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Steve-O (2022) - From Jackass to Stand-up · The Joe Rogan Recap

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  Welcome to the Joe Rogan recap. Great to be diving in again.
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  Today we're diving deep into a fascinating conversation from
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  The Joe Rogan Experience, specifically episode Hashtag
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  1900 featuring Stevo. Yeah, really interesting one.
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  Our mission isn't just to tell you what they talked about, but
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  to really unpack the most insightful moments you know save
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  you time while keeping you surprisingly well informed.
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  Get right to the good stuff. Exactly.
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  We're going to explore everything from the high stakes
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  world of MMA and the minds of fighters, to the unexpected
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  twists and turns of personal health journeys and even the
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  surprisingly relatable struggles within the world of comedy.
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  A real mix. OK, let's unpack this.
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  It turns out Stevo is way more than just stunts.
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  He's a serious MMA superfan. Oh, totally.
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  It's more than just casual viewing, isn't it?
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  He's like strategizing how to avoid spoilers, moving apps
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  around on his phone, waiting for video on demand.
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  Intense. It speaks to this universal
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  desire we have to experience something authentically,
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  especially now when info is just everywhere.
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  Yeah. Right.
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  Like trying to recapture that feeling of watching something
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  totally fresh. Yeah, exactly that feeling of
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  being there even when you can't be there live.
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  He even took his spoiler frustrations straight to Dana
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  White about those ESPN Plus thumbnail reveals.
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  Which is kind of amazing. And surprisingly, it got fixed.
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  Yeah, talk about having the right connection.
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  Seriously. But the fight duration's still
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  showing on demand. That's the next spoiler battle,
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  apparently. Well, it highlights a real
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  challenge for these platforms, right?
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  Balancing the needs of live viewers with those catching up
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  later seems minor, but seeing that runtime kills the suspense
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  for someone really into it. Totally.
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  Then they dove into the Israel Adesanya versus Alex Pereira
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  fight. Stevo was really struck by
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  Adesanya's reaction to losing. And it was a genuinely
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  insightful moment. His whole hunter is now the
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  haunted comment, his honest take on how those calf kicks messed
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  him up. Yeah, super honest.
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  That wasn't just a typical fighter interview sound bite.
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  It showed real self-awareness, you know, a willingness to
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  learn. Which brings up something
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  interesting. The impact of those calf kicks.
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  Michael Bisting, you know, former UFC champ.
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  He pointed out that he fought his entire career before they
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  became a widespread tactic. Wow, that just shows you how
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  quickly MMA evolves. It's wild.
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  It's wild to think about, right? Bisping, a top level fighter for
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  years, just missed this whole crucial element and those kicks
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  can be just devastating. Absolutely.
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  They talk about the fight stoppage, too.
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  Addisonia initially disagreed, but his corner thought it was
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  the right call. That classic fighter reaction
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  versus corner perspective. And it really brings up the
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  subjective nature of refereeing in combat sports.
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  I mean, at a sign it felt he could continue OK, But the ref,
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  Mark Goddard, who's considered one of the best.
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  Top tier. He has to make a split second
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  call about a fighter's ability to defend themselves, the
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  potential for taking unnecessary unanswered shots.
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  That's a serious risk. Then Stevo, you know, classic
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  Stevo joked about bringing back Steve Mazagotti.
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  Oh. God Mazagati.
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  The ref famous for, let's say, late stoppages and he clarified
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  Mara Yamasaki isn't reffing anymore either.
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  It's funny, but it also kind of points to that range of fan
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  opinions on when a fight should be stopped.
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  Exactly. Some fans want to see fighters
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  given every single chance to come back, while others
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  prioritize safety above everything else.
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  It's a constant debate really. No easy answer.
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  They also gave tops to Ben Askren for how he handled
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  defeat, especially that lightning fast knockout by Jorge
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  Masvidal. Remember that flying knee?
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  Oh yeah, Askren's reaction was pretty remarkable, actually.
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  To suffer such a, you know, highlight reel KO and still keep
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  a sense of humor in perspective, you don't see that all the time
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  in that intense world. Not at all.
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  So what does all this tell us about the Adesanya Pereira
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  matchup? They discussed Adesanya coming
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  into MMA as this like elite striker, now facing a kickboxer
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  of Pereira's caliber. It's striker versus striker, but
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  with very different styles. Which highlights a fascinating
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  dynamic in MMA of the clash of specialists.
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  Adesanya has that incredibly refined technical striking,
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  almost like a surgeon. Precision.
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  But Pereira possesses that raw fight ending power, the nuclear
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  option as they called it, and their history and kickboxing
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  those disputed decisions that just added fuel to the fire for
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  their UFC fight. And what a dramatic fight it
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  was. Pereira was down what, 3 rounds
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  to 1 going into the 5th. Yeah, down on the cards.
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  And still pulled off the finish. Plus the fact that Pereira was a
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  two division champion in Glory kickboxing 185 and two O 5
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  simultaneously. That's.
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  Just nuts. It really underscores the
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  striking credentials, but they also tipped on his size and the
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  potential wrestling vulnerabilities.
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  Right, he's a big middle weight. Huge, which often means a
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  significant weight cut and, well, grappling isn't really his
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  known strengths. We saw at Asenia take him down
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  and control him on the ground, which was pretty telling.
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  Absolutely. So the rematch is huge and you
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  know Pereira is going to be focusing on his wrestling.
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  Has to. Then they shifted to the whole
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  issue of weight cutting. Stevo had this bullshit theory
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  about fighters gaining a massive amount of weight after the weigh
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  in. He called it sanctioned
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  cheating, basically. Yeah, like a form of sanctioned
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  cheating. And look, this is a really hot
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  topic in combat sports. Fighters often cut extreme
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  amounts of weight, then rehydrate and ack on pounds
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  before the fight. Gives them a big advantage A.
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  Otentially significant size and strength advantage over someone
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  who cuts less. Stevo's frustration.
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  It resonates with a lot of people who see it as unhealthy
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  and, yeah, potentially unfair. The fact that boxing sometimes
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  has a second weigh in closer to fight time suggests there are
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  other ways MMA could look at it. They pointed out that when
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  Adesanya moved up to the light heavyweight to fight Yon
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  Blushovich, he only weighed in at like 194 lbs.
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  Pretty light for that division. His reasoning was all about
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  maintaining speed and movement right?
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  Not wanting to carry extra bulk that might hurt his cardio.
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  It was a very strategic decision by out of Sanya, especially
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  knowing Biochu which is such a strong wrestler, adding
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  unnecessary muscle might have just slowed him down without
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  giving him a real power edge against a naturally bigger guy.
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  But then they pictured Pereira potentially walking around at
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  220 lbs on Fight Night at middle weight.
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  That's a massive difference. Stevo's immediate thought was
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  why doesn't someone just try to take him down?
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  And that's the obvious game plan, right?
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  Facing a dominant striker with perceived grappling weaknesses?
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  Take him down. The fact that MMA fights start
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  standing definitely helps strikers initially, but a smart,
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  well-rounded fighter is always looking for those openings on
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  the ground. Then transition to Glory
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  Kickboxing, Where to watch a feat.com, glorykickboxing.com
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  and why it hasn't really broken into the US mainstream like
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  boxing and MMA have. It's kind of a shame, really.
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  It is because the striking is just phenomenal.
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  It is a bit of a mystery. I mean, the level of striking in
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  glory is arguably the highest in the world.
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  You've got incredible athletes like Cedric Doombei and of
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  course Alex Pereira came from there.
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  So much talent. Maybe it's just down to
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  marketing, media exposure, building those compelling
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  stories around the fighters like boxing and MMA do so well.
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  Speaking of Doombei, there's a lot of buzz about him maybe
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  moving to the UFC world class kickboxer training at AKA.
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  American Kickboxing Academy. Yeah, Top camp.
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  Although there seems to be some contract thing with Glory still.
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  Yeah, these transitions at the elite level often involve
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  complex contract negotiations, disputes sometimes times.
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  But Doom Bay coming to the UFC welterweight division, that
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  would be fascinating to watch, could really shake things up.
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  Definitely. This then led to a rather
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  sobering theory about larger boxing gloves possibly
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  contributing to more severe brain injuries like CTE.
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  Right. The idea being they might lead
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  to fighters absorbing more thudding blows over time.
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  They drew a parallel to the evolution of football helmets
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  and how that surprisingly correlated with an increase in
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  certain types of head injuries. It's a thought provoking idea,
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  though still debated. The theory suggests bigger
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  gloves might create a full sense of security, maybe leading
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  fighters to block more with their head or absorb more
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  cumulative damage because they feel more protected.
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  Like the football helmet thing? Exactly.
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  The analogy highlights the complex interplay between
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  protective gear and the actual dynamics of impact.
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  And crucially, they emphasize you don't need to be knocked out
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  cold to suffer the kind of repeated small blows that can
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  add up to chronic traumatic encephalopathy CTE.
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  They even mentioned soccer players heading the ball.
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  Right CTE. For anyone unfamiliar, is that
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  degenerative brain disease linked to repeated head trauma?
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  It's a really sobering thought about the long term consequences
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  of seemingly minor impacts. Yeah, it really is.
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  OK, shifting gears to Steve O's personal experiences, he talked
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  about his Don't Try This at Home tour from way back like early
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  2000s. Oh man, that tour.
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  Where he'd intentionally get drunk and perform incredibly
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  dangerous stunts on stage, 1 specific stunt was smashing beer
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  cans over his head. Three per show, hundreds and
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  hundreds of times. Just wow.
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  He's now very aware of the cumulative effect of those small
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  hits and the potential risk of CTE.
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  It's a stark illustration isn't it?
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  How seemingly minor repetitive head trauma can potentially have
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  significant long term consequences.
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  His awareness now, especially after Tony Hawk told him about
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  the APOE 4 gene. The gene linked to higher
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  Alzheimer's and CTE risk. Yeah.
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  And Steve O deciding not to get tested.
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  That shows a really personal struggle with these potential
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  health outcomes. He even mentioned trying stand
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  up with sparkling water cans after he got sober, which is
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  just a darkly funny image. It really is.
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  He noted that CTE could only be definitively diagnosed after
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  death through autopsy, but there's promising research into
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  new ways to diagnose it in living people.
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  That actually led him to visit a brain specialist just out of
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  curiosity. And these advancements in
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  potentially diagnosing CTE while someone's alive, that's huge.
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  For so long it was only post mortem Steve O being proactive
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  like that, seeing a specialist. That's commendable considering
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  his history. Then he reminisced about the
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  Evander Holyfield ear biting incident.
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  Classic Tyson moment. And how he actually pitched a
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  similar, though presumably less violent, stunt for Jackass with
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  Mike Tyson. You're kidding.
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  Nope. And now, incredibly, Mike Tyson
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  sells weed gummies shaped like ears.
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  Gets out. Seriously.
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  Ear shaped gummies. Yep, you can't make this.
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  Stuff up. That's bizarre how cultural
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  moments, even infamous ones, get repurposed.
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  Surreal. Totally.
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  They also touched on the popularity of MMA personalities
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  like Patti the baddie Pimblet and Molly McCann.
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  People really connect with those fighters who have strong
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  characters. You.
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  Know. Oh yeah, personality and
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  charisma are huge draws in combat sports.
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  Fighters who build that connection with fans often get a
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  super loyal following. Yeah, sometimes, even if their
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  record isn't perfect. Right.
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  Dave, who I guess is a friend of theirs, apparently bet big money
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  on Molly McCann in her last fight, and Steve O was really
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  worried, calling her opponent Aaron Blanchfield A fucking
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  assassin. And, well, turns out he was
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  right. Bland Shields grappling is
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  legit. They then described the crucifix
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  position in MMA, that dominant hold, and how incredibly hard it
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  is to escape. Holly Holm even demonstrated it
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  on Stevo. Wow, getting put in a crucifix
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  by Holly Holm. Can you imagine?
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  The crucifix is just brutal control.
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  Your arms are trapped by their legs, your head and body are
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  totally exposed to strikes, and there's almost nothing you can
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  do. Zang Wiley using it to set up
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  that choke on Esparza. Perfect example.
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  And Stevo's reaction to experiencing it from home was
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  like he felt it was an honor. That's definitely a unique
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  perspective. Only Stevo.
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  They both had high praise for Holly Holm though.
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  Great person, great fighter, and of course that legendary head
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  kick KO of Ronda Rousey. Can't forget that one.
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  Then they got back to Aaron Blanchfield's ground game and
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  her camera finish on Molly McCann mentioned the very real
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  risk of a spiral fracture with that kind of submission.
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  Oof. Yeah, a kimura puts immense
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  twisting pressure on the shoulder joint if you don't tap
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  fast. Bad news.
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  They recalled Frank Mir breaking no gear his arm with a Kimura
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  Nog, a legend, and snapping Tim Sylvia's arm with an arm bar
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  just highlights the real dangers.
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  Stevo admitted he's basically yelling tap tap at the screen
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  during close submission attempts and other fights, I think.
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  A lot of fans do that. Then they had an interesting
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  chat about showing live betting odds during MMA fights as maybe
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  an alternative to open scoring. You know, where judges scores
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  are revealed round by round. Yeah, the idea of using live
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  odds to show momentum shifts, it's interesting.
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  It could give fans a real time market driven sense of how the
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  fights perceived, maybe more transparent in a different way
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  than open scoring. The conversation then took a
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  more personal turn. Stevo shared his family history
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  with addiction and gambling. Really stark contrast between
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  his parents families. Yeah, his dad's side was all
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  academics. His mom's side had this history.
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  History of addiction, gambling, even suicide.
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  Pretty heavy stuff. He talked about his maternal
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  grandfather making a fortune bootlegging gasoline during the
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  war, only to gamble it all away and tragically take his own
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  life. Despite his own struggles with
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  alcoholism, Stevo has consciously avoided gambling.
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  It's powerful isn't it? Seeing that pattern and actively
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  deciding not to repeat it, especially with his own
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  addiction history shows real self-awareness.
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  His only betting experience was tied to some social media deal.
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  And it was the Poirier McGregor fight, the leg snap fight.
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  Crazy coincidence? He made an interesting
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  observation too, about how people with addictive tendencies
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  can sometimes channel that intense focus into positive
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  stuff like fitness. Used his friend John Joseph as
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  an example. Yeah, and he sees his own drive
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  to accomplish things in a similar light, which led them to
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  discuss the Smashing Machine documentary.
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  Mark Ker about his struggles with painkiller addiction while
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  he was at the top of MMA. That documentary is just raw.
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  A heartbreaking look at how common painkiller use is in high
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  impact sports. The physical toll is immense and
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  guys rely on that stuff just to manage pain and keep going like.
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  Ronnie Coleman, the bodybuilder with all his back surgeries,
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  just pushing the body to absolute extremes.
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  Exactly, which then brought them to the Killer Sally documentary
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  on Netflix. The female bodybuilder convicted
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  of killing her husband. Yeah, they touched on the
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  physical changes women go through on steroids, getting
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  that more manly look, and the really important difference
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  between abusing steroids and legitimate testosterone
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  replacement therapy, TRT at normal dose.
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  Right, TRT is a legit medical treatment for deficiency.
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  Crucial distinction. Abusing high doses of steroids
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  is dangerous physically and psychologically.
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  They mentioned the danger of abusing TRT to getting scripts
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  from multiple docs like some people do with opioids.
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  And Speaking of opioids, they brought up that massive Walmart
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  settlement. Billions of dollars for their
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  role in the crisis. Just shows the scale of it.
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  Devastating epidemic. Stevo then shared his own
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  experiences with prescribed painkillers after surgeries.
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  He just chose not to take them because of past bad reactions.
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  Understandable, especially with his history.
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  Said he even sold them after a knee surgery back in 94 and
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  skipped them entirely after a later ACL surgery.
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  His caution makes total sense. The opioid crisis really showed
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  how addictive those meds can be, even when prescribed
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  legitimately. It reflects his commitment to
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  sobriety avoiding triggers. He then went into detail about
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  his deviated septum. Multiple nose breaks over the
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  years. Finally got surgery to fix it.
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  Breathe properly. That's been a relief.
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  But even though the doctor pushed painkillers post surgery,
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  Stevo was hesitant. This led to a discussion about
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  over the counter stuff like Advil and Tylenol, how they seem
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  harmless but aren't always. Yeah, it's easy to think they're
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  totally safe because you can buy them anywhere, but they
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  highlighted the real risks of Tylenol poisoning, acetaminophen
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  overdose. Said just 20 * a dose can be
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  fatal. Yeah, surprisingly low
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  threshold. Thousands of ER visits, even
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  deaths each year from it. And it's hidden in combo meds
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  too, so people take too much without realizing.
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  They also mentioned Advil NS aids, potential gut issues and
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  even aspirin risks like bleeding, especially for older
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  folks, and how the daily aspirin for heart health advice might be
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  changing. Right, the recommendations
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  evolve. They briefly mentioned
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  hemophilia, blood not clotting, and how important pain is as a
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  signal. And that weird thing where you
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  don't feel pain during a fight, but man, afterwards.
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  Adrenaline dump that it all hits you.
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  Then the topic veered into extreme risk taking.
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  Stevo had this visceral negative reaction to videos of people
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  climbing skyscrapers. No safety gear.
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  Yeah, you could tell it really bothered him.
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  Probably comes from his own experience with high risk stuff,
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  knowing just how easily things can go catastrophically wrong at
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  those heights. They compared it to Alex
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  Honnold's free soloing brought in Gabor Mattei's ideas about
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  seeking extreme danger to feel alive.
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  Right. The psychology behind it though,
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  they acknowledged the incredible skill in climbing, like in the
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  Alpinist. That documentary about the
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  climber who died in an avalanche later?
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  Yeah, sad. Yeah, but the risks are
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  undeniable. The bodies left on Everest stark
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  reminder. This LED, maybe naturally, to a
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  more somber chat about end of life care, the fear of elder
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  abuse in medical facilities. Important stuff to think about.
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  Stressed making deliberate choices about how we want to
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  live, considering end of life wishes.
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  It's uncomfortable but crucial. Thinking proactively about
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  aging, potential vulnerabilities, ensuring
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  dignity. The fear of elder abuse is real
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  and serious. They touched on risk aversion.
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  Learn from family how can be limiting, especially during
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  something like the pandemic. Yeah, Steve O shared his
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  frustration with people who were super risk averse but then quick
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  to judge others choices on things like vaccines.
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  It really showed the complexity of risk perception, how divisive
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  public health stuff became during that crisis, lots of
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  judgement. For sure.
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  Then they explored that intriguing idea.
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  The same intense mindset driving addiction can also fuel positive
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  achievements like in comedy. Right mention fighters who've
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  shared addiction struggles. Steve O talked about featuring
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  Joe Rogan in his book as an example of an abundance
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  mentality in comedy versus a scarcity mentality.
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  That's a great insight into creative fields.
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  Scarcity mindset, fear there's not enough success leading to
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  competition, negativity, abundance, mentality,
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  collaborative, supportive enough for everyone.
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  He clearly admires Rogan's approach.
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  Even though Rogan admitted he was skeptical about Stevo doing
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  stand up initially. Shows how we have preconceived
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  notions, right? But Rogan's stress stand up is
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  open to anyone with a passion. Encourage people to try it like
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  Dean Delray finding success later.
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  Though they did acknowledge realistically the number of
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  truly successful pro comics is pretty small.
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  Takes serious dedication. Oh yeah.
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  They talked about Covid's impact, Zoom shows, outdoor
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  gigs. Steve O starting touring comedy
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  in 2010 after first trying in O 6.
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  And they agreed established comics should treat newcomers
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  well. Like in martial arts, gyms stand
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  up as personal growth. Steve O said he makes a point of
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  treating open mikers with respect.
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  They both stressed the continuous learning curve.
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  How hard it is? Stevo initially tried separating
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  his Jackass persona from his stand up.
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  Which must have been tough. Then started adding silly circus
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  tricks. Said he cringes watching his
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  first special from 2016 now. Happens to a lot of performers
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  looking back. Then he evolved, adding stunt
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  footage to a second hour, making it multimedia Quality said it
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  forced him to actually watch and analyze his stand up, which made
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  him better. Interesting using the footage
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  pushed his stand up forward. He even toured that hour without
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  the footage. Later, just to hone the jokes
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  released, the special independently duct taped himself
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  to billboards to promote it. Classics Devo promotion.
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  Now his goal is all new material for hour 3, bringing fresh
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  footage on the road, a real convergence of his worlds.
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  His current bucket list tour is stand up plus new crazy stunts
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  graduated to theaters tour bus. That's a big step up.
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  He described his style as storytelling with maximum laughs
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  per minute, building jokes into stories.
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  Writing process is mixed. Sometimes writing, sometimes
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  working stuff out on stage from experiences, his openers,
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  sometimes Jackass guys, sometimes his tour manager.
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  The one who started as his professional cock blocker.
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  Yeah, they met in Sex Addict Rehab apparently provides good
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  material. Wow.
• 20:29
  That circles back to the addictive mindset Dr. Connection
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  in comedy. And the frustration of seeing
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  comics who just never improved. They mentioned Sebastian
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  Maniscalco and Ari Shafir as examples of breakthroughs from
• 20:39
  hard work. Yeah, contrasting comedy with
• 20:41
  martial arts. Comedy is all you, your mind,
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  your perspective, which makes stealing premises such a big
• 20:46
  deal. Oh yes, stepping on premises?
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  Big no no. They talked about the
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  awkwardness of telling someone they aren't ready for your show
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  and why some headliners pick weaker openers.
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  That scarcity female mentality versus wanting the best show.
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  Right, the iron sharpens iron idea.
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  Working with funny people makes you funnier.
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  The process of starting over after a special writing a whole
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  new hour from scratch. Humbling different from music
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  tours where bands play hits. So they mentioned Dice Clay,
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  Bert Kreischer's machine story, Gaffigan's Hot Pockets, iconic
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  bits people want to hear. Praise Jim Brewer as
• 21:20
  underappreciated. Naturally funny Steve O bombed
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  following him once said it motivated him hugely.
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  Failure is fuel. They discussed different writing
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  processes. Some write meticulously, some
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  work it out live, like Ari Shaffir.
• 21:32
  Talked about Chris Rock's Method record, transcribe, rewrite.
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  Get feedback from other comics like Rich Jenny, Rich Voss, Nick
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  Dipaolo. Rock apparently seeks out
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  uncomfortable moments on stage deliberately to find new stuff.
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  That's intense. They worried about young comics
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  getting stuck with a solid 15 minutes, afraid to bomb trying
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  new stuff, especially in front of industry people.
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  Yeah, that pressure can stifle growth.
• 21:53
  Steve O admitted he used to fear doing stand up in LA because of
• 21:56
  that pressure. Agreed.
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  You need to be scared to improve.
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  I mentioned the big LA clubs, Comedy Store, Improv, Laugh
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  Factory, Icehouse, Haha Cafe, and the positive scene in Austin
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  now with guys like Duncan Trussell moving there.
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  Stevo loves Duncan Trussell called him a favorite podcast
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  guest, praised his show Midnight Gospel, his ability to connect.
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  Which led to a broader chat about the human desire for love,
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  connection, even when it comes out weirdly, like in roller
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  coaster relationships. Pondered the complexity of
• 22:27
  consciousness. No life guidebook mentioned Alan
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  Watts, Terence McKenna, Jordan Peterson as thinkers.
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  But acknowledged even advisors have flaws like Peterson's benzo
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  addiction issues. Cautioned against quitting
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  benzos or alcohol cold Turkey Dangerous.
• 22:43
  Stevo then clarified perforated septum whole from cocaine is
• 22:47
  different from his deviated septum cartilage displacement.
• 22:50
  Recounted Knoxville's shoelace trick through the hole.
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  And light shining through it. Then his nose breaks.
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  Bam's Rocky punch in Jackass 3D running into Tysons fist at the
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  Sheen Roast. And a Kung Fu instructor fixing
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  it on stage. Wild mentioned Josh Barnett
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  fixing a nose with a pencil too. Then the graphic post op details
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  after his deviated septum. Surgery.
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  The bloody boogers, splints, tubes.
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  Yeah, pretty gnarly. But he strongly recommended the
• 23:18
  surgery for breathing problems noticed fighters like Justin
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  Gaichie struggle with nasal breathing.
• 23:23
  Gaichie got his fix. Also mentioned Gaichie fighting
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  with no ACL. The pain tolerance is insane
• 23:29
  then. Steve O got excited talking
• 23:30
  about his Tesla, ordering one, planning stunts, hoisting it 100
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  feet up to. Sleep in it with Dana White's
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  permission. No idea.
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  And jumping a skateboard over it while Tony Hawk drives wearing
• 23:40
  leopard tights. Hopes Elon Musk sees the videos.
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  Of course he does. Still drives a Model S Plaid.
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  Loves the speed, Ludicrous mode, like punching a hole through
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  space-time a roller coaster. Hates the lack of buttons, the
• 23:51
  touch horn. No blinker stock.
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  Took Tim Dillon for a ride, got a great reaction.
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  Mused about traffic lights full of Tesla's LED to distracted
• 23:59
  driving talk phones, screens. Reference data accidents maybe
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  went up with iPhones initially, then down, possibly due to
• 24:06
  better car safety. Touched on social media's
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  negative mental health impacts. Comparison, Negative comments.
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  Steve O needing to manage his focus, Avoid overcommitting.
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  Still sells Fanny packs. No leather currently.
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  Sparked a chat on leather ethics.
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  Factory farming versus regenerative AG like white oak
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  pastures. The challenge of feeding cities
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  sustainably fast food demand current systems may be
• 24:29
  unsustainable. Steve O became a hunter after
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  watching PETA videos led to talk about licensing, meat eating,
• 24:35
  the disconnect from food origins, humane hunting versus
• 24:38
  natural depredation. Also environmental impact of
• 24:41
  mono crop farming for veggies. Health issues with processed
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  soy, wheat, glyphosate, fake vegan meat seed oils.
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  Stevo did colonics while vegan, was told the processed food was
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  bad. Mentioned studies on Impossible
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  Burgers being toxic for rats. Drew a line between healthy
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  vegetarian food and processed meat substitutes.
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  Seed oils described as industrial lubricants.
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  Inflammatory linked to macular degeneration.
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  Stevo avoids flour, sugar mentioned gluten free cookies
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  friend getting celiac diagnosis at 30.
• 25:10
  Speculate about Monsanto CEO maybe not caring about organic
• 25:14
  versus conventional? Finally, Stevo plugged his butt
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  wipes flushable but advised not flushing them.
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  Clogging risk? Compare them to paper towels not
• 25:22
  breaking down. Mention fat burgs in sewers,
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  wipes, fat gross stuff. Museum of London even has one.
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  That was truly a sprawling and incredibly detailed
• 25:34
  conversation, wasn't it? Just covered so much ground.
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  Yeah. Very dead.
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  From MMA strategy details to really deep personal reflections
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  on health addiction, the surprisingly complex comedy
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  world. So many fascinating Nuggets
• 25:45
  packed in there. Absolutely.
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  Hopefully you listening, have extracted some surprising
• 25:49
  insights, maybe gained A clearer understanding of all the diverse
• 25:52
  topics they covered. What resonated with you the
• 25:54
  most? What sparked your curiosity to
• 25:56
  delve deeper? Maybe.
• 25:57
  Yeah, and through your own contemplation, maybe consider
• 26:00
  this. What are the common threads you
• 26:03
  know that run through seemingly different fields like extreme
• 26:06
  sports, stand up comedy, even our food choices?
• 26:09
  Interesting question. Think about the dedication
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  involved, the risks and the often unseen trade-offs that
• 26:16
  come with pursuing any passion with a real intensity.
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  There's always something under the surface, isn't there?