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MINI SCROLL: QTCinderella backlash, Rare Beauty shady comment, Cami Mendes engaged, Kim Kardashian as Jay Guapo + more · Mini Scroll

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  of the year. OK, the first story that I have
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  for you guys is I want to talk about how Twitch streamer QT
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  Cinderella has found herself in the middle of some controversy.
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  So QT Cinderella was doing a stream with vanilla Mace and KDB
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  where QT made a couple of comments that were not well
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  received. We didn't see the stream in
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  full, but there have been clips floating around on TikTok.
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  And of course, according to comments and viewers of the
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  stream, it seems like the three we're talking about what it's
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  like for their chats to infantilize them.
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  Before QT, Cinderella changed the subject to talk about the
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  hate that she's been receiving lately.
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  Now this turned into a bit more of a rant from her where she
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  started talking about how viewers get frustrated with her
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  for being associated with problematic influencers and
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  streamers. She essentially questioned why
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  she should be expected to cut these people off, and she was
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  basically saying that love is more important than hate in
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  these scenarios. The classic argument that if you
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  just guide someone with love and acceptance that they will
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  change. I'm not going to change though.
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  I'm not going to. I will never believe that.
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  If I'm kind to a hateful person, that means I agree with them.
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  I will never believe in that. No matter what you guys say, I
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  won't believe it because at the end of the day, if I'm around a
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  racist person, I'm just not racist.
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  I'm not me, I am not. They are, yes, but how am I
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  supposed to help them ever? Am I cutting them off?
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  No. I get it, you guys can think in
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  black and white, but that's not how it works over here.
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  OK, so Vanilla and Katie were mostly silent during this
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  conversation, and both of them were visibly uncomfortable.
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  After the conversation, QT Cinderella did make a comment
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  about deleting the Vods in case her take was too controversial,
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  maybe to protect herself or possibly to protect the others,
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  but many feel obviously like she was trying to just delete the
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  evidence. So people are really upset with
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  QT Cinderella's comments. They're also frustrated by the
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  fact that she chose to talk about it in this collaborative
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  stream, which brought Katie and Vanilla into it when they
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  wouldn't have otherwise been involved.
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  One tick Tocker named Sarah had an interesting take on this,
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  talking about how bigger streamers are almost always
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  capitalizing off of smaller slash newer ones.
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  I was one of the people that watched the stream last night
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  and oh do I have something to say.
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  I think it just really bugs me that there are a new wave of
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  streamers that are becoming more popular that again taken
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  advantage of from other big streamers by using their
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  platform to speak their mind truly to get their point across
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  to other people's platforms. What a friend to be by sharing
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  your thoughts about something that is very hot to someone in a
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  collaborated stream. That being said, most people did
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  recognize how awkward this was for Katie and Vanilla, but they
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  wish that they would have pushed back harder on the stream.
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  Some people believe that Vanilla held the same beliefs as Cutie
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  Cinderella based on her comments, while others claim
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  that she was just trying to de escalate the situation.
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  Since then, Katie has spoken out about the stream, saying that
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  she never intended it to go the way that it did, and Vanilla did
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  speak to her audience after the stream, where many viewers were
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  saying that she cried about the situation.
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  However, there aren't really any clips of this circulating
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  online, and we weren't watching in real time, obviously, so I
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  can't really confirm this. Yeah.
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  So this take is super disappointing.
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  I mean, if you are part of a marginalized or minority group
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  that is facing discrimination, probably the last thing that you
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  would want people who are supporting you to do is to treat
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  others with like love and acceptance when those people who
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  are being dehumanizing towards you are obviously not even
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  looking at you in many cases as a human.
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  And I do understand why viewers are upset that they didn't push
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  back enough on her. All right, the next story that I
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  have for you guys, it's been making the rounds that the rare
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  beauty TikTok account seemingly commented on a post about Justin
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  Bieber. I don't want to beat a dead
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  horse. You're OK.
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  Everyone is so tired of hearing about Justin Bieber and Selena
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  Gomez and Hailey Bieber and all of this.
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  But there is some interesting discourse that's emerged from
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  this. Basically, a TikTok user named
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  the Marina Marie posted a clip. The caption POV making Justin
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  Bieber mad with my Rare Beauty gloss.
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  In the video, the creator is applying the lip gloss and then
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  seemingly pans to Justin Bieber in real life.
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  The Rare Beauty account then commented on the TikTok with the
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  hard eyes emoji. There has been a lot of
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  conversation to emerge since users discovered the comment.
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  These are some of the biggest running theories on why the Rare
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  Beauty account would comment this First, many users argue
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  that this is just another example of Selena Gomez feeding
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  into the drama between her and Haley.
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  I don't know. I'm not sure if that's entirely
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  fair because this wasn't posted from her personal account.
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  And I do have a hard time believing that Selena Gomez is
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  like, in charge of the Rare Beauty social account.
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  Do I think she has access to a? Probably, but do I think that
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  she is the one that's like trolling the comments and
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  replying to things like probably not.
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  But that being said, this feeds into a conversation that we've
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  had on this podcast for several years about brands getting
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  involved in like Internet drama and how kind of icky and bizarre
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  that is. In a similar vein, other TikTok
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  users are convinced that this is manufactured drama for Selena,
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  Justin and Haley to stay relevant along with their
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  brands. As one user wrote on Reddit
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  quote here we are talking about it.
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  It gets the name out there. Super fans may want to further
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  their parasocial relationship and purchase the brand because
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  they're Team Selena. And then there's those that
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  think it's weird but want to talk about it.
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  So we do, and the brand's name gets out there further.
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  I actually don't subscribe to this theory because both Rare
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  and Road are very high quality brands, especially Rare.
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  Rare's products can stand alone outside of Selena Gomez's name,
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  and I think a lot of Roads products can as well.
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  Both of these women do not need this manufactured drama to drum
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  up sales and, you know, to get people to purchase.
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  Their brands have proven time and time again that they are
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  high quality and people want to purchase from them regardless of
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  the drama involved. And lastly, the other theory is
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  that this possibly proves that the Rare Beauty account has bots
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  programs to comment on post that they're tagged in.
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  This is the theory I subscribe to the most.
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  I think it's possible that Rare Beauty has comment bots set up
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  for videos that they're tagged in with certain keywords or
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  whatever where they just comment like hard eyes and stuff because
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  think about how much they are getting tagged on TikTok.
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  And it's of course important for them to continually engage with
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  their community. So I think this is the most
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  likely one because also, like, if that's not the case and there
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  was an actual human who is not Selena Gomez that commented this
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  on that video, like they would have put their job at such risk.
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  I just don't believe that somebody in the company would
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  have done this. I don't know, maybe that's naive
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  of me. OK, the next story that I have
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  for you guys is that Camila Mendez and Rudy Mancuso are
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  engaged. So these are not people that we
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  frequently talk about here on Mini Scroll.
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  But Rudy is an OG Viner turned musician and Camila is obviously
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  an actress, having starred in some Gen.
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  Z classics like Riverdale and Do Revenge.
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  The pair announced their engagement on socials with a
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  joint post and a caption that read Engaged to My Best Friend.
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  The two have been romantically linked since 2022, but their
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  relationship was confirmed the following year.
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  They met while filming the ROM com Musica Musica.
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  I'm sorry, I don't know how to say that.
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  With the two reportedly having chemistry since Camilla's first
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  on screen test. As for the engagement, Rudy
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  proposed to Camilla in front of her friends and family and she
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  thought she was going to a birthday party for a friend, but
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  it was actually a surprise engagement as per people.
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  I love when people get friends and family involved in their
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  engagement. I think it's the most fun way to
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  celebrate is to have that like big adrenaline rush, the big
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  excitement of getting proposed to and then getting to celebrate
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  with all your friends and family like immediately after.
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  And you don't have to plan it the best.
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  OK, so I have kind of like 2 final stories.
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  It's basically just referencing 2 videos that are going viral
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  right now. So the first is I wanted to talk
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  about Kim Kardashian, Kris Jenner and Northwest.
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  Halloween costumes are so iconic.
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  So the three of them revealed their costumes in a series of
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  Tik Toks on Kim and N's joint account.
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  They were dressed up as Jay Guapo, Pink Cardigan, and
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  Chrissy G. So Jay is probably the most well
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  known of the three. He's based in New York City and
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  he makes comedy such as skits and prank style content.
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  Some of his most popular content has been A Day in the Life of
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  Jay Guapo and Pink Cardigan where Jay and his younger half
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  brother have created these characters where they troll
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  slash like prank people in the streets.
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  His younger brother wears a pink cardigan and black leggings and
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  obviously is nicknamed pink cardigan.
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  And lastly, Chrissy G is another member of the group who is their
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  mother. So in the TikTok that they
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  posted, they recreated like Kim, North and Chris recreated one of
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  the most iconic Tik Toks from on this trio where North is pink
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  cardigan, Kim is Jay and Chris is Chrissy Jay.
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  It's so deeply chronically online.
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  Like obviously N said to Kim and Chris, like, we need to do this.
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  Please do this with me. It has to be straight out of
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  Northwest brain. Like I can't imagine anyone else
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  in this group knew who these people were or cared enough to
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  create this into a Halloween costume.
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  But it's so much fun. I love seeing Kim and Chris lean
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  into this for North. I mean, I assume it's for North.
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  And yeah, it's just so silly. It's so fun.
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  It's so chronically online, and it really just shows how
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  Internet culture has merged with mainstream culture in such an
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  intense way lately. OK, And the next clip that I
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  wanted to mention, it's a video going viral of a woman
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  journalist trying to basically do her job and all of these men
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  are shouting at her in the background.
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  So the video was posted by at lady under score app on TikTok,
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  but it seemingly came from Kezi 9, which is ATV station in
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  Oregon that's affiliated with ABC.
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  The reporter's name is Olivia Cleary.
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  So she was reporting from an American College football game,
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  and a group of men started shouting behind her, some of
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  them screaming 6-7, and at 1.1 of the boys peeked their heads
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  into the frame in front of her. It's honestly really hard to
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  watch. It's hard to explain, it's hard
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  to articulate. But they're basically just like,
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  surrounding her and hounding her and yelling and just, like,
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  bothering her, harassing her while she's trying to do her job
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  on air. I'm sure many women watching
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  this are familiar with this being trolled by men who are,
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  you know, basically just trying to make fun of you and take the
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  attention away from you and make you mess up while you're trying
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  to do your job. So that clip being reposted on
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  TikTok. The caption said nothing sums up
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  casual misogyny quite like this clip.
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  And the response has obviously been favorable toward Olivia.
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  There's so many comments condemning the men for their
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  behavior, saying it should not be excused.
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  And it's interesting that this clip has gone viral now because
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  there seems to be more and more conversation on TikTok
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  specifically about how young men are, like, yearning to be the
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  main character. Caveat, as if they aren't
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  already. OK.
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  And we have seen this a lot when it comes to club culture.
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  You know, there's clips all the time that women take at the club
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  where it's a bunch of boys, like, standing on the platforms
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  at clubs. And they're like, remember when
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  we used to go out and it was like, women who were up there?
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  And now all the guys are just taking over, dancing on tables,
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  dancing on the platforms. And it's like, yeah, when I used
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  to go to clubs in my early mid 20s, like, men were not allowed
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  on those platforms. And there's also a lot of
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  discussion about how millennial women were the last generation
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  who could go out, like, without any money, which is honestly so
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  true. And again, there are pros and
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  cons to everything. OK, I'm not necessarily
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  endorsing that. But it is interesting to note
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  this generational shift among young men.
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  And I imagine it goes hand in hand with the rise of
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  conservativism. And just like everything going
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  on in the world where men feel like they're having this
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  loneliness epidemic, they feel like they're slighted.
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  They feel like women just don't appreciate them, like whatever
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  they're telling themselves amongst each other to make
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  themselves feel better because they want to step up and be like
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  nice normal guys. And so they have to make excuses
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  for why women won't speak to them.
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  They're pissed off and there's this general rise of disrespect
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  from young men towards young women.
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  And I think that is absolutely a generational thing right now at
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  least. And I'm not saying that this
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  kind of stuff, like what happened to this news anchor
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  doesn't happen to men too. I'm sure it does.
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  But it's just all of this combined, right?
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  Like this happening in this current cultural climate amongst
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  all of the discussions about how men feel left behind and the
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  loneliness epidemic and all this shit, it's just like, well, why?
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  Why do you think that's happening?
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  Like this news anchor is trying to do her job and you're behind
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  her, trolling her, preventing her, trying to embarrass her on
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  air. It's so immature.
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  And of course it's going to make us be like, why the fuck would
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  we even bother? Like, get away from us.
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  That's what it feels like. It's not funny.
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  Nobody's laughing. Nobody thinks this is cute and
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  funny and they're just doing it for other guys like they're
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  doing it so that they can impress other men and that is
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  the truth at the end of the day. All right, guys, that's it for
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