Yeah, like.
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Speaker 3: I still I still have that.
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Speaker 4: I still have really good. That was really good. I mean, like,
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Speaker 4: you're like, draw my breast just like Kate Winslet. I
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Speaker 4: was like, and by the way it did, and they
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Speaker 4: don't even really look like that, they don't, but they
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Speaker 4: were brown. Yeah, because I was.
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Speaker 3: Like, he's he ran. He never used brown.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, deep brown, deep thank you, thank you you also man,
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Speaker 6: deep brown, the.
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Speaker 4: Deep hue that colors.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the richness of the of the Venezuelan and Colombian cacao, yes,
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Speaker 2: supple in.
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Speaker 3: The cow.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was you could almost taste them.
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Speaker 3: It was like a scratch sniffing.
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Speaker 2: That's and and you know, he he also perfected the.
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Speaker 3: Yard of drawing with elements.
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Speaker 2: So he would use uh, you know, actual like strawberry
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Speaker 2: for his reds, and and he would use salmon for there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that was kind of my thing.
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Speaker 2: But you know, so piggybacking from that, yeah, a little
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Speaker 2: deeper into your drawing, right.
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Speaker 6: So, so, so I was drawing, and I was convinced
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Speaker 6: that this was what I wanted to do.
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Speaker 1: That was your first love, your first love.
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Speaker 6: Still I still love it, It's just it kind of
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Speaker 6: had to take a back seat because I had children
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Speaker 6: really young, and so I was like, I can't really
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Speaker 6: I mean, I can dream, but it's like I got
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Speaker 6: to kind of shift priorities. Everybody in my family is
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Speaker 6: first kid of nineteen are Oh yeah dude?
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Speaker 4: It responsible?
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah man.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, So so I knew I had to get my
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Speaker 6: stuff together, and so I started, like you know, going
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Speaker 6: to acting class, sort of writing, doing stand up and
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Speaker 6: and I've kind of just kind of built my little
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Speaker 6: infrastructure of creativity that was still you know, in the
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Speaker 6: realm of creating things, but it wasn't quite animation, but
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Speaker 6: it kind of it fulfilled me the same way, if
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Speaker 6: that makes sense. And I just knew I had to
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Speaker 6: get it together. And everybody in my family's funny anyway,
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Speaker 6: so it's all about who wants to like actually take
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Speaker 6: that next step experience, like all that rejection experience and
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Speaker 6: kind of like the trials and tribulations.
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Speaker 4: Of of our industry. So yeah, so that's that's kind
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Speaker 4: of like how.
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Speaker 8: I never every time I watch you, I never feel like, Okay,
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Speaker 8: he's just sort of writing his family's co tails.
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Speaker 6: Like I try not to try. I try to, like,
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Speaker 6: you know, I definitely appreciate everything that they've done, and
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Speaker 6: I know that it is you know, without them, there
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Speaker 6: wouldn't be me. But I definitely try to not only
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Speaker 6: kind of pave my own way, but also make them
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Speaker 6: proud while I'm doing it, you know. So it's like
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Speaker 6: they see me, they see my work, and they appreciate me.
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Speaker 6: That I'm not stinking up the name.
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Speaker 2: But you have to realize one thing, you know, to
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Speaker 2: kind of pig it back on what you just started there.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: You know, people have this perception right that like, oh, well,
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Speaker 2: you know your uncle or your dad or your mom
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Speaker 2: or whatever.
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Speaker 3: And the truth is, you still have to audition for
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Speaker 3: this stuff. You still have to earn this. They're not
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Speaker 3: just going to hang you over a movie.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And and I think that the one thing you
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Speaker 2: you you probably could say that you had is is
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Speaker 2: you have support from a family that says, hey, it
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Speaker 2: is you know, kind of a family, family business. But
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Speaker 2: you got to swim on your own, like this is
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Speaker 2: not They're not gonna just like if you can't act,
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Speaker 2: or if you can't be funny, if you can't write,
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Speaker 2: you're you're just not invited to that one.
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Speaker 8: You know. Yeah, you were born with an inherent skill, okay,
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Speaker 8: and whether you had your family or not, Like I
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Speaker 8: watch you and I go, oh, no, matter what, that.
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Speaker 1: Dude was going to be in the position he's in now, that's.
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Speaker 4: Really cool, you know.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think that's I I appreciate that sentiment,
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm I'm just grateful to be here, you know,
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Speaker 6: to be able to you know, take care of my
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Speaker 6: family while doing something that is so exciting and so
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Speaker 6: much fun. So when people like bring up nepotism or
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Speaker 6: nepo babies, like, I don't ever, I don't run away
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Speaker 6: from that. I'm just like, yes, but also, you got
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Speaker 6: to do the work to stay here.
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Speaker 4: They'll give you maybe one shot.
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Speaker 6: But if you're not, if you're not delivering, they're not
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Speaker 6: going to continue to give stuff just because your family
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Speaker 6: is working.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, there's.
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Speaker 3: How did Kyle Green Kyle Green.
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Speaker 6: Kyle Green is a is my middle name and my
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Speaker 6: grandma's maiden name, So I just put that in. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: Mi Kyle. That's why I keep that a secret. Don't
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Speaker 6: tell nobody.
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Speaker 1: Dad's name.
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Speaker 4: It's his whole name. I'm just his name, right, So
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Speaker 4: he had that nerdy middle name and shout out to
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Speaker 4: all the Kyles in the world. Not really, no, really,
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Speaker 4: you are fucking nerds or what.
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Speaker 6: But Yeah, So I wanted to create my own name
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Speaker 6: so I could kind of pave my own path and
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Speaker 6: I and I knew my dad did stand up and
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Speaker 6: so I just kind of wanted to, like, you know,
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Speaker 6: get my footing before I started going on stage as
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Speaker 6: Damon Wayne's junior. You know, being a namesake is freaking weird, man,
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Speaker 6: you know.
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Speaker 2: But also the burden of having to carry whatever, whether
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Speaker 2: it's good or bad expectations. Also, it's not liberating for
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Speaker 2: you to be free. And dude, I've said this a
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Speaker 2: few times and we've talked about this on the show
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Speaker 2: a few times.
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Speaker 3: Comedy you have to be free. There's got to be a.
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Speaker 2: Piece within you that has like you can go to
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Speaker 2: you can be on stage and try to make people laugh.
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Speaker 3: When you're carrying something, you have to.
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Speaker 2: Divorce all of it. You have to drop all of it,
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Speaker 2: you know, in you know it to be funny, you
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Speaker 2: have to really really be free to soar so but
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Speaker 2: you're doing the Caygreen experiment however.
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Speaker 3: You want to they want to call it.
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Speaker 1: You really it really.
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Speaker 4: Probably helped get my own my own voice.
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Speaker 6: It helped me get my confidence up right, because I remember,
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Speaker 6: you know, going on stage and opening for my dad
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Speaker 6: when I first kind of had to abandon the name
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Speaker 6: and they'd be like Damon Wayne's Junior. I would feel
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Speaker 6: the audience literally.
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Speaker 4: Cross their arms.
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Speaker 6: Really as soon as I before you even get to
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Speaker 6: the mic, They're just like this, let's see what he's got.
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Speaker 6: So you have that like intimidation factor when you're doing
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Speaker 6: stand ups, so you know, I'm so new to it,
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Speaker 6: and so it's like, let me get let me figure
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Speaker 6: things out first before you guys start judging me.
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Speaker 8: Right, So you did all the Cayle Green about a
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Speaker 8: year and a half, and that's so that you're just
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Speaker 8: getting stage hours and trying to figure that.
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Speaker 6: I would have done it longer, but people would like
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Speaker 6: in the middle of my step be like that's name
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Speaker 6: and Wayne's son, like ways in the middle of my punchline,
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Speaker 6: like how am I?
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Speaker 3: That's great?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I had to just like abandon it and
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Speaker 6: just embrace my name r Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And how do you think people do that? If they
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Speaker 1: if you were to figure it.
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Speaker 6: It looked so much like them and people would like
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Speaker 6: hear you know, like that I'm doing stand up and
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Speaker 6: so yeah, they would just always expose me, especially because
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Speaker 6: a lot of the times I would be the host
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Speaker 6: for my dad's shows, so I would go out, I'm
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Speaker 6: going out.
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Speaker 4: First, I'd look like a Wayne's So they would just
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Speaker 4: put it all together and be like shut up, wait,
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Speaker 4: So what.
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Speaker 2: Would that so okay, so you're opening for your pops
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Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, what's that routine? Like like why
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Speaker 2: do you how do you open? What routine did you
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Speaker 2: open with? What was your first Do you remember your
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Speaker 2: first joke?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 1: How old were you at first?
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Speaker 6: I was like twenty three, so I kind of started
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Speaker 6: like four years yeah, twenty four. Yeah, I was like
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Speaker 6: twenty four because I did I did something. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 6: it was twenty four, so I started that. I don't
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Speaker 6: remember my first joke, but I do know that he
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Speaker 6: had taken me on the road with him and he
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Speaker 6: was like selling out like like theaters at the time,
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Speaker 6: because it was like he did the show my wife
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Speaker 6: and kids, right, and so it was like as soon
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Speaker 6: as it was over, he hit the road it was
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Speaker 6: and he was doing like six thousand seaters, five thousand seaters.
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Speaker 6: It made me like really good, very durable. I was
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Speaker 6: passionate about it. So I did a lot of stand up.
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Speaker 6: So my five minutes or my ten minutes were super strong,
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Speaker 6: to the point where deaf Jam saw me do my
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Speaker 6: ten minutes set and they were like, do you want
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Speaker 6: to do a set? I was like, I want to
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Speaker 6: be doing stand up for like a year and a half,
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Speaker 6: they're like, come on down, and I wound up doing
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Speaker 6: it and I got standing ovasi.
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, but I only had ten minutes. So
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Speaker 4: after that came out what else eternity?
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Speaker 2: When you don't have the right set, okay, you're.
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Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, I still got seven more minutes
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Speaker 3: to go.
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Speaker 6: But it's like when you record your ten minutes set
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Speaker 6: and you only have ten minutes, it's like and then
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Speaker 6: they go, all right, now they want to have you
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Speaker 6: headline somewhere. I'm like, I don't have any more material,
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Speaker 6: you know, so I had to like really like hunker
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Speaker 6: down and figure out how to how to expand my
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Speaker 6: hour or expand to even have like thirty minutes.
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Speaker 4: I didn't know.
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Speaker 2: How would you describe the the I guess the theme
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Speaker 2: off your sets? Did you do you gravitate towards a
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Speaker 2: more like a reflection of like reality, Like I'm wondering
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Speaker 2: because here's here's the most specifically why I'm asking this question.
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Speaker 2: Your range as a as a comedian and as a human.
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Speaker 2: It's so diverse that it's interesting to figure out what
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Speaker 2: do you decide that it's part of your arsenal when
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Speaker 2: you're on that stage right.
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Speaker 4: So when I first started.
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Speaker 6: You know, you know me, I'm kind of random, like
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Speaker 6: I have like outer space ideas. A lot of my
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Speaker 6: stuff was like tethered to reality, but it was like
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Speaker 6: like a weird.
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Speaker 4: Take on something.
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Speaker 6: And so I realized early on, like like you'll get
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Speaker 6: a lot of laughs, but people will leave not really
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Speaker 6: remembering anything that you said.
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Speaker 4: So I kind of had.
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Speaker 6: To ground my stand up a little bit in reality,
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Speaker 6: and I start talking about my family, start talking about
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Speaker 6: my upbringing, being a young dad, these kind of things
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Speaker 6: that kind of help people, you know, relate to me
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Speaker 6: connect because I felt I realized that and I'm still
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Speaker 6: figuring this out. But like, stand up comedy is interesting
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Speaker 6: because people audiences prefer relatability over funny, and as a
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Speaker 6: comedian who was raised by comedians, I can see like
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Speaker 6: a well structured joke and appreciate it for just being funny.
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Speaker 6: But other people who are not used to that, they'd rather, like,
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Speaker 6: you talk about your family, you talk about life and
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Speaker 6: stuff that we can connect to, and so I've been
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Speaker 6: doing that. That's been my journey now is just relatability.
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Speaker 6: So yeah, so that's that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, because because it's it's so unique because
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Speaker 2: you you know, you're great with characters, are great word voices,
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Speaker 2: You're a great storyteller. And I I I think your
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Speaker 2: randomness is a super power that most comedians are afraid of.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think it definitely helps set me apart.
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Speaker 6: It helps, you know, people not talk shit about me
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Speaker 6: when I leave, you know what I mean, Like other comedians,
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Speaker 6: like they don't they don't when I do stand up,
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Speaker 6: Like I don't hear whispers of them going he's not
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Speaker 6: even funny, because they they they agree they see me,
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Speaker 6: they're going, oh, he's funny. So I have you know,
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Speaker 6: I feel like I have the support of the stand
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Speaker 6: up world too. And and I just kind of trying
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Speaker 6: to use whatever I can. I'm left handed. I feel
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Speaker 6: like being left handed makes you think weird. Anyways, what
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Speaker 6: do you what do you mean by what do you
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Speaker 6: mean by randomness?
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Speaker 1: What do you mean like random? Sense of humor?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, A little bit like like stuff that's like, you know,
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Speaker 6: what's something that I've been doing that's a weird joke
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Speaker 6: to me? Also, I have a joke where I go,
18:18
Speaker 6: this is you know, I saw that movie Superman, the
18:20
Speaker 6: Superman movie that recently came out. My favorite Superman is
18:23
Speaker 6: the very first Superman. Yeah, yeah, chrisop reeves and it Yeah.
18:27
Speaker 6: I was like, my favorite scene in that movie is
18:30
Speaker 6: when Lois Lane dies to save her life, Superman flies
18:33
Speaker 6: around the earth counterclockwise so fast it rewinds time, bringing
18:36
Speaker 6: her back to life.
18:37
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, that's love.
18:39
Speaker 6: But I was also like, damn, if you'd have phoned
18:41
Speaker 6: around the earth a couple more times, uh, he could
18:44
Speaker 6: have stopped slavery.
18:45
Speaker 4: Right.
18:47
Speaker 6: So that is like an example of it's like, why
18:52
Speaker 6: are you even thinking? Yeah, yeah, and then I have
18:56
Speaker 6: I go on with the bit, but it's like that
19:00
Speaker 6: that's kind of like my absurdest kind of where I'll
19:03
Speaker 6: take things that are not necessarily related and connect.
19:06
Speaker 4: Them in a way to make people laugh.
19:09
Speaker 6: But it's also like, could you sit through an hour
19:12
Speaker 6: of just random shit like that becomes homework? I think
19:15
Speaker 6: for certain audiences that came to relate to you or
19:19
Speaker 6: get to learn about you, you know, being raised as
19:22
Speaker 6: a waynes I think is like I have like a
19:25
Speaker 6: big chunk of that, and I think people relate to
19:28
Speaker 6: that most and my kid material people relate to that.
19:31
Speaker 6: Marriage material people relate to that, and I think that's
19:34
Speaker 6: they'll come up to me. They'll laugh harder at like
19:36
Speaker 6: a Superman joke or an absurd joke, but they'll come
19:39
Speaker 6: and talk to me about the family stuff.
19:42
Speaker 4: You know.
19:43
Speaker 2: There's interesting feedback because I think also, you know, it's
19:47
Speaker 2: that kind of experiment of like, what is your normal
19:51
Speaker 2: family relativity to the randomness?
19:54
Speaker 3: And it is, I mean, and.
19:55
Speaker 2: You carry so much love and respect from the common community.
19:59
Speaker 2: And it's because you putting the hours on that stage.
20:01
Speaker 2: You're not just like showing up and you know, the
20:04
Speaker 2: month to like, you know, try just.
20:07
Speaker 6: You know, that helps to not a dick like yeah, yeah,
20:12
Speaker 6: going around you know, like my ship don't think you know,
20:15
Speaker 6: and I and it doesn't.
20:18
Speaker 3: Trust does not trust trust.
20:25
Speaker 4: Your doesn't.
20:27
Speaker 6: Yeah, chlorophylls, that's what helped.
20:34
Speaker 8: I've gotten that sense from from you and your And
20:36
Speaker 8: this is without even really knowing you.
20:38
Speaker 1: I know your uncle Marlon a little bit.
20:41
Speaker 8: But that's what I've always admired about your family, is
20:46
Speaker 8: the way y'all have carried yourselves or there's been this
20:48
Speaker 8: sense of humility maybe is the word I'm looking for.
20:54
Speaker 8: I've never I've never felt a sense of like cockiness
20:58
Speaker 8: or ego or what you just say about being a dick, like,
21:01
Speaker 8: and I've always admired that about it, especially me. I'm
21:03
Speaker 8: a Chicago guy, I'm a Midwest guy, so it's kind
21:05
Speaker 8: of how we roll a little bit, you know.
21:07
Speaker 6: So yeah, man, Yeah, there's also something like about an
21:14
Speaker 6: entire family kind of doing the same thing. That's humbling, right.
21:17
Speaker 6: So it's like, no matter what I succeed in doing, Like,
21:21
Speaker 6: I'll have like a movie that opens and does really
21:24
Speaker 6: well and I'll tell my family they were like, yeah,
21:27
Speaker 6: so we did that too.
21:27
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh okay.
21:29
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, there's nothing that I can like
21:31
Speaker 6: do necessarily that could give me that chip on my
21:35
Speaker 6: shoulder because they are just right there to flick it off,
21:37
Speaker 6: you know, which is great because I think we all
21:40
Speaker 6: kind of keep each other in check and keep the
21:43
Speaker 6: egos low.
21:44
Speaker 1: I will give you.
21:45
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that while you say that,
21:49
Speaker 2: trying to find ways to give you a chip, because
21:52
Speaker 2: because the truth is that.
21:54
Speaker 3: You've taken and you're not. And I mean this metaphorically,
21:59
Speaker 3: not literally, but.
22:00
Speaker 2: But they establish a very specific tone of comedy at
22:05
Speaker 2: their generation. There's multiple generations, right, there's like your dad dance,
22:11
Speaker 2: your uncle's right, and they all have had a sector
22:14
Speaker 2: like ten to fifteen years of pop culture where they've
22:17
Speaker 2: defined the tone for that moment.
22:20
Speaker 3: I will say that I think you're done.
22:22
Speaker 2: You've done the most efficient and most relevant evolution of
22:30
Speaker 2: your family's comedy for what actually works today pop culturally.
22:36
Speaker 2: Everything that I've seen you, you know, pop up if
22:38
Speaker 2: you understood, you know that your feet have to be
22:41
Speaker 2: in the ground when you're in front of that camera,
22:43
Speaker 2: that your eyes are telling out of the storylines. You know,
22:45
Speaker 2: no matter how big you can go with things, you
22:47
Speaker 2: still stay a great performer on camera. And you know,
22:51
Speaker 2: I wanted to go into some of your TV and
22:54
Speaker 2: film work because you know a lot of people when
22:57
Speaker 2: did dance Flake happen?
22:59
Speaker 3: That happened before opands, No.
23:01
Speaker 4: Dance flock happened?
23:02
Speaker 1: Yeah?
23:02
Speaker 4: It did?
23:02
Speaker 6: It?
23:02
Speaker 1: Did? It?
23:03
Speaker 4: Was? That was my first thing? Yeah?
23:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I remember, I remember when that was being written.
23:08
Speaker 2: I remember when you guys you know, were developing that
23:10
Speaker 2: and shooting that. And remember when you guys had the office.
23:13
Speaker 2: I think you guys had office of Paramount, right, it
23:15
Speaker 2: was an office?
23:16
Speaker 3: Was that paramount of Fox?
23:17
Speaker 6: I forget it was, so I remember I only remember
23:20
Speaker 6: the office that was by the grove, Like they had
23:24
Speaker 6: this office by the grove that was like across the
23:26
Speaker 6: street from you know, like that that marketplace in the Grove.
23:29
Speaker 4: So I remember that.
23:30
Speaker 6: I don't remember the paramount office never had to.
23:34
Speaker 2: Be you guys had you were given like a little
23:36
Speaker 2: production office, right, And I think that's when d Rock
23:39
Speaker 2: was taking meetings there.
23:40
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, so they So I wasn't even part of
23:44
Speaker 6: Dance Flock until I started auditioning for it.
23:46
Speaker 4: So I had to audition for that. Absolutely.
23:50
Speaker 6: I auditioned seven times now, kept bringing different. I would
23:54
Speaker 6: beat somebody and they would bring somebody new, then they
23:57
Speaker 6: bring somebody where.
23:57
Speaker 2: It did not was that this studio is that like
24:01
Speaker 2: your own family.
24:02
Speaker 4: I think it was my own family.
24:04
Speaker 6: I think it was because they didn't think I was
24:06
Speaker 6: necessarily ready to be like, you know, like carrying a
24:09
Speaker 6: whole movie. I had just like been auditioning. I hadn't
24:14
Speaker 6: really gotten any you know parts, so I was like
24:17
Speaker 6: still green, right, But they could tell I, you know,
24:21
Speaker 6: I had my natural comedy and that's what it would
24:24
Speaker 6: keep winning, you know against the competition, is my comedy chops.
24:29
Speaker 6: Because I was like good at improv. I was good
24:30
Speaker 6: at all that kind of stuff. But I think that
24:34
Speaker 6: they knew like, oh, this guy's kind of green, and
24:37
Speaker 6: you know, but I finally, you know, proved myself to
24:39
Speaker 6: the point where I think Uncle Marlon was like, just
24:42
Speaker 6: give them the job.
24:44
Speaker 1: And who directed it?
24:45
Speaker 4: A Damien? Damien, Wayne's my cousin.
24:48
Speaker 3: It's interesting.
24:49
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry going back to it, it's interesting
24:51
Speaker 2: that you're saying, like, you know, they were wondering, like,
24:53
Speaker 2: you know, you're still were green?
24:55
Speaker 3: Can you're hand of a movie?
24:56
Speaker 2: Everybody in the first tiered of leadership in that movie
24:59
Speaker 2: was how allowed to cook for the first time on
25:02
Speaker 2: that level too. Yeah, So it's an interesting thing because
25:06
Speaker 2: I think this was also Damien's first big movie to
25:10
Speaker 2: produce and develop and and and be a director, and
25:14
Speaker 2: so it's a very interesting thing that their perception was.
25:17
Speaker 2: You know, I would dare to say that everybody that
25:19
Speaker 2: was in that production office at Paramount was very green
25:22
Speaker 2: and that the people like Marlin will come in and
25:24
Speaker 2: like sprinkle the pixie dust on it, you know. But
25:27
Speaker 2: but they were allowing to cook. So it was interesting
25:30
Speaker 2: that you were being put through the gunlet on that
25:32
Speaker 2: level when they were handed that part and.
25:33
Speaker 8: What was that like for your cousin to go, Yo,
25:35
Speaker 8: you got an audition for this one more time?
25:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifth time. It's just and your cousin keeps bringing
25:41
Speaker 1: you in.
25:41
Speaker 6: What was wild is at the time, man, I was
25:44
Speaker 6: so desperate to work. I remember, you know, because we
25:48
Speaker 6: were young. Dad, I had I think four kids by
25:51
Speaker 6: the time I was twenty four. Really, so I was
25:55
Speaker 6: just like, you know, all yours oh yeah, yeah, wow, yeah,
25:59
Speaker 6: uh piloting up, Bill's piling up. And I just had
26:02
Speaker 6: this desperation that like I couldn't even I just had
26:05
Speaker 6: tunnel vision.
26:06
Speaker 4: I was just like, you couldn't care.
26:07
Speaker 6: I don't care how many times they bring me up
26:10
Speaker 6: against somebody. I'm gonna beat this person. So I was
26:13
Speaker 6: like I needed this job. I needed to work, and
26:16
Speaker 6: so I just you know me and you know Shane
26:19
Speaker 6: shame So Shane and I shout out to Shane Miller.
26:22
Speaker 3: One of the best people.
26:24
Speaker 6: He's definitely one of the guys that helped me get
26:26
Speaker 6: that part because he he would stay up every night
26:29
Speaker 6: just drilling the scenes and finding different takes.
26:32
Speaker 3: He's the best cheerleader.
26:34
Speaker 2: Like he's just like such a supportive human being, beautiful person.
26:39
Speaker 1: All hard.
26:40
Speaker 6: He was a really good actor too, You're really good
26:43
Speaker 6: at he was like coaching me, yeah, because he was
26:47
Speaker 6: I think he was doing Aaron Spizer like religiously for
26:50
Speaker 6: a while at the time, and so he had like
26:53
Speaker 6: all the different techniques that I didn't really know, Like
26:55
Speaker 6: I knew how to improvise, but I didn't really know
26:57
Speaker 6: how to like you know, what's my motivation? All that
26:59
Speaker 6: kind of like early stuff, and so like, yeah, he
27:03
Speaker 6: just worked with me, and so anytime I would go
27:06
Speaker 6: out there, I would just or whoever I was going
27:09
Speaker 6: against out of the water.
27:10
Speaker 4: And so yeah, so I really needed that that job.
27:15
Speaker 6: And so when I finally got it, it was like
27:17
Speaker 6: a but it was also like let's get to work.
27:20
Speaker 8: You know.
27:20
Speaker 6: I had no I had no ego. I had no
27:22
Speaker 6: it's like, yeah, you guys, you know put me through
27:24
Speaker 6: the ringer. I had no resentment.
27:26
Speaker 4: You know.
27:26
Speaker 6: I did promise myself. I was like, I'm never working
27:28
Speaker 6: with these motherfuckers.
27:31
Speaker 1: I got to see, but.
27:35
Speaker 4: I'm not. But I wound up working with them.
27:40
Speaker 3: But yeah, so and then and then so then happy
27:43
Speaker 3: Endings happened.
27:45
Speaker 4: Happy endings?
27:45
Speaker 3: How how how soon after that?
27:47
Speaker 6: So Happy Endings was so I did the dance Flick,
27:52
Speaker 6: and then I did Deaf Jam, which I talked about
27:54
Speaker 6: and then I got to and then I auditioned for
27:56
Speaker 6: Happy Endings. So maybe two years after that, I'll for
28:01
Speaker 6: Happy Ending That was my first television show audition and
28:05
Speaker 6: I booked it and I was just like, what the
28:07
Speaker 6: what is happening? You know, it really kind of like
28:10
Speaker 6: messaged with your brain because you think everything is going
28:13
Speaker 6: to be easy like that. After that, I auditioned for
28:16
Speaker 6: Happy Endings. I got that, and I was also green.
28:21
Speaker 6: They had I think they hired at acting coach for
28:25
Speaker 6: me because they you know, again my strengths were improv
28:28
Speaker 6: but I also like, was going.
28:30
Speaker 4: I was you had a show?
28:32
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was in a show with a bunch of
28:33
Speaker 6: people who had you know, a lot of credits.
28:36
Speaker 2: My yes that they were young, but very young.
28:43
Speaker 4: Alicia Cuthbert, which I don't know how many movies, one of.
28:47
Speaker 3: The best people, a beautiful human being.
28:50
Speaker 6: So all these guys I had to like kind of
28:51
Speaker 6: like and then and I learned so much from them,
28:54
Speaker 6: and it was such a It was such a good
28:57
Speaker 6: breeding ground for comedy because the writers were great, everybody
29:01
Speaker 6: was young as hell, and and everybody just wanted to
29:04
Speaker 6: make a funny, fun show, no egos, and.
29:07
Speaker 3: It was the first of its tones.
29:09
Speaker 2: Kind yes, you know, they're taking the stuff that like
29:12
Speaker 2: had worked from the office and also the things the
29:14
Speaker 2: absurdity of all those situations, and they made it into
29:18
Speaker 2: a true single camera and because you know, the office
29:22
Speaker 2: felt like a montage of sketches that were tied loosely
29:26
Speaker 2: through an episodic idea.
29:27
Speaker 3: Right, they you know, had a lot of I mean,
29:31
Speaker 3: I don't even know.
29:32
Speaker 2: You guys were probably shooting two three pages straight up
29:34
Speaker 2: because you guys were talking with each other. It was
29:37
Speaker 2: so much dialogue, but it was everything was a set up,
29:40
Speaker 2: set up jokes, set U set up jokes, set I
29:42
Speaker 2: set up jokes, and you guys just passed the ball
29:44
Speaker 2: so beautifully and the.
29:45
Speaker 6: Scene was just just full of It was like the
29:49
Speaker 6: same jokes permitted as like a sketch show, but it
29:54
Speaker 6: was like a television show and these were actual, like
29:56
Speaker 6: supposed to be three dimensional characters.
29:58
Speaker 4: And so a lot of.
29:59
Speaker 6: People that the people that saw it and loved it
30:01
Speaker 6: loved it, a lot of people didn't get it. I
30:04
Speaker 6: feel like it was maybe five years ahead of its
30:07
Speaker 6: time because I feel like if it would have came
30:09
Speaker 6: out like during the sweet Spot, when you know, everybody
30:12
Speaker 6: was like into like you know, like gay marriage and
30:16
Speaker 6: into all that kind of stuff. Like we were kind
30:18
Speaker 6: of like right before everybody, you know, interracial. You were available,
30:24
Speaker 6: but we didn't even talk about the interracial part of
30:26
Speaker 6: our relationship, which was really cool because it was just
30:29
Speaker 6: like people who did the just.
30:31
Speaker 2: Made any like real uh uh, you didn't do a
30:35
Speaker 2: reoccurring skit on it, you know, you really just you
30:38
Speaker 2: just became, you know, and you were available at a
30:41
Speaker 2: time where this new generation who had that mentality and
30:45
Speaker 2: that philosophy and that spirit, and you became an anthem
30:48
Speaker 2: for that.
30:48
Speaker 4: Absolutely it was Network.
30:51
Speaker 1: It was that ABC.
30:52
Speaker 4: The creator of the show, David Cash Chicago Boy like you. Yeah.
30:56
Speaker 6: So like it was like like Adam Pally, who really
31:00
Speaker 6: really funny dude. He's on He's doing all the Sonics.
31:02
Speaker 6: He's like in the Sonic movies are great, They're crushing.
31:08
Speaker 4: I love them.
31:09
Speaker 3: I has a crush on.
31:12
Speaker 6: Understandable, understandable, and he can like go super Saiyan, Like
31:16
Speaker 6: that's do you think his level?
31:18
Speaker 4: There's levels to him.
31:19
Speaker 8: Do you think your show was too sophisticated for Network
31:22
Speaker 8: at that time?
31:23
Speaker 1: Maybe belonged on cable.
31:24
Speaker 4: I think so.
31:25
Speaker 6: I think that either that or just like waited a
31:29
Speaker 6: couple of years to come out, right, because at this time,
31:32
Speaker 6: I think Modern Family was like that was a peak
31:35
Speaker 6: Modern Family. So they put us on after Modern Family.
31:39
Speaker 6: So you know, they'd have like ten eleven million viewers
31:43
Speaker 6: and then it would drop to like eight million for us,
31:46
Speaker 6: and you know it's not like, which is insane now,
31:49
Speaker 6: but yeah, we had like eight millions. They were just
31:52
Speaker 6: like and then they started bouncing us around the week
31:54
Speaker 6: and we were just like, we kind of knew that
31:55
Speaker 6: was like the death Ring.
31:57
Speaker 4: But we did three seasons. They got three seasons.
31:59
Speaker 2: When we were doing seventy show, we were doing I
32:02
Speaker 2: think between twenty one to twenty.
32:03
Speaker 4: Two million Live in Life in.
32:07
Speaker 2: Nielsen Next Morning Live, and when we dropped to nineteen million,
32:11
Speaker 2: they were like, I don't know, I don't know. So
32:15
Speaker 2: they think about the audacity of run right now, you know,
32:19
Speaker 2: I'm technically in the number one, number two every week
32:23
Speaker 2: drama on television, right, So it's just for years, bro,
32:27
Speaker 2: you know what, our live numbers are five point five
32:30
Speaker 2: six million now crazy.
32:32
Speaker 4: Though, right, right?
32:33
Speaker 2: But everybody else is averaging four, right, so you're like, oh,
32:36
Speaker 2: this is crazy, but it's just TV is not what
32:39
Speaker 2: it used to and it brings me down full circuit
32:42
Speaker 2: to it.
32:42
Speaker 3: It's just it's.
32:43
Speaker 2: The the comedy as a destination is in an unfortunate
32:54
Speaker 2: place because the industry is so timid and so scared
33:00
Speaker 2: to be funny that everything's so soft hitting, you know,
33:05
Speaker 2: and very few individuals like you you know, exist to
33:11
Speaker 2: be trusted with, you know, drive it to where it
33:16
Speaker 2: needs to be and let's just surrender to the fact
33:19
Speaker 2: that they know their audience and they know the tone
33:22
Speaker 2: that they need. But you know, you have the usual
33:26
Speaker 2: suspects making TV shows and it's a lot of wholesomeness
33:29
Speaker 2: and a lot of soft hitting jokes and a lot
33:31
Speaker 2: of like you know, the grumpy dad jokes, you know,
33:33
Speaker 2: and like nothing, nothing is moving with innovations. So how
33:38
Speaker 2: do you handle that part? Like how do you look
33:40
Speaker 2: at a comedy and read a script and you're like,
33:41
Speaker 2: there's potential.
33:42
Speaker 3: Here, Like it's about collaboration, I'm assuming, but.
33:45
Speaker 6: Yeah, it has to be collaboration. It has to be
33:48
Speaker 6: you know. Can I see myself doing this for a
33:52
Speaker 6: certain amount of time, right, like for years? In success?
33:56
Speaker 6: I do agree with you that I think it's weird
33:59
Speaker 6: to have to be playing such soft comedy on these networks.
34:04
Speaker 6: No offense to the networks, it's just when you have
34:07
Speaker 6: the Internet to compete with, right, You know what I mean,
34:10
Speaker 6: If you know that is your thing that you have
34:13
Speaker 6: to go, you have to adapt, right, And that's kind
34:16
Speaker 6: of I feel has been the slow demise of our
34:20
Speaker 6: industry is them refusing to adapt until it's too late.
34:24
Speaker 4: Right.
34:25
Speaker 2: It's like, well, when they're trying to appeild too many
34:28
Speaker 2: and they're trying to tell brands like a Chevy or
34:32
Speaker 2: like a state farm or like or whatever, and you're saying, like,
34:35
Speaker 2: here's where you know America is. You know, they have
34:39
Speaker 2: to kind of water down everything. But what they I
34:42
Speaker 2: think they feeling. We talk about this some exime, but
34:43
Speaker 2: I love to get your perspective on this stuff because
34:47
Speaker 2: because it's specificity, it's mainstream. When the moment you make
34:52
Speaker 2: it too true to too many people, one likes no
34:55
Speaker 2: one likes it. So it's like this common denominator where
34:58
Speaker 2: I feel like we got to change this this paradigm
35:00
Speaker 2: at some point.
35:01
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it goes to what you were saying
35:03
Speaker 8: earlier about good comedy is having freedom right, you use
35:08
Speaker 8: that word freedom right, and what you just said about
35:10
Speaker 8: competing against what's online online, they have the freedom to
35:13
Speaker 8: do whatever the heck they want, right, So it's coming
35:16
Speaker 8: from a very very pure, very honest place, and that's
35:19
Speaker 8: what's getting traction. So going back to what you're saying about,
35:23
Speaker 8: you know, the network's having an answer to Chevy and
35:26
Speaker 8: having an answer to these people.
35:27
Speaker 1: It's like, how do you bridge the gap?
35:29
Speaker 8: How do you how do you tell Chevy and and
35:31
Speaker 8: and some of their sponsors that this is what's in
35:34
Speaker 8: right now and take a very specific stance about what
35:37
Speaker 8: type of comedy is going to bode well on their
35:39
Speaker 8: network as opposed to like, let's let's do some sort
35:42
Speaker 8: of soft, broad stroke comedy, you know, which, as you said,
35:46
Speaker 8: they're they're they're losing in that regard, right. We had
35:48
Speaker 8: we had a conversation about comedy and what comedies you
35:50
Speaker 8: like and what's what's hard hitting and what's not you know,
35:53
Speaker 8: and and I agree.
35:55
Speaker 1: With you, I think some of that it's missing.
35:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, most of them, you know, most people's favorite comic
36:00
Speaker 6: of these are from like ten to fifteen years ago.
36:03
Speaker 4: And that's a bad thing.
36:05
Speaker 1: Yes, what do you like.
36:07
Speaker 6: Dam No, I'm just saying like like popular like like
36:10
Speaker 6: a step Brothers or a tele exactly.
36:14
Speaker 3: We'll be able to guess what just happened.
36:15
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just perfect timing, right, and like I'm
36:17
Speaker 2: not trying to give them any you know, any but
36:19
Speaker 2: there's a certain phone company, right. I can't mention them
36:22
Speaker 2: on because you know, shout out to all of our
36:24
Speaker 2: phone sponsors here, but but there's a phone company that
36:28
Speaker 2: just dropped the commercial and it's straight up a parody
36:32
Speaker 2: of Austin Powers with Mike Myers and Seth Green and
36:36
Speaker 2: Rob Low. Like they just straight up a scene, the
36:40
Speaker 2: dining room scene that they're always you know, kind of
36:42
Speaker 2: they're always just talking to each other whatever.
36:44
Speaker 3: But anyways, and this phone company created this.
36:46
Speaker 2: And so when you think about companies, those were some
36:50
Speaker 2: of the first hard hitting mainstream parody companies. The tropic
36:54
Speaker 2: Thunders of the world, right, the Team Americas of the world.
36:58
Speaker 2: You know, when you think about that, and you think
37:01
Speaker 2: about how a phone company who's supposed to appeal to
37:04
Speaker 2: so many when in grab the one last one of
37:08
Speaker 2: the last few nostalgic moments that you're describing and say,
37:11
Speaker 2: this is how we connect most right?
37:14
Speaker 3: How specific that is.
37:16
Speaker 2: Doctor Evil telling you, you know, asking about this in
37:18
Speaker 2: straight up Mac Marris.
37:19
Speaker 3: You know, it's, I guess, a very very interesting thing
37:22
Speaker 3: to think about.
37:22
Speaker 2: But you know, when you develop comedy today, you know,
37:26
Speaker 2: and you're because you're you're a prolific producer. You've produced
37:29
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. You're produced scripted and non scripted,
37:32
Speaker 2: and you know, how do you where do you draw?
37:38
Speaker 2: Is it more difficult nowadays to be inspired on like
37:41
Speaker 2: to make companies knowing that you have this uphill battle
37:45
Speaker 2: with networks and and and cable networks and streaming platforms
37:48
Speaker 2: when it comes to making comedy, or.
37:50
Speaker 6: I would say so, I think it's definitely an uphill battle.
37:54
Speaker 6: But it's not impossible, right because there are people that
37:58
Speaker 6: are doing it. You know, you have like the Bill
38:01
Speaker 6: Lawrences of the world who have found their niche. You know,
38:05
Speaker 6: you have access to different people that can kind of
38:10
Speaker 6: help your vision come to fuition. But it is definitely
38:14
Speaker 6: like you're gonna hear a lot of nose, You're gonna
38:16
Speaker 6: hear a lot of You're gonna have to adjust a lot.
38:20
Speaker 6: I think people are more geared towards dramedy. They don't
38:22
Speaker 6: really even really know what like a full blown comedy is,
38:26
Speaker 6: you know, and I think that, you know, my family's
38:31
Speaker 6: movie that just came out, the parody movie is is
38:34
Speaker 6: it kind of a testament to how hungry these audiences
38:38
Speaker 6: are for just a laugh out loud comedy, like we
38:42
Speaker 6: need that, especially nowadays. So I think the tide is
38:46
Speaker 6: kind of turning. They I think they announced right after
38:49
Speaker 6: the success of the Scary Movie. They announced twenty four
38:54
Speaker 6: Jump Street, right, twenty three Jump Street. I was twenty
38:58
Speaker 6: three Jump Street, Okay, yeah, so they're they're they announced that.
39:02
Speaker 6: So I feel like the tides are kind of turning,
39:04
Speaker 6: and people are starting to kind of open up and
39:09
Speaker 6: let these comedies in. And so hopefully there's a resurgence,
39:13
Speaker 6: like you know, you know, you know, everything cyclical anyways,
39:16
Speaker 6: So it went away, but then it's coming and and
39:20
Speaker 6: I hope it keeps coming.
39:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even the comedy keeps.
39:23
Speaker 4: Coming and coming.
39:24
Speaker 3: Excuse me, you're talking about comedy.
39:28
Speaker 4: Coming, funny stuff just like I need it in my face.
39:32
Speaker 6: Oh yes, it's a metaphor comedy, comedy all over in
39:37
Speaker 6: a funny way.
39:38
Speaker 4: Yeah.
39:39
Speaker 1: Even then, I thought I thought the show you did
39:43
Speaker 1: with your pop was really good.
39:44
Speaker 4: Man, that was fun.
39:45
Speaker 8: It was Oh man, it was so good on so
39:48
Speaker 8: many different levels. First of all, just seeing you what
39:51
Speaker 8: you pop together, I thought was so cool. I can't
39:54
Speaker 8: remember the last time I saw something like that, And
39:57
Speaker 8: and I felt like I was watching it. And even
39:59
Speaker 8: though it was network work and obviously within the parameters
40:01
Speaker 8: of what the network allows, I was like, ah, I'm
40:05
Speaker 8: watching weigh in style comedy again. Uh, And I can
40:11
Speaker 8: feel it coming through, even even like, hey now right now,
40:17
Speaker 8: even through the parameters or that, you know, And I
40:20
Speaker 8: grew up on your family's comedy, you know, like I
40:23
Speaker 8: was in high school when In Living Color came out,
40:25
Speaker 8: Like I was, you know, I'm very much of that generation,
40:29
Speaker 8: so I'm very much in tune with what that comedy is.
40:32
Speaker 1: So when I saw that, I liked it for all
40:34
Speaker 1: of those different reasons.
40:35
Speaker 8: But I really saw your Family's comedy come through, and
40:38
Speaker 8: I wish, I wish it would have kept going.
40:40
Speaker 1: I was an avid, avid watcher.
40:41
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Man.
40:43
Speaker 6: I definitely felt like, especially towards the end of the season,
40:46
Speaker 6: we were really kind of finding the footing of the
40:49
Speaker 6: show of what the show is, you know, you know,
40:50
Speaker 6: in the first couple of episodes, you're always experimenting. You're going, Okay,
40:54
Speaker 6: what's working with this guy, what's not working with this guy?
40:57
Speaker 6: And so like towards the end, I was like, Okay,
40:59
Speaker 6: this is kind of where we're supposed to be. And
41:02
Speaker 6: unfortunately it didn't go forward, but it would have been
41:05
Speaker 6: a lot of that's a show that I could have
41:06
Speaker 6: done for, you know, season after season. It's also really
41:10
Speaker 6: cool having like we had so much family, you know,
41:13
Speaker 6: on the production, and.
41:15
Speaker 1: My aunt was there.
41:16
Speaker 6: She directed a bunch of them, so my daughter was
41:19
Speaker 6: like helping out to my oldest. My oldest too, were
41:23
Speaker 6: actually helping out a lot and they were learning a lot.
41:27
Speaker 6: So it was like really cool seeing like generations of Waynes.
41:30
Speaker 6: Everybody looked like each other.
41:31
Speaker 4: It was really cool.
41:33
Speaker 6: And then and then we also had a lot of
41:35
Speaker 6: people that were like from my dad's My Wife and
41:37
Speaker 6: Kids show. They were on there like doing beyond the
41:40
Speaker 6: camera grip work. So it was just it just felt
41:43
Speaker 6: so familial.
41:45
Speaker 2: So your is your is your family getting the bug?
41:47
Speaker 2: Does any of your of your.
41:49
Speaker 6: Oldest daughter is she's a really good actress and she
41:54
Speaker 6: an episode, yeah, very how she did an episode of
41:58
Speaker 6: the show, and she was, you know, it's her first thing,
42:02
Speaker 6: and so it was really cool. She didn't have to audition, though,
42:04
Speaker 6: oh she did audition. She one time, one time.
42:09
Speaker 4: More lean than my uncles were to me.
42:13
Speaker 6: But how is she not she's twenty three. Yeah, man, yeah,
42:17
Speaker 6: it's big girl.
42:18
Speaker 2: And and and she she's she feels like you think
42:22
Speaker 2: comedy is what she's kind of leaning towards.
42:23
Speaker 3: So that she's going to be both.
42:25
Speaker 6: You know, I think she comedians can Yeah, she's she's funny,
42:29
Speaker 6: but she's also like, I think her instinct might be drama.
42:35
Speaker 4: But uh, she can do it all. You know.
42:37
Speaker 6: I think she's a she's a really she takes it seriously.
42:40
Speaker 6: She's always an acting class. She's always she's doing plays.
42:44
Speaker 6: She went to she went to Europe to like learn
42:47
Speaker 6: how to do theater and stuff like that for the summer.
42:50
Speaker 6: So she's she's actually like really you know, applying herself.
42:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's doing the hours.
42:55
Speaker 4: Doing the work. You gotta do the work.
42:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, the work is what keeps you around, you know,
43:00
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah that's great.
43:03
Speaker 3: Do you you do how often are you doing stand
43:05
Speaker 3: up right now?
43:06
Speaker 6: Probably like two three weekends a month. Usually I book
43:10
Speaker 6: in my month, so I have time with the fam.
43:12
Speaker 6: I'll do like the first week and then the last week.
43:15
Speaker 6: But right now, because I'm gearing up for a special
43:18
Speaker 6: stand up special?
43:19
Speaker 3: Way can you talk about that?
43:20
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean that's just kind of what I'm
43:22
Speaker 6: you know, I have an hour and I'm just kind
43:24
Speaker 6: of really going through it and seeing like what would
43:26
Speaker 6: I keep you know, from this hour? Uh and put
43:30
Speaker 6: it on on television or what wouldn't I and switching
43:33
Speaker 6: things up, adding personal material like I was telling you about, And.
43:37
Speaker 3: Where where is this special going to be?
43:39
Speaker 1: Oh, we don't.
43:39
Speaker 4: I don't even don't even know yet.
43:41
Speaker 6: I'm doing DC in early July, so and everybody says,
43:46
Speaker 6: shoot your special there. So I'm going to go there
43:48
Speaker 6: for the first time and see how it feels, and
43:49
Speaker 6: if I love it, I'm frigaking That's where I'll do it.
43:52
Speaker 3: That's cool.
43:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's been a lot of fun.
43:54
Speaker 6: So I've been going up a lot more now because
43:57
Speaker 6: I want to be ready, you know, and you have
43:59
Speaker 6: to kind of like drill your jokes to where it's like,
44:02
Speaker 6: you know, and squeeze out any kind of you know,
44:05
Speaker 6: extra material within each bit. You're like, Okay, where can
44:08
Speaker 6: I take this and yeah, it's been a lot of fun.
44:10
Speaker 6: It's a lot of work, but that's the grind.
44:15
Speaker 2: I look at you and Jake and Lamore and all
44:18
Speaker 2: those guys as like, you know, you you guys are
44:21
Speaker 2: in this very excited and honestly, I wish I was
44:27
Speaker 2: sometimes when I see you guys be this free to
44:30
Speaker 2: go out there and be and like just do comedy
44:32
Speaker 2: and get back to and do it and developing it
44:35
Speaker 2: and producing it and making it all of stuff.
44:37
Speaker 3: I get.
44:38
Speaker 2: I get crazy FuMO too when I see you guys,
44:41
Speaker 2: because you guys are are you know, you're at a
44:44
Speaker 2: place in your careers right now where like comedy is
44:47
Speaker 2: such a great brand for you guys, and it just feels,
44:53
Speaker 2: you know, it feels like you guys are at this
44:55
Speaker 2: moment where you could be defining.
44:59
Speaker 3: Defining what comedy.
45:00
Speaker 2: Is going to be, you know, for the next ten
45:02
Speaker 2: years and the moment you guys and now that you
45:05
Speaker 2: guys are at the place in your careers where you
45:07
Speaker 2: guys actually can now make the stuff. You're not just
45:10
Speaker 2: being casting it, you're producing it, you're writing it, you're
45:13
Speaker 2: directing it.
45:14
Speaker 4: All.
45:14
Speaker 2: You guys have a really interesting way to start a
45:16
Speaker 2: whole new generation, like you know, when Apato created the
45:20
Speaker 2: League of Extraordinary straight Men, you know, and you think about,
45:24
Speaker 2: you know, this generation where people can just be a
45:26
Speaker 2: little bit more out loud with their comedy. I think
45:28
Speaker 2: that you guys all have like a really good opportunity
45:31
Speaker 2: to kind of voltron into like what comedy can be next.
45:35
Speaker 4: That's very interesting.
45:36
Speaker 6: I never thought about it like that, being able to
45:38
Speaker 6: kind of set the tone for what.
45:41
Speaker 3: Because there's no one else.
45:42
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you that right now, Like there's a lot
45:44
Speaker 2: of great superstars right like there's the Marlin right then
45:47
Speaker 2: there's like the Ben Steelers, and then there's the you know,
45:51
Speaker 2: the Paul Rods of the world. Right and I can
45:53
Speaker 2: and you can tell that these are safe bets. But
45:57
Speaker 2: with you guys, you don't have to play safe because
46:00
Speaker 2: you will make comedy consumable for masses because now you
46:05
Speaker 2: carry a little bit of nostalgia and you carry a
46:08
Speaker 2: lot of bit.
46:09
Speaker 1: Of right now.
46:10
Speaker 2: And I think that you guys bonding together and locking
46:13
Speaker 2: arms to you know, to create that league where you
46:16
Speaker 2: guys are just shopping each other's things and helping each
46:19
Speaker 2: other's stuff move forward. You could pay another grade decade
46:23
Speaker 2: of comedy, and it will be it will be justice,
46:25
Speaker 2: to be honest, I love that.
46:26
Speaker 6: I think that it's you know, I think the fact
46:30
Speaker 6: that we're all buddies really helps to and none of
46:34
Speaker 6: those guys have egos and so they're always you know,
46:37
Speaker 6: you call them in for a favor, they call you
46:39
Speaker 6: in for a favor. And it's like you said, it's
46:41
Speaker 6: just like everybody shows up, and everybody shows up to
46:45
Speaker 6: really to make each other laugh. Like that's what we
46:48
Speaker 6: like to, We like to, that's what who we're trying
46:51
Speaker 6: to make laugh, not even the audience, and the audience laughs,
46:54
Speaker 6: you know, you know, just as a result of how
46:57
Speaker 6: much we enjoy being around each other. But that is
46:59
Speaker 6: a really idea, like just like going in there and
47:02
Speaker 6: trying to figure out how can we put our stamp
47:06
Speaker 6: on the comedic game. And I think it's really cool,
47:09
Speaker 6: you know, I think because I think we're all individually
47:11
Speaker 6: doing great work, but I think collectively we could do something.
47:14
Speaker 2: Imagine how trusted you would be at any studio or
47:17
Speaker 2: any streaming platform, you.
47:18
Speaker 3: Know, you working us your night at front.
47:20
Speaker 2: It takes a village to make one thing anyway, So
47:22
Speaker 2: it's not like it's not an ego about credit or
47:25
Speaker 2: who's on that screen and who's it's really about, like
47:28
Speaker 2: continuing to create an investible industry and the genre itself
47:33
Speaker 2: is suffering.
47:34
Speaker 4: Yeah.
47:35
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean your family did it, right, your uncles
47:38
Speaker 8: did it.
47:39
Speaker 3: Moved on TV show.
47:40
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I know Marlon is a brother, but
47:43
Speaker 8: he's of a different generation, you know, and he did it,
47:46
Speaker 8: and so like you're just the next guy in line,
47:49
Speaker 8: and you've earned that position.
47:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you guys are you guys are crushing
47:55
Speaker 4: it right now? Yeah?
47:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I'm saying like you're preaching to the choir
47:58
Speaker 6: for sure and that. But also I didn't really think
48:02
Speaker 6: about the whole idea of you know, revolutionizing uh you know,
48:07
Speaker 6: the comedy space potentially, you know, especially because now there's
48:12
Speaker 6: stuff is coming out. I was watching the show. I
48:14
Speaker 6: don't know if you're allowed to say shows names. Yeah,
48:17
Speaker 6: Widow's Bay, I've seen that. I really love how they're
48:23
Speaker 6: they're writing that tone. I feel like that tone of
48:25
Speaker 6: like where there's scares, there's thrills, but like the funny
48:28
Speaker 6: is actually like genuinely funny.
48:31
Speaker 4: I think it's so.
48:33
Speaker 6: You know, I think there I think it's such an
48:35
Speaker 6: experiment that's actually working for them because.
48:38
Speaker 4: Nobody's doing that like that, nobody's doing.
48:41
Speaker 6: Horror but like funny but never, you know, so funny
48:47
Speaker 6: that it's making you not look at the horror as
48:50
Speaker 6: actual threats.
48:51
Speaker 1: It's unconventional.
48:53
Speaker 8: It's unconventional the same way that you said that the
48:56
Speaker 8: stuff you're seeing online is unconventional. And and that's why
49:00
Speaker 8: I think you're responding. I'm with it, man, I'm caught up.
49:04
Speaker 8: I'm like, this is crazy different. It's very reminiscent of
49:07
Speaker 8: stuff that Hero Mariah has done before with.
49:09
Speaker 1: Atlanta and the other stuff that he directed for. So
49:12
Speaker 1: I'm very talented.
49:14
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that, Like you said, I think the
49:17
Speaker 6: Internet just the the existence of the Internet has kind
49:21
Speaker 6: of blurred so many lines.
49:23
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no passports needed.
49:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just this is the best time to experiment.
49:28
Speaker 2: That's right, And you know what you are going to
49:31
Speaker 2: be received in ways that you didn't expect, I'll tell you.
49:35
Speaker 2: And you know, Freddie and I have found so many
49:38
Speaker 2: rabbit holes that when we get to the bottom of
49:42
Speaker 2: the rabbit hole, you realize, Man, it should have been
49:44
Speaker 2: that easy, or it should have been that simple so
49:47
Speaker 2: many years ago, you know, and our best form of
49:51
Speaker 2: survival by the way, there I say, when it comes
49:55
Speaker 2: to even content that we're talking about, is our ability
50:01
Speaker 2: to kind of lock arms with one another is what
50:04
Speaker 2: reassures the survival of genres, of industries and all that stuff,
50:07
Speaker 2: because you know, in order to be trusted, you you
50:10
Speaker 2: kind of have to do it together, you know. And
50:12
Speaker 2: I look at you know, and you know, one of
50:15
Speaker 2: one of the things that I'm really proud about our
50:17
Speaker 2: friendship is that we've always looked at like black and
50:20
Speaker 2: brown as like how do we not do this more often?
50:24
Speaker 2: Like how are we not developing and starting in each
50:27
Speaker 2: other's stories and like supporting each other's endeavors and like
50:31
Speaker 2: in fueling our audiences because I really believe that, you know,
50:34
Speaker 2: the African American community, in the in the Latino community
50:39
Speaker 2: have an inlands amounts of relativity, Like they just connect
50:44
Speaker 2: to each other in so many vital and critical values,
50:49
Speaker 2: and we fail to tell our story together, you know,
50:53
Speaker 2: And I think it's a really exciting time. And then
50:56
Speaker 2: there is like that next generation of like who else
50:59
Speaker 2: comes to the full because I really do think the
51:01
Speaker 2: Asian community should be you know, united, like then you know,
51:05
Speaker 2: the you know, the the white community should be. And
51:09
Speaker 2: then you know, we have brothers of all brothers and
51:12
Speaker 2: sisters of all different cultures who are ready for that
51:15
Speaker 2: revolutionary moment where we can just take genres and be like,
51:19
Speaker 2: if you're really you know, if you're a studio, if
51:20
Speaker 2: you're a streaming platform, and you need relevance, like we
51:24
Speaker 2: can provide, right, were old enough, we're young enough, and
51:26
Speaker 2: were we all are shopping together, but it is that
51:30
Speaker 2: segregated kind of approach of like, well, I'm going to
51:33
Speaker 2: try to sell a show, you know, and you're like,
51:35
Speaker 2: you're out there by yourself. And I mean we both
51:37
Speaker 2: have had pot deals at major studios and and you know,
51:42
Speaker 2: sometimes it's easier to cook together than it is to
51:45
Speaker 2: like serve a meal on our own.
51:46
Speaker 6: I fully agree, you know, and I think that I
51:50
Speaker 6: think a great way of doing it kind of harkening
51:53
Speaker 6: back to what you were saying about, you know, the
51:56
Speaker 6: whole New Girl guys of it all is doing it
52:01
Speaker 6: in an organic way that's not necessarily preachy, and it's
52:04
Speaker 6: just happening.
52:05
Speaker 4: You know.
52:05
Speaker 6: It's like how and Living Color came out and it
52:08
Speaker 6: was very multi racial, and they weren't trying to be
52:13
Speaker 6: multi racial it was just a bunch of talented people
52:15
Speaker 6: that kind of had the same goal of being really
52:17
Speaker 6: funny and really innovative. And I think that like matching
52:22
Speaker 6: that with the black and brown that, you know, especially
52:27
Speaker 6: we're doing comedy, that we just seem to do it
52:29
Speaker 6: and not really think about what message we're trying to portray.
52:33
Speaker 6: It's more so of just like this is how you
52:36
Speaker 6: and I are when we're when the cameras aren't on,
52:39
Speaker 6: and we just bring that onto onto the screen in
52:42
Speaker 6: a really funny, you know, organic way, And I think.
52:46
Speaker 4: I think that's the key.
52:47
Speaker 6: The key is doing it in a way that's not preachy,
52:52
Speaker 6: because that's when people.
52:53
Speaker 2: Go like we should we should also, I think entertain
53:00
Speaker 2: men carry the burden of so much social work and
53:04
Speaker 2: justice work that we forgot the superpower of itself and
53:09
Speaker 2: the DNA of entertainment, that is, we're supposed to bring
53:12
Speaker 2: all of us together in one theater, all of us
53:15
Speaker 2: together in a living room, like that's what entertainment superpower
53:20
Speaker 2: is is in bringing differences into a room, acknowledging that
53:26
Speaker 2: we can allow to exist and coexist, and that we're
53:31
Speaker 2: also allowed to laugh at the same joke, you know,
53:34
Speaker 2: and I think that is the first healing power that
53:38
Speaker 2: entertainment should should you know, to re infuse into entertainment,
53:42
Speaker 2: because if entertainment is going to have a future at all,
53:45
Speaker 2: let's not even like get the even more meta on
53:48
Speaker 2: the issues and the fractures and the holes on the
53:51
Speaker 2: boat that the Hollywood industry has right now. If we're
53:54
Speaker 2: going to survive as an industry, if we're going to
53:56
Speaker 2: continue to bring people together, we got to go back
53:58
Speaker 2: to entertaining. Now, that doesn't say that we can be true,
54:02
Speaker 2: truthful to our characters dilemmas and truths as audience members.
54:06
Speaker 2: Because you talked about your your you know, your stand
54:09
Speaker 2: up you know routines, and how every time you created
54:12
Speaker 2: the the you know, the related the relab reliability between
54:16
Speaker 2: the audience and your stories. You know, there's got to
54:20
Speaker 2: be a level of truth to what these characters go
54:23
Speaker 2: through in real life if you're gonna make these characters
54:26
Speaker 2: relatable on screen. So that's there's always going to be that,
54:29
Speaker 2: you know, but it is about going for like, if
54:31
Speaker 2: this is supposed to make you laugh, how do we
54:33
Speaker 2: make you laugh harder? If this is supposed to make
54:35
Speaker 2: you think you know about about paranormal stuff.
54:39
Speaker 3: Like how do we make you? You know, I think that's.
54:42
Speaker 2: The type of conversation that I think that a lot
54:43
Speaker 2: of these creative groups have to have to do. And
54:45
Speaker 2: I think it has to be those who are young
54:46
Speaker 2: enough and old enough.
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Speaker 4: Right, because there, you know, we've seen.
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Speaker 6: Just by a box office now that there is an
54:55
Speaker 6: audience that is being underserved.
54:58
Speaker 4: Right.
54:58
Speaker 6: So you have movies like Upset and back Room, right,
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Speaker 6: these are overperforming on a level that we haven't seen
55:05
Speaker 6: since Blair Witch. And it's because they're speaking the language
55:10
Speaker 6: of this audience that has not been served. You know,
55:14
Speaker 6: We've been given you know, superhero movies for almost two
55:18
Speaker 6: decades now, and so now we're finally getting a little
55:21
Speaker 6: fatigue and allowing these other ideas and these other people,
55:27
Speaker 6: these other generations to thrive. And I think that that's
55:30
Speaker 6: kind of where we need to gear ourselves towards too.
55:32
Speaker 6: It's like teaching the audience is how to appreciate freedom again,
55:38
Speaker 6: you know, because I think for a while it was
55:40
Speaker 6: kind of like, you know, you know, watch what you
55:43
Speaker 6: and so everybody's fear based. But now I feel like
55:46
Speaker 6: these new generations and current generations are freer and so
55:51
Speaker 6: it's like, let them be free. Let's see where this
55:54
Speaker 6: lands and capitalize off it. There's so much money to
55:57
Speaker 6: be made off of letting people be free.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I think you you said it earlier.
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Speaker 2: I mean you said it so eloquently earlier when you
56:04
Speaker 2: said that. The reason why, you know, there's so many
56:08
Speaker 2: different uh the signs the point that we have to
56:12
Speaker 2: go back to the strengths of storytelling, which is like,
56:14
Speaker 2: oh the ones. The Internet made it all current and
56:18
Speaker 2: relevant and present. The movies were now behind mm hmm, right,
56:22
Speaker 2: like TV shows were reacting too late, you know, and
56:25
Speaker 2: there and then you have marketing companies, you know, literally
56:28
Speaker 2: reacting to a trend like a month after it's gone,
56:31
Speaker 2: you know. So I think that the point, the point
56:34
Speaker 2: we're making is is is is such an interesting, uh
56:38
Speaker 2: exciting jump off for for the envy to intersect.
56:41
Speaker 4: There used to be more of an intersect.
56:42
Speaker 6: There needs the the the old world need to meet
56:47
Speaker 6: with the new world and shake hands and not fu
56:49
Speaker 6: they're not enemies, work together and freaking you know, and
56:54
Speaker 6: it'll and it'll actually help keep our industry alive and
56:58
Speaker 6: help the newer industry thrive. It's like, how does this
57:01
Speaker 6: not make sense. Yeah, how are we fixing it? Should
57:05
Speaker 6: be the people who are getting paid it to do
57:08
Speaker 6: all these things fixing the problem.
57:12
Speaker 8: I think what's wonderful about the obsessions in the back
57:14
Speaker 8: rooms of the world is that it was it was
57:18
Speaker 8: made through people of a certain generation where they had
57:21
Speaker 8: access to things like YouTube, right, where instead of a
57:25
Speaker 8: generation or a producer or somebody going to the studios
57:29
Speaker 8: and saying this is what we want, right, they actually
57:33
Speaker 8: just went and kind of did it themselves. And they're
57:35
Speaker 8: showing the studios what they want, and they're showing the
57:39
Speaker 8: commercial viability of that. And I think that that that's
57:42
Speaker 8: really powerful because at the end of the day, all
57:45
Speaker 8: they care about is making money, right, Yeah, And they're
57:47
Speaker 8: proven that this type of comedy or pardoning this type
57:50
Speaker 8: of horror makes money.
57:53
Speaker 1: And so like, how do we how do we continue
57:55
Speaker 1: to do that on that level?
57:56
Speaker 8: Right, instead of us going in and saying, hey, the
57:58
Speaker 8: comedy you're doing on your new work is not resonating
58:01
Speaker 8: with this audience, right, those are just words. So like,
58:04
Speaker 8: how do we do that the way that back rooms
58:07
Speaker 8: and obsession did it, so that we can prove to
58:10
Speaker 8: them in a tangible way that we could do it
58:14
Speaker 8: instead of just telling them we're pitching themself.
58:17
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's that vultron mentality.
58:19
Speaker 2: We just got to stop the bullshit, stop the the
58:22
Speaker 2: you know, the solo missions, and just we just got
58:25
Speaker 2: to be a union now. We got to all kind
58:27
Speaker 2: of come together in lockcarner and say, like, how do
58:29
Speaker 2: we push this new generation of comedy forward? How do
58:32
Speaker 2: we make it mainstream and marketable again and also investible again.
58:36
Speaker 2: I think that's that's that's part of the next journey.
58:38
Speaker 2: But but but then, man, I'm just just so grateful
58:42
Speaker 2: that you're coming and and I'm.
58:43
Speaker 3: So grateful for you.
58:45
Speaker 2: Ye, so grateful, very grateful for you, super grateful speaking
58:50
Speaker 2: of kids.
58:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait, what do you mean speaking of kids?
58:55
Speaker 3: I just sometimes it looks great. I don't know.
58:57
Speaker 4: I just said I'm grateful.
58:58
Speaker 3: Okay, here have you here?
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I'm very happy to be here with you guys.
59:03
Speaker 6: You guys are they were really trying to figure out
59:06
Speaker 6: some some real problems, you know. I think that's really cool.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, And congratulations.
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Speaker 8: As I said, I've been a big fan of your
59:15
Speaker 8: family and and and the legacy and the comedy and
59:17
Speaker 8: and uh, you know, I'm.
59:19
Speaker 1: A fan of yours man, so so so thank you
59:21
Speaker 1: for coming.
59:21
Speaker 3: You need a podcast, bro?
59:22
Speaker 4: Yeah really I don't know. I would just sit on
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Speaker 3: I got two hours of sleep. You can see my eyes.
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Speaker 4: Peace, pease eight fool fool