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Mookie Betts Out Indefinitely · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes it all.
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Starts. Right now.
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Welcome back to the Three O Take presented by IC Kick.
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This is episode 442. I'll be your host Kyle Corden.
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I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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Breaking news, the Boston Red Sox in the most historic rivalry
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in all of baseball hit it again, have just taken down mere
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seconds ago, have taken down the the New York Yankees in a
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three-game series. They said it couldn't be done.
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They said it couldn't be done. I don't know why Nate decided to
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show up in the Yankees hat tonight because he knew they
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were taking the L but it's been done.
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The Red Sox have taken down the Yankees.
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They're headed to the World Series.
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The Boston Red Sox. We should have bet on this.
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We should have bet on this. I don't know why I didn't.
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I I I mean. I tried to ask you.
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You said you were, you were just still, you know, hurting from
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the last bet. Which is fair.
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Do you? See me?
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Look at me, dude. What do you think?
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You tell me. Ridiculous.
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Were you over it? Dude, I was over it after like
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the second the second time, which by the way, I I got called
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out. So the video or the clip that I
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pulled from last episode when we were talking about how like
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joking aside, that the Red Sox Yankees should not have been
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Sunday night Baseball and that it should have been OS Phillies.
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I took that clip, posted it and somebody on Instagram was like,
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lol, some guy dressed in all Oakland A's gear talking about
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how the Yankees and Red Sox should be Sunday Night Baseball.
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And I was like, buddy, little do you know.
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Little do you know. Little do you know that I am a
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fan of one of those teams, and I lost a bet to a guy who's a fan
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of the other team. And we both agree we're on the
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same page that there should not have been Sunday Night Baseball.
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But, you know, actually I'm kind of glad it was because, man,
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what a way to round out the weekend.
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Yeah, just enough to get me fired up.
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Well, OK, look, we're Mookie Bet the Mookie Betts news is
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headlining this thing. But I'll give you your space
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that we've been doing this ever since we started this podcast.
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This is a safe space where Red Sox, any Yankees fan, meaning
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you and myself can come here after they meet and vent any and
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all frustrations. Sometimes these these vent
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sessions are a little more elongated than others, but just
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air air your grievances. Yeah, and Happy Father's Day, by
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the way, Any fathers out there? Happy Father's Day.
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We're not fathers, so we're allowed to be pissed off today.
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At least one of us. It's a.
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Shame. Well, no, I guess he was in the
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ballpark. Rafael Dever's son, Garrett
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Cole, he, I think he is with the team now.
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You can just, you can, you can just.
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I'm giving you this time what? I'm giving you this.
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You're you're, you're allowed to have this.
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What? You're allowed.
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It was a legitimate question. You're allowed to have your your
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mid season trophy. I don't like doing this, but I
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have to out here, you said. The minutes before we hopped on,
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you said this Yankees team is not as good as the record shows.
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That's what I'm going to get into.
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It's I and and I'm not please don't.
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Everyone's going to think that I'm like the overreacting
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typical fan, but the truth is, like I, I watched the I've
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watched the I, I've maybe missed two or three games this year.
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Like I don't miss games and, and, and the Yankees team just
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isn't as good as their record shows.
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We've seen this. I've, I feel like I've seen this
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movie before. I've, I've, I've read this
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script before. It it's, it's happened.
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Historic starts, historic starting pitching.
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You're lost in the sauce of stardom and you ignore like some
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of the holes. And, and there's just like I
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said it before, I told you when we hopped on, if if a team tries
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to play the Yankees the Yankee way and the Yankee way is like,
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let's go starting pitching for starting pitching, let's go
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slugfest base to base baseball, then it'll come down to our
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bullpens and we'll see who wins. And if you play the Yankees that
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way, you'll more often than not going to lose.
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There's a few rosters out there that are, that are, I think
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better. And, and the Dodgers exposed
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this, you know, couple weeks ago, last week, it was a hey,
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we'll play your way and watch what we can do kind of thing.
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And then you see other teams that maybe don't have the same
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kind of roster that just can't hang throughout a series anyway.
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What the Red Sox exposed is the fact that, like, if you play a
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different way, if you play, you know, take that extra bag, take
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extra 90 steel bags, hit and runs bunts.
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Like if you play that aggressive, productive way, the
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Yankees cannot hang. They have holes.
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They have ways to be beaten. Then I get it, like starting
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pitching, you know, it didn't look great.
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Like Rodin's looked good for the last 6-7 starts, and then you
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know it doesn't look great here. Same with Strowman.
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But like the first base is an issue, Rizzo's an issue, DJ
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Lemahieu is an issue. The bullpen is now an issue
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because this is what Boone does every year is ready to pull the
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bullpen trigger over and over. So whatever, I'm not going to
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bore people with this. It is a venting session for me
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mostly than anyone else hearing it.
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It's just, I don't, I, I don't see it like I, I, I understand
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the numbers. I see the record being what it
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is. I just, I'm not there.
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I don't feel like it's enough. And unless Brian Cashman is
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ready to plug those holes before the deadline, I, I, I, I don't
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see the, it being a good enough roster to, to make it all the
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way. And I, I think that that is a, a
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dead philosophy anyway. We've seen it year over year.
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It's just about what team is hot and healthy when it gets to
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October, then it's less about like how dominant a roster is.
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So if they can get hot and healthy in October, I'll I'll
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eat my words. But I just overall, I don't
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know. I think I'm just becoming a
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typical depressed fan like everyone else for most teams
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that don't win often or in 15 years.
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Yeah, half my life, half my life.
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That's crazy to think about by. Yeah, hold on.
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Whoa, let's put that into perspective.
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That's a that's, that's a different way of looking at it.
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Half my life I've witnessed this garbage.
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Wow. Yeah, anyhow.
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Well, let's talk about let's talk about somebody that's
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actually good at baseball, the team that's actually good at
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baseball on some unfortunate news.
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However, joking aside, Mookie Betts, tough dude, wrist
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fracture off a 98 mile an hour heater.
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You knew right away when you saw it, it was not good, and it was
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likely going to be one of those ones that you just couldn't
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shake. Yeah.
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So as as it stands right now, the the little that we kind of
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know of the situation out indefinitely.
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You had mentioned that you had seen no timetable.
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I think that's that's all we really know at this point.
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Yeah, it's a Sunday night, everybody.
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It's June 16th at 10:30 Eastern. So you're probably going to wake
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up in the morning and listen to this and you are going to have,
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you're already going to have more updates than we have, but
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is what it is. Well, I don't, I mean, I don't
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know how much it's going to change though, because they know
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at least right now, I think we'll.
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Probably know by midweek. I think we'll have a timetable
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by midweek. Well timetable, but in in
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regards to surgery, they've already apparently ruled that
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out. So that's that's at least good
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news for for Mookie and the Dodgers.
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But you know, as one of the favourites to win the the NLMVP,
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this is certainly a blow that I don't even think the dodgers can
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afford at this point in time. Because like you're just not
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losing a you're not losing a depth piece here.
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You're not losing a, a middle of the rotation guy here.
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You're you're losing one of the best players in baseball, and
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certainly one of the best on the.
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Team and having a heck of a year.
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Not yeah, like this isn't just run-of-the-mill Mookie.
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We're talking like one of his best seasons that he's ever,
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which is saying a lot, but one of the best seasons he's ever
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put forth. You know what, we said we were
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going to be negative. In my mind, I thought I was
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going to be negative coming in. I I think I'm going to look at
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the positive out of this. I think this forces the Dodgers
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hand. I think it forces their hand to
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go get a shortstop. I think the experiment is done.
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I, I think, you know, and, and obviously like the injury didn't
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happen because of him playing shortstop.
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This could happen whether he's in right or not.
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It's not what I'm referring to. I'm just saying the fact that
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like this just forces her hand like it it, it has been barely
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average defensive production out of him at short.
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And maybe there's some good that comes out of this.
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You know what I mean? Maybe there's some good of, of
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them going and like truly filling that hole.
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I, I think Rojas is on the IL at the moment, isn't he?
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I think Rojas is out. No, I think he's in the mix to
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fill in. I'm not mistaken.
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Yeah, it Miguel Rojas. Either way, Miguel Rojas is not
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the. Answer not the answer Kike
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Hernandez not the answer obviously Gavin Lux, Chris
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Taylor like these are not a everyday write in thing.
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And even then, if we Fast forward to Mookie being back,
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are the Dodgers going to be fully comfortable putting Mookie
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at short. I'm just there's some positive
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out of this and I think if if if there's one thing to be like,
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hey, there's something the good that's going to come out of it.
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I think it is that. But even then the wrist thing is
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tough, man, because like when wrists go, you hear and it's not
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the same injury, but you hear a lot of people with the wrist
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injury that just don't ever really like fully get back to.
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We could go down the list. We go down the list of names.
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Mark DeRosa talks about it all the time on MLB Central.
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The 2nd that that wrist injury happened.
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He just never became, never got back to what he was.
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I watched it with Mark Teixeira. You saw it with Todd Frazier.
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You you see it all the time. If that wrist injury happens,
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it's hard to to come back from. So I hope, I think the hope is
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if you're a Dodger fan, go get, you're not going to replace
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Mookie numbers, but go get somebody to plug that hole.
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Play short every day so you don't have to rush him back.
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Let him take him, let him take his time.
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What do you think? I mean, I know I I just got done
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summarizing the what I would presume is the state of the
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Dodgers following this because again, that you're not, you're
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not losing a depth piece. You're not losing even
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run-of-the-mill Mookie, you're losing an.
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MVP candidate MVP. Candidate, possibly front runner
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based on who you're talking to. Like what do, what do we think
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this does for morale, for team like the Dodgers?
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Because you can sit there and say, well, this isn't a depth
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piece. This isn't run-of-the-mill
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Mookie, but on the flip side, you've got a team that is, for
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all intents and purposes, stacked.
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And again, I'm still of the belief that they can't afford to
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lose out on a guy like. Luke anybody could, and no
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roster could afford to lose him. Sure.
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But I we can, we can assume that the, the Dodgers are more,
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they're better positioned to absorb this blow.
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I agree. With that said, though, what do
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you, what do we think this does for morale at this point in the
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season? I mean, we're, we're, we're,
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we're in the middle of June now. Now knowing that we don't have a
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timetable, knowing where you're at in the standings, what the
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expectation coming into the season is, was what, what does
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this do for morale? Because I feel like that's,
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that's important as we get closer to the, you know, for
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lack of a better term, the old cliche, the dog days of summer.
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As we, as we approach that point, if it gets to that point,
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again, we don't know how long this will be.
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We don't know how long Mookie's going to be out for You.
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Can I, I think any and all baseball fans should hope that
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it's as short as possible, unless you're a Padres fan.
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Morale. Morale though.
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I don't know, I I think I think it's a roster that's that's put
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together with a lot of vets and a lot of like end goal team,
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overall performance, selflessness mentality.
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It's hard to say next, next man up, because it's like there is
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no one that's going to fill the shoes.
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But I don't know, you're just you have a lot of leaders there.
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You know what I mean? You still have a Freddy and you
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still have guys that like have been around the block.
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You got a lot of guys that have been around the block.
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So what is their cushion in the West right now?
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Without looking it up, I'm assuming it's double digits.
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Now that we got the weekend in the books, they are eight games
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up on the Padres. Padres are game under 500 right
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now heading into the week, Yeah. They're going to be fine.
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They're gonna be fine. Yeah.
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We got plenty of guys that'll step in and and figure it out.
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What's scary is that like, they're, as they start all
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coming up and like coming back and showing up.
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Like, you know, Kershaw, Muncie. I thought they had another arm.
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Didn't they have another arm? I was set to come back in like,
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August. I don't know.
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Well, they're get trickling in. Sorry, I just momentarily
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checked out 'cause I had to make sure I had.
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To no, no. No, I had, I realized as you
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were talking, I was like, oh crap, I don't have a player for
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name that player. So I had to, I had to pull up
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the the selected player's stats just just to make sure I was, I
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had them at the ready. But you were talking about arms,
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which was? There another name besides
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Kershaw. Well, Yamamoto, which we are
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going to touch on here to the 15 day IL they're getting I
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believe, though I don't think it's a corresponding move
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because I think Yamoto has already hit the shelf, but Bobby
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Miller is expected back this week.
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There we go. If if that's who you're.
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That was that's and he's on my fantasy team yeah.
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Don't know why I blanked there but it's like these pieces that
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can slowly come back and it is almost like a like a like a
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trade deadline move as each guy shows up.
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You can't say that for a lot of guys where a lot of teams given
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their situations big. Names, these are, these are like
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impactful names, you know, So they'll be all right, they'll be
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OK. But I do think this forces their
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hand a little bit more. And I know I said this, I don't
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know, probably a month ago that Willy Adamus sounded like a good
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fit. But it it just seems like the
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Brewers aren't going away. And then I think it'd be like a
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pretty big slap in the face to their fans if they did sell
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Adamus. So interesting to see what name
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will come in. Maybe, maybe this forces the
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hand, forces the issue on boba shit possibly.
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Already got a lot of blue swag, a lot of blue accessories that
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you. Can.
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Oh, no, I saw, I I was watching a few Cavin BGOABS today.
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It literally couldn't tell the difference.
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I was like, oh, Blue Jays, Dodgers, yeah, same same deal
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here. Same same gear.
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Same gear. This is, I mean, this is just
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the year of the injury. I know we have them a lot.
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It's insane. These these names are like if
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you grabbed all the all the IL names and put in like said this
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was the All Star team for the year, you'd be like, yeah, that
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makes sense. These are All Star caliber names
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going down and a lot of them like, oh.
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That's a good idea. I might put together a little
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graphic and maybe the all IL team from the duration of this
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season to this point. That's I.
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I bet you that'd be a heck of a. Where I mean, we're stacked.
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Heck of a club right there. We're stacked.
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It's yeah, like a total home runs or total strikeouts or
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innings pitched. Yeah.
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I mean, there's there's a lot there.
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There's a lot there. And there's probably maybe one
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or two like divisions that that all IL team isn't leading in.
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Right. Yeah, the Yamaha thing, dude, I
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think the Yamamoto thing's just scary just because of all the
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all the arm injuries we've seen all the names going.
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Down the workload conversation applies to him too.
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Having come over from Japan. I did see.
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Want to make sure I got the number right here.
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His start against the Yankees on June 7th, I think.
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I think he threw 106 pitches that game, which was the 4th
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time he had thrown over 100. So it's just it's something to
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consider when looking at that specific case.
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You got a guy who you know, still he he's not exactly a
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young gun. Like he's he's he's was over
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there pitching in Japan for a handful of years.
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So it's not like that's why the whole like Rookie of the Year
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conversation gets a little. Little muddy, little cloudy for
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some people 'cause they're going really, I mean, what are we
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talking about this guy? So it's, it's not like he
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doesn't have, it's not like he hasn't thrown the bullets
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already. But it's still a different
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philosophy, different workload, different approach that you have
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to implement, accommodate and plan for looking ahead to a full
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162 season, so. If this is a big one, if this is
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a big injury, I I think this is going to affect decisions down
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the road, specifically dollar amounts.
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Yeah, being forked over. This is an old school injury.
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This is a rotator cuff. This isn't an elbow.
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We we're used to elbows. Yeah, that's the whole thing.
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Now this is a shoulder, so hope he's all right.
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Yeah, Rotator, rotate rotator. Cuff News came out not too long
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ago. I think that was an update that
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we just received earlier today, yeah.
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Hope he's all right. Baseball's obviously better with
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him in it. So just just sucks man.
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It's it's not surprising. I, if anyone's surprised and
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it's, it's just specifically referring to Japanese pitchers.
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I, I just, it, you're not shocked anytime this news
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happens, you're like, yeah, it was, it was just a matter of
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time. It's not if it's when.
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And it sucks because like, I want that to be all done.
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I'm all, I'm all, I'm all done with that.
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I'm over it. Dodge would be all right,
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though. It'll be fine.
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It's hard for any other fan base to feel bad for him.
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Speaking of feeling bad, probably not too many guys in
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baseball that feel worse right now than Jose Abreu getting
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released on Friday by the Houston Astros.
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And need we remind you, the Astros, if you're, if you're
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unfamiliar with the situation already, Astros have decided to
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eat the 30.8 mill that was owed to him of the remainder of his
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contract. How many years left?
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Two. Less than halfway through his
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three-year deal, so that, I mean, what a year, year and a
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half year and 2/3, yeah, that was a, that was a 58 and a half,
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$1,000,000 contract when he signed it.
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I felt like the time down wasn't enough.
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It was like a week. They they didn't send him down
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for long. No, I mean, he, I, I could have
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sworn. Oh, you're right.
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Wow, it was only seven games. That's what I'm saying like.
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I don't know why I thought I I thought I remembered it being
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more. I just feel like that
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conversation had to be so difficult to have and it's such
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a selfless thing because for those unfamiliar, we just looked
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this up before recording. Guys that have five or more
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years of service time can deny being sent down.
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If they have options available, they can deny that.
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So him agreeing to that, that's a selfless thing.
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And I feel like it's such a big pill to swallow for it to just
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be a week. Well, a week's worth of games
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really got corrected, though. Well, I, I was right it it
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because it did seem like it was longer.
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He, he was away for like a month, but he only had a week's
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worth of games. So he's only getting game a BS
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over the course of seven games. But he, he had spent weeks
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beyond that, like in addition to those games trying to fine tune
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the swing, work on mechanical issues, get his head right.
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So yeah, he was gone for like a month or so.
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Really. Yeah, which is what I thought.
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And that's what I was saying. Like it definitely felt longer.
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But then you mentioned the seven games, which is also correct.
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Like he it it wasn't. It wasn't.
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He doing the rest of the time that's.
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What I'm saying, I think it was just mechanical corrections
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working. I, I don't, I don't know the
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full details, but that would be my guess is that like if you're
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away from the team for a month and you're only playing for one
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of those weeks. I don't know, like when you look
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at like, like, Oh my gosh, what is wrong with me?
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Big annoying dude for the Blue Jays, Danny Vogel.
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No, the picture that got sent down.
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Alec Manoa, Manoa, My gosh, what's wrong with me?
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The fact that we like can look at that and be like, you're
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going to need to really earn your way back up here.
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And I'm not saying that like Jose Brady's struggles were as
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bad, but maybe they kind of were.
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Maybe they kind of were just as bad.
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Send them way down. You know, it's not seven games
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in AAA down. Send him way down and like if it
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is AAA, fine. But like, leave him there until
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you start seeing A800 plus OPS out of him.
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You know what I mean? Like, let if if that pill, that
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selfless pill is going to be swallowed, don't put like seven
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games to it. This made national news.
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Like this is a big deal. He's a world champion.
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He's a former MVP to be sent down to like go figure that out
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to only have seven games to work with.
25:55
I just I don't love it. I don't I don't love the way it
25:58
was handled. I'm not saying I disagree with
26:02
the release, I'm not saying that his production warranted a
26:08
second shot. I just, I'm, I think like give
26:11
him more time to figure it out. Well, to that point, I'd
26:16
probably have to agree with you because we we very well know,
26:19
like if you've been following Major League Baseball, if you've
26:21
been keeping tabs on what the Astros have been doing,
26:25
especially to start the year, it wasn't good.
26:27
But as we said and not, there are a lot of people that didn't
26:31
want to agree with us. As we said, they've slowly
26:34
started to creep back into the conversation.
26:37
And I get it, they're only nine games back.
26:40
But I would venture to say that the Mariners success that
26:44
they've been seeing as of late probably isn't terribly
26:47
sustainable. Like, they're up 8 1/2 in the
26:49
division. That doesn't sound like a very
26:51
Mariners Z kind of thing. To do, it's not that dominant of
26:55
a team. So give it more time.
26:57
All that to say, they've been doing just fine without them.
27:00
So like, why? What's the hurry and bringing
27:02
them back? That's what I that's what I'm
27:04
saying, man, like that's what I'm especially when you have
27:06
that much money invested. It's just a weird timing and and
27:11
like a not enough time to make that decision.
27:15
And maybe there's some things behind the curtain that we don't
27:17
know then, and I don't know, but does this like secure Pete
27:26
Alonzo to the Astros? Like does that not just sound
27:29
like the most picture perfect thing like a a right-handed
27:35
first baseman that you can plug in between Tucker and and your
27:42
Don? I mean 'cause like, let's be
27:46
real, Bregman isn't like a true 3 hitter.
27:50
If you go if you go straight up. And I don't write the Astros
27:53
lineup and I know they rotate because I watched Kyle Tucker
27:56
lead off a few times. But if you go Altuve, Tucker
28:02
third spot will leave blank for now.
28:04
You are Don 4. Bregman feels like A5 hitter
28:08
based on this year. I think 3.
28:12
Like Pete Alonso with the three. And then you really have a
28:15
right, left, right, left, right one through 5.
28:20
And that's a that's like a that's like a scary one through
28:24
5. Like that's a next level one
28:25
through 5. And we're not Pete Alonzo fans
28:31
by any means, but are your Don behind you with the Crawford
28:37
seats? That man could cook.
28:43
That man could do some damage there.
28:45
Where does? It here's the question, where
28:47
does Pete Alonzo become where when it's all said and done?
28:50
If he were to end up in Houston, where would he be more disliked,
28:54
hated, hated with the Mets organization who can't get out
28:59
of their own way or the very well documented hated Houston
29:04
Astros organization? I think it's both.
29:09
I don't. Know if I can answer both
29:10
because you know, he's taking the try hard way of going about
29:14
things with him. Like that's not he's not leaving
29:17
that in New York. He's he's very wherever he goes,
29:20
he's taking that with him. That's him.
29:22
For as long as he's in the Home Run Derby, he's going to be
29:25
doing deadlifts before, regardless if he's wearing a
29:28
Mets hat or not. So that's an interesting
29:31
question that I would be, I'd be curious to know the answer to
29:35
when it's all said and done, I. Don't know, it just it makes too
29:38
much sense though. It makes too much sense.
29:45
I I can see it, I can. Does before you move on, does
29:53
Jose Abreu get another chance this year and not minor league
29:59
contract checking that box. I'm saying, do we?
30:01
Oh, OK, there it is there. It is in a big league uniform
30:07
again this year. Well, he's not.
30:13
I mean, he's not signing to play right away at the big league
30:17
level. No.
30:18
So like he would have to work his way back so.
30:20
You're saying with the caveat of him sign it like checking that
30:24
minor league deal box and then working his way back to the
30:27
majors by seasons end That's what.
30:29
You're saying does that happen? Glad you mention it 'cause I
30:32
didn't want to have to, didn't want to have to to win that bet
30:36
too. Yeah, had to put in the correct.
30:39
Shout out Jorge Lopez. I don't know, man.
30:47
That's going to take some work. Yeah.
30:52
And I know it's like still kind of early, but it's also kind of
30:56
not. I just don't think he has
30:58
analytics on his side either like that.
31:00
I think that's one of the big trouble.
31:03
Like he gives me Hosmer vibes with like less defensive
31:08
ability. The fall off was crazy though.
31:13
Dude. Like it like I, I, I, it's
31:15
really old. I think people forget he didn't
31:17
come over until like 26. He's 37 1/2.
31:21
So we like, that's what we know. We don't know for certain, but
31:26
that's what we were told is that he's 37 1/2.
31:29
He didn't crack in until 27 years old, right?
31:34
2014, so that's ten years ago, so 27, yeah, you.
31:41
Might be done the fall. I think it was done.
31:43
The fall off was crazy though dude.
31:46
He so he won the he won the MVP in the shorten 2020 season, but
31:56
before that, how many? Jacks did he?
31:59
Have even in that season he had 19.
32:02
But in 60 games in 60. Games he did, he played every.
32:06
He played every game. So 19 Jacks in 60 games actually
32:11
had the most hits in the AL that year too.
32:14
But by year, starting with his rookie year 36 Jacks 3025332233
32:23
and then 19 and 2020-2021 he had 30 and then 2022 is really where
32:33
I don't know. I don't want to say a dip, but
32:34
he only had fifteen home runs. He hit three O 4 though and that
32:38
was over 157 games 2023. So he's 30.
32:44
He is durable. He had, yeah, 2023 played 141
32:49
games, had 18 Jacks, only hit 237.
32:54
And then obviously this year has just been abysmal.
32:56
I think I don't. Feel like pulling up the
32:58
numbers. I just, I'm curious to see like
33:00
if like off of fastballs, it's like, you know, that's always
33:03
kind of the old age tell yeah, you can't keep up with the
33:06
average fastball. That's when we're going to move
33:08
on. He was in 124 before he got.
33:11
The biggest issue is the launch angle that I think that's the
33:13
biggest problem and that's why that's what I mentioned, like
33:16
like the Hosmer vibes. So he's just not lifting the
33:20
ball. It's so weird to me.
33:23
It's just so weird to me. That, and I'm not going to sit
33:26
here and say I'm the greatest hitting coach ever, but it's
33:29
weird to me that hitting coaches can't just be like, we need to
33:33
change stuff. I need you to like, move your
33:37
hands to a different place. I need you to get rid of this
33:40
hitch in your load. I need you to consider this.
33:44
And it's weird how like unadjustable guys are.
33:49
And I don't know if it's like a lack of athleticism, it's more
33:52
so like a, a stubbornness. And I'm like, what you're,
33:56
you're hitting like $1.50. What do you, what do you have to
33:59
lose? Change something.
34:02
And where is this hitting coach that's willing to be like, these
34:06
are mechanics that we need to maybe try and find.
34:10
This is the result we're looking for.
34:12
Let's get those hands in a different place.
34:14
Let's get our bad angle in a different place.
34:17
Let's just change something. It's so weird to me that I
34:23
don't, I don't know if it's a lack of like, willingness for a
34:27
coach to come out and direct that or if it's more so a player
34:33
being stubborn. But like, I would, I would love
34:38
for, I don't know, pitching that much, but like, mechanically
34:41
anyway. But like, I would love for
34:42
someone to be like, yeah, Manoah looks totally different now from
34:46
what he was doing during his struggles.
34:48
His hands are starting here versus here.
34:50
Like, I, you know what I'm saying?
34:51
Like there's there's enough of a mechanical difference.
34:57
And that's what I just, I didn't see it when the Bray who came
34:59
back up and he hit that double to right field, I was like,
35:02
maybe he's back. But it looked the same, didn't
35:05
look any different. I don't know, tough.
35:12
I think he's done. He's old.
35:14
He's old but you get them for big league minimum so.
35:21
It's true. I I think he gets one more shot.
35:28
I mean because again, the fall off was rough, but it.
35:31
I think it was. It's going to be somewhere
35:33
random. Yeah, well, that's.
35:34
Like the Tigers or the Royals or something?
35:37
Well, I don't think they're going to, they're going to want
35:39
to acquire a, a, an aged corner infielder after, yeah, after the
35:47
whole Mickey situation. I think they're still a little
35:49
scarred from that. But again, it like I was saying
35:52
the the fall off, granted it was rough, but it wasn't exactly
35:59
prolonged. Like it wasn't drawn out.
36:01
It was just like a steep Cliff. So I'm wondering to your point,
36:04
like mechanically if there's something?
36:07
That's what it makes you. It makes you question, yeah, the
36:11
quick fall offs. It's like a mechanical thing.
36:16
Or confidence thing, Yeah, as as we've said.
36:18
Before for sure. Who really knows?
36:23
Name that player. Hall of Fame or no Hall of Fame.
36:27
No Hall of Fame. Active or retired?
36:31
Active debut before 2015, No afterwards.
36:42
OK, One team in that time, One team.
36:47
AL or NLNLNLE. No Central, No NL Central, NL
36:55
West. Yes.
36:58
Rockies no. Diamondbacks, no.
37:03
Dodgers. No Padres.
37:06
Yeah. Current player after 2015.
37:11
Outfielder, infielder currently. Infield,
37:26
your next comment has to be an answer.
37:31
Well, it's pretty much dropped down to four names for the most
37:38
part. Trying to remember how far back
37:43
Bogarts goes. I think he debuted before 2015.
37:51
You're not getting anything out of me, so don't don't try to
37:55
weasel any info out. Machado debuted before 2015, so
38:01
he's out. So it's down to Hassan Kim
38:04
Cronenworth and Luisa Rais. Hassan Kim.
38:12
Hassan Kim. Yeah, let's.
38:14
Go oh. Man, that was not bad.
38:18
I did not track questions, but I think we stayed under 20.
38:24
I'd have to go back and count 'cause you you were ripping.
38:27
Questions I was ripping out but I normally don't so I said.
38:30
Well, well, for, for clarification purpose, we, you
38:33
and I chatted I think after last episode and we're like, we're
38:37
not going to be like you. You're just not going to be able
38:39
to get 20 questions in. Yeah, so short of time.
38:42
We can just rename like rebrand it, we'll just go name that
38:44
player, keep it simple. So I, I think with that rename,
38:50
we drop the question limit. So it's, I guess it's at that
38:54
point it's really just like ripping as many off as you can
38:57
before the, the, the, the tune ends.
39:02
That's true. Either way, I think I stayed
39:04
under Hall of Fame or no Hall of Fame.
39:05
Active or retired debut AL or NLNLE Central West.
39:19
And then you went through every. Team Dodgers D backs, Padres
39:24
infield outfield. So like 13 questions.
39:30
Infield, outfield, yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:33
You're definitely under. 2020 is a lot of 20 is a lot of
39:36
questions. Yeah, I'm proud of that one.
39:38
That's a good name. That's a random good name.
39:41
Thank you. I wasn't sure if you'd hit me
39:42
with an active guy. I will be honest though, the
39:44
retired ones I feel like are harder.
39:47
Yeah, I know. I I felt bad.
39:49
I feel like I gave you, I think the last two or three.
39:51
How many have we done? 3, Two.
39:53
Yeah. I gave you like I gave you.
39:55
One that was retired. They've been 90s era.
40:01
Do you want to, do we want to make this a thing where we we go
40:04
one in one here, or do you just want me to spring this on you
40:08
throughout the episodes 'cause I don't want you to feel
40:10
pressured? What do you want?
40:13
I don't know if I I felt the people love love a good game.
40:16
From you want to send it? Do you have a music up?
40:21
Do you have a guy? I got a guy.
40:22
You have a guy. Oh, boy.
40:24
All right. All right.
40:27
Lock it in. Corwin.
40:28
Here we go. You ready?
40:31
I'm ready. Active or retired?
40:35
Retired pitcher or position player.
40:39
Position player. American League.
40:42
National League. American League American League
40:46
East Yes. Red Sox No.
40:50
Yankees Yes. You said Retired Hall of Famer,
40:55
No Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame.
40:58
You said position, player, retire, keeping track of these
41:02
questions. I know Yankees, you said no Hall
41:06
of Fame. Retired Hall of Fame.
41:08
Hall of Fame, Yankees Hall of Famer, retired position player,
41:13
infield, outfield, outfield, outfield.
41:21
Yeah, No, shoot, you got a big nineties 90s.
41:30
No. OK, that's good.
41:33
Gotta I had to get that question before I beat.
41:35
I got to beat the buzzer there. You're a big group.
41:37
You got a big. Yeah, dude, come on.
41:39
Hall of Fame Yankees sick. That really narrows it down.
41:42
No. All right, so let me just let me
41:48
just backtrack here. A position.
41:51
But did I ask infield, outfield. What did you tell me, outfield?
41:59
No, I, I would, I would have said outfit if you would have
42:01
been difficult there. I was going to just defer
42:04
outfit. All right.
42:05
Hall of Famer Outfield for the Yankees.
42:07
Not in the 90s. Answer retention is a part of
42:10
the. I know, dude.
42:11
That's, well, it's harder when you just like ripping questions
42:16
off. Like, I don't remember what I
42:17
said. Yeah, I'm going to go.
42:22
Let's go the Mick. Nah, let's go.
42:28
Let's go. Unbelievable.
42:30
Let's. Go.
42:31
Good for you, that's a big group to to choose from so.
42:35
Yeah, I mean, come on, man. You.
42:37
You. Sorry.
42:38
Put me on the spot, and then you give me like the largest player
42:41
pool, the largest Hall of Fame player rule that exists in
42:44
baseball. Unbelievable.
42:47
Anyway, All right, that was good.
42:48
That was good. Speaking of another American
42:52
League East team, the Baltimore Orioles had quite the the
42:58
aforementioned series that we alluded to the Phillies and OS
43:02
OS take two or three this weekend after dropping a
43:05
heartbreaker on Friday. Some were saying, I didn't say
43:09
it necessarily, but I I did see game of the year to this point.
43:13
That might be. It's a good candidate.
43:16
It's a candidate. I won't say for certain that it
43:18
is, but it's I feel like rain. Delays, rain delays kind of ruin
43:21
it. Maybe it added to it for this
43:24
one. From what I could tell, it
43:28
seemed like the crowd retention was like.
43:33
Granted, I don't. Do you remember how long the
43:35
delay was? That's.
43:36
What I was going to say, I don't remember how long the delay was.
43:39
I was having to watch on my phone.
43:41
I it sucks that these matchups fall in the weekend.
43:43
I mean, it's nice because there's a good chance that
43:46
you'll have the ability to to watch them.
43:48
But on the flip side, it's like. You and I are weird, like I'm
43:52
more likely to watch during the week.
43:55
Well, that's no, no, but that's what I'm saying is like you're
44:00
safer to assume that like you're not going to have those
44:03
consistent commitments of like work and stuff.
44:06
Like some people work on the weekends.
44:07
I get it. But like you think, OK, well,
44:11
the weekends here, I'll at least I I think I'll have an
44:14
opportunity, but things but then things come up.
44:16
You got. Husband duties bro you got.
44:18
Husband you got you got like dinners with friends and stuff
44:21
like that so. It's always a birthday, there's
44:24
always the holiday there's. And now we're at the stage where
44:27
it's like baby shower and like seeing babies on the weekends
44:31
and trips. It's crazy.
44:33
But anyway, all that to say, the, the weekends are, are
44:38
tough, especially in the summer. That's another factor here, here
44:41
a lot, a lot more stuff happens. So I had to watch again, to to
44:44
reiterate, had to watch on the phone, so I wasn't able to to
44:47
keep track very closely. But I told you that this was
44:51
going to be a series to watch and I made sure to watch it to
44:54
the best of my ability. And it was a great series.
44:59
Well, maybe not if your feelings fan, but it I, I think there had
45:02
a there was a little bit of everything.
45:03
There was a little bit of everything, including today.
45:07
The game three, I don't we were talking about it before we
45:10
hopped on. Zach Wheeler getting touched up
45:12
first time in his career gave it.
45:16
Giving up four home runs in a game, which sucks because I was,
45:21
I was doing, I was hyping up this game like it was going to
45:23
be the pitchers duels, the pitchers.
45:25
Duels. And then Corbin Burns goes out
45:27
and dices and then Zach Wheeler, as I mentioned, gets touched and
45:30
it just didn't look as good. But to I, I will say though, to
45:36
counter Zach Wheeler getting touched up the way in which it
45:41
happened was pretty cool as as you and I were talking about it
45:45
was, I cannot remember who the 4th home run was, but it was
45:49
three of the young bucks in consecutive Indians.
45:52
By the way, it was, I think Gunner had a lead off in the 1st
45:57
And then I want to say it was Cowser in the second and then
46:04
Adly in the 3rd. And I again, I can't remember
46:08
who hit the 4th one off of him. I'm sure we could pull that up.
46:11
But it's like, yeah, I mean, if, if Zach Wheeler's going to get
46:15
touched at least. Westbrook, Yeah, the 1st 3.
46:18
Right, Westbrook. Yeah, that.
46:19
Was in the fifth, yeah. Yeah, so it's like at least if
46:22
he's going to get touched up, at least it was off some just
46:25
absolute fireworks of some home runs and it wasn't just
46:28
stringing hit after hit after hit together.
46:30
Although I will I I will mention it was wild to me that Rob
46:36
Thompson left him out for as long as he did.
46:39
I had this, I actually had this discussion with my father-in-law
46:44
and he was like, why is it that that happens?
46:48
And he loves to follow like the live chat on whatever these apps
46:51
are, You know what I mean? It's just people just like
46:54
toxicity just filling in. Yeah.
46:57
And just the Super emotional recency bias comments.
47:03
And. And the tough thing is, is that
47:04
like, you know, I, I haven't I'm not following these teams to
47:09
know exactly the way their bullpen shape is.
47:12
But it it's hard for you to want to burn through a bullpen.
47:19
You know, it's the end of a series.
47:20
It is your ace. And I think at the very least
47:23
you can trust your ace to say, like, if it's not win day, can
47:29
you eat innings for us and just give us a decent chance?
47:33
And it is a part of that conversation.
47:36
And I think that, you know, Rob Thompson being somewhat old
47:39
school, Zach Wheeler being who he is, it's like, you know what,
47:42
I don't have my stuff today, but at the very least let me, you
47:46
know, we're going to take the L today, but let me get you some
47:47
innings. And I don't know, maybe that
47:53
maybe that's what the game called for.
47:55
It was still 'cause he, it was 82, I believe, after that
48:01
Westbrook home run in the fifth. Yeah, 82.
48:07
So I mean, like you, you asked for five, you know, 62.
48:13
You're like, I don't feel great. It's four innings.
48:15
Like, let me try to settle in. I don't know.
48:18
I just hate that it happens to a guy that's like in the Cy Young
48:21
conversation, like you mentioned, he's their ace.
48:24
And it's just to me, I, I get what you're saying.
48:29
I, I, I totally agree with the logic that can be applied to, to
48:34
so many of these guys. It's.
48:35
A marathon conversation A little.
48:37
Bit like if if you're not, if you can't get us a win, if, if
48:40
this just isn't your day that you just don't have it, Can you
48:43
give us an answer? I get that, but on the to play
48:48
devil's advocate or on the flip side of the conversation, this
48:51
is a guy whose resume and I don't know how much or how
48:57
little a guy like Rob Thompson, or really any manager for that
49:00
for that matter, is worrying about a resume for a an end of
49:05
season award or just like a. Season.
49:07
I doubt it all. I doubt it all.
49:10
Right. But it the reality of it is, is
49:13
like this guy is crafting a resume that is going to be
49:22
dinged up a little bit because of this outing.
49:25
And based on how the rest of his season goes, this we could look
49:29
back on this game, but like that ERA, not quite what it could
49:34
because of that start back in June where he got hung out to
49:37
dry. Did you by chance see MLB
49:44
Central in London? Where was Wheeler and Nola on
49:49
the show? I don't think I caught that.
49:52
Couldn't be a more dry conversation.
49:55
Both of them were so so dry. I could see that.
50:01
So what I'm wondering is like in a part of this equation and
50:04
maybe Rob Thompson. Well, for sure Rob Thompson
50:06
knows this answer of the mental toughness.
50:10
You know what I'm saying? Like Zach Wheeler, are you
50:14
willing to eat innings and will this affect your next start?
50:17
No, Cool. I need this.
50:19
I need to save the pen. Let's get out of town day.
50:23
I don't know where they're going next, but you know what I mean?
50:27
Like maybe there is a little bit of that part where it's like you
50:30
can handle this. And if if that conversation
50:32
happened in the dugout too, Wheeler's like, you know, I
50:34
don't have my stuff. Looks like we're taking the L,
50:37
which obviously you're not going to say that, but in so many
50:39
words, like, you know, this isn't our game.
50:42
We still need outs. Let me at least go try to get
50:44
him and and he'll be fine because I and that's why I asked
50:48
about the interview, because it's like he just seems like a
50:50
gamer. He seems like he really doesn't
50:52
care. He's it's in it.
50:56
It just perfectly makes sense to who the Phillies are, what that
50:59
mentality is, what that roster does.
51:01
It's just selfless baseball. So maybe that's that's part of
51:06
it. I don't know.
51:09
No, let's have good points, I think.
51:12
No, I, I think you're, I think you're absolutely right.
51:17
But you know, the more I think about it as I'm, as I'm talking
51:20
through this, you know, I maybe it's maybe it's a thing with
51:25
Zach Wheeler where he is taking that approach, where he's going,
51:28
you know, I don't have it today. I'm racking up the runs.
51:31
Clearly this is just not it for me.
51:33
I'm going to eat the innings. But what would it say about a
51:37
guy like Zach Wheeler to where he's like, no, I need to
51:39
protect. Not again, not that he he
51:41
wouldn't say this, but what would it say about his mentality
51:45
and his belief in his stuff if he felt like he needed to
51:49
protect his resume off of one start to where he didn't feel
51:54
like he could bounce back or, or, you know, bring those
52:00
numbers back down with the rest of his performance because he's
52:03
that good. So I, I'll admit a little
52:07
reactionary take and I think a little bit of bias there because
52:11
he was my my Cy Young pick. So I'm going hey.
52:14
Ross, it was your wicked series to watch is a great series.
52:18
I think all of us fall in love with with the moment and like as
52:22
a fan, you're like, duh, like this is a potential World Series
52:26
match up, potential Cy Young. That's what I have in the world.
52:29
Series this year, you know what I mean?
52:31
So like, I don't, I think we both do actually.
52:33
So I don't, I don't think it it's crazy to feel that way, but
52:37
it is definitely like an an irrational fan view at times.
52:43
I think we just, yeah, maybe got a little caught up in it, got a
52:46
little something there. And I'd be, I'd be interested to
52:50
see, I mean, he's obviously had a great year to this point, but
52:52
I'd be interested to see you go back and look on some of the the
52:55
more dominant years that arms have had, like how many of
52:57
these? Bumps how many clunkers?
52:59
Yeah. Yeah, how many, how many of
53:00
these do they have over the course of a a full season,
53:03
assuming they make all their scheduled stars?
53:05
And he, I think as a manager, like after that conversation,
53:08
you just got to be like, hey, we got it out of the way.
53:10
Like you we are, we're all going to have these clunkers.
53:12
You got yours out of the way. And luckily it's June and we're
53:15
in a good shape in the division. Put it behind us.
53:18
And it's against the Orioles at the end of the day, like, right,
53:20
if you're going to do it, like do it against one of the better
53:23
teams the league. I, I'm, I'm cool with it.
53:25
All right, I got my, I got my reactionary take out of the way.
53:28
I'm, I'm better now. I've I'm I'm a little more
53:31
level. We talked it out, we talked it
53:32
out. All right, I'm, I'm better,
53:35
better. Oh, and by the way, for all the
53:37
people coming at me saying, whoa, the Phillies fan, the
53:40
Phillies fan, I'm still, I'm still getting that.
53:43
For all the people saying Phillies fan, Phillies fan, I
53:45
intentionally I, I busted open a cool beverage today and
53:51
intentionally and I, I love having my drinks with a in a
53:54
nice big cup of ice intentionally took out.
53:58
And I, I said, I'm going to mention this on the podcast.
54:01
I better not forget this intentionally chose the Orioles
54:04
postseason souvenir cup that you and I got last October while I'm
54:09
watching the Phillies and OS. So all these people out here
54:12
saying, oh, Phillies fan, Phillies fan, take that and
54:15
shove it. OK, piped out.
54:20
It got people call me A's, an A's fan.
54:23
People call me a Phillies fan. Like, let's, let's not lose
54:26
sight of where we're coming from here.
54:30
If you need a reminder, go back to the beginning of this episode
54:33
and, and, and we'll make it all. We'll clear up any confusion for
54:37
you as to where I stand. That's all unreal.
54:43
I'm I'm tired of having to defend my own honor.
54:46
It's crazy. It's crazy.
54:52
Speaking of defending 11's honor, Pat Hoberg, Major League
54:57
umpire, having it coming out, He had to.
55:00
He came out and said no, I, I, I didn't bet.
55:05
I didn't. I didn't get caught up in that,
55:07
that stuff. Shohei and Epe and David
55:10
Fletcher and all them were doing.
55:11
I wasn't doing all that. I think he appealed the
55:15
decision. Major League Baseball came out
55:16
and announced Friday that it was disciplining umpire Pat Hoberg
55:21
for violating the league's gambling rules.
55:24
Did we get the details? Were there any in his game?
55:28
If they that is a bigger deal to me than any player betting on
55:32
their own game. Well, what's crazy is this guy
55:35
is one of the the better UMS in baseball.
55:37
They're they're. The big name?
55:40
Little to no signs of there being any sort of like fudging
55:45
of of outcomes that he had. If you've been following this
55:49
this news you, you've probably heard that this was the guy that
55:53
had the I, I I say perfect game had the perfect umpiring game in
55:58
the 2022. I won't say I thought it was
56:03
last year. No, I think it was 2022 had the
56:10
perfect game in game two of twenty.
56:12
Yeah, the 2022 World Series called 129 balls and strikes
56:18
correctly. It's a tough one.
56:23
It's hard to see you don't love it.
56:26
But yeah, he came out and he is. I think he's appealing the
56:33
decision they have. I don't think they have, they
56:38
have determined yet whether or not he had bet on baseball.
56:42
So I don't think that's that's been decided.
56:45
I don't know if that's out of the picture yet either way.
56:47
I don't know if that's been. I'm curious clear details how
56:51
much and for what sports. It's tough, man, it's tough.
56:57
I mean, this conversation isn't going to go away And, and I
57:01
think all major sports are in a no win situation.
57:07
I I don't know how the contracts work, but I'm assuming like
57:10
DraftKings is paying Major League Baseball for to be able
57:14
to use them in their book. You know what I mean?
57:17
Like, I'm assuming they're getting cut outs for payouts
57:20
from these big DraftKings, FanDuel, ESPN bets, like
57:25
whatever it may be, you got to think that they're getting cuts.
57:29
So what is what? What does it do for a sport to
57:32
just be like, no, we don't want any of that.
57:39
They're turning down money, I think.
57:40
Yeah, I don't. I mean you, you would probably
57:44
know this better than I would. I don't know if Major League
57:47
Baseball has a designated sports book 'cause I know they brought,
57:52
I'm, I'm reading here that they brought on FanDuel in 2023, the
57:56
last so last March or I guess 2 marches ago.
58:00
But then obviously I mean DraftKings is involved in in a
58:04
variety. That's a licensing thing, right?
58:07
Like it's, I don't think it's any different from like a a
58:11
third party company getting a licensing deal to put like
58:16
merchandise out there. What?
58:18
It says here FanDuel has the right to use official MLB
58:22
branding and category designations both in its
58:24
products, including FanDuel Sports Book Daily.
58:28
Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
58:29
So I I think it's I don't know either way regardless who who's
58:36
in bed with Major League Baseball like it's this is a
58:39
real thing like this, like gambling, betting, sports books,
58:44
all that it's it's embedded not just in baseball, but all of
58:48
sports now. And we talked about this when
58:49
the whole show hey thing went down.
58:52
You this, you can't really come back from this Like you can't
58:56
really once. That once it's open, once that
58:59
door's open, there's no closing it.
59:00
You, you just can't come back from this because it the, you
59:05
have people in positions of power who have eyes for nothing
59:10
but money signs and they're seeing, they're seeing the
59:16
dollar signs come in with the, as we implement more and more
59:21
gambling into baseball, you're seeing, you're seeing money
59:24
lines plastered on, on on matchups on every website and
59:31
you're seeing in game like parlays being broken down.
59:34
It's like OK. Sure.
59:37
Do you really think the people that are benefiting this,
59:40
benefiting from this are just going to all of a sudden go,
59:42
yeah, you know, like, guys, let's let's dial this back.
59:45
We don't want the umpires to get in trouble now.
59:47
Right. I, I, I, I pretty sure it's just
59:49
going to be a revision of the rules.
59:52
You know what I'm saying? Like how many guys got cut from
59:56
teams in the NFL for smoking weed and then next thing you
59:59
knew, the NFL is like, OK, we're cool with weed now.
1:00:03
And now they don't test for it. So like it, it makes me wonder
1:00:08
the rules around betting, were they written before FanDuel
1:00:15
DraftKings was like this worldwide thing where those
1:00:19
rules just like written after Pete Rose and then just
1:00:24
untouched since, you know, and then 40 years goes by and now
1:00:30
betting is what it is now. Do you revise those rules?
1:00:34
Do you reinstate certain players or umpires that break rules at
1:00:39
that time? Like I'm just curious to see how
1:00:41
it goes, like what they're going to do moving forward?
1:00:45
Or is it just a set in stone thing?
1:00:49
And it's it is like somewhat I, I won't say hypocritical, but
1:00:55
almost contradictory of yeah. And you make that joke.
1:01:00
You know what I mean? Like you watch it, you watch a
1:01:02
game and you're like, these players can't bet.
1:01:04
But this game is brought to you by DraftKings or this, this
1:01:09
commercial break is brought to you by FanDuel.
1:01:11
Like it's it is contradictory. I don't know.
1:01:17
I don't know. But it is, I mean, it's an issue
1:01:20
in the NFL. Two, there's definitely been
1:01:22
some guys that have been cut, but again, you can't close that
1:01:30
door. It's open now.
1:01:32
It's just silly, man. It's like like you mentioned,
1:01:35
you come back from break. This game is brought to you by
1:01:38
DraftKings here. We're going to look at our we're
1:01:42
going to look at we're going to do a little bit of a deep dive
1:01:44
here. We got Max freed at over.
1:01:46
We're setting the line at 5 1/2 KS on for today's match up, Ozzy
1:01:52
Albie's 1 1/2 total bases. Oh, by the way, breaking news,
1:01:58
Shohei Otani swept up in a gambling scandal.
1:02:01
It's do you I I just hope that people see that it's not so
1:02:07
black and white like there's this is trickling into baseball.
1:02:10
I, I say trickling. It's it's.
1:02:14
Floodgates. It's the floodgates have opened
1:02:17
again, not just with baseball, but all of sports.
1:02:19
And it's, it's I, you know, I got to give the leagues credit.
1:02:24
Like I'm sure that it, once those floodgates open, they're
1:02:27
sitting there going, OK, well, we wanted this to be a part of
1:02:30
it. But like that we got, we got
1:02:32
lines being crossed. We got things like you mentioned
1:02:35
contradictory or being contradictory.
1:02:37
It's there's just way too much that I think the league is
1:02:41
trying to balance to where they don't look like they're stepping
1:02:45
on their own toes or that they're, they're going against
1:02:48
what was already in place rule wise or legislation wise.
1:02:52
And that's, that's a, that's a tough ask.
1:02:55
It is it's going to be interesting moving forward.
1:02:59
It's going to be really strange. And I, I'm curious to see what
1:03:05
like the, the player associations for these leagues
1:03:08
start doing, you know what I mean?
1:03:11
Like an argument or an argument there.
1:03:14
Like how does this trickle down to college, college Sports,
1:03:17
College athletes, like all of this stuff is it's a part of the
1:03:22
equation. And for these entities or
1:03:26
organizations to receive a cut and players not getting their
1:03:33
cut and not allowed to bet, that's going to become an issue.
1:03:37
Player associations are going to start fighting for that.
1:03:44
It all comes back to people wanting money.
1:03:46
Yep. That's the that's the reality of
1:03:48
it. We're all guilty of it.
1:03:50
And another reason for, you know, one of many revenue
1:03:54
streams coming into these organizations that complain
1:03:57
about payroll and complain about not having enough money, they
1:04:01
have plenty of revenue streams coming through the door.
1:04:09
Crazy, that's all I got, my friends. 442 in the books.
1:04:15
You got anything that you'd like to part with before we get out
1:04:19
of here? I don't think so.
1:04:21
Happy Father's Day. I mean all the all the all the
1:04:23
dads out there. Hope you guys had a good day.
1:04:27
Maybe we'll you and I will get there someday.
1:04:29
I'm sure it's coming at some point.
1:04:31
I was at, I was at church this morning and they said, they
1:04:34
said, hey, we got a gift for all the dads out there in the lobby.
1:04:37
In fact, not just for the dads, just any, any men in attendance
1:04:41
there. And be sure to grab it for you
1:04:43
before you leave. And it was, it was beef jerking,
1:04:45
a back scratcher. There you go.
1:04:47
And they came up afterwards and they're handing out the extras.
1:04:50
I'm like, I, I just feel weird taking this, you know, like I
1:04:53
want to be ushered into fatherhood the right way.
1:04:55
I want true. I want all of the the, the, the
1:04:59
awesome stuff that comes with being a dad that I've heard.
1:05:02
I agree. At the right time.
1:05:04
I don't. I don't.
1:05:04
I don't want it early. Dude, it's funny enough Paige
1:05:07
and I had the same type of conversation today.
1:05:09
She was like, have you heard the new Luke Combs album?
1:05:12
And I'm like, no, it's literally all about father and son.
1:05:15
So no, I I have it's like it's crazy or videos of dads crying
1:05:20
listening to it. I'm like, it's not going to hit.
1:05:22
So maybe I'll just wait. Revisit this album later.
1:05:26
Maybe I'll drop like a review video on YouTube like years
1:05:30
later after everybody's already heard it on repeat.
1:05:32
I get it now I get it this. Is the greatest album.
1:05:36
Has anybody heard of this yet? And.
1:05:38
It's crazy, yeah, but any who happy, Happy new week, ladies
1:05:45
and gents. Let's get after it.
1:05:46
Let's get it. Don't go chasing curveballs.
1:05:49
We love you all and as always, looking forward to talking more
1:05:51
baseball with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.